Fix your AIM with this weird drill
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2023
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To all who think I shouldn't cite Spin & Throw for losing my credibility:
"I shall never be ashamed of citing a bad author if the line is good." -Seneca
...and if you're lefty, you do the mirror of this drill.
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Perfect backhand upshot drill... Exactly what im working on right now so (for some reason) I'm so interested in it. 😊❤ From your potential best friend or worst enemy
Why would you want to be my worst enemy?
@@dgspindoctor I wouldn't unless certain scenarios were true like hasty advice leading to lifelong injuries which were then trolled by the advisor as being untrue... Obviously this video has no possibility of that outcome and is very well done
@@Subdivision21 This is no joking matter and I'm taking these kinds of accusations and even hints at them very seriously.
I am not taking responsibility for your possible injuries. You alone are responsible for your actions, especially since I'm not watching you practice and don't personally know your issues or what you do and don't do when you throw. I can only give a rough outline of the form I consider good, and since it's done through videos, I cannot vouch that it works for you and your body, your style of throwing, your shoes, your tee pads, or the potholes in the field you may end up tripping in as you practice.
Sorry for the strict reply, but I have to make it clear for you and everyone out there looking for opportunities to get victimized and blame others for their stupid actions leading to injuries.
@@dgspindoctor NOW you're taking them seriously which we appreciate. Also, I'm not looking for opportunities to get victimized like others are. Thank you for the attitude change. I mean this sincerely. Your content here is good and helpful.
My attitude is the same as always. And no, will not tolarate bullshitters, just don't be one.
I think I finally found the drill that will help with my issue of getting the disc "stuck" behind me and not having my feet offset. Didn't notice how bad it was until I filmed myself from behind. It seems so counterintuitive, but after trying it out, I feel myself actually bracing more correctly and my arm whipping through faster with less effort. Was recently trying to actively turn my hips and "break down rhe door with my elbow" and all that stuff which completely messes up my timing. Your videos make way more sense.
Tried this today. I found it really hard and uncomfortable, so I obviously needed it. Thanks!
Best coach there is imo. This is mind boggling. If I was to put a drill together it would be running up the opposite way but I’ve been working on shit for 2 years and this is my exact problem. This makes sense. God dammit. If you’re ever in the states let us know!
I love the "spin" you put on this concept. I also followed Bradley for a while. This makes so much more sense now. I'm using this drill. THANKS!
This is a super drill and you explain it in minutes they way Walker can't explain it in hours :)
Thanks for posting! You're my go to resource and we have gotten a few beginners to almost our level in record time :)
Great stuff, Jaani!
I have always noticed when I focused on not over-rotating my throw was so much better but I keep sliding back into that habit during rounds. Definitely going to try this drill for an extended period of time to hopefully teach my muscles. Thanks for the drill!
Gotta try this out! Thanks for the video!
Your coaching method and way of explaining things is on point. I’ve been pulling a few shots lately so I’m definitely going to try this drill. Keep the videos coming 👌
Me 200%. Gotta try the drill asap. Very good video! And you posted it right when needed the most 👌🏻
Needed this … one of the best drills out there for over rotation.
This help me a lot, thank you for your time 😊
Going to do this today! Thanks again for helping and making it SO DAMN EASY! You’re the man! ❤
I don't really have a problem with late release anymore but I still tried this drill and I liked it. It actually feels easier for me to aim with the run up angled towards 1 or 2 o clock but I lose power (of course). Going back to normal throwing I worried about problems with early release but if anything I aimed better than normal with maintained power. The drill caters to a problem I don't have so maybe it's pointless but since it felt good I'm going to keep doing it for a while.
❤Exactly the drill I need! Your teachings and techniques have helped me tremendously and resonant more than any others I've watched. Thank you for all you do.
Exactly what I needed, I've been struggling with late release and my aim is completely off for some time now, lost all of my confident in bh throw, I'll try this for sure! Thank you Jaani you are a legend!
Such a beautiful drill!
There was so much confusion about the 10 to 2 drill in the spin and throw Facebook group
I don't think Brad ever made video on it, there was just a sketch drawing
Thanks for clearing up this drill for all of us
Thanks! I tried to find a video about it, but couldn't. To this day I'm not sure how it's done "the correct" way, but this is my version of it anyway and this is how I've done it for years and made my students go through it.
@@dgspindoctor yeah it's amazing there wasn't a video made on it. It was hailed as the most important drill in the spin and throw method.
I was never sure if we were supposed to step to 2 o'clock only in the last step, or if the whole run-up should be towards 2 o'clock. I think I even asked the question in the group and I got at least a few different answers.
I think your version makes sense - enough for me to actually try it 👍
Thank you for showing us multiple angles 👍
Great video! Straight and to the point. Looking forward to trying this drill out. On a production note. THANK YOU for setting up this video as you did. Setting yourself centered between the two goals, makes it easy to understand the orientation when you flip the video perspective, from thowing away from the camera, to at the camera.
Good drill, good teaching, I'm going to try this for sure. Thanks!
Your videos always help! I would have figured my throw was maxed out
But you show me how I'm barely scratching the surface and make believe I can yet get big distance
I've been over-rotating for sure, to the point of hurting my back and arm.
That one part should read "make ME believe"
This just might be the drill in looking for, thanks can't wait to get out in the field and try this
Love the track suit!!! Looking good my man!
Nice! I noticed that on the throwing plant, there was the "window" between the feet that i saw on several other videos. The throwing window helped me increase my distance but my accuracy is not as consistent. What you demonstrated looks to be the ticket. Great video!
Going to try this drill as soon as the rain stops, great video
Definitely going to work on this one...even though i try to throw from my right peck, it still doesn't feel like im doing it correctly. I think this may be the missing piece for me...your the king Jaani! 🤴 🙏❤
Of course throw from the right pec if you can. This is just a drill, remember.
Great Video bro, i appreciate the content you put out it has helped me tremendously in a short amount of time.
jealous of the smoothness... 💜's for you and the content
Been having late release for a while and you explain the reason so well. Learned to “pull” and overemphasize “rotation”. This drill immediately improved my lines and speed. Felt good. Just need more practice to get it to stick. Thank you.
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Excellent drill ! That’s how it should look, effortlessly.
Thank you so much , I am going to practice "your drill " and see the progress I can make .
You can do it!
Thank you!
I've been looking for a drill to fix my "yanks", and I think I've found it! Many thanks for posting this brilliant vid!
this is a great drill!
I am going to try it for sure.
This drill looks awesome
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Sweet, gotta try it 🤟
Good throwing
Surreal clouds in the sky. Thanks again for another idea to think about, and experiment with. Bradley's great..
Through the Magic of editing, everything is possible!
@@dgspindoctor Nice touch, the little extra's is what makes your content enjoyable.
Could you do an drill videos from the lower body up to to upper body how to practice good for. For exampel how to walk the run up without focus on anything else
Englanti alkaa jo soljumaan. Keep it up 👍
I feel like people who late release are also "strong arming" a noodle arm I feel is best
this looks fun
It takes a lot of time for some people to get to this point but after you start developing that straight line shot that is in line with you shoulders the entire shot, that's when you know your form is dialed because you can throw on a rope at almost any distance.
You are such a great teacher! I don't know what is wrong with my form but something feels of... I can't throw over 110 meters, no mater how hard i try! I just keep releasing the disc late if i try to throw harder. My record is 104 meters and i usually get between 80-90 meters on my full power throws. I will practice this drill and let you know the results!
This is literally me. Ive been stuck at the same distances since mid summer last year
Me too. I can throw 250-270 feet fairly consistently at full power, but no more. I've hit 320 a time or so, but it seems like all the work on my form has taken my distance down some.
I remember doing this back in the day and it was extremely awkward and I ended up abandoning it……felt so weak like I could not throw anywhere. I need to revisit this because I know I need to
Remember: This is a drill. You are not throwing like this in reality, only trying to fix bad habits by going to the other extreme your muscles are used to.
@@dgspindoctor true enough, but I could not get throwing results like that
@@patrickflanigan951well he’s getting those results cause if he’s already trained. How long did you do the drill? Been working on a few for months myself.
@@TacitcalThrower certainly wasn’t that long. I just need to revisit it
It's 10:20pm and than mare me want to go drill so bad!
He threw a DRIVER? WAT.
Great drill, really forces the correct throwing motion.
Are you familiar with the "throw around the pole" drill? I like that as well because if you yank it right of the pole, you know you threw late. However, I like this more than that one. ❤
Thanks! I have never tried it, because this so good.
@@dgspindoctor Another of Bradley's creations. Pole is 100 ft in front of you and you must throw around it to the left. Essentially what you are doing here because you can see a shot yanked right of the field goal.
ive hurt my elbow from slapping in and out def golfer elbow and doesnt wanna go away ..
Aye Spin Doc, I’m waiting with bated breath for a new video!!
I'm working on it
When I did this drill today, it definitely was tough, and when I did it successfully I kept throwing on hyzer, couldn’t seem to throw it flat at all.
That's quite normal. I guess you late release on a hyzer doing your normal form?
@@dgspindoctor when I do late release yes.
Also, do you have a link to your personal coaching? I’m not making it work on my own
Sorry, I do not. I'm running out of time already, and as of now, cannot commit to much more personal coaching than occasional sessions here and there.
Do you recommend a standstill for new players off tee pad? If so how would foot placement and everything look opposed to a run up
Stand still is good, but I would always take a small stride keeping the back foot on the ground.
Doc!! Got something to run by you. Been really implementing your teachings and getting far away from “slingshot back leg” throwing. Your car crash analogy is great, but personally I was still struggling with getting the weight into the brace while moving slowly. Instead, I exaggerated the movement by thinking of my right foot as launching my body (car) into the wall, which is created my the right foot landing and bracing. So, using my right foot to launch back into itself, essentially eliminating the left cross step from thought, and putting little to no weight on it all. Almost as if im keeping the weight solely in the right leg. I guess it’s like a modified cro-hop? But why im writing this is because after doing that, combined with your teachings, im getting mids 350+ with relative ease and finally getting above the 450 mark max distance with drivers. Have you tried this, and is there some downside I should be concerned about?
That is perfect. Look at DoubleG, who is almost in the air for the X-step, the back foot barely touching the ground.
@@dgspindoctor ohhhh, so that’s the exaggerated version of what I’m doing somewhat, that makes sense. There’s no chance that would have clicked if I wasn’t drilling all of your video tips, thanks a ton Doc. Parked a 415 foot hole today with relative ease thanks to you
@@andrewjung69875 months later, is that footwork thought still working for you? I am starting to try the same and having some encouraging results. Just wondered if that thought was still working for you?
Many thanks for your videos ! Highly appreciated
What I don’t understand here : I have to let the Disc go early, right ? I mean not like in a usual drive where the disc leaves the hand itself.
Hope you understand what I mean :-)
No, I do not "let go" of the disc. It rips out. In the drill, the aim is more out of the body than across the body, so the disc will leave the hand earlier naturally. This is a corrective exercise to eliminate the late release, so we exaggerate. To drill is to exaggerate.
Cant wait to try this drill?
Started this today, shot some disc to the right, but most of my shots went straight and further.
Nice feeling, isn't it?
Yea my technique isn’t to that much of a angle change, I hit gaps with power just fine with a version of this but not so exaggerated.
i like it
I'd like to see someone with this problem try this drill and see this fix the problem because I may have this very problem
DR I watched your video on the modified fan grip. I have tried using it for approach shots but it is catching on my pinky and I am pulling it right every time. When I do a fan grip splaying my fingers down the back of the disc I am developing a bad blister on my middle finger but am more accurate. What do I do? I literally only need to learn the approach grip and my game will be so much better. PLEASE HELPPPP
Keep on experimenting and most of all, relax.
If assuming for left handlers it’s 11-2-1?
Yup, just mirror it.
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How many points is a field goal worth in disc golf? Please remind me. 💙🤙
How would you practice this as a stand still thrower?
I need to make a stand still video for sure, but for now: always take a stride, even when you go "stand still." Just one step forward and you'll get A LOT more power.
@@dgspindoctor Thanks Jaani, I'll try that.
Ok now do early release 😀
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Let’s say the basket was 250 feet directly straight from the tee pad. Does that front foot go left of the basket? I just do No understand foot placement
If you feel like. There is no right and wrong when you know what to do and why.
Jaani, can I ask you how far you can throw from a stand-still? I can throw 95 m at the moment, and I would like to know how bad that is. What would be a reasonable goal? Thanks.
Nyt taisin keksiä, mistä homma kiikastaa. Vertasin omaa heittoa Lindahlin heittoon (czcams.com/video/bEQEOrvDMOI/video.html). Lindahlilla lähtee paino siirymään eteen silloin, kun kiekko siirtyy taakse. Itselläni paino menee kiekon mukana taakse ja kiekon mukana eteen. Lindahlilla homma menee toisinpäin, paino on jo menossa eteen, kun kiekko menee vasta taaksepäin.
Se se on. Kumpi on tehokkaampaa: venyttää kuminauhaa yhdestä päästä kun toinen pää pysyy paikallaan, vai vetää sitä kahdesta suunnasta kireelle yhtä aikaa? Niinpä.
Mä heitän Rocia n. 100 metriä paikaltaan.
@@dgspindoctor Hyvä analogia. Itse asiassa olisi hyvä tehdä heitosta animaatio, missä kaikki liikkeet on mahdutettu samaan kuvaan (nuolien kanssa). Sellaisella olisi oppinut melko hyvin, luulen.
P.S. Olin Talin Tallaajissa jäsenenä jo 2000-luvun alkupuolella vähän aikaa. 🙃
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i feel like you dress like a young Hugh Hefner..
Either him or old Fidel Castro.
So are you presenting this as just a drill to practice or are you suggesting that running up at an angel should is how we should be throwing straight shots? Because if this is just a drill, after we practice it and then go back to a straight run up, we will now be throwing NOT straight, but rather left. Hope that makes sense
No, it's a corrective drill to get rid of bad habits.
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step towards 2:00 and release at 10:00 sounds crazy. Am I the only one that notices Paul McBeth and 'everyone else" steps to 10:00 and releases to 12:00? But whenever anyone speaks about this , it comes out backwards. I don't get it.. Paul always steps to the upper left corner of the tpad and releases straight.
Maybe watch the video again?
It's way better to release late in stead of releasing early. At least that's what my girlfriend told me...
Lots of disc golf, get better videos, have been popping up on my suggestion lists. My question to all of them are, WHO are you and why should I listen to you? Hopefully you will answer. I do find what you have posted interesting.
That is the question I keep asking myself too, and the answer is yet to come clearly enough.
@@dgspindoctor At this point I have watched most of your videos and searched you out to get an idea of your disc golf background and I have come to the decision, what you say and show makes sense and works. That's good enough for me.
The problem I see with any content creator that is teaching on a subject is the need to keep posting week after week even after the creator has covered all the topic well. I don't have an answer for that.
I'll have to go see if your new elbow tuck video is new information now. lol 😀
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I had so much respect for you before this video. Literally Bradley Walker is one of the least respected "form gurus"
Sidewinder doesn't like him she his methods, neither does loopghost. When I found his videos, any form guy was like no he's dead wrong and his methods are injury prone.
To top that off, he's an ass. If you go to the spin and throw page and question any part of it he kicks you from the group. Have to be careful who you associate with, lest your be judged the same.
I said pretty much explicitely that I disagree with him, but that because of him I now teach the way I do.
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