Panorama Non-Invasive Prenatal Testing (NIPT) Results Shared & Explained by Genetic Counselor

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  • čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
  • Today Katie shared her non-invasive prenatal testing results that she got back just a couple of weeks ago. NIPT goes by many names including non-invasive prenatal screening (NIPS), cell-free testing, and many different companies offer it. I am going to walk-though my Panorama NIPT results that were done through the lab called Natera. NIPT is a first-trimester screen that can be utilized to determine if your pregnancy is at an increased risk to be affected by a chromosome imbalance such as trisomy 21 and/or microdeletion syndromes.
    Check out Katie Lee's website and fertility/miscarriage related digital downloads: www.katieleecgc.com/shop
    If you would like to check out Natera's Panorama test which is discussed during this video, please visit their website here: www.natera.com/womens-health/...
    I do not work for Natera and the views expressed in this video are my own personal views!
    Your provider might offer a different NIPT test. There are many other reputable offerings. Some are listed below:
    www.integratedgenetics.com/pa...
    www.invitae.com/en/noninvasiv...
    Katie Lee is a certified genetic counselor with over five years of practice in reproductive medicine. She has worked for one of the most well-known IVF clinics in the United States and also for a genetic testing laboratory that offered fertility-related genetic testing. She is currently employed by one of the biggest sperm banks in the US and started this CZcams channel to support people going through fertility treatment and miscarriages. On this channel Katie discusses topics in fertility/preconception genetic counseling and her own personal experience with unexplained recurrent pregnancy loss.
    This content is for educational and informational purposes only. This video is not a substitute for professional medical advice. Please contact your doctor or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding medical advice, your condition or treatment.
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    2:50 My results report
    8:00 Accuracy

Komentáře • 304

  • @courtneymaslak8772
    @courtneymaslak8772 Před 2 lety +14

    This was so helpful going into receiving results! Thank you so much!

  • @urmilabenpatel3046
    @urmilabenpatel3046 Před 3 lety +8

    Thank you so much I just got my NIPT reports today same like yours and filing some relax and still waiting to talk to my gynecologist.

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 lety

      Congratulations on your reassuring results! They helped me feel a little more relaxed, but once the baby started moving I could really start relaxing.

    • @crazythings70
      @crazythings70 Před 3 lety

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage Nassal bone was absent at 13 week then NIPT report is low risk for everything, Do I need to do
      further diagnostic test?

    • @sonaaraqelyan6499
      @sonaaraqelyan6499 Před 2 lety

      Urnilaben Parel, do you have some updates? I did panorama last week, till don’t have results but I wanted to know how accurate was the test?

  • @Toshi122
    @Toshi122 Před 3 lety +18

    Thank you for sharing this! I am counting it as "studying" since NIPT and other prenatal genetic testing is on my test next week :)

  • @celial09
    @celial09 Před 2 lety +3

    This helps me so much! I have my nipt test Tuesday 3/8 and also with natera

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety +2

      Hey Celia! Congrats on your pregnancy! I hope your appointment tomorrow goes perfectly. Thanks for watching. :)

  • @OneTrueKing23
    @OneTrueKing23 Před měsícem +2

    Hello ma'am, first time dad here. Your video was so great in explaining the results and the test. Thank you and wish you and your kid the best!

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 25 dny +1

      Congratulations and well wishes to you! All well here- she is almost three and thriving! Wishing you and your partner a happy and healthy pregnancy!

    • @OneTrueKing23
      @OneTrueKing23 Před 24 dny

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage It’s healthy boy 👦🏻 😄

  • @balakishanphotos8900
    @balakishanphotos8900 Před 3 lety +3

    Useful information to me...
    Thank you so much sister 😊💐

  • @davinaaponte4526
    @davinaaponte4526 Před 2 lety

    I got my results today via a link in a text message. I had to make an account and it showed this exact test results and I was questioning if it was real and I had to call me doctors office. But I did it anyway and I got the results. My fetal fraction is 8.2% and I didn’t know what that meant and that’s all I was worried about . Thanks for this video

    • @Rgvv85
      @Rgvv85 Před 9 měsíci

      Was your baby born normal ?

  • @shuzellesingh3415
    @shuzellesingh3415 Před 3 lety +3

    Hey. Thanks so much for this informative video. I needed this. *hugs*

  • @ddgardoque
    @ddgardoque Před 3 lety +6

    Thank you for sharing this video! So much useful & helpful information to put me at ease, just a quick question does the father's sperm play a role in this as well? Because on your results you mentioned as you maternal age gets older the higher risk (Although 18 year old pregnant mothers can also have that risk).

  • @erb611
    @erb611 Před 11 měsíci

    Day 2 of waiting for my test results!!

  • @kitkatthekandybar
    @kitkatthekandybar Před 3 lety +3

    Great explanation, Katie!

  • @mariecurie32
    @mariecurie32 Před rokem

    Thank you! That's crazy that for trisomy 13 the ppv is only 38%. They don't explain that before.

  • @atikarahman6739
    @atikarahman6739 Před 2 lety +2

    Hi, greatly described.

  • @aszxdwd
    @aszxdwd Před měsícem

    thank you so much for your explanation.

  • @moonhaux
    @moonhaux Před rokem +1

    It took me almost 3 weeks to get my results back (same company) but I feel so discouraged cause my results came out N/A , test taken at 17 weeks and I was 204lbs and I just found out today 😖 after anxiously waiting , now I'm more anxious

  • @mariakang3586
    @mariakang3586 Před 2 lety +4

    Hi,
    This was very useful to understand the results!
    How were you able to obtain a full report of the results? As my doctor just called me for the results and they couldn’t share it with me cause of HIPAA.
    Thank you!

    • @planetruther
      @planetruther Před 2 lety

      My doctor's office was able to just email me my report (I am in Canada).

  • @yellowberrypie
    @yellowberrypie Před 2 lety

    This was helpful, thanks!

  • @BlueMaroonAnimations
    @BlueMaroonAnimations Před 2 lety +3

    my fetal fraction was 22% at 12 weeks. This seems so high compared to everyone else... hopefully my doctor will be able to give me some information on that at my doctors appointment next week :S

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety +2

      I would definitely encourage you to speak with your doctor about any concerns you have. However, fetal fraction is essentially a quality control measurement. The goal of NIPT is to determine whether there is an increased or decreased risk for a genetic difference in the baby. Those are the key findings/results. It is debated whether the fetal fraction should even be shared on the results report because it is not the goal of the testing. Rather than waiting for your doctor's appointment you could call the lab that ran the testing and ask for a genetic counselor.

    • @shamiabedin3170
      @shamiabedin3170 Před rokem

      Boy or girl

  • @patient3841
    @patient3841 Před 3 lety

    In my country
    Samples Collection : 2021/5/31
    Samples Received : 2021/7/5

  • @valavatsal134
    @valavatsal134 Před 3 lety

    can you please tell in low risk
    How much chances to baby affected with genetical deases

  • @keerthimagazine2935
    @keerthimagazine2935 Před 3 lety

    I got low risk in this test , whether it is a normal or abnormal report?

  • @user-pn5fh5ty1f
    @user-pn5fh5ty1f Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hello, I have an important question, I just took my NIPT test but I don't understand something, the sex of the baby says female but on the second page when I look at the XX and XY chromosomes they give me higher the XY that has to do with sex. Because I saw something similar on your second page where female and male appear. Cam you explain that for me please because Im confused now

  • @jeremyjanis32
    @jeremyjanis32 Před 3 lety +1

    How accurate is a prenatal paternity test from the DDC? You seem like a very smart person to ask, I really have gotten no definitive answers from anyone

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 lety

      I was unable to find an accuracy on the DDC website. I did find a helpful Q&A here: dnacenter.com/frequently-asked-questions/paternity/home-paternity/ When I am thinking about any type of testing I want to go straight to the lab performing the test to ask for their accuracy of that specific test. If I wanted specifics, I would call their customer support number and ask for the accuracy. USA: 1.800.613.5768. Wishing you luck.

  • @kathleensilverman559
    @kathleensilverman559 Před 3 lety +3

    sooooo informative, thank you!

  • @lovenbball22
    @lovenbball22 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for the info! My dr told me about this testing and also about the Horizon advanced carrier screening. Did you do that test as well? I’m debating whether to do them both

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 lety +2

      Hi! I sure did do carrier screening. I happened to work with a different lab for my carrier screening. I have a video coming out on this testing soon. The goal of carrier screening is to see if the egg source and sperm source are carriers of any of the same diseases and would have a risk to have an affected child. The Horizon carrier screening will look for single-gene diseases and is assessing a totally different risk than the NIPT testing! I always think of genetic testing as optional, but if you want to better understand your risk to have a child with any of the disorders included on the panel, I would definitely be drawn for it! Congratulations!

  • @grubershmuel
    @grubershmuel Před 27 dny

    Thank you this was very very helpful ❤

  • @Rosieposie90265
    @Rosieposie90265 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you.

  • @bocao235
    @bocao235 Před 2 lety +3

    Hi thank you for the video. Very helpful! My question is, if parents have diabetes and/or ADHD, can this or other genetic tests screen tendency for the baby to inherit these diseases? Thank you!

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety +2

      This is a great question. NIPT cannot screen for diabetes, ADHD, or any other common multifactorial diseases like cancer risks, risks for psychiatric diagnoses or allergies. All of these conditions are caused by a combination of many genetic factors and environmental triggers or risk factors. There is no test to tell us if a living child/adult will definitely develop these conditions. There is also not a test available to definitively tell us if a pregnancy/fetus will develop these conditions.

  • @ganeshwaydande9121
    @ganeshwaydande9121 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you so much, can you help me to understand my wife's NIPT report?

  • @nakithiajones3808
    @nakithiajones3808 Před rokem

    What is website to that so I can see my results

  • @marieceravolo6517
    @marieceravolo6517 Před 10 měsíci

    Hi, I was wondering if natera screens for monosomy x regardless of gender? Since monosomy x (turners) is found only in girls, I thought it was weird I’ve seen NIPT results with male gender prediction still screen for monosomy x…

  • @hello7198
    @hello7198 Před 2 lety +5

    Hi I have a question would really be grateful with your opinion. What NIPT would you recommend for an obese woman that had low fetal fraction with the panorama test at about 10-11 weeks? I heard Verifi by illumina might be an option. Any advice would be great. Thank you.

    • @DD-qw8zc
      @DD-qw8zc Před 7 měsíci

      Just wait till around 20 weeks

  • @syedtariqueakhter871
    @syedtariqueakhter871 Před 2 měsíci

    Are weight associated with incorrect result. My results are Low risk but weight is incorrect on report instead of 118lbs its showing as 188. Can it change my report negatively

  • @Steph-yi4qc
    @Steph-yi4qc Před 8 měsíci

    I’ve been waiting 5 days so far, I’m 24 weeks pregnant, this is my first pregnancy so I’m very new to how early I could have got this done

    • @Steph-yi4qc
      @Steph-yi4qc Před 8 měsíci

      My anatomy scan came out normal by the way so not so sure ❤

  • @elizabethspring2208
    @elizabethspring2208 Před 2 lety

    Hi! Thanks for your videos. Question: I am doing IVF with PGT-A this spring. Is it necessary to do NIPT if I’ve already done PGT-A and we’ve transferred a normal embryo? I don’t want to know the sex of the baby until delivery.

    • @katieleecgctalksgeneticcou6248
      @katieleecgctalksgeneticcou6248 Před 2 lety +1

      This is a great question and there is not a right or wrong answer. I would definitely recommend discussing with your provider when you get to the point of NIPT (~9 weeks pregnant). NIPT is a lot like PGT-A in that it tests a small sample and is a screening tool that is not 100% accurate. That being said, I find that most patients do proceed with NIPT even after transferring a euploid/normal embryo because there is a chance it could pick up a chromosome imbalance that was missed by PGT-A. In addition, most NIPT labs offer screening for microdeletions (rare syndromes) that are undetectable by PGT-A at this time. If you would like another level of screening for a future pregnancy, NIPT is a non-invasive way to determine whether your pregnancy may be at risk for a chromosome imbalance. If you would want to know that information during pregnancy than it is likely worth considering, but by no means required. I am wishing you the very best and a bountiful IVF cycle this spring!

  • @popaki9484
    @popaki9484 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for sharing all this info with us. Do you recommend a carrier screening for genetic disorders prior to getting pregnant? Are they accurate? Just curious what your thoughts are. Thank you

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem +2

      Hi Kali! Thanks so much for watching. I am so glad you found this video helpful. The carrier screening panels that are offered today can include over 500 genes, which means that almost every person will come back a carrier of at least one disease. Ideally, both the egg and sperm source would complete carrier screening so your clinican can help you compare results for the best interpretation. I definitely suggest that all people planning to conceive in the next couple of years learn about carrier screening and decide whether it would be helpful for their family planning and decision making. I have done it and I do typically suggest at least a small- medium panel to most of my friends. I actually just posted a video on this topic: czcams.com/video/HC5nWq32mt8/video.html

    • @popaki9484
      @popaki9484 Před rokem

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage Hey Katie, thanks for your reply

  • @hdfchggvjh
    @hdfchggvjh Před 29 dny

    So having a t21 sensitivity of 99.5% is low risk, correct? Thank you

  • @ninavorobeva4927
    @ninavorobeva4927 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you! ❤

  • @jessemartinez6899
    @jessemartinez6899 Před 3 lety +3

    My wife’s fetal fraction was 3.5 at 13 weeks. Should we be concerned??
    Results said low risk.

  • @aiyannasmith5363
    @aiyannasmith5363 Před rokem

    Hi, I took my Panorama test and when I got my results it said I was pregnant with TWINS! I was so excited but the gender was missing due to clinical error by doctor. After calling Natera I was told that the Twin conformation was also an error bc they don’t detect number of fetuses. I found that not to be by Natera themselves on there website. Any thoughts?

  • @parentsof2familyforever747

    I took maternity 21 plus

  • @carencielo8835
    @carencielo8835 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so so much! I didn’t understand anything it said besides the gender lol I appreciate it!!

  • @TracingRobots
    @TracingRobots Před 2 lety

    PGT is also screening and a patient must make a medical decision on it.

  • @Faisey648
    @Faisey648 Před 2 lety +1

    I did empower and panorama about a week ago n I’m waiting on results 😭 I’m so impatient

    • @katieleecgctalksgeneticcou6248
      @katieleecgctalksgeneticcou6248 Před 2 lety +2

      I hope you will have good news in hand soon. I would call your OB if it has been a full week. Sometimes OB/GYN offices sit on the results for a few days until they have time to call them out. But as patients, it is totally appropriate to call our doctors office to check the status of these results.

    • @Faisey648
      @Faisey648 Před 2 lety

      @@katieleecgctalksgeneticcou6248 do the results appear once doctor approvals or review it?

    • @Faisey648
      @Faisey648 Před 2 lety

      @@katieleecgctalksgeneticcou6248 also thank you

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety +1

      It could depend on how your clinic has set up their portal with Natera and how they share results with patients. The quickest way to get to the bottom of it is just to call your OB office and ask. I hope you have the results by now!

  • @shafeekmk5057
    @shafeekmk5057 Před rokem +1

    hi, my wife had NT of 4.3 from the 12 week test, and we did NIPT, nipt shown low risk, did we need to do amniocentesis?

  • @yv-li5tp
    @yv-li5tp Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you 😊

  • @AshleeTheArtist
    @AshleeTheArtist Před 3 lety

    she told me you have to click view to view the gender in specific is this true? i want to be suprized

  • @makellodell7238
    @makellodell7238 Před 3 měsíci

    My results came back at 3.6% fetal fraction. I was low risk for everything. Should I be worried?

  • @aparnabarman2652
    @aparnabarman2652 Před 16 dny

    My nipt report all trisomy are low risk but sex chromosome aneuplides now what can I do?

  • @kayatales9366
    @kayatales9366 Před rokem

    Hii mam, i did my nipt and there is y written on the top of the ultrasound what does it mean..pls telle

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem

      I cannot comment since I am not your provider and cannot see the ultrasound. Please just give your OB/GYN office a call and ask them or send them a message in the patient portal. This should be a quick question for them to answer. As a patient you deserve to know what your medical records mean, so don't feel bad calling.

  • @7777catastrophe
    @7777catastrophe Před 3 lety +1

    Hi, enjoyed the info on NIPT. Still not offered by any labs in the UK so samples have to be sent to the states, which presumably adds to the cost - it's not covered by our health service unless deemed high risk. I was wondering if you could do anything on ultrasound abnormality screening for a future video? I had a normal pregnancy with my 3 year old but an umbilical cyst was picked up so had additional screening. Was given the all clear but found at birth that he has complex needs, likely caused by genetic issue. They haven't been able to find the cause, despite extensive testing. We had 2 miscarriages last year and are now pregnant again - have made it to 13wks but finding it really hard. They can't test for my son's condition so will only get an indication at >20wks whether the pregnancy can continue. It's also tricky because I know there's a good chance they might miss the signs a second time. It feels very lonely. Even if we make it through without losing the pregnancy, we know we might not be able to continue with it.

    • @7777catastrophe
      @7777catastrophe Před 2 lety +1

      @Books And Curls hi, we've had 2 fetal medicine scans - one at 20wks and another (that I had to push for) at 28wks. They haven't found any cause for concern but can't guarantee anything. I'm due early November so guess we'll find out soon one way or another!

    • @Nanafan2010
      @Nanafan2010 Před rokem +2

      @@7777catastrophe hope your baby is healthy? Xxx

  • @vivv5402
    @vivv5402 Před 2 lety +5

    I got low risk in this test but high risk for NT Scan measures 2.1mm at 12weeks 6days.
    Tri 21: 1:134
    Tri 18: 1:19616
    Tri 13:

    • @kbm124
      @kbm124 Před 2 lety +1

      Hi there! NIPT TESTS ARE 99 ACCURATE, ANY NEW UPDATES, hope all well.

    • @prabhakar2224
      @prabhakar2224 Před rokem

      Hi ...have your test .. baby was ok .. please reply

    • @prabhakar2224
      @prabhakar2224 Před rokem

      Reply me please

    • @vivv5402
      @vivv5402 Před rokem +3

      @@prabhakar2224 my baby is healthy and very strong. I definitely had a panic attack there when I saw the different results and my doc at the time couldn't explain and he seemed stressed too. So I changed a new doc and midwife and it was the best decision. It was explained to me very clearly why the other test was different. And yeah NIPT test is very accurate. I'm really happy with my little girl, she's growing fast and a very happy baby. I'm so blessed to have her in my life

  • @arushiinfo
    @arushiinfo Před 3 měsíci

    I got my NIPT report yesterday and my feral fraction is 3.04 with low risk now I worried wheather I should consider it as reliable report or not

  • @katekearns1651
    @katekearns1651 Před 3 lety +1

    What should you know if your FF is higher than “normal”? Google isn’t helping me much and I live in a remote area of Alaska.

  • @jaytarango7480
    @jaytarango7480 Před 11 měsíci

    Hi I have a question I did my nipt test at 11 weeks 3 days and it came back that my fetal fraction is 4.4 is that to low? For the weeks I am?

    • @kardes2739
      @kardes2739 Před 3 měsíci

      Did you see the doctor? What did he say? What was the result?

  • @estefaniacontreras1321

    My results say my gestational age is 9 weeks and 5 days but at time of lab draw I was 10 weeks and 5days. Does the test predict your gestational age ? Thank you.

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem +1

      NIPS does not predict your gestational age. Rather, your doctor/RN fills out your gestational age when they fill out the paper work. It sounds like they made a clerical error.

  • @haileyweess7838
    @haileyweess7838 Před 2 lety

    The people didn’t give me a number from the box or anything to get into this app to check but I did ask in person what I was having and the office lady said boy but on my app I have that is a different app from the hospital from where I had a ultrasound to make sure my baby has all its bones and body parts it says female so I am very confused

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Hailey- I would definitely call your OB/GYN and say that you are inquiring about the sex of the baby. Ask them to explain to you what the reason is that you were told different information on the ultrasound compared to the NIPT test.

  • @ashwinikolhe7484
    @ashwinikolhe7484 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey...All three conditions are 'low'..what should be interpreted from this..?

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 lety +2

      That sounds very reassuring! Nobody should ever offer to interpret a report without actually viewing the report. I would recommend identifying a phone number on the report and calling to schedule an appointment with the genetic counselors on staff. They can tell you exactly what "low" means in terms of the conditions they tested for and their accuracy! In the case of my results, a low risk meant a less than 1 in 10,000 chance my pregnancy is affected with Down syndrome, trisomy 18 or trisomy 13.

    • @ashwinikolhe7484
      @ashwinikolhe7484 Před 3 lety +1

      Ok thank you

  • @SRfive2O
    @SRfive2O Před 3 lety

    So I got this test yesterday but I’m very concerned. I was reading over the info card they send home with you and it said to “invert” the blood tubes immediately after filling the tube. I didn’t see any inverting happen. I’m super anxious about this ruining the results and I feel I need to call my doc and nicely demand a redo.

    • @sonaaraqelyan6499
      @sonaaraqelyan6499 Před 2 lety

      Hi.
      Do you have some updates? Now I am waiting my answer too and wanted to know how accurate was the answer.
      Thanks in advance

    • @SRfive2O
      @SRfive2O Před 2 lety +2

      Sure do : ). I raised a fuss with the clinic and they reached out to the genetic Doc who then called me, yes, called me, and assured me my results would not be ruined. The outreach call me really helped calm my nerves.
      Fast Forward: my child is 4 months now, beautiful, healthy, and I am so grateful.
      Hope this helps and congratulations.

    • @sonaaraqelyan6499
      @sonaaraqelyan6499 Před 2 lety

      Thanks for your answer, I don’t know how will be results of my test, but I am so worried about increased NT thickness which doctors saw during my 12 weeks screening . I visited 4 different specialist and listen 4 different sizes from 2.8 to 4.5. I decided to give panorama instant of amniocentesis but now I am thinking is panorama accurate like amniocentesis. Really don’t know what to do.

  • @user-qz4iu4ve6v
    @user-qz4iu4ve6v Před 3 měsíci

    Va rog sa.mi spuneti daca la testul genetic prezenta cromozomului Y reprezinta indubitabil ,la o sarcina gemelara ca cei 2 feti vor fi de sex masculin??

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 měsíci

      V-aș încuraja să discutați cu medicul dumneavoastră sau să vă adresați laboratorului NIPT pentru a pune aceste întrebări. Laboratorul are consilieri genetici și, de obicei, au un serviciu de interpretare.

  • @VikramSingh-dq9ob
    @VikramSingh-dq9ob Před rokem +1

    Hlo mam what is xxy/ xyy NIPT report

  • @jennifermiller1421
    @jennifermiller1421 Před 3 lety +3

    I had my blood drawn 2 weeks ago for this test. But the website says I can't view results until 2 weeks after their lab recieves my sample and my dr releases the results.. it'll be 2 weeks this Friday. But I recieved a card with a code to scan, but the website has never given the option to scan the code either. So maybe im just not doing something right? Idk im just impatient and frustrated I guess. Lol

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 lety

      Definitely call your doctor's office and inquire about the results and also call customer support for the lab and ask if the results have been released to your doctor's office. Sometimes all the portals and codes are such a pain. I feel ya.

  • @t0ne953
    @t0ne953 Před 10 měsíci

    My girlfriend is receiving no result, how is this possible? They said her dna is strong and cannot see the baby’s dna the next step is they are going to try to single out the baby’s dna. Why is this happening?

  • @MsPreshbaby
    @MsPreshbaby Před 3 lety +1

    Shout out to natera

  • @amandaharlan9426
    @amandaharlan9426 Před 5 měsíci

    Help? Test results came back in the section sex of the baby said identical twins sex boy boy the dr said from ultrasound one baby because test said so clear any one have same and found out answers 12 weeks here want to talk to ppl who did the test for why paper work said what it saids p s not for me one of my children test for her baby please any answers possible

  • @bootisankhla2036
    @bootisankhla2036 Před rokem

    Hi can you tell me from which lab you get this test done ?

  • @savannahfotino6489
    @savannahfotino6489 Před 2 lety

    Hi Katie! I just came across this video as I just had my Panorama NIPT test and my results are in. I have one question - I have a sneaky suspicion I could be having twins. When my report came back however it only indicated one, but I didn't go into the blood draw with confirmation of twins. My fetal fraction was 13.6% at 10w3d which seems a little high, and I'm most certain of my dates. Would the panorama test pick up I'm having twins without my disclosing that prior to the draw? Thank you.

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem

      Hi Savannah! Congratulations on your pregnancy! Have you had an ultrasound yet to see how many babies are in there?!? I spoke with a friend at Natera today who explained that Panorama can sometimes see 3 different profiles in people carrying multiples, indicating that there could be unrecognized multiples or something else going on. If the results didn't look like a singleton pregnancy or there was concern for a problem, it would be reported as "high risk" Be sure to speak with your doctor or give Natera a call to get all your questions answered!

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem

      So what's the verdict? Twins or singleton?!?

    • @savannahfotino6489
      @savannahfotino6489 Před rokem +1

      It was a singleton! No idea why my fetal fraction seemed to be high. But all is healthy!

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem

      @@savannahfotino6489 Awesome! So glad to hear that the pregnancy is going well! Makes sense- fetal fraction is not a predictor of multiples. I hope you have a great pregnancy.

  • @ncr4007
    @ncr4007 Před 2 lety +2

    I’m still waiting for my results 4 business days later. How long did it take most people.

  • @accountonlinecontent3474

    Very insightful video, thank you. I m 39 ,170 lbs and In my 10th week pregnancy, got NIPt test and i have got a low risk for all 13,18 and 21 however my fetal fraction is 5.2. I this something i should worry about..pls help me with this question.

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem +1

      Congrats on your pregnancy! I can't provide individualized counseling on results without seeing them BUT if a report says low risk for those conditions that means your pregnancy is at a low risk to be affected with those conditions! It's great news. If the fetal fraction was too low to get accurate results the lab would have informed you/your doctor that the test was inconclusive! As always I recommend discussing your results with your OB who knows you best!

    • @kardes2739
      @kardes2739 Před 3 měsíci

      Did you see the doctor? What did he say? What was the result?

  • @bangaliwala
    @bangaliwala Před 2 lety +1

    Hi, not sure you'll see this or reply. But we did the nipt test and everything came out low risk except for "monosomy x" it said "no result." My fetal fraction was 11% so I can't retake the test. I have to get amnio done and seek genetic counseling. I've just been so worried and stressed thinking about all the different things it could mean :( it seems very rare get such result and now that I have it I can't help but think of the worst and what this could mean for this pregnancy. Any advice?

    • @Katya.s
      @Katya.s Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Afsana - could you update us on what ended up happening?

    • @evitaalvarez3583
      @evitaalvarez3583 Před 9 měsíci

      Any update?

  • @joyshonai
    @joyshonai Před 2 lety

    Thank you🙏🙏

  • @supriyadurgad1222
    @supriyadurgad1222 Před 2 lety

    Hello from India
    I am 13 weeks pregnant now when I went for NT scan there it shows that my Nuchal translucency is increased up to 3.44mm except this everything else is normal, doctors suggested me to go for NIPT test , I gave blood sample yesterday. M very much tensed and depressed, can I get the low risk pregnancy report from NIPT test

  • @lavanyavelu4022
    @lavanyavelu4022 Před 3 lety +2

    Hi, From India
    My anomaly scan report showed baby's nasal bone value as 4.4, doctor have suggested me to go for NIPT after a second round of anomaly to revisit the NB value. Should I go for NIPT? is it reliable?

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 lety +2

      Hi Lavanya- absence of the nasal bone or differences in the nasal bone on early ultrasound could be a soft marker of Down syndrome, meaning the risk may be increased above that of a pregnancy with a "normal" nasal bone. Because NIPT poses no risk to you or the baby, it would definitely be worth considering if you would like to try to clarify your risk to have a baby with a chromosome imbalance. If you want a more accurate test than NIPT, I would ask your provider about CVS or amniocentesis- those are the most accurate prenatal tests. I am sorry about this finding and I hope you are hanging in there.

    • @lavanyavelu4022
      @lavanyavelu4022 Před 3 lety +1

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage Thanks for your response

    • @lavanyavelu4022
      @lavanyavelu4022 Před 3 lety

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage Can you please tell me what are the chances that the NB value increases in next 2 weeks. I have second round of anomaly scan scheduled at my 22nd week.

    • @Hidshavlogs
      @Hidshavlogs Před 2 lety

      @@lavanyavelu4022 am going through same phase absent nasal bone in my scan is evrything fine?how is u r baby now?please let me know very much stressed

    • @lavanyavelu4022
      @lavanyavelu4022 Před 2 lety

      @@Hidshavlogs My baby had less nasal bone value. Baby is born normal only. Absent nasal bone is a serious one to consider, as its a marker for down syndrome. Your doctor may sugges NIPT or Amniocentesis please take those test and based on the results make your decision. Sometimes doctor will ask to wait till next scan to see if nasal bone becomes visible. I Pray all goes well👍Relax

  • @Noyouhangup
    @Noyouhangup Před rokem

    It’s been 20 days since the day I got my blood drawn, I still haven’t got the results to the panorama test.

    • @katieleecgctalksgeneticcou6248
      @katieleecgctalksgeneticcou6248 Před rokem

      The test should be complete by now. To get your results/gather more information I would: 1) Call you OB office and inform them that you need your NIPT results. If they say they don't have them, ask them why and when they. Remind them of the date you had your blood drawn and ask them what lab is being used and what the turn around time is at that lab, 2) Call the customer service line for the lab running your NIPT and ask them if your results are complete, if not, why. Best of luck to you Juilianna.

  • @sabinsharma427
    @sabinsharma427 Před 3 měsíci

    NIPT result low chance what does mean please?

  • @Deeplz
    @Deeplz Před 2 měsíci

    Anyone else with an atypical finding? 😢 I had the info that there are only three possible results:
    1. negative
    2. positive
    3. inconclusive
    I have no. 4, atypical with all results being N/A. 😒

  • @gyanchand5547
    @gyanchand5547 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi, thanks for upload. My wife's NT scan was normal, but her duble marker report shown intermediate risk for T21. We had NIPT at 17th week. is it too late?
    Thanks in advance from India.👍

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety

      I am so sorry, I am not familiar with the different NIPT labs/offerings in India. In the US, NIPT at 17 weeks is still very accurate, but not perfect. I would consider talking to your provider about follow-up testing options to investigate further, if you would like a more definitive result.

    • @gyanchand5547
      @gyanchand5547 Před 2 lety

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage Our doctor suggested us to have NIPT, so it seems ok. thanks for your valuable comments. 👍

    • @janumohammad198
      @janumohammad198 Před rokem

      Hello same iam suffering this problem how is your baby and nipt results how is it

    • @gforgyanu
      @gforgyanu Před rokem

      @@janumohammad198 hi friend. With god's grace We had a healthy baby girl in October month.. and baby is normal and also well active..
      Sorry for the late reply..

    • @kardes2739
      @kardes2739 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@gforgyanuDid you see the doctor? What did he say? What was the result in the fetal fraction?

  • @sravanthialuvala7195
    @sravanthialuvala7195 Před 3 lety

    Hi, my t21 in double marker result is moderate 1:461.Is this range high risk. My gync suggested NIPT test.i am getting tense to awaiting for the results.

    • @crazythings70
      @crazythings70 Před 3 lety

      My NT scan has increased risk 1:241, Now I have to do NIPT, How was your NIPT test result?

    • @reetupal7665
      @reetupal7665 Před 2 lety

      kya raha apke nipt ka

    • @zealoflife3010
      @zealoflife3010 Před 2 lety

      @@crazythings70 is your baby fine

    • @awesomethings7515
      @awesomethings7515 Před 2 lety

      @@zealoflife3010 Baby is all fine, NIPT test was fine then we did needle test that was fine too, That double marker test was wrong because of that we had to gone through this. So initially on 11 week NT scan nasal bone was missing, After that never do double marker test, Just go with NIPT if NIPT comes fine all fine. BUT if you do double marker test that is software based system that will show you 90% wrong report and will make your mind upset like us.

    • @crazythings70
      @crazythings70 Před 2 lety

      @@zealoflife3010 Yes very active

  • @viphalathbernal2471
    @viphalathbernal2471 Před 2 lety +2

    I got mine done and the doctor told me to register online to see a results she said just to put the number on the card cause it links to the kit that she gave me. I tried to do that online when I opened my account but it asked me to put a 13 digits that come with the box . Bad new I don’t have the box they only give me the card

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety +1

      I would guess that those 13 digits from the card are exactly the number you need. They won't expect you to have the actual box because that gets shipped to the lab. I don't work for Natera, but they have great customer support. I would just give them a call- 866-970-3097. Hoping you get some excellent, reassuring results in the next week or so!

    • @viphalathbernal2471
      @viphalathbernal2471 Před 2 lety +1

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage silly me I enrolled to the wrong website that’s why it asked for 13 # .. idk why I registered to netgear instead of natera 😅

  • @ceciliniwayobasaiawmoit8993

    What does 20.85 fetal fraction means??

  • @SaraSa-gm2ig
    @SaraSa-gm2ig Před 2 lety

    Does NIPT determine the babies RH blood type?

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety

      I am not aware of any well-known companies offering NIPT that can determine a baby's blood type. Is there a reason why you want to know baby's blood type? I would express your concerns to your OB. Katie

  • @sumithrasridhar4207
    @sumithrasridhar4207 Před 2 lety +1

    How to predict gender mam.Not mentioned nipt test

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety

      If you don't see information about the X and Y chromosomes on your report then there is a good chance that your doctor didn't order sex chromosome reporting. I would call your doctor's office and the lab that ran the NIPT to ask them.

  • @durgaarunkumar7656
    @durgaarunkumar7656 Před 3 lety +1

    I went for nt scan at 13 weeks nt value is 1.5mm bt in blood test risk for trisomy 21 is very high 1:19. Bt my age is only 25 .I gave sample for nipt last monday.its very terrifying . My nt is normal bt blood reports are abnormal . Is there any positive ray of hope for me for my little one . Its my first pregnancy after 2 yrs of marriage life . So much worried about it. I have another gestation sac and it dissolved . May be tats why my blood reports are abnormal showing high hcgb and low pappa values

  • @oliviadivinity
    @oliviadivinity Před rokem +1

    Pls Help. I have non fraternal twins in separate sacs. I believe the NIPT test is wrong… it has an N/A for gender and fetal fractions and all it says is HIGH RISK triploidy. Did they not check twins? Is it thinking it’s one baby? Thanks.

    • @aiyannasmith5363
      @aiyannasmith5363 Před rokem

      I had the Same sort of problem I was surprised by the test telling me that I am having twins. Now they are saying it was an error bc they made an assumption. Who assumes something like this and does the test NOT PICK THAT UP!

    • @oliviadivinity
      @oliviadivinity Před rokem

      @@aiyannasmith5363 yes ! Turns out the nurse put “don’t know” on the form instead of putting “twins” smh. Lazy nurse.

    • @amandaharlan9426
      @amandaharlan9426 Před 5 měsíci

      Who do u contact number address kinda same problem said identical twins boy but ultra scoundrel show one baby 12:weeks

    • @oliviadivinity
      @oliviadivinity Před 5 měsíci

      @@amandaharlan9426 I contacted the test center (Natera) I think it was called. They cleared it up for me and let me know the nurse filled out the form as don’t know/ singleton instead of twins.

  • @enermaxstephens1051
    @enermaxstephens1051 Před rokem

    But if it can't tell if the "fetus is affected or unaffected" then isn't the test pretty worthless? At least for trisomy 21.

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem

      It definitely depends on your perspective. This is why I think all patients should learn how the testing works BEFORE they decide whether or not to do it. Some patients would like the results of this test to give them some foresight and others would not. It's an individual's choice.

  • @kothanampalliveppanapalli8085

    Alldha best godbless you iam god bless me 🙏🙏🙏

  • @blondiewendy
    @blondiewendy Před 2 lety +4

    I love when there is advancement in science 🧬

  • @ladybug8114
    @ladybug8114 Před 2 lety +1

    Is there any chance they can get the wrong gender I just dont want to buy stuff if they got it wrong

  • @kvngfancy_music
    @kvngfancy_music Před 5 měsíci

    What about genotype

  • @cinnaminstixx
    @cinnaminstixx Před 2 lety

    How did you get your results? Did your doctor give them to you? Did you contact Natera directly? Is there a way to see this report WITHOUT seeing the gender?

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety +1

      Your doctor/clinical team should release them to you directly. Natera will not be able to release them directly to you right away. If you don't want to know the sex, I would just ask my doctor if the results are otherwise normal/low risk. Alternatively, you could ask someone at you OB office to redact the sex or make a photocopy of the results with a post-it over the sex part of the report so you can see the rest of the report. Hoping for great results for you!

    • @cinnaminstixx
      @cinnaminstixx Před 2 lety +2

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage THANKS for advice. I called for a copy, they said I have to fill out paper work for medical release. And yes the gender is up there, so I’ll just get a copy for my records and either have someone else I trust to review it that won’t tell me gender or have them do the idea of blacking it out.

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety +1

      @@cinnaminstixx Yay! Glad you were able to navigate next steps to get your hands on that report.

    • @davinaaponte4526
      @davinaaponte4526 Před 2 lety +1

      I got a text message with a link to view results . I had to set up an account and it will pop up a window that says “view WITH fetal sex results” or “view WITHOUT fetal sex results” I thought getting a text message was odd and I called my doctor to make sure and it is legit.

  • @babyowen7809
    @babyowen7809 Před 3 lety +1

    My NT value is 3.9mm.is risk for down syntom ?
    And what is the maximum rate?

  • @rozelfrancisco6007
    @rozelfrancisco6007 Před 3 lety +1

    hi how about the blood test for down syndrome mine 1.1000? is that possible?please tell me.

  • @mycutesonnivaanarora5445

    My report,all three results are low risk and fetal fraction is 6.5%....what does it mean

  • @alonaabd1152
    @alonaabd1152 Před 2 lety +3

    I got NIPT at 10 weeks and quad at 14 weeks. I wonder if something had changed in between week 10 and week 14?
    (1:168 for DS, 1:68 for Trisomy 18 by quad test.
    NIPT is low risk (1:10,000)
    My doctor says NIPT is much more accurate. However, the quad test was done later.
    Is it a good idea to do one more NIPT?
    My 20 week’s anatomy ultrasound showed everything is WNL.

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety +1

      Congratulations on your pregnancy! I am so happy to hear about your low-risk NIPT results and normal 20-week U/S. If I were in your shoes I would be feeling very reassured despite the quad screen results. It is exceedingly unlikely that a patient with a low risk NIPT and normal 20 week scan would have a baby affected with trisomy 18 or trisomy 21 (Down syndrome). NIPT is a more accurate test than the quad and has a much lower rate of false positives than the quad. If your baby had a chromosome syndrome it will have been there since conception. It is not the case that trisomy 18 or Down syndrome would develop btwn 10 weeks-14 weeks. Quad screen has to be done later because of the fact that it is measuring hormones in the blood and their patterns are most predictable at certain times in pregnancy. NIPT is measuring fetal DNA, which is why it can be done anytime after 9.5 weeks. If a patient wanted further reassurance, they may consider an amniocentesis which is the most accurate test you can have at this point with 99.5% accuracy for picking up chromosome syndromes. Babies with trisomy 21 and trisomy 18 typically have birth defects noted on the 20 week U/S and/or positive NIPT results. I would encourage you to talk with your doctor and genetic counselor about your concerns. But if it were me I would not be repeating NIPT. If I were very anxious and wanted the most certainty I might consider an amnio.

    • @alonaabd1152
      @alonaabd1152 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you so much for your answer! My OBGYN told me I don’t need a genetic counseling, so I decided not argue…

  • @taylormaddie44
    @taylormaddie44 Před 3 lety +1

    I just got my results and i am also having a girl! Do you know the percentage of like how many times it is not correct for the sex?

    • @LilianaGomez-vu9qp
      @LilianaGomez-vu9qp Před 3 lety +1

      Blood tests are more accurate than ultrasound. If you get different results on both, then there is something genetically happening. (Pregnant & just asked at my 20 week apt)

    • @SassyWinterFox
      @SassyWinterFox Před 2 lety

      @@LilianaGomez-vu9qp ultrasound is also likely human error. You need a good potty shot to be sure.

  • @shamiabedin3170
    @shamiabedin3170 Před rokem +2

    My fetal fraction is 12.81% what does it mean girl or boy

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem

      Hello! Fetal fraction has nothing to do with the sex of the baby. I suggest you request a copy of your results from your provider so you can see if the sex chromosomes were studied on your NIPT.

    • @shamiabedin3170
      @shamiabedin3170 Před rokem

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage I m frm India . Sex determination is prohibited . But I very eager to know

  • @afghanistandreamer2426
    @afghanistandreamer2426 Před 3 lety +1

    NIPT does show the gender of baby???

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, NIPT results typically show the sex of the baby. You can always ask that your provider not share that part of the results with you if you prefer to keep it a surprise. They get that request all the time.

  • @jerellebullock8792
    @jerellebullock8792 Před rokem +1

    My question is my wife just had one done and it says consistent with female but y chromosome detection gender determination 98.8 accuracy and had a ultrasound done before our gender Reveal and the lady said it was a boy but my wife wasn't supposed to know not the ladies fault but the gender reveal was girl according to genetic text consistent with female we are going to do another ultrasound but was just curious of knowing what's going info is all over the place if anyone knows my ?? Is just how accurate does this sound btwn ultrasound sound and genetic test

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem

      This can happen, in fact in the world of fertility medicine, it happens all the time. It all depends when that ultrasound was performed. If it was performed early in pregnancy, like before 18 weeks, there is definitely a chance that sex of the pregnancy was incorrect. I would wait for an ultrasound around 20 weeks and my guess will be it will match the NIPT results. If ultrasound continues to show XY (assigned male at birth) and the NIPT is consistent with XX, there are a few things your doctor can look into for your baby/pregnancy. Keep me posted!

    • @jerellebullock8792
      @jerellebullock8792 Před rokem

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage thank u for responding back and yes her ultrasound was done at 12 weeks and genetic test was done at 10 weeks but also y chromosome was detected gender determination 98.8 accuracy nothing had a x on the nipt was just a y but ill definitely keep u posted for sure was just curious to know since your situation was similar to my wife's

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před rokem +1

      @@jerellebullock8792 I think you may be misreading the report! I would ask your doctor to confirm what the sex of the pregnancy is based on your NIPT results!

    • @jerellebullock8792
      @jerellebullock8792 Před rokem

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage definitely so and will confirm was just all over the place with consistent with female nipt and ultrasound was to a boy so just gonna have to do another ultrasound and confirm with doc as well but thank u for responding back greatly appreciate it

  • @adriyolanda6702
    @adriyolanda6702 Před 3 lety +8

    Hi I’m 39, father is 44 and I completely regret having the MaterniT21 test done. I have 2 boys and my results not only came back as a 3rd boy, but positive for Trisomy 21. I’m so depressed. I tried to have some hope but after my dr appt yesterday and being told with a fetal fraction of 4% and a 94% positive result my baby is going to be a Down syndrome baby. I’ve been told that it is most likely accurate.

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 lety +5

      Hi Adri- I am so sorry to hear that you regret having the testing done. Your doctor should have informed you that the whole goal of the test is to look for Down syndrome and other chromosome syndromes. Some people don't want that information and that is okay too. Getting unexpected news, especially news that will affect your family's life and your future son's life is incredibly hard. I hope you are able to seek the support of your loved ones and hang in there. It can also be helpful to read stories of others who have gotten the same news as you.

    • @trulygrateful7217
      @trulygrateful7217 Před 3 lety +1

      Did they suggest any additional testing? I thought it it was protocol to advise patients to get further testing done such as the CVS test or an Amnio. I would definitely ask for a 2nd opinion.

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 lety +3

      @@trulygrateful7217 Absolutely, if you want to clarify the risk with a more accurate test diagnostic testing like amniocentesis or CVS would be the way to go!

    • @adriyolanda6702
      @adriyolanda6702 Před 3 lety +4

      @@trulygrateful7217 hello I went for an amniocentesis this Monday and after 2 attempts of the dr sticking the needle in and poking around she wasn’t able to get any fluid. She said the placenta was anterior and very thick. So now they want me to come back next week and go through it all again. It’s so heartbreaking that I have to go through all of this. I tried to get pregnant, hoping for a girl just to go through hell.

    • @adriyolanda6702
      @adriyolanda6702 Před 3 lety +5

      @@katieleecgctalksmiscarriage I’m going through this alone. My partner is more concerned with how he will tell his mother we are even having another child, especially with this now looming over our heads. He has blamed me for the Down syndrome already. The family and friends I’ve tried to express how I feel too have basically said things like I knew at my age this would happen or I should be happy either way. However, they have healthy children of both genders so I’ve just decided to shut them out.

  • @fonadrenoliver8870
    @fonadrenoliver8870 Před 3 lety +1

    I received my results today and everything came back normal and it says fetal sex consistent of female. What does that mean?

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 lety +2

      Based on what your saying it sounds like the NIPT results were consistent with female (like mine in the video) which would mean the baby is predicted to be a girl! Congratulations on the great results and on your baby girl! Be sure to ask your doctor if you have any questions about your results or are not sure how to interpret them.

    • @nekkosasukesnoreoskywool2126
      @nekkosasukesnoreoskywool2126 Před 3 lety

      How old are you, ma'am?

    • @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage
      @katieleecgctalksmiscarriage  Před 3 lety +1

      @@nekkosasukesnoreoskywool2126 I am 30!