Lectric XP Trike KILLER !?! | Addmotor CityTri E310
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- Is this new Addmotor CityTri E310 better than the Lectric XP Trike? In many ways, it is.
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ATTENTION: Addmotor now offers a PLUS SIZE for just $100 more. As a result of watching my video and several of you reaching out to the company about a size for larger people, the company as created the PLUS size with larger tires and an adjustable handle bar stem! WAY TO GO ADDMOTOR!!
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------- HUGE UPDATE / ATTENTION: Addmotor now offers a PLUS SIZE for just $100 more. As a result of watching my video and several of you reaching out to the company about a size for larger people, the company has created the PLUS size with larger tires and an adjustable handle bar stem! WAY TO GO ADDMOTOR!! ALSO, 8/27/23 Addmotor admitted a mistake on their website and the actual width of the E-310 is 29" not the 26" discussed in the video.
Looking forward to your review of this Trike! Really appreciate your videos!
Thanks Bobbie Jean. More videos about it coming soon.
Great comments. Now they have come out with a Plus model CityTri E310 which is more attractive to me. The Bison Pro seems to big and awkward at the moment. Thanks again for your excellent review.
Hi Richard, as usual great review. Mechanical brakes, deal breaker for me. Build quality, who knows until you have it in front of you. As far as I can see this bike overall has nothing over the xp other than a stronger motor
I have it now. Build quality is very good, the stronger motor is very nice to have especially in hilly areas. Front suspension smooths out the ride a little, so I noticed a difference there. I like it overall, but its slightly less stable than the Lectric XP.
I really like your reviews.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. Been getting some hate mail recently.
I’ll wait for it to be delivered and actually tested.
I think it's fantastic need a bigger motor and more powerful for people who drives it in town like me if it comes put together definitely going to keep an eye on it I have a Lectric xp but not powerful enough I'm also having problems with it we need another choice all my best Ramon from Athens Georgia
What kind of problems are you having
I'm having a hard time getting it out of that slow gear and I can't get the emergency brakes to work
@@ramonparson9887 you mean the slower speed you can unlock it to go 14 mph you can find that online
I’m sure exactly what you mean by gear because xp trike doesn’t have gears
I enjoy your reviews of etrikes. They are very good and very helpful. May I recommend a trike that I am looking at? Look at the Sixthreezero foldable trike at $1,699. It has all the things you seem to want and it folds easily. Thank you again for all of your reviews.
Those wheels may be a bit small for a trike.
Thanks for the compliment and for being a subscriber. I looked the trike over, its an interesting design. I don't care for the small tires, but that is just a preference.
Since my lectric trike came damaged and unridable, so this might my next trike!
We will know in early October when it ships if its a good replacement for the Lectric XP.
It would be nice if these things came with "highway pegs". As a person with mobility issues, I would mainly use it electronically, using the pedals only for somewhere to put my feet. The problem is the position one is in with just the pedals. Don has the Lectric Etrike and I found it very uncomfortable for my feet/legs using just the pedals to rest my feet on. ~Joyce
Agreed. The closest thing I have seen is from Addmotor, on one of their trike models they have a wooden platform between the pedals that is used as a footrest. It maybe possible to make something like that for other trikes.
E310 width
I really appreciate your comments and frequent updates.
I am puzzled by Admotor's decision to limit the width of the E310 to 26", especially with the enhanced power and speed.
I just watched a side-by-side comparison of the RAD and the Lectric trike. The reviewer noted more stability in the RAD (33"w) vs the Lectric (30.5"w). The E310 will be 7" inches narrower than the RAD. I fear that the E310 will be much more vulnerable to tipping.
Thoughts?
I share your concern, I hope its not a bust since we just ordered one. Being more narrow is better for getting thru doorways, so for people in apartments it would be great. But are they sacrificing safety? Possibly. Thanks for the comments and support.
I appreciate your objective comparison . Viewed both of your videos on the Lectric XP and the Addmotor 310. While I am still shopping it appears the 310 has more going for it even though cost $500 more. In addition, I will need to purchase the front and rear baskets for another $150. Question, have you found any aftermarket baskets that would fit these trikes? Being able to fold these trikes and fit into my SUV is a big concern for me.
First, after market baskets are hard to find. There seems to be no standard in bolt patterns. I suggest contacting addmotor and just ask if they will include them. Someone else told me they asked and got them for free. As for hauling in the SUV, although it folds, its not easy to lift. I suggest a hitch carrier.
Well it looks interesting, I live in a hirise & the length would make it very hard to use the elevator.
Maybe roll it in and fold the front wheel partly back?
@@EbikeReviews my XP Trike only rolls into one of 3 elevators, I just pull the rear end side ways. But the extra length would make it hard. Have a bad leg & arm not big on folding trike up
@@timbuckingham6734 Ah, I understand your dilemma now. Well thankfully the XP fits.
I think maybe I might do it if I have to return my Lectrictrike XP. I like my new trike, but right now it's not able to move because the back wheels are stuck with the fender being squished. I am going to have to take it to a bike shop to get professionals to work on it because my husband doesn't want to mess with it and possibly break it and I am even less mechanically inclined than he is.
However, what concerns me about this trike you are looking at is the rider weight limit. For myself, I am sitting at 289 lbs and the xP has a higher rider weight limit than the one you are looking at. I want my trike to be able to support my weight as I use it to try to shift some of it. I want to be able to ride with my kids, but my balance issues make me too unsafe on a bicycle. I also need to be able to use it for mobility because I can't drive a car and it's hard to get anywhere independently without something like this to help me.
Sounds like the XP might be the better options. Its terrible that a new trike has to be fixed. But I'm hoping once we get pas this that it will be a great trike. My wife liked it a lot the one time she was able to ride it before it broke.
The fenders are made of a relatively soft material that is easy to adjust. By applying slight pressure (wear protective gloves), you can manipulate the position of the fenders. Don't do it all at once. Adjust it a little bit at a time and repeat until you have them in place.
You might want to watch his other videos on the XP- he's done all that and then some. The issues are more complex than just bent fenders. I was considering the XP until I learned that the shipping damage issue is common (I don't have a handiman, and my hands aren't capable of that kind of work anymore). @@elliotflorida3469
Have you looked at the Addmotor M-330-F ? Myself, at 6'3" 330# it seems very attractive, except for the higher price. Higher rider/payload cap., 3" tires, 25 amp. controller, 7 speed Shimano derailleur, w/7level PAS. Also mid-axis torque sensor whatever that does.
I have not taken a deep dive into it, maybe I will. Thanks.
Add rear axle is 5” wider I think
how hard would it be to add front shocks to a Lectric ?
I just ordered one today!!
The e-310 or the Lectic?
@@EbikeReviews I have the lectric I just ordered the E 310
@@EbikeReviews i’m a bigger guy at 290 and that bigger motor impressed me
@@timothymusolff4600 That has to be the most powerful motor on a trike. Usually they are 60-80nm. My Magicycle Deer has 96nm and it's very powerful. I just hope there is a way to adjust it for people that want an easier less aggressive ride.
Hello Richard how are you doing. Have you heard anything about e-310 being shipped. Thanks ott
Noy yet, I just know it was delayed until early October, hope to get an update soon.
If Addmotor was to make that go-cart style w 2 wheels up front and steering wheel instead of handle bars, they would have a hit on their hands, especially with younger kids. Or have a clip-on front end option. 😊
Ha, I have actually been thinking recently a 4 wheel option would be amazing fun. I would be first in line.
The main difference in the two is motor, battery, weigh and width. Both bikes will lock up when trying to push backwards. Making them difficult to get out of bike racks, sore them in a closet or corner. without tilting the off of one rear wheel so it will roll. Especially with the Addmotor weighing ten pounds more than the Lectric. And the Lectrc will barely fit through a standard 32 inch interior door. And the Add motor will not. So if you do not have a garage. You store the bike in the living room or outside with a cover. And do you really want to spend $500 for a bike that goes 20 mph over 14 mph. On a bike that the faster you go. The easier it s to be dragging your face on the tarmac.
Well Charles, your wrong on several issues. I back up the Lectric XP trike with no problem. The Lectric is just a little wider than the e-310 so not sure why you think the E-310 wont fit thru the same door. The speed you have correct, but for those that want to go faster they have that option with the e-310. The e-310 also has a lot more power to get up hills, 90nm of torque verses 65nm. It has brand name components over Lectric or no name brand. It has suspension front forks. It has three disk brakes instead of two. It comes in three sizes and more color options. As soon I get mine, I'll speak to the overall build quality and the packaging which has left far too many Lectric customers with damaged trikes.
Thanks again for your review. I am thinking about purchasing an Etrike. As with your wife, I am willing to spend what it takes to get a good product that is satisfying. I was looking at the Emojo Bison Pro. It has most of the things that I was wanting except for the torque as you pointed out. This CityTri 310 in the PLUS size seems to be better. It does not have the hydraulic brakes but has the triple mechanical disc brakes. it has the 750 Watt, foldable, front suspension. Do you recommend the CityTri or the Bison Pro? Are the mechanical brakes harder than the hydraulic brakes? As the only difference, are the brakes the game changer? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Thanks for the great question. I am selling my Bison Pro. Although its a good trike, its very large. Once my wife tested the Lectric XP, we realized the 500w motor is very powerful, the front suspension isn't a problem until we have to leave the hard surface, and over all despite the issues we had with shipping damages, we both like riding it. As for the E-310, we don't have it yet. Based on the specs, its better than the Lectric XP, even with mechanical brakes. We like that is a smaller size. Ad for the E-310 and mechanical brakes, you shouldn't notice any difference in stopping power. Hydraulic is a little better and also easier to maintain. If its an issue, you can buy hydraulic calipers that replace the mechanical ones. It used the same brake lever, still has a cable running to it, but the caliper is hydraulic. Amazon sells them for about $50. I have high hopes for the E-310.
@@EbikeReviews Thank you for your opinion. I think that you are correct. I will relook the E-310 and the Lectric XP. Your help is greatly appreciated as you are knowledgeable and share with others. Your issues with the Lectric XP frightened me since I am not a mechanic in any way. Blessings to you always. I will let you know what I decide.
@@EbikeReviews thanks for the note. My concern seems to be relieved about the Lectric XP. At 310, and without the front suspension, it will still give me a great ride. I live in Chicago that has no hills, having previously been a swamp. Will always be on pavement and bike paths. I also reviewed the Triketan M-330F, bigger and stronger bike and twice as expensive as Lectric XP. No hydraulic disk brakes but has front suspension. I will probably forego the front suspension for the Lectric XP. Any comments are appreciated of course. Blessings always.
I would be very interested in buying the Bison Pro from you. I live in Chicago, though. Let me know if it is possible.
@@frcarlpieber4948 Sorry, not possible. Shipping would be $300-$400.
Hmm, would be nice if there was some sort of harness for my crutches. I'm trying to think of if something like this can work for me. Wife and I want a little freedom but my scooter is slow, maybe 4mph, and the range is maybe ten miles. I agree with @disablednomads, I want to park my feet. My right foot may not sit on the pedal for any amount of distance.
Jesse there are options to make it work. One is, there is a fishing rod holder that is just a couple of tubes, that you can zip tie to the cargo basket. Then stick the crutches into the tubes. That should work. Also, there are brackets for hauling surfboards and longer items, that can probably be incorporate also. Don't give up, just think creative.
Do you know of any companies that will ship etrikes to different states?
I was wondering if a person couldn’t put cable Pull hydraulic brakes like juin tech brakes on it?
I was thinking the same thing. I wont know until I get it, but it might be a good upgrade.
Lectric XP Trike Killer!!! You did not convince me on this post. Your "review" sounded more like a commercial since you have actually never even seen this trike.😇
No one has seen this trike because it has not started shipping yet. Far from a commercial, I spoke about the Specs I liked and the ones I did not. Very unbiased. I won't know how it performs until its available.
You left out the question mark in your quote of the title. Moreover, it's clear he is just reviewing the specs. Why did you bother posting your comment?
@@andrevanderwalt69 thanks for the support!!! Its much appreciated.
Road test critical. Agree you just read specs. Also $500 difference between this and Lectric trike is significant. Latter has some nice features. They all are limited to ~14 mph although one can unlock to get a few extra mph speed.
Here's more: price of $1999does not include cargo accessory, and no hydraulic brakes. Specs says it weighs a whopping 86 lbs!. I like the looks though.
I noticed this model doesn’t have the chain guard like I’ve seen on other brands. My concern if my wife gets this and wearing long pants it could cause a potential safety risk. Should she be concerned?
I don't believe it would be a problem. Many ebikes come without a chain guard. As long as they have a guard around the front chain ring, that will protect anything from getting pinched there. The rear sprocket is far enough back that its not a problem either. On rare occasions my leg will run against a chain and the worst that happens is I get a little chain lube on it. But very little risk of getting pant legs snagged.
How does it compare with the Liberty trike?
Not much of a comparison. The only thing I like about the Liberty Trike is that it has a reverse like the RAD Power Bike Trike. Liberty has small tires, the motor is 750w but don't let that fool you, it only has 60nm of torque. Torque is the power to get thru grass or up a hill. The rear brakes are "coaster" style which is like a traditional bike that you have to press backward on the pedal to stop. It only goes 12mph, the range is only 8-20 miles, they do not say what the battery size is but my guess is 10ah. I stopped looking after that, hope that was helpful.
Addmotor sales team (Addmotor)
Oct 6, 2023, 19:24 PDT
Dear Addrider,
Thanks for your confirmation.
Your order has been put forward to the shipping team for shipment procedure, an email with a shipping notification will be sent once it is shipped.
*Please ensure the preservation of both the outer box and inner packaging during the effect of the warranty clause.
In the event of a return or repair request, any additional requirements related to the outer box may incur charges.
Here is the estimated delivery time for reference:
😢5-8 days fo ga tin area
6-10 Florida
Best Regards,
Addmotor Customer Service Team
Thanks for the update, I'm waiting for a tracking number.
@@EbikeReviews my first e-bike kinda excited you have a good weekend
The advantages of the bigger motor and battery will be somewhat minimized due to the increased weight of the trike. Also, I think the height restriction is legitimate because of the design of the trike. There actually is a simple difference between the Addmotor and Lectric trike that is clearly visible in the side-by-side photos you posted those likely accounts for this. Time will tell. If it is correct, which I hope it is not, this will definitely limit sales somewhat.
Not everyone will be thrilled with the large size. Because of where I live with very limited space, I would not be able to use the Addmotor trike.
By the way, the Lectric's claimed range is correct/accurate as per the information on their website. 60 miles is achievable. Not sure why you feel the Addmotor's range will be half of their claimed range. It may not be spot on but half? Since there are so many considerations when it comes to range, it is difficult to get accuracy.
I agree weight can be a factor, but in this case I think it will have a very minimal affect. I have been thinking about the height restrictions and it could be because the E310 is a few inches more narrow. So they are trying to prevent tipping issues. Not sure why they would go so narrow. As for mileage, I have not been able to range test the XP because its been broke. I have heard that their posted range is more accurate. Most brands publish the very best laboratory results. So realistically how most people ride with real riding conditions its just generally accepted to cut the advertised range in half to get a better idea what to expect. Of course, I have encourage people to do their own range test so they know the capability of the ebike based on how and where they ride.
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I am looking forward to your full reviews of both and always enjoy all your reviews!
I believe the AddMotor is a few inches wider than the Lectic. All these types of trikes are not necessarily stable on turns and care needs to be used when turning at all times with all trikes.
As far as driving range, I agree with your premise, yet I do get mileage ranges consistent with Lectric's stated figures with my trike. I do live in South Florida in a relatively flat area with minimal inclines. And few stops. So, the AddMotor would likely do well too in my area as well. So, if 45 miles is realistic, it is certainly ample for most. Time will tell. Perhaps you can let us know. Many factors contribute to an ebike's or trike's range obviously. Cutting the claimed ranges in half is probably a good and 'safe' way to estimate realistic range for most. I doubt that most people using trikes like these will be out on long excursions lasting several hours at a time, so it is likely a non-issue anyway. Whether you get 30 or 50 miles of range is not a concern for those who only ride 10-20 miles on a typical outing. Based on comments I see from Lectric riders on FB, many ride 5-10 miles on typical trips. Personally, I ride about 10-15 per trip.
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I believe the reason for the height restriction is because of the position of the pedals. It seems to be farther to the rear than one would expect. Especially considering the AddMotor trike is about 7 inches longer than the Lectric XP. Just an observation from the image you posted of the two trikes side by side.
I can understand tire size making a difference in minimum height recommendations but if the frame is the same it does make sense to me that bigger wheels could possibly make a difference in maximum height. It just means a taller rider doesn't have as far to go before their butt hits the seat with bigger tires. Once seated and riding frame geometry is the only thing making a difference for various size riders. I initially thought perhaps it had something to do with center of gravity since it's so narrow but then I thought taller tires and a taller rider will compound any problem with being top heavy. I plan to buy a trike next year and so far Lectric has been the only one I keep coming back to but this one might actually give me something to think about with the plus size option now. I'm looking forward to reviews. Thanks for the video.
@@XterraforceThanks for sharing your comments and the support. I hope to get ours in a few weeks.
Just discovered your post about the Addmotor E-310 Plus and have subscribed. I've spent the last several days reading/viewing everything I can find about e-trikes to see if I want to sell my car and transition. I live in Houston, which is flat, and would be using the trike for all transportation -- generally less than 10 miles distance; always on pavement (that can still be rough). Your review of the Addmotor E-310 addressed all the questions I have about preferred brakes, motor power; although not so much about whether fat tires would be a good idea even if no off-road use. Tippiness is concerning. And of course budget is an issue -- prefer under $2,500. Do you have any additional thoughts? Thanks for the good you're doing with this information.
I am working on a full review. I like the e-310 a lot for many reasons. Good quality build, strong motor, larger battery than most for more distance. its a little tippy, but once you ride in a little while you get familiar with what you can do and what you shouldn't. I don't have any concerns about tipping over, although accidents happen so its always a possibility. Lectric XP is a little more stable, but, the lower speed, shipping problems, smaller battery, less power, just isn't worth the $500 savings. The E-310 is probably the way to go in my opinion.
👍 Thanx Richard ! ~ 'Addmotor' Is Obviously Much Better Than "Lectric' !
And They Stand Behind Their Product Much More Than "Lectric' Crap Too !
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Your welcome. Glad it was helpful.
Are you going to do an unpacking?
Yes, I will do an unboxing video. Its going to be a few weeks until I get it.
I would love to have something like this only one problem I can't afford it.. Not to mention that it would end up as a five finger discount around here.. Hardcore Truth pretty sad that people are like that.. See I get social security disability myself I would love that.. What i'm looking for is a hybrid of gas and electric.. I need a toe behind pod as well for groceries.. Unfortunately i'm way over in arkansas..
I hve an ebike but the first problem I beleave is tht these companies need to make thm more afordable 2000 dollars 1500 dollars 3000 dollars off the hook prices for the elderly and the blue collar worker.
Agreed. If you look on Alibaba you can find well equipped ebikes and trikes for much less coming direct from the manufacturer. But these companies double the price because of their overhead costs.
My Grandpa wants to know if will do wheelies?
Would be a fun ride if it could.
Cable activated disc brakes?
If manufacturer specify max rider height, that's what the lawyers go by when accidents occur.
Suspension fork weigh more than rigid fork, poor suspension is worse than no suspension, especially when you have to control the trike with the fork.
Overall narrow width reduce stability, combine with poor suspension just spells handling issues.
We don't know until we try it.
Do you have beef with Lectric? I have seen a couple of your videos now that tries to negatively depict the best selling ebike company
When things go right, I let people know. When things go wrong, I let people know. Its called honesty. I don't sugar coat my reviews like many channels.
@@OnlyBobafett Thanks for the support!
That's exactly why your reviews are among the first I view. They are not promotions (as many so-called reviews are). They are honest opinions based on what you know and experience, and you give the reasons why, so I can determine for myself if it's important to me. If you change your mind about something, you say so and tell why. I like that you give consideration to the fact that different people have different needs, and that you take that into consideration during your reviews and test rides. I feel that by the time I buy my e-trike, I'll have a good sense of how well suited that bike is for my needs and my purposes. (I just kind of wish you had a hill to test on, cause in Vermont, hills are a given, and one reason I am buying an e-bike is so I can get out of my little village and into the countryside!) @@EbikeReviews
@@neshobe Thank you again for all the support. I appreciate your feedback. Here's what's most important for hills. Your looking for the Torque rating. A Torque rating of 80nm is about the average. For hills, you would want 90nm or higher. In my Bison pro video I showed how it would not go up my driveway of 3% because the torque was only 65nm. After upgrading the controller, it had 80nm. It went up the driveway. But 80nm is still not enough for steep hils. That is why I suggest you look for 90nm or more.
I just found you yesterday on CZcams. I really appreciate your reviews!! I just watched your review for the add motor 310. The way you went through the website description of the bike step by step helped me a lot. I understand now what each thing means now. I subscribed and will keep watching. Huge thanks
There is a 310 plus for taller people
Thanks! Another viewer alerted me to it. How did you learn about it? There is nothing on the website and when I had talked with the company they didn't mention it.
Lectric already sold 6000+ trikes. Addmotor just a little late to the game. Price point alone makes it an easy choice for the Lectric.
Really should get the actual product you’re reviewing before making any conclusions.
It was just announced yesterday. Give the company a minute to get them shipped. As for an easy choice, yes, its an easy choice for someone on a budget of $1500. But, anyone that has a higher budget, not an easy choice. There are pro's and con's to both.
Have you read the negative reviews of Addmotor?
Yes and I have read negative reviews about all the companies I have researched. None of them are great, but, all we can do is hope for the best.
I brought an addmotor trike for my grandma, can you tell me the negative review? I am also worried about it.
@@alfred3066 I don't have any Addmotor trikes yet, the new E310 hasn't arrived so I don't know how it will perform yet.
To bad no hydraulic brakes I prefer them
So you’ll have to adjust 3 brakes pads
Me too, but if this turns out to be a much better trike I would add hydraulic calipers that are still cable actuated. Very easy to swap out just the calipers.
@@EbikeReviews that’s true
I agree that no hydraulic brakes is a problem, obviously the hydraulic brakes are better, but I think the addmotor etrike is for most of senior folks just getting start with etrike, in this situation, a machanical brake can lower the cost so offer a better price for folks, and it's eaiser to maintain, maybe that's why they use the machanical one.
Buy that one and sell the Lectric once it's working.
Selling the Bison Pro for sure. The Lectric I still have hopes for. I heard back from Addmotor, we worked out a deal so I will be buying it today. Won't get it until September sometime.
SEP delivery date, by that time most of riding season would be done for the year.
@@vfr1vfr2 Only for some. I live in Florida so we ride all year.
@@EbikeReviewsI wonder if it will be easier to put together than the bison pro was
@@jacobschwartz6721 Yes, its 85% assembled like most ebikes. Just install the tire, handlebars, etc.
Add Motor 86 lbs wow no thanks !!!!!