Fedora's 40th Release: A Quick Look and Overview
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- It's hard to believe, but Fedora has just published the project's 40th release, which comes with GNOME 46 and Linux kernel 6.8. In this video, Jay gives you his thoughts on the latest version of the popular Linux desktop.
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00:00 - Intro
01:36 - Store
02:11 - First look at Fedora 40 (GNOME)
04:02 - Fedora 40 is boring, but Good
05:46 - Overall thoughts on Fedora 40
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Can't go wrong with Fedora GNOME or KDE.
Does the autorotation of the screen works like it works in ubuntu 23.10 using x11 or windows 11 ?
arch kde better
@@davidddo what do you think about Manjaro?
@@tiago.alegria.315 personally haven't tried it
If you install KDE, due to a bug you can't log on; a solution is been worked on but it is unclear how to fix this problem.
Fedora 40 is a power beast overall stability and perfomance while gaming even on a gtx 1650 ...would likely recommend to anyone.
I might switch to it from Windows mainly for development
I have this theory that Fedora grew into poplarity as the open source ecosystem matured. Because Fedora was always a testing ground for Red Hat, so it always had the latest open source packages. Normally distros would avoid that to remain stable. But programming has matured so much in the last 15 years that open source projects have gotten rid of a lot of the instability issues that created distros such as Debian stable. So Fedora just organically grew into an amazing distro by following the latest open source releases as they matured.
I agree with you, but also it was because of Fedora Silverblue. People got really curious about immutable systems.
@@AaronStarkLinux Sure, I switched to Silverblue in 22 and have not looked back since. But its popularity started bubbling way before that, primarily due to the stable nature of Fedora as a Gnome distro. Atomic Fedora is definitely the future of desktops.
It’s also a really good landing spot for Ubuntu refugees like myself
@@berniecat8756 🤣👍
@@berniecat8756 why Fedora over Ubuntu? Just curious.
The KDE Spin is fantastic
I totally agree!
Me too ;)
Totally
KDE >>> Gnome at the moment
@@maxwellkjr Yes, KDE is great. But it has many more bugs than Gnome.
It is not boring, it is mature and developed, as how every UI should be in operating system. And finally Nautilus have the clickable path, no more CTRL+L shenanigans. Last thing, properly working background apps and their taskbar icon representation with options, and we have a complete solid base. Plus of course further Wayland polishing, but that will happen anyway.
Mint and Fedora are my two go-to distros these days. I like the boring and reliable options. Just picked up a Thinkpad X1 Nano and will be installing Fedora 40 on it this weekend.
I wouldn't call either distro boring. Maybe out of the box, but they are both linux, so customization is simple
@@swagmuffin9000 I think they mean where it comes almost vanilla. Besides a couple of branding things Fedora pretty much keeps gnome vanilla. As for mint they made cinnamon so it's about as vanilla as it should be.
@@Derpingtonshere exactly. I'm just happy with how both Fedora and Mint work out of the box. I don't feel the need to do much tweaking to get both how I like. The stock setup is good enough for me. I know I could change it if I wanted, but I just don't feel the need to. So maybe not so much boring distros, just a boring user, haha.
@@MrMoogle You're not a boring user, you're just the user they were targeting. You had the same ideas of what an OS should be as they did. Also it's nice to have that choice as well to change it to if need be.
Those two distros are amazing creations. I always recommend newcomers to Linux to try either one. I generally have more devices on Mint than Fedora just cuz I like how cool Cinnamon looks. Mint and Fedora you can just install and get to work. Wanna tweak stuff and be geeky? Archinstall 😉
Going to install Fedora 40 on one of my laptops! Thanks for the video!
I've been using fedora 40 since it's stable release, and I haven't seen a single problem from 39 to 40. When updating from 38 to 39 I had some issues with gnome software not updating everything, but just using dnf system-upgrade is nearly just as easy. Fedora has been solid for the year that I've been using it as my main desktop, and it keeps getting better.
I have a conflict on one of my servers upgrading from F38 to F40, but unlike fedora 33, the upgrade stopped me upgrading until I fix it. Having used it since 1997 when it was Redhat, you do have the odd problem, but nothing that can't be fixed.
Yeah it was fixable. Effectively the problem was that gnome software didn't update all the groups on the system, so I was missing the new color command prompt that they added in fedora 39. I honestly wouldn't have noticed if that weren't the case. I reported the problem to gnome and the maintainers figured out where the problem was happening, and I believe it's fixed now.
Will you be creating courses for LPIC 1 & 2 as well?
Oh, I configured Debian 12 with GNOME, set it up, and for now, I don't plan on jumping back and forth. :D
I love Debian but I had to change to fedora because a molecular modeling package was very hard to compile in Debian, but it worked on fedora, and I am impressed with fedora.
And It just works! I am so happy with it because it hasn't have any idle freezes unlike Manjaro
I think that Jay and his channel should be applauded for all the work he has put into the very many tutorials concerning Fedora Workstation 40. But what about showing new users the basic everyday commands they should learn in order that they get the most out of this great operating system?
How fast time flies, I was following my professor for getting CD for fedora4 or fedora3 and now after almost 12 years later its fedora 40
Sorry to break this to you but Fedora 3/4 was 20 years ago. Time does indeed fly fast.
CDs? Huh! you are a young man. You should try with a floppy disk :P
Damn I'm like a toddler to you guys and I was when you started using fedora I started my journey July past year lol and I was born in 2004
@@AaronStarkLinux I still have 2 floppy disks
@@Tomatgurka it was around 2007-2008
It was the best distribution that worked well with my laptop's hardware
I migrated away from Windows because of the telemetry (and other issues) this year; after getting the barebones hang of Linux and distro-hopping like a madman, I've finally settled on Fedora as my go-to; I'm incredibly satisfied with it and glad I switched!
What is that keyboard with a scroll wheel?
Jay did you ever had problems with some SSD since you rewrite often on the same one as demo distro installations?
Interesting question
It's far from it's limit, SSD can die anytime, but even cheap ones has specification like they can be written 600 times. Formatting filesystem or Linux installation can result in maybe 5-20GB of data written, which is fraction if disc capacity. I assume that storing temporary files when editing videos can be worse.
@@pavelperina7629 Thanks for the positive comment. I feel better.
Jay is going through his emo phase
my past experience with fedora as it would introduce new things and instability things constantly breaking and falling apart has things gotten better? compare the stability to debian testing
Did they finally get a Snapper/btrfs rollback setup like OpenSUSE?
You are looking for Btrfs Assistant. It makes setting up snapper really easy. There is however no grub integration in Fedora.
Thank you so much Jay for the Linux essential course!!! That's a great jump and I'm glad you are entering the education space!
What's the distro you use?
please help me... i am new to linux but my wifi is not working under fedora ...what should i do..i have broadcom proprietary ...please help
now i am using Linux mint
You'll need to install a DKMS driver or replace the Wi-Fi card.
Can you do a review of Bluefin, Aurora, and Bazzite v3.0?
I occasionally dip into Linux distros to see if things have moved on. Tried this one for a bit, but the stock Gnome has such odd design decisions. Like, having to move the mouse all the way top left, then all the way back down to the app button, then back up to select an app! Why don't windows have proper title bars so you can drag them? Instead you have to hunt for the bit on the title bar that doesn't have buttons or menus, madness.
The only issue I have come across with Fedora 40 is the terraform repos do not work with it so cant update the packages. So for now 39 remains the daily coding driver for IaC for me.
I like Fedora and Pop!Os. Both seem to work well. If you are on Fedora 39 do any updates needed first then upgrade to 40. Especially If running Fedora in Virtualbox 7
Yes, update all packages before updating the distro, upgrade virtual box as well.
thankss
Would appreciate if you can do an actual review of KDE spin
Fedora 39 with gnome 45 was the first Linux os that I install and everithing works... Simple... Camera micro printer scan... So I can use it for day to day and to study or create some art works... I just love it... I didn't install the fedora40 because at that time says beta instable... So I continue to use fedora 39 whit dash to dock and all works just fine I'm very happy! Finally a Linux os easy to install and everything works... So windows will be past with time I think.
A Video on how to fix the KDE bug would be great.
Looking forward to an episode talking about Linux vs AI😂
Hyprland Jay, it would be awesome review
Fabulous beard, Jay!
Jay, you should offer like a 10% discount for the first 50 people who sign up for your course, or something like that. It's a good way to get more people to sign up. I'm interested.
In my situation I had to choose something newer because of the new hardware I have
I like Arch, but at the same time it doesn't inspire that confidence with the AUR
And Fedora leaves a lot to be desired, but overall it's worth it.
I probably care more about stability as a long time Debian user
I just installed the KDE spin on my laptop.
On 4k monitor experience is good?
Yes
I like the Fedora kinoite 40, but why is all fedora distros I use soooo slow. When I update the system in arch with pacman it's so fast! Incredibly fast. That's the main reason I don't switch to Fedora
dnf is well known to be a rather slow package manager
Man, I remember Fedora NINE! That was my first real Linux experience.
("Real" as in I had played around with command-line-only Red Hat some years before that, but didn't possess the hardware required for it to be useful.)
I remember Fedora 29 back in 2018 when I first tried the distro, then I went back for Fedora 39 in 2023.
I installed it for the first tme 2 days ago. I had to take off my RTX 4090 and put back my RX 7900XTX because nvidia drivers install seemed painfull. But everything runs fine now and games run fast enough. Did not tinker or optimize the distro (I don't know it). So seems good for now.
I saw this video in my feed and decided, I'd heard enough great things.
A lot of my friends love it, my dad loves it, there's practically no complaints -- I should try it.
I absolutely love how well tuned everything is, but the guardrails to protect that tuning are too solid and too strict for my taste. I also don't trust the intent of those guardrails.
For example, right out of the box, the installer shows a lot of very minimalistic options that don't show you enough information to understand how the partition table is being formatted. This is an easy fix with sudo su - in the terminal (graciously provided with the live environment) -- but if you have to circumvent the installer that way to have information during your manual partitioning and mounting, something is wrong.
Automatic installation is very easy, but it locks you into BTRFS. Since I don't do high fidelity data storage, a BTRFS filesystem can only hurt me. All of my use cases are far better served with EXT4, XFS, or ideally, UFS.
Not allowing UFS could be forgiven, because that filesystem protocol is exclusive to BSD. Selecting EXT4 or XFS in the installer left me taking shots in the dark, while being heavily pressured to choose BTRFS. I was able to verify and straighten it out with fdisk and mkfs using the terminal (which was thankfully accessible before final installation); but my point is that the manual option for the installer should give me the information needed to responsibly direct the formatting and mounting of disk partitions.
After dealing with the install, which seemed to be doing its best to make the default choice a "choice"; with no practical reason for doing so (outside of simply getting me to use a filesystem and partitioning scheme that doesn't work well for my needs) -- the telemetry, pop-ups, and preaching about how I should treat my system, did not amuse me.
Something I noticed once I'd gotten settled in and started using the environment was, choices the OS wanted you to make (a lot of which had negative impacts, from clipping your wings to being outright dangerous) were very quick and extremely easy to finalize; but anything outside of their plan for you was made artificially difficult, while woes were expressed and you were shown these weird fake red tape messages in a passive-aggressive manner. Not giving in to Fedora's wants reminded me of dealing with my phone company.
None of what it does is quite as brazen as the fact that in order to use de-googled linux Mint, you need to shim the window manager with a dummy gnome-online-accounts package, prior to allowing the package manager to install it; but Fedora creates a very oppressive admin experience in my opinion, that just gets under my skin -- like a corporate "we care" resource the company doesn't care about.
Once everything was set up, and there were no decisions to make regarding the operating system or how it should handle something, it was the best experience I've had in a linux environment. Even when the well-tuned presets it's built on were changed, it continued to be the best tuned distro I'd ever tried.
Unfortunately, the fact that it wants you to pull teeth in order to intervene, or to tell it something other than "yes"; makes it too much of a problem child for me to daily drive.
I can't even recommend it to normal people -- who would appreciate it for the stability and the environment. It still requires enough technical know-how to drive, that anyone who I believe would benefit more than they would be bothered, just wouldn't be able to use it.
My Fedora 40 looks good I like it, only one problem. I can connet my wifi at home, but in the office I can connet, but I don't have internet. I thout about swich other distro. :-(
I will be honest with you... I do prefer arch, HOWEVER I did give fedora a try for the 1st time in fedora 38-39, it held me for 9 months. Which takes a lot because I am usually not sticking to a single distro for more than 2 months. Fedora was the most solid and stable distro I have ever used... Only reason I switched back to arch is because I am a tinkerer at heart NOT A RICER. If I am going to recommend a pre configured distro to anyone it will always be Fedora. Hopefully it will be around for a long time.
Does it have the new installer?
Same installer
It was pushed for the next release. They are still working on it
Fedora is pretty cool. I use Arch BTW.
I use Garuda & KDE Neon on separate drives, excellent. Tried Fedora KDE beta. Kept losing internet connection after waking from Sleep. I will give it another try 😃
I have turned off Sleep and hibernate, its ether on or off
@@clivewiddus3953 Thanks for the advice. I've discovered it's private internet access(vpn) that's causing the issue. I have reported the bug.
@@clivewiddus3953 Thanks for the advice. I discovered its private internet access(vpn) causing the issue. I have reported it to pia. I hope it gets solved soon.
@@clivewiddus3953 Thanks for you advice. I discoverd it's pia(vpn) causing the issue.
@@clivewiddus3953 Thanks for the advice. I've discoverd it's private internet acsess causing the issue.
Ubuntu is releasing its LTS version today. Too bad they wont be shipping new KDE 6 until 24.10.
I'm considering moving to Fedora 40 or Nobara from Win 10, I don't want anything to do with Win 11 with the upcoming spyware.
i like the new intro, good looking, clean and overall a banger
The only issue I have is the Nvidia kernel module breaks every time I upgrade versions
LOL, that happened with you too? I ran a bunch of commands and did not get any clear feedback if anything worked in particular and after a few restarts it just worked again. What do you usually do?
@@patrickjoseph3412 I ran "dnf remove 'kmod-nvidia-*" and then used "kmods --force", the first command did not give feedback and may be a mistyped "Akmods", but I booted fine after running these. I have no way of retesting this with my current skill level, I was just able to determine it was a NVIDIA kernel module related issue and went from there running related commands I scrapped off the internet.
@@patrickjoseph3412 I ran a few reinstall commands (none of the modules were missing), then tried dnf install 'akmod-nvidia-* weird syntax and all plus a few variations with kmod/kmods/driver/drivers, which seems to just hang, and finally ran akmods --force and rebooted, one of those seemed to have done it. I am not technical enough to replicate and verify which command worked or if it was a fluke after enough reboots.
@@SS-ARYAN reporting back again . the module fails to build and i found that just deleting the divers and reinstalling works . dnf erase *nvidia* reboot , dnf install akmod-nvidia and once again reboot fixed it for me. i guess the module fails to build properly and requires a fresh start
@@patrickjoseph3412 Yeah, that's pretty much what I tried plus a few more other things, tried to type if out yesterday but YT kept deleting my comments for some reason.
Fedora's 40th vs Ubuntu 24 LTS. Which one is the best for newbie >
It's a bad comparison since Ubuntu 24.04 LTS will have 5 years of support or even 10 with Pro, and Fedora 1 year. Use whatever you like, but I will always recommend the longest support for newbies.
@@AaronStarkLinux you know what... Fedora generally develops new releases over a six month period to provide a regular and predictable release schedule
@@congdatt and?
Ubuntu, most Linux tutorials are geared towards Ubuntu.
Cool
I'm on fedora 39 kde and didn't get any updates
You need to do it manually. Check dnf-system-upgrade
@@davesaah gnome users just get a button on gnome software center, I don't want to use terminal
@@davesaah at the command line "sudo yum upgrade -y" you need super user privileges to perform upgrades. The GNOME package program has a refresh button on the top left, try pressing it to get it to refresh, and finally you need Internet access.
Never seen "dnf system upgrade", are you sure you are not referring to "dnf dist-upgrade"?
Its great for me (that prefers a peace filled and calm life running a stable OS) that there's people always wanting to bang their heads against the wall testing the latest & greatest packages in order to push things forward
hmmmmi use debian and would like to use fedora (idk maybe sometimes later)
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Every time I hear GNOME referred to as a popular Linux desktop I have to scratch my head and wonder what kind of yokel likes GNOME. That Fedora needs to tweak it just reinforces this point. Praising this integration and then referring to it as untouched is a bit of a head scratcher of its own. It is certainly a common DE, but popular?
Not gonna touch on the dev side of GNOME, but for my mouseless workflow GNOME46 with a little bit of customization is an undisputed king of UI.
What a great hairstyle! 😂😂
that intro SCREAMS "I"M A DAD"
Almost more commercials in this video than content!
@@monki_sudo Then you didn't watch the video. They are his endless self promotion inside the video and a little bit about Fedora.
@@monki_sudo No. I do not. Maybe you prefer a Pampers ad?
Watching this video on Ubuntu 22.04 with Gnome 42. I'm not in a rush 😂
better not be on debian based distros lol
@@kolz4ever1980 Oh wow, I didn't know that. I suppose you opened my eyes after 20 years of using Linux the wrong way... Thank you, man :)
@@kolz4ever1980 Why is a problem to have a debian based distro?
@@maximilianomoyano9748 because if you're in a rush for anything it's not good to be on Debian based distros. ;)
Fedora 40 Workstation is still buggy.
That's why I don't recommend upgrading right away after a new release. There is no need to rush.
First View, First Like!!!!!
103rd!
Well i installed it yesterday .
My audio device stopped working.
I did all trouble shooting from basic to advanced. No way reddit folks i ain't gonna sit to edit the system file myself. So roll back
It would have been nice if you had said what the device was, and who made it.
nvidia + wayland still not working properly... will return after another 5 years...
There are other graphic card manufactures, I have AMD which works great on both monitors using Fedora 40.
Well think again. I tired to install Fedora 40 in dualboot with opensuse. I tried this 2 times yesterday. 2 times it bricked my laptop. The laptop was starting, the fans working full power, but nothing. F10 (bios shortcut) and F2 (boot options) were active but when you hit them system was left at "Entering bios setup" etc. No way to boot from a usb, or windows rescue drive. Only way to save it was the super+B key pressed while powering on to enter "BIOS rescue". I had to rescue BIOS!!!!! Maybe it was faulty drive and media, so I downloaded again, different usb stick, guess what, bricked again!!! Fedora is never getting on my machine again, I never had such an issue before, I was using Tumbleweed on dual boot. Come on, screwing up boot can be accepted, but turning the computer into a state where you cannot even enter BIOS????
PICNIC possibly? Just kidding! I suspect like you say there may have been a problem with the installer or there's something about your hardware it doesn't like. There are so many hardware configurations out there that just by the law of reason, means it's not going to work on every computer.
@@ReimaginedbySteve Hi, turns out it was my fault (along with Fedora a little) of course :). Before installing fedora I did not properly clean EFI records of previous linux distros. I read about it and cleaned them in window by "bcdedit". I noticed that looks like Fedora somehow tried to overwrite the opensuse EFI record. Their identifiers were identical, there were 2 seperate records with same identifier. I guess this messed up things. I don't know why I could not get into bios though. After doing the necessary cleaning, I was able to install Fedora without errors. Forgive my ignorance there :D.
@@EmreErdogan That is a pain. I've certainly seen that before. It definitely shouldn't still be a thing in this day and age.
GAH-NOME
fedora server is not boring
@this rate Fedora will get older before I do
This tells practically nothing about what Fedora presents, its ideology etc. for someone who has not used Fedora. Those who have, it provides nothing either. What is the point of this?
A polished OS, but too reminiscent of MS Windows for my liking. I'll stick with Debian and XFCE.
Like debian boring. Stable, reliable.
Best things I like about the lastest 40 releases is how well they run in vm and alone, fast and more reliable than in the past. Theming is lacking but the idea is for the os to be out of the way and you choose the apps you want which has there own theme, days of the OS in front is over. Gnome takes up 2% at the top and a auto hide bottom which you gives you add less time really working with your apps.
Imagine the Gnome experience of Fedora (Vanilla AF) but on rolling release, that ships the next Gnome version one day after the release announcement.
You are now thinking about ALT Linux - Sisyphus (aka the regular release).
They release live ISO's, with several desktop environments, on a weekly basis.
"Fedora really doesnt call that much attention to itself" "You barely even know its there"
After Fedora saw what happened to CentOS and RedHat, it knew that staying off IBM's radar is a good thing.
The reality is that IBM pumped more cash into Linux dev than every other company combined
@@radman999Sadly, that doesn't matter if they keep screwing over their users.
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where is the problem with install ?
"GNOME is integrated so well into Fedora that you'd swear it was designed for Fedora".
Gee, I wonder why. If I didn't know, I would think that Red Hat paid GNOME developers. /s
Red hat pays its employees to be GNOME developers
Red hat own Fedora trademark and can they shut down Fedora Linux anytime they want
for users with NVIDIA esp. with CUDA, plz do not upgrade to 40 now. Cuda doesn't support gcc-14 so far. they took a year from gcc-12 to gcc-13. so maybe next year
Not being open source you can't download it and build it yourself.
As usual, always slow in virtualbox, the wallpaper couldn't be less exciting, there is no appeal to adopt this distro and release. They have a user base three times less than ubuntu. I have used many linux distros but with fedora I never went beyond trying it in a virtual machine, considering it "heavy" and slow.
Virtual Box is slow compared to installing a second hard drive and dual booting
Gnome and performance update. Video summarized. Over half of the video is an ad and really doesn't sit well with me.
The name always throws me off can't I just fork it and white label it with my own branding like oracle does with RHEL
Anyone else finds KDE buggy?
On Fedora, yes. Not so with Arch KDE.
KDE is good , was good with manjaro until the update got screwd up
@@neroetal Manjaro isn't really Arch. It's more like the relationship between Ubuntu and Debian.
@@cameronbosch1213 no one has mentioned arch lol
@@neroetal Some people think Manjaro is Arch. It barely is.
The most shity desktop when most things zoom in and out. Combine appsshop with updates is bad thing. Move your cursor to the top left and down middle to launch app ehe :( for me no problem use keyboard but for most people big no.
Why do you think we install KDE?
Please go back to "nice guy" haircut. This looks awkward on you.
More accurate stamps:
0:00 Useless stuff (pre intro joke, animations, intro, BTW I GOT SHOP),
2:12 actual content,
5:45 more useless stuff AND BTW DON'T FORGET ABOUT TO GIVE ME MONEY
KDE...
Why to keep advertising a figure in a Linux channel, the one at your back right, it's unrelevant
What a boring video. It seems like the script was written using chatGPT.
i love fedora, it might be "boring" to some but its a nice clean canvas for others to make it work for them as they see fit with a rock solid foundation.