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    00:00 New MLSE CEO Keith Pelley speaks to the media
    27:00 Brendan Shanahan answers tough questions
    50:00 How does the MLSE regime plan on creating a winning team
    1:04:00 Toronto's new WNBA team and the Leafs
    1:12:00 Sheldon Keefe's message to Leafs fans
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  • @testecalle3378
    @testecalle3378 Před 12 dny +49

    "Mr Shanahan, how did Vegas win a championship before you made it past the 2nd round?"

  • @wolverinefangowings
    @wolverinefangowings Před 12 dny +121

    Since these guys love the sportsbooks so much, what's the betting odds on whether they ever explain the MLH story?

  • @sixandathird915
    @sixandathird915 Před 12 dny +43

    In the 2000s Europe has 7 Ryder Cups and the USA has 3...proving that checking your facts before trying to sound clever is always the best strategy

    • @85blutch
      @85blutch Před 11 dny +6

      They don't even know Silovs when he's the one backstopping Latvia to their first medal in the WC last year, he beat team USA. Silovs is not just a 3rd string goalie, the guy is legit.

    • @derekgray9774
      @derekgray9774 Před 9 dny +1

      I love these guys, but Adam especially has had this issue a lot lately. He's so confident in what he says, despite often being corrected on details and then just goes"ah whatever". It's not whatever, you can't just throw stuff out there so boldly and blow it off.
      Steve and Adam both have gained sources and friends with insider info. But they so badly want to be breakers and gain the edge on the big companies. I just don't know if they get the hit their reputation takes when they're wrong or only speaking half truths. This is why Friedman, CJ, Dreger, Lebrun, etc. all speak so carefully

  • @meleekunis2196
    @meleekunis2196 Před 12 dny +113

    My guess: They discussed the MLH still assuming it was a legitimate thing, then after the episode was recorded they found out it's likely a suspicious lie, and so they just cut out the MLH discussion from the episode.
    That said, I agree with many that we are owned an explanation as to how this happened. Steve, Adam, and Jesse always talke about the importance of transparency, and so this is their time to demonstrate it.

    • @jameson1239
      @jameson1239 Před 12 dny +34

      @RJM-eh2tvso is this Adam, Jesse or Steve’s alt account?

    • @CvrryMusic
      @CvrryMusic Před 12 dny +20

      They can be held accountable for publishing misinfo ☠️

    • @BarnesGannon
      @BarnesGannon Před 12 dny +16

      @RJM-eh2tv I love the show. Still would like to hear Steve discuss the MLH misfire.

    • @jaikohaal
      @jaikohaal Před 12 dny

      @RJM-eh2tvlol these guys have a holier than thou attitude for everything out there. They’ll spend hours apologizing for a small mistake, and above all else the podcast has grown quite a bit the last year. that didn’t happen overnight. It came from years of authenticity and genuine entertainment.
      A lot of people have been here longer want these guys to do well. A part of that comes from hao authentic these guys have always been despite their mistakes and shortcomings. So when something happens that suggests they sold them selves out, or they made a mistake, and refuse to acknowledge it in a respectable fashion then all we see is them thinking they’re bigger than that.
      For example: having a small business. authenticity and good communication are they selling points of any small family owned business. But what is the authenticity is gone and communication is poor? That’s what’s happening here.
      It’s not that we are owed an explanation. But we want to have a good opinion of these guys. At the moment there is nothing supporting anything in a positive light and as fans who want these guys to do well, we don’t want them to be sellouts

    • @thebeatleswin1
      @thebeatleswin1 Před 12 dny +24

      @RJM-eh2tvFor a show the preaches so much about dumb social issues no one cares about, And pretends to be ran by mature people, Yes actually, They very much owe people an explanation and apology.

  • @danb.9891
    @danb.9891 Před 12 dny +14

    You guys need a 'Errors Made This Show' Counter displayed On Screen like a 'shots on goal counter' ...😖

  • @icysnax4488
    @icysnax4488 Před 11 dny +3

    Fun story about Arturs Silovs: the Canucks drafted him in the 6th round and he was actually there to shake hands and accept his jersey. He knew there was a legit shot he went undrafted, yet he flew himself all the way from Latvia to be there if he did.

  • @michaeltsui1073
    @michaeltsui1073 Před 12 dny +46

    Even if it was an honest mistake, REALLY weird to completely ignore the MLH thing

  • @Caennuck
    @Caennuck Před 12 dny +8

    I am so unbelievably pissed that Shanahan got to essentially plagiarize Dubas’ presser from last year and he isn’t fired. That’s absurd. I so badly want to see the actual Kyle Dubas Leafs. I don’t believe that we actually ever saw that.

  • @Jamminmagic
    @Jamminmagic Před 12 dny +256

    Where's the MLH content

    • @AustinDombrowsky1994
      @AustinDombrowsky1994 Před 12 dny +6

      OOOOOP

    • @MildandLazyGuy
      @MildandLazyGuy Před 12 dny +3

      It’s called 3ICE…

    • @Blades500
      @Blades500 Před 12 dny +3

      Adam Brought it up at the beginning of the livestream for Van/Edm game 2. But I agree, they should have made a video or something more about it earlier.

    • @workshoptelescope
      @workshoptelescope Před 11 dny +2

      Still less embarrassing than getting scammed into being a lifetime Leaf fan.

  • @jaikohaal
    @jaikohaal Před 12 dny +153

    How do you publish this without addressing the MLH stuff? You’ll spend 30 minutes on the podcast apologizing for nothing but not this?

    • @MyselfTheThird
      @MyselfTheThird Před 12 dny +9

      When do you think they record these things? How quick do you think they turn these things around?
      Use a little sense.

    • @jaikohaal
      @jaikohaal Před 12 dny +10

      ⁠​⁠@@MyselfTheThirdLOL there’s nothing saying that they have to publish this video before addressing it. They recorded this after the press conference, and the issue was addressed last night and this afternoon. So it’s on the same timeline. They wanted to put the podcast out first. Thats their decision.
      Right back at you, use a little sense

    • @MyselfTheThird
      @MyselfTheThird Před 12 dny +8

      @@jaikohaal I'm just going to assume you know nothing about content schedules and obligations and let you go in peace. Would def recommend you educate yourself further on the subject, however.

    • @thebeatleswin1
      @thebeatleswin1 Před 12 dny +16

      @@MyselfTheThird “i’m wrong but guess I’ll just mention some barely relevant bs to cover my exit”
      These guys suck at being part of the media. No meed to defend them bro.

    • @jaikohaal
      @jaikohaal Před 12 dny +7

      @@MyselfTheThirdAh yes a very convenient answer😂

  • @kates6876
    @kates6876 Před 12 dny +43

    Shanahan has let 3 GMs take heat for his plan. Still, there is zero accountability. I wanted more from Pelley. The "he is a champion" line told me everything I need to know.

  • @NathanLipetz
    @NathanLipetz Před 12 dny +13

    Is nobody gonna mention Steve’s fuckery with MLH?

  • @leopimens
    @leopimens Před 12 dny +213

    No mention of the well famed MLH. How weird...

    • @greatestgameonearth
      @greatestgameonearth Před 12 dny +17

      He's doing a separate vid apparently. Would be very weird to not address it.

    • @jaikohaal
      @jaikohaal Před 12 dny +19

      @@greatestgameonearth to be honest, that video should’ve been published before this

    • @leopimens
      @leopimens Před 12 dny +13

      @@greatestgameonearth it was said in the taken down video that the topic would be further covered in the podcast. If it is covered later - fine, but I just hope Steve does his due diligence next time.

    • @hillfortherstudios2757
      @hillfortherstudios2757 Před 12 dny +2

      Sorry, what is MLH?

    • @MeatZer0
      @MeatZer0 Před 12 dny +6

      @@hillfortherstudios2757 Major League Hockey, reportedly funded by Saudi Arabia, new league in North America, 30Mil Salary cap, league under NHL. Guess its not happening???

  • @landonbaumgardner1277
    @landonbaumgardner1277 Před 12 dny +5

    Kris Letang didn’t play in the 2017 playoffs. He was injured the entire postseason. The top guys for that run were Justin Schultz, Brian Dumoulin, and Ron Hainsey. And in 2009, he was more of a depth guy. Their top guy in 2009 was Sergei Gonchar.

  • @jobemi2422
    @jobemi2422 Před 12 dny +14

    The fact this was posted without addressing the MLH debacle is wild.
    Steve said they would talk about it on the pod. So they knowingly didn’t bring it up after they found out Steve fucked up?
    Really not a good look for SDPN, but especially Steve.

  • @nicholasonciul5770
    @nicholasonciul5770 Před 12 dny +129

    Steve love the channel but you can’t not acknowledge what you posted last night

    • @jeffreymcmillan
      @jeffreymcmillan Před 12 dny +1

      What did he post?

    • @NoRoids_JustRage
      @NoRoids_JustRage Před 12 dny +12

      Who the hell cares?? Its not a big deal why do people care so much

    • @jaikohaal
      @jaikohaal Před 12 dny +37

      @@NoRoids_JustRageIts either paid advertising that they never called advertising or its an attempt at journalism and reporting without checking the facts in the slightest.
      They know they screwed up… and for a podcast that tries to holier than thou with a niche fanbase, it doesn’t sit well

    • @CvrryMusic
      @CvrryMusic Před 12 dny +10

      ​@@NoRoids_JustRage Posting misinfo is bad actually

    • @NoRoids_JustRage
      @NoRoids_JustRage Před 12 dny +4

      @CvrryMusic it's all over the internet anyway? Again act like an adult and worry about something that actually matters

  • @stephenellsworth964
    @stephenellsworth964 Před 12 dny +13

    For those asking about MLH, the Toronto Sun posted an article 7 hours ago (at the time of this post). It gave me a 404 error. So maybe they wanted to mention it in greater detail, but maybe they are holding back for some reason?
    Dangle also tweeted this: 'Yesterday, I posted a video reporting on a new 3-on-3 hockey league in North America. Today, I have received several concerning reports that raised doubts about several of the facts contained in the report and have decided to delete the report on all platforms.'

  • @cronoros
    @cronoros Před 12 dny +13

    Way off base on the Ryder Cup thing, US dominance finished in the 80s. Europe has 12 wins to 6 in the last 40 years (with 1 tie that meant Europe retained also)

    • @wolverinefangowings
      @wolverinefangowings Před 12 dny +8

      Thought it sounded weird when he said it. Took like 30 seconds to look it up. Does Adam not know about Wikipedia?

    • @JarradBruessel32
      @JarradBruessel32 Před 12 dny +3

      No he doesn't apparently ​@@wolverinefangowings

  • @ryuhoshi2774
    @ryuhoshi2774 Před 12 dny +10

    Idk how it's even a debate that John Carlson was at the bare minimum a top 5 NHL defenseman in 2018 considering he literally lead all defenseman in scoring that year lol

    • @jerrygreig9506
      @jerrygreig9506 Před 12 dny +3

      Dude was underrated at the prime of his career

    • @INMATEofARKHAM
      @INMATEofARKHAM Před 11 dny

      And two years later, in 2019-2020, he was over a point a game with 75 points in 69 games played. (Finished 2nd in Norris voting) he's also had seasons where he finished 4th and 5th place in voting.
      He was a legit top 5 defenseman in the league for a few years and certainly was when they won the cup.

    • @remeli6148
      @remeli6148 Před 11 dny

      Agreed. And Pietrangelo is great but hes not top 5 NHL anymore.

  • @victorpersson02
    @victorpersson02 Před 12 dny +38

    Have some patience everyone! He has adressed the MLH debacle on twitter and I expect him to adress it further either on this channel or his own. This podcast was most likely recorded before or shortly after the video was made/released. Other outlets have released similar statements showing it's not just Steve who got false information. Don't let this one thing be something that stains all the good Steve has done and does currently.

    • @zrogers3640
      @zrogers3640 Před 12 dny +12

      What other outlets. Steve was the source other outlets took and they aren’t addressing it because they got paid for it

    • @thebeatleswin1
      @thebeatleswin1 Před 12 dny +8

      What good? Bro what are you even talking about?
      Dude just spergs out about the leafs, Stop pretending like he does more for people then that.

    • @victorpersson02
      @victorpersson02 Před 12 dny +6

      @@thebeatleswin1 Have a thesis:
      TL;DR: He's a bit more than the shouty red faced man in a leafs jersey...
      On his own channel, sure. He "spergs" on the leafs at times. He also reliably recaps leafs games in a unique way for international fans such as myself who can't see the games live because the games happen at 1 am at the earliest.
      He raises money for various charities, he cares for his family and runs an independent podcast network that is high quality and delivers news and podcasts up to a professional standard that fill out a lot of blanks for fans who are engaged past the inevitable annual first round game 7 loss LFR.
      Steve cares for and about this community. I can see how people see him as a screaming man who is in a toxic relationship with a sports team. But it doesn't take much to see the genuine passion he has and shares with fellow fans. Whether it's rallying after a win or screaming after yet another loss that makes no sense.
      Keep your preconcieved notions. But Steve does a heck of a lot more for this community, the leafs and I'd argue the sport as a whole than the rest of us. And that's purely out of passion. If he so wished, he could up and leave. Get a steady job again and start cheering for the Oilers or something. But he doesn't. Reiterating here for emphasis: He cares too much about the Leafs, the community and the sport overall to just quit on us.

    • @Blades500
      @Blades500 Před 12 dny +2

      Adam Brought it up at the beginning of the livestream for Van/Edm game 2. But I agree, they should have made a video or something more about it earlier.

    • @victorpersson02
      @victorpersson02 Před 12 dny +6

      @@zrogers3640 I noted some reputable-ish looking sources around the same time saying similar things. I could just as easily be wrong and I'm not a good person for taking those at face value and you might also be right that they took information straight from the video. In that case I apologise for pulling statements out of thin air.
      What I will not agree on is that they're not acknowledging and addressing the issue because they're getting paid to. They have a delay due to the production of the podcast. They most likely spoke about MLH in this episode and cut it out in editing because they are actively back tracking and giving the story itself less coverage. They haven't had time to release more than tweets adressing this at the moment. For as little as I know Steve personally, I am certain that he will properly adress the whole thing in due time with a video either here or on the personal channel.
      He won't let us down. I wholeheartedly believe that.

  • @IAmFamousForMyCovers
    @IAmFamousForMyCovers Před 12 dny +9

    Didn't even start the music before making a mistake. Caleb is on avs, Seth is bhawks. Come on steve

  • @shaneboegeman8638
    @shaneboegeman8638 Před 12 dny +3

    One of those Penguins teams did not have a big name defenseman because Letang was hurt for the entire playoffs.

  • @CanadaBlue85
    @CanadaBlue85 Před 12 dny +28

    Please let this be the last leafs episode until something interesting actually happens 🙏 The good teams are still playing hockey!

    • @juvialockser9912
      @juvialockser9912 Před 12 dny +4

      Hes literally a leaf content creator
      Tell a weather man to stop talking about weather because weather is not crazy rn

    • @CanadaBlue85
      @CanadaBlue85 Před 12 dny +3

      @@juvialockser9912 he's the host of hockey podcast, not a leaf podcast. I've got no problem with talking about the leafs but the last three episodes have been 90% leafs talk, which I'm fine with considering the perpetual dumpster fire that team and city is. But so much happened that they didn't talk about, and I don't just mean Steve's lack of journalistic due diligence and professionalism in regards to the MLH debacle.

    • @whoopass2rb
      @whoopass2rb Před 12 dny +5

      @@CanadaBlue85 I'm sorry to break this to you but they started out as a leaf's podcast. And if that wasn't evident, they say all the time they are a leafs first podcast lol. Of course if you don't want to believe that without the timestamps, fair, but then there's Steve's channel which is leafs content. Oh but this isn't Steve's channel... ah yes, but the podcast is the "steve dangle podcast network" implying it's an extension of his content lol. Short answer: they're a leaf's podcast lol, whether you access that or not.
      Look I get it, we have two other Canadian teams doing well this year and guaranteed one makes it to round 3. Then you have some pretty heavy hitters in the top 8 still beyond those two - its great hockey and some interesting stories. But there's a reason why leaf fans overtake opponents arenas. There's a reason why the leafs are the most valuable franchise. The harsh reality is the leafs sell, even if they are mediocre. In fact they sell so well when they are mediocre that its way more than at least a 1/3rd of the league on their best of days. So content gets created for the cash cows. When you add the fact that we're at the cross roads of a decade run of not-good-enough, it sparks a lot of conversation.
      Ask them to cover other content sure, I know they will appease to that. But don't expect them not to talk leafs when this is very much a leafs centric podcast lol. Even when there's not much to say, they will find a way to link it back to the leafs, its not hard to do. Embrace that and push for the stories you want covered on top of it.

    • @aviscooo
      @aviscooo Před 12 dny +1

      @@CanadaBlue85then don’t listen? Leafs are more important than your favourite team even if the leafs finished in 32nd place. Get lost and never come back.

    • @CanadaBlue85
      @CanadaBlue85 Před 12 dny +2

      @@aviscooo no

  • @travishopkins6539
    @travishopkins6539 Před 12 dny +28

    Steve and Adam are in a real dog fight over who can lose any ounce of credibility they had the fastest

  • @pedrolanca2935
    @pedrolanca2935 Před 9 dny +2

    I love how people always go like "They will give the moon for this player that we DON'T want" like the other teams don't see the same issues you do...lol

  • @vinitshah4457
    @vinitshah4457 Před 12 dny +3

    2017 Penguins didn’t have letang in the playoffs. They had Ron Hainsey

  • @brettsaunders3880
    @brettsaunders3880 Před 12 dny +3

    Just realized Steve is the type of guy to read the back of every hockey card and it makes so much sense now 😂

  • @gylduran9217
    @gylduran9217 Před 12 dny +142

    No mention about the MLH debacle is really concerning, Steve really fucked up and needs to address this more than taking down the video, we are owed an explanation
    EDIT: Saw Adam talked about this on the Canucks vs. Oilers stream tonight, seems Steve was burned by a source. I think this is a message to stop trying to be an "Insider" reporting on something when you literally have multiple professional reporters on your payroll to verify info. You didn't think for one second the info was extremely suspicious and to verify with CJ, Julian, Arpon Basu, etc Genuinely wild you fell for a story like that

    • @B2Roland
      @B2Roland Před 12 dny +39

      Genuinely disappointing. I never want to hear a holier than thou attitude from these clowns again.

    • @jaikohaal
      @jaikohaal Před 12 dny +9

      @@B2RolandIt really is that^ the holier than thou attitude. It wouldn’t be such a big deal if they did not take so much pride in it, but here we are.

    • @stephenphillips6245
      @stephenphillips6245 Před 12 dny +6

      What is this MLH debacle and what does it entail?

    • @sebastiencarrieres8825
      @sebastiencarrieres8825 Před 12 dny +4

      Serious question, what is the MLH debacle?

    • @jaikohaal
      @jaikohaal Před 12 dny +6

      @@stephenphillips6245 so basically they posted a video yesterday about a league that would be of a certain caliber, and whatever details. The salary cap, number of teams number of players, and everything was a little too sketch so people were already doubting it. Steve tweeted today that there was some questionable information and therefore they took down the video.
      At the moment are two possibilities: they got paid to do an ad and they did not disclose that or bad journalism. Both of which should be addressed before this video is published.

  • @nicholasgordon2232
    @nicholasgordon2232 Před 12 dny +30

    4:25. Adam, 1 time the Europeans have won the Ryder cup in last 30 years?? Dude , they have manhandled the U.S in totality over a 30 year span. No idea how that comment made the surface.

    • @lastresort3188
      @lastresort3188 Před 12 dny +2

      Adam isn’t American though so should he care they handled them?

    • @Onehandtuck
      @Onehandtuck Před 12 dny +17

      They seem to talk out of their asses recently, they seem like that uncle that acts like they know everything just because they try stating what they’re saying as a fact

    • @B2Roland
      @B2Roland Před 12 dny +2

      ​@@Onehandtuckrecently?

    • @thechefmike
      @thechefmike Před 12 dny

      Why ​@@Onehandtuck are here then

    • @bluelion1995
      @bluelion1995 Před 12 dny +4

      Stupid people say stupid things. Since 2002 it’s 8-3 for Europe.

  • @cammooers4438
    @cammooers4438 Před 12 dny +4

    Penguins never had letang in the 2017 playoffs. Justin Schultz was their #1

  • @dashirin2756
    @dashirin2756 Před 12 dny +5

    It’s always a great day for a pod

  • @bondageknightgael9410
    @bondageknightgael9410 Před 12 dny +3

    The craziest stat from that Canucks comeback was that they held the oilers shotless for the duration of the comeback to tying the game.

  • @xFenix1016x
    @xFenix1016x Před 12 dny +6

    People crap on the panthers regular season last year and act like it was a shock they went to the finals. They literally won the president's trophy the year before...

    • @johnq2068
      @johnq2068 Před 12 dny +1

      With a completely different core

    • @Nathanielhiggerson66
      @Nathanielhiggerson66 Před 12 dny +2

      @@johnq2068yeah, this one is better for the playoffs. the core earlier was a regular season core

    • @johnq2068
      @johnq2068 Před 12 dny +1

      @@Nathanielhiggerson66 hands down this is a better core. That Matthew’s trade was genius. Florida is scary good. 👍

  • @BarnesGannon
    @BarnesGannon Před 12 dny +12

    Think it was a mistake to not touch on the MLH stuff here. Still a fan and will continue to watch/listen, but you can't just sweep that under the rug...

    • @evinrock5717
      @evinrock5717 Před 10 dny

      They preach they are holier than thou and try to seem so perfect. Make fun of anyone with the opposite opinions. Hope they learn from it.

  • @stevesteffan6616
    @stevesteffan6616 Před 11 dny +3

    Not that it matters but, Europe has won 8 of the last 11 Ryder Cups.

  • @TheChaosOfTheShadows
    @TheChaosOfTheShadows Před 12 dny +1

    Yay been waiting for this for a while

  • @user-oi3jz6fv8p
    @user-oi3jz6fv8p Před 12 dny +13

    I think I need a break from Adam's control issues. Maybe just watch LFRs

    • @luc0007
      @luc0007 Před 12 dny +3

      The "we'll get to that later" "I wanna save that for later" stuff?

    • @cedricfr19
      @cedricfr19 Před 12 dny +6

      It’s infuriating. “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves” and hushes Steve and Jesse. Then proceeds to steer the conversation into whatever angle he would like it to go in. Just let the podcast flow man, it’s much more natural that way.

    • @imrippingthefuckingheadoff
      @imrippingthefuckingheadoff Před 12 dny

      @@cedricfr19 He's the Gregg Opie Hughes of the show

    • @peytonmassey4049
      @peytonmassey4049 Před 12 dny +11

      They make fun of Steve for being an iceberg but having to listen to Adam kill Steve’s momentum every 10 minutes is infuriating. Not to mention Adam’s hockey knowledge just seems to be getting worse?? He just constantly spouts off unfounded nonsense about teams he doesn’t watch lmao

    • @user-oi3jz6fv8p
      @user-oi3jz6fv8p Před 12 dny +7

      Steve, is one I tune in for. I don't tune in to watch him being mocked or having Adam stomp on his delivery.

  • @sc2jolt
    @sc2jolt Před 12 dny +7

    last 11 ryder cups Europe has won 8...

  • @You-Cant-Do-That.
    @You-Cant-Do-That. Před 12 dny +6

    Please explain MLH. Thank you.

  • @dfu3764
    @dfu3764 Před 11 dny +1

    Tons of respect to Keefe, recorded breaking regular season coach, knew they couldn't get the playoff goals seasons ago and tried to get then there. Years down the road leafs fans win miss Keefe and the points in season he bought. Good coach , shelf time ran out

  • @user-vh9vw7un9b
    @user-vh9vw7un9b Před 12 dny +2

    Zach Werenski, Zach Hyman and Nazim Kadri. There was your core to build a team around.

  • @Jamminmagic
    @Jamminmagic Před 12 dny +41

    You guys can address it or let it fester, I'll be waiting eagerly with baited breath

    • @luc0007
      @luc0007 Před 12 dny +7

      Why do you even care

    • @johnnyskinwalker4095
      @johnnyskinwalker4095 Před 11 dny +1

      nobody cares

    • @Meece11
      @Meece11 Před 10 dny

      ​@@luc0007Because he's a loser with nothing else to do than wait around for a podcast host to apologize for something that doesn't matter

  • @scottwill19
    @scottwill19 Před 12 dny +2

    First of all, if you were paying attention to the World Championships last year when Latvia won bronze you DEFINITELY know who Silovs is. He won MVP. He was the biggest story outside the playoffs at the time.
    Also I hope this was recorded after the MLH debacle. Have to address it.

  • @mikeenglish844
    @mikeenglish844 Před 12 dny +4

    Sheldon was chastised in the media for his fired up "this is the time" speech. Damned if u do damned if u don't! Rookie pres, rookie GM, rookie couch. Mistakes were made

  • @dolandarkxgrandayy6953
    @dolandarkxgrandayy6953 Před 12 dny +2

    Sheldon Keefe's video is like Frodo when he was about to Sail off into the Undying Lands.

  • @lukewaggoner9513
    @lukewaggoner9513 Před 11 dny +2

    There aren't 31 teams calling on Mitch Marner. Even if his bonus is paid out, his cap hit is still the same.
    Few teams care about real dollar payouts. They care far more about cap hit, and there aren't 31 teams that can fit that dude under the cap.

  • @crafting_after_midnight4154

    My husband and I were laughing at the mic issues as well LOL

  • @ajbolt7
    @ajbolt7 Před 12 dny +2

    A recent case supporting Steve’s talk of big bodies at the net around 53:00, the Canucks made that big comeback against the Predators using Nikita Zadorov as their net front guy for the 6v5. There’s definitely something to it.

  • @alaafouari
    @alaafouari Před 12 dny +100

    How about speaking about the MLH thing

    • @VED34
      @VED34 Před 12 dny +9

      Adam has to write some bs scripted pr statement first

    • @hillfortherstudios2757
      @hillfortherstudios2757 Před 12 dny +5

      What is mlh?

    • @KevinJL
      @KevinJL Před 12 dny

      ​@@hillfortherstudios2757Major League Hockey

    • @blackwatch6649
      @blackwatch6649 Před 12 dny

      @@hillfortherstudios2757 It's Major League Hockey - a 3v3 hockey league starting later this year. Steve "broke" that "story" yesterday, but the video appears to be have been deleted. Supposedly it would be Saudi-funded adn people believe that SDPN was paid to "break" it.

    • @luc0007
      @luc0007 Před 12 dny +3

      They better not apologize. Apologize to public forums always backfire. Just own it.
      They could advertise shrooms, weed, alcohol, cigarettes and I wouldn't care. I'd still watch, my cracked version of CZcams that auto skips video ads would still skip them.
      Not a big deal at all

  • @astroking3290
    @astroking3290 Před 12 dny +2

    Adam drank the Kool-Aid 😂

  • @NathanLipetz
    @NathanLipetz Před 12 dny +2

    47:16 if you follow IIHF, you'd 100% know of Silvos

  • @mikekerr5843
    @mikekerr5843 Před 11 dny

    Mady & Gentlemen, thanks- great show- love the MSLE * inside* info😊

  • @arnaudcote9139
    @arnaudcote9139 Před 12 dny +2

    Love the shirt Jessie! Gotta promote!

  • @scottbarrett9
    @scottbarrett9 Před 12 dny +3

    That third string goalie on vancouver is debatabily the reason latvia beat the US

  • @user-oi3jz6fv8p
    @user-oi3jz6fv8p Před 12 dny +5

    Adam's shut up I'm talking left arm move is back

  • @Krokodilius
    @Krokodilius Před 12 dny +2

    nice to see everyone still trying to run marner out of town. i'ma paraphrase kurt cobain: "it's not the team i hate, it's their fans."

  • @AlexaDeWit
    @AlexaDeWit Před 12 dny +2

    Alouettes mentioned let's go birds

  • @user-ou8cr7ve2m
    @user-ou8cr7ve2m Před 10 dny +1

    That was a whole lot on an uneventful press conference when there’s 4 series going on 🧐

  • @ajbolt7
    @ajbolt7 Před 12 dny +10

    I am hoping we get some talk about the Canucks-Oilers game in this episode (before things go to hell for us tonight lol)
    Also I once again gotta acknowledge how good Adam’s Canucks streams have been, I was very skeptical when they said Adam’s gonna be doing them but it’s been a great time.

  • @Longislandrarity
    @Longislandrarity Před 11 dny +2

    Adam doesn’t understand economics confirmed.

  • @SpookyBoi37
    @SpookyBoi37 Před 12 dny +7

    the TML are exhausting

  • @BurpsMcGurps
    @BurpsMcGurps Před 12 dny +12

    LUL Adam is such a boomer when it comes to Kyle Dubas. "Who cares about his feelings? He lied about spending time with his family!"' But with Brad Treliving, he's so sensitive. "He HAD to give Sheldon Keefe an extension... because he thought he was such a nice guy!" "He HAD to give John Klingberg a contract, because apparently he's unable to find a better D man to trade for!"
    It's so weird. He has lost all ability to be unbiased and neutral. He used to be the most unbiased member of this podcast, now he is BY FAR the worst.

    • @KyleMacSkill
      @KyleMacSkill Před 11 dny

      Dubas apologists are the biggest group of annoying children in the hockey world. The guy is a mid ass GM and the ultimate politician. Go cry in a corner

  • @_Nywoe
    @_Nywoe Před 12 dny +10

    Look, I love you guys, but I really expected the MLH thing to be addressed, seems pretty weird that it hasn't been considering the criticism in the comments and it's eventual deletion.

    • @luc0007
      @luc0007 Před 12 dny

      What was the criticism? 3on3? Saudi funded? I don't understand the uproar one bit

    • @WarHorseMumbles
      @WarHorseMumbles Před 12 dny

      potential false information ​@@luc0007

    • @Meece11
      @Meece11 Před 10 dny

      I don't think they care about a handful of chronically offended people being upset about something that doesn't matter. Just a thought

  • @flynnster
    @flynnster Před 12 dny +10

    Does Steve know of new hockey 🏒 leagues opening in 🇨🇦 Canada 😂😂😂😂

  • @tysonwarkentin8191
    @tysonwarkentin8191 Před 12 dny +4

    Steve: "So [a franchise] is just a hockey card"
    Adam: "Agreed, 100%"
    Steve: "OMG you put it in terms I can understand!"
    This is why I watch hahahaha

  • @dearhunterphotography3557

    31:11 Steve is categorically wrong, here. In literally from the Amazon Doc they were just referencing, Keefe's speech to the team before their choke-job to end the series in OT, he makes a speech that is for the ages. Really disappointed this wasn't brought up because when all the FireKeefe™ mouthbreathers were sharing that clip of Berube vs Keefe, all I could think about was the speech from the Montreal series.

  • @Blades500
    @Blades500 Před 12 dny +1

    Adam Brought it up at the beginning of the livestream for Van/Edm game 2. But I agree, they should have made a video or something more about it earlier.

  • @Spittlebone
    @Spittlebone Před 12 dny +1

    Just in time for the drive home

  • @nubbles8243
    @nubbles8243 Před 12 dny +1

    Reasons to move:
    Marner: Not sure if Leafs fans have universally united on something as big as moving this player
    Tavares: Great player, getting older, would be a great mentor in Chicago for Bedard
    Rielly: Been with the organization for 12 years. Got past the first round once. its time to move on from our "#1 D"

  • @michaelrudd1927
    @michaelrudd1927 Před 12 dny

    A time for patients was Shanny’s Ford performance center from his last conference just kept saying it over and over 😂

  • @B2Roland
    @B2Roland Před 11 dny +1

    1:24:23 "Don't you play into that." what's that Adam? The reality that Mitch doesn't have to waive if he doesn't want to? It isn't playing into anything to acknowledge the reality.

  • @johnnyskinwalker4095
    @johnnyskinwalker4095 Před 11 dny

    Steve raised an amazing point. If you take a bottom of the league hardworking team and put them in the finals, what they would do. That was basically the Habs when they went to the finals after during Covid, the NHL let in two more teams in the playoffs Montreal and Chicago. In the regular season, the same D core with Weber, Chiarot, Edmunston, Kulak, etc....were damn pilons and couldn't get out of their zone. It was maddening to watch. In the playoffs they became an amazing shield wall where it was difficult to get at Price. This is what it takes, basically. Regular season is about skills, playoffs is about grit. And the highly skilled Leafs forward just cannot get into the greasy areas. None of them can. Time to move them and build a team where the top guys can do that as well.

  • @pattonsivory
    @pattonsivory Před 12 dny +2

    sorry, Toronto deserves a second Hockey club. This whole Leaf thing has gotten to be such dogshit, I mean, Ive only been a fan since '75 and Im just tired of these really stupid executives continuously making garbage decisions. They prob have no-move clauses too. Toronto deserves so much more than what the MLSE offers.

  • @SURVIVORkid23
    @SURVIVORkid23 Před 9 dny

    “Tavares didn’t meet with the Canadiens”
    Steve: “LOL”
    John Tavares: “you’re welcome for 1 series win in 6 years LOL”
    You pick the dumbest things to flex about Steve 😂

  • @Nsquaredmusic
    @Nsquaredmusic Před 12 dny +9

    dude thats crazy. you just broke news of a new 3v3 $30m cap 14 or whatever team NA pro leauge and just did a pod pretending you didnt lol. thats so goofy bro. you're supposed to be a professional innit

  • @ericschuck9147
    @ericschuck9147 Před 11 dny

    I like how at the end, these guys just realized than an elite defenseman is needed. I've said it before, my problem with the Leafs isn't that they're paying their superstars it's that all their superstars are forwards. Spread the love to other positions!

  • @BashfulBeretta87
    @BashfulBeretta87 Před 12 dny

    It was only Sportsnet broadcast that had the bad sound for tree I’m pretty sure.

  • @tannerw817
    @tannerw817 Před 12 dny +1

    Gotta love a show that starts with, "I just think it's funny how..."

  • @jugsteve
    @jugsteve Před 12 dny +1

    Boys, what's the hold up this time?

  • @Danstraightedge
    @Danstraightedge Před 11 dny +1

    Jeez there were more mistakes in this pod than my first engagement.

  • @matthewre8660
    @matthewre8660 Před 9 dny

    Someone said the problem with Carolina is that they 'play playoff hockey' all year - so they're always 'on' and seem better during the season and then you get to the playoffs and every other team /starts/ playing playoff hockey and the Canes don't adjust. I think the Leafs are in the same boat.

  • @rateddetar54
    @rateddetar54 Před 7 dny

    If I remember correctly one of the years the Pens one the cup I remember all their d man being injured and Ron Hainsey being their #1 (he signed with leafs the year after)

  • @Bizbappo7171
    @Bizbappo7171 Před 12 dny +2

    We’re just gonna pretend the MLH breaking news didn’t happen eh

    • @silgarf
      @silgarf Před 12 dny

      He addresses it on twitter

  • @anthonyfaccaro7118
    @anthonyfaccaro7118 Před 12 dny +1

    Covid boned my blues pretty good as well. We were a well oiled machine on march 12th 2020, looking to defend our championship. Then 4 months later in the bubble we forgot how to play hockey. We made the avs work for it in '22 but aside from that its been a downward spiral, missing the playoffs 2 yrs in a row now. Covid isnt the only reason why, but if we made a deep run in '20 in a parallel universe with no covid, maybe even repeat, this team is way different and berube is still here.

    • @85blutch
      @85blutch Před 11 dny

      The EK65 contract signed in 2019 would also have been way less of a problem for the Sharks if the cap went up the next few years. I like a lot of things about how our rebuild is going though, so i guess there is that.

  • @seancaroll4483
    @seancaroll4483 Před 12 dny

    I'm not sure if you know but during the regular season Woll and Sammy were in the bottom 5 of goaltenders with traffic.

  • @spatuloso
    @spatuloso Před 10 dny +1

    One of these days steve will read a singular other book. One day.
    **believes so f-ing hard**

  • @lordzeromega
    @lordzeromega Před 12 dny +22

    Steve needed to address the MLH issue.

    • @YasserUM
      @YasserUM Před 12 dny +1

      What's the MLH issue?

    • @amatt2116
      @amatt2116 Před 12 dny +1

      @@YasserUMhe hyped up a new pro hockey league starting up in a couple months in October, with a 30 million dollar salary cap in a video. He has since took it down.

  • @realrealityeast6278
    @realrealityeast6278 Před 12 dny +1

    Chucky was literally a ghost for Calgary in the playoffs literally every time they made it. Its not as bad of a trade as people make it out to be Weegar is a stud too. Combo that with the fact you knew he wasn't gonna resign Calgary still won that trade. They would have had a ghost another year and got nothing if it went any other way.

  • @InsignificantNick
    @InsignificantNick Před 12 dny

    No talk of the MLH thing and the video on it was deleted, too. I've never been more confused in my life lmao

  • @davisozolins2861
    @davisozolins2861 Před 10 dny

    47:25 Arturs is a create a ggoalie name cause it sounds like it.
    Definetly heard of this goalie. Arturs Irbe,latvian goalie legend and latvian national team goalie coach. Coached Silovs in 2023 bronze medal run.

  • @user-iw3ip8kc5x
    @user-iw3ip8kc5x Před 10 dny

    The only question all Die Hard Leafs Fans want is , its been 57 years and counting what are you going to do about it? A National Hockey League 100+ year old franchise. What's the Problem? Fix it and Get the CUP!!

  • @workshoptelescope
    @workshoptelescope Před 11 dny +1

    Sat on both your plums with that MLH story.

  • @JasondenHollander-qj5hp

    Steve “ it’s because the Mug is rare?! “
    Perfect analogy by Adam

  • @steviegee9606
    @steviegee9606 Před 11 dny

    What really happened last year was Dubas went to trade Marner, he was told no. He talked to the penguins and got a deal in his back pocket, went back to the management and tried to go over shanahan because he realized (four years too late instead of five) that it wasn’t gonna work. Tried to get final say on hockey decisions. MLSE went with shanahan. Is that all hearsay, sure but it’s the only thing that makes sense

  • @laurensomers9688
    @laurensomers9688 Před 10 dny

    The 2017 Pens did not have Letang, he didn't play a single game in the playoffs, he had a neck injury

  • @mastertonef
    @mastertonef Před 12 dny

    I couldn't understand what Treliving said about Joe Woll's injury. I was like who is he talking about? Yes. His microphone was not working well.

  • @briandonovan1381
    @briandonovan1381 Před 11 dny

    I wasn't see the press conference but didn't see where a reporter asked if shanahan is getting an extension. Is he gone next year?

  • @88laserbeam
    @88laserbeam Před 12 dny +1

    A year late...a year late....so what you're saying Jesse, is that Leafs managemeant is restarded?

  • @miyu545
    @miyu545 Před 11 dny

    Ya, there is a reason why we like baseketball, but then again, there is a reason why we gave that sport to the US a very long time ago and have really never looked back.

  • @ducksfan_1149
    @ducksfan_1149 Před 12 dny

    are y’all not going thru that coyotes press conference