NEW Rat Rig V-Core 3.1 Launch First Impressions
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Rat Rig has announced the V-Core 3.1 a new upgraded version of the V-Core 3 so I take a look through the announcement and give my first impressions of the changes.
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Great breakdown Adam! Can't wait to hear your comments once you upgrade your machine! Don't worry about the washers on the Cast Corners - they have become part of the kit since you mentioned that point on your first videos about a year ago (thanks for the input, btw), and they're there on the 3.1 too! :)
love the idea of picking the video apart and explaining each element, nice work ✌
Great point on building the important assemblies first. I followed the instructions (and so found I was a tiny bit out of square) and had real difficulty’s getting it spot on. I’ll be redoing it soon with 3.1 parts but I’ll be doing the top down build for sure. Thanks good summary
Dont know how it was before but it looks like the 3d printed part with the bearing and lead screw trough also helps with aligning the rail
One thing I have seen is a new base panel for "After Build" installation.
My guess is there are too many peeps who have already built theirs, before they amended the build instructions
Originally the instructions waited until you had built the printer, then stated "Go back to step XX and undo the build to fit this panel"
Now it states, at that particular step "If you intend to fit the base panel do it here before continuing"
The new panel design has removed the corner stems to make it easier to fit after build
But for me, I think the only difference here is the stronger fittings
I just wish they'd either make it 20x20 or 40x40. That just makes it easier to order extrusion when self sourcing.
you know the print size is not identical to the frame size right?
Thanks very much for the videos... all of them! This is perfect timing for me, anyway, as I received my V-Core 3.0 500 kit one week ago today, and just assembled the electronics frame last night. So, of course, I ordered the V3.1 Upgrade Kit just a few hours ago. DHL has already informed me to expect delivery on July 1st! This is my first 3-D Printer. No heated bed nor enclosure panels until after I get this thing running.
Hmmm, I think that must be a different shipment as RatRig state they are shipping from July 5th.
And I ordered mine directly when the video dropped.
That’s a lot of printer, please update on if it has any rigidity issues as I don’t know anyone running the largest size
@@alexmills1329 Okay, Alex. It might be awhile. My last big project, a CNC milling machine, took 5 months to build & get a major bug fixed. Working OK now.
@@johnvybiral7220 Hows the Vcore 3 500 working btw, assembled and tested?
After Cartesians and a Delta the next step for me is grabbing a CoreXY and since RatRig is on the same country i decided to give them a try. Going Vcore3.1 500 as well but considering adding some spice depending on thoughts on stock. And since i'm considering going 500x500x1000 it helps knowing what the 500x500 is capable of .
Thanks
@@Killerjack007 Hi! Since I am in no hurry to finish this thing, I'm taking my time, going slowly and carefully. Last night, I finished the mechanical assembly and started on the wiring. One bit of advice I can give though, is to read ALL the comments from other builders. They helped me a lot! The single most troublesome part of the mechanical assembly was the holder for the proximity sensor. It's a 3D-printed tube with a hex-shaped cavity half-way down, on the INSIDE of the tube. Its purpose is to capture a M3 hex nut for the sensor position locking screw. Unfortunately, the nut is bigger than the cavity it is supposed to fall into. What a hassle! Good luck with your build, mate!
Another "major" change from their website is that in the new system the 2 front linear rails for the z axis will not be facing inwards on the sides of the vertical extrusions, but they will be facing backwards from the rears of the extrusions. They say to improve access to the printer, even though I don't think it will change too much but it's a remarkable difference also when thinking about upgrading the printer (which is something I am planning to do on my RR3 500)
Did a lot of people build a rr3 in 500mm3?
in this video you cant see most of the improvements at all. for example, its almost impossible now to mount the motor cages in the wrong position, the whole z assembly is much easier now
frame is purposely built 'upside down so you sqaure up the top first (3:40 minute mark)
the Prusa XL and Bambu Labs Carbon 3D printers coming out have very advanced features. Would be interesting to see a lidar attachment from voron or ratrig, or some way to detect flow. Also would be interesting to see a tool changer from voron or ratrig so you don't have to spend 3500 on a Prusa XL
Theres alway sthe E3D toolchanger platform which was the original, Voron not being a company will do what voron do when they do it and to be fair the Bambu Labs isn't doing anything special other than LIDAR and its not even true LIDAR and really doesn't do much at the moment anyway going by all the reviews.
Voron will never have lidar as stock config. One of their requirements are to have standard parts that are easy to get around the world.
bambu lab's lidar seems to not be compatible with standard pei sheet, so i think that if you whant automatic flow calibration and first layer verification the community need to push on a pi-cam based ai... thats pretty hard to implement
I'd been building mine and got about half done before this upgrade came out. Welp, time to take it apart and start over.
Finishing the Voron but the V-Core is on the todo list..
I like how you click on the pause play button like my teachers in highschool lol
I use keyboard shortcuts J K L.
@@Vector3DP you can also use left and right arrow keys to skip 5 seconds instead of 10 as with j and l. You can also skip frame by frame with "," and "."
Ohhhh highschool. My highschool teachers walked uphill in the snow both ways to the chalk mine. They were very dedicated to their jobs and the benefit of others.
Hmmmm, I bought the kit in the winter and then got otherwise occupied. The boxes have been sitting on a workbench. I wonder if I should buy the upgrade and build straight to that. Opinions, peeps?
Sounds like a good idea. Provided you do actually build it afterwards. Not talking crap, life just happens.
To whomever did the original video: Don't add the effect on the feature card after you set the time. No one's going to be able to read "XY kinematics" in 50 milliseconds.
yeah they tried to make hype videos like Prusa but they totally failed lol ratrig just loves to copy nothing original coming from it
Just putting the finishing touches on my 3.0 to 3.1 upgrade kit for my RatRig 300.
Needs Revo
This was painful to watch.
All of these will become obsolete, the Bambu will take all of their places... there is not a good argument for any of these style printers except for the ultra die-hards.
Yes…Bambu labs has better specs, lower price…and it’s already assembled (time is also money)
@@lavafree any guess as to when one can buy a X1 carbon?
Bambu is a good option if you don't mind proprietary software, slicer, extruder, hot-end, and other bits. It addresses a market, but I do not think the people who want to be able to replace easily parts that are worn out, or upgrade when new features/techniques/hardware become available will be tempted for now. When the laser probe, camera, multi material changer, etc. become available, with support in open source slicers and klipper, as they surely will, the other printers will catch up. It's a very dynamic community, it may not take long.
@@jacquesgilbert2774 open source makes sense of course, but it’s a (mostly) niche market. Most people buy crealitys and prusas and bambulabs product is aimed to compete with those brands. Seed capital had to be quite serious for those tooling and paying engineers, even before launching Kickstarter campaign.
Bambu Labs is a basic core XY machine with a few nice bits which are over hyped, it looks good and is well priced but it is priced to disturb the market and nothing else time will tell how long they manage to keep to these price points. For me after a decade of 3D printing I will stick to building my own until I see something truly special. I prefer open source and always will, a company that takes all the best of open source and community ideas to produce a machine and then lock it down has no place in my opinion.