THIS Popular Toyota Engine is Getting in a Habit of Consuming Oil. Let's Find Out Why
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- The 2AR-FE 2.5L 4 cylinder engine is a very popular engine in many Toyota and Lexus models. However lately it has been developing an issue with oil consumption especially the early version of this engine.
In this video we have a beautiful 2011 Toyota RAV4 with just over 150,000 miles that has developed severe oil consumption.
We take the engine out of the car, tear it apart to show you what caused the oil consumption. What we are going to do to fix it and most importantly what do you do if you are faced with this issue.
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0:00 Intro
0:30 Engine Removal \ What's Going on with 2AR-FE
12:00 Why This Issue Happened
18:53 Engine Reassembly \ Cost of This job and more
30:45 First Engine Start - Auta a dopravní prostředky
The narrated time laps are the best.
Lapse*
He has a great voice for the narration. Watching the engine tear down and rebuild videos remind me of watching a nature documentary. Fascinating to watch and listen to.
I AGREE! WELL DONE!
Lime taps, I like it when the camera is sped up, allowing us to enjoy lime soda straight from it's taps, so that visual info is condensed into a much shorter time frame! 😊
Love me some popcorn
I use to be a Toyota service advisor and manager. One thing I can tell you is never change your oil at 10k mile intervals. 5k with full synthetic oil is the best solution. Also these low tension piston rings are garbage.
I have done many of these engines and can tell you that while this is not a good issue for Toyota they are not the only ones. I would still drive this vehicle over any domestic or German vehicle.
$7k and you get a video of proof of the repair on CZcams … worth it 👌🏽 new subscriber
for that money the engine should be coated in gold
Customer's rationale for going ahead with this repair makes a lot of sense to me, particularly in the current used car market.
I started watching your channel shortly after I purchased my 2020 4Runner. I have always taken good care of my cars and do my own maintenance whenever possible. Thank you for being so informative and teaching even more things to consider when working on my car. Because of you, I faithfully change my oil every 5k miles. I so appreciate your honesty and integrity. May God bless you and your family.
Or 6 months. Whichever comes first.
You are a smart person! If you change it @ 5K miles on a regular basis, you will get 300K+ on the motor. Just don't forget to change tranny fluid & radiator fluid, and that 4Runner will last you 20K+ years.
I’ve had my T100 for 25 years, ten of them with an overdriven TRD SC Gen4. An injector stuck closed, and I burned an exhaust valve nearly in half when I finally opened it up to look. It could have made it a lot further than the 287k it had, but I have a habit of over modifying and abusing everything I drive. Luckily, I LOVE tearing them down and rebuilding them as much as I love driving them…
I’m also a stickler for daily oil level checks, and the A340E transmission is still shifting nicely because it has been drained and refilled every other year, at 30k.
Wow, I think I just found the best car channel on CZcams.
My father once told my “nothing good is cheap or nothing cheap is good” if you need something to last you need to maintain it properly that’s why I agree with you on using original parts and good fluids.
Same with internet brides. If they are parked at the kerb with their keys in ready to go........ look out ! Never marry anyone until you have gotten em drunk a couple of times... 2 quarts of IPA should do it... So learn from my lot, which I know you will not, and learn about women from me..
@Paper Tiger Exacly for example my car 2010 Audi A4 b8 1.8 TFSI, the OEM engine mounts cost 250$ each.
They are made for Audi by Lemforder if you buy them directly from Lemforder they cost 80$(they are exacly the same parts, the one i bought were diffrent only in one think-they had AUDI logo scraped off)
There is rearly a think in which the OEM part is better at but it always cost 2-5x more than good brand replacement part.
yeah on a computer or what ever its different but on a car you spend near 20k on its not worth fucking around to save 20$ per oil chance or $100 per year on not changing oil for it to sludge up or overheat from lack of coolant or old coolant etc.
I have a 2zz celica and thrash the fuck out of it but change the oil every 7,000KM with full synthetic oil for piece of mind. have had the valve cover off and looks like the previous owner may of let it varnish a bit but scared to do engine flush incase a leak develops
@@atom608 you something my friend ! I agree some cars no matter how much you spend on maintenance and care of it they still give troubles.
There is an old russian saying "The cheapskate pays double"
So even with the long 10,000 mile oil change interval this engine still goes 150,000 trouble free miles. Thats still impressive😉
You have a high skill set. Not all shops and mechanics can operate at your level of expertise and professionalism. Your an honest businessman who needs to make a living and pay your employeess...That's why God has blessed you and the community you serve. Wish there were more businessmen like you!
This channel is both knowledge, therapy, and heartwarming to know that there are excellent mechanics (humans) out there. I love this guy.
On a long trip, when everything is nice and hot, you can barely hear the 2ar fe running at idle. Sometimes I have to press my ear up to the car to even hear if anything is making a noise. For context, I can hear a Prius pull up on my driveway clearer than this engine at idle. It truly is a gem and I'm taking care of mine!
Had a 2010 Camry with this engine. Noticed it burning oil at around 165k miles. I had bought it from my dad at 135k miles but he did his oil changes every 6-8k miles. I always do mine at 5k. It’s a damn shame for such a good car. Got a Mazda cx5 and sold the Camry to my brother for cheap as a second car, to last as long as it can.
Yea ours started around 160k. Our Cx5 has 160k miles and has been way more reliable than that old 08 Camry.
I had a 2010 RAV4 (white color that was pealing) with this 2.5 litre motor. Just sold it in 2022 with about 150,000 miles. One major issue was the rattling noise from the VVTI right after purchasing in 2010 (covered by warranty). I religiously changed the oil and didn’t experience oil burning issues. The only other issues that I had before selling it was rear wheel bearings and a minor oil leak, like a drop possibly from valve cover or rear main seal. Overall, it was a great vehicle for the 12 years we owned.
I had the same VVT-I rattle on my ‘12 Highlander. Drove with the cold start rattle for 75K miles. The dealership couldn’t figure it out as they told us. We finally got it resolved at 175K miles during a timing belt change. Still driving at 211K miles.
Our family friend has 2010 Rav4 4 cylinder engine. Vehicle has a bit over 100k miles and doesn't seem to burn any measurable amount of oil. He does change oil every 4k miles though with synthetic blend, I believe. No strange noises under the hood even when starting the car cold. We did have to replace rear wheel passenger side bearing couple of years ago. Additionally there was some sort of a coolant hose leak and Toyota parts guy said it is common and had the part in stock.
I’m buying my gf’s 2010 Camry that she inherited from her mother that purchased new. She maintained for her mom and continued to when she got it. Changed oil every 3k miles since new and the car hasn’t had any issues and I will continue the maintenance. It has 164k on the clock. I’ve had a couple Toyota’s here Down Under and currently have a 97 4wd Rav4 that has 265k kilometres, 165k miles and is going well still.
My Camry hybrid has 467,356 miles.
I’ve got 230,000 on my 2013 Camry. Change oil every 5k miles. No oil consumption.
i have a 2011 camry with the 2.5. Never burned a drop of oil, I have religiously followed 5,000 mile interval oil changes. If the motor has been well maintained you are not going to have any issues. One of the most bullet proof engines Toyota has ever produced.
Had a 2011 also, albeit in stick. Sad I wrecked it at 232k. No oil burning. First 100k or so was 10k oci on TGMO, then at some point ai switched to 5W30 but still 10k, finally down to 5k. I suspect the engine would be fine with 10k on 0W20 even after 200k, but I wanted longer life. Sadly it wasn’t in the cards.
Good motor. Hoping the later A25A works as well.
Not true, I have same Camry and been changing oil every 5,000 miles with Mobil 1 and it’s burning oil!! Toyota dropped the ball on this one and refused to stand behind their product period….
@@supton1532 not all 10k intervals are the same. When there is an engine hour counter in one of the modules you get a far better data set. I see vehicles with 10 k changes but odo divided by engine hours is over 40 14:25 (mph effectively) the issues are negligible. I see 5k changed vejicles.with loads of engine issues and odo/hour shows 27 mph due to lots of idle. Remote start is great for my business and bad for your wallet when you own that vehicle past 90k miles.
@@mikek.9980 What year?
could perhaps be a manufacturing defect
@@therevx5225 2011. Toyota messed up the rings and pistons. The corrected pistons have bigger oil collection holes to prevent a build up. Prior version engine owners sued Toyota and they finally decided to cover it under extended warranty. But nobody suing them for 2AR-FE so no extended warranty.....I was a loyal Toyota customer but for my next car I will consider Honda.
The newest version (2018) of the 2.5 seems to be a really great engine! Many Uber drivers out there with 250k + and no oil consumption. Change your oil regularly, and don't use cheap oil. Those quick lube places probably use the cheapest bulk oil they can find 😮
They really perfect it
I love the newer 2.5 dynamic Force engine.
40 mpg hwy! ❤
Probably? They absolutely do. Many don’t even change your oil filter and some don’t even change your oil.
2.5 toyota engine produced after 2017, these all engines have knocking noise, very disgusting sound when you trying to rev between 2000 4000rpm making rattle like pinging knocking noise, horrible horrible shame to toyota. I'm telling you guys who have this engine just try to rev up to 4,500rpm and you will hear that disgusting knocking noise,
Hhrrrrrrrr hrrrrrrrrrrr
I had a 2011 Camry with this engine, and experienced a lot of oil usage, and then the catalytic converter became clogged. I changed my oil regularly, but not as often as recommended. I wish I'd known about The Car Care Nut a lot sooner.
My 2011 Camry burned 1 quart of oil every 800 miles by the time I sold it to CarMax in 2021.
no matter how many jobs you do, your heart always skips a few beats when you start the car after any repair...it just goes with the territory....doesn't matter if you change the oil or replace the motor, 30 yrs later, it still skips a beat...great job
In some vehicles just changing the PCV valve will stop oil consumption. That said, my dad got over 300,000 miles on his 1963 Buick Electra 225 by changing the oil every 2,000 miles with Mobil Oil. The Electra 225 ran perfectly when parked, we just didn't need it anymore!
I loved the 225, I learned how to drive in one in 1973. Drivers Ed class in high school.😊
For the money, it's a fantastic job performed on this car. I like your logic of spending time looking over the rest of the car to justify the expense for the engine replacement. Very good job AMD!
With time and/or mileage proper maintenance, I hope this vehicle goes at least 200,000 on the engine!
I would be surprised if that engine didn't last for at least 200,000 miles.
I only drove my 77 Corolla liftback to work and back for ten years,
had under 200,000 on it, but it never stranded me once. You can't
beat Toyota's for reliability.
@@geofffikar3417 newer Toyotas are FAR away from the reliability of 77 Corollas. Toyota's today are plagued with issues suchs as in their 2GR which affect most vehicles and those are all expensive ENGINE OUT jobs. Also all their blocks are disposable if something happens 8/9k on a new block. Rather buy a Manual Honda and save me the engine out repair bills.
@@ToyotaAristo Whatever happened to Toyota?
lol, i'm almost at 500k miles on the 2az-fe '09 camry (original eng and auto-trans) and 300k miles on '14 scion tc 2ar-fe (manual-trans , and about to replace transmission)
This is one of the things that makes me crazy about lexus. They didn’t want to change our oil until we hit 16000kms (10,000miles). Even though we had ECP and prepaid maintenance we had to pay to get the oil changed after 6 months. We are retired and we mostly drive short trips. It’s pennywise and pound foolish.
Its a plot to make your engine die faster!!!
That's crazy long...I would push past 6k miles especially you drive short distances most of time. There will be a mix of gasoline in you engine oil. You need to remove that. Imagine how much gas mixture is in there when you hit 10k miles. Yikes
OCI always have a time component as well as distance, so if you do low miles, dealers have to abide by the OCI time component and change the oil and filter even if the distance criteria isn't met.
@@petesmittwhat’s OCI
@@cavvvyr7021 OCI stands for "Oil Change Interval"
I had a 2008 Rav4. I had the recall done at a Toyota dealer. Video on my channel. I drove it until I had a guy pull out in front of me and the car was totalled. It didn't burn any oil after Toyota replaced the oil burning burning issue. I purchased a 2017 Rav4 and have over 186000 miles on it and it's been a great car. Thank you for making these videos.
You put on 30k miles a year? That's impressive
@@melvingibson4525 Yes alot of highway driving.
I am an original owner of a 2009 Rav4. Has 176,000 miles. At about 150,000 miles it started burning oil. I am a diy so changed oil every 5,000 miles. I couldn't determine why it burns oil but this video answered that question. Burn about 1 quart every 4,000 miles so that's not too concern yet.
I have two cars with the earlier 2AZFE. One has a valve seal issue and has made a puff of smoke on startup for the last 16 years. Neither consumes excessive oil. The 2006 Highlander with 192,000 miles would consume a half quart in 5000 miles if driven at 80 MPH for extended times, but normally is on the full mark at OCI. The 2003 Camry that smokes on startup has never had oil added in 120,000 miles
Your channel is amazing because I haven't found a single video of yours that I did not want to watch. Thank you for producing this incredible content and please keep them coming! We appreciate it!
Amazing video. I love your thought process Ahmed. You are truly are a priceless automotive technician. I wish I had some one like you telling me that the rest of the car is falling apart before I decide to replace the engine. Long ago, when I was an ignorant fool with cars, I had replaced an engine only to find that I have a Hollywood chair at the shop with never ending repairs after. Thanks again for sharing the Car Care Nut ethic! God bless brother.
In other words, you became a preferred customer.
😉 Love the "Hollywood chair at the shop" reference! ❤️ 👍📌
@@8avexp they even put my name on the chair 😊.
Excellent video ! My ‘13 Camry XLE , 130K miles, goes from oil change to the next one without even top off 😃 I do my oil change every 5k(service light on) and use only synthetic Mobil 1 high mileage EP 😁
What you are doing here is gold.
Narrated time laps is a goodness for basic mechanics. Detailed mechanics needs some of both laps and 1:1
Hello Sir .I am watching your videos on daily basis.I can to tell you that Toyota should pay you tons of money for representing their company and for teaching technicians how to work on Toyota product .You are hands down the best teacher on the net .Calm voice without stupid music or screeming to the microphone .that is exactly how instructional videos should look a like .👏👏👍
I absolutely love these videos, professionalism at its finest!! I would rather watch these than the junk that’s on the tv
Hi I am from South Africa and i've been watching your channel for a couple of months now.I am really blessed watching and learning from you.I really appreciate your honesty.Please continue showing us more of your videos.Thank you.
You really know your stuff, and I love the pragmatic takes based on your great experience with working on these cars.
You're great at helping people understand the math of car issues, swaps, investment etc. It's really complicated and different for everyone depending on their needs and skills. Great channel.
I agree with the owner’s logic here, especially in his case where he’s the original owner, maintained it overall until it reached this point. I’m a 2nd owner of a 2007 RAV4 w/the oil burning issue. I just keep the oil level right, especially now that my nephew is currently using it. TCCN videos rock 👍🏻
I have a 2008 v6 rav4 w 260,000 miles and it burns oils, about a quart between oil changes
This kind of video is what I'm talking about. Excellent!! Thanks for your efforts in making this.
The transparency, Ethos, honesty, intellect, and wisdom.
Always learning, thanks.
Great video as always , you are my go to mechanic on CZcams anything dealing with Toyota’s ,really enjoy your expertise on these common issues on different models , be waiting on the next video 👁️👁️!!
Agreed! The voiceovers are appreciated. I’m sure it adds time for you, but the quality is there.
I sincerely hope that many people see & comprehend this kind of video to "drive home" the point that owner responsibility for appropriate service intervals & visually checking fluids & observing under the hood for changes will extend the life of the engine & vehicle overall. Thanks for your time to film these procedures & to your management for allowing it.
Loved to watch you do this job - EXCELLENT video. This is the video I’ve been waiting 7 years for. My wife bought her first brand new car in 2008: a 2009 Camry with this 4 cylinder engine. After about 6 years of meticulous maintenance (at around 110K miles) oil started vanishing. No leaks, no smoke coming out of the tailpipe, no change in performance. I kept watching the oil and adding oil in increasingly large amounts for another two years. As Toyota said the oil consumption rate was “within acceptable range” they didn’t do anything about it when the warranty was still active. Being old school, I finally felt that a quart vanishing every 500 miles was a sign of eminent failure, so we sold the car for very little to a friend (for their teenage son) with total disclosure about why we were getting rid of it at 189K miles. He’s kept a very close eye on the oil as we instructed, and seven years (and a massive number of miles) later he’s still loving that car and had zero trouble with it aside from buying oil all the time. So if you have this engine and “over-maintain it” as you said (keep a very close eye on it and accept extra oil consumption & more frequent changes) don’t freak out about the vanishing oil. Thanks for mentioning the catalytic converter clog. Hopefully w/his being a Camry (not RAV4) he won’t have to replace that.
I have a 2012 Toyota Camry with 400000 miles and would love to bring to this guy. So hard to find honest mechanic in my area.
Whoever is servicing it now is doing just fine of a job.
Honestly I’ve had no major problems until the last 30000 miles (cold start rattle), just changed oil as recommended.
Where do you buy gasoline for it?
@@gregjohnson2073 mainly name brands like shell and marathon. I try to stay away from places like Walmart and others who sell gas at cheap price.
@@mikes6458 keep in mind a cold start rattle can be, not always but can be, a sign that timing chain guides have worn and that the sound is actually the timing chain. It WILL fail eventually if that's what you have going on. Good job on service and keep in mind your best oil filter is often your best air filter.
Great format! Your narrations are packed w/good information. Videos I’ve watched where the host mentions the size of the wrench used on every fastener are monotonous. I’ve always found the wrench that fits it the one to use ;)
Thank you for being the technician I strive to be daily. Ethical, honest, do it right the first time or don't do it. I've grown a following of very loyal customers. It does benefit everyone in the long term. Kudos!
It is always an absolute pleasure to watch a master of his craft at work. Thank you for sharing. When my toyota pickup with a 22re needs a timing chain replacement i know who to go to now.
Thanks for reiterating the importance of timely oil changes.. and a good brand of oil as well
That owner’s logic to spend so much money was very sound. If I was on that position I would to the same. We love your honesty and can only pray to find a mechanic with your work ethic.
You are 1 big reason why I will hold on to my 2017 Camry .I learned so much on this motor platform
Very interesting and once a gain a pleasure to watch you at work. Your customers are fortunate to have you. I like to see you smile when you unwrap the new short block.
2013 RAV4 here, original owner. 1st oil change at 2k miles, 2nd at 5k miles and every 5k miles after that. Started with Mobil1 but have been using Costco (Kirkland 0w20) for the last 50k miles or so. Car has 135k miles right now and does not burn any oil.
Good to know. I just bought a 2013 rav4 and use the Costco oil as well.
Love the content, always answering questions I didn't even know I had. Yeah! why is it burning oil :)
That is some diligent hard work. Very methodical and smart way of tackling the problem too. Too bad you're all the way in Chicago.
I love how transparent you are with the price
This is a good video to give you my thanks, AMD. I've got a 2010 Prius(😱)with 90k miles. I was doing the bad oil changes(13-16mo/11k) before I found your videos a couple years ago. Because of them, I caught any issues before the rings locked up and I started burning oil. I had the dealership run a strong oil detergent through at around 75k as part of a big maintenance service(engine/trans/cooling), and I've been religious about oil changes ever since(Pennzoil Ultra Platinum). I'm trading it off in about a week for a brand new Prius, but now I can feel good about handing off a Toyota that should have another 200k or more left on the ICE drivetrain(based on testing, the hybrid battery probably has about 8 years left if well treated - I also added the OEM retrofit battery vent filter you recommended for the early gen3s).
Great vid…..I had this rapid oil-burning issue on a Camry, and was VERY disappointed with Toyota. No recall, no service support….abandoned by Toyota. Thanks for your narrative on this job. 👍
@tom o 2007
Fantastic video, I loved the financial analysis. I am an owner of a 2011 Camry with the 2AR-FE 107K miles and it has begun burning oil. I love my Camry and I am keeping an eye on it to get the most that I can.
It’s such a pleasure watching AMD work! A true Master mechanic!
I recommend to my friend’s kids who are aspiring to work on cars that they MUST watch his videos.
Even when it’s a sad story being told …😎
(Couldn’t help noticing how black the oil was that came out of the engine when it got turned over…not good!)
My favorite parts of the video are when you speed up the work, while talking softly over the video about what's going on.
Boy we need more people like him have critical Thinking skill.common sense and superior logic.
Thank you AMD for your good advice on this engine and the great work on the time lapse.
You know he's a pro because he makes it look easy. Great video.
I have a 4 cyl 2010 Camry SE that i bought new in 2009. It currently has 215,000 miles and uses less than a quart every 5,000 miles. My son has been driving it in college the last few years and I remind him to keep an eye on it. I've changed the oil with synthetic ever since it was new every 5,000-6,000 miles. I hope the car makes it another 2 years.
I still have my 2009 Camry Hbrid (2AR-FXE) and was fortunate enough to have the pistons and rings replaced during the TSB campaign several years ago. Hasn't burned a drop since. Thanks to this channel, I do the oil changes and most of its maintenance. Now I just need a tire machine and a way to program the TPM sensors :)
What about a 6cyc 2007-2011 Camry? You also says that to avoid 2007-2011 Camry.
I am very fortunate I live in a small town in Oklahoma . There are four gas stations that have regular gas. I never use anything except pure gasoline.
I hope that you don’t ever get tired of hearing this but you’re the BEST! I can’t say this enough.
Thanks,I've learned something new. This is the third video I've watched from three different CZcams content creators that's had the same problem with their customer's vehicle. Burning coolant in a couple of cylinders with coolant migration through the head gasket along with a few loose head bolts.
I so wish you were within a couple hours of me. I would be your customer for life. I really like the way you work on cars. You have a gift brother!
This valuable video couldn't have at a better time for me. You have explained "so precisely" the exact problem my 2011 RAV4 had last week. I took it to my favorite Toyota dealership and they correctly diagnosed the problem and the cost, which you have confirmed and explained in more detail. Many thanks for saving me a tremendous amount of time and laying out the facts. The detailed explanation will help my family make the right decisions on what to do with my RAV4. If I decide to repair it, I'll bring it from Virginia to Chicago. Thank you so very much for educating me.
I appreciate very much your detailed convencing informations regarding oil change intervals. My German Toyota Avensis 1.8 from 2008 runs like a Swiss clock with synthetic oil every six months. So no sludge inside the robust (Corolla) motor ist developing. 🎯
This channel is just like a movie with much explanation
I love your show ❤❤
So relaxing watching you give life back to a car
Love this channel 🙂
Gettings from Romania, you are the sole reason why my 2018 Lexus IS300 300h (which has the 2ar-fse) gets an oil change every 10K km. You mentioned that in around 2012, the 2ar got some updates. Could you maybe mention in a video what exactly was changed?
If I lived close, you 100% would be my mechanic. Great job.
Great video, I agree on using OEM parts especially on engine internal parts, oven been a VW tech in the Chicagoland area for 22 years and I can’t remember the amount of aftermarket parts failing after installing. Keep up those great detailed videos
I used to look at new cars thinking which ones I'd like to get when used some years down the road but with 10k mile oil changes I better save up for something new.
Well this warning is too late for me, but I’d rather know to be alert for the potential problem. So far, so good on a 2011 Camry. I’m forcing myself to go old school and check my oil every stop to get gas. Always clean and full. However, the records from original owner show he bought into 10,000 mile synthetic oil change for first 40,000 miles. I change it every 5000. Thanks for the video.
I asked the dealership and the mechanic said : no you don't need to do them so often. Sorry, but I'll be the one getting into expenses in 10 years if I follow your advice.
I just got my car's oil changed today. Had it for about 3-4 months , and had about 3,200 miles on there with a lot of stop and go driving but driving on the highway every so often as well. Normally they woulda done it at 5000 miles but I had the car for a while and the guy was nice enough to do it for me early. immediately noticed the improved gas mileage after that was done. I won't have to get it changed again until about 8000 miles according to the sticker they put on the front window.
They rotated the tires and changed the filter and washer fluid too. Very glad I did it. I have a 2023 Honda Civic Sport, but your tips have really been useful there as well. The multipoint inspection they did found that everything is in great shape as well and I wanna keep it that way!
Your are a skilled & gifted master of your craft. Blessings to you & your family. 🙏
so few drivers understand we ALL driving way deep into the Severe driving maintenance schedule and so few actually follow the interval and just do what the manufacturer says, no matter what any auto manufacturer says, 5,000 or less, you might push to 6,000 on synthetic, the but the whole 10,000-15,000 is a total scam for cars that are garage queens that only get driven only on the highway.
When I owned my Scion tC with the 2.4, I sent an oil sample to Blackstone Labs and they said I could push it to 8,000 and be ok, but it's just such a cheap investment to change the oil more often than trying to get longevity on oil changes.
I had 02 Camry 4cyn, 5speed manual transmission. It was made in Japan. I put 300,000 miles on it when I sold it. It never used any oil. I changed with full synthetic mobile 1,every 5000 miles or less. Never used any oil . As a matter a fact never did anything except battery and tires .
Where did you buy the gasoline that you used for?
Is there a real-time video? I am swapping a 2016 Rav4 engine, and your info is second to none.
Thanks for all the great contents.
the photography on this video is really good. hope we see the lexus again soon!
Great video. I have a 2009 Rav4 with the 2AR with 185,000 miles and it doesn't burn a drop of oil. Have changed the oil every 5,000 miles since new.
Just curious, was the 5,000 miles put on in less than 6 months?
@@terrysennhenn896 Yes, about every 5 months
Also, I've always used 5w 20 synthetic. The manual states both 5W and 0W-20 can be used
Where did you buy the fuel that you used for that car?
My wife's 2010 RAV with the 2AR has 205000 miles. I've been religious about changing the oil roughly every 5,000 miles. The majority of the miles were when she commuted 100 miles round trip three days a week (highway). I would push it to 7500 sometimes during that time, but never more than that. Now her commute is about 10 miles and as soon as that "MAINT REQD" light turns solid, I change the oil and filter. It doesn't burn any oil. It'll get a slight dark haze on the rear bumper between car washes, but no measurable loss of oil. Every 5000 miles...he's not kidding. Do it!
I hope you truly know how important your videos are. I just purchased a used 2014 RAV4 with only 44k car was one owner have full dealer service records. Your videos can save people thousands and thousands of dollars. I hope you know how much we appreciate you.
Great video. Thanks for the elaboration of the many aspects and points for car owners to consider when deciding on a major job like this.
Great Video. Stopped me from buying a 2011 Toyota RAV4 with the 2AR-FE engine with 160k miles on it. Research is the key when buying a used vehicle.
In my experience the 2ar is surprisingly resilient to oil burning, both parents don’t change there oil very well and both still don’t burn much oil, only about a quart every 5k miles. My mother had once not changed the oil in her 2013 for 30k miles, granted it was highway miles but still that’s an absurd amount of time to go over. That’s when the oil burning started and it still doesn’t burn too much. Try that with a 2L turbo Mercedes or Audi! I’ve also tried some oil cleaners now and will see what the results are
It’s wild to me seeing Toyota owners insist that level of consumption “isn’t that much”.
You know how much oil my Fords burn between changes?
Hint: it’s zero.
@Graymane Shadow same my 98 nissan .
@@bradwart don’t really care about your ford, for such lack of maintenance that the Toyota only burns at most a quart per oil change vs a ford where the engine likely will have been blown at that point is an obvious sign of the quality in Toyota products
@@hayden93 both of them had more miles than this Rav4, lol.
@@bradwart how old where they, cus fords newer stuff is pretty much all garbage, especially there escapes which is the direct competitor to the rav4 and the escapes are complete garbage, and most rav4s of this age are capable of well over 200k miles
this is one of the few channels that walk the talk, get this man a beer!
I almost regretted getting rid of our 2012 RAV4 about 5 years ago. Knowing about this oil burning issue, now I'm glad we did!
This video scares me. My wife bought a 2012 Rav4 2.5 with 82,000 miles on it from CarMax. The vehicle was a one owner vehicle from California. So its totally rust free. I have been doing the oil changes myself every 4-5,000 miles using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 oil and official Toyota oil filters. I have had really good luck with this oil. So far, my wife's Rav4 isn't using/burning any oil. I put roughly five quarts in and I get roughly five quarts out. When I changed the spark plugs at 100,000 miles. There wasn't any oil nor carbon build up on the spark plugs. I also changed the PCV valve (thank you AMD for your video on changing the PCV valve on the 2.5) at the same time as the spark plugs. I also serviced the transmission by dropping the trans pan and changed the filter. There was very little clutch material and metal on the magnets. The vehicle runs and drives great for its age and looks to have been well maintained. The seats have no stains nor tears and actually, the interior looks brand new. We are now at 106,000 miles without anything wrong with the vehicle. Anything we should watch out for in the future?
Very interesting to hear that they changed every 5000 miles. I was listening to David Chao talk about oil change intervals with the Nissan GTR lead engineer this week. He was recommending 3000 mile oil changes. I feel like the timing chains are almost always still good on the other engines you have rebuilt. I wonder if it overheated at some point? Thanks for the awesome content!
The GTR is an entirely different animal than a Toyota. For me 3 Lexuses at home and I always do 6 months interval, which usually equates to 4K miles.
@@jml9550 He was giving advice for all cars. Just cool info from a guy who knows a ton about engines and I was kind of surprised by the lower number. I think he was speaking in terms of making your engine last 200-400K miles. I did 5000 mile oil changes on my last Lexus and it lasted 18 years and 200k miles so no complaints from me. But I'm thinking of dropping my current Lexus to 4000 ish.
It depends. What's considered normal varies wildly. But, if you drive city, lots of stop and go, short trips then 3000 miles is good. AMD mentioned that couple of years ago.
@@briankalagher6687 good information. On our 3 Lexuses, I always do an oil change after 1k miles, then every 6 months after that. Mobil 1 and Toyota OEM filter only, no exception. Our oldest is an 08RX350 158K miles and still runs like a champ. The ‘17 ES350 just hits 38K miles and just did our 24 NX350H oil change at 1K miles last week. I will keep the 6 months intervals on all our cars.
@@ahmadghosheh3104 we do a lot of short city trips, so for our 3 Lexuses, I do an oil change every 6 months.
Always insightful and informative ,
Thank you Mr.Nut
Fantastic video and good justification for spending that much. I liked the thoroughness of this project.
Just noticed this engine was used in the TC of every gen starting back in 2004. Have seen many of those engines burn out with neglect and lack of topping oil off. My friend who did 5k intervals never had an issue with his 05 TC.
I thought the TC used the 2AZ, not the 2AR
@@WinPC99 2AZ for the first generation, then 2011 they changed to the 2AR
god bless 5w 30 motor oil and big oil control rings
Wrong, 1st gen used the 2AZ 2nd gen and 3rd used the 2AR.
Would be curious to see your thoughts on the recent gr86 engine issues on track.
Subaru engine
@@yukonstriker1703 oh yeah lmao still curious to hear his thoughts
Great video explaining and showing where the problems started
My mom still drives her 2009 Camry with this same engine.
Fortunately, it still does not leak. I’m aware of the possible problem but I’m just continuing to take care of it with regular maintenance. Still rides and drives like a dream.
Those quick lube places probably use the cheapest bulk oil they can find 😮 Even the dealerships uses bulk oil, so there's no way to know if they're cutting corners. Their main goal is to sell you a new car, not ensuring your old car lasts 200-300k miles without major repairs.
You spend the little extra on synthetic fluids, the friction in the pistons probably would not have been a problem with synthetic. I would go to a mechanic with a reputation over chain lube with low paid employees, you know you get a good job and actually get synthetic oil. You could go 5000 miles between changes if you drive enough and are better off than 2 changes of generic oil.
I would’ve liked to seen the spark plugs/know if they were the originals. Something definitely smells that this engine either overheated and/or had misfires at some point
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I currently owned only 1998 Tacoma 2.4L SR-5, but I loved your video about Toyota... honest opinions. Great video, thanks