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Gun Industry Drama: Lying to SCAM Sell Helmets
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- Tactic Helmet is a sizeable retailer of mid-to-low grade tactical gear. They have been caught spoofing data to enhance the image of their trash-tier products in an effort to fleece unsuspecting consumers. This story was first broke by Student of the Gun. Lying is not marketing and lying to market is an unacceptable business practice. Excommunicado
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Boycotting crappy products is not cancel culture.
If they are lying about NIJ certs, they are lying about other things.
Exactly
Providing false NIJ certification is falsification of government documentation.
Pretty sure that it isn't worth lying about NIJ certs, because you're gonna open yourself to liabilities that are much much more expensive than any money you'd make out of said product
@@wolfsworkshop9095It isn't. Remember, greed doesn't care about morality.
Nij dosnt certify anything. If they say it nij certified it's BS
It's not the licensed product China agrees to make, it's when they rip off your manufacturing idea and use cheaper material and call it the same or comparable.
It absolutely is not cancel culture, it's consumer awareness, and it should be the forefront of this industry.
See, this is why the Guntuber industry isn't super trusted... if this can slip through, imagine what else has. (Thanks for bringing attention to this!)
People have been selling out since the dawn of time, don’t act surprised…
Exploding flashlights, sig rifles, psa jakl… there are only a few channels I trust for information, the rest I watch as entertaining commercials
Bro... I don't even do reviews anymore it's so bad.
In fact, I turned to forensics to bust these aholes, and I am about to break a HUGE scandal involving LPVO,
and several companies lying about their magnification.
[It doesn't matter how many know, it's still very illegal to lie about specs]
@@m4rvinmartianspill them beans about the lpvo owo
@@wolfsworkshop9095 It's obvious that you shouldn't trust any of the Chinesium LPVO, but there is a set of companies that claim variously to be U.S. companies, but buy all overseas materials and assemble here. The manufacture of the materials is the substantial part of the cost, not the assembly labor.
*That said... avoid SwampFox particularly. The max magnification is one number less than advertised. 10x is 9, 6x is 5, etc. The 5x non variable is 4x.*
You can test it yourself, just use a camera with a focal length equal to eyesight. Put the LPVO (or any optic) on a tripod or solid area. Put a target as far as you can get to 50 yards. A 2 foot target is great. Take a picture of the target (at distance), then take a picture again through the LPVO. Magnification is straight up as it sounds... use Photoshop or similar and stack the unmagnified picture of the target, on the image of the target taken through the LPVO.
If it's a 10x, you'll have 10x small targets stack in ANY direction... horizontal, vert, diagonal.
If it's a Swampfox, it'll only be 9 targets wide.
That's straight up fraud.
They'll be chatting with me about it in court. I'm tired of all the scams and lies.
Ballistic helmets and body armor are not something to skimp on.
Personally I only use bump helmets because I’m not shooting anything with nods that has a gun.
Same. A quality bump helmet isn't that expensive either.
U can buy military surplus mich helmets
@@Blackstar-yd3yfthats what i was gonna try to get.
@@LethalMayo good choice. High cuts are overrated. Only good for medics or radioman anyway
I got a protech delta 4 ACH helmet for $120 from a surplus store. Got it registered with safariland and I'm thinking of modding it. It's plain atm, but I'm trying to figure out how to add a mount for nods.@@Blackstar-yd3yf
The stairs behind you look steep AF 😱
its a loft
I thought the same thing!! 😆
LOL
Those aren’t stairs, that’s a fuckin ladder!
I've been around stairs that steep a couple of times and hated them!. They were in a friends house and they were also witches stairs. I felt like sleepy joe trying to go up them the first couple of times and trying to leave was like an optical illusion. Any other stairs as a kid you just run up and down them without care. THOSE THINGS were like an obstacle course!😂
My Samsung Galaxy was made in South Korea. I try not to buy Made in China products whenever possible. Too many bad experiences outweighing too few good ones.
Made in South Korea with Chinese components, like any other electronics made outside China.
@@lance9150 Like I said, I try not to. Will probably switch to an HTC next.
@stephenarmstrong7354 well they'll still use Chinese electrical components like circuit boards. Only one company in the US makes electrical components small enough for phones..... and it's for military equipment
Ping ping made my nod mount granted I do have an extra retention lanyard
The hand sets for DoD comms are made in China @@terrybailey9621
I saw that ad on FB a year or so ago. I rolled my eyes at the "Level IV" and assumed it was standard Chinese junk sellers trying to offload a bunch of airsoft replica helmets. Knowing this makes it worse. Much worse.
Everyone wants a super cool helmet and settled for something substandard.
And surplus ACHs are $100 if you look hard enough. It should be a no brainer.
Nah it's gotta look like some shit from starship troopers and have the abilities to link to a imaginary satellite to give me real time data of the battle space stop trying to be practical 😐
@@ClintonBeaver-dc4mj 🤣🤣
@@ClintonBeaver-dc4mjya what he said practicality is gay.
@@radek3514 I ain't reading all that I'm grilling some pork chops
I went and got CVC dh 132b for 300 built, good helmet runs a bit big tho
Back in the military, they made it clear that even a proper kevlar helmet will not save you from a direct head shot. Only a glancing shot at an angle is survivable. You can show me the best helmet "made in the U.S of A", and I'll still keep my head down in the face of a 7.62 round.
Point is, I wouldn't trust a helmet designed and adopted from the military, let alone ever trusting a company targeting the civilian market, using Call of Duty market slangs.
Some of us absolutely do not know how to "research" a subject on the internet. Knowing where to find TRUSTWORTHY information is extremely difficult.
The worst part is that people don't even realize they need to be skeptical about everything they hear and see nowadays these people are walking around the world watching the news as if it's true not knowing that they would ever lie😂😂its CRAZY
The fellow that figures out how to stop internet scams will be richer that any scammer could hope to be. There is ZERO interest on the part of social media to stop these scammers and their advertising dollars to these platforms.
I appreciate this kind of video for two reasons:
#1: I'm new into the gun space, therefore I don't know much in regards to armor, much less helmets.
#2: I was planning on buying a helmet that I could use for range days since I'm in the military and I wanted to get one for my own comfort, plus I wanted one that could have attachment points for ear protection and some rails for lights and stuff.
I will have to do further research, but this bit of insight does help in weeding out the bullshit
There are more than one of these companies that all use the same web page setup. I believe that they're all owned by one business. I've seen a test done on one of their so-called lvl 4 helmets and it failed after a .22 lr was fired into it.
That one business is the CCP. I dont trust anything from there. I realize that there are some good products. And the prices are affordable to the average Joe. But, communist China is still Communist China.
There is an NIJ helmet standard but it's from the 80's and defunct. It's NIJ 0104.02. You can have a lab test to that standard but NIJ is not handing out certifications for it nor do they maintain a helmet CPL. Even reputable helmet companies will say they meet NIJ standards and in the fine print it will say tested to 0104.02.
Unexceptable! Especially with protective gear! Thx for the warning!
PSA’s website was notorious for not having its facts right on their own products. The early release of the KS47 was a trainwreck! The website was selling the parts and had no idea what was and wasn’t compatible with other ar15 products. The bcgs, barrels, and lower receivers all had compatibility information that was completely wrong. The perfect example of different departments in the same company having no idea what the other knows or is doing.
Clickbait and trash business practices are wrong and we should have no qualms about calling in out.
NAME AND SHAME!!!!
I bought what I thought was a quality FAST-style bump helmet with safety certification from Chase Tactical, who claimed to produce the helmet in house. The helmet itself seemed like cheap plastic when it arrived, and had no writing or certification stamps anywhere, and I had to heavily modify it to make it comfortable and safer. I eventually figured out that it appeared to pretty much be a repackaged FMA FAST helmet that is available on Amazon for a fraction of the price.
Everytime i go to buy anything they say its not allowed to export. But those same items are built overseas
I literally just started looking at helmets and I'm glad I saw this.
STG still thinks Frog Lube is great stuff....that calls in question their credibility.
its great for knives. not so much for guns.
@@ForgottenRebel77 It's an industry standard commodity lube bought by the drum marked up to a truly absurd level and sold by the ml.
@@billdberger7407 fair enough but i have like 50 of the free packets i got from Toor knives so i didnt pay shit for it.
@@billdberger7407 it gums up super bad, is not viscous enough for reciprocating parts. i liked it back in 2010, but by 2011 i was back to safariland CLP.
What I learned about someone who spent 5 years in China is this... Chinese will make what you want according to the standards you set. We as Americans don't know that. It's why Smithfield is still producing the products with the same quality as when the Smithfield family owned it. Quality is based on the standard set by the owner.
I bought a Chinese helmet, less than a hundo shipped, it said it was certified. Never for a second did I ever believe it had any ballistic protection…. It’s an accessory holder. Maybe some day I’ll shell out the cash on something with true ballistic protection but this works for now
I was close to ordering a helmet from them, but it seemed sketchy. Glad I trusted my gut.
PGD makes decent helmets for a good price. Bulgarian Kevlar made, pressed in Denmark.
I picked up a PGD helmet about a month ago and so far I'm impressed. The only thing I can compare it to would be my old army issued helmet and it blows that thing away in terms of weight and comfort. For the price it's fantastic
I plan on ordering one once they’re done with their summer break. I’m set on a full cut and with HHV not offering a US made one I’m going with PGD
Denmark is the name of the chinaman that made it.
What is PGD? is that the name of the distributor, or is it an abbreviation for something? I'd like to get a good helmet, but i don't have any experience or info about that type of gear. I don't want to have to buy it twice, cuz the first buy was a mistake. There's so much misleading marketing, it is difficult for someone to get quality, who doesn't have a huge knowledge about them.
@@grantroper2511 it's an abbreviation, stands for Protection Group Denmark.
I bought a WW1 Adrian helmet recently, with the Belgian lion on it. It won’t fit ear phones for comms or attach NVGs, but it actually fits well, and in a pinch, it’ll do
Great video! Thank you for saying what everyone else won’t!
Someone should send that to NIJ to see what they think of the standard of threat testing being misused
I bought an ACH/ECH from them. I didn't know what I was really getting myself into when I bought it but after finding out I got scammed, I only go with legitimate companies.
I just stole a helmet from my last command instead 🥰
So,why is there not a way to take down a business that's being so dishonest with safety products?
Really messed up how they lie to the public
Many Thanks,Curt !
You just earned a subscription sir. I'm really tired of dishonest youtubers in general. Especially in the gun community.
You are more knowledgeable than me on shit like this and well you ain't given me bad information yet so I believe you.
I went with HighCom Striker RCH ballistics helmet. I had great experience with the HighCom and their reseller sales teams; OpsCore - not so much, and their lead time was over a year.
glad I had my ACH cut down , tested the ears that were removed and they took a 40S&W at 3 feet with no pass through
*Here's how bad YT censorship is.*
*I'm literally in the industry and I've never heard of this channel.*
I have hundreds of gun chans in my subs, and YT STILL never suggested this channel.
*You need to run keywords my brother.*
It shouldn’t be about just making a product good enough. We as Americans should try our best to support American manufacturing. If you do not, you have no right to complain about companies sending jobs overseas.
I got linked to that website this mornng before seeing this....started looking at their testing data sheets they said was for each different set of helmets. They kept using the same 2 for all of the helmets....they sent 1 aramid woven fiber helmet in and another time sent 2 aramid woven fiber helmets in..these test sheets were on the PE helmets as well as the "Level IV" helmets....I bounced at that point
I've got a HHV balistic helmet. Veteran owned. Love it. It was half the price of Team BJ and 100% as good. Added ops core amp arms to swap out Gucci ear pro and a G24 mount to dispatch night looters during the apocalypse.
Chinesium helmet
Not as good. It's a China scam also
I agree, fight fire with fire. Never heard of this company but thanks for making us folks aware.
I don't use i phone as i find them substandard. I also generally avoid Chinese products as they are substandard more often than not.
I’ve gotten a set of plates and a helmet from Hoplite Armor. They also sent a UN target with my plates. I think they’re pretty good, if anyone has had any bad experiences with them though feel free to let me know though.
Thanks for the heads up!!!
Get a surplus ACH or LWH, send it off for high cut mod, get the rails and whatever you want and call it a day. Cheapest way for a quality ballistic helmet
I have an HHV and i like it
OpsCore for the win!
Didn't HHV source their materials in the US, and assemble them in China? They claimed they QA-QCed them in the US before shipping the helmets out. People gave them a bunch of crap for the manufacturing process. Now the helmets cost more because they're made here lol.
@@kooldoor69 yea people tried saying they was lying but had it listed in the description. I got my HHV and seems the same as the high cut we had in V1/2. It just seems like most people are “if it not made in America it’s trash” but own 90% of shit made in china 🤷🏽♂️
According to their website, they claim their helmet can stop 9mm/44 mag at 1400 fps
So, would you feel comfortable flying down the interstate on Chinese manufactured tires in a Chinese made car?
You said theres no Nij standard for helmets, i thought they have NILECJ-STD-0106.00 but it has never been updated since like the 80s or 90s because they're too lazy or its too difficult to measure protection ratings for head protection?
Ar500 armor or known as armed republic has 2 pistol rated ballistic helmets up to 44 magnum for sale. one for $279 and an upgraded version for $999. I'm sure they're going to be coming out with a level 3 rated helmet here soon
South korean goods. The $ goes to defense forces and couruption in the CCP.
I bought one just to see. It is not level 4. It is quality and a solid helmet but it is just kevlar. Better than a bump helmet. I called them out online.
world class content
such a savior
Cancel culture is specifically when you try to get people run out of business/public office/society for holding views that you disagree with but are not illegal, or relevant to the job. Running fraudulent businesses out of the market is not only objectively not cancel culture, but it's standard practice for ethical capitalism.
Thanks for the heads up. No pun intended.
Don’t buy MFT magazines they are terrible quality
- Somehow direct shipping from China has become stupid cheap (Temu in particular, but products sold on Amazon as well) and I'm guessing it would take anyone less than a week to get in touch with a Chinese manufacturer that already has some variety of helmet spec and sell them direct-shipped under your own brand. The manufacturer does not care what you market the product as. After a few hundred sales and dozens of complaints, close shop and skip town. Hard to get your money back from an LLC that no longer exists, or was never registered in the U.S. in the first place.
No need to " burn it down ", just don't buy their products and pass along the information Caveat Emptor.
Made in China and missed specification, perhaps the good material was used for their military. The random specification design altered to look legit maybe.
I have a boat load of screen shots that I had to send to make bank for a claim from them because they never sent my helmet and refused to answer any questions about how they have nij certs. From my understanding they also never got back to navy fed and ended up sending the helmet and my bank got my money back. They then never sent me anything to send the helmet back 🤷🏽♂️ so now my 3yo has a black high cut from tachelmet 😂
I purchased guard dog body armor from classic firearms. I’ve been interested in their ballistic helmets but not sure if I should go with any other brands
@@jonathancamp5149 same. . I love GD helmet
I suppose companies don't expect you to get shot in the head. Still very misleading for an Airsoft/LARP helmet.
Does anyone know anything about Hard Head Veterans helmets?
Keep fighting the good fight
Paladin Armor Systems!! Talk to Ryan tell him Scott sent ya!!
USA made, USA resources….. amazing helmets
And armor
Hard head veterans I think is a legit company but never looked into it
Hey 1st phorm! My wife is a legionnaire, my entire wardrobe is 1st phorm
Anyone else find it hard to listen to him without focusing on his crooked hat. Lol great info but I can’t keep going back to the hat.
What was the deal with the hard headed veterans helmets I saw some rumors that they were fake too then didn’t see anything else confirming or denying
How much force does a 30-.06 dump into a level 4 plate? Would that snap your neck immediately?
Opscore is who I would go to for ballistic helmets
Start leaving reviews and calling these liars out my brothers .
Imma hard disagree with Chinese manufacturing. Software and tech are usually okay, but vehicles, construction, and gear is almost always dogshit
Like to hear your opinions on Hard Headed veterans helmets
@@jeffhuntley2921 pretty sure that’s who he was referring to not paying him. I remember watching his videos a year or two ago recommending them I think. Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure that was his recommendation a while back
Veterans discount is $15. Covers shipping cost… wasn’t impressed so shopping elsewhere. They must’ve tightened up the budget moving some things to their Texas plant..
Also the ballistic lab these companies like to claim did the testing is out of business and has been for sometime.
My issue with Chinese products made for defense is when everyone becomes reliant on them then they shut off the supply. Ie. surgical masks in 2020.
They might be fine. They might stop bullets just like the real thing. But if they wanted to shut off the suply during a catastrophy, and the US manufactorers lower their output, then we have a huge problem. It makes me nervous.
If my life depends on it's quality, it does matter if it's Chinese or US🤦♂️
Kevlar is Kevlar. Ceramic is Ceramic. If it can stop a bullet it can stop a bullet. Don’t over complicate it.
Why would you represent that company to begin with? They have been advertising level four helmets for quite some time
All these scam helmets are why I stick with surplus soviet steel helmets. I know, not bulletproof, but neither are the scam ones, and I won’t look like someone who got gypped by the fads
Sounds pretty much like majority of retail marketing in many industries. Consumers should do their own research but this isn’t some earth shattering new practice. Marketing and CEOs can be illusive. Welcome to the real world. It’s not just helmet companies. Is the product good or not good?
30-06 AP as soon as I heard that I started thinking scrambled eggs
Thanks for not using Johnny B’s drama llama. It was a little annoying.
Have we scrutinized ArmorSource yet?
But is it kevlar? Didn't some east europeans receive body armor with plywood "plates"?
this is definitely some bullshit an not to mention dangerous
the difference in making a iPhone and making kevlar.... is OVERSIGHT.... Apple is the most valuable company in the world if not its top 5. This means their Quality Assurance standards are higher. I get the premise you are saying they have the ability to make quality products which may be true but neither the company selling the helmets or the company manufacturing the products are willing to have high enough QA standards and do not care about their customers. They only care about pocketing money as fast as possible.
No shame with their game 😮
3:44 Adept Armor helmets?
What happened with HHV?
I think I made it pretty clear in the video
They didn't pay him but the helmets are fine I own and have tested one!
If they are posting this crap, sue the crap out of them for FALSE ADVERTISEMENT.
just buy the cheapest helmet with good mounts that is comfortable because when the time comes its not gonna stop that 556 green tip.
@derrickkolba very very good point I agree, however if there's 5.56 flying there's also going to be shrapnel flying from small and large munitions. Thats what theyre for; a chance. Just a thought!
I guess the question is then......where are these products coming from?is it Chinesium and is there a middle man?
Sounds like if they were paying you, you would have kept this to yourself
Going after scammers is not cancel culture. Trying to destroy someone’s life because they have a different opinion than you is cancel culture.