Daily Driving With a Welded Diff | How Bad Is It?
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Quick video addressing the guys that are asking me if they should run a welded diff in their daily driver or not. Listed below are the questions / topics I went over:
00:20 - Do your tires wear out more?
01:42 - Does parking become harder?
02:34 - Driving at low speed / tight turns a pain?
03:30 - Do you break axles all the time?
04:36 - How noisy is a welded diff?
04:57 - Will you drift every turn?
06:57 - Should you run a welded diff?
Anyways, I hoped that helped some of you guys out!
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Would welding the diff help kick out the rear easier on a really low hp engine( I think my CA20E barely makes a 100 )? or should I just upgrade the engine a bit more before welding it? on a side note you should sell me the KA when the time comes for the swap ;)
Ceelos Yes it helps a lot, I welded my diff on my e36 316i bmw (~100hp) and now it's super easy to kick out the rear ;)
TorlyX thanks for the insight! next upgrade will def be the welded diff now and then just thrash the poor CA20 till it blows to swap in a ka :D
bought a rebuilt 350z and it doesn't drive straight. rear left has toe and it's been aligned. should I just change the alignment to make it drive straight or would adjustable control arms help? if anyone could please help. thank you
Google my man, its your friend. Use it. Don't listen to CZcams Mechanics, because you'll tell them something is wrong with your tire and they'll tell you that you need an engine rebuild.
Welded diff also makes your car extremely hard to push. If you break down and have to push your car into a parking lot you will be fighting the grip of the rear tires as you turn.
This is true haha
Okami Drift that's what I was wondering I always here people say that makes me reluctant especially in a old daily that I want to go sideways in lol
Brandon Monge You can make due with it, it won't be too bad. I have a welded diff in my S13 and I had one in a miata I used to have. I had my fair share of breakdowns and always managed. Go for it because dorifuto is always worth it
Okami Drift definitely my camaro is 3200 lbs and moving it around in the shop is awful without rollers but completely worth it
definitely!!! have u ever tried push starting a car wit welded diff.. it doesnt happen lol
Been on welded diff for about 8 years daily driven, does it wear tires out fast probably, at the end of the day it gets drifted. So tires get replaced regardless. No issues parking.
How is it going to affect the rear subframe, bmw’s are known to have rear subframe mounts cracking problem and that scares me?
If i just use my car for commuting would the diff or axles bust? I bought the car with the Diff already welded
david cardona can u drive it on the freeway?
Right they go down faster because of driver not welded diff 😂
@@sir_neek yes lol
Fun Fact: The Le Mans winning Mazda 787B had a solid diff, to increase the odds of being able to limp it back to the pits to avoid a DNF in the case of some sort of diff failure or axle failure.
Lots of race cars had/have completely solid "diffs" (spools) :)
I think everyone on Group C running a spool diff. The luxury of electronic diff it’s there yet.
3:06 technically drifting
Insane angle xd
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You driving the tight curves and shifting sure took me back! I live in Oregon and I remember in, and right after high school ('75-'79) a bunch of my buddies and I would would pick up some girls and head to the coast on Highway 126. Boy you talk about a windy road all the way! I had the most gorgeous little 1969 Datsun 510 2 door 1600cc that would fly around corners with sticky tires! God I miss that car so much and wish I had it back! I can say that about dozens of different cars, trucks, motorcycles, etc. One of my other favorites that i would do almost anything to get back was a 1965 Nissan Patrol 4X4 that I installed Super swampers and lifted it four inches. I'm currently working on and driving (I've owned since 1986) a 1972 Plymouth Road Runner GTX, like the black one in F9, except mine is set up for drag racing and is Chrysler B5 Blue with chrome silver stripes and highlights. My RB big block is "poked and stroked to 528ci. I haven't had a chance to get a time slip showing what she will do on an actual drag strip, because the nearest strip is over 70 miles away and with 4:11 gears in the rear end I'm not driving it up there. I have plans for an old camp trailer that I am going to reinforce the frame and be able to tow it all up and down the west coast! Have fun, Drive safe!✌
00:20 - Do your tires wear out more?
01:42 - Does parking become harder?
02:34 - Driving at low speed/tight turns a pain?
03:30 - Do you break axles all the time?
04:36 - How noisy is a welded diff?
04:57 - Will you drift every turn?
Iffu worried about tires dont weld ur shit 😂 also parking a lil harder cus u loose turn radius , people think it’s sketch to drive welded but it’s not ur not gonna spin out or drift unintentionally
3:17 lowkey burnout
yoooo youre the GOAT man . your vids are so informative and straight to the point!!! Im following your footsteps.
Im happy someone made a good video on this subject besides me trying to explain/ go over every myth of dailying a car with a welded to diff to a friend.
Daily drove my first 86 with a spool for 2 yrs in Nippon. Much love ❤️
Another concern is heavy wear on the bushings, not that much if they are new or depending on the style of suspension in the back but when they get old any looseness in them will create movement and the tire will start making small jumps instead of slipping a little all the time, When that happens you can say goodbye to your bushings because they will wear out in no time!
I also want to add that you wont be popular at places with a gravel driveway because you will tear that up pretty good if you have to turn sharply on it.
great info, perfect timing! planning on welding my daily real soon
I had both, a BMW with a strong LSD (75%) and a welded on in my Ford Sierra(EU Sierra). For me the handling of the welded one was way better.
The BMW was a good drifter BUT driving it on daily base was hard. Every time you hit the throttle while doing a turn, LSD closed and the car was suddenly understeering. And when you took back the power LSD opened and you suddenly went into the corner because of less understeering.
So fast turns were really difficould and surprising to drive!
Its worth noting that a welded diff is more likely to break the diff itself. That's the issue I've had the most on my sc400(heavy AF) was having my diff grenade and my second welded diff is on the way out aswell. You might want to start on a tight diff that isn't out of adjustment because if it is even a little you will have noise in no time. Steerings also heavyier but that's only an issue if you don't have power steering.
I just noticed your logo on the shift knob, love it
That’s it I’m welding my diff on my wheelchair
Lmaoooo
Quality content as always! Keep up the good work man!
I've been running a welded diff and 5 degrees camber for the last 2 years on my 86 camaro drift car and driving it all the time so it's definitely not bad lol but to be fair I also burn up around 20+ tires a year on the back and 2 on the front but the camber doesn't really tear them up I just like to put new tires on the front every 6 months to keep good grip for drifting and testing out other brands. Great video and very informative keep it up man!
I really never noticed a difference with a welded diff just that tires do wear out sooner. just in the rain it does get a little sketchy on the turns and curves but to be honest its fun other than that its fine.
absolutely love how in depth and thorough you are keep up the great videos 🖒🖒
Andrew Marsden ha beat me to it... I love this aspect of the channel. As someone looking to start drifting I've learned a lot from the videos. every time I want to ask a question he ends up addressing it before I even ask. amazing channel.
Don't usually comment but awesome video man wicked informative and straight to the point keep it up 👍🏽
+Sami Monzer Thanks man :)
Very well presented video with all the facts and video evidence. Appreciate the advice
Finally, he is back uploading😍
Thanks, very good explanation with demonstration.
Helped me a lot.
love this guys 240 hes put in mad work and deserves way more veiws and subs
Matt M Adam lz 240sx is way better
having mine welded right now, stoked!
Haven’t even finished watching but still subscribing because of the organization
Man this video is so helpful, legend
Thanks bruh this made me feel a lot better, getting a 97 Miata this saturday and it's got a welded diff and I've never anything like that before.
with a 97 you should’ve had an LSD diff
@@christiandavis1352 Nah it's just a base model so regular diff but dude welded it.
an S-chassis with any increased angle, just simply inner tie rod spacers, with a welded diff is way easier to park than a car with stock angle and open diff into tight parallel parking spots. the welded also helps due to the binding, which allows the car to not roll away when doing precision moves with clutch, its like you are left foot braking.
again great video and clarity and thanx adel for the inspiration!! I hope we can slide some day warrior!
Good shit, thanks Adel!
i have a volvo 240 wagon with a welded diff and full heim joint rear suspension with 235 tires. I daily drive it and i can hardly even tell its welded! even parking, no noise, chirps, scrubbing, nothing. Maybe its the longer wheel base and solid axle contributing but for me its super super super tame
Great video!
Honestly when I welded the diff on my e46 i didn’t even notice a difference in daily driving ....but it slides super easy now best DIY I’ve done on the car 💯
Did you change bushings on it im interested in doing it on my e46 but idk if I should do poly bushings to help
@@street_influencer yah I changed to poly bushings ... better to just do it while the diff is out so you won’t have to do the job twice and yah Poly is way better
Oh yea I’m definitely welding the diff in my g35
Ran a 97 wrangler as a dd for two years. Custom Ford 9 inch, spool, 355 gear. Main thing was needed solid lower arms to handle the torque.
don't weld corolla diffs...the axles snap so easy, just lettin ya know, i went trough 3 rear end in a month of drifting
Even those axles tend to break sometimes
Ricer Shiina Same issue with mercedes diffs. If not weld it and just do one tirefire, diff is gonna blow. When you weld it its gonna blow anyways in matter of time but it lasts longer than open diff. I have been broken 5-6 diffs in 3 years. Cant remember accurate number anymore :D
Ricer Shiina most guys run Kaaz 1.5 way difs in 86s iv seen
Ricer Shiina Even the 25 mil kouki ones break. Weir performances sells axle kits with 28 mil axles, heard good things about these.
www.weirperformance.com/axlekitscompleterear.html
iff you can even get in contact with them.. i tried contacting them for the axles and hub, no reply n shit, and they cost a fortune
you should do a video comparing a tubed front end vs a non tubed front end...or a pros and cons
thats it im welding the diff on my winterbeater xD ive kind of been like "should i or should i not" its just that im afraid to break axles or the actual diff, but since its an old volvo 945 turbo i wont run more than stock tiresize on it
Thanks a lot for good info!
i ran a 235 stretched on a 10" wheel only had one problem in 2 years which was that i broke the bolts holding my axle to my diff
Sometimes when people weld a diff they put sooooo much heat into the differential that it actually warps the metal and causes the gear mesh to go out of spec and you will get a loud gear whine when driving straight. I believe this is some of the noise concerns people have..
My situation a lil different. K-5 with 33 inch Super Swampers Lincoln locked 14bolt.Most o the time it's tollerable but in the rain I'm drifting like you guys(jus not on purpose)😁
Interesting... see I would hate on a welded diff for literally every reason listed... surprising to see that the effects are so minimal
you should bring back those videos where you compare/review products :D
How much does a set of new tyres cost you on a drift day? What do you use?
Best explanation!!!!
The only time a locker rear diff is a real concern is on low traction situations like in the rain or ice. Otherwise it's not hardly any different than a normal rear diff
Question I got a 95 Ford thunderbird little stuff done been wanting to drift it but but the question is I produce alot of torque on my stock rearend will that cause me to keep replacing axles if I wielded the diff
All my questions are about LSD vs. welded differential, are you gonna make that video soon? I anecdotally heard LSD slides less predictably and what not. I'm thinking of either buying the cheapest NA miata I can find welding diff and stripping for track buisness, or getting the cheapest salvaged GT86. I'd like to get into drifting but I don't think I can afford all the tires on top of track time... I mostly just wanna be able to control oversteer slides confidently, for now not looking to link drifts yet
Are you guys with welded diffs really getting around 5000 miles before it wears out like his example? That seems quite low to me. Just wondering what others get.
3:25 the most anticlimactic doughnut
Seems like one you can lock and unlock would be preferable
I ran welded diffs for years the only issue is it can get squirmy on tight turns in the rain if you were not paying attention.
love the vid as always, any plans to restore the dash or keep as is ?
I will fiberglass over the ac vents and have the cracks filled and then the entire thing vinyl wrapped. I went over it in the update video.
how do you know when you broke an axle? Jack in up and then spin one rear tire and see if the other spins?
I have 255 and I foresee breaking an axle soon lol my diff is welded but I normally don't run anything bigger than a 225 we just had some nice potenzas at my shop for grabs and they were the right size
I came here to find info bc i just installed a junkyard axle that the diff is welded on my 87 suburban. This releaved some of my concerns.
Can you break down your rear suspension please !!!! My car is super low and my brand new axels keep breaking
Is it safe to drive on a welded diff and how about on the freeway?
has no body with a nissan heard of selectable lockers? i think every built jeep has them at this point, rubicons even come factory with them.. theres a switch on your dash.. off is a completely open diff, on is locked solid.. id estimate theyre about 500-600$ and probably a couple hundred cheaper if you get a cable actuated one and run a cable pull to the cab
itd pay for itself after one broken axleshaft or one set of preworn tires
I
Have a 95 bronco with a locker in the back and I live in Alaska and going around a turn on the snow or ice it likes to push through turns a lot but other then that and in the summer the tire churp it isn’t all that bad besides the winter it causes a lot of anxiety for turning in an intersection but that’s it
thank you man, very informative video!
How is it going to affect the rear subframe, bmw’s are known to have rear subframe mounts cracking problem and that scares me
If U axel hop sideways you will blow Axel's very quick. I usually blow them in 2-3 days by clutch kicking around corners.
Would you recommend welding a diff on a bmw 328i 2008? I want it to do donuts and o heard you can snap your open diff if you do donuts with an open diff. Now I don’t wanna do donuts anymore. Plz help
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great video
Are you ever going to do a video on the RPM LED on your hood?
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This dude dash is confirming the stereo type
I drove my welded diff E60 520d daily. To be honest it was fun and didnt cause any troubles, it was hard to do u turns or low speed tight turns, sometimes you have to back it up etc. But it wasn t a big deal, i drove it like 30k km including long trips, never had an issue with it. But it slowed down the acceleration, i didnt measure how much it slowed down but it did. But car changed even in rain the car wants to do what you tell it to, if you want to slide the back it slides, if you want to stay in the line it stays. It was a nice idea to weld it for that car. But many cars gearboxes cant handle that weight so careful, I dont recommend doing this to auto geared e60s. It can cause a lot of problems. Manuel 520d E60 welded dif, no problem in 30k km.
I’m considering welding my diff on my 1991 e30 but it’s my daily and I’m concerned on the longevity and how healthy it is for the engine. I’m doing it because I want to start taking it to the track but don’t want it to ruin daily driving from work and back, and school and back.
@@chicken_nuts8928 for e30, doesnt matter which engine it has, i had 325 e30 with lsd and 316 with a welded diff. Pushing them both all day never had a problem. It was really funny, definetly recommend it. Parking is a bit of nerve breaking because one tire will try to spin but once you get in to a roundabout and little wet road condition... I cant describe that joy. All e30s should come with a welded diff.
Ps. If you stop on a steep hill, and if that hill is wet, dont try to go up, car will go backwards while doing a burnout 😂
@@kaan5249 thank you I appreciate🙏🏽 most definitely gonna weld my diff now I can’t wait🤙🏽😁
SoCal sidewayz sticker? Used to watch you guys when I was little
Would I have problems running 24” wheels on a welded diff
If you weld your diff it will give you better traction for "canyon" driving,drag racing etc etc, you need to make it brake traction with a welded diff to make it drift if you do not have the HP to do so, but it makes drifting more fun if you can not afford a proper LSD, it's the cheap and easy way.....
Welded my diff yesterday 💕 can't wait for the first rain :P (E36 1.6 😂)
Nice vid' dude ! But on my e36 bmw it took me 4-5hours to switch the diff for the first time ^^
How bad would it be if i go welded diff on a slammed static z with 19x11.5 wheels in the rear
Is it better for a daily/drift car is it better to get a lsd or a welded diff
I’ve got a 92 chevy s10 with a welded diff and a 350 v8 am I gonna have a problem with handling
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on a positive note, you can donut at a really low rev range 3:05 xD
do keep in mind to chill on turns with the welded diff, I slide a few days ago turning unattentional. so just be chill on turns
Danny Padilla thank you for the knowledge
Is it dangerous going fast on the highway or freeway?
I’m buying an LS400 pretty soon and going to weld the diff. it’s going to be my VIP car but can slide.
Does it ever jump around in tight turns?
i wonder is it gonna be better for time attack than open diff or oem bmw lsd
Anti roll bar and lower arm bar support. Eliminates axel problem.
In my case it will even out wear my car only likes to spin the right wheel on flat ground (I’m in Australia) (99 Holden Commodore so you probably have no clue what that is) i run 235 all round
$20 for an open diff?! lmao bih where, im out here struggling trying to find parts
What do you think of a helical diff? Just got an s15 helical for my s13, haven't installed it yet.
dam bro that table of contents in the intro made me subscribe
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sorry if it sounds dumb but can you still get on the highway at regular highways speeds with no troubles ??
Arnie Torres absolutely!
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Why does it break traction when you turn?? I don’t understand
if you're drifting the car on the weekend i'd do it. idk about dailying it during snow time. if you're just doing burn out on the side i wouldn't do that.
daily a welded z31 for many years with weekend drift runs. if you weld it right youll never open that cover again