What was Jupiter DIRECT?

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • What was Jupiter DIRECT? Today we dive into what is considered to be the final proposal for a shuttle derived rocket ever!
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    Check out this other really cool video on the DIRECT program by Lewis Massie: • The remarkable history...
    Credits:
    NASA, DIRECT team, myself
    Music:
    Mood
    Mythology
    Fallen Kingdom
    Intro (0:00)
    CxP Beginnings (1:11)
    Returning to the Shuttle (1:44)
    How to build DIRECT (2:44)
    Jupiter Variants (3:58)
    Purpose of DIRECT (7:04)
    Why did DIRECT never fly? (9:30)
    Outro (10:39)
    Source for most of the information in this video comes from this PDF. it's well worth the read: www.nasa.gov/pdf/361841main_1...
    #JupiterDIRECT #Moon #NASA
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Komentáře • 106

  • @philipmetschan8481
    @philipmetschan8481 Před 2 lety +51

    Wonderful Video David! As a founding member of the DIRECT team I certainly appreciate how well you conveyed the history of our efforts. The only thing I would add is that I wish you had touched a little on the presentation to the Augustine Commission, and that from day one DIRECT was about preserving and re-tasking the incredible NASA workforce that brought us the Space Shuttle Program. Thank you again.

    • @lewismassie
      @lewismassie Před 2 lety +5

      Hi Philip, I made a companion to this video that goes a little more in depth into the design history and thought behind the team's proposal(s).
      You can watch it here if you'd like czcams.com/video/tui0bJqhK_4/video.html

    • @DavidWillisSLS
      @DavidWillisSLS  Před 2 lety +8

      I can confirm it is a good video!

    • @powerfulstrong5673
      @powerfulstrong5673 Před rokem

      @@DavidWillisSLS SLS rockets and Orion capsules are essentially very old technologies, they are repeating the technologies of Apollo-Saturn. Why doesn't NASA use new technologies such as space refueling depots, in-orbit assembly, space tugs, and nuclear or plasma propulsion systems?

    • @landonrounsavall1125
      @landonrounsavall1125 Před rokem

      @@powerfulstrong5673 they need to keep shuttle jobs and congress wouldnt let them, and hey whatever works, works right?

    • @powerfulstrong5673
      @powerfulstrong5673 Před rokem

      @@landonrounsavall1125 The Space Shuttle should not be canceled!

  • @anthonyhunt701
    @anthonyhunt701 Před 2 lety +7

    SLS descended directly from Jupiter…I remember their website …was a worthy idea.. great vid that was overdue!!

  • @StarshipFairing
    @StarshipFairing Před 2 lety +35

    Nice video! Really wish original Jupiter rockets became a real thing
    Engine section is really curse though lol

  • @orange_phoenix4774
    @orange_phoenix4774 Před 2 lety +9

    Very cool so as I understand directs Jupiter was never meant to fly but instead show NASA what it could design.

  • @ars33nicmarie
    @ars33nicmarie Před 2 lety +13

    YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE BEST ROCKET THAT NEVER HAPPENED

    • @Plab1402
      @Plab1402 Před 2 lety +1

      *coughs

    • @ars33nicmarie
      @ars33nicmarie Před 2 lety +3

      @@Plab1402 ok so maybe i did forget about sea dragon

    • @Plab1402
      @Plab1402 Před 2 lety +1

      *coughs again

    • @HypersonicWyvern
      @HypersonicWyvern Před 2 lety +2

      @@Plab1402 bro nothing beats Sea Dragon what you talking bout

    • @AstronAndry
      @AstronAndry Před rokem

      @@HypersonicWyvern *coughs as well

  • @DAXT24
    @DAXT24 Před rokem +1

    Oh my.....wow! This is the SINGLE VIDEO ABOUT DIRECT JUPITER that I found and takes those informations seriously, and makes about it VERY SERIOUS video! WOW! THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!

  • @AstroKiwi
    @AstroKiwi Před 2 lety +12

    Extremely well-made video! Congrats David, I hope there is more to come!

  • @Fireballfree
    @Fireballfree Před rokem +2

    I come back to this video every now and then just to imagine what could have been

  • @brodie_friesen
    @brodie_friesen Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks David, great video!

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 2 lety +1

    THANKS FOR UPLOADING THIS ! ! ! I HAD COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN ABOUT DIRECT AND IT WAS GOOD TO SEE THIS VIDEO AND REMIND MYSELF WHAT THIS PROGRAM WAS ABOUT ! ! ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @taraxacum2633
    @taraxacum2633 Před 2 lety +2

    Megapoggers, mate. Your videos are underrated.

  • @HalNordmann
    @HalNordmann Před rokem +6

    For DIRECT, I think it had some structural problems meaning that the tanks needed the modifications done on SLS. The LH2 tank was essentially "hanging" from the SRB strut, which meant that it was quite flimsy but lightweight. Compare its weight to the Energia core and you'll know what I mean. It likely would've broken apart with RS-25s on the bottom, or at least come uncomfortably close. The margins in general were just too close and it had some overtly optimistic assumptions, which is why going with SLS instead of DIRECT was the right call.

  • @martinpucher8585
    @martinpucher8585 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! Thanks David! Martin from Space Intelligence

  • @quadaerospacespacecat8061

    My daily dose of NASA content,love it.

  • @cosmicandrew50
    @cosmicandrew50 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice, love it

  • @casxaplays9466
    @casxaplays9466 Před 2 lety +1

    Very nice!

  • @jimseibyl5140
    @jimseibyl5140 Před 2 lety +1

    Good stuff!

  • @spaceenthusiast7160
    @spaceenthusiast7160 Před 2 lety

    Great video! DIRECT certainly was an interesting program.

  • @dalel3608
    @dalel3608 Před 2 lety +5

    Too bad the Direct Team didn't head the SLS program instead, cause it's definitely not getting $4,800/kg now (it's ~$15,400/kg for the first three, not including dev costs). 😅

    • @DavidWillisSLS
      @DavidWillisSLS  Před 2 lety +5

      Well that number was assuming 5 flights per year. Not sure what 1 launch per year would’ve been. The PDF didn’t say

  • @johanmartijn
    @johanmartijn Před 2 lety +2

    Now I know where the name Jupiter IV for SLS comes from

  • @MatthewCable
    @MatthewCable Před 2 lety

    Nicely done my friend! :D

  • @claimxart
    @claimxart Před 2 lety

    Amazing, can’t wait for the launch of sls

  • @PaddyPatrone
    @PaddyPatrone Před 2 lety +1

    Narration speed is perfect now. Your earlier videos were a bit too fast.

  • @tgn2502
    @tgn2502 Před 2 lety +2

    lets give him some views boys (EDIT: finished watching, its worth it. Good job Willis!)

  • @jmstudios457
    @jmstudios457 Před 2 lety +3

    superior launch system

  • @Theodorus5
    @Theodorus5 Před rokem +1

    Good information...great music too ;-)

  • @CRS1578
    @CRS1578 Před 2 lety +1

    Beautiful

  • @Jrcraft
    @Jrcraft Před 2 lety +1

    Nice!

  • @epicdaniel508
    @epicdaniel508 Před 2 lety +1

    Great!

  • @dododigital6910
    @dododigital6910 Před 2 lety +1

    Very epic

  • @egamersmk771
    @egamersmk771 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice

  • @potentially_great6944
    @potentially_great6944 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video but I'm going to point out that there were SDVs being studied since before shuttle flew.

    • @DavidWillisSLS
      @DavidWillisSLS  Před 2 lety +3

      Yup! But DIRECT was the last one ever! (Cuz I doubt there will be any others after SLS)

  • @NAF275
    @NAF275 Před 2 lety +2

    banger vid

  • @rocketcello5354
    @rocketcello5354 Před 2 lety +1

    nice

  • @DemoR
    @DemoR Před 2 lety +3

    Do the two launches fight or something? ;) (6:30)

  • @_K3PLR
    @_K3PLR Před 2 lety +2

    Very awesome and informative video! Do you plan on making other videos for other SDLV's?

  • @SolWorldwide
    @SolWorldwide Před 2 lety +1

    niCE

  • @brandonfigueroa7399
    @brandonfigueroa7399 Před rokem +1

    Do one on the Jupiter III

  • @Ashie690
    @Ashie690 Před 2 lety +1

    Anyone have a link for the ''mood'' music used in this video cause i cant find it anywhere :(

  • @UncleFester84
    @UncleFester84 Před rokem +1

    Question what if the Orbiter was modified and put on top of the Jupiter stage?

    • @DavidWillisSLS
      @DavidWillisSLS  Před rokem +4

      The aerodynamics wouldn’t work. Your center of lift would be well forward of your center of mass

  • @kingfisherb90
    @kingfisherb90 Před 2 lety +1

    DIRECT Team used the worm, they were Based.

  • @_mikolaj_
    @_mikolaj_ Před 2 lety +2

    Hmm, if SLS is direct, then uh, i'm afraid something did not go according to the plan lol

    • @DavidWillisSLS
      @DavidWillisSLS  Před 2 lety +1

      Well the differences between direct and SLS, mainly stretching the rocket, were what caused the plan of direct to be thrown out.

  • @lewismassie
    @lewismassie Před 2 lety +12

    Extremely based video David
    My counterpart to this video is now up czcams.com/video/tui0bJqhK_4/video.html

  • @chaosopher23
    @chaosopher23 Před rokem +1

    Please skip #6. Go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7... if you must, but not 6.

  • @quadaerospacespacecat8061

    So you are telling me that SLS is just Jupiter III.

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 2 lety +4

    USING THE ROCKET EQUATION IS THERE A LIMIT AS TO HOW BIG YOU CAN BUILD A ROCKET TO LAUNCH BIGGER PAYLOADS AND STILL GET IT OFF THE GROUND ? ? ? 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @vulture4117
      @vulture4117 Před 2 lety +1

      I.e. some curve drawn by the rocket equation creates a vertical asymptote (as opposed to increasingly fast increasing line, like you get from a parabola)? Nope. No theoretical limit, but there certainly are PRACTICAL limits.

    • @jamese9283
      @jamese9283 Před 2 lety +2

      There is no limit, however, as MrZ said, it becomes impractical. At some point, small increases in payload require ridiculous increases in fuel. The solution is to not use traditional chemical propulsion.

  • @vulture4117
    @vulture4117 Před 2 lety +2

    Why'd Orion's panels get changed from 2 circles to 4 rectangles?

    • @DavidWillisSLS
      @DavidWillisSLS  Před 2 lety +3

      Change from an American to a European Service module I belive

    • @clancy5600
      @clancy5600 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DavidWillisSLS Yeah, ESM is ATV derived so they are using the same panels.

  • @jim2lane
    @jim2lane Před 9 měsíci

    The reason that so little progress had been made on the Constellation program 1:30 is simple - it was chronically underfunded. Congress and the Executive branch directed NASA to build the Constellation system, but gave them a ridiculously low budget to do so 😒😒

    • @boringusername792
      @boringusername792 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Underfunded or... Is it perhaps significantly over budget?

  • @Fireballfree
    @Fireballfree Před 2 lety +1

    WE WERE ROBBED

  • @vulture4117
    @vulture4117 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey I heard you have a Discord server?

    • @DavidWillisSLS
      @DavidWillisSLS  Před 2 lety +1

      I do! Links in. The video description!

    • @vulture4117
      @vulture4117 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DavidWillisSLS Oh how did I missed that

  • @skywatcher2025
    @skywatcher2025 Před 2 lety +1

    SLS

  • @kingfisherb90
    @kingfisherb90 Před 2 lety +1

    Dual /= duel

    • @DavidWillisSLS
      @DavidWillisSLS  Před 2 lety

      already been pointed out. i made a spelling error. cant fix it now

  • @kommandantgalileo
    @kommandantgalileo Před 2 lety +1

    What about the Jupiter III

    • @DavidWillisSLS
      @DavidWillisSLS  Před 2 lety +1

      that was something else lol

    • @kommandantgalileo
      @kommandantgalileo Před 2 lety +1

      @@DavidWillisSLS 2 Shuttles launching a Saturn V

    • @AstronAndry
      @AstronAndry Před rokem +1

      @@kommandantgalileo Godam why does everything point back to the idea of an orbital construction of the LV that puts the part there.
      It's like the Saturn V launching prices of the Saturn V to increase the range.
      IDK why my mind is like this.

  • @SebPlaySpaceflight
    @SebPlaySpaceflight Před 2 lety

    Ok

  • @TheSpinningToaster
    @TheSpinningToaster Před 8 měsíci

    6:47
    more like "why the fuck not"

  • @Dylin91
    @Dylin91 Před rokem

    Q1

  • @user-ec5rh7ep1e
    @user-ec5rh7ep1e Před 10 měsíci

    Jolkosun

  • @anthonyhunt701
    @anthonyhunt701 Před rokem

    This… would have worked. Followed its website & CZcams channel. Shame

  • @laz7354
    @laz7354 Před 6 měsíci

    A: George W. Bush