The Full Story of Crime Boss Eddie Winter - Fallout 4 Lore

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  • @martiellmo738
    @martiellmo738 Před 7 lety +3648

    Says killing a 200 year old crime boss is murder.
    Slaughters hundreds of raiders without a thought.

    • @austingx8295
      @austingx8295 Před 7 lety +75

      Martiellmo dues vult

    • @Its_Me_Romano
      @Its_Me_Romano Před 7 lety +128

      Martiellmo Raiders ain't humans

    • @tallman11282
      @tallman11282 Před 7 lety +296

      Raiders aren't killed in cold blood, they are killed in self defense. They are a danger to the Sole Surviver and to innocent Commonwealth settlements. Eddie Winter, on the other hand, isn't currently a danger to anybody. Nick's theory that Eddie plans to come out of his shelter and take over again is just that, a theory. There's no way to know for sure what Eddie plans to do. Raiders, though, are a clear and present danger.

    • @grefsteel3989
      @grefsteel3989 Před 7 lety +136

      lol eddie said he wanted to get out to rule boston.
      not sure why he didnt come out yet

    • @Andrei-qb6rm
      @Andrei-qb6rm Před 7 lety +54

      Martiellmo raiders attack first even if you ignore them

  • @t0xxical13
    @t0xxical13 Před 7 lety +1836

    I guess you could say Nick has some... _Old World Blues_.

    • @theweredragon9887
      @theweredragon9887 Před 7 lety +38

      Moonlit Ghost that was my fav. The biolgical unit and the juke box had sexy voices. Dose the juke box have a blues modules or im just being an idiot.

    • @RezaAfsar
      @RezaAfsar Před 6 lety +19

      Moonlit Ghost time to go back to the Big MT

    • @lizzybizzy7159
      @lizzybizzy7159 Před 6 lety +17

      MOBIOUS

    • @Fallout3AtWar
      @Fallout3AtWar Před 6 lety +8

      I love you can I be your friend

    • @BoToChris
      @BoToChris Před 5 lety +16

      There were Old World Blues, and New World Hope. And hope ruled the day in the Wastes.

  • @BBBHuey
    @BBBHuey Před 7 lety +1745

    When I confronted Eddie the first time with Nick, I, Nick and the Mysterious Stranger shot him at the same time.

    • @liptonicetea1813
      @liptonicetea1813 Před 4 lety +307

      His own personal case was closed with the help of another case, cool.

    • @jace_Henderson
      @jace_Henderson Před 4 lety +201

      I thought that was cool but I have forgotten that the mysterious stranger is another thing Nick is trying to solve which just made this whole thing even better:

    • @dawey8897
      @dawey8897 Před 4 lety +101

      *sexy guitar rifts*

    • @teoborges3949
      @teoborges3949 Před 4 lety +74

      "Eddie! It's me! Your old pal Shamus McFuckyourself!"

    • @eldritchmor7800
      @eldritchmor7800 Před 4 lety +79

      Killing Eddie with the Power of ~*Friendship*~

  • @rileysandpaper8930
    @rileysandpaper8930 Před 5 lety +376

    "I didn't want to walk the whole way so I fast traveled"
    Haha, yeah
    *cries in survival*

    • @winstonchurchill624
      @winstonchurchill624 Před 4 lety +17

      Riley Sandpaper How have you got this far in survival mode without the lone wanderer perk?

    • @winstonchurchill624
      @winstonchurchill624 Před 3 lety +8

      @Zesty Zucc it doesn’t I have no idea what I meant by the comment haha

  • @MrJGN
    @MrJGN Před 7 lety +1958

    I have to admit, that chap Nick Valentine has one of the greatest "before-the-kill" one liners in Fallout 4:
    Eddie: "Christ, look at you, your not even alive"
    "Guess im in good company, then"
    -Nick

  • @R8ERN8TION52
    @R8ERN8TION52 Před 7 lety +1473

    I mean technically Winter is Nicks "Kellogg"

  • @WR01018
    @WR01018 Před 6 lety +263

    In my play-through, Nick one shot winter Since I equipped him a full modified .44 pistol. At the moment, I saw Nick pull out his pistol and then Winter's head got blew away just in a second. It's so cinematic and so cool, almost like a western movie.

    • @buffsniper
      @buffsniper Před 3 měsíci +6

      I myself gave him a super sledge.... Eddie's body turned into red jello under 1 seconds

  • @Legoman1352
    @Legoman1352 Před 6 lety +260

    "You're carrying too much and can't run!" Even Fallout 4 knows that you can't run from problems

  • @firewing0223
    @firewing0223 Před 7 lety +1876

    Nick's voice acting is so great.

    • @winstonlc68
      @winstonlc68 Před 5 lety +54

      @Grim reaper i mean they are the same voice actor, Bethesda didnt have enough to pay the wage for each npc so fallout voice actors were used. Nicks voice was used on so many npc's its crazy. But oh well skyrim is godly

    • @SaintGuillotine
      @SaintGuillotine Před 5 lety +14

      Only Morgan Freeman's voice could be better

    • @gingerboi8773
      @gingerboi8773 Před 4 lety +22

      My favorite line in the game: "Ashes go home. ERIN MISSES YOU"

    • @f.a.kefacebook5688
      @f.a.kefacebook5688 Před 4 lety +5

      It's Humphrey Bogart.

    • @doomboi3682
      @doomboi3682 Před 4 lety +3

      YOUR IN FOR IT NOW

  • @nickvalentine6243
    @nickvalentine6243 Před 7 lety +653

    "After spending some time with our favorite synthetic detective, Nick Valentine"
    YES! I knew you loved me!

  • @MrGamerman001
    @MrGamerman001 Před 6 lety +99

    "Get over yourself, it aint always about YOU." Damn. Nick broke the 4th wall a little bit there.

  • @ColynBowman
    @ColynBowman Před 7 lety +70

    10:30 They missed the perfect opportunity to call it "Operation Winterfall"

  • @Moonoom
    @Moonoom Před 7 lety +2034

    This was the first quest I did after completing the main story, it was all because 'ol Nicky wouldn't shut up about it.
    "How we doing on the hunt for Eddie's tapes?"
    "How we doing on the hunt for Eddie's tapes?"
    "How we doing on the hunt for Eddie's tapes?"
    "How we doing on the hunt for Eddie's tapes?"
    "How we doing on the hunt for Eddie's tapes?"
    "How we doing on the hunt for Eddie's tapes?"
    "How we doing on the hunt for Eddie's tapes?"
    "There's a settlement in need, I'll mark it on your map."
    I'LL FIND HIS TAPES OKAY?
    *Edit:* I didn't know this would get so popular, wow.

    • @nigerundayo1996
      @nigerundayo1996 Před 7 lety +14

      Moon Kid e:he was doing the same thing to me I was like fine I'll find those damn tapes

    • @mushfiqrahman4557
      @mushfiqrahman4557 Před 7 lety +2

      Moon Kid wow that also happened to me

    • @GeminiTheDoll
      @GeminiTheDoll Před 7 lety +6

      Moon Kid I hated that I started the quest too early in the game I went straight to diamond city after I joined the mm so every time I see Nick he's still asking me ...one day I'll look for them 😂😏

    • @nlm2nd
      @nlm2nd Před 7 lety +35

      Probably in this place that is the perfect place for a mirelurk den. *Pushes Nick and X6-88 into the quarry*

    • @coreysprinkel3630
      @coreysprinkel3630 Před 7 lety +2

      Samuel Reyna you mean the KELLER family.

  • @ScarletImp
    @ScarletImp Před 7 lety +1321

    I find it hilarious that the Sole Survivor lectures Nick about basically using her as an accomplice to murder Eddie Winter for something that happened 200 years ago, when she herself used NICK as an accomplice to murder Kellogg for something that happened 60 years ago. Sole Survivor, please look yourself in the mirror.

    • @zachantes1161
      @zachantes1161 Před 7 lety +113

      ScarletImp2113 Thing is though, Eddie hasn't committed a crime for over 200 years, he has also been pardoned for ratting out other criminals. Meanwhile, Kellog is still commiting crimes, and has not been pardoned for his former crimes. Basically, Eddie has redeemed himself, Kellog hasn't.

    • @ScarletImp
      @ScarletImp Před 7 lety +37

      @Zach Antes -- You make a valid point. Still, Eddie's redemption and not-killing-anyone-ever-again for the next 200 years didn't stop Nick from wanting to kill him.

    • @zachantes1161
      @zachantes1161 Před 7 lety +60

      ScarletImp2113 Yes, but Nick is a detective, he is supposed to follow due process. If Eddie Winter has been granted immunity then he is no longer considered a criminal. Unless he commits another crime, he is still considered a free man, he is not guilty of any crimes in the eyes of the law. Meanwhile, if Nick kills Eddie, Nick then becomes a criminal.

    • @ScarletImp
      @ScarletImp Před 7 lety +28

      To add to your point, @Zach Antes -- the Sole Survivor ISN'T a detective, so he/she doesn't really have to follow due process. That burden is lifted slightly. Another thing I just realized was that I had no idea Eddie was actually ratting out his own crew in the holotapes. I'm so dense. xD

    • @Docmain3
      @Docmain3 Před 6 lety +28

      Lone survivor looks in the mirror.
      "War, war never changes".

  • @t-51bpowerarmour77
    @t-51bpowerarmour77 Před 4 lety +39

    Nick is the best companion
    Oh and can I just say that when you have codsworth as your equipped as your companion and transfer over to nick, codsworth says that he is the only one he trusts with his master (if your female he calls you mum, if your male the n he calls you sir).

  • @southerneyes41
    @southerneyes41 Před 6 lety +105

    Have you ever explored the relationship between Eddies last holotape, the one in the bunker, to fan theories about who/how the bombs got dropped? "His informant" told him they were coming, but clearly Eddie was working with/for the Federal Government, sums arms dealers, Russians etc, so who told him? How did they know? Does that play into the hurried pace of the Sanctuary Vault rep and his seeming to anticipate the bombs?
    Why is Vault 76 full when the bombs go off?

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 Před 3 lety +3

      Or maybe it was his gut feeling

    • @alejandrotenorio80
      @alejandrotenorio80 Před 3 lety +1

      This might be a leap in logic but it might be he saw this in a dream or a trip I live in Albuquerque New Mexico and I’ve heard of people dreaming mount Taylor erupting

    • @theinternetpolice2078
      @theinternetpolice2078 Před 3 lety +7

      Vault 76 was full at the drop of the bombs because it has no experiment, but it was not exactly a control vault. It contained the best and brightest West Virginians for the purpose of releasing them 25 years later and reclaiming the Appalachian Wasteland using the C.A.M.P. technology.
      ...unless that mention of Vault 76 was a typo.

  • @loganr6203
    @loganr6203 Před 7 lety +583

    i love how if your sarcastic with Nick he's sarcastic with you

    • @dylancassidy7186
      @dylancassidy7186 Před 7 lety +44

      Logan Reed ine does not simply be sarcastic with someone from Chicago

    • @Gamingturtle090
      @Gamingturtle090 Před 7 lety +36

      Logan Reed if i had a cap everytime he said the ass in a reply to my sarcastic comments i could probably buy a well upgraded 10mm pistol

    • @countsnowyofgwainn3996
      @countsnowyofgwainn3996 Před 5 lety +7

      thats why he is best companion ^_^

    • @duskycat2326
      @duskycat2326 Před 5 lety +22

      Not only that, but he fucking owns you. Nick's a fucking savage

    • @turbogoblin8232
      @turbogoblin8232 Před 5 lety +8

      they shouldve renamed the sarcastic dialogue to bully the synth

  • @TheMightyPika
    @TheMightyPika Před 7 lety +989

    The monologue Nick has at the end, when he's talking about the existential nightmare that is every moment of his life, was one of the deepest cutting video game moments I've experienced. The actor is incredible.

    • @Rainbow_Dash_of_Cloudsdale
      @Rainbow_Dash_of_Cloudsdale Před 5 lety +64

      Nick is pretty much the best thing in Fallout 4.

    • @frogman3740
      @frogman3740 Před 4 lety +28

      Fallout 4 hits you with all the emotional low blows

    • @TheMightyPika
      @TheMightyPika Před 4 lety +26

      @@Rainbow_Dash_of_Cloudsdale agreed, followed closely by Hancock, who I feel wasn't explored enough. A truly fun and complex character.

    • @alejandrotenorio80
      @alejandrotenorio80 Před 3 lety +7

      When he said all that I almost cried

    • @mil1992
      @mil1992 Před 3 lety

      You haven’t played rdr2

  • @RangerOfTheOrder
    @RangerOfTheOrder Před 3 lety +25

    2:08 This is why Nick is my favorite. He's got a sharp wit and always goes toe to toe with the character's sass and sarcasm

  • @kingrulez3584
    @kingrulez3584 Před 4 lety +153

    You use the word “fingered” to loosely

    • @shockanova
      @shockanova Před 3 lety +11

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @FortunateJuice
      @FortunateJuice Před 3 lety +13

      And you misused the word "to", so I guess we all have faults.

    • @tero8569
      @tero8569 Před 3 lety +9

      I mean in the context it works. It can mean to identify as responsible for wrongdoing or a crime, especially to the police: fingered the sales clerk as the thief.
      b. To identify or designate as being responsible
      So the usage checks out

    • @NikoLeftVods
      @NikoLeftVods Před 3 měsíci

      thank gawd i am not the only one who got hung up on that

    • @unusualsuspect980
      @unusualsuspect980 Před 2 měsíci +1

      "Fingered" hasn't always meant what it does now. It also means to accuse someone of doing something or ratting someone out.

  • @sumaes1489
    @sumaes1489 Před 7 lety +355

    *PERFECT SPOT FOR AN EDDIE DEN*

    • @automah2724
      @automah2724 Před 7 lety +7

      perfect spot for winter's end

    • @Its_Me_Romano
      @Its_Me_Romano Před 7 lety +1

      S3kc13 Well ur getting on my nerves now please shut up and find a new way to get likes. I'm happy ur not on top now...

    • @dylancassidy7186
      @dylancassidy7186 Před 7 lety +13

      S3kc13 pefect spot for a perfect spot comment

  • @cherrymessiah
    @cherrymessiah Před 7 lety +557

    It would be awesome if you could find the real Nick Valentine as a ghoul. Like, the original Nick Valentine became a ghoul and met the synth Nick two-hundred years later.

    • @JesshikaG
      @JesshikaG Před 7 lety +49

      East Muppet of the Weast it actually be a cool concept but because of lore, and how nick obtain nick's memories, that would require a death from the human nick. so sadly i don't think it would happen, unless bethesda calls some loop hole

    • @StripedLlama
      @StripedLlama Před 7 lety +53

      East Muppet of the Weast Like, you find him somewhere near or in the Boston Common and he asks our Nick to just end his life because he feels he's about to go feral. It's a heartfelt talk between the two and a gunshot is heard. I would love to see that!

    • @cherrymessiah
      @cherrymessiah Před 7 lety +27

      Only activates after the whole Eddie conundrum.

    • @StripedLlama
      @StripedLlama Před 7 lety +3

      East Muppet of the Weast perfect

    • @cherrymessiah
      @cherrymessiah Před 7 lety +17

      Synth Nick would have so much emotional trauma to go over.

  • @stephenhornickiii
    @stephenhornickiii Před 5 lety +35

    lol... Frozen banana?
    "There's always money IN the banana stand!"

  • @LetruneInedil
    @LetruneInedil Před 7 lety +43

    I think it was a cool story. I love how Nick is a good person and he did justice in my opinion. Eddie had it coming. Eddie deserved it.

  • @Mikey-xz4vn
    @Mikey-xz4vn Před 7 lety +693

    Jesus the in-game subtitles need a serious proofreading

    • @GetUpTheMountains
      @GetUpTheMountains Před 7 lety +81

      I've played the whole game with them on, and yeah, there are a number of inaccuracies. She says Molly while the text reads Shamus is one of the more glaring ones, to be sure.

    • @kidragakas
      @kidragakas Před 6 lety +44

      25:25 Charter =/= Prince Street 😂

    • @alexmanev2638
      @alexmanev2638 Před 6 lety +33

      cloak and dagger friend =/= army intelligence agent

    • @maki49574
      @maki49574 Před 5 lety +13

      Maybe Piper will.

    • @finnishboy5923
      @finnishboy5923 Před 4 lety

      mike Haley like one of the people from project cobalt

  • @dimitarkondev5522
    @dimitarkondev5522 Před 7 lety +419

    "Frozen banana" Nick Valentine - 2270s

  • @I_am_always_correct
    @I_am_always_correct Před 4 lety +26

    Nick: "This rifle of mine glows with an awesome power! Its burning grip tells me to defeat you! Take this! My love, my anger, and all of my sorrow! SHINING LASER!"

  • @VinceM1989
    @VinceM1989 Před 6 lety +42

    I personally agree with the choice to murder Eddie Winter. Based on the lore of this the guy had it coming. If someone had killed someone I cred about I would want revenge, even if it took 200 years to avenge the person.

  • @nicholascross3557
    @nicholascross3557 Před 7 lety +282

    Long version, Eddie made a deal for immunity from prosecution in exchange for providing evidence against his criminal associates. Such bargains require that to be immune, one must confess those crimes which one would otherwise be held accountable for. Now, due to the minor matter of the end of civilisation as we know it in 2077, none of Eddie's associates was ever brought to trial, let alone to justice, the deal with the authorities is rendered null and void. That being the case, the fact that Eddie has confessed to crimes up to and including 1st degree murder (on which there is no statute of limitations) makes him a fugitive from justice and it is a citizen's _duty_ to aid in his apprehention, so when he pulls a gun he is killed resisting arrest. All legal and above board. Moral quandries, none.

    • @nicholascross3557
      @nicholascross3557 Před 7 lety +81

      Short version. Killing Eddie isn't murder, it's garbage disposal.

    • @BalsapphicVinegar
      @BalsapphicVinegar Před 7 lety +45

      Man, this would've been a great dialogue option for a high-intelligence Nora. Considering she graduated from law school, she would've had enough knowledge of the pre-war legal system to come to that conclusion.

    • @Rallion1
      @Rallion1 Před 7 lety +19

      There's no government or law system there anyway. Who cares if his deal with some long-gone government was valid or not; that's entirely moot. Fallout is a world of kill or be killed, not of kill and go to prison.
      Killing Eddie is not legal nor illegal. The morality of it, however, would only be loosely linked to the legality even if legality was a concept that existed in post-war Fallout.

    • @SCP_Wandsman13_13
      @SCP_Wandsman13_13 Před 3 lety

      Are you a lawyer?

    • @miguelortiz2038
      @miguelortiz2038 Před 3 lety

      Best comment on thread damn it

  • @Corky1O1c
    @Corky1O1c Před 7 lety +389

    Eddie Wintuh. Soignin oaff.

  • @ShadeShaadent
    @ShadeShaadent Před 7 lety +98

    Personally I think synth nick avenged real nick and his fiancé in this quest, nick's story makes me hate the institute more for having him (the robot) go through hell pretty much and I'm glad eddy finally got what's comming, much like the whole Cabot family will in my gameplay, in the end this is just giving me more a reason to shoot father on sight, Shawn or not Shawn

  • @executehelenkeller
    @executehelenkeller Před 4 lety +9

    I like the references to actual boston crime figures and situations. Howie Winter, Johnny Martorano, North vs south relations, etc. I think that's cool they took the time to do it.

    • @rayray6490
      @rayray6490 Před 2 měsíci

      Eddie Winters was also based on Whitey Bulger who was on the run for a long time before being caught

    • @LouieOcean.
      @LouieOcean. Před 2 měsíci

      ⁠@@rayray6490he’s named after Howie Winter tho

  • @bamboozledagain4165
    @bamboozledagain4165 Před 7 lety +1500

    Eddie's bunker looks like *A PERFECT SPOT FOR A MIRELURK DEN*

  • @mq9281
    @mq9281 Před 7 lety +269

    so cit recorded nicks personality. nick then helped the ss find the institute and eventually destroy it. so the institute basically signed there own death warrant a hundred years before it existed. That's crazy

    • @jogadom6624
      @jogadom6624 Před 7 lety +8

      MQ what? No no you join the Institute and recycle Nick into something more useful, like a waste bin.

    • @misterwyzard4162
      @misterwyzard4162 Před 6 lety +15

      That's actually fucking badass

    • @vivomega3937
      @vivomega3937 Před 6 lety +5

      Floople,
      You do that when you side with the -nazis- bos.

    • @markjacobs3898
      @markjacobs3898 Před 5 lety +7

      Floople Doop this needs to be a mod with full on German accents and ss uniforms it would be amazing

    • @oofmcoofy6769
      @oofmcoofy6769 Před 4 lety

      *there're

  • @bumblemcgrumbles7720
    @bumblemcgrumbles7720 Před 6 lety +109

    "Get over yourself, it's not always about you."
    This is Fallout 4, Nick. It kind of is all about us.

  • @Naruku2121
    @Naruku2121 Před 4 lety +17

    "What is it out there? A world of robot overlords?"
    *Post Automatron*
    Me: *Well...*

  • @bigyoda6958
    @bigyoda6958 Před 7 lety +81

    Nicks brain is a perfect spot for a miurlerk den

    • @liptonicetea1813
      @liptonicetea1813 Před 4 lety +9

      *wakes up inside the cryo chamber*
      The man outside: THIS POD IS PERFECT FOR A MIRELURK DEN.

  • @leslaychandel947
    @leslaychandel947 Před 7 lety +180

    26:11 huh, you can run Chrome and Firefox on computers 200 years after the apocalypse.

    • @grefsteel3989
      @grefsteel3989 Před 7 lety +5

      legit

    • @smgeezus7186
      @smgeezus7186 Před 6 lety +3

      I was wondering about that...

    • @firekeeper3536
      @firekeeper3536 Před 6 lety +5

      If the servers are still up then you can do it.

    • @misteromoney7400
      @misteromoney7400 Před 6 lety +8

      You do realize that computers in that universe r just basically big holotapes, right? They aren’t connected to WiFi or big networks because those don’t exist there.

    • @InhabitantOfOddworld
      @InhabitantOfOddworld Před 6 lety +3

      Mister OMoney
      Same as our computers were prior to the internet. Fallout terminals even use the same CL interface that DOS and Linux Bash use too

  • @Assassinus2
    @Assassinus2 Před 5 lety +16

    "Pastrami golem." Love it!

  • @vanyaspurrell7792
    @vanyaspurrell7792 Před 7 lety +7

    1:42
    I don't know if anyone noticed, but, when nick is talking about the "one upon a time" stuff, we get to zoom in, and, I think it's cool!
    Not just because he is my favourite companion or anything..... n-not at all.............
    DON'T JUDGE ME!

  • @seancarroll9849
    @seancarroll9849 Před 7 lety +124

    I'll be honest here:
    1) This was justice, long overdue. There is an old saying that applies here. All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. It's pretty clear Winter was going to get back to business, and his crimes certainly had no statute of limitations in a legal sense. It was time to bring down the hammer.
    2) This is what the Commonwealth has become. The only justice can be found at the muzzle of a gun for certain egregious crimes. Winter got his just desserts.
    3) Sometimes closing a chapter is therapeutic. Valentine needed this to move one. He wasn't going to get it 200 years before; the bureaucracy of a federal government had stopped that one its tracks. Sometimes I think trying to get a bunch of gangsters leaves the door open for abuses, and one must be careful how to proceed. This was a case of when that can go wrong. Immunity when you proceed to commit the same crimes? There needs to be a point where you say 'no'.

    • @troodon1096
      @troodon1096 Před 6 lety +5

      Amen.

    • @SovietArmyGuy
      @SovietArmyGuy Před 4 lety

      Mdr g pa lu

    • @askinredroads5132
      @askinredroads5132 Před 4 lety +1

      Sean Carroll I like your views on this subject and it got me thinking even if it wasn’t “his” memories, is easy to see how he views it, partly as avenging this woman in the past, and partly letting his mind rest. During your time with him he talks about being scared he’s going to lose memories as he ages , or a part of him because his mind is too full. The human brain is made to finish things, and if you don’t finish it the mind never lets it go, so all of Valentines unfinished cases, wearing away at his mind. Finishing the longest and most emotionally charged one he remembers, it has got to be a relief.

  • @l.d-b3465
    @l.d-b3465 Před 7 lety +83

    I wonder... did Winter ever come out of that bunker in the last 200 years? If not, then that sad sack just spent 2 centuries in a well furnished cell. A long wait for his Green Mile.

    • @ntrunnrracl
      @ntrunnrracl Před 2 lety +2

      Some criminals wait decades on death row. Eddie got 200 years before he met his firing squad

    • @darcismith7295
      @darcismith7295 Před rokem +1

      Jesus when you put it like that, did eddy already serve his time then? A well furnished cell is still a cell after all and onto of that it was solitary confinement basicly, I absolutely think nick needed to kill eddy and eddy was just siting in purgatory anyways and if he left he wouldn't be a good to the commonwealth anyways so 🤷‍♀️ but the man did basicly serve 2 life sentences by the time he gets killed

    • @kingdomcome3914
      @kingdomcome3914 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@darcismith7295Technically never did. He was let go for the information on other criminals related to his activities, which pissed off Nick Valentine to no end.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato Před 10 měsíci

      @@ntrunnrracl yeah it's why the death penalty isn't economically viable

  • @lieutenantdiamond5601
    @lieutenantdiamond5601 Před 6 lety +9

    39:54 Something I also immediately remembered that you didn't mention, a real small detail, but worth noting nonetheless, is that he mentioned the guy had a theory. This is likely the same guy Curie talks about in one of her random throwaway lines triggered by encountering ghouls or feral ghouls.

  • @cob781
    @cob781 Před 7 lety +6

    I was really hoping you would speak of how Eddie Winter was based off the former Irish mob boss Whitey Bulgar and how almost all of what happens within this Quest is fairly close to what actually happened. Of course, Whitey didn't turn into a ghoul or go into hiding in a sub shop, but he did get away with the shit he did in Southie for many years because of the fact that he became in FBI informant.
    Also Eddie's name is clearly a play on words of Whitey (since they sound very similar) and Winter was most likely derived from Whiteys gangs name which was "The Winter Hill Gang".
    I'm not sure if anyone outside of Boston would really get the reference as hes really only infamous within Boston (seriously no one outside of the city knows who the fuck I'm talking about when I bring this up), but I still think this is such a cool detail to an equal great quest.

  • @pinckney1897
    @pinckney1897 Před 7 lety +58

    please do a video on what the military did right after the bombs fell. there are several places where the military tried to keep control but failed like the hospitals and checkpoints

  • @ivo9100
    @ivo9100 Před 7 lety +124

    Hey Ox, could you make a video of essential lore for a roleplaying character who lived before the war? All the brands, all the news, etc... For Fallout 4 , and possibly the others!

  • @felorivera1054
    @felorivera1054 Před 5 lety +5

    Nick Valentine's story...This is true character development. His voice actor made this even better! Nuff said!

  • @navygraphite6112
    @navygraphite6112 Před 5 lety +10

    16:00 -16:40 reminds me of the story in the game SOMA since, the the main plot is around copying a mind and putting it into a robot 100 years later.
    (Just a weird thought)

  • @csweezey18
    @csweezey18 Před 7 lety +43

    25:27
    "...on 4 Charter Street."
    Sorry Eddie, but the subtitles don't agree.

  • @SaltyMaud
    @SaltyMaud Před 7 lety +120

    I honestly don't understand how you can keep up with your release schedule.. Daily 30+ minute videos with good research, good script, fitting background footage and editing, you must work your ass out for your channel. I was a big fan of yours from the early days of wow machinima but this is somehow even more impressive.

  • @SailorPhantom
    @SailorPhantom Před 4 lety +8

    I wish there was more to Nick-(Suddenly remembers Far Harbor) I wish I could hug Nick!

  • @pappakustaa1055
    @pappakustaa1055 Před 5 lety +3

    In the world of Fallout,locked doors can not blow up. Always need code, key, terminal or bobby pin to open them.

  • @BitterComments
    @BitterComments Před 7 lety +69

    Mags Vecchio the journalist? LOL. Vecchio is the Italian word for old. Mags Vecchio = Old Magazines. Very clever there, Bethesda.

  • @australisplays7615
    @australisplays7615 Před 7 lety +109

    You really should have given Nick the Justice the Combat Shotgun for this quest
    As for was it murder for Nick to kill Winter.. Id like to paraphrase the words of Mr Frank Castle..
    "In certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it
    is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment. "

    • @Sh1ranu1
      @Sh1ranu1 Před rokem +1

      I went into this mission exclusively with Kellogg’s pistol, and then gave nick Eddie’s piece. Both of use with the weapons of our enemies

    • @toasterhavingabath6980
      @toasterhavingabath6980 Před rokem

      ??????

  • @Ravelinn
    @Ravelinn Před 3 lety +3

    I know this was several years ago, but this story of Nick Valentine is a sad and beautiful one all at the same time.
    thank you for your insight , time and patience doing this. I completed the game a couple of years ago but missed this quest.
    thank you for sharing

  • @bibepomp
    @bibepomp Před 6 lety +6

    I know what you mean when you say "to finger " but lmao

  • @MurdaKratz
    @MurdaKratz Před 7 lety +102

    Anyone else feel the irony of an institute character berating someone else about the morality of murder?

    • @fanficAddict404
      @fanficAddict404 Před 6 lety +6

      Simon Golding what are you talking? They only killed people they had to!
      Synths and People who live on the surface don't count.

    • @pimpsandwich9521
      @pimpsandwich9521 Před 5 lety +1

      the power armor was repping the institute with the paint job.

    • @Breached18
      @Breached18 Před 4 lety +5

      @Gregory Smith he was given the mind of the real Nick Valentine. Of course he chose the same job

  • @sarge1534
    @sarge1534 Před 7 lety +35

    I sense a character profile of Nicky coming up

  • @tatsuhirosatou5513
    @tatsuhirosatou5513 Před 5 lety +13

    This really set valentine apart as my clear favorite companion in the game.

  • @jasonhatt4295
    @jasonhatt4295 Před 4 lety +1

    This is why I watch these videos of yours, even despite multiple playthroughs I missed things that you didn't miss- Good work!

  • @xez531
    @xez531 Před 7 lety +30

    Eddie's bunker looks like a perfect spot for a mirelurk den

    • @LucyWest370
      @LucyWest370 Před 7 lety +1

      SHUT UP ABOUT THE DAMN MIRELURK JOKES!!!!!

    • @smithjones3548
      @smithjones3548 Před 7 lety +6

      Yeah, clam up with the mirelurk jokes! They're getting old--much like an old abandoned bunker which, by the way, would be the perfect place for a mirelurk den.

  • @ravagex9
    @ravagex9 Před 7 lety +33

    Eddie winter= the real life Whitey Bulger. They got winter's name because Bulgers group was called the Winter Hill Gang.

    • @GetUpTheMountains
      @GetUpTheMountains Před 7 lety +6

      RavageX-9 I was hoping someone would post this in the comments. Its one of the many tie-ins to real-life Boston in the game.

    • @ravagex9
      @ravagex9 Před 7 lety +3

      klesh lol, yeah i live in sc, but lived in ma most of my life. I was really surprised Oxhorn never mentioned the connection in the video. He's usually pretty good with that kinda stuff.

  • @VoiDShotzZ
    @VoiDShotzZ Před 5 lety +17

    When I did this quest my game glitched and sent me to a loading screen then when I came back Eddie winter was dead I was so confused

  • @MajiriTadakichi
    @MajiriTadakichi Před 6 lety +6

    I really like Nick, and when I finished the quest with him, I was trying my best to make him feel better. Justice doesn't have hands, but that's what Nick and the ss are for, even if it is murder, we'd be preventing Eddie from emerging and causing problems, much like how we treat raiders.

  • @camrenstevens317
    @camrenstevens317 Před 7 lety +18

    35:08 your reaction when you watch terminator for 200 years

  • @deadgrunt410
    @deadgrunt410 Před 7 lety +21

    it's two hundred year's late. But it's sweet justice!

  • @imfred08
    @imfred08 Před 5 lety

    Thank you for putting the story together. It was hard to figure it out while playing. Good job!

  • @jrena9443
    @jrena9443 Před 3 lety +1

    Still pretty funny to see that he doesn’t go straight to fighting after threatening him but amazed at someone cracking his holotapes after 200 years

  • @twitchyswitchy433
    @twitchyswitchy433 Před 7 lety +15

    Dude, Im sorry for the 12 year old dirty mind but your choice of words for incriminating was absolutely hilarious.

  • @UncleHyena
    @UncleHyena Před 7 lety +13

    Nick Valentine sees this video
    *instantly clicks the video*
    Wo weird deja vu

  • @headbozo1
    @headbozo1 Před 5 lety +3

    This one broke my heart for old Valentine. Wow.

  • @Delvirus84
    @Delvirus84 Před 2 lety +1

    I just started playing this game and came across this channel looking up tips on what to do in the wasteland. I'm at level 41 now and the more of these videos I watch the more I realize I haven't even scraped the surface of the content this game has to offer.

  • @kiwi_dont_fly381
    @kiwi_dont_fly381 Před 7 lety +38

    Hey ox could you please do a video on the sight? You know mama Murphy's whole "drugs = mystic powers" thing

  • @Seto_Saotome
    @Seto_Saotome Před 7 lety +30

    I like watching Oxhorn because it helps me prevent from making bad choices in the game.

    • @collinoneill9048
      @collinoneill9048 Před 7 lety +1

      Preston Garvey like telling people about settlements
      Talking about settlements
      There's a settlement that needs your help I'll mark it on your map

    • @lizzybizzy7159
      @lizzybizzy7159 Před 6 lety +1

      There’s another settlement that needs your help There’s another settlement that needs your help There’s another settlement that needs your help There’s another settlement that needs your help There’s another settlement that needs your help

  • @joserobertcenita6368
    @joserobertcenita6368 Před 4 lety +3

    Imagine someone making a movie out of this. It's an interesting story in itself, as well as giving an example as to why gamers get so attached to video game stories

  • @JamesOKeefe-US
    @JamesOKeefe-US Před 4 lety

    I just have to say I have watched dozens of Oxhorn's videos because they are just so amazing. But I always grin a bit when he pauses picking up items while there is dialog occurring and actually times the break in dialog to pick up items so it doesn't disturb the flow :) (see right around 38:49) These little attentions to detail are all over these but this one makes me smile! 👍

  • @TheOfficialPickles
    @TheOfficialPickles Před 7 lety +33

    Oxhorn the OG when it comes to uploads.💪

  • @kyledownie
    @kyledownie Před 7 lety +584

    Anyone else cringe when he says "he wanted to finger [insert name]"

    • @aspecticle8905
      @aspecticle8905 Před 7 lety +88

      Kyle The Celt I really didn't like that he kept saying Eddie was fingering people😂

    • @CoffeeGoblyn
      @CoffeeGoblyn Před 7 lety +96

      Hey now, nothing wrong with a little friendly fingering. I'd be disappointed if he didn't finger his friends and family.

    • @nickvalentine6243
      @nickvalentine6243 Před 7 lety +26

      i know.
      every time he said finger I imagined little ghoul eddie shoving his finger.................. uh, nevermind.

    • @winterfire567
      @winterfire567 Před 7 lety +12

      Actually I cringe when people unironically use the word "cringe."

    • @temporaryhalfdecentname8452
      @temporaryhalfdecentname8452 Před 7 lety +23

      Jorisuavz115 just running around Boston fingering people

  • @JordanSmileyP
    @JordanSmileyP Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for this, I heard almost all the holotapes in my playthroughs but I fly solo survival so I never had this quest!
    Your attention to detail is awesome!

  • @johnarooskivlogs9818
    @johnarooskivlogs9818 Před 5 lety +1

    Ox horn you have always inspired me to spend hours playing fallout and learning the lore thank you and keep up the good work

  • @arielnir2679
    @arielnir2679 Před 7 lety +130

    Ey, Its ya pall, shameus mcfuckyourself!
    Winter- great, firstone to get throu My dorr is a wise ass
    BEST DIALOG IN FO4 EVER!!!

  • @no-rd5tn
    @no-rd5tn Před 7 lety +26

    It's not murder it's called an extrajudicial killing so its okay.

    • @wvlf
      @wvlf Před 6 lety +7

      It's not waterboarding, It's tactical baptism!

    • @troodon1096
      @troodon1096 Před 6 lety +3

      To be fair, the sole survivor is one of the few survivors from Eddie's time. Nobody else from that time is around to arrest him, try him, or sentence him. If he was caught in the 21st century he would have faced the death penalty or at the very least life in prison. I feel no guilt acting for the no longer surviving legal system.

    • @boneman-calciumenjoyer8290
      @boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 Před 3 lety

      Don't worry, the law enforcement suffered a bit in the last 210 years, the closest thing to a cop around here is a dude wearing sports equipment.

  • @macrograms
    @macrograms Před 2 měsíci +1

    First Eddie Winter related tape I got: "We Are Done" inside BADTFL regional office. This tape says Nick Valentine was forced by his boss to go to the brain scan place and get his mind mapped or whatever (leading to the Valentine we know and love in a synth body). That tape got me curious so I did the whole questline with Nick. WORTH IT.

  • @GemmaLB
    @GemmaLB Před 3 lety +1

    Stephen Russell voices my 2 favourite companions in the game, Nick and Codsworth - and he puts so much emotion into both robos that they're more human than most of the people . Whatever they paid him it wasn't enough.

  • @rickchandler6855
    @rickchandler6855 Před 7 lety +6

    I can't wait until you do the Sierra Madre.
    Masterful job as always Oxhorn, keep up the good work!

    • @brainconqueror8095
      @brainconqueror8095 Před 5 lety

      Aah ... Dead Money! Eddie wanted to “Begin Again” but Nick didn’t “Let Go!” And if we thought what was done to Christine (forcibly given someone else’s voice) was bad, Nick being given an entire new mechanical body and waking up in a chaotic wasteland is worse!

  • @kaaz1010
    @kaaz1010 Před 7 lety +51

    How we doing on the hunt for Eddie's tapes?

    • @V21028
      @V21028 Před 7 lety +8

      200 years passed, these tapes no longer be playable anyway.
      Oops, my mistake.

    • @LorenzSinclair
      @LorenzSinclair Před 7 lety +1

      Kaaz are you Norwegian?

    • @kaaz1010
      @kaaz1010 Před 7 lety

      Epicskeleton
      Indeed

    • @LorenzSinclair
      @LorenzSinclair Před 7 lety

      Kaaz hvordan gjetta jeg det?

    • @kaaz1010
      @kaaz1010 Před 7 lety

      profilbilda?

  • @jasonhatt4295
    @jasonhatt4295 Před 4 lety +1

    2:52 Nick became a synth who thought he was human before it was fashionable!

  • @badopinionsrighthere
    @badopinionsrighthere Před 3 lety +1

    I kinda wish this questline involved using the memory den to go back and interact with the original Nick Valentine. Imagine plugging into his brain again to help him look for clues that he can't recall.

  • @mrfox2674
    @mrfox2674 Před 7 lety +13

    oxhorn you should be in fallout 5 as a merc for hire.

    • @thecolabaron
      @thecolabaron Před 7 lety +4

      someone should make a companion mod with Oxhorn

    • @mrfox2674
      @mrfox2674 Před 7 lety

      they should

    • @bobbyzangla9499
      @bobbyzangla9499 Před 7 lety

      John-Stanley McGovern I think there is one, if I find it again I'll link it

    • @bobbobaganoch3430
      @bobbobaganoch3430 Před 7 lety +1

      there's a mod for that

    • @Gamingturtle090
      @Gamingturtle090 Před 7 lety +1

      OMG yes he should be like a annoying know it all but as you get to know him he stops and let you kinda go into control. Oooooohh and he could have a family that he leaves to protect

  • @ashtng
    @ashtng Před 7 lety +3

    In one of the terminals at one of the places where you find the holotapes, (forgot which) there is an easter egg for GTA, it says "GTA (some numbers I think) - Car theft" or something like that

  • @wildcard5616
    @wildcard5616 Před 5 lety +8

    It took me the longest time to figure out why they got rid of the karma system, but I realize this:
    In fallout 4 nothing is so black and white, but rather everything is in shades of grey, the factions for instance, they each believe they are doing the right thing for the Commonwealth, yet there is no right answer.
    I could just by typing this because I'm drunk, but I believe getting rid of the karma system ironically actually makes people think about what is the right or wrong thing to do.

    • @Liz-cd8mz
      @Liz-cd8mz Před 5 lety +2

      Nah, you're a smart cookie. Don't doubt yourself.

    • @makenziebrennan4027
      @makenziebrennan4027 Před 5 lety +2

      Finally, someone that realizes that karma was stupid.

    • @askinredroads5132
      @askinredroads5132 Před 4 lety +1

      I actually never liked the karma system, for the simple fact that everyone’s morals are different, its hard to say whats “moral” and whats not, its all how the player views it.

  • @johnnytrapantino78
    @johnnytrapantino78 Před 4 lety

    Accidentally picked up the "To Claire" holotape in his hideout and couldn't find what it was called until I remembered your full walkthrough! Only place on the whole internet I could find it! Thank you!

  • @deltafoxecho
    @deltafoxecho Před 7 lety +64

    how did the pre war Valentine die??

    • @Harryjw67
      @Harryjw67 Před 7 lety +92

      Königstiger in a freak fidget spinner incident

    • @deltafoxecho
      @deltafoxecho Před 7 lety +4

      thats gotta kill man

    • @ingasparrow
      @ingasparrow Před 7 lety +54

      Königstiger After the death of his fiance, the original Nick Valentine was referred to a place for grief counseling. My best guess is that it likely turned out to be a place for harvesting people's brains for study. Maybe they just scanned his brain and let him go on his merry way. But this is Fallout we're talking about, so I'm not optimistic about that.

    • @EJ_Red
      @EJ_Red Před 7 lety +13

      ingasparrow and Lora Elstad have good points, but let's not forget the possibility that he was probably another victim of the Great War

    • @thomasclowater9471
      @thomasclowater9471 Před 7 lety +8

      Anal

  • @veronicahalcon2816
    @veronicahalcon2816 Před 7 lety +44

    Where I want in fallout games
    1: San Francisco
    2: Dallas
    3: Mexico city
    4: London
    5: Tokyo
    6: Chicago
    7: San Diego
    8: New york
    9:Ancorage
    10: Paris

    • @NSluiter
      @NSluiter Před 7 lety +11

      Ottawa, Quebec, Atlantis, North Korea

    • @ingasparrow
      @ingasparrow Před 7 lety +5

      Name Password If Fallout ever took place in Texas, Houston, San Antonio or El Paso would be more interesting with better lore.

    • @Newovar
      @Newovar Před 7 lety +2

      Do we know anything about what's going on in Europe? If Germany is (still) divided in the Fallout Universe, Berlin would be an interesting choice.

    • @NSluiter
      @NSluiter Před 7 lety +3

      The moon

    • @theaccursedj.e.2723
      @theaccursedj.e.2723 Před 7 lety +11

      New Orleans. Mutated gators. 'Nuff said.

  • @thecheesechapstm5417
    @thecheesechapstm5417 Před 4 lety +1

    The fact that nick went through all that just man Jesus it really changes your perspective on him

  • @ender_owl0724
    @ender_owl0724 Před 7 lety +1

    "Eddie, it's me your old friend, Shamus McFUCKYOURSELF!" I just love that line in the entire game

  • @trollman1296
    @trollman1296 Před 7 lety +77

    Can you level up your character in Fallout New Vegas so next time you upload a New Vegas lore video you can pick more dialogue options

    • @ingasparrow
      @ingasparrow Před 7 lety +1

      Troll Man In order to get Raul as a companion, high levels of lockpick, repair and science is a must. Repair makes settling things with Tabatha waaaaay easier and you get a better ending, too.

    • @Mr-Trox
      @Mr-Trox Před 7 lety

      Actually, you don't need jack shit to get Raul, you can use the other terminal to get the password from the last entry (123456789).
      Sure, you get a better ending if you fix Rhonda, but Raul is totally worth a worse ending.

    • @ingasparrow
      @ingasparrow Před 7 lety

      Mr. Trox I was referring to a better ending for Tabatha.

  • @NCRambassador
    @NCRambassador Před 7 lety +9

    yeah it is vengeance plain and simple there, nick's emotions were playing judge jury and executioner but that doesn't mean Winter's death is a bad thing.
    I mean it's not justice when I slaughter paradise falls but it is sure as hell a just action.

  • @slinkbradshaw8674
    @slinkbradshaw8674 Před 7 lety

    Man I stumbled onto these videos outta nowhere and haven't looked back. Made me dust off my copy of fallout. Great vids!

  • @SourGrey
    @SourGrey Před 4 lety

    Man Hooked on alll these fallout stories. Man glad i found them 2 years later...