@@shortbread9518 Well, the huge difference is that Isolde greatly helps Noble Knights to a point that Isolde is required unless you want to play only generic Links in NK, making it harder on yourself than necessary.
Almost a year after making this video and only now I realize I said Rudra gains 1700 ATK instead of 700. Mind you, the card would still be shit if it was 1700, but just thought I'd point that out.
Found out how to make it better: - Flip effect screwing to screwing with simply set cards. Rather, their effects would be similar to how Night Beam works - If you keep the Light effects, then there should be a field spell that gives 200-300 atk to all "Ally" monsters and turns all of your opponent's monsters in their hand, field, graveyard, AND DECK into Light monsters. Screws with searching unless it's a Light archetype anyway, and even then it would be screwed against the later changes: Card Changes: - Combine Core Destroyer with Unknown Crusher, and give it 400 more atk. - Searcher should be Stratos's effect, choosing to search for an "Ally" or Destroy a set card your opponent controls on normal or special summon. - Cyclone Creator now returns set cards to the hand equal to the number of "Ally" monsters on your side of the field. - Garadholg would if at all be 1900 atk and gain 600 atk when attacking a Light Monster - Thousand Arms would say Light or facedown monsters and negate the effects of destroyed cards until the end phase. Also, think it would be better as a Rank 4 xyz monster with 2400atk/2000def (may love Bujins a bit too much) - Omni Weapon should have -1 level and be 1800atk/900def or be able to be special summoned while your opponent controls a Light monster - Cosmic Gateway should be a level 4 tuner, and only be if they control a light monster rather than 2 monsters. Stat decrease to 1400/1800 - Thunder Armor should become a level 8 synchro with Piercing, effect negation on attack targets, and is unaffected by previously set cards (flip effects and traps, with a side of Anti-Spell fragrance) - Unlimited should be a level 1 Tuner that discards from your hand to negate the effect of a previously set card (maybe only if you control an "Ally" monster. Also synergizes well with Catastor. - Catastor is definitely fine - Light Gazer is buffed by the field spell, but should also reveal all set cards your opponent controls while they control a Light monster. - Field Marshal should be a level 8 that requires an "Ally" Tuner and 1 or more non-tuner monsters. Its effect should also negate the activation of effects of monsters it targets for attacks. The other cards were fine or redundant (pretty obvious which were which). Tried to do my best to refine the mechanics into having more comeback potential and boss cards. I'm more proud of what I said to do to the Genex monsters because I built way more synergy in them, but these at least works towards a common goal. I think if there were to have spell and trap support they already have Terraforming and Night Beam, but I have a couple ideas: Ally Recruitment - Quickplay Spell: If your opponent controls a Light monster you can add an "Ally" monster from your deck to the hand. If they control 2 or more Light monsters you can then Special Summon it. Flashbang! - Quickplay Spell: All your opponent's monsters are treated as Light monsters until the end of your turn. Draw 1 card. You cannot normal or special summon any monsters the turn you activate this card except "Ally" monsters. Quickplay Spell synergizes with Anti-Spell Fragrance nicely, and these spells are meant to make playing to the requirements of Ally of Justice while not wrecking consistency by having them in the deck. Flashbang, in particular, is a little cloggy but lets you draw a card. The negative is meant to be played around, giving players unexpected scenarios to mess with your opponent. You can also use the card to fake that you might have a couple other cards. Light Mirror - Continous Trap: All Light monsters your opponent controls become 0 atk until the end phase. You can destroy this card to make all your opponent's monsters Light until the end phase (this is a quick effect). Meant to work on Flashbang but not on itself. If it was used on itself, it would miss the timing and the opponent would know not to attack. Would like to know your thoughts. I'm working on archetypes in a game I'm making and have been using this as a way to inspire ideas.
Fun fact: In the anime, this archetype had a good consistency booster in the card Ally of Justice Tractor. It's a Level 1 monster 0 atk and def with an effect where if the opponent controls a light monster, you can tribute it to add 2 Ally of Justice cards from your deck to your hand.
yeah because spending a normal summon on a searcher which is only possible when your opponent controls a very specific attribute monster is consistency boosting. dipshit.
+FudgieDoesGames All of the english power rangers titles are made by this old israeli business man who originally bought rights from sentai force to make mighty morphin power rangers using their combat scene clips lol. His company then partnered with the japanese ones to make future seasons filmed in a way where it's even easier to just film stories completely unrelated to the fighting and weave it in.
Actually, the biggest middle finger for Ally of Justice is the Lost Sanctuary Structure Deck with a few copies of Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror tossed in. Shuts them down completely, also handy for dealing with those pesky Darkworld/Danger! hybrid decks since that trap is basically a fusion of Skill Drain and Soul Drain without the cost but it only works on Dark monsters.
I actually came back from the brink (200 LP) with Decisive Armor in Duel Links. I summoned him against a Blue-eyes player using Evilswarm Mandragora special, Junk Anchor, and Junk Servant all to an empty field to bring him out, with one card remaining in hand. I then discarded said card to activate his 3rd effect and discard 2 of my opponent's 3 cards in hand: BEWD and Dragon Spirit of White to deal 5500 LP and pull a complete reversal OTK. It was awesome...but that was the only time I ever summoned him where it mattered.
Ya its literally just for lore reasons. The X-Sabers, Flamvell, Ice Barrier, and Mist Valley tribes all got together and made the Ally of Justice machines to help them fight the invading Worms
@Trey Gunnar ok first of all no one cares, second of all everyone knows this is just an advertisement, and third of all, if this was real, it would be illegal and also a shitty thing to do
"Staple in Ally of Justice decks" - What, it exist? Also, Unknown Crusher and how it's seemingly related to Yugi's Mammoth can be a reference to how Yugi used it to cripple Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon lol.
Since Catastor is a generic Ally of Justice, it can be played in a Flamvell/Laval/Fire King/etc. Rekindling Synchro Deck alongside Flamvell Magician, and Magician can gain the 400 ATK from its effect without ever actually running an Ally of Justice Deck! :)
You know the best part about Ally of Justice, though? Like, the absolute most hilarious part? The thing that makes their entire archetype even worse that almost no one notices? They *can't summon their best monster if played normally.* I think we can all agree that Catastor is the most consistently good part of the Archetype, yeah? It's nothing nowadays but it was big in the Synchro era and even early in the XYZ era, because it's basically generic. But Allies of Justice... shouldn't be able to make it if they're using their cards as intended. Their lowest level Tuner is Level 3, and their only Level 2 is Unlimiter, which you're meant to be using to sacrifice for its own effect. And Catastor is a Level 5.
The funniest ones are the ones that are literally just a different monster but worse and also an Ally of Justice. Garadholg, for instance, is basically a Mechanicalchaser with 50 less ATK, even against other Light monsters. But hey, it's clearly worth it! Look at all the great support being an Ally gives you! All... three cards. And even better, Allies of Justice actually kinda suck at fighting Worms. They try their best, but King Nebula flattens everything bar their best Synchros and Quarantine (and even then, Worms have plenty of cards that can get over Quarantine). Most of the Allies's cards are based around killing Worms that are already in DEF, but most smart Worm Duelists pack cards that can flip their Worms up. The best chance the Allies have is to bring out Decisive Armor somehow, and with their speed... it's not happening.
wait... decisive armor is lvl 10 generic... nordic alfar (lvl 2) can synchro with 2 nordics in hand to make this!!! They have a decent boss monster now!
Idk who's watching this in 2021 (it popped up in my recommended so I decided to rewatch it) but I love how when we get lore related archetypes now, we get stuff like dogmatika and tri brigade
@@TrueHavoc13 CAn you give a discord and explain me how.For real.I have been playing yu gi oh since 2010 I always wondered how those machine guys are actually a thing
I remember Allies of Justice as Catastor, Cycle Reader, and Core destroyer for their design. but every time I see their other cards, I'm reminded how it seems after making a few actual new artworks Konami must have went: "Eh, paying artists is for wimps. Let's look at what art we have stored up. Use that shit instead."
The art somehow manages to range from "amazing, some of the coolest Yu-Gi-Oh designs ever" (Castator, Core Destroyer) to "some of the worst Yu-Gi-Oh art of all time." It's so weird.
Garadholg and Rudra always confused the hell out of me. Konami, did you forget that you already released stuff such as Gemini Elf way back, which is more anti-LIGHT than Garadholg is? At least Rudra becomes 2600, but still: Frostosaurus, anyone?
lvl5Vaporeon no, i not bashing, or at least i'm not trying to. it's just when i put the words together in my head at first, and the image formed in my head, it just kind of froze for a bit
Its actually funny that of all Duel Terminal archetypes, Ally of Justice were used in the 5Ds anime and even got an anime exclusive monster called Ally of Justice Tractor which was a level 1 Dark Machine with 0 ATK and 0 DEF that tributes itself if the opponent controls a Light monster to add 2 AoJs from Deck to hand. The fact that AoJ got support like that makes me wonder what the deck would have been like if it were among their support. ofc, probably they would have had to change up the effect to maybe a search 1 AoJ but even then, it at least gives fucking Searcher a run for its money.
If they ever decided to make support, they should make it not support Ally of Justice, but Allies, so Genex Allies get some synergy with them. Also because LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
A field spell like: All non "Ally of Justice" monster (s) on the field and hand are treated as Ligth atribute. Once per turn you can normal summon a Ally of Justice from your hand ignoring its summon conditions. BOOM archtype almost fixed
@@Eric-py8yy Okay so knowing how crappy this archetype is now: I’m almost inclined to say you’re right: two things. One: second part is insane. Needs some kind of cost, or some reworking. Even for AoJ, that’s too good. Two: make it generic Ally support so it works with Genex Ally monsters, not just AoJ.
@@rjlarson6744 ok ok your points are valid, This card is treated as a Ally of Justice and a Genex card " Activate this card by discarding 1 "Ally of Justice" monster from your hand to graveyard. All non Ally Of Justice and Genex monster(s) on the field and hand are treated as Ligth monsters. Once per turn you can special summon a Ally of Justice or Genex monster from your hand ignoring its summon conditions. You can only use each effect of Council Of Justice Genexia once per
I used Decisive Armor in the WCT2010 video game as a way to get around all the decks that use Honest... accidentally FTK'd a Blue-Eyes player with its effect.
It's hilarious that Branded-Despia and all their lore associated tools like Dogmatica and Bystials is a better "Anti-Light, Anti-Extra Deck" than Ally's of Justice and Mekklords put tougher.
To be fair to Loreman, a lot of early level 4 tuners had drawbacks. The fact that you could just turn it and another level 4 into Stardust Dragon or something was actually sort of relevant, especially if you summoned both off Rekindling.
Yeah, and Don Zaloog was a staple back in 2002. Just because a card was good back when we were bashing rocks together and painting Mammoth Graveyards on walls doesn't free it from all ridicule.
@@awkwardcultism Just saying that there's a whole bunch of otherwise terrible cards that successfully saw play just because they were tuners with the right set of other traits and that Loreman was positioned to be one of them thanks to an especially overpowered Flamvell-related card.
I remember running Decisive Armor in my old ass zombie deck and I'd summon it against lightsworn and discard all their shit lol Zombie Master revives Zombie Master which then revives Plaguespreader, of course you can use Book of Life/Mezuki and Plague's own effect to cut down the card costs but that was basically how I got to summon that thing...
"if a face up LIGHT attribute monster is face up on the field destroy this card" This effect becomes really good if you have Desperado BD in your hand xD
I did not expect a katawa shoujo reference in my yugioh but I'll take it, they are rare enough as is. For those who haven't played it give it a shot really great introduction to VNS
Yeah, that's one of my favourite things about rewatching rata videos is finding random references I didn't catch before, either cus I didn't pay attention or cus I didn't know the source material yet like with KS
"Cards that counter specific things like types and attributes will inevitably become irrelevant" *Bystials being the most broken cards ever printed, sitting in the corner:*
Fun fact: The in lore reason that these monsters have almost no synergy with each other, is that the tribes who built them (Ice Barrier, Mist Valley, X-Saber, and Flamvell) apparently couldn't agree on what they wanted the Ally of Justice to be like.
I don't belive you didn't see this. This deck is obviusly meant to be used in conjuction with Arcana force. You hope your opponents opens up with a light monster, then summon Chariot, get his tails effect, and BAM! You can summon Gateway just like that!
"well, maybe someone out there won by top decking Cosmic Gateway... maybe..." - Rata Actually, while he didn't top deck, I saw TheDuelLogs win a match against a Lightsworn player via Cosmic Gateway XD enemy had really low hp, summons Judgement Dragon and one of the lightsworns (the one with 1850 ATK and draws you extra cards dependent on the # of lightsworns you mill). He then plays Cosmic Gateway and runs over that smaller Lightsworn for game! See? Cosmic Gateway is Tier 0 comeback card! Bump that grade up to green!!
To say something positive about Garadholg... It might've seen play if it was released during Legend of Blue-Eyes days... providing that your opponent wasn't sporting 3 La Jinn's.
+Dragoniiii12 None of those are truly worthless Toons are playable now with new support Cyberdarks have 5 cards so it's not enough for a video Reptillianes, Steelswarms, and Jurracs can all make some decent plays and were played a bit back then
...Have you actually played Toons? The deck got a major boost and it's still majorly unplayable. I would know, I've both tested the deck and gone up against it multiple times. I also used to mess around with Steelswarms back in the day when I was looking for something non-meta to play. Steelswarms are too slow and reliant on their own archetype, and usually can't gather enough tribute fodder to make their archetype worthwhile. They were/are basically a worse version of Monarchs (even before Monarchs got their new support).
+Dragoniiii12 I actually wanted to do Steelswarms before Worms, but after playtesting them a bit with the Monarch engine, I'd dare to call them playable. Sure they're not gonna do much, but after actually managing to give a Monarch player a hard time with them, I feel like they might not deserve a spot here. ...although, this is strictly speaking with a Monarch tribute engine. Without that, they're much, much slower and harder to do anything with. I'll see about it yet still.
+Dragoniiii12 if they made a spell card that allowed toons to attack the turn they were summoned they would be viable and toon players would shut up. But nope. More 5+ toons you will never summon and have the same effects as their original and more s/t cards that have nothing to do with the deck.
I saw that video and decided to play my old WC 2011 to see if I'm able to build a working deck. Surprisingly, yes. In my first duel I summoned in 7 Turns (remeber it was a slower format) Goyo Guardian, Trishula, Decisive Armor and Catastor. Maybe it was luck, but it was so funny to destroy someone with a slightly improved Ally of Justice Deck. ^^
it's obivous how they can be improved, 1.make their effects counter non-dark type monsters just like caustor does 2. make their card effects powerful but not too powerful(example:If their is a non-dark type monster on the field, discard this card and draw 2 cards)( when this card attacks a face-down monster, flip effects are negated and this card does damage equal half the difference between it's attack and the other monster's defense) 3. Give them trap/spell support 4. New synchros, new tuners, new effect monsters etc
I'd like to say that while your points are great and you definitely know your meta etc, the main draw as you mentioned for this deck was to combat the rise of light based decks. Now you and me both know which are the two most powerful attributes outside of divine, yes light and dark. It's actually true they could be less relevant now and I think you articulated it well, but these guys can still be awful to light based decks still well done for the content and good luck with your channel and making a unique series, wish we had more people doing that :)
Here is my pitch: Ally of Justice Swarmer Lvl 2 Tuner If your opponent controls a light monster, you can special summon this card from your hand. During the main phase 1 of your turn, if you control a dark monster, you can special summon this card from your graveyard. You can only activate each effect of "Ally of Justice Swarmer" once per turn.
I remember I added catastor to my extra deck with superheavy samurais on ygopro and with how good catastor is I thought "hey these allies of justice sound awesome, I want to make a deck with that". It took me a total of one duel to delete the deck
@@fignunu9656 I'me not in the tcg I haven't seen it being played at all to counter drytron d barrier and cycle reader are just more versatile and better
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Catastor must be like that guy who lives alone and is completly ashamed of his family .
Same with Dracossack, Laggia, Isolde, Jurrac Aeolo...
Same with grand mole
@@shortbread9518 isolde?
@@Ghost_094 isolde, two tales of the noble knights
@@shortbread9518 Well, the huge difference is that Isolde greatly helps Noble Knights to a point that Isolde is required unless you want to play only generic Links in NK, making it harder on yourself than necessary.
Ally of justice just needs an archetypal retrain replacing “Light” with “non-dark monsters”
They could errata the entire archetype with that one change.
And Spell an trap support.
Basically rename it to Ally of Catastor
Too bad dark monsters are currently the meta
It would still be absolute dogshit.
Almost a year after making this video and only now I realize I said Rudra gains 1700 ATK instead of 700. Mind you, the card would still be shit if it was 1700, but just thought I'd point that out.
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Found out how to make it better:
- Flip effect screwing to screwing with simply set cards. Rather, their effects would be similar to how Night Beam works
- If you keep the Light effects, then there should be a field spell that gives 200-300 atk to all "Ally" monsters and turns all of your opponent's monsters in their hand, field, graveyard, AND DECK into Light monsters. Screws with searching unless it's a Light archetype anyway, and even then it would be screwed against the later changes:
Card Changes:
- Combine Core Destroyer with Unknown Crusher, and give it 400 more atk.
- Searcher should be Stratos's effect, choosing to search for an "Ally" or Destroy a set card your opponent controls on normal or special summon.
- Cyclone Creator now returns set cards to the hand equal to the number of "Ally" monsters on your side of the field.
- Garadholg would if at all be 1900 atk and gain 600 atk when attacking a Light Monster
- Thousand Arms would say Light or facedown monsters and negate the effects of destroyed cards until the end phase. Also, think it would be better as a Rank 4 xyz monster with 2400atk/2000def (may love Bujins a bit too much)
- Omni Weapon should have -1 level and be 1800atk/900def or be able to be special summoned while your opponent controls a Light monster
- Cosmic Gateway should be a level 4 tuner, and only be if they control a light monster rather than 2 monsters. Stat decrease to 1400/1800
- Thunder Armor should become a level 8 synchro with Piercing, effect negation on attack targets, and is unaffected by previously set cards (flip effects and traps, with a side of Anti-Spell fragrance)
- Unlimited should be a level 1 Tuner that discards from your hand to negate the effect of a previously set card (maybe only if you control an "Ally" monster. Also synergizes well with Catastor.
- Catastor is definitely fine
- Light Gazer is buffed by the field spell, but should also reveal all set cards your opponent controls while they control a Light monster.
- Field Marshal should be a level 8 that requires an "Ally" Tuner and 1 or more non-tuner monsters. Its effect should also negate the activation of effects of monsters it targets for attacks.
The other cards were fine or redundant (pretty obvious which were which). Tried to do my best to refine the mechanics into having more comeback potential and boss cards. I'm more proud of what I said to do to the Genex monsters because I built way more synergy in them, but these at least works towards a common goal. I think if there were to have spell and trap support they already have Terraforming and Night Beam, but I have a couple ideas:
Ally Recruitment - Quickplay Spell: If your opponent controls a Light monster you can add an "Ally" monster from your deck to the hand. If they control 2 or more Light monsters you can then Special Summon it.
Flashbang! - Quickplay Spell: All your opponent's monsters are treated as Light monsters until the end of your turn. Draw 1 card. You cannot normal or special summon any monsters the turn you activate this card except "Ally" monsters.
Quickplay Spell synergizes with Anti-Spell Fragrance nicely, and these spells are meant to make playing to the requirements of Ally of Justice while not wrecking consistency by having them in the deck. Flashbang, in particular, is a little cloggy but lets you draw a card. The negative is meant to be played around, giving players unexpected scenarios to mess with your opponent. You can also use the card to fake that you might have a couple other cards.
Light Mirror - Continous Trap: All Light monsters your opponent controls become 0 atk until the end phase. You can destroy this card to make all your opponent's monsters Light until the end phase (this is a quick effect).
Meant to work on Flashbang but not on itself. If it was used on itself, it would miss the timing and the opponent would know not to attack.
Would like to know your thoughts. I'm working on archetypes in a game I'm making and have been using this as a way to inspire ideas.
Also, must be tired because I forgot about the hand attribute change synergy with Decisive Armor. Not sure if that's broken.
CMEshai so long man 20 word or less
How do you cover every card in 20 words or less?
"if a face up LIGHT attribute monster is face up on the field destroy this card"
"what"
idk why I thought that was so funny
yup
"Maybe out there there is some person who won by topdecking cosmic gateway"
There is, he's called TheDuelLogs
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Wait really XD
@@ragnacrossx4047 yes. Here: czcams.com/video/-vwMuD_NDZo/video.html
do you still have a link?
_edit:_ nvm, here it is:
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Fun fact: In the anime, this archetype had a good consistency booster in the card Ally of Justice Tractor. It's a Level 1 monster 0 atk and def with an effect where if the opponent controls a light monster, you can tribute it to add 2 Ally of Justice cards from your deck to your hand.
yeah because spending a normal summon on a searcher which is only possible when your opponent controls a very specific attribute monster is consistency boosting. dipshit.
So we waste the only Normal Summon in a fast, synchro spam format to get a pseudo pot of greed.
It's not like aoj decks can special summon besides a card that's basically a worse cyber dragon.
Swear to God, Ally of Justice sounds like a subtitle for a Power Rangers show.....
I totally agree
Yuri012 what cringey developor came up with that?
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+FudgieDoesGames All of the english power rangers titles are made by this old israeli business man who originally bought rights from sentai force to make mighty morphin power rangers using their combat scene clips lol. His company then partnered with the japanese ones to make future seasons filmed in a way where it's even easier to just film stories completely unrelated to the fighting and weave it in.
+KingCrowBro Also sounds like a Hero sub archetype.
Ally of justice qUaRinTiNe
"You cannot special summon corona"
"Negate the effects of *virus* cards"
........ take my like and get the fuck out
You know what the biggest middle finger to ally of justice is? Honest.
Honestly, everyone saw that one coming.
To be honest, yeah I agree
Actually, the biggest middle finger for Ally of Justice is the Lost Sanctuary Structure Deck with a few copies of Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror tossed in. Shuts them down completely, also handy for dealing with those pesky Darkworld/Danger! hybrid decks since that trap is basically a fusion of Skill Drain and Soul Drain without the cost but it only works on Dark monsters.
except for Catastor. Catastor doesn't give a shit about how you're honest or not
Ngl, thats a true enemy of this deck
I actually came back from the brink (200 LP) with Decisive Armor in Duel Links. I summoned him against a Blue-eyes player using Evilswarm Mandragora special, Junk Anchor, and Junk Servant all to an empty field to bring him out, with one card remaining in hand. I then discarded said card to activate his 3rd effect and discard 2 of my opponent's 3 cards in hand: BEWD and Dragon Spirit of White to deal 5500 LP and pull a complete reversal OTK. It was awesome...but that was the only time I ever summoned him where it mattered.
i never understood flamvell magicians effect...at this point it might as well be just a normal monster
Because LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
Finds out it was a normal monster when it was first made but a ally of justice fan changed it's effects to help ally of justice beatdown
Ya its literally just for lore reasons. The X-Sabers, Flamvell, Ice Barrier, and Mist Valley tribes all got together and made the Ally of Justice machines to help them fight the invading Worms
Happiny
@Trey Gunnar ok first of all no one cares, second of all everyone knows this is just an advertisement, and third of all, if this was real, it would be illegal and also a shitty thing to do
"Staple in Ally of Justice decks" - What, it exist?
Also, Unknown Crusher and how it's seemingly related to Yugi's Mammoth can be a reference to how Yugi used it to cripple Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon lol.
I am unfortunately an unironic ally of justice fan >__>
It's really unfortunate the ally of Justice are so weak because I like the lore they have and the art is very neat.
I just realized how hilarious Decisive Armor would be against Blue-Eyes decks, considering how much they just love keeping cards in hand.
Make Decisive Armor first turn. Inflict 9K damage. Blue-Eyes player weeps inconsolably.
Quarantine is handy when players rely on white stone to summon blue eyes from the deck in the end phase
Ally of Justice is the perfect example of what happens when top-down card design goes horribly wrong. (Top-down is when the lore comes first)
Since Catastor is a generic Ally of Justice, it can be played in a Flamvell/Laval/Fire King/etc. Rekindling Synchro Deck alongside Flamvell Magician, and Magician can gain the 400 ATK from its effect without ever actually running an Ally of Justice Deck! :)
The "Blind Sucker" joke made me cough my LUNGS out
Whats the joke?
The girl he showed during it is one of several love interests from a visual novel called Katawa Shoujo. She is blind @@ThatOneWeirdFlex
You know the best part about Ally of Justice, though? Like, the absolute most hilarious part? The thing that makes their entire archetype even worse that almost no one notices?
They *can't summon their best monster if played normally.*
I think we can all agree that Catastor is the most consistently good part of the Archetype, yeah? It's nothing nowadays but it was big in the Synchro era and even early in the XYZ era, because it's basically generic. But Allies of Justice... shouldn't be able to make it if they're using their cards as intended. Their lowest level Tuner is Level 3, and their only Level 2 is Unlimiter, which you're meant to be using to sacrifice for its own effect. And Catastor is a Level 5.
The funniest ones are the ones that are literally just a different monster but worse and also an Ally of Justice. Garadholg, for instance, is basically a Mechanicalchaser with 50 less ATK, even against other Light monsters. But hey, it's clearly worth it! Look at all the great support being an Ally gives you! All... three cards.
And even better, Allies of Justice actually kinda suck at fighting Worms. They try their best, but King Nebula flattens everything bar their best Synchros and Quarantine (and even then, Worms have plenty of cards that can get over Quarantine). Most of the Allies's cards are based around killing Worms that are already in DEF, but most smart Worm Duelists pack cards that can flip their Worms up. The best chance the Allies have is to bring out Decisive Armor somehow, and with their speed... it's not happening.
wait... decisive armor is lvl 10 generic... nordic alfar (lvl 2) can synchro with 2 nordics in hand to make this!!! They have a decent boss monster now!
You do realize that Leo and Gullylig are better cards right?
@@JuwanBuchanan it's a joke
Idk who's watching this in 2021 (it popped up in my recommended so I decided to rewatch it) but I love how when we get lore related archetypes now, we get stuff like dogmatika and tri brigade
"Protection, yes I would love some" That came outta nowhere and was really funny thanks man :)
>EVA references
and I thought your vids were good already
>katawa shoujo references
NOW THIS IS PODRACING
This is where the fun begins
Watched all of LotW today, please do more, I do not know what to do with my life now.
You're gonna have to wait for a bit sadly, got stuff to do for college, hoping I get done with it soon ;_;
@TempestYGO Ja :)
@@rank10ygo Just came here to say Legacy of the Worthless Karakuri.They are so forgotten that even you don't remember them :(
@@wildflyandspeedio3033 they are actually somewhat competent
@@TrueHavoc13 CAn you give a discord and explain me how.For real.I have been playing yu gi oh since 2010 I always wondered how those machine guys are actually a thing
Years later, this stuff is still gold. Very nice.
I remember Allies of Justice as Catastor, Cycle Reader, and Core destroyer for their design. but every time I see their other cards, I'm reminded how it seems after making a few actual new artworks Konami must have went:
"Eh, paying artists is for wimps. Let's look at what art we have stored up. Use that shit instead."
The art somehow manages to range from "amazing, some of the coolest Yu-Gi-Oh designs ever" (Castator, Core Destroyer) to "some of the worst Yu-Gi-Oh art of all time." It's so weird.
Garadholg and Rudra always confused the hell out of me. Konami, did you forget that you already released stuff such as Gemini Elf way back, which is more anti-LIGHT than Garadholg is? At least Rudra becomes 2600, but still: Frostosaurus, anyone?
I have a theory that they forgot to put a 0 on their effects. Cypher Soldier was even older and DID gain 2k Atk when up against a Warrior monster...
The Blind sucker one killed me. Oh god.
i don't get it....
7:30
It's A Katawa Shoujo reference. A cripple girl dating sim. And the girl is blind. and she does the SUCC
BlackGetter323
i'm sorry but my brain short circuited when i read cripple girl dating sim. it took a moment to register in my mind. WHAT?
+Ferret Prince
It's actually pretty good for visual novel standards.
lvl5Vaporeon
no, i not bashing, or at least i'm not trying to. it's just when i put the words together in my head at first, and the image formed in my head, it just kind of froze for a bit
That Katawa Shoujo reference with Lily was perfect.
Cosmic Gateway should have been a continuous spell that allows you to special summon an AoJ once per turn with the same condition
Here's the thing...Ally of Justice Searcher's OCG's name is Ally of Justice RESearcher..yeah, blame the TCG naming convention for that.
SMAXZO That would be even worse for the effect.
Its actually funny that of all Duel Terminal archetypes, Ally of Justice were used in the 5Ds anime and even got an anime exclusive monster called Ally of Justice Tractor which was a level 1 Dark Machine with 0 ATK and 0 DEF that tributes itself if the opponent controls a Light monster to add 2 AoJs from Deck to hand. The fact that AoJ got support like that makes me wonder what the deck would have been like if it were among their support. ofc, probably they would have had to change up the effect to maybe a search 1 AoJ but even then, it at least gives fucking Searcher a run for its money.
If they ever decided to make support, they should make it not support Ally of Justice, but Allies, so Genex Allies get some synergy with them. Also because LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
No, just the REEEEEEEEEEEEE part of LOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEE
Honestly at this point they might as well make any new Allie of Justice support for other decks alltogether that's what all the 'good' ones do anyway.
A field spell like: All non "Ally of Justice" monster (s) on the field and hand are treated as Ligth atribute. Once per turn you can normal summon a Ally of Justice from your hand ignoring its summon conditions. BOOM archtype almost fixed
@@Eric-py8yy Okay so knowing how crappy this archetype is now: I’m almost inclined to say you’re right: two things. One: second part is insane. Needs some kind of cost, or some reworking. Even for AoJ, that’s too good. Two: make it generic Ally support so it works with Genex Ally monsters, not just AoJ.
@@rjlarson6744 ok ok your points are valid,
This card is treated as a Ally of Justice and a Genex card
" Activate this card by discarding 1 "Ally of Justice" monster from your hand to graveyard. All non Ally Of Justice and Genex monster(s) on the field and hand are treated as Ligth monsters. Once per turn you can special summon a Ally of Justice or Genex monster from your hand ignoring its summon conditions. You can only use each effect of Council Of Justice Genexia once per
*cue rock song* LOOOOOOOOORE!
Time to write a metal song where the only lyric is "LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE"
"(LORE!) What is it good for, absolutely nothing!"
well, with all the vanillas we're getting in CODE, i think the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRE bit is relevant
Another excellent episode.
I was one of the people that thought Castastor didn't belong to an archetype until I played a random Tag Force game.
I love these so much.
thx senpai < 3
I'd like some pie.
I think some of these stuff are just opinions, but the only good AOJ card would be Decsive Armor is because its a counter Light related deck
And AOJ Castator but nobody use it
+Jonathan Chung cataster was once a staple and desicive armor was a decent tech when bujin and loghtsworn were good
15:15 “an effect so long it would make most Noble Knights cry” haha funny i actually use this in a Noble Knights deck on Duel Links
it’s really easy to make with a basic lvl 1 tuner and two noble knights, as long as one has a equip/ is level 5
I used Decisive Armor in the WCT2010 video game as a way to get around all the decks that use Honest... accidentally FTK'd a Blue-Eyes player with its effect.
Six years have passed and they have not received any support, I think.
7:35 the moment when you start to love Rata much more than you already do because he knows Lily form Katawa Shoujo. Love you man
I found a ripped wet Catastor in my yard at my old house a while back when I barely knew how to play Yugioh.
It's hilarious that Branded-Despia and all their lore associated tools like Dogmatica and Bystials is a better "Anti-Light, Anti-Extra Deck" than Ally's of Justice and Mekklords put tougher.
This archetype might be a threat to Melodious Divas. Keyword: "might"
8:13 hearing the name of this card in 2020 hits different
Oh look a light monster what are you gonna do
Catastor:destroying at the start of the damage step
Good, and you garadholdg
Garadholdg: gain 200 atk
I remember running ally of justice in highschool because everyone started running either Cyber Dagons Bujins and Lightsworn.😅
decisive armor is absolutely hilarious in the blue eyes match, but yeah that's about it
Genex got ally of justice big boy in them as support now . They are the last really big one
To be fair to Loreman, a lot of early level 4 tuners had drawbacks. The fact that you could just turn it and another level 4 into Stardust Dragon or something was actually sort of relevant, especially if you summoned both off Rekindling.
Yeah, and Don Zaloog was a staple back in 2002.
Just because a card was good back when we were bashing rocks together and painting Mammoth Graveyards on walls doesn't free it from all ridicule.
@@awkwardcultism Just saying that there's a whole bunch of otherwise terrible cards that successfully saw play just because they were tuners with the right set of other traits and that Loreman was positioned to be one of them thanks to an especially overpowered Flamvell-related card.
This was from before Rata had even 1000 subscribers. It has 480 thousand views. Rata is a god.
I remember running Decisive Armor in my old ass zombie deck and I'd summon it against lightsworn and discard all their shit lol
Zombie Master revives Zombie Master which then revives Plaguespreader, of course you can use Book of Life/Mezuki and Plague's own effect to cut down the card costs but that was basically how I got to summon that thing...
Nobleman of Crossout is a better Ally of Justice card than 95% of the Ally of Justice cards.
Well Cycle Reader is finally seeing play again for the first time since 2016, so I decided to come back and rewatch this masterpiece
sadly flamvell magician is the best flamvell tuner in the archetype followed by neo flamvell hedgehog
Oh Crap! He Can Do a Flamvell review! That Archetype has Really good cards, but sucks due to the Boss Monsters and some support cards being ass!
"if a face up LIGHT attribute monster is face up on the field destroy this card"
This effect becomes really good if you have Desperado BD in your hand xD
I love the Ally of Justice art. Id love to see them get legacy support
Rudra gains 1700 Atk??????? Must be that broken God card invisible text bullcrap! I love that card
one of my few favorite yugioh series on youtube
the lore gets me every time I watch this video
4 years later and this Is still my favorite rata's video
Ally of Justice can be a potential counter to Blue-Eyes or Lightsworn, but the most impressive thing about them is still the Extra Deck.
these are the best. You need more recognition.
I did not expect a katawa shoujo reference in my yugioh but I'll take it, they are rare enough as is. For those who haven't played it give it a shot really great introduction to VNS
Yeah, that's one of my favourite things about rewatching rata videos is finding random references I didn't catch before, either cus I didn't pay attention or cus I didn't know the source material yet like with KS
"Cards that counter specific things like types and attributes will inevitably become irrelevant"
*Bystials being the most broken cards ever printed, sitting in the corner:*
You said Rudra gains 1700 attack against Light monsters. If only...
The 200 ATTACK is the funniest thing about this episode
Fun fact: The in lore reason that these monsters have almost no synergy with each other, is that the tribes who built them (Ice Barrier, Mist Valley, X-Saber, and Flamvell) apparently couldn't agree on what they wanted the Ally of Justice to be like.
you have to be one of the best speakers ever. major subscribe! love these vids
A monster that leaves on the arrival of a LIGHT monster?!?! Ojama Lime could beat that monster's ass with a flashlight.
I caught that Spongebob anchor arms reference. You can't fool me
3:20 Not to mention: why even play Unknown Crusher when D D Warrior does the same thing, but isn't restricted to specific type of monsters.
I really loooove this video series "LEGACYYY OF THE WORTHLESSSSSS"
I had a Machina deck with AOJ synchros... Loved it and still play it today.
I don't belive you didn't see this. This deck is obviusly meant to be used in conjuction with Arcana force. You hope your opponents opens up with a light monster, then summon Chariot, get his tails effect, and BAM! You can summon Gateway just like that!
Ally of justice with dark world would be lit
"well, maybe someone out there won by top decking Cosmic Gateway... maybe..." - Rata
Actually, while he didn't top deck, I saw TheDuelLogs win a match against a Lightsworn player via Cosmic Gateway XD enemy had really low hp, summons Judgement Dragon and one of the lightsworns (the one with 1850 ATK and draws you extra cards dependent on the # of lightsworns you mill). He then plays Cosmic Gateway and runs over that smaller Lightsworn for game!
See? Cosmic Gateway is Tier 0 comeback card! Bump that grade up to green!!
Is Ally of Justice Quarantine the reason that Worm Solid looks like it's trapped in a geometric shape?
mindblow
But its basicle a EVA Reference. They had an Angel whit this Shape.
7:37 That Lilly Satou though
I really like the duel terminal storyline. It's really cool.
archetype created to kill lights and it can't even do that
best lines ever
Nice vid! I like Clausolas, I use it in Duel Links paired with Ancient Rules.
To say something positive about Garadholg... It might've seen play if it was released during Legend of Blue-Eyes days... providing that your opponent wasn't sporting 3 La Jinn's.
14:09 I will never get bored of the 20000000000000000000000000000000000 ATK boost pronounced by RATA
Hmm...
Maybe a few you could look into in the future:
~Toons
~Jurracs
~Cyberdarks
~Reptiliannes
~Steelswarms
Jurrac/Evelo was a decent deck for a while, and with toons new support, they might get somewhere. The rest are right though
+Dragoniiii12 None of those are truly worthless
Toons are playable now with new support
Cyberdarks have 5 cards so it's not enough for a video
Reptillianes, Steelswarms, and Jurracs can all make some decent plays and were played a bit back then
...Have you actually played Toons? The deck got a major boost and it's still majorly unplayable. I would know, I've both tested the deck and gone up against it multiple times.
I also used to mess around with Steelswarms back in the day when I was looking for something non-meta to play.
Steelswarms are too slow and reliant on their own archetype, and usually can't gather enough tribute fodder to make their archetype worthwhile. They were/are basically a worse version of Monarchs (even before Monarchs got their new support).
+Dragoniiii12 I actually wanted to do Steelswarms before Worms, but after playtesting them a bit with the Monarch engine, I'd dare to call them playable. Sure they're not gonna do much, but after actually managing to give a Monarch player a hard time with them, I feel like they might not deserve a spot here.
...although, this is strictly speaking with a Monarch tribute engine. Without that, they're much, much slower and harder to do anything with. I'll see about it yet still.
+Dragoniiii12 if they made a spell card that allowed toons to attack the turn they were summoned they would be viable and toon players would shut up. But nope. More 5+ toons you will never summon and have the same effects as their original and more s/t cards that have nothing to do with the deck.
Remember if this was real early Yu-Gi-Oh... The attack points on the level 5s would probably be more like 1530 for no reason.
The Lost Horizon - highlander epic moment at 14:12 got me
Ally of justice thousand arms seems like a fun card to boost with equips vs like Blue eyes or Lightsworn maybe. That's about it really
Z AoT it is
They got their gate in MasterDuel!
I saw that video and decided to play my old WC 2011 to see if I'm able to build a working deck.
Surprisingly, yes.
In my first duel I summoned in 7 Turns (remeber it was a slower format) Goyo Guardian, Trishula, Decisive Armor and Catastor.
Maybe it was luck, but it was so funny to destroy someone with a slightly improved Ally of Justice Deck. ^^
Raidraptors would be one of this deck's many nightmares (A giant flock of dark attribute monsters which are special summon killers)
Enough monsters to make a Level 9 generic Synchro that needs 2+ non-Tuners?
FiEld MaRsHaLL
What's a trishula
HyperDelta Gaming Marshall has 200 HUNDRED MORE ATTACK
it's obivous how they can be improved,
1.make their effects counter non-dark type monsters just like caustor does
2. make their card effects powerful but not too powerful(example:If their is a non-dark type monster on the field, discard this card and draw 2 cards)( when this card attacks a face-down monster, flip effects are negated and this card does damage equal half the difference between it's attack and the other monster's defense)
3. Give them trap/spell support
4. New synchros, new tuners, new effect monsters etc
I'd like to say that while your points are great and you definitely know your meta etc, the main draw as you mentioned for this deck was to combat the rise of light based decks. Now you and me both know which are the two most powerful attributes outside of divine, yes light and dark. It's actually true they could be less relevant now and I think you articulated it well, but these guys can still be awful to light based decks still well done for the content and good luck with your channel and making a unique series, wish we had more people doing that :)
What? Light and Darks are the best, period. Divine monsters suck.
You're really enjoyable to watch, and funny.. hope you keep it up!
Here is my pitch:
Ally of Justice Swarmer
Lvl 2 Tuner
If your opponent controls a light monster, you can special summon this card from your hand.
During the main phase 1 of your turn, if you control a dark monster, you can special summon this card from your graveyard.
You can only activate each effect of "Ally of Justice Swarmer" once per turn.
Congratulations, you've made a generic self-reviving tuner that can be abused by every deck except its own. At least it's true to Catastor.
I remember I added catastor to my extra deck with superheavy samurais on ygopro and with how good catastor is I thought "hey these allies of justice sound awesome, I want to make a deck with that". It took me a total of one duel to delete the deck
Ally of Justice Quarantine is a staple card of 2020
It really isn't I haven't seen it being played in many side decks d barrier is better
@@patrikmiles9342 I can't tell if you are joking
@@fignunu9656 I'me not in the tcg I haven't seen it being played at all to counter drytron d barrier and cycle reader are just more versatile and better
@@patrikmiles9342 It's a joke about Quaratining/self-isolation in 2020 due to Coronavirus
@@fignunu9656 Yeah but then you would just say quarantine is a staple of 2020 instead of ally of justice quarantine
It has officially taken me six years to get the “blind sucker” joke. Better late than never. (Lily best girl)
there was a fun vanilla synchro deck with ally mind back in 2013, so not all irrellevant