How Zia-ul-Haq Destroyed Pakistan - Pakistan: Between Mosque and Military by Hussain Haqqani
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- čas přidán 27. 03. 2023
- TPE's Book of the month was Hussain Haqqani's 'Between the Mosque and the Military' - in this video we discuss the first three chapters of the book.
Watch the first episode in this three part series:
• Between the Mosque and...
Watch the third part:
• Nawaz Sharif vs Benazi...
Watch the podcast with Hussain Haqqani:
• The problem with Imran...
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You are on fire 🔥
Sir sir sir ❤
soon pakistan will also be on 🔥
This dictator Gen Zia-ul-Haq is an alumni of Delhi University. But that's where it ends all. Our university has produced world class leaders & scholars.
Zia ul haq killed 25000 pelestine for her benifits 😢😢
@@Realintention1 would you keep your hands on the Quran paak and testify you personally has seen that Zia-ul-haq killed so many people.
This is the first normal Pakistani I ever heard , who is not lieing, truthful , clean talking , salute to you sir
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Most Pakistanis are like me. They're just not brought to the forefront
Indeed. Glad to have come across this channel by happenstance.
@@ThePakistanExperience sorry sir this point no one will agree with you
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Unbelievable. Never thought that any Pakistani would admit the wrongs of its rulers in this way. More power to people like you ☺️
Bro 90% admit this, I can assure you that as a Pakistani
@@sameerhafeez7029what?
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It's irony of our times where comedians are talking sense and polticians are acting as comedians !!! I really wish Pakistanis come out of this situation at the earliest.. lots of love from India!!!
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great comment!
lol at least we criticize our leaders, ure media and people are busy heaping praise for ure dear leader whether he's right or wrong
@@Nat-Contruthfully even my security guard doesnot watch tv news channels in india. we all know they are biased but we accept them because freedom of speech, even if wrong matters for the future.
@@AbhayPeshin u might be different from them but because i understand English I am frequently getting suggestions of indian English news channels like first post, Hindustan times or wion who are looking for the slightest opportunity to demonize pakistan. For eg palki Sharma frequently does reports about Pakistan on the verge of collapse but I know that's not true because I live in Pakistan. we are not a failed state like Afghanistan. But unfortunately when the whole world sees these reports they tend to believe that we are going to dismember soon. Indeed there may be rational voices in India I don't deny it but those voice are mostly overwhelmed by the indian populist right. For eg I really liked how Javed Akhtar despite being an atheist defended Pakistani poet faiz Ahmed faiz against the indian media onslaught but we were caught off guard when he took a 180 degree turn when he came to Pakistan and started bashing Pakistan and joined u're far right bandwagon to please u're establishment.
I had two Pakistani friends growing up in India as a kid in the early 80s - the family I think were close to the Bhuttos & were given some sort of asylum in India once Zia came in......
I won't give more details, but they went back once Zia died & Benazir came back.
We had great fun, they were 2 brothers - one my age, one a year younger.
Murtaza and Shahnawaz? A year apart?
@@faysalmalik2778 no, but I won't reveal their names publicly, I still chat with them from time to time. Both are well, one is in the UK, the other in Karachi.
@@stfunub646ssssshhhh dont reveal more details. Keep quite 🤫
These videos are highly informative and have actually convinced me to read a book after my last book being little red riding hood.
And yes please dive back in to the 90s.
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@@ThePakistanExperience Ye do a video on the 90s
2:11 unfortunately a lot of people still think like that, was having a discussion yesterday with friends and the majority were supporting the idea "Pakistani lazy hn, dusre countries k log behatr hn that how they have progressed soo much" and i was shocked to see how much people still have this mentality
Self hating Pakistanis...m
Very rare to find such talent, the way he handles different subjects with enthusiasm and zeal is worth watching, be blessed
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Love to see these type of brave podcasters. Thanks for educating us
Kudos Shahzad. This is such an eye opener especially for the youth who were fed hatred and lies in the name of history and patriotism. Appreciate your efforts for educating so many of us. Please continue your work. You have somehow convinced me to leave the PTI cult 😂 trying to unlearn and learn many things. Good job!
Welcome to the light!
Welcome to liberal cult of Pakistan 😂
we are not taking history from him. We don’t need his stupid lessons. Pakistan progressed at least in making of Nuclear program during Zia era. If he was not there then dirty Hindus would have surely overrun (or annexed) pakistan
Wow, enlightening and looking forward to your next video. Will be ordering the book soon.
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After being diveded from pakistan. Bangladesh first and foremost act was the liberalisation of its new formed country that lead to their economic and social development.
Commendable work. It is really good that you are attaching references of newspaper etc. with what you are saying. Please keep including references for our further clarity.
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I love this mini series, Shahzad! Looking forward to seeing more of these!
Thank you
this mini series is quite enlightening and eye opening. Well done for precisely summarizing it and opening us up to what actually Zia ul Haqq did with and to Pakistan. please keep up this amazing work and I for one would love to see more of such analyses
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Most of the things u say I have written and talked about for past almost a decade ....
But it's refreshing that a common man in Pakistan (no disrespect for you intended) is also talking about it .
Kudos .
Eye opener video....so informative..... love from 16,year teenager ❤
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You are really amazing with all your podcasts and analysis , which can cause awareness among the people of Pakistan .We need to watch more youngsters such a high caliber like you in our social media.
i met Benazir bhutto in Dubai and don't know about her politics but she was so smart and erudite i did appreciate her as an Indian
Pure analysis of Pakistan 🇵🇰 I truely believe in secularism because because in secular state no one can play religious cards in my opinion which is biggest concern of Pakistan right now..
Alhamdulillah I’m proud muslim but I’m not supposed to impose my own ideas on anyone with power.
He who says that man made laws are better than the laws of one who made everything is better can not be a Muslim be only on the one side if you are not one say it no need to hide it
Have you heard of the term "soft bigotry of low expectations?" If not, Google it. it was coined by Senior Bush in his term. We, in India, know that this was practiced on Muslims during the so-called secular rule by Congress and others. The problem with secularism, is that minorities can be used as a vote bank. The low expectations from Muslims in India, crippled their community for decades. In short, secularism can be used a soft weapon that gives thousand small cuts to the nation, which realizes the bleeding much later. Before 2014 in India, secularism was used as a thrift for vote banks. Now it is used in a very sensible way, despite how it is portrayed by some section of the media.
Pakistan ka masla kya
La ilah illalah
Absolutely,the only way for Pakistan to build a better future for itself is to adopt secularism
@@user-Ex..religiousbhardh Mein jaaye mullah dua karta hu kisi bomb attack Mein maare jao tm
Excellent analysis as always!!
Glad to have people like you in this country ❤
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Thank you so much for the video Shahzad! Living in one of the modern cities of the world, was doing my dishes while listening to this and thinking that the nation owes you. Thanks for educating us man 🙏 More power to you!!
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@@ThePakistanExperience I wasn't expecting a reply. Made my day. Thanks!!
Briiliiant!!!! What a brief but detail video, at the same time!! Great work!!
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Love from Pakistan
These conversations are awesome. Really appreciate the insights. This is a very underrated channel.
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Thanks to your channel. I am from India but i learned alot and understood deep inside Pakistan. We all are same we have same DNA it's just the direction we have to take right in our life
you are a kafir Hindoo
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How are we the same DNA? They are Arabs, Turk mix. We are not.
@@demorvie they are converted all are hindus. But fear of death they all became muslim.
@@navneetgoswami9512 ok, traitors to the tribe then. Either ways, not us.
First pakistani on youtube that have sensibility to talk and have enlightened the ture facts❤❤. My father says same things about zia ul haq. You are the first person after my father which i know is sensible and who exposes the true face of Pakistani politicians and army❤❤. May you live long😊
The only mistake General did is that he didn't make Pakistan more islamised. Hope more Pakistani leaders make pakistan more islamised and radicalised. Only true Islam can destroy Pakistan.
From where can I get this book online.??
Brilliant sum up Shezad. Kudos!
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You are doing a great job, you deserve appreciation for bringing light on this dark part of our history. Also, make a videos on the 90's era
Thank you! Video on 90s is now up
Pakistan is a good example of how much space a country can afford to its army. An army's job is to only protect the country's borders and secure national interest. Anything else is beyond its ambit. When that limit is crossed, the army should be cut to its size.
Thanks for a courageous analysis , keep and good work up .
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Great analysis 👍. Looking forward 90s video as well.
Thank you Shehzad, just want to add one thing that today Imran khan is Zia's version of 2020's and his successor with the same ideology.
He ain't becoming PM again....
Imagining he would even have a successor i is far fetched....
Bilkul Sahi , imran Taliban khan supports religious extremists and terrorists
Shehzad is raa agent working secretly for India doing undercover operations inside naya paxtan.
Love listening toy our podcasts and learning more about Pakistan's history and present.
I hope Pakistan comes stronger out of its present predicaments
Hope from Delhi, India
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Well covered... Informative❤
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Atleast people like you help innocent Pakistani from the lies of Pakistan Studies
You totally forgot to mention 1986’s Parachinar massacre and 1988’s Gilgit massacre, that happened under Zia’s watch .
Please i shall love to hear you regarding decade of 90s. This is some exceptional work you have done. You fan base is getting larger everyday. Hope you will also create video from 2008-2018 as well. Cheers.
Recent history par toh bohat podcasts kiye hain hum nay
@@ThePakistanExperience Sir, i always wonder what went wrong with mindset of military which lost it's trust and credibility AGAIN which they hardly restored in the eyes of the public by giving so many lives during War On Terror days.?? And why army and it's new "CHOOSESN ONE" after 2007 fundamentally failed to understand that Pakistan and its economy cannot afford another phase of political instability..??..which they comprehensively did MashaAllah say like current situation...How our stake holders spectacularly messed up CPEC? These are the type of questions which literally boils my blood honestly. Anyways. Thank you for your kind reply. Regards.
absolutely honest review ,kudos to your courage for this ,
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just amazing! we need some more like of you gentleman ...
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Shehzad bhai , big fan from india ❤. We want these type of podcasts in india too, they are few people in india doing these type of podcasts. I can watch your 2 hr podcasts in one go , especially with Syed. Muzamil. You are calm,creative, analytic and most important thing , you do lot research before podcasts, not like others , asking similar questions to every guest❤
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@@ThePakistanExperience You deserve lot more subscribers, i know you will have them in future, but if you were indian, you will have millions’ subscribers by now, ase we are a lot more people , about 140 crore , and aslo we crave for such intelligent youtuber. ❤
kafir Hindoo
Ravish kumar hi dus pe bhari hain…. Waise bhi bhai India is fundamentally different from its neighbours. So you can’t compare and do like for like shades. Indian Muslims never supported Two nation theory and the people who supported had left India. Our Indian evolution is different since partition.
@@AM-jr9lg 95% moslems voted for the creation of Pakistan. You are such a liar.
Recent time I am finding many logical Pakistani... Hope they can collectively unite the voice and change Pakistan future. We Indians are lucky that we all stress on education...
Would love to hear more, Shehzad. Keep them coming.
My friend this is Rahul from India. I have been watching your videos for the past more than 1 year. I appreciate your criticism of Pakistan, your creative criticism will help Pakistan grow.
Wish we had similar channels in Indian media who can provide the needed criticism... Unfortunately we in India have manufactured criticism encouraged by our ruling party.
Let's be assured, democracy always finds its way, just like evolution. People can deny it but it eventually wins.
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Great show. Keep up the great work. The most important thing to note is that no country will make progress on the basis of religion. Be it Pakistan or any other country. Hope we can all progress on the basis of insaniyat
Aba nikal Jews kitne religious han tu isreal progress nhi kar rha kia
It was a mere facade of religiosity, as shehzad has talked about. Zia was a lowlife, we'll keep cursing him till the day of judgment
I don't believe religion and humanity are mutually exclusive, the state however should be seperate from any religion.
@@beautyshorts4497But do they persecute minorities based on religion? No. Do they make all state policies and decisions based on religion? No. You cannot even spell Israel correctly while they have one of the best scientists and engineers in the world.
Funny that you compared Israel and Pakistan, laughable.
Pakistan needs to be secular if it wants to have a better future
@@nowie4007 Pakistan no need to be secular but need to follow Islamic laws and if it happened then Pakistan will be next asian tiger
very nice program. keep up the good work.
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Very informative video. Good job.
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It is during Ramzan season that Muslim eateries in India make big business and most footfalls. More than 60% are non Muslims who visit these eateries to sample Ramzan special food items. I myself have organised food parties around Ramzan and everyone in the team participates. Big food festivals are organised all around the city. Food business thrives and the most benefited are the Muslim traders who sell food. Ramzan is celebrated all over India by all communities
Is hindu festivals celebrated by the other? No!!
I am from India. I wait eagerly for your podcast routinely. You are one of the sane voices amongst scores of bigots of Pakistan
Secondly I've been watching your Subscribers count which is boosted since is 40 to 50 days❤️❤️, keep the good work up, 10 days may almost 2K subscribers add hwy hain
Inshallah 100k soon ❤❤❤
Ameen 🤲 🤲 🤲
@@ThePakistanExperiencei hope majority should be Pakistani as they need to undo some things done to them by their establishment.
Islamic defination of humanity & mankind..
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Verse 3:110:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4557
In-book reference: Book 65, Hadith 79
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 80
100% agreed w/ ur podcast. Zia's time was th darkest in Pak. history
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Bhaijaan, really Pakistan need people like you mashaallah subhanallah❤❤❤
Lots of love and respect from India
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You are right but you people should also get rid of people like Modi and Godi media.
bravo .. what a well researched masterpiece 🎉
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Please carry on 👍👍
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This was mind-blowing. I've always believed and known that Zia was evil, but this is the first time I'm hearing such details about his terrible and harmful policies and actions.
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@@ThePakistanExperience I remember when the news of his plane crash was announced. Even though I was a teenager, I remember feeling a sense of joy that he was finally dead.
My family used to refer to him as "Kaana Dajjal" which means "The one-eyed evil devil-man".
Keep up the good work, yes, we want to see the next video!
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Very Informative!
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Ek toh " Islam ka galat istemal " bahut hota hai!!
Islaam is a terrorist organization
Ye dogli kaum hain. Agar bhukhe na mar Rahe hote to Bhutto bhi Inka hero hota. Have you ever heard any Muslim talk about atrocities by Muslim against Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists etc?
the imran khan + zia ul fuck's picture at the end 💀
Hussain Haqqani He was also the culprit of Jamtie Islami
You are absolutely right well said and well done --- very good analysis based on truth --- good show.
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No Shehzad before Zia, Jinah was the man who played a divisive politics in the name of religion.
British wanted a Buffer state So Jinnah created Pakistan for elites, generals & Bureaucrats who wanted to save their asses from Socialism and they are living their best life in Pakistan today So Jinnah Two Nation Theory project is successful. One affluent nation for elites & generals and another for Common Pakistanis.
Add that he used terrorism as political instrument. The direct action was call to riot. They used similar tactics throughout their political career. I consider first serous terrorist of modern South Asia.
Don't compare him with Bhagat singh or any revolutionary as they also used violence. Their violence was against Colonial powers. His violence was against common Indians. Both are completely different approach.
Two nation was not his project
Think before you say
Minorities including hindus were persecuted (Dogra rule is an example) so north indian muslims wanted a state british wanted a buffer state so both worked for their own gains
@@aithshamqayyum7714 pagal he kya democracy mein kaheka mughal kaheka dogra
@@darshansharma3694 in princely states like Kashmir Muslims were persecuted despite being in majority and bw 1937 and 1939 Muslims in other parts of India were also oppressed this made jinnah change his mind ( he was ambassador of Hindu Muslim Unity at first) however what has happened has happened even if he was evil it should not matter now both countries are realities and should have friendly relations now
@@darshansharma3694 and please refrain from calling someone mad because they don’t agree with you it’s simply unacceptable in debates
I actually ended up downloading the book and reading it. I'm halfway through. It's a fascinating read and shows you why Pakistan is the way it is. Also points out how similar patterns have continued to repeat over the course of Pakistan since its inception including what's happening right now.
You have to read the Qur'an then you will learn more.
@@devendrajhade6526 thanks for the unsolicited advice dude.
Great Topic.
Do you have any video on black September?
Very good analysis brother... Sad that the rulers after Zia also not corrected 😟
The "11 years" was not a number :(
It was the darkest and the longest night. Full of suffocation! Primary institutions were infected, and People ( esp: Punjab) didn't show patience to let democracy grow afterward.
Don't you think, faces of Zia-ul-hak and Ya ya Khan looks like alians.? Or not like a normal human beings.
Nice Analysis ! 👍
I was riding a cab in Chicago. The driver was Pakistani who pointed to a building named K2 which was apparently funded entirely by Zia ul Haq.
That was my last visit to pakistan, the day Benazir Bhutto was busy with her elections.
Ohh!! That last line hit hard..
Purane pakistan ko discuss krna chahiye 😐👍😊
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I am really impressed by ur shows.
BTW I am new to your channel.😊
I would surely like to see you conducting a show with Barrister Hamid Bhashani sahab as well as with Tahir Gora sahab.😊
Thank you
Best wishes to you 😊👍
Precise and Concise. Great
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The Title should be...How General zia ul haque shaheed saved pakistan.
Education is the only way now ....
Or else things will get worse
Agreed
What education 😂
When one is educated he will question because he wants to know and wants to explore and that equates to sar tan se juda 😂
Before education they need to criminalise islame and ban that satanic book.
"how islam destroyed pakistan"
No how muslims destroyed islam and pak.
Brutally truthful. Salutes one thousand, chief
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Sir you have a great nara "Kashmir banega Pakistan". The question should be asked to your millitary and also your people. Have you that ability to take that by force or by sending some mujahid. What is your opinion also ❤ from India. As a Indian we don't hate Pakistani people. We know your millitary and your Rulers fooled Pakistani people for their own gain and are also fooling in era of Internet social media. You and some people are doing fantastic job for your country.I salute you.I pray lot more viewership from Pakistan. Pakistan must think critically to come out their illusion that they are superior over the world.❤❤
Pakistan's miltary and Politicians are definately corrupt but India is definately our enemy as well. If we did not have nuclear bomb, India would have done the same to Pakistan as what id did to kashmir and Kashmiris. So we have to be vigilant of India as well. Islamists have harmed Pakistan, i agree, but they have kept India as bay as well. Otherwise Pakistan would have been long gone at the hands of India. We experienced this in 1971. 1971 was a big lesson for us. The Islamization of Pakistan started after that and did not give india a chance to repeat 1971 again
Pak Army no 1 in the world. ISI no 1 in the world. I am so proud of Zia ul Haque for making Pakistanis madsara chap jahil.
I wish that there was social media in era of zia ul haq
Incredibly informative..... Hats off to this guy who has the guts to speak truth
Credit goes both to Shehzad for this Vlog and to Husain Haqqani who wrote the book which Shehzad is summarizing.
thanks for the explanation bro
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Keep educating us bro ❤
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Excellent discussion.
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Very nice, honest and logical analysis.
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Drugs, guns, discrimination, extremism, sobayat, firqa killing, mullahism, kufri fatwa etc u name it. That kana dajjal is responsible for all that.
Here, in Pakistan, Religion is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
And now we have Zia ul Haq son and Ayub khan's grandchild associated to one party PTI
Zia ul haq was the hired gun of the American adventure in Afghanistan
Yes dear make another video
Ok coming soon
Love you very very much, Bhaijan! 💖💖💖 Love and respect from Bangladesh. 🇧🇩 I enjoy you and Syed Muzammil Shah! 💖💖💖🤲
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Fantastic informations
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You also need to ask Hussan Haqqani on what frame of mind he was and why he supported Zia when he was young, I believe he was announcing the death of Zia on live tv and calling him glorious names.
czcams.com/video/n1whXAXmn9A/video.html I already have
Great show
Pakistan needs secularism.I think it is our hypocrisy that we want sharia law in pakistan but still prefer western countries to live.
Bahut jordaar tarike se bataya ...👍👌👌👌
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Most interesting and useful information from kpk mardan
Please keep on your fantastic truthful Pakistan history,
Please educate us
Wow! Now that's fearlessly speaking truth to the power. 👏👏👏
I hope your courage is contagious to youth across the world to speak the truth, do what's right and participate in shaping their country's future.
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