Hi, It is however quite interesting that you can get the same results by increasing the oxygen of the water at any point and not just inside the filter. Adam
Adam Julyan I assume that not all of the added oxygen will be used up by the fish and/or other chemical processes in the tank itself and some of it will reach the filter. Probably not as much as directly aerating the filter, but enough to make quite the difference in this case.
I know it made a surprising difference. It could have been a mixture of things that helped though such as the Sodium bicarbonate, the higher PH and the extra Oxygen. But thinking about it i imagine the oxygen made the most difference it would have been interesting if i had tested the oxygen levels before and after as well but i did not. Adam
Sadly, it isn't a small tank where you can casually introduce something. But I thought a Refugium, much like in salt water tanks would work. Basically take a foam, attach moss to let it grow on the Shaped foam that you shape in valleys elevations yada yada. It could maybe deal with the Nitrate/Ammonia and you just cut away the excess growth. Plus that Chodurys(?) or similar insects might have a region to Work through it all. Then again, maybe you can try introduce such set up to some part of the bottom of said quarantine tank? It shouldn't hinder water circulation or the bottom drain since it is growing on Foam. Plus, since iti s foam... I think the koi won't be able to chew away all of the Moss if it grows into the crevices of said foam. Then again, maybe it won't grow well due the lack of light. *Ponders* Ah well. It is just a thought.
Hi Adam , so my pond has been running a couple of months now and when i am testing for nitrite i am using the NT labs test kit and my test is always coming with a slight hint of pink . Its not at .25 probably at .10 is this causing harm to my fish . Ammonia is fine and Nitrate is at about 20 . Great videos btw i have learnt a lot from them .
Hi Gary, I would say aslong as its under 0.25mg/l for the nitrite i would not be to worried. 0.25mg/l is what i would consider the max for a mature pond's Nitrite level. i would say you Nitrate is getting to a level where you could expect a lot of blanket weed at some point although it takes a lot to be a problem for fish. Adam
Hi Adam, Out of curiosity, on your testing you're measuring No3-n and no2- Should it not always be measured for No3- and no2- respectively rather than the nitrite nitrogen, or nitrate nitrogen and so forth? Eg in your nitrate measurement, that was 30mg/l of nitrate nitrogen No3-n which in No3- is no3-n/0.22 which is 126ppm? Just curious what I should actually actively be testing for. Thanks, and sorry to resurrect such an old video!
hi Adam I don't know if you will see this but anyway I have ordered 50 3" to 4" koi I want to stock my outside pond with long fin koi so I bought a lot of babies to pick from. then going to sell of rest that I don't want. I have a 150 gal stock tank in my basement. I took a medium size storage bin drilled a bunch of holes in the bottom filled it up almost half way with K1 then put filter pads in many layers over that and have it hooked up to a mag drive 9.5 after watching your videos you do not recommend that I put a few liters of k1 from the pond filters as (seed) for my new filter. I understand what you were saying about fluks and bacteria but do you use any kind of starters for bacteria like filter bomb or the little green pearls that slowly release beneficial bacteria? I filled my tank up in the basement with water out of my pond and added a few large lily pads. any advice on keeping 50 plus koi happy in a 150 gallon tank.. Thank you Dale
I have just had my new koi pond professionally fiberglassed and finished by one of our excellent Marine grade fiberglasses. The problem I have is it seems very difficult to find out a lot of information on how to get rid of the styrene, so the pond is safe for my fish. The guy has said to start rinsing it as soon as it is dry as it needs a lot of rinsing which of course makes sense. Should I do it with just fresh water or any kind of specialist cleaner?But I do not want to have anything happen to my very logical way that I have had for a few years now love to know how you can test if your pond water is styrene safe? There must be some sort of test kit available that is not too expensive as I have spent a lot of money this pond right and I’m also having a professional to fix a special filter it . There is a lovely big glass window not just for me to see the fish but for my fish to look out onto the wildlife as they are very inquisitive. Any advice you can offer on me getting started with this new pond would be gratefully received as you are always my go to person for koi advice.
Found an accidental way to lower PH coke not what you drink the one you burn. Washed some and put it in my filter and my new pond PH dropped from 9.64 to 7.79 in a few days it can only be the coke.
I think (not an expert here) that the small amount of salt stimulates the fish to generate a thicker slime coat. This in term makes it more resilient against outside factors.
That is true. But it depends on what your issue is whether or not its a good thing or a bad thing as the slime actually traps parasites in and protects them from the chemical you might be using to treat for that parasite. Salt can also kill parasites but its such a hit and miss thing you have no idea what the results are going to be. Adam
my pond is 1,500 gallon, i was wondering how much salt and bi-carb i should add to my pond please, or does it not do any real damage, i've also heard that rainwater can turn pond water acidic and bi-carb is useful for countering it
Hi Adam Just watched your videos on new pond syndrome i am looking for some help you or someone may be able to advise me i have recently completed my pond it is 1000 gallon bottom drain filtered with a nexus eazy pod which is fed via a vortex it has been running now for about 4 1/2 weeks has 8 6in koi fed 3 times a day the water over the last two weeks has gone like cloudy lemonade i have tested the water with nt labs test kit amonia 0.2 , nitrite 0 - 0.25 , nitrate 0 - 0.25 , kh4, gh4 acid 8 am i doing anything wrong or should i be doing somthing different regards
Due to very slow Internet this response is two years late 🤔😂. Did/do you have a uv running year round changing the bulb each spring regardless of it lighting up.
you got uv light on? try switching it of. I had serious problems with my new pond to. found out that the bio uv killed of all the good bacteria. so turned it of. and the ph, nitrate ect dropped within days to normal.
only reason i'm asking is i'm having major nitrite problems atm, and it hasn't mattered one jot how much water i drop or change, my ph is spot on but my fish dont have any burns or anything which made me miss any symptoms, i am at my wits end now, i've lost 5 fish, so far, but problems are still ongoing....air stones are running constantly but fish still seem sluggish, any advice would be appreciated
- High PH to help nitrite abut 8.0. - High temperature will also make the effects of nitrite worse so maybe let it cool depending on your current temperature. - Nitrite suffocates fish so they will be sluggish. Is it a new pond and what filter do you have. - Water changes will not make a lot of difference but will have some short term positive effects if they are dying then I would say high % water changes every day for 5 days then a few days off to see if they get better. - Make sure no chlorine in the tap water as chlorine + Nitrate will mean no more koi. - I use PDV salt but I don’t think it will help you at this point because the level of salt you will need is too high if the fish are dying also water changes will just remove the salt. Maybe put some worse off fish in a separate tank of fresh water to allow them to recover slightly for a day or so (don’t leave them long enough to pollute that water as well) and make sure the water is same temp and similar PH. Hope that helps Adam
Hi Adam awesum video again I got a newish pond 6 to 8 weeks I have high ammonia I have 3 koi all of which I haven't fed for 1 week now I changed water 50% twice cleaned the bottom with Hoover and back washed Eco bead twice am running out of ideas can you help me to recommend something to bring ammonia down thanks Adam
As you can see from my part one and two of new pond syndrome i had a huge issue with ammonia. It is very difficult to manage ammonia at the early stage especially with water changes as a 50% water change won't actually make that much difference to ammonia level. The issue you have is that bead filter cleaning process is so harsh it will get rid of any bacteria that developed so try to do little and often cleans about every other day to keep the filter clean but not too clean. It is a good idea to use the hoover to keep the pond as clean as possible. It is really important to make sure your PH is low as the lower the PH the less effective the ammonia is. Something around 7.0 - 7.2 and you will be good for really high ammonia levels. If you are worried about the toxicity level of your water put your arm in the water for 1 min then remove and dry it off if your arm burns after a few mins then your koi will be having issues (The burning goes when you wash your arm)(and by burning i mean wow that's warm and your skin goes really red). Adam
Ok thanks mate gonna look into it might be issue with exiting waste water. I tried a ammonia treatment last week with no change what so ever also have been recommend oase biokick premium Gonna finish that and test again thanks for help gonna look into trickle fill 👍
Not really had much experience with it. I find it interesting but never seen it use with ornamental fish mostly just fish you could eat and done as a prepper setup that provides food. I like the idea but i have a hard enough time keeping the fish healthy worrying about plants as well might be a bit much for me. Do you use aquaponics? Adam
Thanks for the reply. Yes I have a few small setups. I had a 250 litre in my front room with chilies basil, parsley and lemon's. I never had nitrates in my tank water but I had 40ppm from my tap. I didn't do a water change for over 18months keeping over 100 tropical fish, added bonus of the room smelling of lemon blossom and basil.
Great video. Thank you for doing them. I'm learning more and more everyday. Thanks again.
Might be the extra oxygen from having the air on all the time increasing the efficiency of the aerobic bacteria. Interesting series, many thanks.
Not even "might" That's the reason trickle filters and showers are so effective.
Hi, Excellent point I did not think of that.
Adam
Hi, It is however quite interesting that you can get the same results by increasing the oxygen of the water at any point and not just inside the filter.
Adam
Adam Julyan
I assume that not all of the added oxygen will be used up by the fish and/or other chemical processes in the tank itself and some of it will reach the filter. Probably not as much as directly aerating the filter, but enough to make quite the difference in this case.
I know it made a surprising difference. It could have been a mixture of things that helped though such as the Sodium bicarbonate, the higher PH and the extra Oxygen. But thinking about it i imagine the oxygen made the most difference it would have been interesting if i had tested the oxygen levels before and after as well but i did not.
Adam
Awsome video mucker very informative.... 🐟👌👍
Sadly, it isn't a small tank where you can casually introduce something. But I thought a Refugium, much like in salt water tanks would work. Basically take a foam, attach moss to let it grow on the Shaped foam that you shape in valleys elevations yada yada. It could maybe deal with the Nitrate/Ammonia and you just cut away the excess growth.
Plus that Chodurys(?) or similar insects might have a region to Work through it all. Then again, maybe you can try introduce such set up to some part of the bottom of said quarantine tank? It shouldn't hinder water circulation or the bottom drain since it is growing on Foam. Plus, since iti s foam... I think the koi won't be able to chew away all of the Moss if it grows into the crevices of said foam.
Then again, maybe it won't grow well due the lack of light. *Ponders* Ah well. It is just a thought.
Hi Adam , so my pond has been running a couple of months now and when i am testing for nitrite i am using the NT labs test kit and my test is always coming with a slight hint of pink . Its not at .25 probably at .10 is this causing harm to my fish . Ammonia is fine and Nitrate is at about 20 . Great videos btw i have learnt a lot from them .
Hi Gary,
I would say aslong as its under 0.25mg/l for the nitrite i would not be to worried. 0.25mg/l is what i would consider the max for a mature pond's Nitrite level. i would say you Nitrate is getting to a level where you could expect a lot of blanket weed at some point although it takes a lot to be a problem for fish.
Adam
Cheers Adam thats put my mind at ease , more water changes then for the nitrate
Hi Adam,
Out of curiosity, on your testing you're measuring No3-n and no2-
Should it not always be measured for No3- and no2- respectively rather than the nitrite nitrogen, or nitrate nitrogen and so forth? Eg in your nitrate measurement, that was 30mg/l of nitrate nitrogen No3-n which in No3- is no3-n/0.22 which is 126ppm?
Just curious what I should actually actively be testing for.
Thanks, and sorry to resurrect such an old video!
top video as allways mate
hi Adam another great video
best wishes
kev from Wales
hi Adam I don't know if you will see this but anyway I have ordered 50 3" to 4" koi I want to stock my outside pond with long fin koi so I bought a lot of babies to pick from. then going to sell of rest that I don't want. I have a 150 gal stock tank in my basement. I took a medium size storage bin drilled a bunch of holes in the bottom filled it up almost half way with K1 then put filter pads in many layers over that and have it hooked up to a mag drive 9.5 after watching your videos you do not recommend that I put a few liters of k1 from the pond filters as (seed) for my new filter. I understand what you were saying about fluks and bacteria but do you use any kind of starters for bacteria like filter bomb or the little green pearls that slowly release beneficial bacteria? I filled my tank up in the basement with water out of my pond and added a few large lily pads. any advice on keeping 50 plus koi happy in a 150 gallon tank.. Thank you Dale
I have just had my new koi pond professionally fiberglassed and finished by one of our excellent Marine grade fiberglasses. The problem I have is it seems very difficult to find out a lot of information on how to get rid of the styrene, so the pond is safe for my fish. The guy has said to start rinsing it as soon as it is dry as it needs a lot of rinsing which of course makes sense. Should I do it with just fresh water or any kind of specialist cleaner?But I do not want to have anything happen to my very logical way that I have had for a few years now love to know how you can test if your pond water is styrene safe? There must be some sort of test kit available that is not too expensive as I have spent a lot of money this pond right and I’m also having a professional to fix a special filter it . There is a lovely big glass window not just for me to see the fish but for my fish to look out onto the wildlife as they are very inquisitive. Any advice you can offer on me getting started with this new pond would be gratefully received as you are always my go to person for koi advice.
Found an accidental way to lower PH coke not what you drink the one you burn. Washed some and put it in my filter and my new pond PH dropped from 9.64 to 7.79 in a few days it can only be the coke.
I think (not an expert here) that the small amount of salt stimulates the fish to generate a thicker slime coat. This in term makes it more resilient against outside factors.
That is true. But it depends on what your issue is whether or not its a good thing or a bad thing as the slime actually traps parasites in and protects them from the chemical you might be using to treat for that parasite. Salt can also kill parasites but its such a hit and miss thing you have no idea what the results are going to be.
Adam
my pond is 1,500 gallon, i was wondering how much salt and bi-carb i should add to my pond please, or does it not do any real damage, i've also heard that rainwater can turn pond water acidic and bi-carb is useful for countering it
Excellent info. and videos. That's also a nice tank. What are the dimensions ? Thanks, Respect
top video. keep them coming. 👏🖒
Thanks, Will do.
Adam
Hi Adam Just watched your videos on new pond syndrome i am looking for some help
you or someone may be able to advise me i have recently completed my pond it is 1000 gallon bottom drain filtered with a nexus eazy pod which is fed via a vortex it has been running now for about 4 1/2 weeks has 8 6in koi fed 3 times a day the water over the last two weeks has gone like cloudy lemonade i have tested the water with nt labs test kit amonia 0.2 , nitrite 0 - 0.25 , nitrate 0 - 0.25 , kh4, gh4 acid 8 am i doing anything wrong or should i be doing somthing different regards
Due to very slow Internet this response is two years late 🤔😂.
Did/do you have a uv running year round changing the bulb each spring regardless of it lighting up.
you got uv light on? try switching it of. I had serious problems with my new pond to. found out that the bio uv killed of all the good bacteria. so turned it of. and the ph, nitrate ect dropped within days to normal.
salt is eating there slime skin right ? with ammonia is bad ?
If ammonia and nitrite burns the skin of fish then salt would make it worse
Do you have a link on that tester you used?
You added salt and baking soda I could not understand
only reason i'm asking is i'm having major nitrite problems atm, and it hasn't mattered one jot how much water i drop or change, my ph is spot on but my fish dont have any burns or anything which made me miss any symptoms, i am at my wits end now, i've lost 5 fish, so far, but problems are still ongoing....air stones are running constantly but fish still seem sluggish, any advice would be appreciated
- High PH to help nitrite abut 8.0.
- High temperature will also make the effects of nitrite worse so maybe let it cool depending on your current temperature.
- Nitrite suffocates fish so they will be sluggish.
Is it a new pond and what filter do you have.
- Water changes will not make a lot of difference but will have some short term positive effects if they are dying then I would say high % water changes every day for 5 days then a few days off to see if they get better.
- Make sure no chlorine in the tap water as chlorine + Nitrate will mean no more koi.
- I use PDV salt but I don’t think it will help you at this point because the level of salt you will need is too high if the fish are dying also water changes will just remove the salt.
Maybe put some worse off fish in a separate tank of fresh water to allow them to recover slightly for a day or so (don’t leave them long enough to pollute that water as well) and make sure the water is same temp and similar PH.
Hope that helps
Adam
also does salt have any effect on filter bacteria
Hi Adam awesum video again I got a newish pond 6 to 8 weeks I have high ammonia I have 3 koi all of which I haven't fed for 1 week now I changed water 50% twice cleaned the bottom with Hoover and back washed Eco bead twice am running out of ideas can you help me to recommend something to bring ammonia down thanks Adam
As you can see from my part one and two of new pond syndrome i had a huge issue with ammonia. It is very difficult to manage ammonia at the early stage especially with water changes as a 50% water change won't actually make that much difference to ammonia level.
The issue you have is that bead filter cleaning process is so harsh it will get rid of any bacteria that developed so try to do little and often cleans about every other day to keep the filter clean but not too clean.
It is a good idea to use the hoover to keep the pond as clean as possible.
It is really important to make sure your PH is low as the lower the PH the less effective the ammonia is. Something around 7.0 - 7.2 and you will be good for really high ammonia levels.
If you are worried about the toxicity level of your water put your arm in the water for 1 min then remove and dry it off if your arm burns after a few mins then your koi will be having issues (The burning goes when you wash your arm)(and by burning i mean wow that's warm and your skin goes really red).
Adam
Adam Julyan
Thanks Adam for reply I'll try the arm tip tonight soon as get back from work thanks very much for taking time to reply regards tom
Ok thanks mate gonna look into it might be issue with exiting waste water. I tried a ammonia treatment last week with no change what so ever also have been recommend oase biokick premium Gonna finish that and test again thanks for help gonna look into trickle fill 👍
good job idol..
Carbon hardness = 5 ?
Should be above 7 to preferably 10 -12
Don't be ridiculous
Adam, how long does it take for your pond to reach that ammonia reading?
With no filter at all and that amount of fish the ammonia would be off the chart in just 3 hours its surprising how much ammonia a fish can produce
Please don't do that with the salt.!
Nice , temperature pls?
what kind of salt do you use Adam....just normal table salt ?
Any thought's on aquaponics?
Not really had much experience with it. I find it interesting but never seen it use with ornamental fish mostly just fish you could eat and done as a prepper setup that provides food. I like the idea but i have a hard enough time keeping the fish healthy worrying about plants as well might be a bit much for me.
Do you use aquaponics?
Adam
Thanks for the reply. Yes I have a few small setups. I had a 250 litre in my front room with chilies basil, parsley and lemon's. I never had nitrates in my tank water but I had 40ppm from my tap. I didn't do a water change for over 18months keeping over 100 tropical fish, added bonus of the room smelling of lemon blossom and basil.
That sounds interesting i might try something like that in the summer see what happens.
Adam
That’s what I like about ammonia??? What!