Did Darvin Ham Make Budenholzer a Tough Sell For Lakers Fans? Would Mark Jackson Make Sense?
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2024
- How unpopular is Darvin Ham among Lakers fans?
Well, for starters, at least according to a poll on the show's CZcams page, fans would rather see Phil Jackson return-nearly 79 year old projector of intense "these teenagers need to get off my lawn" energy and once insulter of LeBron James Phil Jackson-than give the keys to Mike Budenholzer, who isn't any of those things and has won an NBA title and 50 games in a season multiple times.
Why?
Ham comes from the Budenholzer tree. It would mean firing the student to hire the teacher. And by about 2-1, Lakers fans favor Jackson in this scenario.
Of course, in theory none of this matters. Who cares what fans think, right? Well, the Lakers for starters. And not without cause. After this much churn on the bench, perception is important. Honeymoon periods are going to be very short, and the energy fans project around the new coach will shape coverage and narratives. It's obviously not the only thing, or even the most important thing, for the Lakers to consider, but optics are surely some kind of a factor in their minds.
So if Bud is out, what about Mark Jackson, a still-popular option among many Lakers fans? Not a great idea. We explain why.
HOSTS: Andy and Brian Kamenetzky
SEGMENT 1: Phil beats Bud!
SEGMENT 2: Why fan sentiment around the new coach is at least a consideration in El Segundo.
SEGMENT 3: Why Mark Jackson is a bad idea.
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Mark was let go purely for religious reasons and not for basketball reasons, he started the Warriors off in the right direction. If we can look past Udoka’s history (very RECENT history I might add) than why is it we don’t look past Mark’s? Didn’t we just have a coach who literally insulted his players on his way out? I don’t believe I ever heard a single negative thing out of Mark’s mouth for his team either. Dude has a history of taking accountability unlike what we just dealt with. He might not be the BEST coach available but he’s certainly not deserving of the mocking he’s receiving here. Poor taste guys
??????
Facts Mark Jackson is exactly what Lakers need to play smarter and use what they have and don't have 💯
Religion and faith?
Mark Jackson is 59 he's not that damn old what are u talking about? He made Golden State what it was! The disrespect for this man is savage ! He's better than everybody u just named! The decision to trade away Monte Ellis and keeping a injury prone Steph Curry at the time will go down as a Top 3 best decision in NBA history! Foh with the fake news hire the damn man! It's a good thing u two don't make any decisions!
Coaching that team that was young and energetic is different than coaching a team pacing itself because we can’t push our max guys all season and expect them to be at their best in the post season.
I would say do your own reading into why Mark Jackson got fired from GS and hasn't been hired for any spot in the past several years despite interviewing. Because I used to wonder too why he is not being hired then weeks ago did my own research and thought "Okay nah, he doesn't fit if thats the case."
I think he could potentially coach a younger division though and work his way back up.
Thank you, well said
Mark wasn’t the GM STOP IT
Mark Jackson should be the next coach!!!
Y'all unnecessary hate on Mark Jackson is WEIRD.
Mark Jackson is a winning coach.
Mark Jackson turned the G.S. Warriors around dramatically in one season.
Mark Jackson believes in both Offense and Defense.
Mark Jackson also has really good relationships in the league.
So AGAIN, what is the reason for your WEIRD disrespect for Mark Jackson. Clowns!
Coaching had nothing to do with why Mark Jackson is not a coach anymore
What is?
His faith
@@shannonrobinson4333 WOW! So is CA some non believing Christians? Sad! Mark Jackson is a pastor.
Mark Jackson deserves another chance in the NBA; he a smart guy that knows X’s and O’s and can, I believe can motivate this team!
I would love Mark Jackson.
Two clowns just don't know what they talking about....😳😳 I would pick more Jackson all day. He is very much in the loop
I’m disappointed by Andy and Brian .. besmirching Mark’s reputation based on “reports” that are over a decade old ..strange enough zero players have came out against Mark. Give me a break..Mark built the foundation of the golden state dynasty ..Give Mark is credit ..I bet Pat Riley is hard to work with as well.. this whole thing reeks of bias..Shame on you guys. Your better than this !! The fans have been exposed To mark for the large part of the last decades .. first as a play by play guy and now as a podcaster. We are not buying this stuff .. there are a lot of conservative religious people out there .. who are not being blackballed and there are a lot of successfully people out there who are “hard to work with “.. the question is does he know basketball and can he coach.. Mark is being done wrong here . He did not commit murder or rape ..
They literally said that those were just reports and they were so long ago that who knows how true they are
Right there with you just because he's a A strong conservative Christian man People can handle Ride away the bring in things that have nothing to do with basketball
exactly, the American politics right is conservative and don’t believe in gay or transgender rights. To disqualify someone from being employed because of their religious beliefs is unconstitutional. If mark did something that was so bad then reveal it, don’t just blackball this man . My god look at Udoka, he slept with every woman in the Celtics organization and was still rehired. I accept that he probably won’t be hired but to laugh at his candidacy is wrong .. he is a credible candidate .. and don’t tell me anything about his age..two 70 plus year old white males are running for the highest office in the land , greg popabich is damn near 70….. herb brown the broadcaster looks like a skeleton and ..Warren Buffet is running Burkshire H at 93… Mark is relatively young compared to those Gentlemen
Mark Jackson deserves another shot. Why not with the Lakers if we can’t get Lue? Bring Rondo and Reddick in as assistants
I love this idea
EXACTLY... lol - i made the EXACT same comment! Its Frank + Kidd all over again...
Reddick wont be Mark Jackson assistant
Mark Jackson is the best candidate available
No he's not. Plus Lebron wouldn't let him coach.
@@DanielTorres-pw8ilhe's a good candidate because Lebron couldn't control or disrespect him
not going to be coaching in NBA most likely church league.
Seriously? Because its been such a unstable revolving door at coach for the Lakers, what if absolutely no one is interested in even considering coaching the Lakers? ?🤔 what is our backup plan? JEANIE =INEPTITUDE/ rambi=INEPTITUDE/ rob=INEPTITUDE
Damn 💯
I love your show but I have to disagree with you guys on MJackson as a bad choice. Bud is the number one candidate for credit winning at Milwaukee forgets that Jason Kidd put the ball in Giannis hands and had him play in thw way that made him an MVP. MJ was the coach that put the GSW core together and called them " the greatest shooting backcourt in history". Bud is a horrible choice and your not giving MJ credit for creating the GSW core team. And let's rememeber the person MJ Hass to connect with on the Lakers is a 40 year old father of near adult children!
Yeah the condescending tone in the mentioning of his name and dismissive laugh rubs me the wrong way. To just poopoo a guy who built the foundation to a dynasty bachelor was a disciplinarian and demanded consistency in effort seems very shortsighted to me.
Let's not let Ham off the hook. Bring back the same team with a different coach to see the difference
My exact thoughts, but thy must add a legit big and move AD back to his natural position...
@@broderickjohnson1427thats not the same team then
@@j.s3300 it would still be the same core players returning. Moreover Ham did not utilize his big men properly, he had them sitting on the bench, leaving ad to do it all himself
So even if Ham had this luxury he would of found a way to mess it up
@@ShaunC29 your line up would have been?
Problem is that Mark Jackson has been available all the time Lakers have been looking for a coach.
Hire Mark he would.
Be a great coach
Hire Mark Jackson as HC. JJ Reddick as his assistant; and Rondo as a consultant.
I agree
If J.J. Redick can even be in any coaching conversation, then Rondo is good to go now...
Never gonna happen. Jackson is black balled . He will never coach again
@@sebfrett4004 ...
Not as long as Adam Silver is around with his "woke" agenda...
JJ would never be assistant of a coach like Mark Jackson.
I did my own brief research weeks ago about why Mark Jackson isn't being hired for any coaching jobs. And to make a long story short, he is not suitable for an NBA head coaching spot. Now Kenyon Martin offered a suggestion to Mark directly on if he would coach college and he said he is open to that too. I think he should start there and then hopefully work his way back. Because all the stuff that I read, some were true and some were alleged, you can't just drop back into a head coaching NBA like that after so long. And the reason why he hasn't been hired again is likely because those that interviewed suspected that he hasn't changed.
Cause he loves God🤔
We address that talking point in the show. Give it a watch. Thanks. AK
"I don't know why we wanna take the hardest road. I don't know why the man above gives me the hardest road, but ... the man above don't put you in situations that you can't handle." ... wait that's not Mark Jackson - that's Lebron James after winning game 7 vs G State. Interesting...
Last I checked ..Mark did not kill anybody , rape anybody , do drugs, commit treason , or incest .. this media character assassination has to stop!! Many of the most conservative religious groups in this county harbor the same beliefs as mark..says a lot about this county when drug addicts, rapists , racists , and sometimes murders get 2nd chance but a good man like mark does not. To me it’s a statement on who has power and who does it have power. We need to diversify the ownership of the NBA.. and the media ..
Hell fucking yea Mark Jackson would be a good fit
FACTS. not some yes man, someone with a SPINE. 💯💯💯
Like what Byron Scott said why don’t Jeanie just hire Lebron as a player coach that way there’s no one to blame no scapegoating! Bill Russell did it and they won championships too…
LeClutchSports wouldn’t want that because then he’s the one who will take the blame for the teams failures instead of a sacrificial coach
Mark Jackson is a no nonsense coach he won’t tolerate Lebron’s BS and not wanting to practice it wouldn’t work..
And if Lebron being up there in playing years is the reason he doesn’t want to practice then it’s time to retire.
A team can’t get better without practice or scrimmaging though out the season
Mark Jackson head coach JJ Reddick assistant coach 💯 been saying it for days unless Lue available this is the best option
Copy Paste from my comment: Mark Jackson (head coach) + JJ/Rondo (assistants) + Phil Handy (player dev).
Couldn't agree more!!! Ty Lue would be our coach if Rob wasn't an idiot... says no to Lue, yes to WestBRICK (thats not doing your job very well)
Couldn't agree more. Best comment
Lebron wouldn't allow Mark to coach thisbis laughable at best
I'm not against this at all!
I don’t think Bron would respect Jackson tbh I feel we would have rumors of jj or rondo taking over after every loss
I don't know why these 2 podcaster thinks it's funny, but Mark Jackson is a better coach than budenholzer
Mark Jackson was with a young group coming into their own. Coaching Lebron is a different animal. And the scrutiny that comes with coaching the Lakers and a guy with a rapidly closing window who happens to be a GOAT level player on an unprecedented run. It’s hard to yank a guy like Rui without criticism let alone AD or Lebron and truthfully there are times where even they need to be benched for rest of nothing else.
No
@@j.s3300Lebron is pure TRASH, forget the numbers. He NEVER impacts the game when it’s what magic called winning time. Watch the games and how Brunson and Antman impacted their team . Jedi lebron had 8 winnable game against the nuggets to show that .
Theyre not exactly the most knowledgeable basketball fans.
Mark Jackson was successful with the Warriors before he was fired.
David Fizdale, Who is currently an assistant coach with Phoenix.
Mark did a Great Job in Golden State; then they gave the job to Kerr! You don’t have to agree with his Faith! The Lakers need a strong, experienced leader & personality! To Boot the organization could use someone representing a lil Faith!!! 💪🏼❤️🔥
Wow. I respect you guys, but the way you guys crapped on Mark Jackson was a little shady. Sadly, Mark has been blackballed due to his faith. Him, being "old school "is a miserable excuse, because you have Thibs in New York, Pop in San Antonio.
Folks are whiny over a man that prays before a game? And yes, the new NBA agenda probably makes it hard for a guy like Mark Jackson...it's sad.
The religious element we referred to was about more than just Jackson praying before a game, which wouldn't be unusual at all. The NBA, for people unaware, offers pregame chapel services for players. The issue isn't that Jackson's a very religious man. Plenty of others in the league are as well. But there were reports/books from writers I trust about Jackson inserting his background as an ordained minister directly into the team culture while with the Warriors, whether trying to get players to attend his services or trying to cultivate an overtly religious environment in the locker room. To me, that's crossing a line. If people disagree, fine. But like I also said during the show, that's not really a big factor in why I don't think Jackson would be a good hire, because it's the easiest stuff to simply not do again. The reasons I focused on are related to basketball and people skills. Again, disagree with them if you want. That's cool. For real. But I want to make sure it's all in perspective. Appreciate you watching. AK
@@LockedOnLakers I can see your perspective on this, but I still won't budge on some of things that was said as far as why he shouldn't or wouldn't be a good candidate and it's funny that he can't be given grace to "change", but he's "been away too long or he's arrogant or whatever. " You guys basically fires the dude before he got seen...lol. But I digress...there have been worse coaches that have done things that have been conveniently swept under the rug, but Jackson is the worst candidate? Right....
@@Rustyblackleford Well, the "fired" thing was a genuine slip of the tongue (we'd been talking about so many fired Lakers coaches), and we just ran with it because it was funny.
I don't disagree that Jackson could be afforded another opportunity to show he's changed, but the fact remains that I'm wary of coaches who've been out of the game this long. (The same reason cited for why we'd both pass on, say, Jeff Van Gundy, who to the best of my knowledge has no "baggage," perceived or otherwise.) Could that create a catch-22 of sorts for Jackson? Perhaps, and maybe it's not entirely fair to him. But it doesn't change how I'd be uncomfortable with someone out of coaching that long, regardless of who they are.
You're also correct that other coaches with issues in their past - arguably worse stuff - have gotten hired despite those issues. But as I mentioned, the non-basketball issues linked to Jackson aren't a big factor in why I wouldn't hire him. They're genuinely not. (If they were, we'd just say it.) The pressing reasons are the ones we focused on, that are more directly linked to the job. Agree or disagree with them, that's totally cool. We didn't expect a consensus but wanted to address Jackson, because he's been brought up so often.
I appreciate the conversation here.
AK
@LockedOnLakers I don't trip about the slip of the tongue and the dialouge is cool and refreshing. So, I appreciate you guys.
I like Mark Jackson as a coach
the Lakers have a revolving door when it comes to new coaches
There are other channels that don’t disrespect M Jackson just saying guys! Now put Phil against Mark 😂
Mark Jackson should get another head coach job. He should not, however, take the Lakers job. That job is toxic.
Micah Nori's been impressive. That defense is incredible, though he would need a roster to support that defense. Pelinka does need to go.
This show is hilarious. You're trying to say Mark Jackson is a bad decision obviously these two people have Not played basketball at all or have been coaches. They're just probably people who talk to have Mark Jackson would be a blessing to have somebody to put the Lakers back on point with fundamentals. Think about it. That's what you have to work on during the season. That way during the playoffs. Your execution is top tier meaning nobody's even worrying about coming out plays cuz everyone's already moving in the right place, but at the same time you're still calling out plays. Of course you want. Mark Jackson how dare you guys disrespect this guy's name like that when you haven't even accomplished what he has accomplished and basketball. And that's something that you guys are talking about. That's very disrespectful
Putting aside that you’ve formed an opinion on our opinions without even hearing them first … by your own logic, unless you’re a former elite basketball player or coach (and unless you’re gonna reveal your identity with some proof and explanation why you’re posting now under a fake name, don’t bother trying to claim you are either of those, because I’m calling BS), then you have no business weighing in on this topic, either. So really, what are we doing here? You’re entitled to disagree with whatever you want with us, but at least do it smartly. That’s all I ask. AK
He/she has a valid point. You guys were doing the same thing all season in reference to what players you thought were less valuable. Low and behold those same players were extremely instrumental in helping them get into the playoffs and moving up. @LockedOnLakers
@@user-vk1nq9hx7v I don't follow what you mean by this. Can you rephrase or be more specific? Thanks. AK
Good take about a wack coach. I agree.
I totally disagree with anyone who thinks hiring Budenholzer is the same as Ham. That’s like saying Matt Patricia or Josh McDaniels is like hiring Bill Belichick. I’m not saying they should hire Darvin’s mentor.
I was really hoping for BASKETBALL REASONS as to why Mark Jackson couldn't be an ideal candidate. I didn't hear any... Mark Jackson played PG from the POST, a la LeBron James. He isn't a YES MAN, he would challenge Lebron... James NEEDS the FRICTION (Ty Lue used this to get even more out of LBJ). Steph Curry also gave Mark Jackson great reviews when asked about him... the lights are bright in LA, some assistant coach/1st timer will crumble.
Mark Jackson (head coach) + JJ/Rondo (assistants) + Phil Handy (player dev). 💯💯💯
We both did offer basketball reasons in the explanation. Like I said, I often disagreed with his basketball analysis as a broadcaster (obviously, that’s not appealing to me as a coaching candidate) and him being out of the game for so long, which can make for a difficult transition back. Among other stuff we said as well. If you disagree with all of that, that’s totally fine. But we did get into hoops. Appreciate you watching. AK
@@LockedOnLakers personally i prefer details... ie: Ham started 3 guards vs MASSIVE Denver team (in WCF last year) which left AR guarding MPJ at 6'10... so what did Jackson say as a broadcaster that was so off based (i watch the games with the sound off, to watch it in its pure form - and not to be swayed by commentary or the whistle)
I don’t remember off the top of my head examples of things Jackson said about last year’s WCF, if that’s what you’re asking. I have no idea if it was on TNT or ESPN, and if he was covering those games. AK
@@LockedOnLakers I'd really like some concrete basketball evidence if you remember, I'm not trying to be a jerk. (I'm a member of Rui Island, hated the WestBRICK deal, wanted Myles Turner trade, wanted Ty Lue... still do) - so we agree a lot on basketball moves/philosophy, and I'm sincere in wondering what Jackson said. Cuz Steph rly liked him (watched an interview about that today on all the smoke). Cheers - you guys do a great job btw, again not tryna hate.
@@LockedOnLakers He (Mark Jackson) not Steve Kerr built the Warriors Culture. Steve only finished his job. Steve was embarrassingly exposed as a coach with USA Basketball. Darvin Ham actually was a better coach than Steve Kerr that last 2 seasons...So, again what does that say about (your boy) Steve? Your reasons for not liking Mark are tremendously flawed. There is nothing wrong about being a Christian...let alone in your words "Overly Religious". This video is coming off as a poor reflection of your guy's character. Perhaps you should delete it. Lastly, you two probably can't even dribble a basketball...who are you to even speak on coaching?
Would love to know you guys thoughts on Adrian Griffin. He hadn't been mentioned.
Griffin's a very interesting question, because like Darvin, he's another guy who played in the league, built a rep as a very smart guy, paid his dues working as an assistant, and was widely viewed as a hot commodity to eventually get a shot. But once Griffin got it, he clearly lost that Bucks locker room in a HURRY. Like, shockingly fast. That said, even if it felt to some like the Bucks were winning despite Griffin rather than because of him, the team still did better under him than Doc. So Milwaukee's problems were/are about more than just Griffin. And it'll definitely require some good selling to get fans excited about a coach with connections to Ham/Bud who got let go so quickly. Overall, Griffin would be a challenging hire. Doesn't mean he couldn't end up a good hire anyway, but I would be extremely surprised if the Lakers went in that direction. Appreciate you watching. AK
Did you guys see Byron Scott on Undisputed yesterday? He had a very interesting take on who should be the next coach. CZcams itand give us your thoughts.
What makes MB different than DH is the fact that MB actually gives a s*** about rebounding
And all you people want to keep talking about everything else when the only thing that really matters to this team is not giving up second Chance points
You don't believe me go back for the past two full seasons. Look at every win and look at every loss. And yes I'm talking about the Westbrook time too
Nothing and I mean absolutely nothing determines whether or not this team wins more than how many second chance points they give up
As much as Bud is the current best candidate out there, didn't we forget about him getting fired by the Bucks. Even though he won championship with them, the narrative around him was that he was not a good coach and he cannot get over the hump. He might have been fired that year if Kyrie didn't get injured or if Chris Paul was healthy in the finals. Even some of his players has come out and said that he was not a great play-off coach.
Yes because the entire reason Bud ran into turbulent waters was because he couldn't make in game adjustments. Why would we go from a coach who had that as a major issue to another coach who has the same major issue?
Kenny Atkinson is a no nonsense guy who brings structure discipline and demands consistency of effort
Mark Jackson would be fired half way thru the season cause they can't handle his hard core ways and old school.
To be honest. This logic doesnt make sense and makes laker fans irrational. In the end of the day. Ham is his own man and just because he had a certain mentor. Doesnt mean he is going to do the exact same thing as his mentor. Using football logic. But before the chargers hired harbaugh. Do you think they wouldnt hire mcvay if he became avaialble just because staley didnt work out?
This is ridiculous.
After listening to Stephen A Smith pushing back on LeBron controlling his own narrative, it's apparent that Locked on Lakers have sold out to LeBron since you don't talk about no accountability
I’m really glad a Lakers channel I follow on CZcams explained why MJ wouldn’t be a great fit. Others I follow have a lot of MJ zealots saying he would be great and that the best argument they made was that he developed and had a heavy influence on the roster. Great. We don’t need a GM (yet). They also say he would command respect. Great. So did Darvin in year one. We really need a coach with a proven track record and more playoff success than MJ. If it’s an assistant, more diligence needs to be made in looking into their basketball mind/ xs and O’s.
Bud was a Pop student a Spurs assistant too but yeh they need to get someone with experience asap we need a scouting plan for the draft
Mark Jackson would be great
Did anyone see the video collection of LeBron, AD and Russell basically disrespecting D. Ham throughout his tenure? Crazy and shameful. LeBron is a terrible leader.
JJ's 8-year-old team. He would rather have them shooting 3's then committing turnovers. Works for me.
Has anyone inquired about the possibility of Coach Mike Krzyzewski and asked JJ Redick as one of the assistants? For the Lakers
The Lakers give up 15 second chance pts per game
They usually come in bunches
And that stretch is where they lose almost every single game
You guys can talk for hours and hours about a million different things including the coaching, but you need to realize all of that other stuff combined doesn't equal this
You put a true big/ rebounder on this team and I guarantee you It helps more than anything else more than any other player, even Superstars
the coach needs to play the big tho... Ham didnt wanna play Rui even, he loved small ball. Wood/AD were great together - but never got mins together.
***edit: i 1000% agree with you, rebounding the greatest issue... point of attack defense the 2nd biggest issue***
@@schmitkeoriginals
Yes I have always said that even if we had that big I had no faith that Ham would actually put him
That said I don't think it matters with Rui
He's weak, he's soft, he plays beneath his size and is terrible rebounder for that size.
@@LN-Lifer i mean i wanna trade D Lo/AR/Rui for Markenan/Sexton ... I'm just saying what was better with what was available....
I wanted a TRUE BIG, I've always said this, my preference was doing the Myles Turner deal.
We're in COMPLETE agreement here.
@@schmitkeoriginals Markkanen is too good of a person to ever demand a trade, but he doesn't want to hold the record of most games played without play-off experience either, so that could be pursuited.
@@harrikilpinen1487 he doesn't have to demand out, he's in his last year of his contract... Ainge will deal him rather than lose him (LA needs to give up the picks!)
Easily mark Jackson. Bufenholzer is a confused puppy and phil can't coach in this era especially at 80.
Mark jackson the guy why. Timing he’s counted out black balled he’s got something to prove so does the lakers pray we get him
Mark is a good coach! Period
Always good to have a nice Star Wars reference
It would be ironic if Coach Bud brought in Darvin as an assistant coach. HA! HA! HA!
7 coaches since 2011? The utter ineptitude of the FO is truly shocking. Jeanie sure has not followed her pop's footsteps. Geesh!
Hire mark please
We all know why they don't want Mark. SMH
Lakers look no where else. Give it to Coach James 😂😂😂
Phil would be relating to grandkids
So many Mark Jackson supporters 😂. Outside of haven't coached in a very long time, JVG at least did team USA.
The blackballing of Mark was that he was a bit too weird about his faith. As in it was reported that he was using the GSW facility to so it. Also for a man who was of faith, he was blackmailed by a stripper after meeting her at gentleman's club. The extortion case had the police involved. Stuff made the news, but is never really talked about on ESPN, since he worked there.
People aren't blackballed for no reason.
All of this sounds nice but Lebron and AD have to be onboard or it’s going to fail
The Suns saved the Lakers and us fans.
It should be Phil Handy imo.
Stop blaming for not hiring Lue, we won the 2020 championship. Ham's hiring was the critical mistake! Rajon Rondo should be our next coach with Terry Stotts as assistant. No to Bud and JJ.
Rondo would be SICK... just think the legal stuff will keep the Lakers away (same as they did with Kidd)
Bud is not a good coach he’s the Dave Roberts of the NBA. I said this when the Bucks won before we hired a Ham. I don’t care that he has a ring.
I can't understand why they think its so funny to bash and disrespect Mark Jackson like that. Mark Jackson has more experience and a great mind for basketball then any other candidate. Kenny Atkinson ran from another opportunity to coach to stay with Golden State so why would we want him? Obviously, he's not confident in his coaching skills. You two are a joke thinking that was funny to disrespect Mark Jackson.
We weren’t mocking Mark Jackson. I sincerely ask you to listen again. Any time we were laughing during a conversation about Jackson, it was actually us making fun of the Lakers for never being able to land on a coach who sticks. The way we spoke about Jackson himself was respectful. You can disagree with our opinions about why we wouldn’t hire him, and that’s totally fair game, but we didn’t make jokes about him at all. Thanks. AK
And bring back Phil Handy assistance
So CZcams lock on Laker host
No Mark. He is stuck in the past! He is a Bron hater and jealous of his accomplishments. He still believes MJ is the GOAT! Why would GOAT James want that BS coaching him!
Listen to Mark’s pod, Mark isn’t a Bron hatter.
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Mark Jackson was and is blackballed by some Gay people in the league.
Marc Jackson
You guys talk like the Lakers have a big choice no one wants a job with LeBron on the team and know eventually they will be criticized constantly or eventually fired
I'm so glad we have black people to cover our own people
The next coach must be selected by a game of monopoly go 😅
MARK JACKSON LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He’s a Mark Jackson hater I’m tuning off !
Hey guys if Jeannie would've hired tylue in the first place the last 4 years would've been 💯 times better but she has done a horrible job but being a woman she gets a pass her father must be rolling over in his grave, well if Mark Jackson has been Black Balled that would explain why he hasn't worked but after listening to you two Jeannie and the Lakers are getting exactly what they deserve and Lebron is a fool for staying there 😎
Go Lakers
For the love of Christ, leave Mark Jackson out of these talks. Also, Brian believing Lakers fans would vote for Bud is adorable. We're such an irrational fanbase, what did you expect my friend? Haha!
Hey Andy and Brian,
Why not Terry Stotts? 🤔
Got him fired already just the idea .😂😊
What do you guys know 😵💫
All these dudes do is laugh the whole show
The only reason you have a show. Is because your a company guy
Will definitely be watching this one. I think Mark Jackson would be a terrible hire. He built the Warriors but his playoff wins with them are 9 in two years (matching Darvin’s!) and he is similar to Darvin and Doc Rivers as being more ra ra than X’s and O’s. He couldn’t win a championship with them, then a less experienced coach takes them over and wins multiple rings, you have to ponder the efficiency. If we go with someone inexperienced as a head coach, someone needs to be brought in to ask scenario type questions vs the usual character questions. They need a coaching consultant for the process, but they’re too stubborn to ask anyone for help.
Some of these comments have racial overtones. Many fired coaches keep getting second-third chances.
I watch your show on a regular but I disagree with you guy's opinion about Mark Jackson. Not sure why you would laugh about a Mark Jackson hire. I guess I will be unfolding this podcast very distasteful, and disrespectful.
When did we laugh about the idea of hiring him? The only time we laughed at all discussing Jackson was when I accidentally said "firing Mark Jackson" rather than "hiring," but that was a slip of the tongue because of how much we'd been talking about coaches getting fired by the Lakers. The punchline was the Lakers' inability to hire a coach and me for having a Freudian slip. Honestly, the only person we *weren't* laughing at there was Mark Jackson. If there's another example you wanna offer up, please do, but I don't think we were disrespectful towards Jackson at all, even if you disagree with the reasons we wouldn't hire him.
Hope you keep watching the show.
AK
@@LockedOnLakers You guys don't have the guts to tell the truth about why Mark can't even get an interview with any NBA team today. Not for coach, not for janitor. You mentioned "The elephant in the room." But that elephant is not Mark. It's those that influence the NBA to an obscene extent that a good Black man can't even work in the NBA because he's not "modern" or he's potentially "problematic." He might "offend" some.
Can Mark have a job in the NBA? Dishwasher if lucky? Can he interview without a sh*tstorm hissy fit being kicked up about it? Just an interview! Have some backbone and at least say the TRUTH.
Insulted LeBron ? He’s a wise man… I’d say he was speaking very insightful!! He’d be the only person that would have the Laker players attention! Success speaks for itself!
Player/Coach ..Bring it back so the mighty Lebron James can show everyone hows it done...Face the fact Lebron James is the main problem with the Lakers..Cry baby james
So you’re shaming Mark Jackson for being religious just as you shamed the unvaccinated because you were so sure it was safe effective and free. It is none of those things… stay in your lane… stay out of politics. look at all of the positive feedback you got from Marc Jackson, and then take a look in the mirror.
So y'all hate on Mark Jackson.
But speak about Phil Jackson as if he has ever proven himself as a coach without having the 2 of the top players in their position on his team (kobe, Shaq and Jordan, Pippen). Even then, his team wins were not contributed to him. It was because of his Players. Phil has NOT proven himself as a real coach. Stop the foolishness. Your bias is showing. Clowns
Your takeaway from this show was us lobbying for Phil Jackson? You should probably give it a second, more careful listen. AK
@@LockedOnLakers.... No, I didn't say you all were lobbying for him. But you were giving him unnecessary praise, as if he a coaching bar for anyone to follow.
And if he's not even a realistic option, then why so much unnecessary decision about him? He's been getting mentioned a lot lately. Then are actual qualified and available coaches that y'all could spend more time on. But that's just my opinion.
@@mrdee6076 A) We didn't really give Phil Jackson any praise during the discussion, other than acknowledging his resume, which is obviously impressive by any objective measure, and B) You're missing or ignoring the point of why Phil came up to begin with, which was the optics challenge of Budenholzer having been Darvin's mentor. As we repeatedly said, bringing back Phil would be an insanely ridiculous choice. And he still got more votes than Bud, who's clearly the more sensible choice, if you have to pick between the two. That's what we were getting at. This was ultimately a discussion about the potential trickiness for candidates connected to Darvin, not about Phil.
AK
@@LockedOnLakers.... Ok. So then why all the unnecessary Mark Jackson hate?
Mark Jackson has done what Phil hasn't, and that's the fact that he took a trash team and turned them around in one season with NO stars.
@@mrdee6076 I don't think the way we talked about Mark Jackson constituted "hate." We offered reasons why we don't think he's a good idea. If you disagree with those reasons, that's sincerely fine. But I think they were all sensible, and none of them had anything to do with Phil. If you're framing this as us making a comparison between the Jacksons, you're not accurately reflecting what we said. One guy has zero to do with the other. There's no reason for us to compare them. AK
It's befuddling how Redick can be considered an NBA coaching prospect when his play in the league never exhibited any action that would reflect this. Rajon Rondo, however....
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Anyone who believes Mark Jackson should coach the Lakers started watching basketball in 2015.
This show is so boring. Two guy speaking in the most monotonous tones, while attempting to see whose humor can be drier. Boring show. There are promos every 6 to 7min.
On top of that, these guys don’t like mark jackson due to his tenure in GS? What about Buds end in Milwaukee? Typical boring ass white sports writers with an outdated view and little to no inside information. They just report what they see and hear. Get some better more interesting guys on here or this locked in lakers will be stuck with minimal views. I rather watch the guys at Lakers Nation, or even the new guy “Lakers as it stands” I think his channel is. I miss laker talk with Mikey. The dude on the volume who’s laker fan is awesome too. I never thought hearing about the lakers could be boring. Thanks to these brothers, I’ve now experienced it🤢.
Mark Jackson sucks, he messed up the warriors, when Kerr arrived right after him he changed that program
Look at the warriors record with mark Jackson and right after him when Steve Kerr arrived
Look at the Warriors before Jackson arrived and look at the transformation they made under him. By the time Kerr arrived Jackson had completely changed the culture and started their winning ways. I saw it firsthand.
go listen to Steph talk about M Jackson...