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- What is Windows 11 Actually collecting? In this video I investigate what data microsoft sends home on your day to day usage.
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What a waste of bandwidth
I mean the packets probably aren't huge. I'd be more concerned about the principle of data collection than the bandwidth it uses.
@@matthewrease2376 I think the comment was about the video.. it is Rather lacking content and advertises a paid tool.
paid??@@5Hydroxytryptophan
@@5Hydroxytryptophan O&O Shutup is free
@@xXRealXx Okay, good to know. I'm not using Windows anymore. But still, the video has really little information.. the telemetry is not immediate, so he should have invested more time into research.
With computers getting more powerful, the OS's on them seem to be running slower. Such a weird coincidence.
Linux is significantly better in that regard. Even on the more heavyweight distros.
I'm going to echo @Doomsdayparade that I've noticed Microsoft Windows has quite a few design decisions that make it run poorly. The stuffing ads, recommendations, ai, and a whole bunch of other features while the Microsoft kernel already isn't good at handing starting and stopping processes quickly is my guess as to why. I think the Microsoft kernel is an unwieldy Frankenstein of engineering make up decisions that the technical debt of the kernel is probably insurmountable.
I don't work at Microsoft, so I I'm only positing my guess based off being IT support.
@@kevinrineer5356It's to be expected when Microsoft keeps building upon a system that never had a good foundation in the first place, while trying to keep everything from 25+ years ago compatible with today's systems.
Windows 11, still compatible with Windows 3 applications[Windows 3, still compatible with QDOS applications!]. This is what we like to call the "tower of bubble gum and popsicle sticks"
By OS you mean Windows, Linux these days is so easy I don’t know why more people haven’t moved to it.
Doing anything locally on your system shouldn't require an internet connection.
But having search suggestions shown is not “doing something locally” now is it? And frankly opening a program these days also isn’t most of them fire off at least one update check request or just a data request to get your login state, avatar etc.
@@EraYaNThe people complaining about telemetry are not the people who want internet search in their task bar. Kinda irrelevant
Well it doesn't "require" a connection, never did, but it will use one if it's available.
@@EraYaN If I type something in the search bar, I want it to search my computer. If I type something in a search engine in my browser, I want it to search the internet. Simple as that.
@@user-in2cs1vp6ointernet searcg is fine on a taskbar.
AMD, Intel: "IPC has increased!"
Microsoft: "Good, let's waste that IPC with telemetry and tell users they need to upgrade their hardware so they don't notice."
It’s really quite beautiful isn’t it? The decades and trillions of dollars in hardware research just being thrown away to give you utter garbage.
@@macicoinc9363Not thrown away at all.
It gets daddy Microsoft more money.
They love it.
All in the name of Privacy, Security and Safety!
I am sure Intel and amd don't mind
@@deathhog achieving valued goals and desired outcomes is more valuable than any amount of profit ever could be
There should be zero collection, your tolerance is the problem.
Problem is that most software do this stuff already, even the beloved Firefox, so I can get why he has some tolerance 😢
depends on the perspective. im against how microsoft is handling the data, not that they collect data. users usually dont do proper bug reports, so telemetry for this case as an example would be beneficial.
@@TVPInterpolation funny enough, a gamedev on reddit said that despite being only 13% of the playerbase, Linux users were responsible for 60% of bug reports on his game and would go till the end to help out
@@Max15691 but that's not really an excuse, is it. First of all, non-optional telemetry is ILLEGAL. Just plain up not allowed under EU law, and they do that shit anyway. Second, even open source software that has telemetry will by necessity be more transparent about it, and more open to allowing the user to disable it, which already improves the situation.
@@Carlos-kh5qu this is nothing more than a reference to a racist joke. that 'gamedev' aint telling the truth
Every breath you take
And every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
it'll be watching you
every file you make, every registry item you break
every search you make, every feature you break
We get robbed twice. We pay a bucket load of money for a OS and then we get our data stolen.
This is the Economy 4.0 according to its inventor Klaus Schwab (also founder of the WEF): Everything is turned into a service. A purchase does not longer constitute property, but is in fact a license to use a particular good for a limited amount of time and in accordance with the marketing concepts of the supplier. Therefore, you own nothing. Not even your data, your time and your attention. But you will be happy. Welcome in the really existing neofeudalism!
who tf pays for windows?
@@Tantakugames my company.
I don't pay a cent and I block 95% of the telemetry (the 5% is required for some core stuff to function).
I'd have dropped Windows for Linux if didn't use my PC primarily for gaming.
@@steel5897 if I get a inspection you know what happens.
I expect the camera on my Windows laptop to follow what I look at and lower my social credit score appropriately
That's sure to be the case in China!
If the cameras on the majority of Windows notebooks weren't dogshit, that may actually be a threat lol.
@@Lord-Sméagolthat is already a thing in america. Many jobs require you to be tracked like that.
@@Lord-Sméagol dude stop deflecting all of this on China this is about America
@@Cybercerialdestroyerum last time I checked China legitimately has a social credit score program and the US does not
The fact that it sends something to their servers while I am _not_ doing anything that would require access to a server somewhere not on my premises is enough for me!
Literally requests for windows update or apps install and update related. It's not new ms collect a lot of data but you can disable it and it won't anymore. Telemetry is good when it is clearly stated what it does and what data it collects, with the possibility to disable it. For example for an application crash report it's very useful to the developers because most of the time a user won't send it manually
App updates.
@@gabriel55itathats not really true Microsoft has been caught collecting telemetry with settings disabled
@@linuxramblingproductions8554 for legal purposes it's not something sensitive obviously, you know that would cause them a huge problem. It's probably something more bland like crash log/defender asking the server if it knows a suspicious file for example
The future turned out not only malicious, but kind of braindead too. The sheer waste, the sloppiness in obfuscation, the passivity of the general population.
Unwashed masses accepting malovent rulers to guide them through age. Classic
@@mekelopte7071 You smite the people, and not the oppressor? It sounds like you are no different than then those responsible for this mess.
Dumb people being dumb and evil corporations being evil are not mutually exclusive things
@@macicoinc9363 How can single man rule over so many people sounds like all of them are NPCs and deserve it. Nom im sayin
Brazil, the movie
It doesn't matter what information Windows is publishing. What matters is, that it does without us wanting to and without us having another choice than not even using a PC anymore - unless we are using Linux.
also the slowdown of your system while it's collecting this data ...that's the part I most dislike !
"Ignoring the alternatives, there are no alternatives!"
Or BSD :)
@@nolram"damn linux is becoming too popular, time to switch to bsd"
@@whoman0385 nah I just like BSD :)
I permanently switched to Linux over four years ago. My only regret is that I didn't do it much earlier.
What distro?
@@Holahelloholahello Linux Mint.
I did the same thing as soon as Windows 10 came out. I used Manjaro for a long time. Now I am on both original Debian KDE on one computer and the other on EndeavourOS KDE.
I had to change that purple blob though. To a normal background and look. 😋👍
@@TwstedTV Debian KDE, too. It's simply better. 👍
Same here, did it a year ago, wanted to like three years ago
As a personal user you at least have a choice. Imagine large companies in sensitive areas like medicine, which are basically forced to use windows to maintain compatibility.
Most of the computers used in those situations use either:
Pro/enterprise windows where you can disable nearly all telemetry
Linux, BSD, or some other open source Unix-like system.
A _really_ old version of windows (I've seen some stores use windows 98 for their POS)
The thing with the XML messages not showing up correctly is because Windows still uses UTF-16 for some godforsaken reason.
"CoMpAtIbIlITy!!!!11!1!"
And they passed that fucking idiotic behaviour onto UEFI which makes it a pain to deal with
@@SFSAtlas i did not know that.
Win11 literly forced me to exchange the perfect standard email app i had for outlook and now there is adds in my mail program disquised as regular mails. I mean are they for real? I seriously need to concider using linux.
definitely worth to do so
100% recommend. I have been using Linux for the past six years.
A temporary solution is Thunderbird, have been using it for a while now and it works well.
Linux makes me want to carve my brain out
If you are serious about switching. Get an easy-to-use distro on a thumb drive and try running it for a bit. My favourite is Mint, and my kid is using Nobara as his daily driver.
No kind or amount of collection is acceptable. Every time I see something about Windows, I'm glad I switched to Linux.
It's been a load off my mind, too. No system is perfect, but I can easily choose my battles and who to trust on Linux. Microsoft left me no choice.
i would totally agree if user would be easier to deal with when it comes to bug reports. for such cases, i think its totally fair to collect data.
@@TVPInterpolation That should be solely the user's choice. No corporation has any business making that decision for me.
@@gregcampwriter i see what you mean, but this is only properly possible in a perfect world where everybody reports bugs in proper fashion. do we want buggy software? no. do we want bugs fixed fast? yes. then its just a necessity in many situations.
im not happy in how microsoft handles the collection of data, but can atleast see a few reasons aside from ad businesses in general.
@@TVPInterpolation don't be a shill, there are better and more straightforward ways to report bugs
The real problem was that all these data are binded with your Microsoft account, which is being forced on, no local account allowed. Every pieces of data can be used to profile an user all together. They know your name, location, when to use what software and device with what behavior.
The OS SHOULD NOT transmit anything encrypted to any server when running a local app without a need of internet, if it's encoded with some string that you don't know the actual meaning, you don't actually know what they transmitted.
And, all these should be DEFUALT OFF, and ask if users are willing to share the record of their behavior to "help improving the development". The enrollment should not be default on.
Even you thought some should be turned off, and yet, they're default on.
There are still ways to enable local accounts only - which I agree are hoops that shouldn't be forced to jump through - but at the same time it's a beast of two heads.
I'd say that 90% of users got an upgrade to Windows 11 for free - free software isn't free. You're going to pay with data. Apple has collected the same data for decades across their entire ecosystem and no one throws a fit about it the same way they do with Microsoft.
At the end of the day, if you really don't want to send data, pony up the extra $50 and upgrade your Windows version and run a local account from the start.
@@WeinerTouchy
1. If the local user needs a workaround, then 90% of the user will be milked, workaround exist doesn't meant it's not a problem. And, even if you activate local user, it only solve half of the problem.
2. If you pay for a new license, you won't get a different windows, they're the same. I just set a media machine for elder relatives last year, I bought an official license for them, and it's the same. You paid and you still get milked.
3. At the end of the day, I really don't want to send data at this level, so I migrated to Debian, FYI.
Microsoft can do whatever they want, and you can accept it if you like to, it's not my problem anymore.
@@te-wei No one said anything about buying a new license. Buy the Pro edition. Solves all your issues. Local user and fully able to disable telemetry.
Otherwise, enjoy your free upgrade and send data. Really no further discussion to be had.
@@WeinerTouchyApple does collect data but its no where near windows bull shit levels. Last I check key loggers were not included on Macs but Windows have them since 10. Make a video proving it just as bad then I will shut up, but I used Apples before and I never had shit like this shoved down my throat like I have endured when I switched to Windows xp, Windows 8 and breifly 10 on a hp stream lol.
I stopped using Windows because they flat out said Windows is a services. 8 was already forcing Windows account down my throat which is funny. Every new version, Microsoft gotta force some new thing. I used Mac classic all the way to 10 and no, I never had shit like this forced on me.
Linux was totally freedom until Ubuntu Amazon deal. I swicthed to a Ubuntu Mate because I liked the interface better at the time. However the Mac os 11 Might require an account for certain featured similar to Windows but if they did, its to make the walled garden work better(Not sure if they actiually do) not just to force something with absolute no benfit to the user unlike Windows.
I quit using those systems as my primary a long time ago. All I can say is if you have no interest in the mac eco system then their no point to it but Micrsoft does not even offer an ecosystem at all so it only befits Microsoft to be fair. The only thing I like about Apple is their computers but planned Obsolences is the one thing I hate about Macs.
The majority of applications and systems have telemetry default enabled and ask at initial startup if you want it or not, macOS same thing (it asks for a lot of shit that is enabled by default so you need to disable it on the setup page, just like windows)
9:36 _"I'm not personally worried about all this information"_
It's not just about the information, it's also about the fact theyre using your computers resources/cpu/memory/bandwidth, and also what theyre doing with the information they collect.
By 4:10 I'm like... dude, you're just opening paint. What in the absolute heck. This is crazy.
But I mean, who the hell cares whether or not Microsoft knows if you've opened Paint? Why should I care about this?
@@ferabon because them caring about something so hilariously trivial begs the question of what they have enough control to do when the stakes are higher.
For example on iOS it was discovered that they constantly read your clipboard with linkedin and sucked it up into the cloud, after which we have no idea what happened to it.
This is potentially outright dangerous. For example it may contain a password from my password manager, and then there’s political espionage.
This sort of trivial info can be used as secondary information, too. For example, a declaration of war can be predicated through a large amount of pizza deliveries to state offices in DC.
In this case it’s probably a signgature check, but I don’t like it. Apps I open on my device for local use should not be hopping onto the internet.
@@ferabon they don't need to know when i open up paint let me paint in peace please
@@ferabon Why should they know I'm opening paint?
Also people who got nothing to hide did get screwed over data collection before, don't think you're safe just because you're a saint.
@@ferabon because why would they want/need to know your every click? I mean, forget the fact this telemetry data is being used for profit in some way (like selling to advertisers, etc.) and the fact data can be mishandled or stolen. Even if they weren't doing anything besides collecting it - it's the principle
Think of it this way: You rent an apartment and there's cameras and microphones set up by the owner, which record everything 24/7/365 and send it to his personal PC. They're in every single room, even the bathroom and your bedroom. Would you really be okay with him having your whole life recorded on tape, even if you're not doing anything illegal or questionable?
That 404 for the tip retrieval is pretty hilarious. Reminds me of how after a few years, Windows Vista's link in the desktop context menu for 'Windows Gadgets' would lead you to a 404 page.
I call it "Winbloat"
based pfp
Let me guess, what do you use.... Mac os, right? XD
I use Win 7 btw...
@@Foga001thats an og os. The good ol days of win7.
@@dsobransingh ummmmm i use arch btw 🤑🤓
amazing pfp
This is insane. The sheer volume of information transmitted is insane. Just using and navigating the system shouldn't make a single call in my opinion.
You should activate differing of updates for the average user, because it differs security updates for a few days and feature updates for 1-2 years. this will make a windows system dramatically more stable over time as it's forcing your PC to not be a beta tester, plus it'll be less annoying since the end user will have to change their workflow less and won't have to reboot as often.
I personally want as much performance as possible and having useless telmetry hits all the time is wasting bandwidth and cpu cycles for something I don't want.
the chris titus toolbox does do a lot of debloating that oosu10 doesn't, it does use oosu for part of it's telemetry disabling, but it also sets a ton of services manual so there will be less CPU cyles to run and a smaller attack vector because there's less things running in the BG.
@@JessicaFEREM if you don't want telemetry, and an easy tool to manage this is WinTools, is simple with a good interface and it rember your choice even after an update from MS, so you don't have to disable telemetry all the time.
Plus everything is well written so is not hard to use or understand, and it can performe other task other then this.
at that point it's worth it to just switch to LTSC windows 10 and receive only security updates + years of extended support. no app updates either cause there is no app store included. run the christitus debloat script for good measure
Or have a registry hack that can defer Windows Updates to decades.
Switched to linux 6 years ago, never looked back.
I just cant believe with all the information coming out as well as being crippled with use and account creation there has not been any kind of class action lawsuit yet or at least the starting of one.
As a user and admin of Windows machines for a small company, I was really surprised when Windows 10 seemingly "backtracked" to users finding apps on the system by typing in the name. It seemed to be the opposite of the intentions of a GUI. I see the reason now. It's tracking and sending, silently in the background. Can I just get a security-patched Windows 2000 again please? Back when everything wasn't a damn keylogger.
That smug feeling you get when you fullscreen the video and there are no black bars.
Interesting video always good to see what goes on behind the scenes, makes it easier to figure out what to disable.
If you really gotta use windows, disable as much telemetry as possible, and use a dns sinkhole like pihole on the local network with a telemetry block list to block incoming and outgoing telemetry requests.
I don't want my OS spying on me, even if it's - allegedly - to send bug reports. I also want choice in the matter of what my OS is doing rather than having that choice taken away from me. These are big reasons why I use Linux.
If it was for bug reports, then Windows wouldn't be a steaming pile of fucking shit that never works properly.
what exactly linux? Most linux distros collect data just like windows does lmao
@@FloppaTheBased me when i spread misinformation on the internet
only Ubuntu does that
@@FloppaTheBasedbro hallucinating harder then chatGPT
That was an interesting watch, thanks! I found your channel from your single GPU passthrough video which was very useful. Do you still plan to do a video on kernel level anticheats? I think that'd be a good watch!
Yes I do! Would love to know if there's anything specific that you would find interesting.
Doing this level of analysis is tricky becuase I don't think vanguard uses HTTP to communicate.
@@EricParkerWhat about EFI based cheats? Those sound extremely interesting .
Cheat-related stuff would be cool
@@EricParkerYeah, it'd be hard to determine what kernel ACs are actually doing, you pretty much have to trust the privacy policies on that. I think an overview of the main ACs (such as whether they run at boot time etc), the associated risks (Genshin is a good case study) and any mitigation steps (dual booting if you daily Linux?) would make a good video.
Either way, keep up the good content, it's really engaging.
And this is why I refuse to use Winblows
Use NTLite with a good profile. And all what mainstream media says falls out the window. Nothing he mentions happens on my images. And I currently use 24H2 LTSC.
See windows XP+7?
Well I have the exact same user experience. Even UAC is neutered and standard users can never elevate no matter what they do.
How did you create this setup? Is their any resource I can refer to?
would you be able to do something like this with Tiny10/11?
Excuse me, at which point did the spying take place besides the completely normal search engine calls when you type in a search engine (and does anyone know whether that be turned off)?
that is unfortunate. i'd love few guides on setting up something as this. i can't express how valuable your youtube channel is to me.
That box isn't spying it just searches? Did I miss the point? I kinda skipped through
I think the biggest issues are that it's opt-out only and that a good chunk of this data collection cannot be toggled off by a normal user. You either have to dig through registry entries and hope you don't break the whole OS or rely on a 3rd party tool, which, of course, is all by design.
Does he mention how much of the telemetry can be diusabled and how much the minimum still collects?
Hmmm,did you see the actual pass 50% of the video? Because that is exactly what he do.
Does windows 10 do this too and did earlier versions of windows collect data? (8, 7, Vista, XP)
i'm not sure if windows 7 originally did it or to what extent, but i believe that in the final updates to windows 7, they made sure to enable levels of telemetry similar to that found in windows 10
@@shallex5744 I know 11 does it so I might just stay with 10 but the PC I have now is lacking a bunch. 230gb storage 3 usb ports 1 broken and no optical drive. My last PC had a lot more. I did however play a doom map with maybe 20,000 enemies and no lag.
Can you test this on a customized Win. To see if there is any one thats safe. I currently use a Win10 curomized using various tool. I tried with 11 once but disabled so many things I broke some of its functions hahaha. Went back to my own made Slim10.
Or maybe there are better tools to modify 11 since I tried.
does it send any data when you ctrl c ctrl v?
Did windows silently allow you to forge their SSL certificate? Makes tapping this data trivial if thats the case.
If you don't trust a command prompt window that you CAN see open when you run a cracked game, you shouldn't trust any of the silent shuffling of data that's going on in the background of Windows that you CAN'T see.
The NSA collects it. Windows just sends it.
@@tiaanbasson9092yeah and its also what Linux users don’t get. Why do you think those exact agents contribute and control the Kernel of Linux and the Linux foundation lol?
@@ghost-user559 show me that extent of telemetry in open source Linux kernel
@@ghost-user559 You are correct, but it is definitely to a far lesser extent. You'd have to be suffering from intellectual pride to believe that the Linux Kernel is not compromised in some way, whether Torvalds is aware of it or not.
@@tiaanbasson9092does that also apply if you are outside of the US and are not a citizen?
@@notyourfox “Disclosure of the nine-year-old vulnerability came the same week that Google researcher Kees Cook published research showing that the average lifetime of a Linux bug is five years.” “ *A ten years old Linux backdoor linked to National Security Agency of United States was detected freshly, and analysis confirmed that the backdoor was existing from the past 10 years. Dubbed as Bvp47 and linked to Equation Group-an NSA funded threat actor was first detected by anti-virus firm Virus Total in 2013. However, for reasons, not much was discussed or revealed about the advanced backdoor linked to Linux at that time.* “
What telemetry with "limited data" enabled?
very informative video
Can you share what kind of linux you were using? Distro, DE, VM software, all that stuff.
I know he uses KDE5, and that's all IK
Recently found ur channel love ur malware analysis videos. Do you have a discord?
Hey chief, found your channel recently. Amazing videos! I'm interested in how you setup your network logger and what you setup for your W10 / W11 vms to bypass VM Protection. If you could make some kind of video or point us somewhere for the network logger that would be amazing.
Future reference, you can use ctrl+esc in windows to open the start menu that way you don't accidentally open KDE Plasma's application launcher lol.
Very informative, thank you.
Better question though. What is the proxy you're using as it looks useful
Edit: mitproxy
You need to use something like Wireshark in this case
Every time you type in the search bar it sends the personalization options
Hi Eric, what a great effort! We would really like to see the same thing for macOS too!
Great, thank you! Subscribed! All!
I love these videos!
I miss being able to select what updates I want and only get those.
I think Linux does that
New subscriber. Would you be willing to do a similar test with Ubuntu, (modern versions of Fedora Workstation), and PopOS?
I think tons of people expect MS to be bad, but we're slowly experiencing this in mainstream Linux desktop distributions as well. It's not talked about nearly as much tho.
.... So remember how pirating adobe products is morally correct (currently even encouraged)? We should add Windows to that list.
wow. Thank you for sharing this.
How about just having a modified hosts file?
how to create custom ssl certificate make video about it!
I was wondering if O&O actually worked. Nice.
I don't trust Microsoft.
Is there no way to block programs to send data to Microsoft?
Which executable(s) is responsible for "phoning home"?
That's what was done in the video. None the less, I'd imagine most of this stuff is built in to existing structural executables. Things that if one were to delete, would simply break the entire operating system.
I'm not sure what I'm watching. Background noise from a fresh install and you typing in a web search, because that's what the Windows search bar is nowadays? And device info going to Windows isn't weird considering they're dishing out drivers so... that's expected. None of this is 'spying'.
While I do need Windows for certain things, the fact that it's collecting anything at all without my permission is enough to keep it confined to a virtual machine with GPU passthrough to do what I need it to do, then go dark until I need it again.
There are debloated versions of windows OS. People analysed and stripped away the stuff that doesn’t need to be there
@@maalikserebryakov I'm aware, but I'd rather just use Linux and only pull up Windows as-needed. I don't trust it.
How to turn this telemetry off?
O&O shutup 10: fighting proprietary software with more proprietary software lol.
They will also collect the event of me downloading linux and ditching windows🗿
So glad I switched to Pop!_OS 😅, thank you for the video!
Gosh, no wonder my internet is so bad on modern windows... Because it's being wasted on useless telemetry reports...
Hmmm didnt know it was that bad, is w10 the same ?
Zenarmor can block this house-wide. I was wondering why bing went off on my network opening states every 5 seconds lagging other stuff out. Suricata says windows collects USB metadata too X_X
CS1 mdns is annoying too in terms of lag on the whole network because everything else is usually Best Effort CS0.
Did the Microsoft robots take over your body at the very end there? What in the world happened with how you said "collect" at 13:11 ? Haha
the best part is, it's only gonna get worse
Brilliant video, good work.
Can you please test the currently famous 24H2 enterprise G edition?
linux is hot
What you forgot to consider is requests and data sent through other protocols such as TCP, UDP, SMB, etc. and not just HTTP or HTTPS
It is unanimously HTTPS because it sails right past firewalls unless the performance killing HTTPS inspection is in use AND this traffic is explicitly blocked. You wont see that scenario in a home setting for example.
Why the fuck this comment had 0 likes?
can you do the same with macos?
it's hard to install macOS on a VM, especially the newer ones
Great to see practically how Windows collects data and how O&O can be useful!
Thanks for the video!
What are some tools to remove the amount of telemetry information is being sent?
Linux
shutup10
winaero tweaker
wait can i ddos microsoft by just spamming the search bar?
I’m confused. None of those API calls were really that suspicious? No doubt Microsoft collects everything they can but I didn’t see anything in the video specifically
It's the unnecessary data that's being sent almost constantly. It can be used for user fingerprinting and who else knows what. Telemetry data was a lead into a malicious Microsoft teams hack.
Ideally you want to just have that activity only when necessary.
I really need to switch to linux
don't you need to know how to code or something to run linux?
@@JapaAppa uhhh no?
@@JapaAppanot at all
@@JapaAppanah, I know fuck all about coding, I'm close to the most standard brain-dead PC user around and I switched to Ubuntu just fine. most of my games work fine (or, as fine as they can *on my specific hardware*). there's even other types of Linux that are even easier than Ubuntu.
I find that Ubuntu does require some command line stuff every six months or so when it updates or when installing some weird niche thing. other than that, the only complication is the whole "oh god I'm used to stuff being in C:/ or programme files aaaaaaa where is it" but google helps there lol
@@JapaAppaNope!
can we do something about this? Like ddos that server or run a script that sends a ton of garbage data continuously?
That would literally crash the entire market. If you DDOS the Windows 11 server millions of pppl won't be able to do shit in their day to day lives cause a random dude annoyed by this sends garbage data. We're thinking about millions who might lose their work, get fired, or even multi-billion companies losing progress on their newest project. Not to mention the damage fees and investigation that will lead to the DDOSer getting sentenced.
Totally not worth the trouble
@@ImJustSomeoneNamedLucasassuming they get caught and don’t have good opsec but honestly its worth it plus like most people besides microsoft themselves shouldn’t be affected
@@linuxramblingproductions8554 Servers are an equipment used by people that are using Windows 11. It'll affect everyone not just Microsoft
@@linuxramblingproductions8554 You'll crash the server or slow it down. The server is not gonna respond anymore. Guess who uses those servers, Windows 11 users.
@@linuxramblingproductions8554 Nope
I'm good with Linux
please re-test with "Windows 11 LTSC" would be interesting to see if there is any less traffic
Can you test AtlasOS?
and then they say, "just use WSL!". Why, so that they could collect even my linux data? sorry, no
WSL Kali in particular seems to me the biggest honeypot for scriptkiddies, ever. I don't trust "Offensive Security" at all anymore. How many users even know the parent company is called "Offensive Security"
I've used Winaero Tweaker to modify windows update settings and telemetry stuff. Also allows for changing the look and feel of windows and even direct to legacy control panel instead of windows menus getting in the way.
try again maybe with simplewall I guess?
Why is that no matter how new your hardware is, your pc always lags, always makes noise on windows?
haven't had a lag on my computer on the last 5-7 years with different hardware and all sub midrange
Hes on a vm
thats actually a cool video, you should test it on other services
are you using an ai voice changer?
Funniest thing about data collection is I get ads for all the sh*t products I already own and curse out loud every day. So then I curse them some more while listening to the ad for the POS.
What linux distro are you using?
I use arch btw
@@ItsCookie-sr7xgi also use arch Linux btw
Cool ✌️@@linuxramblingproductions8554
i had no idea about that program, thank you!
Why install a system you have to actively fight against. You realize Linux is free and comes and many very easy variations, right? Or if you don't need simpleton shit, there is always OpenBSD.
@@callisoncaffrey Thank you for roasting me. yeah i know about linux. i have used it before. ill look into OpenBSD
@@callisoncaffreyits hard to switch to linuz when i grew up using windows and having my files in C:/
@@callisoncaffrey"Why install a system you have to actively fight against?"
>Proceeds to suggest linux
lol
@@ashyy6819 Spoken like someone who has never even tried it.
Though in case you really didn't understand what I meant: You are aware that Windows sends out everything you do, forces bloat unto you, decided when to update, takes features away, can hardly be configured, ...
I'm sure you've heard about the Recall feature, right? I know people think that would be spying on them, but that's not what it does. The spying is happening already in the background, but Recall moves the evaluation of your data onto your hardware. It saves Microsoft tons of money.
Meanwhile on Linux you have full control over everything. You can install an easy distro like Linuxmint, which is way easier than Windows, even for people who come from it.
The thing you think is Linux is LFS, where you actually have to download and compile every packet manually. Every other Distro, even Archlinux, is way easier. Most come with a graphical installer even. I run Gentoo too, and the only difficult thing there is configuring the kernel.
Anyway, even if it were as difficult as you make it sound, I would still prefer that over being the corporations' female canine. Then again it's not like it was bad for the Chinese to give up all privacy. I hear they have a prospering and free country over there.