Chemical dipping a Rare 1978 Porsche 930 / 911 Turbo #11 off the assembly line!

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  • čas přidán 6. 01. 2023
  • I had the pleasure of getting this 1978 Porsche 930/911 turbo down to bare metal prior to this high end restoration. This car was number 11 off the assembly line and the first ten were crash test cars. That means this was the first one available to the public for purchase.
    For pricing and scheduling contact- 3schemicalsllc.com
    Company that sent the Porsche- potzingerrewerks.com
    #porsche #cars #911turbo #rustremoval #paintremoval #restoration #classiccars #porsche911 #restore #transformation #beforeandafter #powerwashing #pressurewashing #automotive #germancars

Komentáře • 308

  • @darrenboston342
    @darrenboston342 Před 4 měsíci +1

    That 930 will look killer when it’s done!👊

  • @outofcomms
    @outofcomms Před rokem +64

    I am a commercial media blaster and 90% of the articles I blast are vehicles . I believe I do a pretty good job and give my customers there moneys worth, but dipping though complicated is on another level, well done!

    • @minute_of_dangle
      @minute_of_dangle  Před rokem +10

      Thanks buddy! I appreciate that

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk Před rokem +1

      Trouble about blasting classic vehicles is the collaterals. There's too much good sheet metal being blasted away. Having said that, I've not got anything as rare as this Slant nose, so I'd happily send my cars to you 👍

    • @Fredmullegun
      @Fredmullegun Před rokem +1

      @@thefreedomguyuk acid removes metal. baking soda not really

    • @MadSceintist
      @MadSceintist Před rokem +2

      @@Fredmullegun it doesn't remove metal, it removes oxidized carbon (rust and corrosion), depending on the metal, if left far too long and not neutralized it'll begin to etch good metal. Soda blasting is easiest of the blasting methods on all metals but left untreated will also destroy the materials

    • @Fredmullegun
      @Fredmullegun Před rokem +2

      @@MadSceintist Acid definitely removes metal, you just sort of said that. "If left far too long" It's going to thin all the panels and remove all the oxidation.
      I guess my only issue is panels that have suffered rust damage but are still solid might thin out enough to get pinholes then what do you do?
      It seems to add complications that could be avoided. Seem filler, undercoat, etc is all just gone. To what end?

  • @drubradley8821
    @drubradley8821 Před rokem +1

    In the years of full ground up restorations I have done, the first 5 or 6 units were media blasted, which is fine to do, but, until you experience the chemical strip system, you'll never go back to blasting processes, even with CO2/ice, the chemical stripping process really allows allot of the unknown pains to be seen clearly..
    I may sound a bit mental on my next statement, but, starting out on a chemical stripped unit, even if there is 300 hours of sheet metal fabrication that needs done, from either collision damage or mother Earth trying to reclaim the atoms, chemical stripped units, always feels like you are working with brand new parts, even if there is damage on the unit. It is clean, you can see the nature of the sheet metal and what has been touched after the manufacturing process and how well it was done or not done. So worth it. The price if it is your first time can be a shock to the budget, but once you have it back at your shop and getting a game plan together, it is like opening up a brand new box of LEGO's as compared to the other 300 LEGO sets you already have, the new one just brings good energy and initiative to get started fresh out of the gate. So worth it!

    • @minute_of_dangle
      @minute_of_dangle  Před rokem

      That’s awesome to hear! I really enjoyed reading your comment.

  • @tonybino01
    @tonybino01 Před rokem +1

    Porsche's 911 car body design is so iconic. It's so fun when you get to watch it peeled to bare metal. It's like a brand new canvas and anything is possible. I love your videos because it's so exciting when you pull them up from the dip. It's like the cars are getting reborn. Spraying off the layers feels refreshing. I will not know what I'd do if it's my car being dipped. LoL

  • @race-partners
    @race-partners Před rokem +40

    Porsche has always had great corrosion protection and it really shows here. Those wide fenders were factory additions for the wider 930. It's cool to see that these were imperfect, as you said. So much was done by hand. Nice job Trevor

    • @minute_of_dangle
      @minute_of_dangle  Před rokem

      Thanks buddy!

    • @ostrich67
      @ostrich67 Před rokem +12

      Not always. They were rust buckets until the late 1970s when Porsche finally addressed the problem with galvanized steel and better coatings.

    • @race-partners
      @race-partners Před rokem +3

      @@ostrich67 True that. The ones I've worked on have all been 1990+

    • @user-ob8dh6pp5j
      @user-ob8dh6pp5j Před rokem

      @@minute_of_dangle здравствуйте скажите что это за жидкость и сколько мне нужно денег спасибо 🖐️

    • @ranekauhanen5704
      @ranekauhanen5704 Před rokem

      Its going to be a cool 911 (930) 👍

  • @johnleinen7167
    @johnleinen7167 Před rokem +6

    Porsche hot dipped these cars in zinc before paint process and gave them a 10 year rust warranty , hopefully the acid won't ruin the metal! Really no need to dip these just vapor blast.Yes the rear flares were hand welded on .

    • @v00989
      @v00989 Před rokem +2

      That's interesting, I noticed what looked like galvanizing when the car was being washed. I wondered how the galvanizing holds up to the chemicals.

    • @jc87930
      @jc87930 Před rokem +1

      I didn't want to be the downer but yes 911s were galvanized 76 on and you should never dip then in acid it removes the protection...

    • @jeffduncan9140
      @jeffduncan9140 Před rokem

      Hot dipped or electroplated?

  • @tinman7551
    @tinman7551 Před rokem +10

    I can’t say that I’m enjoying the head mounted GoPro. The footage is quite jerky and I’ve not seen that type of thing before in your wonderful videos. My 💲.01 also what a beautiful Porsche. ❤😊

    • @minute_of_dangle
      @minute_of_dangle  Před rokem +3

      I personally don’t like it either. I’m going to try and figure out a better mounting solution and incorporate both so I can pick and choose

  • @tompetrushka1627
    @tompetrushka1627 Před rokem +24

    Landscape format with a tripod would allow you to use both hands. Turbos had the rear flares welded on by the factory. Later, as they were imported to the US again in 1986 the rear 1/4 panels were one piece. That left side has been spliced to repair it, vertical seem is a repair. Right side is correct. Corrosion directly above the jack point is common as it is a dirt trap that hold moisture. This works it's way through to the rear door jamb area you noted. Messy job, but you got it looking nice. I'm curious as to how well you get it neutralized inside all the pockets, the tunnel, inside the rockers? Have you ever put a tub or chassis through upside down? Note how the factory rolls the new chassis through a primer in an end over end manner to get every surface wetted. Keep up the videos, great job.

    • @minute_of_dangle
      @minute_of_dangle  Před rokem +9

      I appreciate all that info! You know your stuff. We used to have a cage that we would rotate the cars. It soaked up a lot of time. Circulation of the chemical with pumps and air siphoning fixtures saves a little more time and does a good job. When neutralizing it’s completely submerged the same way as in the acid so it gets everywhere that the acid gets. I’m glad you enjoy the videos! Thank you!

    • @michaelsteel7397
      @michaelsteel7397 Před rokem

      Too bad the outcome was cgi

    • @minute_of_dangle
      @minute_of_dangle  Před rokem

      @@michaelsteel7397 🤣🤣🤣 you’re k!ll!ng me man

  • @fenastray
    @fenastray Před rokem +10

    Just wondering what kind of a cleanup is left. It's great to see these older vehicles preserved. My 2 cents... horizontal is best.

  • @chamberizer
    @chamberizer Před rokem +3

    I had a Motorcycle Frame chemical dipped in 1985 to remove the paint.
    I had the two swingarm bushings replaced, the old bushings had been left in when dipped & thus were hard to remove.
    Also, the person that painted the frame said it is better to sand blast.
    Sand blasting gives a better surface for the paint to grip/adhere too.
    I guess if the sheet metal is thin dipping is the way to go?

  • @geneva760
    @geneva760 Před rokem +2

    Early 930 1/4 panels had welded on flares, later 930 1/4 panels were a single piece pressing. It seems strange that the torsion bar plates are still bolted on, hence I assume that the torsion bars are still inside the torsion bar tube, and one of the front bumper deformation tubes is also left bolted on. Always better to unbolt everything. I also assume that the acid dip removes all of the factory galvanizing? There is a heater tube that runs from the engine bay to the front on both sides of a 911/930 and runs through the inside of each sill cavity and where there is a fabric (I cannot recall the exact material) flexible heater pipe, all of these areas need 'special' attention and treatment on any 911/930 that is dipped. It would be interesting to see more of the rinsing process for the cavities and also the thought processes used to treat these after they have all been chemically strippped. I have had many cars dipped over the years, and it is a BIG task to properly treat the shell after dipping (I once paid the price for not doing so with a 911 bonnet). But I also believe that a quality dipping is MUCH better than some of the 'cringe worthy' stuff I see people doing with sand. RINSE - RINSE - RINSE and RINSE again - then dry and treat ALL those internal areas with epoxy and cavity wax is a good suggestion. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.

  • @darylmorse
    @darylmorse Před rokem

    Quite an honor for you to do this car!

  • @chrisplace3024
    @chrisplace3024 Před rokem +1

    I could watch paint coming off all day.

  • @gregorylyon1004
    @gregorylyon1004 Před rokem

    This is a real car. A car worth saving

  • @danieljessop7140
    @danieljessop7140 Před rokem +14

    Are these re dipped in some sort of primer after being cleaned up? This isn't done in NZ due to not being able to reprime all the internal chassis rails etc. They start to rust immediately and within a short time the car has rotted from the inside out making any restoration useless.

    • @mitreswell
      @mitreswell Před rokem +3

      Completely agree with you. I was visiting Hopper Racing Developments at Whenuapai, who restore cars, and asked if they acid dipped the bodies. I was really surprised when they told me they didn't, for the obvious reasons that you have stated. It makes a lot of sense to just stick with media blasting.
      Maybe they could drill holes in the box section places on this Porsche and get the whole thing galvanized?

    • @Dixler683
      @Dixler683 Před rokem +1

      Daniel Jessop….I have had my cars dipped since the 1980’s. You have 2 choices. Spray epoxy sealer in and out OR the bodies are dipped into a tank of “E” coat at the same facility. The black finish is exactly the same as replacement factory panels.

    • @Ada..D
      @Ada..D Před rokem +2

      Your absolutely correct.
      Caustic can also sit between spot welded seems forever, having dissolved some of the original factory seam sealer.
      Having said that, if the bare body is to go though a proper E coat process after, the caustic stage is not so much of an issue because the first stages of pre-treatment for E coating includes dipping in mild caustics and phosphates together with demineralised rinses and demin water bath stages before E'coat is applied.
      ecoat = electrophoretic Paint
      Think I'd probably take the long route. Media blasting and maybe some ice blasting where possible and lots of elbow grease. 👍

    • @Cartiluvsyoutube
      @Cartiluvsyoutube Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you all, I have been curious about how these get protected post dip

  • @Jlb-fz7nl
    @Jlb-fz7nl Před rokem

    Thank you for sharing the videos

  • @robertschmidt6383
    @robertschmidt6383 Před rokem

    The landscape works for me. I can tilt my phone horizontal and get a much bigger picture.

  • @gunnarlandin3258
    @gunnarlandin3258 Před rokem +1

    The rear quarters were added from factory on early 930

  • @adcampo7601
    @adcampo7601 Před rokem +2

    Subscribed! Great work and what a cool car. Acid dipping is almost as satisfying and dry ice detailing.

  • @autofanaticcars
    @autofanaticcars Před rokem +6

    this came out amazing just shows how well these cars were made to look this good all of these years. this will be a killer restoration.

  • @user-ef2mu5yo7z
    @user-ef2mu5yo7z Před rokem +1

    عمل رائع اتمنى لك التوفيق من السعوديه

  • @GwinnettLawns
    @GwinnettLawns Před rokem +4

    Your phone is fine but please hold it sideways. It's much easier to watch in landscape mode and you will probably get a lot more views.

  • @heroicrockstar
    @heroicrockstar Před rokem

    My favourite era of 911 👍

  • @darkhorsegarage9623
    @darkhorsegarage9623 Před rokem

    That rubber coating was put on at the factory and did an amazing job of protecting the metal. I worked on theses cars in the 1990’s. Fun to drive.

  • @billhadden7219
    @billhadden7219 Před rokem

    Reminds me of a car I saw Frequently in Winnipeg around the 1980's

  • @mikelaumaillier9271
    @mikelaumaillier9271 Před rokem +1

    Nice job as usual. I prefer the panoramic to portrait videos. I don't know about GoPro but I have a sports cam that can be linked to my phone or tablet. That way you can take a peek at what your shooting. Best Regards - Mike

  • @capeman10
    @capeman10 Před rokem

    Fascinating and satisfying video to watch. Just subscribed.

  • @madmax2069
    @madmax2069 Před 4 měsíci

    0:14 haha the joker going for another dip.

  • @robertschmidt6383
    @robertschmidt6383 Před rokem

    Wow that Porsche looks brand new. Like it was never painted ever. Good job!

  • @albrown1812
    @albrown1812 Před rokem

    And kudos to how straight this body is!!!!🔥

  • @brentking-gmailking2570
    @brentking-gmailking2570 Před rokem +2

    Great job. I think I would like horizonal view instead of the verticle.

  • @antoniobulanhagui9714

    That's the True Strip to metal!!!😲😲

  • @mauriceclemens3286
    @mauriceclemens3286 Před rokem +2

    Nice job. I wasn’t aware you had to dip 3 times to get it completely stripped.

  • @JoseRodriguez-rl3ch
    @JoseRodriguez-rl3ch Před rokem

    Definitely the head mounted GoPro looked great. I liked that you accelerated the video during pressure washing. Keep doing it that way. 👍

  • @jerryneff6018
    @jerryneff6018 Před rokem +1

    What an awesome car. Great job

  • @aliveRaptor2929
    @aliveRaptor2929 Před rokem

    This was my favourite, GoPro on the head is great

  • @jimtrades3010
    @jimtrades3010 Před rokem

    Very well done great work thanks for the awesome video love to see before and after tyvm friend

  • @there_is_nothing_here
    @there_is_nothing_here Před rokem +16

    Dude out of all those cars that I've seen so far I want to see this one completed. Hope the owner shares some pictures.

    • @mikeyKnows_
      @mikeyKnows_ Před rokem +1

      I wish he would put link s for the car projects

  • @makrele2487
    @makrele2487 Před rokem

    I cant ever forgive you: YOU GRILLED THE JOKER😱🤣

  • @bobberboss
    @bobberboss Před rokem +1

    Its amazing how american cars same age….when they go through this process….are basically rusted out….held by welds and shreds….but look at this European car….same age…and solid as a rock. Gotta love American quality. 😂

  • @segervind
    @segervind Před rokem

    Go Pro!!

  • @richardjimenez7394
    @richardjimenez7394 Před rokem +1

    Cool 😎

  • @rommelsaint8869
    @rommelsaint8869 Před rokem +2

    Show a video how you clean all this mess up in your shop?

  • @tastewithjase
    @tastewithjase Před rokem

    Man this is a beauty

  • @600322
    @600322 Před rokem

    When something is rare or extreme or from us-america I seldom watch it to the end.

  • @reynaldianwar6594
    @reynaldianwar6594 Před rokem

    Very nice perfect chassis

  • @christopherstitt6192
    @christopherstitt6192 Před rokem

    I like the go pro

  • @user-rg7qc5cd3k
    @user-rg7qc5cd3k Před rokem +2

    Интересно на такое бы посмотреть и поучаствовать в процессе😉👍

  • @scottlidstone1902
    @scottlidstone1902 Před rokem +1

    You say rare... but it looks well done to me.

  • @fubartotale3389
    @fubartotale3389 Před rokem +2

    I find these videos oddly satisfying.
    One thing though, now that the paint is off and the car is as welded together, how do you get paint into all those closed off areas?
    In the factory they submerge the body in primer.

  • @mosesslc
    @mosesslc Před rokem

    Hey man the GoPro is great. Anything that makes the vids easier. There is a bit of guess work on its field of view, but you will figure that out I. Love your work👍🏻

  • @gustavogorla8979
    @gustavogorla8979 Před rokem

    Buen trabajo! Desde Bs. As. Argentina

  • @bayarea6464
    @bayarea6464 Před rokem +2

    How do they get primer into all those areas that get stripped from the chemical do u dip into a epoxy tank

  • @pec1739
    @pec1739 Před rokem +1

    ok saw the pricing for the full tub dip $3000 not bad not bad

  • @supertruckertom
    @supertruckertom Před rokem +2

    How many EPA compliance precautions do you have to take?
    Heating bill for the hot tanks?

  • @philippe5706
    @philippe5706 Před 4 měsíci

    Hey thanks for the upload. I was wondering about the doors, do you dip them separately using the same procedure?

  • @judireyes
    @judireyes Před rokem

    Good job!!!!! 🤜🤛

  • @mtcruse
    @mtcruse Před rokem

    Landscape will always be best, regardless of recording method.

  • @daveburke9808
    @daveburke9808 Před rokem

    Good job well done.

  • @user-nt2xg9ot7x
    @user-nt2xg9ot7x Před rokem +2

    ❤️👍

  • @bluebear6570
    @bluebear6570 Před 8 měsíci

    People´s eyes are next to each other and not one above the other. Please film in landscape format!

  • @shanepowers7566
    @shanepowers7566 Před rokem

    Nice job.

  • @Ein2404
    @Ein2404 Před rokem +1

    anyway, you can turn video 90 degrees on edit:)

  • @dra911
    @dra911 Před rokem +1

    There is normally lead in that area of the door sills which looked rotted out. Does the process strip lead filler? I'd very curious to see how they restore this beauty, particularly inside the rockers and kidney bowls... sensitive areas hidden from view.

  • @marklevrett6173
    @marklevrett6173 Před rokem

    I wish you had a location out west! I am in Reno, and I have three cars that are about to begin restoration.

  • @andylopp7825
    @andylopp7825 Před rokem +1

    Is that color 226 Lindgruen? I have a 78 911 SC Targa with that color.

  • @thepaulhenderson
    @thepaulhenderson Před 8 měsíci

    Is there any kind of coating or treatment one can out on the finished product to keep it from re-rusting if you can't get to the body work right away? I mean other than primer or paint, of course.

  • @rustyrobinson8027
    @rustyrobinson8027 Před rokem

    It's trippy when you power wash it's like it's talking to me I'll keep listening and tell you what it's saying

  • @JLMiller410
    @JLMiller410 Před rokem +1

    How long is this process? A few days? hours? About how much $$?

  • @bonzaidirect
    @bonzaidirect Před 9 měsíci

    Is there a wide angle option fit either?
    Can't really get a full effect with the smaller lense

  • @javierfandos2730
    @javierfandos2730 Před 4 měsíci

    I like to watch all the videos on the channel, but this one was not on the list, and I had watched them all, but after watching this one, 11 old videos appeared that were not on the list before, CZcams hides videos from the lists

  • @JohnnyAFG81
    @JohnnyAFG81 Před rokem +2

    Do you drill holes in the most upper parts of the body to get the air out when it dips.

    • @minute_of_dangle
      @minute_of_dangle  Před rokem +1

      We recommend customers do that but we install air siphoning fixtures in places that hold air. We also have pumps that circulate the chemical and that helps a lot

  • @griopfrew3260
    @griopfrew3260 Před rokem

    GoPro or not very very good and very interesting your channel and videos

  • @simmingszycho1980
    @simmingszycho1980 Před 9 měsíci

    I don't think the quarters were replaced. I believe Porsche had the narrow and wide body versions, and just put the quarter on that was needed.

  • @jamespink4202
    @jamespink4202 Před rokem

    Completely see why you would want to take that paint off!!! 😂 Wonder what colour it's going to be next?

  • @oskylauderdale360
    @oskylauderdale360 Před rokem +1

    This is really cool! But wondering what you do with all the water and paint runoff. Is it routed to a containment area where it can be disposed of.

    • @Dixler683
      @Dixler683 Před rokem

      Osky L……from what I understand the contaminated water and paint ( many times it contains heavy metal pigment) are collected and piped directly to ALGORE’s house.

  • @tstahler5420
    @tstahler5420 Před rokem

    Try mounting the camera to the pressure washer, give your videos that FPS feel. Maybe add sounds from Doom. 😂

  • @JerryDey
    @JerryDey Před 5 měsíci

    The bodywork of that car is galvanized. Porsche had an unpainted one on a plinth outside in front of their factory, so I'm not sure what rust you thought you were removing.

  • @hopebear06
    @hopebear06 Před rokem

    Is that powder coated or painted? I remember working for a panel beater in the 80's who did a lot of Porsche work which was all powder coated.

  • @jasonwise8957
    @jasonwise8957 Před rokem +1

    Someone please explain, what is the composition of that alkaline bath? What kind of chemicals?

  • @troydietrich7752
    @troydietrich7752 Před rokem +1

    Like your work ! I have a 4th gen bronco and I'm considering having it dipped after seeing your videos. Where are you located ?

  • @justme8340
    @justme8340 Před rokem

    Either way, GoPro or phone. Your vid’s are always great!

  • @americafirst9699
    @americafirst9699 Před rokem +4

    Nice, very messy with the water jet blasting. Maybe use some make shift walls to contain the mess.

  • @PsGetSid_
    @PsGetSid_ Před 6 měsíci

    how do you protect yourself from steam and chemicals when using high pressure washers

  • @kentanderson8575
    @kentanderson8575 Před 11 měsíci

    A key component of corrosion protection on German cars is a full body dip in a priming paint, followed by seam sealing, and post paint application hot wax is flushed through select cavities. I would be curious to know how the restoration company plans to apply primer to the cavities of the chassis.

  • @davidandrade5359
    @davidandrade5359 Před rokem +1

    GoPro looks good to me

  • @TheCapitalVice
    @TheCapitalVice Před rokem

    Why shoot in verticle? Just edit the video with a phone app and convert it for social media that way. People watching on youtube should get the normal widescreen version of these videos. It's one extra step in editing and you get the best of both.

  • @jdfmfb03
    @jdfmfb03 Před rokem

    Typically how many days does a 2 dip Paint vehicle take to complete the process?

  • @fubartotale3389
    @fubartotale3389 Před rokem +2

    How do you keep it from oxidizing immediately after the neutralizing rinse?

    • @minute_of_dangle
      @minute_of_dangle  Před rokem +5

      The neutralizing alkaline actually inhibits rust even after washing. But the last step we dip the car into a rust inhibitor

  • @miguelcastaneda7257
    @miguelcastaneda7257 Před rokem

    Been eye balling a old slant nose sitting in a front yard wondering if would need this ectent

  • @michaelk2334
    @michaelk2334 Před rokem

    Should use an orbital tip on your power washer.

  • @jefferycaples6041
    @jefferycaples6041 Před rokem +2

    Whats your lead time??

  • @sayyad0111979
    @sayyad0111979 Před rokem +1

    May I asked how much the cost of this process

  • @hermestresmegistrus
    @hermestresmegistrus Před rokem

    Go pro ✨!!! Just record horizontal instead of vertical.

  • @glarrymoreme
    @glarrymoreme Před rokem

    Head cam works

  • @acbdcd1897
    @acbdcd1897 Před rokem

    Лайк. Что за жидкости? Первая вода из Москва реки? , наверное? Вторая посудомой?

  • @7891ph
    @7891ph Před rokem +1

    Looks like we're going to have to wait for them to send him pictures. All their website lists is the services they offer. There's a gallery section, but absolutely nothing in it.

  • @frankdelucey2137
    @frankdelucey2137 Před rokem +1

    What’s the average cost to get this done? And do you do frame stripping/rust removal for the same price?
    (Just looking for ballpark numbers nothing concrete.)

  • @jamesfrost7465
    @jamesfrost7465 Před rokem

    Damn, your overspray is going into your shop!?!? I thought you were preasure washing that in a separated wash bay. Anyway, good job, use both hands man, why make this any harder than it already is. Thanks

  • @vladimirrosa125
    @vladimirrosa125 Před rokem

    I have a doubt: if maker some scratches over the old paint with some abrasive tool like sandpaper before the dip, It becomes easily to the chemical Bath to remove the paint?