Pink Floyd, Vera - Amy’s First Listen and Reaction
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- čas přidán 20. 10. 2023
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Branching out from the inquiries of the previous songs (Is there anybody out there? Is anybody home?) the question is now expanded to the wider society, and the perceived abandonment by public figures, politicians, and governmental institutions, all the way back to, and receding ever farther into, the past, yet ever near and present in Pink’s psyche: The War.
Here’s the link to the original song by Pink Floyd:
• Vera
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I've never liked Vera. It was always a screechy filler song. But leave it to Amy to cut through that and really drive home the value of Vera through its meaning. That's what I love about this channel. Vera, as many of us know, is just about Pink's last plaintive crying out in desperation before his final crisis and resolution, and heard in that light it makes perfect sense to be where it is and sound as it does. I'm so glad she's picking up The Wall again. Plus, it gets us ever closer to... The Song.
Filler, really? There is no filler whatsoever in The Wall.
Vera is a beautiful piece IMO. Depressing. Always gave me the impression of someone who's on the verge of giving up on the world.
We are all waiting for the “song” 😂
@@RogueMonk3 Let's not forget, Amy listened to this very early in exploration of rock music. Initially she didn't like the sound of distorted guitar. I remember in ABITW Part 2, she harped on that it was a basic song with nothing interesting in it or something to that effect. And I'm like "Oh my GOD! Did you not hear that beautiful expressive guitar solo?!?!?!?" She hadn't yet gotten to the point where she even liked the tone of electric guitar. So I'm guessing when she gets to the song with the two amazing guitar solos which are very frequently mentioned as the best guitar solo of all time... I'm pretty sure she won't get it. If she listened to it today, I think she'd appreciate David Gilmour's solos much more.
"Filler?" Rubbish. It is absolutely integral to the whole concept of the album. You may not like the track, I'm not a fan myself, but it was essential to the whole storyline of Roger Waters' upbringing. "Filler" it definitely is not.
Vera Lynn sung "We'll meet again" which was probably the most popular song in the UK during World War 2. She would go to the recruitment events where she would sing and the soldiers would sign up and get a kiss with their King's shilling. "We'll meet again" was such a well known song even after the war that the Pink Floyd lyrics refer to and echo them to present a feeling of lost hope and broken promises.
Yeah I think you have to keep in mind the historical context of the story - an English man raised in the post-WWII era, calling back to a perhaps naively optimistic song which promised a happy reunions "some sunny day", but which for Pink never comes. That's the context that really sets off and explains the plaintive tone.
I also liked Stanley Kubrick's use of that, to conclude his great anti-war film "Dr. Strangelove".
Vera Lynn was born in 1917, but died just 3 years ago at the age of 103. She was very popular during and after the II World War and she sings the song that opens "The Wall" movie.
Thank you for one more The Wall review and I'm looking forward to watch the rest :)
this is an incredibly underrated track. i adore it. so damn emotional. cuts me to the core. my dad used to listen to Vera Lynn. We'll Meet Again, Don't No Where, Don't Know When. But We'll Meet Again Some Sunny Day.
This series is like waiting for Christmas morning! 😃
but it was supposed to be finished in june! we're closing in on a year now.
To discover that you are the little boy that Santa Claus forgot
@boretti1307 - solid reference!
Well you can keep waitin'. Christmas ain't comin' for another couple of years, apparently.
When waters says remember how she said that we would meet again the way he sings it. Stunning
Vera Lynn, the 'forces sweetheart' kept up morale, emotional support for separate hearts yearning for reunion. Spot on. I sang along with her once when she supported Hawkwind at a benefit gig at Crystal Palace bowl, she went on to become the oldest artist to have a number 1 album in the UK at the age of 92, thirty years after The Wall was released.
HAWKWIND?! What a pairing. Thats Lemmys band, yes?
@@BobbyGeneric145This was well after, about 1986, i do have a picture somewhere of Dave Brock with his hands around Vera's waist. 🤔
Yes Indeed, I was there...the anti Heroin benefit gig....Hawkwind, Spear of destiny. Doctor and the Medics, The Enid, The March Violets, Vera Lynn etc, and Lemmy came on as well (as he always seemed to do at any London Hawkwind gig) The big singalong at the end will never be beaten....The forces Sweetheart with Hawkwind and Lemmy with the rest of the above and more in a band aid/live aid singalong...totally surreal
band aid/live aid style...I think they all sang we'll meet again
I’m English and this song is, for me, as powerful as any. It’s like calling to mother.
I’m hoping for a 3 song weekend off The Wall.
Vera and Bring The Boys Back Home being so short.
Then comes THE song!!
we deserve it! this series was only going to take 6 months to complete,and now it's almost a year!
Comfortably Numb is looming on the horizon. I realise that it would break the MO she has used so far - but I would love to see Amy react to the live version from Pulse!
@@barrymiller3385 Whatever she does she absolutely _cannot_ pause in the middle of the solos!
@@Arkham1010 oh, why do you care so very much? I mean... I kinda get it, but I don't get the vehemence of it.
I can't wait for the masterpiece...
The chord progression always brings a single tear to my eyes.
Yes, there was definitely too much of the waiting!
Amy is deaf to comments that don't praise her.
@@79BlackRose I'm not sure we can go so far... But what's real is it's important to listen to the public, even if it must not become the "dictator", but "user experience" is important when you produce content for "the masses".
The strings are beautiful
Vera died in 2020 at the age of 103.
RIP Vera!
Yet another classic from The Wall. I love the nostalgia this song drips of.
"Vera" and the next song, "Bring The Boys Back Home" really are conjoined. They can be thought of as two movements or two segments of one idea. It's extremely difficult at times to "dissect" Pink Floyd albums because of the way they often eschew silences between songs or tracks. The Wall is particularly difficult because it's essentially a giant loop full of many songs that run together.
Roger, again, creating and delivering with something so genuine and emotion filled. A stunning moment on record.
Vera always has a special place in my heart. Still cuts through me, this tiny song...
This song always brought me to tears. It's just so raw and emotional. I never had any Idea who it was about. Thank you for enlightening me. It's even sadder now knowing the context.
Sound effects at the beginning of the song were from the movie The Battle of Britain movie from 1969. Vera Lynn was popular during "The Blitz" and was used to raise civilian war morale.
I think it was also a memory, real or i mn aginrd, of Pinks father being sho down in WW II
@@jimwilcox2964I don 't know about Pink, but Rogers father was killed in Anzio !
The smallest amount of research into who Vera Lynn was in the context of WWII Britain reveals the entirety of the meaning behind the song. "We'll meet again / Don't know where, don't know when / But I know we'll meet again some sunny day". Now, juxtapose that with "Daddy's flown across the ocean..." simple but effective, and very evocative: "They lied to us".
this is so reminiscent of Tommy
@@joewilson4151 Remember the movie 'Johnny Goes To War'?
Vera and Bring the Boys Back Home are essentially A and B of the same song. For Roger, "we'll meet again" and the boys coming home are the same - it won't happen for him and his father.
This whole of side 3 is stream of conscience. In his isolation, Pink's mind begins to wander. First it inventories what he has, presumably suggesting that this was all that was needed. But the TV in his head, a vestige of his younger days, begins to talk back to him. Tv shows like Another World, Gunsmoke, Gomer Pyle, USMC and the movie, The Battle Of Britain all begin to redirect his mind. The Battle Of Britain brings to mind the singer, Vera Lynn, who back during WWII, sang the song, "We'll meet Again". A song that came to represent the boys going off to war and to soon return "some sunny day". Remember back to side 2 with "Goodbye Blue Sky" where the sky got dark with German bombers over London. Of course Pink's father will not return in spite of his plea in the next song to bring the boys back home. The drumming in that song dissolving into the infamous knocking on the door and the refrain of a Floyd band member at Syd Barrett's door to retrieve him for a gig. But here the knocking is Pink's mind creating a "doctor" that is going to provide Pink's mind the opportunity to escape on the most bizarre and unforgiving journey that a mind can create then welcome to side 4.
I think you mean stream of consciousness
Vera"s song 'We'll meet again' is also played at the end of Kubrick's famous movie 'Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Love the Bomb' accompanying a series of cynically aesthetic nuclear explosions.
The beauty of the album (The Wall) is that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
The same can be said about these other three albums (Dark Side of the Moon), (Wish you Were Here) and (Animals).
And the same can be said about "The real Pink Floyd Band" (up to the final cut). That's how they reached the Space Time pantheon: together they did magic.
Ahh, good. I'm so glad you're finally back to this project -- and that it is still coming out here on CZcams. I was worried it might have been converted to Patreon-only, and I'm unfortunately unable to support more folks right now than I already am... but was very much hoping to hear your analysis of the rest of the album, including this. Glad it's just that it took a while, which is fine! Thank you, Amy! 💗
Glad to see you back with the album.
Stay tuned next year for the next track....
Yes,finally back to the masters of psychedelic rock and atmospheric music. Great reaction guys. So many memories when listening to these songs. It will never get old. The added bonus of your breakdowns along with watching you experience these songs is quite nice. Thanks Amy and Vlad!
Many thanks! Pink Floyd are such a interesting band.
I haven't heard that song in 23 years, I had completely forgotten about it.
Gosh, I have been yearning for this series to come back, and I am thrilled that is back again!
Just now I was on Patreon because of your Beatles reaction and now here because of Pink Floyd. You keep your fans moving.😄
Thank you Amy - I and a lot of others are grateful you have come back to this album. I'm sure we all appreciate how you only have a limited time and are sharing it amongst all the other music you've been reviewing!
Excelente Noticia, ya te esperábamos.
Vera Lynn. In the late 80's I was singing Vera, more to myself than anyone else, and my grandmother was visiting. She heard me and asked me where I heard that song. She explained to me, as she was a teenager during WWII, that she and her girlfriends would go to the Capital Theatre to dance and listen to music and of course that was one of the songs played by the band.
Ahh, my favourite Pink Floyd song. Possibly the best short short song ever.
I was hoping you'd get to this song. Thank you!
Always loved this track, even as a kid. It feels so full of emotion, and I always wished it was longer. But to me, that's part of it's message: you're yearning for that comfort, but you never get it.
i love listening to your views on these songs amy beautiful
I’ll admit to subscribing to the Patreon channel to get the last bit of the Wall reactions. Don’t worry, they are coming and they are glorious.
I realize that you’re busy with other things, but I’ve been waiting and waiting for the rest of The Wall. Please, please post the balance!! Cannot wait!!
Pink Floyd é pura genialidade!
Excellent! Knowledge is appreciated
This is a short song but is a pretty important part of how the war affected Pink in coping with his lot in life growing up.
you are one of the first people I have seen react to the wall that gets the story.
My favorite album of all time.
merci et vivement la suite :)!
Vera Lynn must have known about Pink Floyd and I wonder what she thought about them and this album that referenced her. Does anyone know if she was ever interviewed about The Wall?
Thank you!
Love your interesting take on Vera & the other songs on this brilliant Pink Floyd album. Vera was the archetypal 'Forces Sweetheart 'during WW2.
Beautiful
One of myTop 10 songs Period.🙏🏼
'There will be blue skies over the white cliffs of Dover.' was the chorus to the inspirational anthem by Vera Lynn. Dover being on the southern coast of England. The stark white cliffs being a symbolic reminder of England, Land, Country. And yes Amy makes me realize, the steep fall from the white cliffs are an impressive, impassive wall separately England from all that stays outside and swirls about her edges.
I'm not ready for this I was hoping you'd wait a few more months before releasing it
Lol
Once you have done with the wall, give a listen to "southampton Docks", from the follow-up album "The Final Cut". It makes the pair with Vera and should have been included in The Wall as well.
The songs, one at a time are different from listening to the album as a whole. If one is used to listening to the album, isolated songs are different at least for me. Thank you Amy for your listen/take.
Thanks
Stanley Kubrick put We'll meet Again at the end of Dr Starangelove, or How I come to love the Bomb.
Perfect
My Dad played that song we'll meet again at the end of almost every gig he performed at ....he played Stand up Bass and sung we also ended the cd he recorded with that song he was drafted but one of his sweethearts called him to warn him his induction for hos physical had come in the mail so if he wanted to sign up for a different branch of the military here was his chance so he went to the recrutment center for the Air Force and he was stationed in Casa Blanca in North Africa him and his airmen put a band together called The Velvetones and Charlie Rich was the keyboardist he ...Charlie that is went onto Sun Records where Rock and Rollvgot Catapulted into something huge with Sam Phillips at the Helm and Johnny Cash and Jerry Lee Lewis and of course Elvis anyhow all of those artists went on to bigger labels but Charlie stayed on and recorded Lonely Weekends which did suprisingly well but then Sam shut the doors on Sun records but charlie went onto make two number one hits doing country which crossed over to popular radio with Behind Closed Doors and The Most Beautiful Girl in the World
Thanks for reading in about this. The meaning is lost to many ❤
I've much been enjoying your videos of Pink Floyd.
Great insight, but if I might suggest.
To understand the origins of the painful background connection in this song and behind the wall,
Have a listen to The Final Cut by Pink Floyd.
It is actually a tribute by Roger Waters to his Father.
Kudos on your videos!
There's a great modern version made during the Quarantine. Vera and Bring The Boys Back Home is a two part medley. It was recorded by Waters in his own studio.
Amy ive noticed on one of your songs you heard that you like horns in a song. Try Peter Skellern- You're a lady. This song gives you an northern English style brass sound.
Or try Chicago- If you leave me now, for the brass accompniment and soaring strings.
Keep up the good work Amy 👍
P.S. try some Radiohead, they cover most styles of music.
How to disappear completly is a song with beautiful strings, they are one of the most influential bands of all time also.
Cheers
Nobody home, nor Vera, neither the boys.
Following "Is there anybody out there,?", these are songs about solitude/absence.
One of Very Lynn's biggest hits and most beloved WWII-era songs is called "We'll Meet Again."
Zero waste of energy. I've come to believe this was Pink's last resort at trying to find someone, anyone other than himself to blame for his own actions of building the wall. Peace/JT
Anyone see Roger perform The Wall live in person?
The visuals from the video, especially the young girl seeing her dad is still with me! You???
To me, the song always represented a sense of loss. Whether that be a person, place and time, or the loss of who we once were.
I remember how she said we would meet again
Some sunny day...
And something about Heinkels over the white cliffs of Dover?
in fact (my opinion) he is singing for his father.!! Roger father was one of those who died in combat. David had a mother with a mental disorder, Roger and David formed a perfect melancholic mix, as we can see in "MOTHER" for example.
“Does anybody else in here feel the way I do?”
I do
I've always quite liked Vera, yes it is short, and may appear filler, but I have always felt a bit of a connection to it, and find it evocative, obviously it doesn't sit on its own.
As for "Vera" simply being a singer, while I understand what you mean, but "Pink" was a singer as well, so there may have been a greater connection there than may be at first glance.
As "Bring the Boys Back Home" is also short, and do very much link, it probably would have been better to do them together, but you weren't to know that.
Its being short is also purposeful. I'm sure the length is exactly measured.
It's actually a segue to the next track Bring The Boys Back Home. I think the two should've been listened together
Vera Lynn herself died within the last couple years.
I would say the voice says most of it The feeling of pain, anguish and anger at a song full of broken promises. The music progression follows it though, with that resolution on an ominous note. The memory of that song is not one of happiness, but one of betrayal. His dad did not come home.
he is most definitely still behind the wall
Can't wait for you to get to "the trial."
Amy get's it.
The definition of Vera in Latin is "truth", which added to the Vera Lynn name (In Rome , Veritas was the Goddess of truth) leads me to believe that he was actually asking what happened to "truth",
Have you watched Tar already? I am not sure if you are into movies, but I would totally watch it, I think your takes would be more elocuent and thought provoking than others
see its a 'show' album
There's a pain in this voice
Rest in Peace Vera Lynn, forces sweatheart.
Love one on one with the song not shore if you'll look into th moody Blues Night in white Satin (long version) ,Tuesday afternoon (long version) and Questions also Phil Collins In the ait tonight(extended version) thank you if not I tried
For a bit of context, this is the particular Vera Lynn song Waters is referencing:
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Thanks for that link. I kinda got chills hearing that song and style in which she sang it and thinking about how it related to The Wall. Pretty powerful.
We'll Meet Again - Vera Lynn, though I prefer Benny Goodmans Version of the song. A nice Swingy tune. I recommend a listen.
Hi Amy. I'm not sure how far ahead you are in doing reaction videos vs what you've published here on YT, but you only have one song to do until you get to Comfortably Numb. Comfortably Numb is (in my opinion) Pink Floyd's best song and perhaps one of the best rock songs of all time, certainly in the top five.
Please, for your benefit and enjoyment, do _not_ stop to analyze the guitar solos as they are playing the first time you listen to it. Just let the solos play through and experience one of the most beautiful segment of music from start to finish uninterrupted. You'll thank me for it later.
Rather than saying "Good Bye" to friends, I like to sometimes say, "Some sunny day". Give it a try sometime.
have you done Tommy by the Who? because you should.
And I thought I knew Pink Floyd.
"It's short." 😆
It's kind of sad she's never heard of Vera Lynn...
Wait it looks like I missed a few Wall reaction videos. CZcams recommendations dropping the ball lol
Vera is short, but poignantly sad and haunting. I have a hard time listening to it because of that.
When o when are you going to revisit Genesis?!?!
I cannot believe she didn't know who Dame Vera Lynn was
She is American, so ... not surprisingly !
Lol.... for years I thought this song and the next, was completely out of place on the album..... then I found out who Vera Lynne was
There's a brief squeak of feedback at one point. No instrument is doing anything at that time, what would result in it naturally. It was created to be inserted at just the right time, to provide a rhythmic counter and just a touch of tone at a moment that needed it. Feedback coming from a bunch of acoustic instruments. Interesting.
TOOL is Pink Floyd for the new millennium.
🤘🧙♂🤘
Rich the Ancient Metal Beast
The squeaking brake you hear is shown in The Wall movie to be from the train that takes them to the concentration camps, it’s truly haunting! Roger Waters once said that Vera is his favorite song from this album 👍
Thanks for the clarification. I've seen The Wall movie many times but always in altered states. I had always assumed the squeaking was microphone feedback. The squeak is an intrical part of the song for me.
@@ronaldnoble9694 I’m not sure if it was a real brake or something else
I thought it was soldiers to war
You just listened to the intro to a song