Can I make my Sinclair C5 work with cheap parts from the internet?

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  • čas přidán 18. 09. 2021
  • Ive spent half the year waiting for parts for my Sinclair C5 to arrive from around the world. Do these aftermarket parts make it a hot rod or a not rod?
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  • @Carl_Thompson
    @Carl_Thompson Před 2 lety +43

    Would be a fitting memory to the genius of Sir Clive to bring this back to full working order . RIP Clive Sinclair

    • @andrewgurney6019
      @andrewgurney6019 Před 2 lety +5

      For giving me the ZX81 and Spectrum back in the back a big thank you Sir Clive, I hope you keep inventing wherever you end up.RIP

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts6530 Před 2 lety +47

    RIP Sir Clive - let’s not forget that he not only brought us affordable computing, but he was also champion of some exquisite British product design too!

  • @FixedByDuncan
    @FixedByDuncan Před 2 lety +2

    At least you gave it a go Matt, and you uploaded the footage instead of pretending everything is rosy.
    Life isn't all peaches and cream, that's why I enjoy watching you. 👍🏻
    Was very sad to hear about Sir Clive, an amazing chap that was well ahead of his time.

  • @linseyyoung1772
    @linseyyoung1772 Před 2 lety +4

    Heh, loving the petrol can as axle stand!
    RIP Clive - we'll never see his like again.

  • @RichieRouge206
    @RichieRouge206 Před 2 lety +3

    Keep going with it fella, you will get there - definitely worth pursuing with this one! It’s so simple that you would definitely overcome the issues.

  • @petermac79
    @petermac79 Před 2 lety +17

    Clive was ahead of his time!

    • @movesky6696
      @movesky6696 Před 2 lety

      cost of c5 at time £399

    • @neilchapman5145
      @neilchapman5145 Před rokem

      The oil companies made the U.K. government put massive restrictions on the c5 just like they did with the royal Enfield electric car

  • @stevehill4615
    @stevehill4615 Před 2 lety +1

    Oh Matt, what a card you are, best bit of the video was when you raised the back end of the C5 for safety whilst testing the electrics ON A PETROL CAN what could possibly go wrong ----- LOL

  • @keithmatthews1673
    @keithmatthews1673 Před 2 lety +9

    I would have thought that bench testing the electrical setup would be the way to do such a project but if you have to get out a video at short notice needs must!

  • @6ettinold
    @6ettinold Před 2 lety +1

    Your kit is essentially the same thing used on some ebike conversions, I've fitted several of these. Assuming you've installed ( or the kit included one in the loom ) an inline fuse holder, I hope you haven't performed the same daft error I have on a couple occasions and forgotten to pop a fuse in.
    The controller will have a low voltage cut out at around 29-30v, so with any luck, your battery just needs a charge. The throttle LED display is obviously wired into your controller, so that won't work either 'til the battery is charged. Here's hoping you've sussed it out already🤞

  • @CUSTODIAN70
    @CUSTODIAN70 Před 2 lety +1

    Trying is not failure.This time it didn't work out,but,maybe in the near future,some proper parts will show up.Great video,as always.

  • @stevemayandleilaroehead870

    Great video, looking forward to seeing how it's going :)

  • @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain

    Rip Sir Clive, good to see the C5 back out again and I have faith in you getting this up and running.

  • @kins749
    @kins749 Před 2 lety +5

    Please please finish this project as a tribute to the great man

  • @doktoruzo
    @doktoruzo Před 2 lety +1

    oh Matt...had me laughing out loud. God loves a trier.
    Respect for having a go. I am sure you will figure a way to get it to work. Please don't give up. It makes for entertaining video.

  • @Parknest
    @Parknest Před 2 lety

    The late great Sir Clive was ahead of his time. I used to have a 48K ZX Spectrum back in the 1980s. I still have Spectrum +2A which I featured on my channel. These days I get my Speccy fix with an emulator.

  • @seancooke7332
    @seancooke7332 Před 2 lety

    Onwards and upwards my Friend. Looks very cool with the new stickers.

  • @adamtoms2726
    @adamtoms2726 Před 2 lety +2

    To be honest this has still given you less trouble than Quentin, and you conquered that, so I do hope you get time and find a way to bring the C5 into life. Sir Clive was about 30 years too early. Now that battery tech has improved massively perhaps this would be a better answer than those E Scooters being tried in some cities in the UK right now.

  • @daniellee9015
    @daniellee9015 Před 2 lety

    Brilliant video Matt 👍

  • @robenglish416
    @robenglish416 Před 2 lety +3

    I think Sinclair was a little bit before his time! With modern components the C5 would be quite interesting!

  • @leecooper8589
    @leecooper8589 Před 2 lety +4

    I wonder if in his later years, Sir Clive Sinclair ever looked at modern electric bikes and the batteries, controllers and motors they use and thought the C5 was just TOO ahead of it's time. Neither the tech nor the market was ready in the mid 1980s

    • @antibrevity
      @antibrevity Před 2 lety

      Well, the X-1 was in perpetual development, so he was definitely still interested.
      czcams.com/video/818kI1h3KyQ/video.html
      Search for Sinclair X-1 on the web and there are some articles.

    • @kyle8952
      @kyle8952 Před 2 lety

      There was much better technology avaliable than he used. The problem was he was trying to make something out of bicycle bits, but didn't understand them, so spent an absolute fortune doing daft stuff like a plastic front wheel and matching brake pads for a cheap brake, when an ordinary aluminium wheel and some better brakes would have cost less money and worked better.

  • @planestrainsdogsncars4336

    Good going Matt..you seem to be further along with this project than the Hyperloop will ever be. Probably similar engineering concepts too.

  • @Theaveragenerd2000
    @Theaveragenerd2000 Před 2 lety +1

    If it's a 36V system and you have to 18V nominal batteries you'd need to wire them in series (you'd need to check that the BMS boards would be happy with that though!). You'd also have to find a new charger, unless you remove both batteries and charge them separately.

  • @andyarmstrong1493
    @andyarmstrong1493 Před 2 lety

    Well timed and enjoyable.

  • @Ribeirasacra
    @Ribeirasacra Před 2 lety +1

    The Dutch plate ZK-01-PF come from a Alfa Romeo 33 1.7 which was scrapped on the 13-9-2003.

  • @sunderland97
    @sunderland97 Před 2 lety +3

    R.I.P SIR Clive genius at the end of the day way ahead of his time R.I.P GENIUS

  • @henntendo
    @henntendo Před 2 lety +5

    RIP Mr Sinclair.

  • @johngrubb1590
    @johngrubb1590 Před 2 lety

    I have no doubt you will get there Matt, just keep plodding on my friend. 👍

  • @srowell3
    @srowell3 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey. You need to think about gearing. The original motor and gearbox gets down to 13:1 and you're going to be nowhere near that just using two pulleys. The left side wheel should be connected to the plate behind it, the star washer on its own is not enough to keep it al together. If you take the right or front wheel out do not lose the bearings as they are unique to the c5.

  • @maxidyne
    @maxidyne Před 2 lety

    Hope you get it running in the future! Never give up. R.I.P. Sir Clive.

  • @louisboshoff9142
    @louisboshoff9142 Před 2 lety

    Don't give up yet Matt. You have spent too much time/money on it already and I am sure it can be sorted without spending much more. In South Africe we never had these, I would love to see it working!

  • @freddieparrydrums
    @freddieparrydrums Před 2 lety

    I am 14 and I’d love to buy one of these. They’ll go up in value definitely

  • @dylandajhharwood5566
    @dylandajhharwood5566 Před 2 lety

    I'd make a box or X shaped bracket behind the rear axel for the motor and negate the pedals entirely all while using a smaller chain or swapping for a custom sized belt.

  • @stephenwestley1017
    @stephenwestley1017 Před 2 lety +1

    I can't wait to see it itl be a tribute to the great man.

  • @35dononeill
    @35dononeill Před 2 lety

    What if you found a metal tube, and cut a piece of it to length, would that work? Bicycle frame perhaps

  • @another3997
    @another3997 Před 2 lety +1

    You might be able to source a suitable rear axle from an old tricyle, something like a scrap Pashley. You may even be able to adapt the rear subframe of the trike to fit the motor in the C5. It will be stronger and more reliable than the old Sinclair setup. 😉

  • @paulie-Gualtieri.
    @paulie-Gualtieri. Před 2 lety +3

    Still have a Sinclair Cambridge calculator somewhere.

  • @frothe42
    @frothe42 Před 2 lety +1

    Appropriate since Sir Clive's death this past week.
    I have faith in you that you will get this working!

  • @iantheinventor8151
    @iantheinventor8151 Před rokem

    Been wondering if a midmount pedal assist motor might fit 🤔

  • @Uniongamers
    @Uniongamers Před 2 lety

    I think it's fair to say that the home computing scene in the UK wouldn't have been same without Sir Clive. We will remember you.

  • @MrCrofty1993
    @MrCrofty1993 Před 2 lety

    You should have gone with a front hub motor wheel it would save building brackets

  • @robertfoster6070
    @robertfoster6070 Před 2 lety

    Have you ever considered using a PEBL bike from the states? It is classified as an ebike and does not require a drivers license.

  • @microcamping9025
    @microcamping9025 Před rokem

    I would like to order a bafang mitteo motor, it starts from 68mm. I'm going to buy a Sinclair C5 in a week

  • @Boemel
    @Boemel Před 2 lety

    get a 12" hub motor, so easy. and u can even reverse. no welding, no faffing about just replace it with the front wheel and done.

  • @kevinnye5132
    @kevinnye5132 Před 2 lety +1

    Our loss is heaven’s gain and Sir Clive will be whizzing around for an eternity with no double decker buses or HGVs to scare the life out of him 😉. Who knew Matt 🤔 G clamps actually CLAMP 😮, don’t give up Matt on the C5 🙏🏻 at least until you’ve squandered all your money like Sir Clive did 😁👍🏻.

  • @deanwebb4809
    @deanwebb4809 Před 2 lety +2

    Have you seen the rover 216 cab / pick up on auto trader £950 looks cool

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, id want it as a full drop till pick up though

  • @nickmoore2301
    @nickmoore2301 Před 2 lety +1

    Alfa looking good in the background 👍😁

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety

      That never fails to look good!

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 2 lety

      @@furiousdriving Yes, but it's an Alfa, so like the Sinclair C5, it will never be the most reliable... despite the millions of pounds spent on development! At least Sir Clive had the excuse his vehicle was done on a shoestring budget. 😉

  • @problemchild1976
    @problemchild1976 Před 2 lety

    Did you get it working?

  • @alansimpson835
    @alansimpson835 Před 2 lety

    At least the nice ornament has shiny new stickers

  • @eliotmansfield
    @eliotmansfield Před 2 lety +1

    two things spring to mind - is the throttle compatible with the controller and have you disabled the brake lever input which is normally closed and it will think you have the brake on and not run the motor

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety

      Yes, they are sold as a kit, there was no mention of closing the brake loop with it, worth a try

    • @benholroyd5221
      @benholroyd5221 Před 2 lety +1

      There's also the 'power lock' that was rejected because it doesn't have doors. I assume though that needs to connect to the key ignition.
      That would explain the screen not working.

  • @OggyGTA
    @OggyGTA Před 2 lety +1

    My spidey senses are telling me... chain drive bad, direct drive good!

  • @springy-2112
    @springy-2112 Před 2 lety +3

    Sad news about Sir Clive Sinclair ..
    I'm no chain n sprocket expert but I imagine the chain needs to be at least half wrapped around the drive gear or it will slip off ?
    Peace and love brother 👍🏻☮❤

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety +1

      if its pushed up into it, it should have enough pressure

    • @springy-2112
      @springy-2112 Před 2 lety

      @@furiousdriving
      good stuff , great project
      👍🏻☮❤

  • @cookiepopps5673
    @cookiepopps5673 Před 2 lety

    I remember these so well from my childhood and always wanted one I think the main prob was that we were not to informed about climate change then and we taught petrol was a never ending source of power I so badly want one now but prices are crazy

  • @skimmingstoness
    @skimmingstoness Před 2 lety

    I had three of them, used to be able to pick them up for £50 I paid 30 for one. Great idea but terrible marketing. They were a death trap on a public road but if he'd marketed them for use as modes of transport on holiday parks, uni campuses and business parks he'd have sold loads more but he sold them for people to commute to the train station and they risked their lives every time they took it out.

  • @srowell3
    @srowell3 Před 2 lety

    Have you got any history of this C5? Fairly sure I have a matching one with the Hilliards service branding.

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety +1

      It was owned by Alfa dealer Hilliards but every one hated it! Was told it was a courtesy vehicle but an ex mechanic messaged to say it was the MDs toy but he only drove it once, then it was fixed to the roof!

    • @srowell3
      @srowell3 Před 2 lety

      @@furiousdriving nice. Still got it? Stories make everything better!

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety

      @@srowell3 yes, it’s in the barn!

    • @srowell3
      @srowell3 Před 2 lety

      @@furiousdriving still in that barn? :D

  • @888johnmac
    @888johnmac Před 2 lety

    spooky .. when i heard of Sir Clives death , i wondered about FD's C5 .. and here it is

  • @CathodeRayNipplez
    @CathodeRayNipplez Před 2 lety +1

    Will still pass latest Euro emissions.
    Crash test maybe not so much...

  • @DashCamSerbia
    @DashCamSerbia Před 2 lety

    36V li-ion pack? That is 10 in series. So 18V is only 1.8V per cell, which is severely drained. They should not go bellow 2.8V or so. They can stil be charged probablly, but the question is will the charger start charging them at such low voltage, or will you need to do it manually (using an adjustable PSU).

  • @LOTPOR0402
    @LOTPOR0402 Před 2 lety +3

    Rip Clive

  • @user-xd9yo3le7o
    @user-xd9yo3le7o Před 2 lety

    Knowing Matt, he'll get it going eventually.

  • @huwdavies6650
    @huwdavies6650 Před 2 lety +1

    A fitting tribute to Sir Clive.

  • @stephencresswell4760
    @stephencresswell4760 Před 2 lety +1

    Was that a reverse thread by any chance? Maybe use hand tools..........

  • @h3lsing0
    @h3lsing0 Před 2 lety

    Give Andy Kirby a shout, he'll put a phaserunner in it.

  • @repairupdaterepeat5815
    @repairupdaterepeat5815 Před 2 lety +2

    If you keep the pedals you can drive it on the road with no insurance etc because its classed as cycle. Ditch the peddles you're supposed to send it for an sva....
    Rip sir Clive..... if you get the chance to want bbc's "micro men" its well worth a watch.

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety +2

      Good point, the pedals stay (no one specifies the chain being there do they?)

    • @repairupdaterepeat5815
      @repairupdaterepeat5815 Před 2 lety +1

      @@furiousdriving officer dibble might. Be worth getting some big stickers to put on the controller and motor saying "250w" last thing you need is getting it crushed. There should be a connector that loops to restrict the power output in case you get pulled. If it was me, I'd direct drive the sucker and see if you can get a gear blank you can use as a spacer on that back wheel. The shorter the chain the less chance of it whipping off, busting through the 40 year old plastic seat and chopping one of your Jacobs off

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety

      @@repairupdaterepeat5815 Im also thinking a direct or short belt drive might be easier, but had ben planning a drag racing style safety sheet of metal under the seat!

    • @repairupdaterepeat5815
      @repairupdaterepeat5815 Před 2 lety

      @@furiousdriving could look at v belts and pulleys for small lathes and drill presses? Cheap as chips and handle lots of torque.
      Lol last thing you need is having the nickname "womble" for the rest of your life

  • @jasonk7072
    @jasonk7072 Před 2 lety

    Perhaps you might find it easier to get all the electrical stuff working on the kitchen table before labelling it up and working out how to install it all?

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety

      the hardest part is making the motor actually fit somewhere

  • @mrcogginsgarage7062
    @mrcogginsgarage7062 Před 2 lety

    Matt, Number Five requires further Input by the looks of it ,good luck.

  • @Neil2022
    @Neil2022 Před 2 lety +1

    Was anything considered here or was it all on the hoof🤣

  • @johndilloway9762
    @johndilloway9762 Před 2 lety

    Put a nut on a back wheel and use your rechargeable wrench in your hand, then you can have reverse as well. :>)

  • @Rogerjones44194
    @Rogerjones44194 Před 2 lety +2

    C5 !

  • @Turnbull50
    @Turnbull50 Před 2 lety

    Great video sad news about Clive Sinclair.

  • @stevetaylor8698
    @stevetaylor8698 Před 2 lety

    Did you used to work for British Leyland?

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety +1

      I applied but felt my quality control standards would slow the production line

  • @rimmersbryggeri
    @rimmersbryggeri Před 2 lety

    That wasnt the MacGyver theme Matt. :P

  • @robertlewis2
    @robertlewis2 Před 2 lety

    Time to buy a small lathe to bore out the motor gear to size.

  • @tz6414
    @tz6414 Před 2 lety

    Without working pedals it probably becomes illegal to use on the road or pavement.

  • @BigEpinstriping
    @BigEpinstriping Před 2 lety

    Would be easier to swap a mid-drive motor into the chassis, In my opinion. RIP Sir Clive.

  • @tonys1636
    @tonys1636 Před 2 lety

    Sir Clive is probably looking down on you laughing his socks off at some eejit trying to get a C5 up and running again and attempting mods to it.

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety

      I hope he'd appreciate it! After all the Spectrums were hugely customisable through the expansion port

  • @neilmustow368
    @neilmustow368 Před 2 lety

    R.I.P Sir Clive Sinclair

  • @skyll4141
    @skyll4141 Před 9 dny

    Don't give up

  • @planestrainsdogsncars4336

    Oh ..it has a light?..was this designed to work when it was dark?..lol

  • @stuarthall2180
    @stuarthall2180 Před 2 lety

    Any reason you've recently been hiding the Mercs number plate ? Just being nosey 😯

  • @SiAnon
    @SiAnon Před 2 lety

    Best place for all of it would be the local tip. Those things didn't sell well for a reason.

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety +1

      they were just ahead of their time

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 2 lety

      I'm willing to bet that plenty of people would want this if Mr FD decided to give up, including me. They're rare nowadays. The reasons they didn't sell aren't just technological, people assumed it was automatically dangerous on the road. As the rider of an even lower, unfaired recumbent trike, I can vouch that drivers not only see me, but treat me with far more respect than when I'm on a bicycle.

  • @AndyDento21
    @AndyDento21 Před 2 lety

    It's a left hand thread!!!! 🤣 noooooooooooo
    RIP Mr Sinclair

  • @traleyton8057
    @traleyton8057 Před 2 lety

    Brave Man - how not to approach a restoration.

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk Před 2 lety +1

    Damn was hoping to see it move dodgy china electronics

  • @andrewgurney6019
    @andrewgurney6019 Před 2 lety +2

    Please turn off the autofocus in the camera!

  • @robc5955
    @robc5955 Před 2 lety +1

    Please oil the chain my ocd is tripping badly 🙄

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety +1

      I did say I have a new one

    • @robc5955
      @robc5955 Před 2 lety

      @@furiousdriving I know, just makes me itch.

  • @marfster2914
    @marfster2914 Před 2 lety +1

    I really like your video's and I enjoy everyone of them. But you have to shut off the autofocus on your camera. It's always focused on the wrong section of the video.

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety

      theres supposed to be a big firmware update coming but all of the cameras struggled when no one is behind it controlling what it does, even Sony

    • @marfster2914
      @marfster2914 Před 2 lety

      You are the first CZcamsr how's answering to one of my comments. It's like talking to a celebrity. Greetings from Bavaria. 🙂🙂

  • @terryatkinson3182
    @terryatkinson3182 Před 2 lety +1

    Lucky you, being able to play with your grinder and welder. I've just had a nasty neighbour shouting at me for making noise in my shed. It was a she or I would have invited him over for a CHAT👊. I'm not the only one who has had a run in with this creature who seems to have nothing better to do ( hasn't worked in years)

    • @linseyyoung1772
      @linseyyoung1772 Před 2 lety +1

      Keep grinding. Smile and yell back good naturedly that you can't make out what she's saying over the noise of your tools.

  • @nigelrudd670
    @nigelrudd670 Před 2 lety

    Furious 😠 Clive rides again 🤓

  • @mikeg8835
    @mikeg8835 Před 2 lety

    You rush too much Matt , things end up getting lashed up

  • @1worldgaming18
    @1worldgaming18 Před 2 lety

    a technological dead end that c5 , i mean just look at electric assisted bycycles today :)

  • @alancampbell1008
    @alancampbell1008 Před 2 lety

    There must be a forum where someone has modified/restored one of these. While it might be plagiarism why not just copy? I know it's maybe not in the spirit of the wild eyed experimental suck it and see approach but then at least it would work and you could modify it from there. Fair play for giving it a bash in your inimitable Heath Robinson style 😂

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety

      There are a some modded ones but all different, so bring on the Heath!

    • @alancampbell1008
      @alancampbell1008 Před 2 lety

      @@furiousdriving just watched a genius who has fitted his with a hybrid gas turbine electric system...mad as a box of frogs!

  • @brownbag1465
    @brownbag1465 Před 2 lety

    it was made from cheap parts

  • @trabali5168
    @trabali5168 Před 2 lety

    sir clive sinclair would be......................not sure really?!!

  • @terrortorn
    @terrortorn Před 2 lety +2

    Just concentrate on getting the pedals to work first and then buy reasonable parts not direct from China.

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Před 2 lety +1

      it might lose the pedals entirely

    • @terrortorn
      @terrortorn Před 2 lety

      @@furiousdriving Raises handbag to eyelevel in shock and horror.

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool Před 2 lety

    Electronic? Yeah, me neither.

  • @paultaylor9652
    @paultaylor9652 Před 2 lety

    You are British, try try and try again, then give up and throw it in a skip. No only joking, hope you have better luck next time Mat.

  • @sirog68
    @sirog68 Před 2 lety

    Facepalm

  • @FourDollaRacing
    @FourDollaRacing Před 2 lety

    My god, this is painful to watch! The welds are shite, the parts are incompatible, and a new motor would rattle the thing to pieces...

  • @billybellend1155
    @billybellend1155 Před 2 lety

    Have you thought about giving up your cars and becoming vegan?

  • @PaulinesPastimes
    @PaulinesPastimes Před 2 lety

    You know I have enjoyed your videos for ages but honestly, do we take this seriously? I feel slightly exploited.