How Scorsese Updated Goodfellas

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    In The Irishman Martin Scorsese builds on and deconstructs elements of Goodfellas to bring more meaning to the film than it would have on its own. This video essay breaks down filmmaking techniques in The Irishman and Goodfellas showing how long takes, freeze frames, and editing give the story meaning not just within it's own context but in the context of Scorsese's broader work.
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Komentáře • 537

  • @millicentchuyin6763
    @millicentchuyin6763 Před 4 lety +2024

    I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers.

  • @Andy97K
    @Andy97K Před 4 lety +1722

    The Irishman feels like the epilogue to a life lived to the fullest, yet a life that ultimately feels unfulfilling. A brilliant meditation on old age, regret and betrayal. Scorsese, we bow to you.

    • @increase9896
      @increase9896 Před 4 lety +24

      this sounds more like u getting on your knees than bowing

    • @basitk12
      @basitk12 Před 4 lety +14

      I don’t bow to no living man alive. Have some goddamn self respect.

    • @kaltronkrasniqi1568
      @kaltronkrasniqi1568 Před 4 lety +40

      @@basitk12 what's wrong with showing respect? Get your head out of your ass.

    • @DaggerSecurity
      @DaggerSecurity Před 4 lety +10

      Scorsese we stand and applaud you.

    • @mohamedsaleh9167
      @mohamedsaleh9167 Před 4 lety

      Exceptionally well said.

  • @awakenow7147
    @awakenow7147 Před 4 lety +558

    I'm a relatively young guy. But The Irishman scared the shit out of me in regards to becoming old.

  • @bryanchu5379
    @bryanchu5379 Před 4 lety +1061

    The Irishman compared to Goodfellas is just like Once Upon a Time in the West compared to The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. It revisits the well trodden path of an old exciting classic in a more mature and honest way.

    • @williamswhistlepipes
      @williamswhistlepipes Před 4 lety +4

      Bryan Chu well said or well put.👍🏻

    • @joseandres247
      @joseandres247 Před 4 lety

      Spot on

    • @sunshine.miata.
      @sunshine.miata. Před 4 lety

      the 1968 version? of once upon

    • @CharlieTooHuman
      @CharlieTooHuman Před 4 lety +5

      akshay Viswambharan Only 3 times!? Ha scrub!

    • @chinesecitizen8671
      @chinesecitizen8671 Před 4 lety

      Well, if I could do such garbage at age 80, maan. I guess that's not what people call Alzheimer. Learn to appreciate stuff buddy, for your own sake. Wish you happy holidays

  • @jarredoliveira3766
    @jarredoliveira3766 Před 4 lety +753

    Goodfellas is like a speeding corvette. Beautiful car recklessly driving its way into a crash and subsequent demise.
    The Irishman is like a Cadillac slowly depreciating and breaking down as time goes on. What was once a beautiful car now worthless after all the years and effort you’ve spent keeping it going..

    • @colinsushiboy745
      @colinsushiboy745 Před 4 lety +9

      Irishman is more like a rusty boring almost dead bmx bike. Compared to goodfellas which is a new Lamborghini lol.

    • @jarredoliveira3766
      @jarredoliveira3766 Před 4 lety +42

      Colin Sushiboy only because this generation doesn’t appreciate art. I myself am a deep thinker and The Irishman put me in a mood for like 24 hours. Emotionally speaking, Goodfellas just wasn’t deep like it’s counterpart.

    • @elpistolero9394
      @elpistolero9394 Před 4 lety +7

      You guys simply don’t appreciate art.

    • @KaizerBeatz-vf9wf
      @KaizerBeatz-vf9wf Před 4 lety +24

      ​@@jarredoliveira3766 You had to ruin an okay analogy with some 'this generation' tirade.
      Art has existed since almost the dawn of man. We have art dating back thousands of years that still exists to this day. And you think this generation - the generation with the best access to knowledge, information and communication - somehow collectively lacks the ability to appreciate art in ways that all previous generations didn't lack this ability? Give me a break lol.
      I'm part of this generation and I loved the Irishman too. I won't self-anoint myself as a deep thinker or brag about some emotional 24 hours in a state sort of thing, but I enjoyed myself seeing it as part of London film festival, having my first legally obtained drink in one hand & free popcorn in the other.
      If there is any generational disconnect though it would likely be due to the mature retrospective take on the gangster life that the movie offers, *not* because of a generation failing to appreciate art. I mean the video essay itself is a success of the CZcams gen, and Scorsese is mainstream hardly arthouse or anything only cinephiles can appreciate

    • @2000dpdpdp
      @2000dpdpdp Před 4 lety +2

      Kaizer.Beatz you didn’t have to go that deep, i’m a millennial and I agree with him

  • @CinemaStix
    @CinemaStix Před 4 lety +442

    What I couldn’t believe was that The Irishman was the first feature-length DeNiro/Scorsese collaboration since 95’s Casino.

    • @dr_volberg
      @dr_volberg Před 4 lety +56

      Marty took a real shine to Leo, starting with Gangs of New York

    • @CinemaStix
      @CinemaStix Před 4 lety +26

      mcv86 Yeah. Leo was definitely a significant fork in the road he probably wasn’t expecting. Can’t saw I ain’t satisfied with the result of it though.

    • @muayedalkhalifa3797
      @muayedalkhalifa3797 Před 4 lety +62

      It's also the first Scorcesse/Pacino collaboration ever

    • @gabrielzamarron
      @gabrielzamarron Před 4 lety

      What about “The Family”?

    • @ash-dy2dm
      @ash-dy2dm Před 3 lety

      @@gabrielzamarron that wasn’t Scorsese

  • @marwanitoh
    @marwanitoh Před 4 lety +871

    A shame Ray Liotta wasn't in The Irishman

    • @ksvba96-36
      @ksvba96-36 Před 4 lety +238

      they didn't want to add spaghetti with Marinara sauce in the contract so he refused

    • @KaizerBeatz-vf9wf
      @KaizerBeatz-vf9wf Před 4 lety +151

      I think it was for the best that he wasn't involved. Allowed the Irishman to stand on its own feet rather than being an attempt to recapture what made Goodfellas good or to profit off of that film's rep. Also allowed people like Stephen Graham to take the spotlight for his largest career role.
      Like The Irishman is a retrospective of the gangster genre & the careers of all involved, but it's *not* Goodfellas Pt 2, you know?

    • @happyplaceforever101
      @happyplaceforever101 Před 4 lety +51

      Ray Liotta could have been better because he is 10 years younger than De Niro, it would have elp in some of the scenes he was younger.
      but Ray Liotta had plastic surgery a few years ago and his face looks all fucked now.

    • @rajamb356
      @rajamb356 Před 4 lety +15

      @@happyplaceforever101 De Niro is leagues better of an actor than Ray.

    • @maryellen968
      @maryellen968 Před 4 lety +8

      Coulda played a driver or something

  • @trevorlemon9006
    @trevorlemon9006 Před 4 lety +690

    I saw someone else point this out before, but scorceses work seems to show ever higher echelons of mob life.
    Mean streets -> Low level street hoods trying to get noticed.
    Goodfellas -> 'working class' mobsters
    Casino -> 'Upper Class' mobsters
    And the Irishman shows the dudes at the very top.

    • @gpliskin
      @gpliskin Před 4 lety +153

      The Irishman also shows the end. The mob lost power and the then all powerful bosses and hitmen end up rotting in prison or asylums, old and alone.

    • @Cashcrop91
      @Cashcrop91 Před 4 lety +2

      Probably read my comment somewhere lol

    • @nationradical
      @nationradical Před 4 lety +49

      Yes, a huge takeaway I got from this was no matter how powerful any of these bosses were, ultimately leading this life leads you to one of two things: getting whacked or rotting in jail.

    • @iluapJ
      @iluapJ Před 4 lety +9

      Even Al Pacino's character admits they're not the very top

    • @fehzorz
      @fehzorz Před 4 lety +19

      Wolf of Wall Street - the system behind it all

  • @Raymando
    @Raymando Před 4 lety +432

    This movie definitely feels like a swan song to Scorsese's previous works. It really made me rethink to all of those previous movies and somewhat even my life. It felt like I was living through with Frank Sheeran. In this case, I'd say the length really helped the movie and seeing it all in one sitting is definitely the best way to experience it. I want so much to make a video on this movie myself too. BTW watching Goodfellas after The Irishman added a whole new meaning to it for sure.

    • @Raymando
      @Raymando Před 4 lety +13

      @pyropulse LOL go easy on me man. What part of "somewhat even" was I not clear about. I do try to relate the messages movies like this give with my life. Who said only Aristotle is capable of that?
      r/iamverysmart smh

    • @awakenow7147
      @awakenow7147 Před 4 lety +5

      @pyropulse Chill out bro. haha

    • @lsrpjune3500
      @lsrpjune3500 Před 4 lety +5

      pyropulse you weird bro relax lmao. You know what people have serious inferior complexity issue? People like you who take there time out they day to say some weird shit and come at somebody else when they did nothing to you. You’re not intellectual at all. You’re ignorant.

  • @dkelly26666
    @dkelly26666 Před 4 lety +119

    I saw "The Irishman" for the sixth time, today. I've seen "GoodFellas" many dozens of times. Both are masterpieces.

    • @frank.medgyesi
      @frank.medgyesi Před 4 lety +6

      It's Scorsese. Can't go wrong.

    • @wyattnyfeler7270
      @wyattnyfeler7270 Před 4 lety +4

      dkelly26666 damn have you been watching for 24 hours

    • @dkelly26666
      @dkelly26666 Před 4 lety +3

      @@wyattnyfeler7270 No, I saw "GoodFellas" when it was brand new, and have had 30 years to see it many times.

  • @tonysoro9928
    @tonysoro9928 Před 4 lety +267

    Goodfellas:
    "What do you do?"
    "What?"
    "What do you do?"
    "I'm in construction"
    "I don't feel like you're in construction"
    "Well, I'm a union delegate"
    The Irishman:
    "I heard you paint houses"
    "I do my own carpentry work too"
    Two great films. Well done Scorsese (and everyone else who helped)

  • @rootsmcduck4339
    @rootsmcduck4339 Před 4 lety +84

    The wolf of wall street is also extremely reminiscent of goodfellas, especially where the fbi storm the offices while Leo tells story over footage

    • @b.a.p.2731
      @b.a.p.2731 Před 4 lety +2

      Totally agree, partially why I love WOW so much. Its like the Wall street version of Goodfellas. Less murder, more drugs. Still shot/presented in his fast-paced, quickcut style that drew to him in the first place. Irishman was good but to me, missing the fast cuts, zoom-ins, etc. The look wasn't exactly what I was hoping for but still good.I say, if you want a Scorsese movie with Irish in the mob, watch The Departed. Amazing film.

    • @dawsondjodvorj2408
      @dawsondjodvorj2408 Před 4 lety +1

      @@b.a.p.2731 The Departed is good, but i'd say The Irishman is much better.

  • @samuelcraig4209
    @samuelcraig4209 Před 4 lety +91

    It feels like the conclusion to a trilogy, starting with Goodfellas, introducing these themes and ideas about violence and excess with a fresh young perspective. To be continued with casino, which expands the same themes much like a sequel would do, introducing hints of doubt that it may not be worth it all, showing a slightly more matured take. The Irishman feels like a conclusion, continuing with the same themes and drawing lots of visual parallels to both, this time from the perspective of an older man. It feels like a natural and perfect trilogy.

    • @tareklegrand7747
      @tareklegrand7747 Před 4 lety

      trilogy ? what about mean streets damnt it !

    • @dawsondjodvorj2408
      @dawsondjodvorj2408 Před 4 lety

      @@tareklegrand7747 Mean streets wasnt really a gangster movie. It was about small time street conmen.

    • @rohanmallik7168
      @rohanmallik7168 Před 4 lety

      @@dawsondjodvorj2408 should add the departed though

  • @boomiepinagpala6290
    @boomiepinagpala6290 Před 4 lety +199

    The sadest relization in this movie is we had the feeling of this is Scorsese's retirement film

    • @mitchm0
      @mitchm0 Před 4 lety +51

      Except it isn’t. He’s already filming a new movie with Leonardo DiCaprio.

    • @EndOfSmallSanctuary97
      @EndOfSmallSanctuary97 Před 4 lety +16

      Nah, it won't be. Scorsese has still got all the brilliance and craft in him that he had decades ago, and never seems to be short of projects he wants to work on. Sidney Lumet, another great filmmaker that was in some ways the precursor of Scorsese, kept making films into his mid-80s.

    • @awakenow7147
      @awakenow7147 Před 4 lety +2

      @@mitchm0 The movie hes doing with DiCaprio is his last one right?

    • @BCS1105
      @BCS1105 Před 3 lety +8

      It certainly won’t be his last but it certainly felt a hell of a lot like it. The Irishman has a final sort of feeling, that’s probably way it sort of feels like his last. The only person in this film who I think that we won’t see anymore after this film is Joe Pesci, The Irishman will definitely be Pesci’s final film. But, in my eyes, it’s the absolute best way to go out, his performance is just magnificent!

    • @michaelyakob4824
      @michaelyakob4824 Před 3 lety +2

      Killers of the Flower moon

  • @copheart
    @copheart Před 4 lety +94

    I had to watch The Irishman twice to really get it. The first time I was distracted by the CGI that ended up being what everyone talked about afterwards. I took a day and went back in and that's when I got it. I saw how it was Marty's farewell to the genre. A genre he both helped create and perfect and now that he's towards the end of his journey he put a lot of that on the screen, as to say "If you mistook my previous work (Goodfellas) for glamour and excitement, take a look at the best case scenario to how the life ends up."

    • @ken-yo2hz
      @ken-yo2hz Před 4 lety +3

      What CGI lol

    • @copheart
      @copheart Před 4 lety +5

      Kakugen Do you live in a cave? The cgi to make Deneiro and company look younger.

    • @justaguy3825
      @justaguy3825 Před 4 lety +2

      Kakugen bro you’re dumb

  • @HangingGuitar
    @HangingGuitar Před 4 lety +47

    This is an absolutely wonderful video. Another link I found between Goodfellas and The Irishman is in the death dates; only a few characters die later than 1978-1980, showcasing how severe the generational shift in the mob was. Almost everybody from Frank's generation were killed to make space for the newcomers (Henry's generation) who focused moreso on selling drugs. This leads really well into the themes of both Goodfellas and The Irishman - Goodfellas is about that generational shift, and The Irishman is about the general shift of time, and the grim deaths of many gangsters.

    • @Trx-ep7rg
      @Trx-ep7rg Před 4 lety +5

      Actually Goodfellas was in Frank's generation of mobsters. Remember Henry Hill was caught around 1980 (plane chasing Henry's car scene). Frank was also imprisoned in 1980 after Hoffa's death. Everyone in Casino also got caught in the late 70s. And all those other mobsters also got killed/imprisoned in 1978-80 (in the Irishman). So I guess there was a law crackdown on the Mob around that time.

    • @COOLMCDEN
      @COOLMCDEN Před 4 lety

      Trx 1136 wasn’t it different in Florida though where the drug scheme took off in the 80s there or is that just the media?

    • @Trx-ep7rg
      @Trx-ep7rg Před 4 lety +2

      @@COOLMCDEN Yeah the 80's was full of cocaine (like Scarface) but that wasn't the Italian Mafia, it was just drug dealers

    • @HangingGuitar
      @HangingGuitar Před 4 lety

      @@Trx-ep7rg I think I misspoke in my eager to share the detail - I didn't necessarily mean "generation" as in a generation of age, but rather a generation of thought. Goodfellas focuses on this change in thought, from the old-timers like Paulie, making their businesses off protection money, to the newcomers selling drugs, like Henry. The death dates in The Irishman highlights how violent this change of business was, by showing how all the old-fashioned Italian mobsters were killed in around the time drugs were introduced.

    • @HangingGuitar
      @HangingGuitar Před 4 lety

      @@Trx-ep7rg And yes, as you mentioned, there was a crackdown from the police around that time. Mainly because of the drugs, that forced many to flip and bring down entire organisations to avoid jail time.

  • @Fidozo15
    @Fidozo15 Před 4 lety +19

    2:45 'I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers'

  • @flibber123
    @flibber123 Před 4 lety +112

    I think The Irishman is like Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven, it tells you the story of the character who is usually depicted in his prime but set when he was older and well past his prime. I don't think Scorsese removed the glamour so much as there is no glamour when you're still doing the same crimes in your 50s and 60s as you did when you were younger. In Goodfellas, Henry is married and has a girlfriend, which is played like he's having a good time in life. In The Irishman, Frank straight up leaves his family, not much glamour in that. Oh, and at the end Frank can't find redemption because he's a psycho and has no clue at the wrong he has done. This is why he has no regrets to express. He asks his daughter if there's anything he can do or say to fix things, lol, decades after it matters.

    • @flibber123
      @flibber123 Před 4 lety +5

      @pyropulse I'm sure I remember a scene in there where his voiceover says something like "There's never a good time to leave your wife..." and that's when he left.

    • @corbin347
      @corbin347 Před 4 lety

      flibber123 He just divorced that wife. He then remarried and stayed a family man, his second wife later died of natural causes a little after he got out of prison.

  • @thetriptrap622
    @thetriptrap622 Před 4 lety +115

    The violent scene are so different they are realistic and raw in the irishman like they did not really want to film them, but they needed to do it, but maybe it's just me

    • @ibnmianal-buna3176
      @ibnmianal-buna3176 Před 4 lety +19

      The Trip Trap I think the reason they portrayed the killing scenes in that way is that since they’re told from Frank Sheeran’s memory like the rest of the movie, his older self probably felt uncomfortable remembering the violence in his career and tried to downplay it even though we can clear see it for what it is.

    • @Raymando
      @Raymando Před 4 lety +7

      @@ibnmianal-buna3176 Na. It's actually that violence isn't how you see in movies. People don't gasp on the ground for their last breath. All it takes is a second to end a life and it's done. That was the point of those scenes.

    • @aptonymic3014
      @aptonymic3014 Před 4 lety +3

      It was so matter of fact becuase that's just how the mob deals with it

    • @thetriptrap622
      @thetriptrap622 Před 4 lety +3

      I was talking about difference from other Scorsese film, like Casinò, the violente scene of Pesci are more, pass this word, glorified they are exciting and I felt them (violent scene) differently in this film, I was not interested in a real life comparison but in this sense they were more realistic for sure

    • @1211riob
      @1211riob Před 4 lety +2

      I said the same. That scene in The Irishman at the Clam House was insane!! Even right before when Dinero explained the importance of choosing the right weapon was gold. People don’t even realize just how realistic it was

  • @fehzorz
    @fehzorz Před 4 lety +18

    When it came out, I thought "Wolf of Wall Street" was the spiritual successor to Goodfellas/Casino. The same type of film with Wall Street replacing the mafia.
    The Irishman has very little in common with Wolf of Wall Street except its director and length, but you can trace them both back to the same parents, and the contrasts are very interesting.

  • @Jonathonson
    @Jonathonson Před 4 lety +9

    When you put the two clips together of Henry going on that cocaine fueled errand with the scene where Rus and Frank are just driving over to the airport, it's jarring and kind of funny.

  • @olegtriers8882
    @olegtriers8882 Před 4 lety +61

    When The Wolf of Wall Street came out, people were talking about it being the 'final chapter' to Goodfellas-Casino story, and I hated that this could never be a trilogy.
    What a GIFT it is to receive the appropriate final chapter to Scorsese's epic gangster story

    • @absm2448
      @absm2448 Před 4 lety +2

      When did anyone say TWOWS was the final chapter to the Goodfellas-Casino story? They're not even thematically similar.

    • @travisgray7010
      @travisgray7010 Před 4 lety +1

      The trilogy is definitely Goodfellas, Casino and The Irishman great trilogy

    • @TheGeorgeD13
      @TheGeorgeD13 Před 4 lety +4

      To me, it's more of a quadrilogy with Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino, and The Irishman. Goes from the young pawns in Mean Streets to the Middle Men in Goodfellas to the Top Guys in Casino to the guys that made it all the way to old age. In a way, it's one long linear thematic story threaded through these 4 movies.

    • @jameschristenbury2625
      @jameschristenbury2625 Před 4 lety +1

      @@TheGeorgeD13 I'm so glad you mentioned Mean Streets as I was about to write that this story is a tetralogy.

    • @TheGeorgeD13
      @TheGeorgeD13 Před 4 lety +1

      @@jameschristenbury2625 What is it a tetralogy with those 4 films? The Departed?
      The Departed fits with the theme of all of those movies: Crime not only doesn't pay, it hurts. It hurts everything. It hurts society, it hurts its victims, it hurts the criminals themselves. Even if they don't die, they end up like Frank in The Irishman. Pathetic and haunted.

  • @fredericmoreau3722
    @fredericmoreau3722 Před 4 lety +29

    The irishman is an hommage from Martin Scorsese to all his own movies and actors and their lifes.
    Ciao from France

    • @Syndixal
      @Syndixal Před 3 lety +1

      Your country is destroyed from immigration.
      Slán from Ireland.

    • @Earhairy
      @Earhairy Před 3 lety

      @@Syndixal And ours was destroyed from emigration.

    • @Syndixal
      @Syndixal Před 3 lety +1

      @@Earhairy emigration and soon will immigration, lol

  • @MrRaboyto
    @MrRaboyto Před 4 lety +4

    The way this film dealt with regret, the things we miss out on in life when we're too involved with something else and the inevitable end of our lives really says something about where Scorsese's head is at right now. At some point we will all be at the end of our lives, sitting in a room alone with nothing to do but reflect on the choices we've made.
    Thank you Marty

  • @francel0198
    @francel0198 Před 4 lety +102

    Apparently almost every character in The irishman die by multiple shot in the face in a parking lot in 1980

    • @pts5217
      @pts5217 Před 4 lety +15

      Francel 01 Well, that allegedly how they died in real life. Scorcese has pointed out that mob life seems glamorous, but never ends well. You end up either brutally murdered or in jail...or both

    • @jimmynucklehead3070
      @jimmynucklehead3070 Před 2 lety

      People always say the 80s was a wild year

  • @ThekingEC7
    @ThekingEC7 Před 4 lety +8

    I've figured that the opening shot in "The Irishman" doesn't focus on anyone other than Frank because they are all "nobodies". Which is mentioned in Goodfella's.

  • @kylewarnke9665
    @kylewarnke9665 Před 4 lety +8

    Incredible video. Excellent analysis, editing, and narration. I used to love Tony Zhou's videos over at Every Frame a Painting, and your videos are at the same level of craft and insight. Well done.

  • @fuckingyellow4125
    @fuckingyellow4125 Před 4 lety +12

    Man, even in the beginning of Goodfellas, Henry alludes to Crazy Joe. And in the Irishman, you see what happened.
    Great movie.

  • @CM-xy7uk
    @CM-xy7uk Před 4 lety +1

    This was incredibly well put together. We can tell you did your homework, know what you’re talking about, and most importantly are truly passionate about it. We tip our hats to you please keep up the great content. You definitely earned my sub

  • @octoman511
    @octoman511 Před 4 lety +50

    the irishman feels like the final part of Scrosese's unofficial Deniro/Pesci italian mob trilogy that included goodfellas, and Casino. (Raging Bull doesn't count in my opinion because although it did have some mob elements it was for the most part a boxing movie)

    • @aptonymic3014
      @aptonymic3014 Před 4 lety

      Mean streets had mob elements?

    • @Monsieur_Lebofski
      @Monsieur_Lebofski Před 4 lety +1

      What about The Departed?

    • @CharlieTooHuman
      @CharlieTooHuman Před 4 lety +4

      Stealthy99 I always saw The Departed as more of a cop film featuring the Irish Mob, rather than a mob film itself, especially when you discover that Frank Costello is an FBI informant, the story all ties back into the world of law enforcement rather than the mob’s world.

    • @Monsieur_Lebofski
      @Monsieur_Lebofski Před 4 lety

      Charlie To0 Human Yeah I can’t disagree with that, but to me it always felt like a Scorsese “gangster movie”. In my mind I’d always compare it to the likes of Goodfellas or Casino, even though it undoubtedly depicts mob life in a completely different way.

    • @josecarranza7555
      @josecarranza7555 Před 3 lety

      Once Upon A Time In America and A Bronx Tale both Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci are in the gangster movies.

  • @CarolynDestruction
    @CarolynDestruction Před 4 lety +4

    3 hours of great storytelling and I loved it. Scorsese knows how to make a great storytelling movie and we here have huge respects for him. One of the best film directors always keeps it up.

  • @mutt8553
    @mutt8553 Před 2 lety

    Loved your Wire videos. Super excited to see this video in my feed. Excellent as always

  • @samsykes308
    @samsykes308 Před 4 lety +40

    Shudoot Shooby Doo, Shudoot Shooby Doo, Shudoot Shooby Doo

  • @isaacster5027
    @isaacster5027 Před 4 lety +4

    I immediately noticed how similar Hoffa and Tommy’s “disappearances” were

  • @cripplehawk
    @cripplehawk Před 4 lety +20

    Scorsese's Goodfellas is much like Kurosawa's Seven Samurais (A thrill ride but violent)
    Scorsese's The Irishmen = Kurosawa's Ran, I.E more reflective/meditative etc
    That's the way I see it

    • @Shadowman4710
      @Shadowman4710 Před 4 lety

      A very thoughtful insight. Thank you.

    • @jedsioco8482
      @jedsioco8482 Před 4 lety

      That is what I had said in my review on Letterboxd.

    • @dawsondjodvorj2408
      @dawsondjodvorj2408 Před 4 lety

      Man I really want to watch Kurosawa's cinema, but dont really understand how to begin.
      Any suggestions?

  • @travisgray7010
    @travisgray7010 Před 4 lety +14

    Love the Irishman film about life betrayal friendship death nostalgia and regret a man looking back at his life with painn regret Wondering where it went wrong love it... U feel like U lived his life and that song brings those memories back best film feel like U lived their life

  • @sammoody9142
    @sammoody9142 Před 4 lety +4

    Love a new Thomas Flight vid.

  • @Pandamasque
    @Pandamasque Před 4 lety +6

    4:46 That breakfast scene in the Irishman reminded me of a couple waking up next morning after a big fight. There's so much focus on the mundane, just to avoid seeing that elephant in the room.

  • @ForceMaximus84
    @ForceMaximus84 Před 4 lety +3

    So many of my friends and colleagues hated Irishman because it was so stylistically different from GoodFellas and Casino. I had to keep telling them that that was the point. Thanks for extrapolating on that point.

  • @MarcoMalfario
    @MarcoMalfario Před 4 lety

    in love with your observations here

  • @thebeats5086
    @thebeats5086 Před 4 lety +3

    Thematically, The Irishman does build on echoes of Goodfellas. In a literal and historic sense though, it builds on Casino. A central part of the plot of the Irishman is that it examines Hoffa’s links to the mafia because the mafia were able to obtain loans via Hoffa out of the Teamster’s pension fund as that was the only way they could access such large sums of money. The Irishman makes much of the link between the mafia and political figures like Kennedy because the Mob aspired to achieve what it wasn’t able to do in Cuba.
    The main theme of Casino is of course concerned with happens when wise guys get control of the casinos. The lament at the end of the film being that ‘it would be the last time guys like us ever get our hands on something like this’ after it all goes wrong. The Mob used the casinos as their money tree, “skimming money off the top”. Casino shows the fruits of what Hoffa created in the Irishman
    The Irishman, in this context, is the preface to Casino.

  • @DPReturns
    @DPReturns Před 4 lety

    Your videos are so good, keep it up

  • @DCFixxer
    @DCFixxer Před 4 lety

    Great Observation. Thank You!

  • @SP-cp3qu
    @SP-cp3qu Před 3 lety

    fantastic analysis!

  • @tillerman7272
    @tillerman7272 Před 4 lety +1

    at the very end of the film when de Niro is sitting in his seat in the old folks home I had a flash back to a young de Niro fighting on the pool table in the bar with a pool cue in mean streets and I got teary eyed

  • @josephdandrea8915
    @josephdandrea8915 Před 4 lety +14

    Absolutely incredible review, Thomas. The shakiness of the opening shot is something I noticed but never realized it’s symbolism. Love your channel, man.

  • @jamesebola1250
    @jamesebola1250 Před 4 lety +38

    I laughed at Joe Pesci's diagnoses of Deniro's truck trouble..."It's the timing chain", after he jiggled few spark plug wires. Next time talk to real mechanic for some ideas.

    • @drbrochette9346
      @drbrochette9346 Před 4 lety +3

      It’s a detail tho, not really important

    • @_Daniel_Plainview
      @_Daniel_Plainview Před 4 lety +1

      @@drbrochette9346 But it's part of the big picture

    • @drbrochette9346
      @drbrochette9346 Před 4 lety +1

      BengalinTiikeri But it’s nothing, won’t ruin a movie of make it less good. Not important.

    • @theodorvallik1
      @theodorvallik1 Před 4 lety +2

      @@drbrochette9346 Of all the things to skimp out on, in a production like this, it seems like this is a good choice. But the fact remains that any homegrown/professional mechanic are gonna call bull, and all it would have taken to fix it is a call to a mechanic: "Hey I'm working on this scene where my two main characters meet for the first time, and I wanna know if a timing chain could be a thing that would work here?".

    • @nicksmith3746
      @nicksmith3746 Před 4 lety

      @@drbrochette9346 Indefensible...

  • @powderedtoastfacekillah734

    The utter loneliness is what I remember about the Irishman
    Scorcese pounded us over the head with the loneliness, the emptiness of the end results of such a life. Sure he had the money for a beautiful casket, a stately place to rest his body after death...but the regret, the worries about his soul in the afterlife, the desire to speak to a daughter who wanted nothing to do with him
    I left the theater at 11:30 pm and all I could think about was loneliness
    Well done

  • @Sammy.Sosa.1
    @Sammy.Sosa.1 Před 3 lety

    Yup I’m subscribing, love your content

  • @alexandrealbertonfilho4214

    Great video!

  • @Adrieeennn
    @Adrieeennn Před 4 lety +6

    This was personally my favorite film for Marty

  • @johnrigs6540
    @johnrigs6540 Před 4 lety +1

    Brilliant video!
    Like many of Scorsese’s films,The Irishman didn’t win the major awards but its status will just increase over time....
    and one day will be appreciated as the true masterpiece it is.

  • @andrewavila5757
    @andrewavila5757 Před 4 lety

    Great video brotha

  • @dsandoval9396
    @dsandoval9396 Před 4 lety +7

    I absolutely LOVED Joe Pesci's performance in this movie!
    It's so different from his other more intense roles we're used to seeing him in, and the thing is that he does a supremely, fantastic, job portraying a soft-spoken shot caller.

  • @1seansouth
    @1seansouth Před 4 lety

    very interesting, thank you

  • @jacksonlar
    @jacksonlar Před 4 lety +15

    Uh huh......"similar scenes and techniques"....two guys from Philly who speak with Bronx accents, and a guy from Brazil, Indiana who speaks with a Bronx accent.

    • @ig8895
      @ig8895 Před 4 lety +1

      Amen. That bothered me. Hoffa had an upper Midwest accent similar to Chicago

  • @drewhunkins7192
    @drewhunkins7192 Před 4 lety +33

    "The Irishman" is a marvelous film. There is however, a big "however", and that is, if one doesn't have a grasp of organized crime history, or Cuban/Bay of Pigs gun-running history, or Hoffa disappearance theory, then one is probably going to be a bit lost in following the movie.

    • @CharlieTooHuman
      @CharlieTooHuman Před 4 lety +13

      Sure, but I think the movie does a pretty good job at informing the viewer about what exactly is going on.

    • @johnlopezjr.3830
      @johnlopezjr.3830 Před 4 lety +3

      This movie isnt for everyone

    • @drewhunkins7192
      @drewhunkins7192 Před 4 lety +4

      @@CharlieTooHuman I would disagree. For example, the pin on Bufalino's coat is alluded to w/o elaboration.

    • @UnitedFeodor
      @UnitedFeodor Před 4 lety +3

      I had no idea about who Hoffa is, myself being from Eastern Europe, and it was alright. The film does explain what it has to

    • @dawsondjodvorj2408
      @dawsondjodvorj2408 Před 4 lety

      I literally had no idea about who Hoffa was? Yet I believe The Irishman is masterpiece.
      The movie will be disliked or not very much appreciated if people go in expecting something like goodfellas, or usually people who dont really prefer slow movies.

  • @simpetcla12
    @simpetcla12 Před 2 lety

    Nice analysis. It’s really more his signature than a sequel I think.

  • @01DaveJr
    @01DaveJr Před 3 lety

    Love The Shootist on the marquee, Don Seigel's 1976 revisionist John Wayne movie w Lauren Bacall. Awesome.

  • @NOO8KILLAH
    @NOO8KILLAH Před 4 lety

    Really like these types of videos, your narration was awesome. Definitely gonna subscribe. Also will probs check out Mubi thanks

  • @spockboy
    @spockboy Před 4 lety

    Wonderful. Subscribed.

  • @theelvenqueen1
    @theelvenqueen1 Před 4 lety

    Sorry, this isn't related to the video, but I love that you used the theme from the Third Man at the end!

  • @mikulaszach2652
    @mikulaszach2652 Před 3 měsíci

    The Irishman was the first Scorsese film, that i saw. I came for a great gangster flick and left completely still, looking in the black screen.
    Seriously, the ending of the Irishman is hands down the best ending of a film, I've ever seen. Just the simple long static shot of old Frank completely alone, isolated with just some simple background noise, all of which cuts to black suddenly with a long pause, until we hear the beautiful 50s melancholic song In The Still Of The Night, which can be heard only in the opening shot and then right after Frank kills his friend. Just moves you, man.

  • @kathleenpapaleo8891
    @kathleenpapaleo8891 Před 4 lety +2

    It's a great film! Scorsese always nails it with the music!

  • @bzyboy9639
    @bzyboy9639 Před 4 lety

    thats the best opener for the movie and every goodfellas video

  • @danielseni2936
    @danielseni2936 Před 4 lety +1

    I think we have to pay attention to the message Scorsese wants to tell us. "You don't know hoy fast the time goes until you get here", you could be the most violent gangster, but time it's the perfect assassin and it will get you someday too. In The Irishman we see how Frank's friends die slowly one by one, and how he gets alone while aging... Time is the most ruthless killer, an no one can escape from it, you will be alone like Frank someday... And there is nothing you can even do to avoid it.

  • @dolevamitai1301
    @dolevamitai1301 Před 4 lety

    what are all the films playing at the end during the Mubi part? I recognized most of them but not all...

  • @LanceJ.
    @LanceJ. Před 2 lety

    Don’t forget the obvious link between the two films when Jimmy says to Batts, “There’s only one Irishman here.”

  • @riccardovalente3260
    @riccardovalente3260 Před 4 lety +8

    Not only. Scorsese in this film remember Mean Streets, trough the music's choises, and with symbolic and contradictory element of the curch.

  • @eduardopaz7661
    @eduardopaz7661 Před 4 lety +15

    Make a video about how Martin Scorsese's films deal with Catholic themes.

  • @sharanyopaul7358
    @sharanyopaul7358 Před 4 lety +32

    The Irishman is a modern masterpiece
    I have spoken.

    • @abuferasabdullah
      @abuferasabdullah Před 4 lety +1

      Sharanyo Paul it’s not

    • @Wolfe-zl4ld
      @Wolfe-zl4ld Před 4 lety +8

      @@abuferasabdullah It is

    • @quizmo1000
      @quizmo1000 Před 4 lety

      Abu Feras Abdullah it definitely is.

    • @EndOfSmallSanctuary97
      @EndOfSmallSanctuary97 Před 4 lety

      I disagree. It's a very good film, maybe even great, but not a masterpiece. Scorsese already has a few films that can be classified as masterpieces, but this isn't it. I'd say that even Silence is more deserving of the title of masterpiece, if we're looking at his recent work.

  • @bradmeeds1226
    @bradmeeds1226 Před 4 lety

    Leni Riefenstahl came up with the trekking shot from the 1935 great film triumph of the will

  • @Fakman87
    @Fakman87 Před 4 lety

    This is excellent work Thomas. Thanks!

  • @paolomayermarucci7994
    @paolomayermarucci7994 Před 4 lety

    I also would like to add two details presented in The Irishman that work as direct callbacks to Goodfellas. The first one being at the beginning of the film, where the house from which DeNiro and Pesci are walkin out is the same house of Lorraine Braco's character in Goodfellas. The second "easter egg" per say, is the inclusion of the Pretend You Don't See Her, a song that plays in one the most significant scenes of Goodfellas and it's brought to The Irishman as a instrumental version in the scene where (SPOILERS) DeNiro finally realises there's no way out alive for Jimmy Hoffa. A truly amazing moment!

  • @NorthSea0il
    @NorthSea0il Před 4 lety +5

    Probably my top film of 2019 🤔 Parasite was another fav of mine.

  • @samiritbanik1504
    @samiritbanik1504 Před 4 lety +2

    Trust me. Goodfellas and The Irishman have some hugely similar scenes. Specially that meat truck, that phone booth and various other things.

  • @grrkpp4382
    @grrkpp4382 Před 4 lety

    I saw it for the 1st time last night and I'm gonna need to see it again it was a little bit slow but I think it'll grow on me After watching it again.

  • @davidram9511
    @davidram9511 Před 4 lety

    This just makes goodfellas even better, if that’s possible, goodfellas is like an old friend that makes you laugh cry and never want in your life

  • @quint1715
    @quint1715 Před 2 lety

    I grew up with both my parents working in a restaurant/ owning it. I have too many fond memories and I also carry grief for a lot of bosses I met as a child. I remember running money for these guys during card games… Tony the Foot, Stevey Jewlery, Johnny The Hitman. Rest In Peace- the last of the men clinging to a dying enterprise.

  • @thekoseng
    @thekoseng Před 4 lety +6

    at 1:52 michael franzese, this guy is still around and talks about his days as a mobster. You should watch his interviews on youtube, he has some interesting stories to tell.

  • @williamswhistlepipes
    @williamswhistlepipes Před 4 lety

    A masterful piece of work..both movies. I chose us .....he certainly did...

  • @yoyoyickityyo
    @yoyoyickityyo Před 4 lety +1

    So great.
    Felt like a brilliant way for all those legend actors to get together with such an exceptional director and found a way to say Thank you and Goodbye..
    I smiled and fround watching it.. World class acting and dialogue enjoying the scenes but knowing its likely the last time.. An all-time great this will be.

    • @ksvba96-36
      @ksvba96-36 Před 4 lety

      maybe its the last time but these films will last forever for those of us who love them

  • @SmartDave60
    @SmartDave60 Před 3 lety

    00:03:53 I thought the title cards showed the passing of characters, as well as suggesting the passing of the Italian mob movie genre.

  • @Thathorrorguy12FU
    @Thathorrorguy12FU Před 3 měsíci

    The camera work is similar because this is Scorcese's style. If you watch his filmography you'll see this in a lot of his movies.

  • @satrialesporkstore7889

    Marty: If Bob was 30 years younger, I would have him snorting coke, driving around like nuts and chased by the helicopter too.

  • @da90sReAlvloc
    @da90sReAlvloc Před 5 měsíci +1

    The Irishman is a spiritual sequel to goodfellas

  • @ryanandrew-allen2887
    @ryanandrew-allen2887 Před 4 lety

    Many shots in Goodfellas harken back to Mean Streets.

  • @rippedtorn2310
    @rippedtorn2310 Před 4 lety +2

    Come on the opening scene itself basically spells out its a nod to Goodfellas .

  • @WiseAilbhean
    @WiseAilbhean Před 4 lety +4

    If I ever become a director (highly not-likely 😉) those Scorcese-Highjack-Your-Eyes- tracking shots will be in everything I do.
    The camera move so naturally as if you were there VR style.
    Scorcese does a great job with making you feel like you there.
    Like in Goodfellas, during the drug and paranoia phase, didn’t you feel like you were out of breath? And when that NARC (actor Bo Dietl, recognize him from Wolf of Wall Street and The Irishman?) it was a shock and stop to the heart and Jump into the Fire playing and Jim Gordon on the drums 🤯🤯🤯🤩 🔥 🔥

    • @maxfieldnuckels9075
      @maxfieldnuckels9075 Před 4 lety +1

      Too bad there aren’t any decent actors anymore to portray your story

    • @WiseAilbhean
      @WiseAilbhean Před 4 lety

      Maxfield Nuckels
      what you mean?

    • @maxfieldnuckels9075
      @maxfieldnuckels9075 Před 4 lety

      PumpkinEskobarr we’re all shit nowadays. Even if we can fill our predecessors shoes, we don’t deserve to. We’re in a transition, but it’s taking too long, so we’re confused

    • @WiseAilbhean
      @WiseAilbhean Před 4 lety

      @@maxfieldnuckels9075
      I notice there is an increasing trend on those hardcore method actors when they have to play crazy-deranged characters to secure that Oscar nom, referring to the male actors. All for an award that is based on opinion an no really unit of measurement. ugh.

  • @TecHDynamic
    @TecHDynamic Před 4 lety +1

    Anyone been able to point out that the plane in the Irishman has some sick Garmin GTN 750 Touchscreens?

  • @MC_1993
    @MC_1993 Před 4 lety

    I wouldn’t really connect the tracking shots like you did. They’re just tracking shots
    That being said, these are some of my favorite flicks

    • @CharlieTooHuman
      @CharlieTooHuman Před 4 lety

      I disagree, tracking shots are never just tracking shots, especially in context of Scorsese films. Marty is very deliberate about how and when he uses them. I think it was very clear that the purpose of the tracking shot in the opening scene was to distinguish the film from his other mob flicks (and even Wolf of Wall Street to a degree), which were often criticized for glamorizing criminal lifestyles. His tracking shots, especially when trying to convey the mob lifestyle, would often showcase the money, the glitz, the glamour, but in The Irishman’s opening scene he deliberately strips that all away to show us what it all leads to at the end of it all... If you’re lucky like Frank to survive that long without getting whacked that is. I think the video creator made a good case about this.

  • @OgGuak420
    @OgGuak420 Před 4 lety

    I got Jacky Brown vibes as well with both of these movies

  • @BCS1105
    @BCS1105 Před 4 lety

    Amazing video and analysis of the two films.

    • @GageReed
      @GageReed Před 4 lety +1

      Behind the Green Door!

  • @antimaterialismism
    @antimaterialismism Před 2 lety

    How did you pull video for the Irishman from Netflix?

  • @robertnelsonjr4648
    @robertnelsonjr4648 Před 4 lety

    I want to see this one

  • @sadeed22
    @sadeed22 Před 4 lety +2

    Okay. I agree with a few things about the opening tracking shot. But, there are a few things you are forgetting. The opening tracking shot is set in the perspective of Charles Brandt, the person who Frank is actually speaking to. Charles Brandt wrote the book 'I heard you paint houses' on which the film is based on and the book is a word by word transcript of the Interview Brandt had with Frank.

  • @timwindy7777
    @timwindy7777 Před 4 lety

    The Irishman definitely develops a lot of thematic elements from Scorsese’s previous mobster films-Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino-but, in my viewing, the arc of The Irishman felt more akin to The Age of Innocence. In both, a man very much a product of his time and place is forced to sacrifice his most significant relationship (Countess Olenska vs. Jimmy Hoffa) to preserve larger social orders (the family and the ruling class of early New York vs. the family, the union, and la cosa nostra). After several decades, when facing the opportunity to rectify their pasts and to redeem some aspect of their former selves (through rekindling the relationship in The Age of Innocence or confessing to the FBI in The Irishman), both Archer and Frank turn away again, seemingly in deference to the past, though ultimately their inaction aids in preserving the social order(s) that condemned them in the first place. I think this is one way of interpreting what Scorsese meant when he called The Age of Innocence his most violent film.

    • @KaizerBeatz-vf9wf
      @KaizerBeatz-vf9wf Před 4 lety +1

      I've not seen The Age of Innocence. I'm gonna see it now after your comment

  • @babansar
    @babansar Před 4 lety +1

    absolutely brilliant video essay

  • @skatemetrix
    @skatemetrix Před 2 lety

    I also think the Irishman borrows heavily from Once Upon A Time In America- Sergio Leone's take on gangsters and how he shows them for what they are, in particular all the scenes of old Noodles feels similar to the scenes of an old Frank Sheeran. Both man are stuck in the past and are a pathetic shell of themselves and are estranged from the ones they loved and cared about.

  • @AdrianMartinez-cz8pl
    @AdrianMartinez-cz8pl Před 4 lety +11

    I’m gonna go get the papers, get the papers