Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+
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- Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ review and demo, including processor speed and thermal performance tests compared to the previous Raspberry Pi 3.
Note that since posting this video I have been informed by OpenMediaVault that there is a much better BananaPro image available from this link: sourceforge.net/projects/open...
If you like this video, you may enjoy some of my other single board computer reviews:
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LattePanda:
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UDOO x86 Advanced Plus:
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More videos on the Raspberry Pi and other computing-related topics can be found at: / explainingcomputers
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"It's not in an anti-static bag - that's a bit of a shock!" no pun intended? lol
Paul Feakins thats electric
a tip : you can watch movies on flixzone. Been using it for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.
@Maison Cayson Definitely, have been using Flixzone for years myself :)
Very nice vid Mr. Barnatt! I really enjoy each and every one of your vids. You are my favorite because you put humor in your vids which really makes my day. Thank you very much :)
Love the video Chris, always a pleasure to watch, i totally agree with the desires for specs at the end
I always enjoy your review's, thanks again.
Delightful video Sir. I enjoyed it very much, and I am still smiling 10 minutes later:)
Great review. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Thanks for the review.
They finally got a Metal Cap on the CPU like the Tinker Board.
Thanks for the review including straightforward tests. I don't mind the shortcomings, since nothing I'm doing gets close to those performance edges. I am, though, very pleased that the RF box has come to fruition. It frees up some board real estate as well as eliminating a bunch of certification red tape.
My birthday today + New EC video about the Pi = Pretty good start for the day.
Happy Birthday! :)
Great video Chris, always enjoy watching. :)
Good work! I enjoy the puns!
Excelent review and tests as allways. Thanks!
Another great video! Thanks yet again Chris! My kids have been running the new Pi 3B+ for a couple of weeks now and the improvements make the experience much better for them, specifically Scratch and Reading Eggs online. Like you I think it's time for USB3 and gigabit Ethernet. While I admire the ideal of a US$35 SBC I do think there is now a whole new place in the market for a new Pi at a higher price in parallel to the current Pi line, with at least 2GB RAM as well as a true 64 bit OS. We have the Pi Zero in parallel so it's not a new concept to have several models in parallel. Let's hope ....
Finally I was waiting for this review! :)
Same
Thank you for doing this video I know many of us have been pestering you for it , I know the gains they have made won't light the world on fire but they have managed to do all that at the same price .
I was in the future and zapped right back here to tell you that you were reviewing Raspberry Pi 4 =)
Thanks for this particular review. Your review is ‘spot on’ and I agree with you. Although it isn’t the Raspberry Pi 4 I wish for, I must say it is a step in the right direction. I look forward to any other videos on this SBC. The odds are pretty high that I may add it to my Pi collection. Thank you.
Perry, what would you wish for a Pi 4? In my opinion it only lacks USB3 and internal flash drive. From the OS perspective, I'd like a version of debian inmune to poweroffs. In that way, any arduino project could be improved by these boards.
I think the Pi 4 should have 2 GB memory, true 4K video and two of the four USB ports 3.0. Plus the improvements in the Pi 3B+. That would be the minimum. I would like it to have the specifications of the Rock 64 but with an added USB 3 port.
yes, true 4k is a must these days. Maybe we have luck next year with the new version!
Raul Rojas I am actually surprised that the Pi 3B was upgraded. I wasn’t expecting Pi upgrades anytime soon. I’d love to see a Pi 4 in a years time but I won’t hold my breath. I might just invest in a Pi3B+ just to support the Pi movement.
Hey there. Great run down and comparison. Thank you so much!
Great Review. Thanks Chris, I was waiting to see your take on the RbPi 3B+. Can't wait to see the videos where you will test the 3B+ with some heath sinks. I bought mine last week... they charged me a little more than 40€ but I wanted to test the new ethernet port.
Thanks for the review. Hope to get one this year
Another excellent and well put together review. Thanks.
I really hope you do a heatsink’ed comparison video in the near future. :-)
I will, I will ! :)
A great overview and review, thank you.
Because of your reviews and a lack of technological progress with the Raspberry platform I just bought an ODROID-XU4. In your comparison review you contributed the performance differences with a less developed OS. The OS is much easier to modify and will develop rapidly due to the open source concept. I therefore bought the much more powerful ODROID-XU4. Thank you and keep the content flowing!
Enjoy your ODROID-XU4 -- certainly a very good SBC for anybody with the skill and time to tinker. And I will have another ODROID video in two weeks . . .
Great review 👍👍, greetings from 🇫🇷
I love this channel so many single board computer's.
Thanks! Next Sunday I am uploading a video that features 19 SBCs in one shot! :)
And with that, my dreams of entering narnia have been shattered... Guess i'm just going to have to occupy myself by tinkering around with the new pi3b+!
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Thanks for the review, Chris, glad Stanley the Knife made an appearance :) The feature I'm hoping for in the Pi 4 is 2 Gb of DD3 memory instead of the 1 Gb of DDR2.
Very good point. 2GB on a Pi 4 -- or 4GB! -- would be really nice, and would open up new areas of application.
A 4GB Pi, I would love to see it. Please keep Stanley, Mr. Scissors and the rest of the gang in the loop...the references are funny and are part of what makes your channel special.
Hey there Chris! Great video. The comparison was needed and it's awesome to see the new specs at the old pricing too which is wonderful. But as you were saying, they will be left behind for the enthusiast crowd but as something entry level it seems its not lacking in versatility. Anyway I have sent you an email regarding my request to be on a podcast. I hope to hear from you soon. Brett.
Yet another fantastic Raspberry Pi video. I really do like the way you test these SBCs what with the bench-marking and comparison tests. I was really impressed by the thermal performance of the RPi 3B+ and I totally agree with you that I would love to see a Raspberry Pi 4 sporting true gigabyte Ethernet and USB 3, plus an upgrade to the RAM. Perhaps 2Gb?
Along with the 2 improvements you mentioned, I think a SATA interface would be very nice too but that's about it. As usual great video!
Thank You very much sir for your videos on raspberry pie. I also think that there's something genuinely charismatic in the way you speak, act etc.
Thanks.
Very tempted to buy one but im sticking with the Pi3 until Pi4 comes out, I mainly use it as a Kodi machine so it does well enough right now.
No static bag, shocking! Right!
A D Tiddyboom-tish!
agreed, they should be in the antistat bag.
A D I know
Absolutely electrifying(!)
Better shape up! - l've got chills and they are multiplying.
"it's not in a anti-stacking bag, that's abit of a shock" .. thanks for making me choke on a chip lol
rickster4k yes so dry....... Even that causes static😏
Mine came from pihut only in an anti-static bag, and a generic box
Top tip
Don't eat chips... especially when they're silicon ones! 😉
Adafruit is selling them in the box without a bag.
Great channel, very thorough analysis. Got a new subscriber.
Thanks. Welcome aboard! :)
Awesome, thanks for the benchmarks too!!! :D
Another informative video Chris. Of course yours was not out on Pi Day, it did have your comparison benchmarks and insight on whether the 3B+ is worth getting for those of us with the 3B's. "sudo apt-get install explainingcomputers" never fails... ;)
Very good comments on the B+, let's hope they can adopt some of the higher performance of the Asus Tinker board before the Tinker board gets more traction in the hobby area, The Asus Tinker board did not workout so well with my attempt to get it to work with DireWolf as a TNC for APRS. However, I did turn it into a nice desktop PC for web, email, PCB design, and many other things that work around USB ports and Linux. One thing that the Tinker board excelled at that did work for me, was when I connect a SSD drive to it, and it just took off. I opened a mkv rip of a Blueray movie and the output to my 32" Samsung HDTV was blue ray quality, I was blown away by the great detail and sharpness of the image. It was the only thing I did that got the processor a bit hot to the touch. So I got a small 12v muffin fan and ran it with 5v, and stuck it on top. The small fan in the case I had would never keep that thing as cool as I would like it. The Tinker board audio control needs some work. I can get audio to my HDTV through HDMI, but not reliably to the self powered speaker connected to a 3.5mm jack on the Tinker board. I got the audio out of the 3.5mm jack once, and it was not so good, but then it stopped and I could not get it back again. The Tinker board needs more work, and their support is terrible. It's not that they are not responsive, and polite, it is that they are either idiots, or they don't understand English. It took me 5 or 6 return emails to get them to break down the 3.5mm jack to tell me what is one each ring. It was simple enough, but it is taking way to long for that, so I am afraid to ask them a really complicated question about GPIO control, which is required for DireWolf control of PTT on the radio it controls. I never got the audio to work, so I skipped going into anything more complicated.
Thanks for sharing, this video explained alot for me.
Wow, it looks awesome in full screen!
Great review. I've just ordered one of these to replace my old 1st gen B+ which was struggling with MAME emulation.
You will see a big difference in performance!
OMG how did you do that 8 finger crossing?
I guess, that will bring the rpi4 in 2019 :)))
Again, a great video as usual.
All the best Chris!
USB 3 and Gigabit is not a deal-breaker for me; doubt it is for the vast majority of users. Kudos on the heat tests, thank you! A much bigger concern for the average user.
Thanks..... great review I Think Im waiting for "hopefully" a 2019 Pi 4 before I upgrade
Well done ! Some details on the POE interface via the HAT board may have helped, because POE seems to be another key feature with this B+
Hello Mr Barnatt, I have the latest version of Raspbian running on my 3b+ with a fan and heat sink and while running CZcams at 1080HD it maintains 34C in a room with ambient temperature of 24C. I am thrilled with the performance and cannot wait to see the new hats coming for the board.
This sounds like an excellent cooling setup. Wonderful! :)
Great video as all ways, 3b+ all ready configured to boot from usb.
Thanks for the comparison, it's not one giant leap for raspberry kind, more shuffle in the right direction
I've been using my Pi 3 B+ since I got it the day after launch day and despite the small step up I'm really pleased with it. Add an USB SSD drive and change the boot from SD card to SSD and it's a very usable desktop computer for general purpose work.
Very nice video, your videos are alway interesting and I love watching them.
Thanks. :)
Rpi 3 B+ brings us exceptionally superior quad 8-finger-crossing as well! I cannot do that yet.
I was waiting to see a video from you on this with regards to thermal performance vs the standard Pi 3, thanks for the info and that is an impressive improvement.
By the way was "It's not in a anti-static bag, that's a bit of a shock" an intended pun? :)
It actually wasn't an intended pun! My subconscious was clearly in gear when I shot this!
As usual nice video, thank you
Great video! I know this is a lot off topic from single-board computers. It would be interesting to see a 'very simplified' explanation of Big O complexity and what its significance is in computers.
I will look into this then!
Another fantastic video
looking forward to your next battle raspi 3 b+ vs asus tinker board :)
I ORDERED ONE THIS MORNING AND IT’S COMING ON MONDAY AND IM SO EXCITED I’VE JUST BEEN WATCHING VIDEOS ABOUT THE RASPBERRY PI ALL DAYYYYYYYYYYYY
HONESTLY I’M GOING BONKERS LIKE YONKERS FOR THIS THING
It sounds like you are doing to enjoy your new Pi! :) It will change you view of computing.
awesome video! you're the best
Nice upgrade!
Very informative review.... concise, to the point. Love watching your videos. Do you know of a site that shows what people have done with their Pi's?
Thank you, Chris!
I really enjoy your videos. Especially this one as I was considering getting the RPi3+ as the RPi3 that I have is too slow in performance for my tastes. So have you noticed any improvement in boot up times with the newer Raspian?
Very interesting video amd test results. How about adding USBc? 😁 I dont own either but still enjoyed watching and learning. Thank you for another well done video! Cheers! 😎
Nice video. Thank you!
Great video, I was hoping for USB 3.0 also. I'm still figuring out what parts to use to make that NAS you showed us how to build. The ROCK64 is still the best for what I want. Thanks for the information...
Now we can de-lid our Pis and replace the TIM with liquid metal!
yeah someone already did that
EDIT: its here: czcams.com/video/4LtL9e7JqxE/video.html
1024: That video was terrible to watch... The dude ripped a CAP off of the CPU PCB and didn't even notice.. I've delided a few CPU's and liquid metaled my GPU's.. But on this Pi, hell no man..
Well balanced and informative
Hey. Great video. I love your SBC stuff.
How about a test with heatsinks on both so that we can see the raw performance, minus the effects of throttling and see if the extra clock speed equates to faster completion, or if there are other factors?
Also, you could add a couple of lines to your script and it'll print out how long it takes by itself without needing a stop watch. :)
I indeed intend to do some active and passive cooling tests. On the script, for the puposes of a video an onscreen clock I think is preferable. :)
What is really needed, Chris, is DDR3 memory, even if it's only 1Gb. It was an opportunity missed, i think. Great review though, Chris...thanks!
Very good video!
I’m puzzled with Raspberry Pi power supplies. I opted for a 5v 3A because I wanted that extra .5a though I’d rather have an official one the maximum they seem to offer is 2.5A. I’ve learned the hard way that some of the cables on sale just don’t deliver the power needed to the board specially the ones with a switch on eBay.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for all these amazing tutorial videos you do. Greetings from Gibraltar 🇬🇮 🇬🇧
Thanks for telling us about the Raspian update. I don't think I'm buying the B+ just yet. I will wait..
Thanks you are very helpful. It will be nice to share also any scripts you have in the link area.
Thanks, the video looks good
WUT. THAT IS A MIG IMPROVEMENT. Can't wait for model B++ or A++ or C++ or the raspberry pi 4 model B+
@ 1:14 "it's not in an anti-static bag, that's a bit of a shock isn't it?" Hahaha
4:52 hopes of entering Narnia dashed 😔 If on offer I wouldn't have to think twice
Nice video, I concur with the feeling that a RPI4 is needed. This is kinda marking time. Overall nice improvements but need for true 1Gb net, and Sata 3.
Your explanation of the maker boards are very nice. I do however wonder what else can be done with these boards in a usable for common cunsumer market?
Was hoping the + would be a credible omv box. Maybe the Pi4. Usb3, more ram, real gig lan, durable memory, all point to a complete redesign. Real open source would be nice to. Wonder how much they can cram in for 35 clams :) There's a lot of other boards but the community and support makes me kind of whish success for the pi.
I'm gonna wait till the rpi4 is released ... 4 always is a nice number ;-) great review! I'm still puzzled why in this day and age they wouldn't make an AC adapter with just a micro-USB cable that you can exchange with the length you like.
As an engineer I receive leads, plugs, sockets and all sorts of passive components in anti-static bags. It's comforting if nothing else. It's a no brainer. I hate seeing the Raspberry Pi arrive naked in a box. That was a poor decision by someone..
Huge fan of the channel. I am working on a project to repurpose an old laptop shell to make my own RaspberryPi laptop. To get more "horsepower" I was considering using two RPi's in a cluster configuration. I have only seen people benchmark clusters by factoring prime numbers. I would like to see benchmark tests in real world desktop applications like you do when comparing SBC's. I would love it if you could make a video using a dual RPi cluster computer and run your benchmark tests to see if the gains are worth the trouble. What do you say? Thanks for the great channel!
Thanks for your positive feedback. Appreciated. Yes, I must cluster some Pis at some point! :)
Because the raspberry pi is absolutely bad at clustering since its network interface is only connected via usb2.0. Also good luck accelerating a desktop application with a cluster configuration!
id quite like to see some plex benchmarks for all of your boards (how many transcoded streams it could handle) maybe a future video???
Great video. I made the same conclusion. I rather would have seen a Rasp 4 instead. But I still like it because it's a Raspberry Pi. Have a nice day.
NicoD
I imagine the next step is to modify your Rπ3 by overclocking it and adding a large chunk of aluminum to see if it can outperform the 3+.
BTW I've been looking into the software options for programming micro controllers via ARM Linux. I know the Arduino IDE is ported over, but I've been casually looking for more advanced options. I've been learning STM8Flash on Ubuntu. I don't know if that or other options port over onto ARM Linux distros. I would like to see someone do an overview of different programming toolchains specifically for Linux and ARM Linux. The Arduino IDE is nice, but I think the future of any hobbyist IDE is centered around access to a basic debugging interface. I think we are already past the point where 32bit ARM M0's are officially displacing 8bit MCU's. Ideally I'd like to see someone explain how to get started with cheap and simple 32bit programming on an SBC platform. I've been looking into the STM discovery boards but soon realized the ST toolchain requires Windows. I'm totally over using Microsoft, or any company's product when said company tries to force me to use their products instead of building something that motivates me to want to use their products. Hopefully companies like ST, Microchip, NXP, TI and others will start designing toolchains for ARM Linux. The question I've been trying to figure out is what are all of my options for programming microcontrollers on ARM Linux and is it worth building a Rπ into a comprehensive breadboard station capable of experimentation AND programming/debugging multiple MCU's all in one?
-Jake
Thanks for the review. I think i will buy an Odroid XU4 as that has more ump the raspberry pie 3 b+ for some emu projects i want to look into. Still have 3 raspberry pies i got one for my mum one for my dad and one for me as still great pieces of kit for the money. /my parents just use os and kodi i use this rarley as have a pc. but its nice for emulators and 10 minute blast here and there.
Something that I have just realised about all the Raspberry modals is that they lack the standardised UART debug header (three pin serial interface).
I have recently been using Banana and Orange SBCs and their inclusion of a UART header has been essential for configuration purposes.
If you are comparing thermals on the Pi 3B+, perform all tests with stock heat spreader as well as after delidding the SoC. As of the delid tests, I would suggest direct heatsink on chip, Arctic Silver under the IHS and Liquid Metal under IHS tests.
Great Video ! A+++
How exciting it would be to get a review of the Lattepada Alfa and the other models in that range by Lattepanda? I understand that the Lattepanda is nowhere near the Raspberry Pi 3 B+, but I'd like to see how they perform, you know? I love your videos, been subscribed for about a year now and found out about the Lattepanda through your top 5 single board computer review. I'd get a raspberry Pi but I fell into more curiousity for the Lattepanda due to the fact that a friend of mine was saying that he liked the Lattepanda cause it had more power. lol, I'd like to see a review on the new lattepanda Alpha and other models on that scale because no one else has a review video on it, so you'd be like the first. lol, thanks and enjoy your day.
I have been promised a LattePanda Alpha when available! It will be reviewed here ASAP.
Hello Ec in 1080p! 😊
Great video! 👍🏻🎥
Again, I was enjoying it! 🎥❤️
With or without Narnia chip on Rpi 3 b+! 👍🏻😁
Although no USB 3 /Gigabit Ethernet it makes my Pi 3 obsolete. 😬
Fingers crossed for 8core, 4K HDMI as well! 🤞🏻
Bleach
🤣👍🏻
LattePanda
www.amazon.com/LattePanda-4G-64GB-Development-without/dp/B01ID4HYE4/ref=sr_1_6_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1523333718&sr=1-6-spons&keywords=lattepanda+4g%2F64gb&psc=1
LatePanda - one of my fav 👍🏻
jose gonzales The odroid is also a good alternative. But when comparing the price to a old PC, I think you may have more for your money with the old pc option.
Hi Mister Barnatt, Nice concise review. Like you, I would have preferred a Pi4, a true gigabit ethernet a USB 3 or better and to be rid of that overly frail power connector. As for the later, it is a power connector, why not just use an industry standard barrel connector? I can understand that the former would require a lot of other changes behind the scenes but I think that the results would be well worth it. Besides what Pi enthusiast wants to wait until another year?
It's a reasonable improvement on the original but still with shortcomings that you can live with but are glaring in comparison to other SBC's.
Roll on the Pi 4 and some Pi cooling projects and tests would be welcome in the future to see if the window sill, the traditional pi(e) cooling method, is beaten by a custom water loop.
Hi Christopher - thanks for this review. The new R.Pi is still great value and of course it would be unreasonable to expect all the facilities of a full scale PC at that price point.
I think I am right in saying that buying a R.Pi is the cheapest way for Joe Public to lay hands on the highly capable Wolfram / Mathematica system for computer mathematics. Do you think your audience would be interested to see you introduce this software package and some of its extensive range of capabilities? (from an enthusiastic user).
I hope also for a bootable SATA III connector and more RAM ... if there will be a v. 4.
I am not concerned about speed, but about low energy consumption. The Raspberry 3 with 5V/1A = 5W is just the kind of consumption which allows easily be powered by a cheap solar system.
Anyway, thanks to keep us updated on "ancient" hardware 😋
Thanks for sharing, I agree of your hops :-)
I will buy it today as I have ordered it I will get it hope Pi 4 is more faster with more good and better specification
Enjoy your Pi! :)
@@ExplainingComputers due to flooding in South Kerala of India I did not get it 😭can you help e in a way I have a 3b pi old one but USB ports are not working four of then what to do ??
Please reply
Yours sincerely
Anil.v
11:51 "it never throttled" Once the CPU reached 70 degrees, it did reduce the clock speed from 1.4 GHz (self-overclock) to 1.2 GHz (stock). Add vcgencmd measure_clock_arm to the bash script to see this adjustment in action.
I think I made it clear in the video that the CPU cuts back (mid throttles I guess) at 70, but (fully) throttles at about 80. :) I have posted a cooling video that looks at this in depth and Pi very cool.