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  • The Flash's original ending has been revealed. Two deleted versions of the ending! Henry Cavill’s time as Superman may be over, however his character still existed in the Flash film but was supposed have a much bigger part to play in the film’s ending. Now The flash has just been released in theatres and DC fans have a lot of questions. As soon as I left that theatre I felt that the ending to movie felt out of place and that’s because it was not supposed to be that way.
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  • @Mr_Stag
    @Mr_Stag Před 11 měsíci +2861

    The ending was stupid we want Cavill and Affleck.

    • @pedropulido2352
      @pedropulido2352 Před 11 měsíci +79

      hell yeah

    • @dermilchmann3655
      @dermilchmann3655 Před 11 měsíci +51

      Yes!

    • @smartchai
      @smartchai Před 11 měsíci +1

      EXACTLY ! Because the idiots in charge of DC properties at WB & James Gunn are stupid people !
      #FireJamesGunn
      #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

    • @joesun8853
      @joesun8853 Před 11 měsíci +54

      yeah man^^! i don't watch the movie because this is not Zack's movie^^! goodluck Gun...

    • @canisgraffias199
      @canisgraffias199 Před 11 měsíci +40

      Fash is just temporary stuck in another timeline. He will eventually come back to his real timeline. That is what I understood by his conversation with “ drunk Poseidon”. The alternate version of Aquaman .

  • @NeHoMaRG
    @NeHoMaRG Před 8 měsíci +711

    Everybody loves Henry Cavill as Superman, it's impossible to understand why film makers don't continue doing movies with him.

    • @funguy8801
      @funguy8801 Před 7 měsíci +28

      No, we really don't! ... Christopher Reeve was much better. Henry Cavill never really played a legitimate version of that character. Just some depressing emo punk.

    • @NeHoMaRG
      @NeHoMaRG Před 7 měsíci +129

      With "We", you mean "You". Because you must be the only one in the entire world not loving Henry Cavill. "Depressing emo punk"? are you sure you are not talking about Batman?

    • @hughg.reckson6843
      @hughg.reckson6843 Před 7 měsíci +11

      @@funguy8801 enough chatter. take him out of his grave and resurect him!

    • @andytay5507
      @andytay5507 Před 7 měsíci +26

      @@funguy8801 YOU are NOT 'WE'!

    • @funguy8801
      @funguy8801 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@andytay5507 YE are not WE!

  • @fozzybare100
    @fozzybare100 Před 4 měsíci +46

    I would've like to have seen the original ending as well. But, the ending they gave made a strange sort of sense in saying that no matter how Barry thought he put things right, messing with time has consequences.

  • @jasonlloyd3335
    @jasonlloyd3335 Před 5 měsíci +34

    Really sad to hear Ben wanted to continue. He had it in him to be a great Batman. He was in a terrible point in his real life while shooting JL especially and he is in a much better place now. He admitted he didn't do the role justice but he loves the character and i think the Afleck directed and staring as Batman solo film would of been fantastic. Here's hoping down the road he can perhaps be the Bruce in a Beyond adaptation. It really pisses me of two great and passionate fans of there roles in Ben and Henry got treated so poorly. The joy Henry showed after finally donning the cape again was heartwarming but then his huge obvious sadness just days later gutted me. Cavill is a dude and deserved better.

    • @trevorberridge6079
      @trevorberridge6079 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I never got why some people underrated Affleck's Batman. He was absolutely perfect. But, he was being undermined by trolls since before he even appeared on screen. I guess there's just some Affleck haters out there or maybe it's just those entitled fans who think THEIR Batman should be the only one ever. It was great seeing Michael Keaton back (one of several actors to play a major character in both DC and Marvel), but that's no excuse for anyone to downgrade how good Affleck was. It would be nice if Affleck got to do a Brandon Routh and come back at some point as another version of his character. But, quite honestly, if I was either Affleck or Cavill I would tell the new bosses at Warner they can stick their capes where the sun don't shine. Appalling treatment. But that's Hollywood.

    • @andywellsglobaldomination
      @andywellsglobaldomination Před 3 měsíci +1

      He was a damned good Bruce Wayne but a middling Batman.

    • @robertharper9094
      @robertharper9094 Před 19 dny

      ​@@trevorberridge6079Affleck is easily unlikable I do like him as Batman but in real life and other movies a real douche bag

  • @andrewmathews1431
    @andrewmathews1431 Před 11 měsíci +779

    Give me Cavill Affleck and Gadot. I want the REAL TRINITY

    • @theoneyouhatetolove2310
      @theoneyouhatetolove2310 Před 11 měsíci +11

      Aquamarine & cyborg: are we a joke to you? 😂

    • @angelally1918
      @angelally1918 Před 11 měsíci +18

      ​@@theoneyouhatetolove2310yes

    • @badhonovi8554
      @badhonovi8554 Před 11 měsíci

      Yes i want to😅

    • @mattstansbeary3068
      @mattstansbeary3068 Před 11 měsíci +12

      WB: Shut up and Give us your Money. I could careless if you like it.

    • @alsimmons4504
      @alsimmons4504 Před 11 měsíci

      Just Cavill minus Gadot and Affleck? Meh, didn't really mean much if I'm honest lol.

  • @bobbybelcher
    @bobbybelcher Před 11 měsíci +268

    Getting rid of cavill is a huge mistake. I’m 48 and loved Reeves as Superman but Cavill is the best ever. He’s made for that part. He is Superman and always will be

    • @alphanerd7221
      @alphanerd7221 Před 8 měsíci +7

      Cavil sucks and that character wasn't even Superman.

    • @ThePreCrisisWeeklies
      @ThePreCrisisWeeklies Před 8 měsíci +3

      We quite agree Bobby; perhaps he'll be brought back later as an older, grayed version from another Earth!

    • @markverani5088
      @markverani5088 Před 8 měsíci +4

      ​@@alphanerd7221What makes you say that? Who do you think would be a better superman?

    • @alphanerd7221
      @alphanerd7221 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@markverani5088 Cavil's Superman is a self involved moper with no sense of humor or personal responsibility.
      Dean Cain, Brandon Routh, George Reeves, Ben Affleck as George Reeves, Tim Daly, Christopher Reeve, ect.

    • @markverani5088
      @markverani5088 Před 8 měsíci +12

      @@alphanerd7221 That's what I thought. You don't like that Man of Steel went beyond the usual fun to actually take a critical look into the psyche of a kid growing up with such powers and how the sense of responsibility and need for anonymity were built. You want a very happy orphan who was just all round contented to be loved. One who never had a conflict about why he was so different. You don't want to explore the amount of self-control it takes for such a kid to not destroy every kid who angers him when he can have absolutely no consequences.
      I'm sorry, but Man of Steel is the most realistic portrayal of how a near human person with such values comes to be.
      No one who is significantly different from everyone else only has a fun time of it. And it's that much more difficult if you want to conceal who you are. Take a good look at Demi Lovato and others like her. I actually thought Keke Palmer was surprisingly balanced until recent events showed she wasn't as fortunate as I thought.
      If you want light-hearted stuff, Marvel is it. The DC comics world is on a different frequency. This is the realistic representation of a superman who might become a tyrant if he loses some people dear to him and decides to really have a balanced look at humanity. This is the Superman that is going to enter a fist fight with Batman. The events of Man of Steel make it entirely reasonable for batman to find ways to kill superman.
      The truth is you wanted a joyous story with a superman in a world of good people, criminals who just are uncomplicated bad guys, and megavillains, capable of giving superman a little bit of a challenge. That isn't the world we live in. In a realistic world, the bullies of his age and reporters seeking to make a name; witch hunters afraid of what is different seeking to destroy and ostracise; those are the influences that will dominate unless the Kents could bring him up the way it was done in Man of Steel.

  • @simplytrece
    @simplytrece Před 8 měsíci +73

    Totally agree! They should have not deleted Gal Gadot (as Wonder Woman), Henry Cavill (as Superman) and Ben Affleck (as Batman) and they should have made some scenes to keep the excitement to look forward on to the next DC movies.. Totally dismayed when I left the cinema.. WB should really be taking this seriously if they really want to get DC reign over past Marvel movies.

    • @patrickhillis6599
      @patrickhillis6599 Před 5 měsíci

      I'm just waiting for them to make Wonder Woman black / Batman transgender and Superman is God only knows what these woke idiots will come up with

    • @taichichuansifurob
      @taichichuansifurob Před 4 měsíci +6

      How about a real cliffhanger of a climax with the Flash going to Wayne Manor, that was being set up as a Hall of Justice in one of the movies, Barry opening the doors, and seeing a number of heroes from the different universes in their costumes. CGI the heroes that have passes but could you imagine every DC hero, including the oes from the Arrowverse! Would be quite a shot! Unite the universes and then you could take the films in any direction you wanted, TV, animated, or movies.

    • @stevesurfaro
      @stevesurfaro Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@taichichuansifurob #Brilliant. And because it is, James Gunn will never do it.

  • @grahamgreene4141
    @grahamgreene4141 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Hes officially the best Superman.

  • @v1nc3nt_bl4ck4
    @v1nc3nt_bl4ck4 Před 8 měsíci +690

    Cavill is a perfect fit for superman. It’s likes he was made for the role. He even looks like comic book superman!

    • @lannierose
      @lannierose Před 8 měsíci +17

      and for Witcher!

    • @rockyou9967
      @rockyou9967 Před 8 měsíci +12

      the guy that will replace henry as superman (David Corenswet) kinda looks like a younger version of him.

    • @marriselv4784
      @marriselv4784 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@rockyou9967Saw his pic, he’s gorgeous like Henry

    • @rbbrum110
      @rbbrum110 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yeah he's a better choice than Reeves, but Snyder has different plans for the DCU I heard

    • @v1nc3nt_bl4ck4
      @v1nc3nt_bl4ck4 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@rbbrum110 u got to give it to Reeves, man went in with a large blue sweater to trick the casting agents and refused to take steroids. Cavill refused to take steroids and it was apparently a stipulation of his contract that he wasn’t allowed any performance enhancing drugs as if it came out that the guy playing superman took steroids to get that way it would be bad publicity. Got to give it to Cavill man really fills out that suit!

  • @gvensariol3132
    @gvensariol3132 Před 11 měsíci +174

    Super bummed about this change. Henry Cavils Superman was the best and still had so much more story inside him.

    • @HellfireHellesto
      @HellfireHellesto Před 8 měsíci +4

      Mmmm I cant get onboard his being the best. However, imo he looks the abaolute best hands down AND had the potential to be the best. But was never given the right material to make that true. He deserved better movies.

  • @commissarx
    @commissarx Před 8 měsíci +7

    The way time works in this movie is a actually pretty simple if you follow Wayne's instructions in the kitchen scene. Going back to change ANYTHING in the past sends a ripple into the future (what you changed) and backwards (what the universe changed to make up for the event that shouldn't of happened). This ripple that goes backwards goes ALL the way back, to the beginning of time, hence why you get completely different timelines (like Nick Cage superman lol). Barry, learning nothing throughout the movie decided to change the present AGAIN by saving his dad (since he couldn't bear to lose both his parents) by tampering with the shelving to put the tomatoes on top. So in this universe his father is freed, while in his original timeline his father likely goes away for a murder he didn't commit. I honestly don't think there is a way for him to even fix this issue, according to the movies' logic, any changes to the past creates a new universe (so essentially Barry is a God) with completely different histories. What I mean by this is even if he goes back to change the cans to their original places he might get another new universe, with Robert Pattinson as Batman!
    The director took the lesser of two evils by following the movies logic to a T, even if some of us don't like it (I thought it was a fun ending) and we'll see how the next movie sorts it out, or, whether it was just a fun way of wrapping up those actors by dumping them in an alternate reality where they can be plucked for cameos later on 😆

  • @danieldavis6288
    @danieldavis6288 Před 4 měsíci +22

    I hope we get to see more of Sasha Calle. Getting at least one movie of her in gold and white as Power Girl could be amazing.

    • @TheWPhilosopher
      @TheWPhilosopher Před 3 měsíci +7

      Agreed. Her and Keaton saved the movie from being a complete car crash.

    • @Pantherazure
      @Pantherazure Před měsícem +2

      Hmm... So you'd like to see her acting or are you a man of culture?

    • @Pantherazure
      @Pantherazure Před měsícem +2

      @@TheWPhilosopher True

    • @TheWPhilosopher
      @TheWPhilosopher Před měsícem +2

      @@Pantherazure bit of both actually

    • @danieldavis6288
      @danieldavis6288 Před měsícem +3

      I second the fourth reply. I fancy a bit of both. 😎

  • @daveac130
    @daveac130 Před 11 měsíci +1495

    My take on the ending is that if Clooney was Batman, it meant that Flash was still in the wrong dimension. I would have much preferred an Affleck and Cavill ending.

    • @frodo322
      @frodo322 Před 11 měsíci +32

      It could have been just a joke, and then justify it and explain it in a sequel. Now there most likely won’t be a sequel so we’ll never know. Hopefully dvd edition has the alternative ending?

    • @The1stCapedCrusaders
      @The1stCapedCrusaders Před 11 měsíci +60

      The ending we got was also a sneaky way gunn and wb could give ezzras flash character a happy ending in the cloony-vers that way they don't have to use ezzra Miller anymore :( and can easily recast the flash character

    • @RAGSTAluvsDA90z
      @RAGSTAluvsDA90z Před 11 měsíci +31

      Basically this movie was a waste of time

    • @daveac130
      @daveac130 Před 11 měsíci +34

      Did anyone wait until the very end after all the end credits with the Ezra and Aquaman scene? Another waste of time!! lol

    • @TheCollectorCave
      @TheCollectorCave Před 11 měsíci +25

      Mine too. But they trolled us and Ezra hard. Ending it knowing we are in Clooney's Batman world?!? That's the last thought we have of this movie. Batman & Robin. And leaving Ezra Miller in that world, never to be seen again?!? Hardcore trolling right there!

  • @shubhangbahadur7112
    @shubhangbahadur7112 Před 11 měsíci +542

    Finally when DC was starting to make sense and deliver good movies, with Keaton’s Batman and Sasha’s Supergirl entering main DCU and *Cavill’s Superman* returning, James Gunn nuked the hell out of the The Flash’s ending! I’m speechless seeing such a *WTF ending* to such a great movie!

    • @clonejoe23
      @clonejoe23 Před 11 měsíci

      Gunn is trying to squeeze his posse into the dceu.. You just wait and see how he will shoehorn chris pratt, karen gillian, batista, his brother and his wife into the dceu..

    • @darkseid6898
      @darkseid6898 Před 11 měsíci +1

      The Flush is CANCER. Only sheeple pay for that kind of leftist indoctrinating propaganda. Nobody needs a reboot, a new Superman or a brownwashed SuperTomboy with a lesbo haircut and a cheap suit. The "humour" is terrible. The 2 Barrys are cringe AF. Affleck and Keaton are there for just 15 minutes. The CGI is even WORSE than that of JOSStice. The plot has NOTHING to do with the original Flashpoint story. Finally, both Ezra Miller and James Gunn are P3D0PHILES who should be in JAIL. #BoycottWBD

    • @jonathanhill3668
      @jonathanhill3668 Před 11 měsíci +20

      Bescuse he is rebooting Sherlock

    • @xang9093
      @xang9093 Před 11 měsíci

      @@jonathanhill3668 the movie sucks that's all. gunn sucks hard. all loser club films. we need quality content not cheap stuff to attract gen z.

    • @facelesshalo5174
      @facelesshalo5174 Před 11 měsíci +46

      This is why, despite James Gunn's great track record. I cannot be invested in DC anymore. It's not a short thing they're planning. I don't want to wait another DECADE to see if this goes anywhere. Yeah I saw the Flash. The entire thing kept having me feel "This would be a great launching point to Explore new stories without uprooting the last decade of work" but they uprooted it all and didn't even use the characters they should/could have because of it.

  • @michealschrum6076
    @michealschrum6076 Před 3 měsíci +10

    I loved the ending because I've always held that Tim Burton's Batman movies were not connected to Joel Schumacher's "sequels". The Clooney cameo proves that he is not just another actor playing the same role, but a Batman from an alternate universe. Finally, justice for Keaton's Batman!

  • @iunderstanphotography2780
    @iunderstanphotography2780 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Saw it last night
    I enjoyed the Flash movie despite all of the bad press from Ezras antics
    I would have been nice if we didn't know about Keatons Batman in advance. He was great in this timeline
    absolutely loved Supergirl!!
    The fact that everyone died in this storyline made things better and raised the stakes much more. It gave a reason for Barry to go insane and try endlessly to fic the timeline
    sadly because of the studio and changes in direction, actors, etc , the movie got changed and we will not be able to have any further continuity. We have to look at this movie as a one off and not a part of a series. DCU cannot get back on track to save its life
    Another question, if Kryptonians are immune to conventional injury when they come here (bulletproof etc) How was Zod able to "stab" Kara? or use his gene code extracting device? in Man of Steel he had to put Clark in that Kryptonian atmosphere to take his blood

  • @BigSlimyBlob
    @BigSlimyBlob Před 11 měsíci +866

    Cavill, Affleck and Gadot were all very good in their roles. Corrupting the film just to introduce bad changes was a very foolish move, and I'm not sure how they could have not realized that.

    • @davidstone-haigh4880
      @davidstone-haigh4880 Před 11 měsíci +9

      $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ my friend. Blinds us all.

    • @bradsmith1314
      @bradsmith1314 Před 11 měsíci +19

      agreed kara acted well though

    • @robertearley8782
      @robertearley8782 Před 11 měsíci +23

      This is why DC can’t ever get there foot off the ground.

    • @lorihamilton6233
      @lorihamilton6233 Před 11 měsíci +21

      Flash sucked except for Keaton Batman and Supergirl

    • @robertearley8782
      @robertearley8782 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@lorihamilton6233 I’ve been hearing this by several people.

  • @clanrocks137
    @clanrocks137 Před 11 měsíci +728

    I feel really bad/upset for Sasha Calle. She truly put her heart into the film bringing Supergirl to life and she has said in interviews how she feels Supergirl was written in the stars for her and would absolutely love to be back as the girl of steel!

    • @Matt-ht8mc
      @Matt-ht8mc Před 11 měsíci +33

      she looks so ridiculous in that role, she is wimpy looking. one of the worse characters ever picked. no one cares what she feels or thinks if she can't fit the role.

    • @liamerolduffy7738
      @liamerolduffy7738 Před 11 měsíci

      Blame WB for making the previous dc films shit and for defending the peephole flash guy.

    • @Bagelking3900
      @Bagelking3900 Před 10 měsíci +25

      I think Ms.Marvel haircut is worse than this casting

    • @jasong273
      @jasong273 Před 10 měsíci +16

      @@Matt-ht8mc Haven't seen it probably won't, not a fan of Ezra Miller's flash or this new Director Gunn.. just because you were successful in one superhero franchise doesn't mean success will translate to another. Already doubting I will watch any of his works already.
      Sure I feel bad for Sasha Calle, same thing with Henry Cavill whose performances as Superman were all time great but he just got stuck with directors who mucked up the stories and casting (Affleck). Zack Snyders work was not as poor as people treated it though.. Man of Steel to me was near perfection and the 2nd half of BvS made that movie pretty good in my book, The Justice league synder cut was really good... Besides I never got to see Henry Cavil's superman rip Ben Afflecks head off which would have made me happy as hell to see lol.

    • @LightLifeOfTaorAndShiva
      @LightLifeOfTaorAndShiva Před 10 měsíci +90

      Word. She was awesome. My kids and I were fans of supergirl series, but Sasha's portrayal in Flash brings a refreshing depth and darkness to the character. I mean (spoiler alert), her planet blows up, she's orphaned and imprisoned on Earth, finds out baby cousin - her raison de'tre - is dead. More Ms. Calle please.

  • @user-jv8uo3pt8i
    @user-jv8uo3pt8i Před 5 měsíci +3

    It's was bad opinion to remove Henry from the story line we need him back he's my hero❤

  • @sipnscoot3049
    @sipnscoot3049 Před 4 měsíci +11

    I agree. Reeves was the OG. I’m 47 and I still rewatch all those movies he was in. Still gives me goosebumps!

  • @funkydonut3838
    @funkydonut3838 Před 11 měsíci +237

    For me:
    Best ending = De Luca and Abdy's
    Worst ending = Hamada and Emmerich's

    • @dermilchmann3655
      @dermilchmann3655 Před 11 měsíci +4

      For me too

    • @Weirdbrit
      @Weirdbrit Před 11 měsíci +1

      doesn't seem that way

    • @funkydonut3838
      @funkydonut3838 Před 11 měsíci +9

      @@Weirdbrit Like I said, 'For me'.

    • @erriwibowo
      @erriwibowo Před 11 měsíci

      For me too. Worst ending is this Flash vbersion. Hamada is second worst.

    • @splurg519
      @splurg519 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Agreed. I strongly prefer De Luca and Abdy's Ending

  • @E.willzz
    @E.willzz Před 11 měsíci +194

    Man Deluca is the only one with common sense

    • @dermilchmann3655
      @dermilchmann3655 Před 11 měsíci +14

      The truth has been spoken

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 Před 11 měsíci +38

      He and Abdy should be heading DC.

    • @Whyyoulooking45
      @Whyyoulooking45 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Bruh a Snyder fan out side of twitter!!! Such a rare occurrence

    • @jasonhearn5818
      @jasonhearn5818 Před 11 měsíci +5

      The original intentions of getting rid of Cavil of Affleck weren't good either ...the film was probably better off staying shelved but WB wanted to try and recoup that money spent

    • @TheFunnyGuy9000
      @TheFunnyGuy9000 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Deluca hired Gunn😊

  • @pauldemello6611
    @pauldemello6611 Před 8 měsíci +2

    "Now I have become Death, the destroyer of worlds" (DCEU), James Gunn

  • @83n80y
    @83n80y Před 7 měsíci +1

    Why is this confusing? Spoiler alert: Barry moved the tomatoes from the lower shelf to the top shelf. Therefore, he restored one thing but changed another. The effect is he didn't restore everything to how it was and still changes the future. It's just a different timeline (future and past) then the one he came back from.
    Think of the scene with the two spaghettis in an X shape. He created another line off of that crosspoint (aka Flashpoint). So when Barry heads to the future, he goes to a timeline with a different Batman, again.
    All of this either sets up a sequel where he has to fix that and put the tomatoes cans back down to where they were, and let his father get convicted and thrown in jail for a long time, or with no sequel, we just assume he fixes it and that's the end.
    BTW, I thought this ending was very sweet and fitting, but only if you understand that he still changed the future by moving the cans of tomatoes after taking out the extra can from the cart. He does this off-camera after noticing the store camera and gets the idea.

  • @BraxEvans
    @BraxEvans Před 11 měsíci +661

    I think Clooney being Batman drove home the point the Keaton tried to tell Barry. No matter what Barry does there is no returning to his original universe. He can try to get as close as possible to how it was but there are always some unforseen changes and consequences. Thats something Barry has to learn to live with and accept that he is responsible for those consequences. Just like in the original flashpoint storyline.

    • @leonardobraynen1524
      @leonardobraynen1524 Před 11 měsíci +64

      Actually Flash went back again after he removed the tomato sauce from grocery cart.
      Specifically, he wnted to his dad to 'look up'when he shopped in the past

    • @aussiewanderer6304
      @aussiewanderer6304 Před 11 měsíci +31

      ​@@leonardobraynen1524but he also lost a tooth. I wonder if that was a factor since it popped out the moment he realised who George was.

    • @just82much51
      @just82much51 Před 11 měsíci +34

      And now he will have to deal with "Bat-Nipples" for the foreseeable future! 😭

    • @davidoskutis6290
      @davidoskutis6290 Před 11 měsíci +46

      @@leonardobraynen1524 He didn't go back again, but he did "change" something again (he moved the tomato sauce after taking it from the cart, that was all the same trip). And I think it makes the ending fit the movie 100% - change one thing and you could change everything was the whole point, and even after Barry "learns" that, he still changes one thing. And now Gunn is free to shape his new DCU in a way that he can keep those he wants (even in different roles) or not.

    • @davidstone-haigh4880
      @davidstone-haigh4880 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@just82much51 Christ on a bike, lets hope not.

  • @cigargangster8081
    @cigargangster8081 Před 11 měsíci +41

    I saw the movie yesterday. I did not leave the theatre thinking it was fabulous. I agree with this video, the film’s ending felt off. The bonus footage made no sense…

  • @ericwarren979
    @ericwarren979 Před 8 měsíci +14

    I totally agree with what you've said. But if I was to choose, I would have hoped for the Supergirl - Michael Keaton ending

  • @juliusarchibaldiv3880
    @juliusarchibaldiv3880 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Honestly up until November of last year I was still supporting WB/DC in the movie department because Cavill was back until Gunn's announcement. After that with the exception of 2 upcoming projects (at the time) I just didn't care about WB/DC movies. I enjoyed Blue Beetle, because as a Guyver fan it is the closest we will get to having another Guyver movie. The only other project I am looking forward to is Swamp Thing cause I have been a fan since 1987/88.

  • @infinityofficial8079
    @infinityofficial8079 Před 11 měsíci +119

    DC never fails to disappoint 😐

    • @jimnite4919
      @jimnite4919 Před 8 měsíci

      That’s why you they fail.

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I like how they put all Supermen in this garbage but left out Cavill.

    • @Thalarian
      @Thalarian Před 8 měsíci +1

      It's WB. You'd think by now they would have learned their lesson to stop meddling in projects because they ultimately fail, but they never do.

    • @infinityofficial8079
      @infinityofficial8079 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Thalarian I hope it'll be better in the future

    • @infinityofficial8079
      @infinityofficial8079 Před 8 měsíci

      @@fynkozari9271 seriously

  • @canisgraffias199
    @canisgraffias199 Před 11 měsíci +70

    I wish Ben a fleck to continue to be Batman, he is the most accurate persona for the role. He reminds me of the cartoon Batman. I also wish with all my heart to have Cavil as Superman. I will accept no other Superman! 😢

    • @mrbeastfanpage887
      @mrbeastfanpage887 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Me too 😢

    • @easye5653
      @easye5653 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Yes, Cavill is the Best one since Christopher Reeve!

    • @TonyAlexander-on4sy
      @TonyAlexander-on4sy Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@easye5653 he's literally the only other movie superman and even then tom welling is a better Clark Kent an Tyler is better than Cavill in both roles

    • @TonyAlexander-on4sy
      @TonyAlexander-on4sy Před 11 měsíci

      Batfleck sucked ass

    • @raydiaz9218
      @raydiaz9218 Před 11 měsíci +1

      He just needs to loose the double chin and leave the family drama at home .

  • @bsherder
    @bsherder Před 8 měsíci +2

    7:58 Until i actually *see* the movie ending you talked about, i would have to go with the one shown in the movie. Talking about a ending and actually showing it are 2 different things. Very clever way of getting more views. You tricked me into and i watched the whole video waiting to see the ORIGINAL ENDING that you were going to REVEAL.

  • @rametzroth
    @rametzroth Před 8 měsíci +1

    I think it's much more likely that they changed the ending to remove Ezra Miller from the universe. You could easily argue flash is gone and everyone else is back in the normal dceu.

  • @stevelegion
    @stevelegion Před 9 měsíci +23

    The DCU cartoons make more chronological sense and have such better storytelling than a live action movie. It’s unbelievable.

    • @heartbreak25
      @heartbreak25 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Agreed.

    • @richa.s9912
      @richa.s9912 Před měsícem +2

      They (Animation) DCU are making more Alternate Universe again and I'm waiting for another one or 5 series Flashbacks Flashpoints.

  • @wllngtnjhnsn
    @wllngtnjhnsn Před 11 měsíci +188

    A combination of the ending involving Cavill and Calle, along with the Affleck ending would’ve been ideal. This would’ve served as a beautiful bookend to the DCEU without confusing and insulting audiences

    • @chakinabox
      @chakinabox Před 11 měsíci +7

      Right, at least keep some elements from the first ending, and frame parts of the second in a way that it becomes a proper sendoff. Don't give us an easter egg you intended to be a joke, because it was a poor choice. That said, if he was in better health, MAYBE I wouldn't mind so much if Val Kilmer made that cameo instead.

    • @AaronAbernethy
      @AaronAbernethy Před 11 měsíci +2

      I didn’t feel confused or insulted, but some people here are certainly going out of their way to be.

  • @desertratboy6373
    @desertratboy6373 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What I've noticed is that DCU vs Marvel universe is that Marvel seems to keep the traditional vs DC experimenting with too much straying from original stories. Just is how I perceive things

  • @jordanlund7567
    @jordanlund7567 Před 8 měsíci

    Ending was fine. It served as a capstone on the Burton era Batman films. Only person missing was Val Kilmer for obvious reasons.

  • @denniswalker9219
    @denniswalker9219 Před 10 měsíci +59

    I quite agree on your assessment of the movie ! not happy with the ending, getting rid of Ben Affleck's batman and Henry Cavill's superman was a big mistake for the DCU. They interfere too much . chopping and changing. In my opinion these actors were well suited for their characters

  • @patrickontiveros
    @patrickontiveros Před 9 měsíci +114

    These original ideas would have really improved the movie. I like Ben and Henry in their respective roles. I would have loved to see Keaton continue in some way and even Supergirl

    • @Kali4niaLyfe
      @Kali4niaLyfe Před 8 měsíci +2

      even if they had Bale as Batman it would've been a better movie.

    • @rockyou9967
      @rockyou9967 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Now that woulda have been a good surprise if bale came out the car instead of clooney. That could get people excited for the next movie. But with Clooney not so much

    • @Thespeedrap
      @Thespeedrap Před 8 měsíci +1

      Why didn't Michael Keaton Batman returned in the ending.

    • @paulmoyer2608
      @paulmoyer2608 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@Kali4niaLyfe I disagree Bale is way to much of a dick. Henry would never work with him that's one of the reasons why he was dropped. "Doesn't play well with others"

    • @lobito1426
      @lobito1426 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Batman beyond hopeful movie should be for Michael Keaton.

  • @mayhemmagnet
    @mayhemmagnet Před 8 měsíci +1

    The thing is they gave us fans reasons to believe that they listened, loved and understood the fan base for the DCU, like when they added the Nicholas Cage Superman. And then they go nuts and changed this, deleted that, and the George Clooney thing. I really hope they get their act together. MCU!!! That means you too!!

  • @MessereHawke
    @MessereHawke Před 8 měsíci +2

    I also love how no one is talking about the mystery of who killed Nora Allen, along with other questionable choices for what could have been a great movie....

    • @finallife87
      @finallife87 Před 8 měsíci +1

      reverse flash killed nora aka eobald

    • @MessereHawke
      @MessereHawke Před 8 měsíci

      @@finallife87 I'm very aware. I speak in general (mostly for those that didn't grow up on the original DC stories/comics).

  • @wsimon-st8ub
    @wsimon-st8ub Před 11 měsíci +83

    I was disappointed with the ending as well. It was more about presenting cameos than it was about bringing the storyline full circle to a logical conclusion. I believe the motivation was to facilitate an open ended universe to enable recasting in a number of roles.

    • @harshsen3765
      @harshsen3765 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Hey it was the best ending becoz flash is still in the wrong timeline and you will get to see in the sequel kytone aflleck and other Batmen and might be possible Cavill as well.

    • @junkmail3390
      @junkmail3390 Před 9 měsíci

      SPOILERS:
      I liked the cameo cavalcade anyway, but especially because the last third of the movie over all was disappointing (everybody helping Flash dies
      and then EVERYBODY IN A UNIVERSE DIES, SEVERAL UNIVERSES? ! I knew Flashpoint was dark but c'mon) and SOME respect to those who came before (actors, creators, eras etc) was due (tho I eyerolled at having the Nicolas Cage cameo).
      I spent the last 10 minutes or so imagining a big DCWarner movie set in the 1950s black and white Steve Reeves dimension!

  • @mimsie6000
    @mimsie6000 Před 10 měsíci +268

    I really liked Henry Cavill, Gal Gadot, and Ben Affleck. I’ve heard mixed feelings about Zack Snyders extended four hour version of the justice league movie, but I really liked it. After that I was really gearing up to see some thing with the flash. Well, I did enjoy the flash movie. It’s sad to think that everyone is going to be recasted. At the end of the justice league movie, I was looking forward to seeing Martian, Manhunter, and another DC film! By the same actor! Sorry, I’m all over the place. Lol.

    • @gameguy1337
      @gameguy1337 Před 9 měsíci +30

      Agreed. I really love the Snyder Cut and it had me excited for potential of a live action Darkseid plot that will now never happen.

    • @naomiromano413
      @naomiromano413 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I loved it as well. Have watched it about 6 times.

    • @Thalarian
      @Thalarian Před 8 měsíci +3

      I loved Snyder's Cut. Because it finally felt like DC live-adaptations were getting where they needed to be which was COSMIC. They can't keep rebooting the same characters. We finally had a core group of actors that did good-to-great in their roles (As much as I personally dislike Ezra Miller), a director that has the chops for epics, and at least somewhat of a plan to really make things soar. Were there missteps? Sure. But nothing they couldn't fix with a bit of story-splaining.

    • @dacrew7558
      @dacrew7558 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Was the best dc movie to date

    • @chadthecreative
      @chadthecreative Před 8 měsíci +1

      I loved Zack Snyders Justice League. It was the perfect setup for what he was planning to do with the Dc Universe. Very dark and thrilling

  • @JasonMcNamara
    @JasonMcNamara Před 2 měsíci

    Just finished watching a the Flash on Netflix 9 months after it’s release and came to YT for some more info on it. As to your point and question, having George Clooney rock up at the end was AWESOME!!! Because of not seeing him earlier and with Clooney being such a big deal, I honestly wasn’t expecting it. Loved the movie because it was genuinely funny. Sure the CGI got dodgy at times, but overall the movie delivered way better than I anticipated. It’s possibly the best modern live action DCEU movie.

  • @soulofcinder5151
    @soulofcinder5151 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I don't know, the first hour and 15 minutes of The Flash look great. But after it, movie feeling like very cutted. This movie 100% has a great alternate version like Kingdom of Heaven or Batman Forever. It's very noticeable, he's too fast. There are so many amazing deleted scenes to show. Original ending, epic post-credits scene with Affleck, moments with Keaton's Bruce, flashback after RETURNS, moment with Supergirl's ship, more brutal battles with Supergirl. This movie has an alternate version with 30-45 minutes of NEW scenes that show the characters better. Andy even said about 4 hour version. I guarantee it. WE MUST TO SEE ULTIMATE CUT

  • @petehayes4114
    @petehayes4114 Před 8 měsíci +69

    You hit the nail in the head. Warner Bros micro manages and it shows. Don’t get me wrong they should have a plan for the DCEU as a whole. But develop the plan, implement it and hire people that will carry it out. DC has great stories they just need to be told in a coherent manner.

    • @chamoo232
      @chamoo232 Před 8 měsíci +3

      It's as if the plan changed every new movie they made. They setup Darkseid in 2 different movies then do a bunch of movies that ignore it. They say they are making Man of Steel 2 then they aren't, then they are again and then aren't. It's really hard to get excited and get involved in a story that feels like it could lead nowhere and be dead any second.

    • @poohbear1647
      @poohbear1647 Před 7 měsíci

      ALSO let’s face it, Cavell and Affleck are BIG$$. They are just getting cheap and don’t want to pay for A list stars (ok/ Cavell is B list.. still good).

    • @alvinjohnson2402
      @alvinjohnson2402 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Not micro manage. Everyone wants a piece of the profits (even the ones who voted not to greenlight the process)If you know the inside of the industry, you would know that the board of directors and powerful investors call the shots. Exp. If a new writer or assitant producer got brought in the middle of the "production" process (filming, etc) percentage "points" have to be given to the new writer and producer AND the Investors who pushed for this to happen! It's a lot of "narcissistic egos" that want a piece of the financial pie" If a new producer or writer change even just a scene or dialogue they ALL get percentage points of the film (That's why so many movies look convoluted or doesn't make sense.) The 3rd act doesn't mesh with the 1st act (you've seen this in many movies. they start off great then by the middle you're like "wtf") Another example is the movie is screened by the BODs, one of them decide a love scene should be put in of their vision (raunchy) well the director has to accomodate! Investors feel the movie isn't funny enough (here comes the silly reshoots that totally throws off the continuity of the movie. (Thor 4, Aquaman 2, Marvels, etc) And the "Flash" was a algamated disaster with unfinished SFXs and too many visions of what the movie was suppose to be (I think it had 3 directors and James Gunn adding his vision to the final product)

  • @dmoreno323
    @dmoreno323 Před 11 měsíci +58

    You are absolutely right. Once again, the meddling of the studio prevented the true vision of the director. The hiring of Gun was a huge mistake, RIP DC. It will never catch any momentum because WB executives can't keep their nose out of the project..

    • @TonyAlexander-on4sy
      @TonyAlexander-on4sy Před 11 měsíci +2

      Stop hating Gunn is going to do much better than Snyder from the looks of it as he's shown he actually understands these characters

    • @lukedalton
      @lukedalton Před 11 měsíci +1

      Sorry but the DCEU created by Snyder was a zombie, his 'bold new vision' was panned by almost everyone except a limited group of fan, surely not enough to justify a continuation as the much vaunted Snyder's version of the Justice League clearly demonstrated, add Ezra Miller crime spree, Black Adam (with all the fight between Johnson and the WB executives )and Shazam being a flop and nobody in his right mind will have continued that money sink

    • @dmoreno323
      @dmoreno323 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@TonyAlexander-on4sy it sure looks like Gunn and his chronie did a great job implanting George Clooney into the end of the flash movie, not to mention the crappy after credits scene.. Both idiotic decisions... yea. He's doing great things...

    • @dmoreno323
      @dmoreno323 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@lukedalton the reality is if the director is allowed to do his work without executives meddling, perhaps DCEU would have been a money maker. But it wasn't because executives wanted to put in their 2 cents on the length of the film to the darkness of the film... You think if executives would have meddled in the making of the titanic, do you really think it would have been a hit? I think not

    • @lukedalton
      @lukedalton Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@dmoreno323 except the brief period in the 70's, the producers have always and always meddled in the making of the movie as they are the one that give the money necessary to do it and want it back. Expecially in this days as the budget of the movie have reached absurd level

  • @charlesthepariah7600
    @charlesthepariah7600 Před 8 měsíci

    Would be even better if they could stretch the flashpoint paradox story out further. Even go so far as to make it a trilogy. Barry thinking he fixed things only to find out he has messed it up again having to work in an entirely new universe where Clooney is batman, cage is superman, etc. Ending that one with an encounter with batman, only for it to be Kilmer introducing us to the third one, where Cavill is superman, or etc etc ....

  • @ryderkick3899
    @ryderkick3899 Před 6 měsíci +1

    DC keep getting new Directors and Producers that try to fix things that are not broken. They should have kept Henry and Ben. Now I just wait until they come on Max before I watch anything DC. When they bring Henry back, then I will start watching them at the theater again.

  • @andrewarcher2493
    @andrewarcher2493 Před 11 měsíci +43

    Everything was slowly falling in place affleck was back, cavill was back and Zack was even gearing up to come back but Gunn came along and was like naaah

    • @ShirouBrando
      @ShirouBrando Před 11 měsíci +2

      Wb was not letting Zack back there has been Zero talk about that I love the snyder verse as much as the next guy But just beacuse the actors were gona reprise there roles dosent mean they would have been written ir shot like how Zack would have

    • @talariswatts-el9196
      @talariswatts-el9196 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Exactly.

    • @badhonovi8554
      @badhonovi8554 Před 11 měsíci

      Yeh😢

    • @frederikprenga6981
      @frederikprenga6981 Před 11 měsíci

      Totally agree.
      James Gun aint got a fking clue.
      Guy dont even know how to dye his own hair an Dc warner brothers gonna trust this clown to direct a movie.
      Dc committed suicide by hiring this clown

    • @lillrice27
      @lillrice27 Před 11 měsíci +1

      No for Dceu was back on the come up then it gets shitted on and now reboot time

  • @VinoDipinte
    @VinoDipinte Před 8 měsíci +32

    This is just another example of large studios making decisions for their own sake rather than for the fandom. You would have thought they learned from the success of bringing back the Snyder cut because of the screaming we all had to do for them to hear us. Then they just ignored us all again. Look at how Sony has handled the spider verse. Masterful.

    • @skillcoiler
      @skillcoiler Před 7 měsíci +1

      The Snyder cut was just hot dumpster water..... I mean the theatrical release wasn't amazing but it cut out a lot of meaningless dribble that made the movie longer.....not better. So to call the Snyder cut cave in a success is dubious. I mean did we really need that WW theme every time she farted? The joyless Superman? The Darkseid scene that will never lead to anything? The extra shit after they brought Superman back from the dead until they stole the mother box? The extra scenes between the fights of Barry eating and 872 more MY MANs to name just a few? No. Oh now I have an AMAZING new idea....... let's make it in black and white now.....

    • @zeeski7454
      @zeeski7454 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@skillcoiler how about just go fuq off, and enjoy your flour flavored marvel

    • @trevorberridge6079
      @trevorberridge6079 Před 3 měsíci

      Spot on. Egos get in the way and people just have to stamp all over someone else's work. It has ruined many movies and franchises before now. And oh my god YES, the Snyder Cut of Justice League was amazing. I sat there open mouthed because I knew I was watching the same movie but it was almost like I'd never seen it before. Twice as long and barely a wasted frame. Incredible. So glad we got the original vision restored. Such a shame it never saw light of day as the proper full screen release it should have been. Studios! Aaarrgghh!

  • @stevehenkel354
    @stevehenkel354 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Clooney as Batman would mean that Barry still didn't get it right which could work if you were going to reset the DC characters AND if Clooney was going to come back as Batman. Otherwise it was a bad ending that felt like things were left undone.

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This information is good to know about.

  • @samguffey2307
    @samguffey2307 Před 10 měsíci +150

    I'm 57 and have watched every live iteration of Superman since the George Reeves version and Cavill is, BY FAR, the best. They will not do better and not keeping him in the role is a mistake of epic proportions. A high quality actor who actually looks the part and doesn't need padded costumes and CGI and you want to get rid of him? Unbelievable. This is the kind of decision making that will ensure DC never catches Marvel when it comes to live action cinema. They don't have the leadership chops to pull it off.

    • @gilmor5059
      @gilmor5059 Před 8 měsíci +8

      I am 56. Cavill is my favorite but Cristopher Reeve's is the more Iconic. From Cristopher's Superman comes all the rest of the Superhero movies up to now.

    • @TheRealCoryKent
      @TheRealCoryKent Před 8 měsíci +5

      If Cavill's the best we haven't seen it yet. Christopher Reeve did far more in the role than Snyder asked Henry Cavill to do. It was rather flat in terms of the things that were asked of Superman in the Cavill performances.

    • @davidsparrow9660
      @davidsparrow9660 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Agreed Cavil was the best or at least the best since Reeves. I loved Cavils preformance, his acting, the physical strength contributing to how he carries himself. It all felt so real. I also loved Afleck, I felt he was an amazing batman, pulling off both the dark night and the brooding billionaire playboy and having the bulk muscle to make his combat seem feasible. It's hard to pull off both dark night and playboy roles and he's the first to do it. Whoever is responsible for bringing an end to the new DC universe, should have a fitting punishment, they should be forced to watch their shitty movies for the rest of their lives.

    • @thomaskalbfus2005
      @thomaskalbfus2005 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I think they should at least finish the story arc they started with Cavil before rebooting the Universe, at least Marvel had the decency to do that before going full woke! My problem is we never get to see Darkseid, and his invasion of Earth that they set up in Batman v. Superman, the Flash was the one that went back in time to warn them, remember, so. Future Flash interfered in the timeline to create Justice League.
      the mechanics of time travel are not consistent in these movies, that is the problem! they just used it as an excuse to get old actors to reprise Batman and then kill him off, and then get this new Supergirl and then kill her off, this movie is unsatisfying, it doesn't make me want to go back and watch another DC movie, as they will make one or two movies and then leave the plot threads hanging without finishing them!

    • @jchinckley
      @jchinckley Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@TheRealCoryKent We haven't seen it yet because DC didn't let Snyder finish his Superman arc. And now, of course, we never will because Hollyweird is upset with Henry for some unknown reason and seems to want to blackball him because he cares about these stories and wants to stay true to the source material and to what the fans want. I disagree that Christopher Reeve "did far more," he just had 3 more movies than Henry did to display his talent. I love Reeves' portrayal in general, but what Snyder was doing was going to add actual depth to the character on the silver screen.
      I feel like James Gunn is going to ruin things for us in a way no one else has before. I really hope I'm wrong.

  • @babaofett2165
    @babaofett2165 Před 11 měsíci +50

    I was also a bit disappointed in the ending. If George Clooney is Batman, what other differences are there. It implies that Barry’s universe is still not back to normal. The ending reminded me of the Simpson’s Treehouse of Horror episode (Time and Punishment) where Homer goes back in time and keeps doing small things in the past that alter the future. He keeps travelling to the past to try to put everything back to normal but every time he does, he comes back to a different universe. Finally, he comes back and everything seems to be normal. Except Marge and the kids now all have long, snake-like tongues. Homer then says ‘Eh, close enough.’ Overall, I enjoyed the movie. It was good to see Michael Keaton as Batman again (doing some real butt kicking at the prison) and I thought Sasha Calle did a great job as Supergirl. (a change from the blonde, blue eyed Supergirl that has been the standard for over 60 years.)

    • @Zhannahky
      @Zhannahky Před 11 měsíci +5

      I agree Sasha Calle did a great job, I hope they find a way to bring her into the main or new Universe.. I hope Gunn does justice ( no pun inteneded ) to his new reboot, but with the Clooney scene I won't be holding my breath.. to me it means it is going to be a campier DCU.. and to me i find DC is a lot darker than Marvel.. so if goes campier I do not think it will go well with DC fans.. hope ya all understand this, I am not great with words.. so what i am trying to say might of fell a little short of the mark I was trying to say

    • @ShirouBrando
      @ShirouBrando Před 11 měsíci

      ​@Cara Mordsith Marvel can be plenty dark its really just been the movies that have made dc seem much darker than marvel where as in the comics both dc and marvel are both Very cammpy and Dark

    • @jacobyrassilon
      @jacobyrassilon Před 11 měsíci +2

      What everyone seems to forget is that George Clooney IS Micheal Keaton's Batman....they just recast the part. Same Universe, just different actors, so putting Clooney in as Batman did nothing but make it more confusing and convoluted just for the sake of a "gotcha" cameo. It was dumb and uninspired.

    • @underwritinginfo
      @underwritinginfo Před 11 měsíci +1

      Including Clooney was just a nice way of Bringing in another Batman actor. We all knew that the DCEU is ending, who cares what happened, it's over. I liked seeing Clooney, I just wished Flash had thought to go back and save Kara earlier removing Zod's ability to build New Krypton thus saving that earth and his mother.

    • @theallseeing1141
      @theallseeing1141 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Zhannahky I hear you loud and clear.

  • @Alyssiusyouk
    @Alyssiusyouk Před 8 měsíci +23

    I LOVED this version of Supergirl by Sasha Calle, I would watch a supergirl movie with her hands down

  • @BroVCam
    @BroVCam Před 6 měsíci

    I'm late here, just seeing! I'm a huge DC and Marvel fan and I honestly watched The Flash movie ending and was like; yeah Clooney's Bats, well Barry just came back in a different universe and a Flash 2 would make it make since! But like everything DCEU, they don't connect the chain anything like the MCU. But no idea these alternate endings were going on! Damn DC, I hope Gunn and Safran's vision can give us fans a good chain for the franchise! Thanks for the detailed review!

  • @brandoneye8516
    @brandoneye8516 Před 11 měsíci +140

    I think Deluca and Abdy’s ending would have been best because it’s somewhat closure on the universe. Where as this Clooney ending is confusing because now Clooney is Batman but in awuaman 2 Ben affleck might still make an appearance as Bruce Wayne, but then the next DCU project “Superman Legacy” will have a completely new cast it’s going to confuse the general audience.

    • @Dandoright82
      @Dandoright82 Před 11 měsíci +13

      Apparently the Affleck Batman appearance in Aquaman 2 is still in the final version 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @brandoneye8516
      @brandoneye8516 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@Dandoright82 then if that’s the case it would probably take place before the flash

    • @funkydonut3838
      @funkydonut3838 Před 11 měsíci +17

      Not sure why Gunn didn’t just let the 2023 slate be and start his universe with no reference to the old one. He already f’d it up by announcing the reboot early and now they’re in a deeper hole.

    • @kadegetslaid634
      @kadegetslaid634 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@joekarman2611 most sane Snyder fan

    • @studioshitaketakashita7093
      @studioshitaketakashita7093 Před 11 měsíci +2

      not for me. I barely sat thru Man of S aka P. of S. and didn't watch B v S and didn't watch JL black and white snyder version nor any other version... sounds like it'll be ripe to come back into the fold and give this franchise my deserved attention once again! Sayonara, Hack Snyder! don't let the door hit ya on the way out!!!

  • @retro_vibe
    @retro_vibe Před 11 měsíci +15

    Unfortunately that's exactly what destroyed the Terminator franchise. Too many directors directing different sequels, they left the audience so confused and in the end even James Cameron couldn't save it. Dark fate is the worst in the franchise.

    • @dermilchmann3655
      @dermilchmann3655 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Yes!

    • @puichiung2959
      @puichiung2959 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Agreed. Imo even Terminator Genisys was better (but not by much) than Terminator Dark Fate.

    • @dermilchmann3655
      @dermilchmann3655 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@puichiung2959 I share your opinion

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@puichiung2959 It's an underrated movie. I don't know why people don't like Genisys.

    • @retro_vibe
      @retro_vibe Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@puichiung2959 Genisys had a good plot my only issue with this franchise is the constant recasting of John Corner in every movie, Arnold was fine but to make it believable, they could have kept the same actors for sequels. And that's what going to kill DC as well if they won't listen to the fans.

  • @matthewkeating-od6rl
    @matthewkeating-od6rl Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great vid

  • @natanrod7272
    @natanrod7272 Před 8 měsíci

    He moved the tomatoes, so his dad looked up that changed time anybody who’s a fan of the flash or Batman would know if you mess with time time messes back that’s why the universe wasn’t the same just like when he saved his mom he brought Zod back, moving the tomatoes. He helped his dad, but he changed something.

  • @nathanelder5285
    @nathanelder5285 Před 10 měsíci +55

    Cavil, Affleck, and Gadot will be greatly missed :(

    • @dustin.4400
      @dustin.4400 Před 8 měsíci

      Gadot sucked

    • @rockyou9967
      @rockyou9967 Před 8 měsíci +1

      i think Gal still has a 3rd wonderwoman movie coming up

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Před 11 měsíci +54

    God damn It I really wanted to see cavill Superman one more time in that original ending because that could’ve been really awesome and a great send off for these characters.

    • @dermilchmann3655
      @dermilchmann3655 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yes!

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@dermilchmann3655 indeed

    • @LChatmanFL
      @LChatmanFL Před 11 měsíci +7

      We also never got a Man of Steel 2 movie. What a waste of an excellent film and perfect casting. If only Zack Snyder could have stayed in control.

    • @vexedwaffle
      @vexedwaffle Před 11 měsíci +3

      I was hoping to at least see him in the showcase of supermen they showed from the various universes. But no we got Nicolas Cage. IT was a fun nod, but keeping Henry out of the universe superman showcase felt like another slap to his legacy.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@LChatmanFL indeed it's waste sadly

  • @mpdmpd8118
    @mpdmpd8118 Před 8 měsíci

    clooney cameo is really awesome XD

  • @ausarelbey686
    @ausarelbey686 Před 4 měsíci

    you are spot on

  • @thearzone820
    @thearzone820 Před 11 měsíci +64

    I think that the ending must have been a mixture of the first and second ending. Batfleck is still Batman but we see Cavil's Superman and then Barry is shocked to see Sasha Calle's Supergirl. Bruce asks, who is this? Superman say one word "Well...". (Story)Kara's pod was stuck in the Phantom Zone for 40 yrs but time is diff. there. Her pod got knocked by a wave after 40 yrs and sets it course to its destination reaching Earth. Clark sees the pod marching towards Earth like a meteor being broadcasted in a news channel. He reaches the destination but sees that the pod has already landed. He resembles it from his pod from which he came to Earth. He removes the hood and sees a girl. The girl sees the symbol of hope on his chest and recognizes, it's her cousin Kal-El. Superman asks: Who are you? The girl replies: I'm your cousin Kara-Zor-El. We are family. 😇

    • @zpaztrik1418
      @zpaztrik1418 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Vin diesel would like a word

    • @mohsinkhalid2443
      @mohsinkhalid2443 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Family

    • @studioshitaketakashita7093
      @studioshitaketakashita7093 Před 11 měsíci

      shoulda had Baffleck half fused in some metal of his Baffleckomobile, a la Philadelphia project, lol - kinda making it like overtly obvious hit us over the head with a 2x4 kinda obvious that he was permanently gone and done for !!! Good riddance, Hack Snyderverse!!! what an abomination that was!!! Even Nipple Clooney is now more officially *canon* LOL I love it - sign me up for the steelbook bluray of this!!!

    • @NeilEvans-xq8ik
      @NeilEvans-xq8ik Před 11 měsíci

      I agree! An abomination! Nowhere near enough nipples.

    • @zpaztrik1418
      @zpaztrik1418 Před 11 měsíci

      @Studio Shitake Takashita you need to take a shita buddy!!

  • @andrewzapata9819
    @andrewzapata9819 Před 11 měsíci +14

    Delunca and Abdys ending was so much better for what they were doing. And of course Gunn had to ruin it. I don’t think he should’ve intervened and touched it in the first place

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 Před 6 měsíci +9

    I think if the SNYDERVERSE gets renewed, than it could be possible to create realms, where each of the heroes could appear in movies.
    From HENRY CAVILL’s SuperMan, to BEN AFFLECK’s BatMan, and to GAL GADOT’s WonderWoman.
    In addition to MICHAEL KEATON’s BatMan, to LESLIE GRACE’s BatGirl, and to SASHA CALLE’s SuperGirl.
    And maybe even the GEORGE CLOONEY’s (Bruce Wayne) aka Batman could appear in a few movies.

    • @graemeromias645
      @graemeromias645 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Definitely not Ezra Millers Flash tho.

    • @DUNKIN_DEAN
      @DUNKIN_DEAN Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@graemeromias645Agreed. I don’t recall Barry Allen being that nerdy and neurotic, the Miller plays him.

  • @jkjosaas
    @jkjosaas Před 11 měsíci +46

    You make many good points.
    My "two cents":
    1. Ben Affleck's Batman is pretty badass - but M. Keaton and his batmobile are the OP in my book and the only reason I was psyched for this movie (I don't compare the movies to the 60's show).
    2. Cavill is the best Superman since Christopher Reeve - BY FAR!
    3. Gal Gadot's Wonderwoman is awesome (although the last movie should have had a better script). Her character should definately get more movies made!
    In addition:
    1. Hollywood needs to stop erasing characters the second the movie doesn't do as well as expected, if TV shows got cancelled after 1 episode with bad ratings, no one would bother watching shows anymore - why invest in a character's story when he/she might get erased after 1 sub-optimal movie.
    2. When a project gets a new leader/boss/chief/project manager even once during its lifetime - things have the potential to go either way... if it happens more than once, it's all the more likely to mess things up. Even if every new leadership has good ideas, the constant changes will demoralize employees, reduce productivity and lead to an incoherent result. It's so OBVIOUS and it's painful to see it happen over, and over in movieprojects.
    Finally - THIS was an awesome movie. The cast did a fantastic job (all of them) but everyone involved (cast, crew, investors etc) deserved a better ending... and so did the fans!
    # SAVE CAVELL's superman, SAVE Gadot's Wonderwoman, Keep Keaton's Batman, and focus on being better at LEADERSHIP, any good project starts with a good leader, and finishes with a good team!

    • @just82much51
      @just82much51 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Speaking of Keaton’s Batmobile, I was VERY disappointed that he didn’t use it in The Flash. Missed opportunity for us old time fans from the 80’s.

    • @ZenGlenn
      @ZenGlenn Před 10 měsíci +1

      🌠4. Calle is magnificent & deserves many more appearances/ sequels🎬

    • @TaylorBrookspro
      @TaylorBrookspro Před 10 měsíci +2

      I agree

    • @ZenGlenn
      @ZenGlenn Před 10 měsíci +1

      ...Furthermore, w/ 30+ yrs in film&TV production, the additional major solution (particularly with current talent strikes for what is fair & appropriate) is quite essentially cutting studio execs mega-million salaries in half. They'd still get all materialistic desires w/profit points, etc., & millions could instead get properly channeled where they belong, sharing the wealth for everyone else, likely with better results in higher quality projects🎬👌

    • @silkscrim
      @silkscrim Před 9 měsíci +1

      Good post. Only thing I have to say is good leadership with a stupid plan is still a stupid plan.

  • @ThyXsphyre
    @ThyXsphyre Před 11 měsíci +24

    Our Movie News never misses

  • @Hecklrkosh
    @Hecklrkosh Před 5 měsíci +1

    I must have missed it. Can u show it again?

  • @NeverDauntedRadioNetwork
    @NeverDauntedRadioNetwork Před 8 měsíci

    Gunn and Safran knew what they did and rewarded Muschietti with The Brave and the Bold. That's a fair trade. People are going to lose their minds over how awesome David Corenswet is about to be.

  • @mastere6115
    @mastere6115 Před 11 měsíci +69

    That's the thing, when it comes to flashpount paradoxes, there is always a side effect to the changes, no matter how well you fix it, or how good you think it was done, there will always be a certain thing that changes, always. As a speedster, unless you are absurdly experienced and know exactly how to alter the timeline to suit your needs, any flashpoints when reverted will always have something wrong with it, you need to be extremely good at doing it to be able to come out with no changes, and even then being able to do that is very rare.

    • @woodcutta6461
      @woodcutta6461 Před 11 měsíci +4

      ...then wouldn't say Lex Luther as President have been a better way to show this? You get to show the fans some appreciation by showing Cavill and Affleck (ie. not piss them off) and still drive the point home. Seems to be lazy writing and a big middle finger to the fans of this DCU.

    • @1karanhasija
      @1karanhasija Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yes but let's leave logic for the animated and the comics, ass the cinematic universe is already shit , introducing more shit Ness could have been avoided

    • @youngcharley8955
      @youngcharley8955 Před 9 měsíci

      you reminded me of that but the cw shows explains it so well in season 3

    • @michelleplombe7019
      @michelleplombe7019 Před 8 měsíci

      Lex Luthor IS President!

  • @acameron8784
    @acameron8784 Před 11 měsíci +21

    Cavill, Affleck and Gadot were perfect for their roles. I agree with @BigSlimyBlob. It would have been great if they brought in Supergirl into a slightly modified DC Universe at the end. Think, how would she (Kara) and Kal El manage their relationship now that he is the older cousin and has to watch out for her? There could be some fun in that, but still w/ that grounded serious tone that we've come to enjoy from the Snyder verse. Also, I would have loved to see Affleck's Batman film. The JL movie (Zack Snyder's version) set it up perfectly if they would have followed after that. Well, lets see what happens in the future. However, I'm not to excited at the moment with the new regime. We'll see what happens next. Plus you had a big bad who (in my humble opinion) was more intimidating than Thanos... Darkside... It would have been nice to see a Darkside war movie. But I'm rambling.. Sorry guys....

  • @zardon75
    @zardon75 Před 8 měsíci

    i know the storyline of the flash traveling the multiverse the comic book did end its original book with the flash going back to "his" dimention only to realize he was in one that he had never been to before, so thats the reason i can see the new bruce wayne instead of the ones we wanted.

  • @angelburn2378
    @angelburn2378 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Simple Fix:1)Flash is indeed still in the wrong universe and will need Clooney’s Bruce Wayne to get out. 2)Affleck’s Bruce Wayne is also trapped in a separate universe the nightmare timeline and is reaching out for help as well. 3)Young Barry Allen having been inspired by Keaton’s Batman’s sacrifice will join forces with Supergirl and possibly a Green Lantern to save that universe from future threats. Finally the main universe Cavill’s Superman,Gadot’s Wonder Woman,Momoa’s Aquaman and Fisher’s Cyborg attempt to try and locate missing members Miller’s older Flash as well as Affleck’s Batman all the while General Swanwick’s Martian Manhunter warns them of an impending White Martian invasion

  • @EmperorsWrath
    @EmperorsWrath Před 11 měsíci +32

    I don’t want to sound like I hate James Gunn or his plans for DC and I hope that what he has in store is successful and entertaining, but dang! I seriously doubt that I’m the only person who is at least a little angry about how the film’s ending was vs what it could have been.

  • @Trumpet.Of.Yah.
    @Trumpet.Of.Yah. Před 8 měsíci +130

    Perhaps it can still be saved by having Berry in the wrong universe. Barry could make his way back to his original universe and that could usher Aflek, cavil and wonder woman back in their roles.

    • @Sergeantgrunt
      @Sergeantgrunt Před 8 měsíci +15

      That would be the best option with one last thing. Gunn and Safran fired and Zack Snyder installed as the head of DC!

    • @thoraxia
      @thoraxia Před 8 měsíci +6

      ​@@Sergeantgrunt ya I like that as long as Zack Snyder can learn that there are other colors that aren't black. I like Snyders vision from what I can see of it but he's a bit addicted to dark. That makes sense with batman but superman, wonder woman, etc can't all be dark as hell or you have no contrast. It's like watching a drama that has no breaks for levity, eventually the tension burns out your nerves and stops being effective. I like walking out of a theater feeling better than when I went in. I have enough darkness and drama in RL. I doubt I'm alone in that aspect. I go to see a movie to be transported, otherwise I'd just as soon watch it at home when I get around to it.

    • @JOSEMunoz-tc5rq
      @JOSEMunoz-tc5rq Před 8 měsíci

      I got a better chance of winning the lotto then that happening no disrespect just letting you know that the odds are Slim

    • @ParezIsraelFromCME
      @ParezIsraelFromCME Před 8 měsíci

      Don’t think cavil can return as Superman if I heard right

    • @rockyou9967
      @rockyou9967 Před 8 měsíci +2

      they already have a new guy to replace henry as superman so i dont think henry will be superman again. I hope im wrong though

  • @opticyclic
    @opticyclic Před 8 měsíci +1

    The post credits scene shows he gets back to the original one and doesn't stay with Clooney

  • @TrueAlmightyOutcast
    @TrueAlmightyOutcast Před 7 měsíci

    He created this video because the original ending wasn’t shown, so that is the reason as to why he created this video. To explain why the ending seemed off as it wasn’t the original ending they intend to show in the original cut of the film that was changed from the original - the first 3 minutes of this video

  • @JRLopez13
    @JRLopez13 Před 11 měsíci +14

    I didn't mind the ending, it was clear; Barry traveled to the Batman and Robin universe and he will probably stay there so they can recast Ezra.
    The Momoa post credit scene also was bad but it established that he will be Aquaman for the next DCU universe.
    The movie didn't closed the possibility of the ZS justice league to reunite one day, of course if in the future they tackle the CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS story.

    • @mattstansbeary3068
      @mattstansbeary3068 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Are you sure. I really don't think that he will. All it said was my movie Next after this not I will be Aquaman in DCU.

    • @JRLopez13
      @JRLopez13 Před 11 měsíci

      @@mattstansbeary3068 Didn't know that. In the movie Barry said that "in all of the universes all batman where different people but you where the same in all of them"... or something like that

    • @JRLopez13
      @JRLopez13 Před 11 měsíci +1

      At this point, I really don't care much about the DCU, if James Gunn gives us a great Superman movie then probably ill come back

  • @bluethunder7778
    @bluethunder7778 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Abdy and Deluca was on the right path with keeping Cavill and Affleck and building on the current characters and finishing out the full arc. So now you have ruined all 4 movies this year since there is no pay off from any of these movies and characters. #DCUisDOA

  • @mostlysuperheroes
    @mostlysuperheroes Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thank you! Holy crap this would’ve been a different flik.

  • @nadhazainab3067
    @nadhazainab3067 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I think flash went to wrong universe & still in that universe.
    And the oldest flash could be the killer of present flash's mom who traveled back in time but accidently went to wrong universe to protect his mom.

  • @SnyderQueen
    @SnyderQueen Před 11 měsíci +35

    Great video, they should have kept De Luca and Abdy's ending, the one with Cavill, Calle, Affleck, Gadot etc etc. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

    • @danyschcaptain2660
      @danyschcaptain2660 Před 11 měsíci +12

      I agree #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

    • @smartchai
      @smartchai Před 11 měsíci +7

      I TOTALLY AGREE 👍👍👍👍 !!!!
      WB and James "I Am The Studio" Gunn are complete lunatics for all of the nonsensical changes they made to Andy's film ! "THE FLASH ⚡️" could have been a LOT better than we got to see in its current theatrical version !
      #FireJamesGunn
      #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

    • @abhirup1033
      @abhirup1033 Před 11 měsíci

      No....#EraseTheSnyderVerse

    • @abhirup1033
      @abhirup1033 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@smartchai We support James Gunn😤

  • @Rhythwyn
    @Rhythwyn Před 11 měsíci +114

    The Clooney ending made sense because Barry still mucked with the timeline by moving the tomatoes so that his father's face would be revealed to the camera, thus exonerating him. That would not have happened in Barry's original timeline. So, I was ok with that based on how Keaton explained the changes. That being said, I too love the Cavill/Affleck/Gadot dynamic and am really sad not to get more of them. They really need to stop messing with the franchise.

    • @3liteshadwgamer640
      @3liteshadwgamer640 Před 11 měsíci

      You are obviously bot working for Gunn….on behalf of DC fans; fuck James Gunn…

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 Před 11 měsíci +5

      I could have used another minute with Clooney, showing a more personable, friendly Batman, maybe throwing a party for Barry and his dad, with Batgirl and Robin (and others?) showing up.

    • @darrenseeley3713
      @darrenseeley3713 Před 11 měsíci +2

      But whys clooneys Batman? Dreadful.

    • @bigbasspa
      @bigbasspa Před 10 měsíci

      Those twats at WB are doing what Marvel did and are replacing the most popular characters with actors who have all the appeal of cold fries. Supergirl (Superwoman) looks like a pig stuck in the wrong time of the month - just gross. Fuck you WB and fuck you Marvel.

    • @albertorverastegui6352
      @albertorverastegui6352 Před 10 měsíci +2

      They're not messing with the franchise, they've been trying to fix 15 years of Snyder ruining it and being part of it because of his wife's nepotism. Snyder is a great director for movies like 300 or dawn of the Dead, the kind that are only dumb action with no substance and that's ok, he's in the same shelf as Michael Bay and that's profitable but they're not able to develope characters, to give them personality and make them grow, which is what a long lasting franchise needs.

  • @indigoyarkindell968
    @indigoyarkindell968 Před 8 měsíci

    The second would have maybe got me to watch it on Max. I don't know how anyone interested in DC would think that getting rid of the things they did or planned on doing would have any audience at all. So I'm surprised it didn't tank more than it has.

  • @cb3391
    @cb3391 Před 4 měsíci

    I agree you are 100% correct.

  • @danas916x
    @danas916x Před 9 měsíci +66

    I don't think the ending meant he was in the wrong universe. If you have watched the show it's the broken cup scenario. You can glue it back together but it is never quite right again. So different Batman, but clearly still knew barry, just a slight difference.

    • @gamerpsn7911
      @gamerpsn7911 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Well put

    • @mayhemmagnet
      @mayhemmagnet Před 8 měsíci +4

      That still doesn't mean we should have got that ending.

    • @rockyou9967
      @rockyou9967 Před 8 měsíci +1

      this means the next flash movie will revive clooney's batman. Oh my gah please kill me now

    • @chamoo232
      @chamoo232 Před 8 měsíci

      @@rockyou9967 You really think there is a next flash movie? The DCEU seems dead to me.

    • @Soron661
      @Soron661 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@chamoo232 It is dead. After Aquaman 2, there will be zero DCEU movies. The only ones we'll get will be DCU, which technically began with Blue Beetle as Gunn stated that was set in his DCU.

  • @federicomanueldavila9853
    @federicomanueldavila9853 Před 11 měsíci +21

    Super dissapointed by the clooney ending. I love george clooney, but that ending where batfleck was stuck in the mad max future and getting cavill back would have been awesome. So sad.

  • @aaronmurphy9353
    @aaronmurphy9353 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I liked the George Clooney ending, but the Cavill and Crew cameo would have been better. As would Michael Keatons cameo. Overall, Warner tanked their own movie franchise. Blue Beetle suffered in theaters and Aquaman 2 will too. I know a lot of my friends and family (as well as myself) are planning on boycotting ALL DC movies moving forward, that's how pissed we are over removing Henry as Superman. Didn't even go see the Blue Beetle movie and noone will go see the Aquaman 2 movie... and Jason Momoa is one of my favorite actors. I loved Aquaman 1. I doubt I'll see it in the main theaters. I might go see it in the discount theaters.

  • @goshen574
    @goshen574 Před 4 měsíci +4

    The final ending was the best. The reason why is because the ending implies that Barry, this version anyway, is lost in time and alternate dimensions, making it feel as though his timeline and dimension is lost forever and so is he, which is a nice way to wrap up the universe.

  • @michaelrivera8665
    @michaelrivera8665 Před 11 měsíci +22

    For me, I didn't know there were other endings out there. The ending we got did feel strange and unexpected.

  • @TrellTrill
    @TrellTrill Před 11 měsíci +7

    Michael Keaton : you already saved me kid, maybe not in this timeline
    My only hope to see Keaton again

  • @splawnrobert
    @splawnrobert Před 8 měsíci

    They've been saying that they're all going to be recast for YEARS. It's still the same cast.
    As a matter of fact, another cast member returned at the end of the latest SHAZAM movie.

  • @Ragegaugegamerz
    @Ragegaugegamerz Před 8 měsíci

    Will wait for the uncut release with optional true ending

  • @jcmaloney32
    @jcmaloney32 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Why the studio hate Henry Cahill so much?!

  • @iamedterry
    @iamedterry Před 11 měsíci +15

    The ending made sense because of the spaghetti analogy. Barry interacted with his mother when he should have just removed the tinned tomatoes. However, given all the reshuffling they either should have kept the original ending to preserve the film and figure out the reboot switcheroony later. Or dropped a mid-credits scene altogether since the future slate is in flux.

  • @user-yw5fu3vj3l
    @user-yw5fu3vj3l Před 7 měsíci +1

    This ending was quite odd for me and I actually thought Henry was gonna be I there

  • @dr.zippymcscoots8725
    @dr.zippymcscoots8725 Před 8 měsíci

    Superman is nearly angelic. He shows no anger towards the people with signs telling him to leave the world. Nicer that me. If I were Superman and had people screaming at me like that Id be gone. Occasionally you might see me fly around to wherever Im going but that would be it. Dont want me around fine.

  • @danielcooper3788
    @danielcooper3788 Před 11 měsíci +3

    the ending was absolutely absurd. we were robbed of a true ending. it should have been Keaton's bruce Wayne in the end scene.