The Disturbing History Of Porsche
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Behind the Porsche brand, is a prodigious but dark story… A story of success, tragedy, innovation and destruction.
But to make sense of all this, we have to go back in time to where it all started, 1898. Ferdinand Porsche had just left his job behind to kickstart a new career into the automotive world.
During the next few decades, he created some of the fastest and most groundbreaking vehicle designs for other car manufacturers, turning himself into one of the greatest engineers of all time. And yet, after founding his own car company, this success fell into a darker path when Porsche was embroiled with military projects for the German Regime, which ended himself in prison and eventually costing his life.
So buckle up, we’re going on a journey to uncover the true story of Porsche, and how they managed to transformed itself to one of the greatest luxury car brands, it is today.
00:00 - 01:04 Prologue
01:04 - 03:15 Porsche's Origins
03:15 - 11:20 A New Journey
11:20 - 13:17 The Unusual Friendship
13:17 - 17:08 Porsche In War
17:08 - 22:49 Passing The Torch
22:49 - 26:06 The 911
26:06 - 28:44 The New Challenge
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I noticed 2 mistakes in the video:
Stuttgart is today the capital of the federal state "Baden-Württemberg". But it was NEVER the capital of Germany or the German Empire. The capital since the founding of the German Empire until the split of Germany after the war in East & West was always Berlin. After that Berlin was still the capital of the DDR (East) & the capital of the BRD (West) was Bonn. After the reunification of Germany, Berlin is the capital for all of Germany.
The Beetle officially got the name "Volkswagen" only after WWII. While the idea behind the Beetle was a "Volkswagen" (eng. People's Car) that pretty much everyone should be able to afford, the official name until the end of the war was "KdF-Wagen". Named after the National Socialist Labor Organization " Kraft durch Freude" - KdF (engl. Strength through Joy). Likewise, the original name of Wolfsburg, the city founded to build the "Beetle", was "KdF-Stadt". Only after the war the city got its present name.
Thanks for pointing out these important details, especially about the capital of Germany, huge mistake :0
I’ll be much more careful with these details, really hurts to publish a video with a mistake in it😭
@@BigCompanyYT one mistake is nothing, for this long of a montage. I have watched all of your other videos. I only see perfection!
Another thing is, Porsche-Piëch Family actually controls Volkwagen.
I caught that too also remember the 9-14 model ,in the 70's It was just a volkswagon Beetle chasis and motor w/ sportscar body
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Dark history? After listening to this. More like a history of perseverance and determination. Awesome video.
Von braun moment 😂😂😂😂
Americans like to dramatize and put it in the title. It gets them more clicks.
This is an amazing documentary. You didn't leave anything out. Very well done.
that editing is so satisfying man, keep it up
You mention that Porsche today is owned by the Volkswagen group, but missed to mention that the Porsche family in a very bold offensive took over the whole Volkswagen Group majority.
51% porsche se holdings porsche Piech family run it Ferdinand piech made vw the empire it currently is he was a real car guy,not a bookkeeper,made audi quattro,first 4wd in production vehicles. Vw has 13 brands under its umbrella
Forgot to mention the Porsche family controls VW today...
The Porsche Boxter which began production in 1996 actually saved the company, not the Cayenne. The Cayenne did help in the revitalization of the company, but the Boxster saved them from bankruptcy.
Yeah I was totally expecting the Boxster when they were talking about how the company was failing in the 90s. The Boxster provided a change in direction when they were at the brink, then they really flourished with the Cayenne.
Agreed, and I was surprised it didn't get at least honorable mention! I've had 2 of them and love them, so I am a bit biased.
@Amber Jones You mean "Boxer Engine" not Boxster.
You don't even know what you're talking about, so you should sit this one out.
Im pretty sure the Cayenne did save the company.
You’re missing the years 1989-1996. What saved Porsche was Mercedes-Benz contracting the design, engineering, and manufacturing of the 500E to Porsche. Porsche was on the verge of bankruptcy and Mercedes handed them a lifeline.
What a great documentary! Loved every part about it. Well done! Tanks of all the knowledge I earned from you❤️
Great video, but I noticed you perfectly started to lead into the creation and importance of the Boxster in the 90s, but ended up totally jumping to the 2000s to talk about the Cayenne .... was really surprised that was left out, especially considering how well known the significance was in preventing their bankruptcy.
Awesome video!! A couple things I didn’t see in the video
1. The attempts to make more affordable Porsches to make the company more profitable, 914, 924, 944
2. 928 was initially built to challenge the larger V8 cars built by American companies, and was originally slated to replace the 911, but the popularity was never there
3. The big initial thing to save Porsche in late 90s was the introduction of the more affordable Boxster, which also shared many parts and design with the 996, which was the first water cooled 911 in attempt to “modernize” the car. Also, Porsche trying to go for a more “modern” look Hired 1-2 former Toyota designers for the 996 and Boxster. While their numbers did go up, the design, specifically getting away from the round headlight design, make the 996 the least desirable of any 911 generation. The interior design had very little to be desired as well.
4. The Macan came much much later than the Cheyenne, and Porsche was already at a very profitable position by the time the Macan came around.
5. No mention of Porsche involvement with the Auto Union?
6. Stuttgart wasn’t the capital of German, either before or after the war.
7. Ferdinand was less “friendly” to Hitler than is portrayed in the video.
The funny part is when the Boxster was first sold it was far from affordable as the sky high demand and weak dollar made the hottest selling Porsche still more expensive than just about any non-exotic sports car and definitely the most expensive roadster. Pricing was what was killing the 911 in the 1990s as it was perceived as expensive to maintain and incredibly expensive to repair. I think by late 1998 the last 911 sold less than 1,200 units in all of North America...INSANE.
Porsche dealerships were lonely places that year despite the USA economy being in a full blown bull market. The wealthy were buying 2 of everything except 911's. I read a story that Porsche couldn't even convince the auto show to keep the lights on when they ran late and tried unveil the 1993 Boxster concept car that's how much trouble Porsche was in. But from the moment the cover came off the Boxster it was on the front of every car magazine.
Read the book You Can’t Do Business With The Nazis by a member of the US trade Delegation in the ‘30s. You had to do business the way they said to do it and the cost was high. Dr. P was really only interested in staying in the engineering business.
A lot less freindly... unlike the quandt family....
Ferdinand was VERY friendly to Hilter... backup your statement.
@@jerome_mgozama I don’t know what his frame of mind was. Can you back up your statement?
As Jack Gerwig accurately pointed out, it was the introduction of the Porsche Boxster that pulled Porsche back from the brink of bankruptcy. Its mid-engine design and virtually even front to back weight distribution resulted in one of the most excellent handling sports cars the company has produced. The Boxster has continued to evolve over the intervening 27-years and is a significant performance vehicle in the company's history and present product line. Its omission is an oversight in the otherwise fascinating film that should not be overlooked.
Absolutely 100% correct
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24:27 definitely one of the best looking ones. I see a lot of these here in Germany. Few weeks back there was probably some Porsche meet. I was leaving the pump and seej 3 to 4 of these passing by same models different color. 10 minutes later seen a few more on a traffic light. Definitely one of my favorites by looks only.
Thank you for that absolute nice video, much love❤
After growing up watching Porsche compete in and dominate in motorsport, owning one was a goal I set for myself. As a teen, I owned a couple of Beetles, a '63 and a '66, and my first real job was at a Porsche-Audi dealership as a lot boy.
The 917k, 935, 917/30, later the GT1, and most recently the 919
I've owned my '85 for nearly 30 years and still love it as much as the day I bought it. The Carrera's 3.2 is one of the best engines Porsche ever built. It's nowhere near as quick or fast as a new 911, but it's engaging, analog, visceral, and an absolute joy to drive.
911 S hell yeh.
As soon as I got some money to my name I went car shopping, test drove some GT3s and Turbo S and found them extremely boring and went straight to the Audi dealer and picked up an R8 Spyder. If Porsches were like 80k-100k they would be the best sports car ever but $250,000 for boring 2 door with a spoiler that every dentist has is never gonna happen for me I’m picking proper mid engined supercar for that price every single time.
When I was living in Honolulu, I had a place to live in a boat in the marina at Waikiki. One of my "neighbors" had a brown '79 911 SC Targa and he asked me to drive it at least once a week. The trouble was, I was completely broke most of the time, so I only drove it to the food bank, but had to park a few blocks away so as not to infuriate anyone who just wouldn't understand why a guy with a Porsche 911 was hitting up the food bank. Good times...
Haha what a story Niko! Awesome! Love it! For real? Did you think to drive to a job interview or sales meeting in it? :) I drove a Mitsubishi 4x4 L300 into Byron Bay, Australia, with my last 20$ in my tank. Tried to pay for a loaf of bread with stamps. The line behind me. Not accepted. ... Kind of a low point, that. Could 've chosen to be miserable. Chose to go out and sell a couple of my ambient chill-out CDs instead (Patches of Light, In the Moment - Grand Piano). It's always what you focus on that becomes reality. As the double slit experiment in quantum physics demonstrates. What you see is what you believe. So choose wisely what you believe.
Underrated comment.
We can bend reality if we choose the path.
They did it, Honda, Porsche, Jobs, Musk etc.
So can we.
What saved Porsche was the fact that they - for the first time - used certain parts on several cars, reduzing costs. That's why the 996, the Boxster and the Cayenne share a lot of parts. So it was not the "Boxster saving Porsche" nor was it 996 or Cayenne - it was simply over due costs optimizing while having three absolute hit models in the show rooms.
One, slight error. During the competition for the design of the Tiger 1. Ferdinand Porsche developed what would be known as the VK 45 01(P) which was a turreted heavy tank. It did have the gasoline electric drive train. Porsche was pretty confident in his design so he had a number of hulls put together just in case he won, so he could start mass production easily. however the engine caused him to loose the bid. The hulls, so as not to go to waste were turned into the Ferdinand casemate tank destroyers. Many were destroyed due to the lack of anti infantry armaments, those that weren't destroyed in the eastern front would be retrofitted with a forward facing bow machine gun. These models would be later referred to as the Elephant.
I was just coming here to comment this. Huge oversight in the creators video. Glad you caught it!
There are more than a couple errors and oversights in this mess.
The post-war part of this story is heart-warming. I have never driven a Porsche, but I drove a 1970 Beetle during and after high school
My first car as a teen was a 1960 Beetle. It was that rusty red with a huge sun-roof. Loved that car!! One time I actually buried the needle out on the highway. I think the gauge went to about 70 or 80 mph. I was going downhill with the wind at my back. 😆
Grandpa passed down a 71 porsche 911 that he got from a local racer who crashed and it feels so premium
@@loganm.144 Which version? I mean regardless of the version its a keeper, I am interested because there are two versions of the 71, the 2.2 and the 2.4 The later being the 1st year of production. I love the 60's - 70's porsche body's
I have a Carrera 4 GTS (2nd version), but I would still love to purchase one of the classics. The 356 is one of my dream cars, but the price is still quite high for me at this time
Tre drives a nice super beetle in the movie Boys in the Hood..always wanted one like that but I had a standard Beetle in HS
the car he built for Hitler
The Original Tank that Porsche made for the Tiger Program was called Tiger (P). It failed so bad that the Tiger I was the overall winner. The 90 hulls were originally Tiger P but was then converted to Ferdinands Tank Destroyers. The Codename "Elefant" was another name for Ferdinand due to its installment of small upgrades but many of the German Soldiers didn't know the difference so they still called them Ferdinands.
Loved your video very well prepared.❤🎉
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
I would never consider Porsche as a luxury car brand, they’re definitely known more for being a performance car brand. Honestly I don’t think anyone considers them a luxury brand, they’ve always been known for their racing pedigree
Actually, a rather touching story about a son's love
and devotion to his father.
Grandson also idiot
I was things the same thing shows how strong a father and son relationship can be
It's illegal to say it in the EU.
Family matters.
Lies again? After Dark X Horse Face
Still daily driving a 37 years old Porsche 924S and i really don't feel like getting anything different any time soon.
One of the highlights of my young life was when my friend Johnny took his fathers red Porsche 928 from DC to college park Maryland down interstate 95 . At times we were going 160 mph and it was like time slowed down . We made it in what seemed like 30 minutes . That was fun !
We went to car shows all over with his dads Ac Bristols , Jaguars , and Mg's . He had an MG twin cam that was best in the country at the time . Good times in the early 80s .
Wow,great story!
That was a wonderful documentary! Thank you!
Many things left out of this video or actually incorrect as already mentioned but I'll add the Porsche Boxster is what saved them with volume sales in the 90's, and it doesn't mention the mid 70's when they almost went out of business as well, when the 914 and more so, the 924 saved them again with volume sales of cheaper vehicles.
No video is perfect, but the touching points were there.
The true story of Porsche should have an extensive discussion of Ledvinka and Tatra…
Exactly! Stealing the pre-existing Tatra designs and then getting the lawsuit thrown out when his pal Adolf invaded Czech. And truly glossing over how supportive Ferdinand Porsche truly was of the Nazi party.
I've been fortunate to have owned two. My first was a '63 356, my second an '83 911SC which I had the pleasure of driving from Orlando FL to San Diego Ca then up the PCH and back to Orlando. Not to mention the Tail of the Dragon.
The black DEI stock photo hand shake in a history video about a German engineer in the late 19th century and early 20th is farcicle.
Rather unfortunate that you talked about airplanes he had designed, whilst showing a Spitfire in the background. 😱😱😱
No point in picking a specific example, when it's clear the entire video is mostly movie scenes that have nothing to do with what is being talked about.
I drove a 911 Turbo for a year (2016) great car, had a lot of fun with it.
Pretty much every large company has some skeleton(s) in the closet.
As a car company, I think their product is fantastic.
The Cayman is definitely interesting, I was tempted to buy one of the GT4 versions a few years back but it didn’t have the “daily driver” nature of a 911 Turbo and thus had to pass.
I still think the 911 Turbo is one of the greatest cars ever made, you can grab groceries in it, pickup kids from school, drive in the snow etc.
I thinking of buying one
"Every large company has some skeletons in the closet" nonsense, that is if you're willing to turn a blind eye to Ford and GMC (if I'm not mistaken) suing the US government for damages caused to their manufacturing plants in Europe by allied bombers during WWll. Mfg plants who were supplying the Nazi regime.
Great video man
Truly loved it..💜💜
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
@@aaron62877 Actually i don't know what the actual truth is.
I just liked the video. Still thanks for telling me that truth. 🐮🐮
Welp now i need to buy a Porsche
Great video but you never mentioned Ferdinand Piech who was a brilliant engineer and a very talented company executive who designed many of their cars in the 1970s and 1980s. Mainly the famous 917!
I watched and listened and don't recall any mention of the 917, which won at Le Mans a few times. And they had the 917 Can Am version, too.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
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It's weird to think that if Adolf Hitler was not born we wouldn't've had the 2023 Porsche GT3 RS.
I have a 1995 911 turbo and parked in drunk in one of my fields. Still haven't bothered to go find it. Anyway, my Cherry red 911 targa 4S turbo 2023 finally arrived. Really enjoying it so far. I'll at least keep driving it regularly for 6-8 months before giving it to my nephew or someone that likes a car with over 10,000km
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@@user-jh5uc2ss1l shut up
Its bullshit and tells lies about Hilter. Go do your research on the Jews and you might wake up.
@@user-jh5uc2ss1l true. And this video is full of errors.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
No mention of Tatra, even though there are tons of pictures and footage of them in the video? Whoever edited this knows more than the person who wrote it.
I am really surprised that you did not mention the legendary 917 CAN AM RACER with 60 psi of turbo boost and an incredible 1600 HP. The 917 destroyed every one on the race track in the early 70s. In fact it was about 10 or so years ago that another sports car topped the 917...i think the Veyron maybe. The 917 was an absolute killer race car. At night in 24 hours of lemans it glowed orange from four cooked brakes and one super hot turbo charger.
The 917's 1600 hp (depending on tuning) engine was way ahead of the chassis design. Many drivers were afraid to drive the 917. Fun fact...the 917 tubular 100lb frame was pressurized with a pressure gauge in the drivers view. It pressure dropped, meaning a crack in the frame, the car went into the pits.
Fantastic Documentary! Thank you!
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
Porsche remains my favorite car brand of all time.
I really like the Porsche 911 Turbo.
W
Why?
@@markremy4946 Why what?
@@griffins750 Why like Porsche?
@@markremy4946 Bruh...
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The 911 turbo has to be one of the best looking cars ever built. I’d love a shot of 1. Hopefully one day.👏
That was beautiful. Thank you so much.
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I followed the same path starting today!
The first two stories I also saw too!
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
when you mentioned the motorsports portion of The 911 section most of the wins were done by non-911 cars like the 910, 908, 906, 917, 962, 956, 907, 718, etc.
Actually in the GT classes Porsche has many many wins with 911 variants and when you add up those wins, this is how Porsche is able to claim that they have more motor racing wins than any other car manufacturer. Without those wins, my understanding is that Ferrari is able to claim the most wins (when only counting the very highest levels of endurance racing and F1).
Very interesting video. It saddens me to hear of any company still in business that was involved in any way with the Nazi’s.
Like Ford and General Motors? Destroying German business and industry would have caused a similar situation that the Treaty of Versailles produced. Instead they got denazification and the Marshall plan and we have awesome Porsches.
Many modern German companies were involved with Nazi Germany. Just as many modern Japanese companies had ties to Imperial Japan. These companies became quite important in rebuilding the world after the war.
The companies were restructured by the allies after the war. I believe the people running the companies not the company itself should be held responsible for the actions during the war.
Thanks great video. Well put together. Hard times to. Great times. Quality and craftsmanship Pays off. Later.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video. Very disappointing.
I’m a little disappointed about the fact you didn’t mention the fact the 911 was almost named the 901 but Peugeot that threatened to sue as they owned the rights to 3 digit car names with a 0 in the middle. e.g. 502, 901, etc…
It's not Renault it's Peugeot that had the rights to name their car 901 in Europe
Actually it was Peugeot
@@chefGourdini ah thanks I’ll change it right now
They made a few 901s they are worth alot
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I've owned 4 Porsches in my driving history, including the iconic '59 RSK 718 Spyder. There was no mention in this video about the Spyders doing so well on the track with fantastic handling, reliability, being race cars that could outdrive and outlast larger cars, with larger engines. Race results is probably what brought lots of street drivers into Porsche showrooms.
Such a great car
I'd like to pull my Dodge charger hellcat up beside of one of those POS
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@@hawksrock3024 you don't like the commen section because someone else owned a nice car?
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@@AimForTheBushes908 I don't like the comment section because 90% of you are full of shit.
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"We defeated the wrong enemy."
- Patton
September 1963, The Porsche 901 was displayed at the IAA in Frankfurt . When they went to the Paris Motor Show in 1964, Peugeot objected to the model designation. 82 units of the 901 were produced before the name change.
Keep up the good work! There were definetly some mistakes but those will happen on a smaller and smaller frequency as you do this more and more!!! Very excited to see what you make next! I suggest a video on the life of Ferdinand Piech (Grandson of Ferdinand Porsche), he created some amazing things in his life, the unkillable Mercedes 5-cylinder diesel engines, Audi's Quattro all-wheel drive system, and then was responsible for much of Porsche's le man''s success, and then also possibly VW's diesel gate as a result of his totalitarian-esc leadership...
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Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
Although I'm not really into Porsche cars, this was still a great story, and it was told really well, you kept me listening right to the end, I really appreciate your work on this.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video. Major errors and skips over huge sections of company history.
What about the disturbing history of Mitsubishi, Subaru, Isuzu etc.
It's a shame the co existence of Hans Ledwinka wasn't mentioned as its pivotal to Porsche early years of auto engineering. Ledwinka and Porsche and both designed, air-cooled engines, swing axles, backbone chassis and pear drop aerodynamical shape.
I agree, Ledwinka's ideas were certainly "employed" by Porsche in his designs of the volkswagen and the Auto Union GP cars, great engineer though he was in his own right.
Ledwinka and Porsche were cellmates in jail. This is when Porsche was educated in modern automobile design. Porsche failed miserably creating an armoured tank prototype for Hitler.
Porcher also designed the stuker ju 88 dive bomber as well as a tank nick named the mouse the biggest tank ever
The much maligned 924 is what really helped the company in the bad years. I had a "82 924 , at least 25-30 years ago, and I couldn't keep up with a v6 toyota celica/supra... But I looked damn good losing lol
Excellent tutorial history! Never it be a totally smooth when you add adventure into it! Thank you, J
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
Porsche , the M-B racing engineer, actually first met Hitler (a Mercedes owner) at the Solitude racetrack SW of Stuttgart in 1924 after Hitler was released from prison.
Great video
I’m happy your back 🎉
Fun fact: The Porsche 911 was originally going to be called the 901, but due to copyright from another company, it got renamed as the 911. There are very few 901’s that exist on display. Btw I don't remember which company it was that copyrighted that and also correct me if I am wrong.
Damn! That 356 is just such a gorgeous machine
Excellent video, as a Porsche owner myself, I thoroughly enjoyed every moment. Thanks !
both you and I enjoyed the video, I own a 91 911 carrera4 cabriolet.
@@ralphkrepps1240 77 S wide body for me!
I've got a Porsche outside my front door right now...oh no, wait a minute, its actually a porch!
@@antonioveritas LOL
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
1 mistake I noticed in the video was when you mentioned the Ferdinand Heavy Tank destroyer as a Tiger prototype from Porche. The Tiger tank Porche introduced to H!tler was the Tiger P.
Very nice history. A couple important omissions tho - the 912 which was the 'bridge' model between the 356 & the 911, the Boxster which some would say saved the company, & the 917 in the racing division.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
Thanks. Concise rich history🙏🏼👍🏼
I dont think that its disturbing past for the company but rather an inspiring one, actually id love to buy one now because of its great history 👍 respect to them
except it was not you family, that was used as slave labour, and killed under horrific conditions. how could you ever understand.
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Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
Though you were fairly accurate about Porsche’s early history, it was the Boxster 986 that really saved the company from bankruptcy, the SUV was only part of the solution way after the Boxster’s introduction in early to mid 1990’s auto show.
Indeed. He completely went from 1993 to 2002... as if in 9 years Porsche somehow did nothing and still didn't go bankrupt. The video has more errors in it than factually correct information.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video. The early history section has major omissions.
Amazing video ❤🎉we need more people like that to build old school cars 🚗
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
I own a 2003 Porsche Boxster S. It is an amazing car. I will never be without a Porsche for the rest of my life.
Ernst Heinkel knew Ferdinand Porsche quite well. He remarked his surprise how Porsche's management used to keep Ferdinand busy in the workshop tinkering with engines while they ran his business for him.
Great video. Thank you! Just would have liked to see some credit to the Boxster, which was more important than the SUVs in saving the company from bankruptcy. Also, Berlin (except for 1945-90: Bonn) has been the capital of Germany since 1701 (until 1871 it was formally Prussia). Stuttgart was never the capital.
Nicely done. Love the video.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
This video made me love Porsche even more
14:23
The Ferdinand was the result of the 100 PROTOTYPE Tigers that failed in the contest, but needed SOMETHING done with them.
They WERE NOT the Porche entry into the Tiger contest, and were substantially redesigned and rebuilt to BECOME tank destroyers.
The Elephaunt was a later change to the design to add some anti-infantry protection machine guns - but otherwise was THE SAME vehicle.
Hitler wanted a tank design to work with 8.8 cm flak gun that had started being used to great effect against tanks. Porsche and someone else competed to have their design used by the German army, in which Porsches prototype had an engine fire, among other major mechanical failures that caused it to lose misreably. Porsche had already created I believe 93 of the Porsche Tigers, and turned them into the "Ferdinand/Elephant" which was used on the eastern front. There are stories of Ferdinands failing in battle because of engine failure, including one where a Ferdinand had an engine fire due to trying to get a better position on a hill. Porsche Tigers/Ferdinand's were HATED by the German army.
@@aperson8025 The Ferdinand, later Elefant (same vehicle, but had anti-person machine guns added) had more mobility losses and breakdown losses than combat losses.
It WAS deadly - when it could get a shot off - having been upgraded to the LONG version of the 88 (71 calibre, same as the Tiger II/Kink Tiger, as opposed to the shorter 56 calibre the original Tiger was limited to). This gave it a higher speed shot, and more armor penetration than the Tiger, and is WHY the Germans were quite happy to upgrade to it instead of something "bigger" in the Tiger II (as opposed to the JS/IS the Soviets had started making by the end of the war).
They may have been hated by the Germans - but they also had THE highest kill-loss ratio of the war for any German armored vehicle, at about 10 to 1.
DESPITE the "underpowered" mobility issues and the unreliable badly overloaded transmissions that broke too often, that gun was DEADLY.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 I'm sure kill/loss is higher, but I think is a bit optimistic. We know that its not uncommon for people to inflate numbers, either based on thinking that they hit something or something else, we've seen it with the Americans reporting Tigers and world war II, and with the Russians reporting I forget how many HIMARS in Ukraine, despite only sound about a dozen and a half at first, and probably a lot more instances but those are the first two that come to mind right now. Also, I think that the gun probably might have been better off being used as an AT gun or towed rather than putting it on a stressed out super tractor, but how much do I know. Also kink tiger made me giggle a little at 4AM.
@@aperson8025 Trade off, those things were HARD to kill - even for the SU/ISU-152.
There's reasons more were lost due to their own issues - where a towed anti-tank gun was vulnerable to even infantry once it fired and if it wasn't well camoflaged (sometimes even when it WAS and the infantry got lucky).
Imagine being so far behind the zeitgeist that you find it “disturbing” 😂
That was really, really interesting. Well done! I loved all the details of how Porsche actually designed the Beetle. What I felt was really missing is details on the development of the 928, which I think is a really stunning looking car. In terms of design, I think the 928 is my favorite car of all time.
I was one of the first people to ever drive the 928 right after they arrived from Zuffenhausen. I also remember the fact that i took a hammer and hit it on the back Bumper after which you did not even see a mark on it ! yet teh 924 looked like shit compared to the 28 and is an insult to the Porsche Brand
Concur completely.
A 928 is your favourite car of all time?… Bro you can pick one up for like $2,500 it’s the most regular traffic car ever I think of a Chevy Cavalier as nicer…
Great historical video.. I absolutely love my Cayenne.. 💯
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Your voice is very awesome.
Despite some small errors in the content, an interesting video with some surprises, e.g. the early experiments with electric cars. By the way: Stuttgart was never Germany's capital, but it is the capital of the federal state of Baden-Württemberg.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video. Stealing Tatra's pre-existing designs, glossing over how involved he was in the Nazi party. Very disappointing video.
Wait, you still believe what we were taught about that era is 100% pure truth?
WOW
One day I drove my grade 10 art teacher to McCall Field in Calgary from James Fowler High School, in my Beetle, in like ten minutes and she was used to a 1964 Mercury Parklane. That poor woman just buried her face in her hands and exclaimed: "Oh my God, it's like going 80 mph in a kitchen chair!!!" That was 59 yrs ago and I'm still belly-laughing right now! My mother who knew her just about fell off of her chair when I told her. God bless you Vivian Irene Tubb, RIP! 🤣😘
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Amazing 👏
Oh baby, knowing that the Furrer himself created this masterpiece of an automobile 🚘 makes me want one even more 😍
What a extraordinary story and top notch engineering and innovation how Porsche was created.
Wow! This story humbles me to the core. I knew of Volkswagen and the Porsche brand. I would have bet that the two had no history together. I would have lost. Awesome 😃 👍🏽!
Porsche Holding is the owner of VW
My grandfather worked as vehicle drafter for Porsche from 1935-1944. He was among several who worked personally with Ferdinand Porsche (Porsche’s founder) which helped design the Third Reich’s armored vehicles and tanks, for example the Tiger I, during WW2. When I was young, my grandfather told me he once had met Adolf Hitler when attending a rally celebrating Porsche’s achievement in producing the prototype of the first Tiger tank. He told me that despite his horrific ideals, Hitler was a polite and charming man and that “he valued all the work we had done for the benefit of the Reich.”
I must stress that my grandfather didn’t support Nazi Germany rather was forced to work for it to keep his family afloat.
history so crazy and old recordings so cool
Who knew that motor inside the wheel itself was such an early invention!
The most disturbing thing in this "history" video is the omission of the man who designed the sheet metal from the VW Beetle to the 356, 550, 911, and 904- Erwin Komenda. NOT Ferry. Hired at the outset by Ferdinand, fired in 1962, died in 1964. The classic photo from 1948 (when the first 356 rolled out of the barn in Austria) was eventually cropped to eliminate Komenda from the "history".
Thank you for a nice video!
8:00 Stuttgart is the capital and largest city of Baden-Württemberg, but not the Capital of Germany.
I had a 72" YW beetle in the 70s which I loved!
I'm no Genius.. but I always thought 💭🤔 it was the Porsche Boxer which saved the company in 1996.... 🤷🏾♂️... Introducing a mid engine more affordable sports car.. with the goal of selling 30,000 units to turn a Profit. As in 1989 the sales went from 40,000 units down to 15,000 units.
Boxter
Boxster
@@trance9158 yes, im wrong as well
You are up and coming and are going to be great and the editing in this video was great
Really, I thought the editing was horrible. Every other sentence was splashed across the screen. I looked like a high school project.
Excellent production and props. If only we had shows like this on my tell-lie-vision I could die a happy boomer.😂
Vinyl, this better than TV. If you want to see on your TV, just hit stream to TV as long as your is capable, bam, you are watching TV. 😅
Thankyou for the story
This makes me like porsche even more ngl