Finding murderers and their backstories interesting is ok but making fanart and idolizing them is not. Imagine how the families of the victims would feel. Super insensitive
@@stefan6347 yes! It's ok to write a story inspired by these kinds of things. Inspiration comes from anywhere. It's only a problem when it become fan fiction. Like the other person said.
How about just drawing a picture? Guess fanart that is but what if I just want to draw a picture of them but I don’t support the actions and I don’t idolize them in anyway but just find the story interesting and explain how their actions was horrible and sending best wishes to the family but still don’t condone their actions and not idolizing/romanticizing them. Sorry if this doesn’t make any sense
I also despise the fact that the image is completely incorrect in terms of comparison. In Undertale, Chara never kills anyone. All the deaths caused in the Genocide Run were caused by you, the player. They simply finished your hard work by erasing the world. Girl A on the other hand, voluntarily killed someone out of spite, and was entirely aware of her actions. Doesn’t help that unlike Chara, she’s real.
It shocked me to think that a game character so recent was posed together with a real life murder who committed a crime over 10 years ago. The sinking feeling came when I realized that people out there are still circulating this version of a person who did something horrible and who regrets it to this day
@@veryexciteddog963 I'm not saying that people aren't overdoing it with this case, but if you murder a human being you kind of deserve to be reminded of that the rest of your life. And that's not "rubbing it in her face"-she killed someone.
I don't know why you just blame the weebs fantasizing Japan when this literally got big in Japan. You know, from Japanese people doing it. The west didn't even know about it until after. It's not "the weebs", it's serial killer fantasizers, and every country has them.
People adoring and obsessing over killers is disgusting. Girl A’s story is really tragic and heartbreaking and it’s sad that people turned it into some type of weird murder fetish and obsess over what could of possibly been what caused Girl A to do what she did I’ll never get Murder worship and Murder Romanticization
RooST and there are people that fangirl/fanboy over school shooters, it’s disturbing and gross. I can’t understand why people have “crushes” over school shooters
Girl A: * Stays in shock, feels extreme guilt, walks towards a teacher in order to be taken to the police * Weirdos in the internet: * Draw her smiling with blood and enjoying killing *
I'd like to address the issue of you saying Autism/Aspergers being a mental health illness. It's not. It's a neurological disorder. There's a HUGE difference between mental and neurological problems. For example: depression is a mental health disorder. Dementia is a neurological disorder. See the difference? Anyway, just wanted to put that out there.
Asbergers and autism are developmental disorders, which are still classified as mental disorders. Please don't apply an inherently bad tone to mental disorders.
yes and ADHD along with that! you can have symptoms of ADHD/autism that are mental illnesses (anxiety being a huge one, depression, or Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria for adhd specifically) but it drives me crazy when ppl just categorize them as mental illnesses. that’s the kind of thinking that keeps neurodivergent kids from getting special accommodations in school for their disabilities :( (And obvs ppl with mental health issues need help too! but it’s just a different thing)
This reminds me of the time ppl who started romanticing the real life yandere girl who stabbed her boyfriend and ppl wanted her to be let free because she was cute looking and yandere like its sickening to see ppl drawing Nevada tan and influencing her actions
I don't get how people think stuff like, "Hey, let me draw someone who attempted to murder someone, it doesn't matter if they tried to kill someone, they look cute so who cares?" I don't get their way of thinking, they're always like, "OmG yanDeRE QUeEn!" It annoys me so much, both that case, and this case, and every person who romantisies murderers, criminals, people like that.
@@raineyes8305 she stabbed her boyfriend and got arrested and she blew up for looking cute and yandere like and ppl were making a petition for her to be let free because she was adorable she had tons of fanart and ppl were justifying her actions as something good and ppl classified her as a real life yandere-chan ((Correct me if im wrong))
In my eyes. We need to dig up everything about the killer so we can learn to counteract similar evils later on. We have to morn the victim after when the first situation and when our hearts aren’t caught up with the evils still. It seems harsh but it provides more closure, almost like a better send off. In a way it’s almost poetic how dark and sad it is
*>Tfw artists of some of those pictures have actual talent but they're wasting it on romanticizing a child murderer* I am genuinely terrified of thinking just what goes through these people's heads sometimes.
@@Mawfet and that is wrong because? Art is whatever inspires you. If that happens to come from a dark place, why is that wrong? I could ask the inverse of that. If I show you a beautiful piece that you would enjoy, then afterwards I tell you that it's a painting by the worst person you can imagine. You would obviously feel some type of way. All I'm saying is that art should be free. If you're asking the morals involved then that's your answer, people have different morals and priorities that you do. Asking why is too general of a question because someone can come up with hundreds of justifications to answer why.
It's partly murder fetishism (the Japan side) mixed with the rise of yandere, tsundere, etc. (The US side). As far as half the people at the time knew she was just some generic steryotpical yandere. That was until more people (who knew Japanese) started researching the Japan side of things more and found out about the murder.
I cried when he talked about her talking about her Asperger's. I have Asperger's myself, along with many other mental disorders. It hurts so bad to have to suffer something so discreet yet so life-altering and life destroying. Very few people can truly help us with Asperger's. I'm not excusing Natsumi's crime. Not at all. I just really sympathized with that. It hurts, and it's so hard. I wish Natsumi could've gotten help sooner and was able to control herself enough to not do such an inexcusable thing. Also, I need to say that people on the autism spectrum have a problem with TOO MUCH empathy. We have so much that we shut down because of the intense barrage of the sense of emotions we can sense from others around us. We don't know how to deal with all of that at once.
I also have asperger's and I struggle with a lot of self-hatred because, people call me names for my obsessions/infatuations the things I am obsessed with particularly people and obviously some of these comments on here reminded me of the fact that I am truly alone and a bad person :( Just all because of something I can't help :'( When I get overwhelmed I have a meltdown and I scream and cry loudly.
There's a great manga series called "With the Light," about a Japanese child with autism that goes into a lot of the cultural and social side of Japanese life and how autism is viewed there. It's a little older now, so some things might be out of date, but it's touching story.
Asuperu Kanojo is another manga that is very similar in that regard, although it focuses on the romantic side of things, living alongside individuals considered as outcasts and freaks in contemporary Japanese society. It's probably my favorite romance manga of last decade, so definitely read it while you have the chance.
Same. The only thing one can do after committing something so horrible is to ensure they’ll never do it again, and improving as a person is a respectable way to do that.
@@megmorgan21421 Right, but it can't be easy for the loved ones of the murder victim to see the murderer get to live a long, happy life after cutting the victim's life short.
Its disgusting she has a fandom. People need to learn how to empathise, to consider the effect of their actions. I'm glad her life is back on track though. It's not often that people manage to deal with the past.
Would be nice if you could say that about the girl that she murdered. But you can't. Her whole life was stolen from her and the person who did it gets nothing but protection and sympathy.
@@cyan5260 I did not know the girl she murdered personally. I do not know her family I have no right to speak about her, or what ifs. Let the dead rest.
Cyan the girl she murdered bullied her a lot and she got angry and lashed out because she was mentally unstable. She turned her life around after and regretted what she did and thats a positive thing out of a sad situation
@@cyan5260 And several years of institutionalization. Convenient to forget that, eh? To not give the (bare minimum) protections to a child would be massively unethical. Also, no one is sympathizing with the murderer's actions. Rather, people are empathizing with the fact that one girl lost her life and the other was put in a position to take life because she was a young, emotionally-unintelligent girl with a neurological disorder that greatly affects social-emotional behavior -- in a society that does little (if anything) to help these children deal with said social-emotional issues and maladaptive behaviors. Shit reads like a Greek tragedy.
The entire time I was sat here thinking, what if my daughter had been killed. And to know all that happened in that amount of detail.. I don’t think I could live anymore.
I know. First of all, fetishized a young murderer. Three words that should never be together. “Fetishized young murderer”. Second, why does she have a fan base, let alone even anybody who likes her? I’m glad she got her life together and all but damn, she took someone’s life. R.i.p.
As someone who has Asperger’s, watching this was a bit ... painful; it’s not something that you can really notice in me, at least not right off the bat, because I’m higher functioning and had interventions at an early age. It still really hurts sometimes and even though there are a lot of positives, it has hindered my math and social skills...for a long time a lot of my peers thought I was dumb. Well, I thought I was dumb, for sure. But my main point is, a lot of people associate Asperger’s with lacking empathy and being weird and sus, so this all just really hurt to see because it certainly doesn’t help things. Thank you for going into the topic of Asperger’s at the end of this video, you are very mature and comforting when it comes to the topic of mental health. Yes, Asperger’s a lot of the time comes with anxiety and depression due to social stress but...it isn’t what defines us.
hey. i just started therapy for terrible anxiety and depression. your entire video is actually darkly beautiful, and overall a really horrible situation. but what you said at the end really struck a nerve with me. you handled this topic beautifully
@Ghostly pie these people don’t represent artists They waste their talent To make real life killers look cool instead of using it in a way that would benefit everyone including Themselves
That’s the thing about being an artist, as I’d know. There are an infinite number of ways that it can be used, and how you use it is entirely up to you. What is your art page, if you don’t mind me asking?
Looking at this from outside, all I can really see is a tragedy. We can blame whoever we want, but in the end, this was about a child dying a horrific death at the hands of another child lashing out at the world around her. It's okay to feel pity for Girl A. It's NOT okay to glamorize her and turn her into a fucking yandere loli meme. The best we can do is try to prevent anything like this from happening again.
well yes. we love to expose ourselves to stuff we fear. that's why people go on rollercoasters and watch horror movies (even the ones that aren't violent)... if you see, read or hear something awful and then remind yourself that you yourself are not in danger, that gives you a feeling of relief and relief is a good feeling. so you watch a horror movie and in the moment you are scared to death... in the next you remind yourself that "oh I'm just on my sofa looking at a screen" and you are relieved, and the adrenaline from the scare also gives you a high. it's not very complicated really
The injustice for the victim and her family reminds me of Junko Furuta’s torturers/murderers not facing charges due to them being teens and not yet adults.
That is a terrible comparison. Not to say that both aren't terrible crimes but Junko was brutally tortured by a group of boys because she rejected one of them to the murder of a bully, the killer being someone who was clearly mentally ill and was actually sorry for what theu did. Again I'm not excusing girl A's actions and both murders are sad but comparing both as equally unjust makes no sense to me
Never No Rest i made the original comment because Junko Furuta’s death was still fresh in my mind, but reading over it now, i’ve just realized how insensitive it may be.
@@-aangiee-9668 Yandere Simulator rip off with references to a child killer is something that I thought I wouldve never been able to say and or hear about
Pretty crazy how Japan handles the suspects in cases like this, protecting them to the point that withing 5 years they have a different identity and live a normal life without incident afterwards. A case like this here would create a hardened criminal in prison that could never live a normal life, if they're ever released to begin with
i really dont understand the "killer adoration" culture people have. Tho as long as they just "adore" and not do anything harmful to themselves, or other people then whatever.
Maybe it's just me but I find a morbid fascination in myself towards murderers and there stories. However I agree I don't understand some people who adore Ted Bundy or the Colombine shooters. And from what I've seen for the most part it's just harmless but you are correct that they need to watch themselves before that adoration turns into a motive
@@JollyJuiice Me too, I don't understand how another person can just, DO THAT, they might have mental illnesses but I don't have any so I legit do not understand, it gets me all riled up
I had a friend a long time ago with really intense aspergers. She was a fantastic friend, an absolute joy to hang out and play video games with, and she definitely did have some obsessions and strange tendencies, but the most notable part of her aspergers was that when there was something she didn't like, or she felt overstimulated (hearing whistling, getting in an argument, too much energy etc.) she would have a sudden physical outburst. This could've been throwing something, throwing her hands about in anger or just straight up hitting me (this is sort of why we're not friends anymore). She told me that she never thought about why hitting someone when you're angry could be bad, or that she couldn't see when she was going too far. She wasn't an angry person, but because her parents, or anyone else, never taught her boundaries, or how to deal with intense emotions she had, her outlet just happened to be physical. Now, I'm not excusing a criminal here. But she was a child. Someone who clearly felt alienated and alone and had no control whatsoever, and that was amplified because in Japan, not a single person talks about autism, mental health, or anything of the like. There was no way for her to understand herself because there's only one model example for children there. So yes; if that little girl had gotten help or guidance before, this wouldn't have happened. People with aspergers aren't psychopaths or murderers, but when they aren't helped through the difference in thought patterns, it can become a real struggle. I feel nothing but pain for both sides, and I truly, truly hope that Japan changes it's attitude towards mental health. It is SO. IMPORTANT.
I have Asperger's also and when I get overwhelmed I have a meltdown - basically I just need to scream and cry. Loudly. And I don't stop. I can't stop. Because it feels like hell
i have autism as well (used to be aspergers but things changed), and i never truly understood physical boundaries until i was in 5th grade because nobody explicitly told me whats okay and not okay. i used to just hug people without asking and my best friend at the time told me that sometimes she didnt want hugs, and i needed to respect her boundaries and such. that opened my eyes and ever since then ive always asked people before i give hugs if i even do.
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I've been pondering over the last 5 minutes over what should I comment about, but I can't quite translate my feelings into words, I'm just glad this video exists, specially the part about her struggles and her medical condition. As someone with Asperger's I really think today's society should focus more on mental health, and... Ah whatever no one's gonna read this comment, just know that this video is great, mental health is important, and no matter who you are or what problems you are facing, you will be able to live a normal, happy life
I think the worst thing about having aspergers/asd is the "stereotype residue". it's not exactly the stereotype itself but characteristics of it that are so deep buried in people's minds that are already common to expect, like the pressure on having good grades or a "special talent" (as if every aspie/autistic person needs to be a prodigy) when in reality all we want is to live normally and not in the spotlight
I cant imagine being the parent of the girl who was killed and seeing fanart made of their child's murderer, even fan art of the actual EVENT. The level of degeneracy you would have to be at to idolize and make a meme out of a murder is unfathomable to me
ya know.. this made me remember of where people did the exact same thing where they were sorta fetishing a women who was also in japan who murdered a man at a train station, theres video of it out there so go look it up for yourself to understand
yuka takaoka or whatever her name is? if so, then yea, that case gets me really angry, people are calling her a yandere quee n and THERE ARE FAN ACCOUNTS, I really hate people who do that harmful crap
Imagine you are the parent of the boy that got stabbed and you see that people are idolizing the girl that killed your son. Smh that's just fucked up yo
This is just disgusting. Girl A does not deserve this. Both in terms of the cult following, and the not being able to apologize to the family. I cannot begin to comprehend how she feels.
The cult following is fucked up, but she deserves the other shit she got. She killed a YOUNG FUCKING GIRL FOR NO GOOD REASON. Mental illness doesn't change what she did. The girl should've been locked up for MUCH longer than she was and even tried as a fucking adult.
How *she* feels? I can’t imagine how the family feels, the murderer of their child got only 4 years of time and a new identity in order to protect her. The victim’s family didn’t catch a single break from the media and weren’t even allowed to have a moment of peace.
I mean, she did murder someone. She kinda deserve this, I think she deserves more even. The family DID NOT deserve all this. Bullying and mental illness doesn't excuse anyone from doing a crime. How many people do you think have mental illness and are bullied and how many of them turned into a murderer? The government are disgusting, society is disgusting. They're protecting a fricking murderer so she could live safely? The victim's family doesn't even have the peace to grief for their loss! That's fucked up. How many sick people even like this comment
Okay been kinda binging your videos so ignore my multiple comments but this video was fantastically done and your words at the end were great. It touched me how this one turned out. Great job 👍👌
Even children commit disgusting and violent crimes, and people shouldn’t romanticize it. (Romanticize it as referring to fascinating over it and using it for their own pleasure, interpret that how you may.) This is like people fangirling over Jeffery Dahmer. Now, yes, people already do that, but that is not the point. To appreciate a murderer and to meme a murderer is to bring light to a sick/hurt individual. Fucking gross. Anyone who’d ever choose to “like” a murderer, especially a minor murderer, is fucked in the head and can eat shit.
There are even whackos that romanticize what the Columbine killers did. I don't know who it was off the top of my head, but someone did a whole video about True Crime obsession and it was fascinating.
Exactly, and I guarantee, give it a few years time and there will be people praising the perpetrators of recent tragedies. I'd wholeheartedly argue that the people who praise these killers are almost just as bad. If someone hears the details of these events and isn't at all put off and instead starts putting the killer up on a pedestal, I'd say they're a pretty messed up individual and that they should probably be monitored as it wouldn't be too far off for that person to also do something horrific. I'd like to give humanity the benefit of the doubt and say this isn't going to be the case but with how many people are on this planet, there's always going to be at least one scumbag.
I remember being in middle school and being obsessed with reading about serial killers and murders. Not a phase I'm too proud about but I remember stumbling upon this case and getting so invested in what happened and the meme. I never participated in it but was just kinda curious. Eventually I read everything I could find and moved along (this was before she got out). Its so nice having an ending to this story even if it may not be true
Fares Alsayed The Slenderman stabbing is more similar to the Zoro Chan case where this girl with suicidal thoughts live streamed so that she could be a legend and some horrible ppl decided to tell her if she jumped off a building she’d become a legend which she ended up doing and she died
I’d I feel both sides On one hand you have a murder who killed a little girl On the other you had an unstable kid who was confused What they did wasn’t right undoubtedly wrong but Idk
there was a german numetal band back in the day called Nevada-Tan (they had to rename themselves to "Panik!" because of issues with the old lable) the band was composed of like 4 teenagers, so "edgy" not only because of their name 🤣 they even had like 3 pretty big hits back then. the biggest hit was "Revolution" which literally starts with the words "Fickt euch!" (Fuck You! [plural])
@@Mawfet czcams.com/video/mawzPT5r1Xk/video.html they have small robots in their video, that's how you know they're cooool 🤙the early 2000s were a magical time lol
Absolutely great video,love how respectful u talked abt aspergers. I'm autistic (pddnos, a subtype similar to aspergers that now just falls under asd) and it's great to see it handled so nicely, you explained the struggles and importance of it but didnt use it to justify Nevadas actions.
am i the only one who just tried not to cry and teared up near the end of the video, when goose was saying how it doesn't make you weak to seek help? i've been diagnosed with adhd when i was just a baby if i remember correctly, even if that might not be severe, it's still something i don't like and it's something i can't get rid of. half the time, i get yelled at for my actions because of it, even though i can't help it. i cannot explain how nice it feels when any sort of disorder is recognized and seen by big people like youtubers, especially goose. thank you, goose. i really appreciate it, because even if my mom cannot pay for anything to get me help i always still refuse to get help because i'm scared people will mark me as weak for getting the help i want/need. thank you, goose. i really appreciate that you'd recognize these disorders people have and ask them to seek help for their own sake. i send my love and luck to you.
Aspergers seems to run in my family quite a bit. Coincidentally, every one in my family that has aspergers is a girl or was born a girl and later transitioned. Every single one of us has been violent, depressed, isolated, lonely and sometimes even suicidal before the age of 10 years old. We chameleon into society and because of that, we're expected to function as if we don't have aspergers. We spend most of our time hiding away in our rooms with the lights off, obsessing over a fictional world to help us escape the real world. We take years of exposure to an individual for us to eventually establish a friendship. We're labelled as violent and oppositional because we don't conform to societal boundaries that for the longest time, we didn't even know were there. We have a huge problem with processing painful emotions which causes us to hold on to personal tragedies that lead us into a deep, severe depression which make everything worse. We're labelled as unempathetic because we don't understand people, i think a better term would be disconnected, because people don't understand us either. Often we don't understand ourselves. Comorbid mental illnesses in women with aspergers is astonishingly high and the more their aspergers is unacknowledged and pressure is placed upon them, the worse it is for their development as a person.
Only got diagnosed with autism at 19 years old, couple months ago. And you pretty much described my adolescence. I like to think I had a pretty good childhood, definitely felt uneasy at school and stuff but I wasn't lonely, I had friends and spent some time with them. However, when they started entering puberty they kinda forgot about me and that's where all of the problems began. It sucks, I'm not gonna sugar coat it for you, but at least I guess there's some comfort in knowing you're not alone.
@@cthulhu7156 yeah I'm actually really glad to hear that they're diagnosing people past childhood now. It used to be only recognized in kids (because kids are naturally more forward with how they think and feel, so it's easier to detect, in many cases with autism they're NOT forward with how they think and feel so that also gives it away) which was extremely damaging to how autism was understood by professionals
@@backwardsbandit8094 Yeah I can tell that. Most people just thought I was extremely shy rather than autistic. Turns out I was. Mental health isn't exactly a very accepted topic where I'm from too (Portugal).
I have the same thing, its not too severe but if i think about a place like a waterpark or something my anxiety spikes up and I just cant do it. I cant leave my room for days.
If you're talking about the hikkikomori thing, a more proper term would be NEET or shut-in. Though yeah I guess most people who identify with that term suffer from agoraphobia. A study in Japan showed that a lot of hikkikomoris are on the autism spectrum as well.
These seem to be common cases among crimes in Japan, thinking of a more recent one was the "Tsundere" woman that murdered a man and seemed not to care being idolized, made hentai of, and was thought of as "empowering" for women. Though much of this can be chalked up as Bonnie and Clyde syndrome, plenty of people feel a disconnect from the real world when they can hide behind a screen. Hope the family of both children were atleast somewhat in the dark about the whole internet splurge.
She was actually labelled a "yandere", which is a name for an anime character who is so in love someone that they will kill for their love- usually in anime this is portrayed by the yandere character murdering/harming their love intrest's rivals. A tsundere is a different anime trope in which a character is cold to a love intrest, but over time slowly becomes more warm to said love intrest. The murderer previously took part in cosplay and did cosplay a yandere character, Toga from My Hero Academia, but whether this has a connection to what she did is unknown. Regardless, the fact that she cosplayed obviously sparked some curiosity in her by the anime community which also would explain why some anime fans took an intrest in the murderer and connected her to a trope in fiction.
As someone with Aspergers and ADHD, as well as shitty parents, I understand what she went through. Obviously what she did can't be forgiven, but I get it. I was obsessed, or the term for ADHD is hyper-fixated, on dark stuff just like her; I had dark thoughts, thoughts of self harm and suicide, and murder. I got help early on, so I never acted on those dark thoughts (well, self harm was later when depression developed) but I'm not sure where I would be if I hadn't gotten help. I grew up homeschooled until 7th grade, so I was glued to my computer for socialising for years, and before that just my siblings. It was very easy to just lock myself away and not talk to people. Public school was the best thing to ever happen to young me, I learned how to socialize; I struggle sometimes even today at 21, but I've made so much progress since then. I hope others like me, no matter where they are, can get help before something bad happens. The best and strongest thing you can do is get help, it's not weak to do so. It's okay to need help.
Other than the homeschool, toxic parents and relying on social media, I can relate to this on a huge level, I have a major obsession in dark media and sometimes have out right heinous thoughts (thankfully I'm good at suppressing them). I also am addicted to video games.
I have autism and ADHD as well. Can't say we lived the same kind of life but there are similarities. I had good parents, maybe too good, and they overprotected me a lot. I know they had their best interests at heart but it only made it more difficult for me to socialize in high school and I got bullied a lot for it and only managed to find 2 cool dudes to spend time with. Doesn't help that I got diagnosed pretty late so I never received help for growing up with it.
This is a great video, Goose. I was actually binging your videos when it came out. I always love listening to your personal perspective on these taboo or controversial topics. You come off as super wise to me and I admire you a lot, even if sometimes I disagree with what you have to say (not referring to this video). I love your content and I hope you keep making it!
This was fantastic. Lovingly researched and given thought - set up in a way that made sense. I appreciate the way you present your research. Thank you.
I feel bad for that girl. Not just the kid who got killed, but the kid that killed her, regretted it immensely, had to deal with a bunch of people idolizing her for doing something she regrets, and then living with all that regret for the rest of her life
I've never heard of this, but this event has implications globally. The drastic increase of shootings in the US for example. I'm not sure if anyone as young as Natsumi Tsuji has committed such a shooting but particularly in school shootings, I'm sure many of the attackers were younger people, and likely with mental issues.
Kris Brown I believe I saw that there was at least one shooting per day in the US in 2019, it’s possible that those shootings didn’t result in many fatalities but that’s still really bad.
@@Hardcrafter2807 I would need a source for that statistic. Most gun deaths are localized to gangs and crime related activities. Its possible that that number is divided per capita not actually per day.
Kris Brown Not sure what the number was per capita but 417 mass shootings in 2019 is an insane number. That number comes from the Gun Violence Archive, which defines a mass shooting as any event in which at least 4 people are shot, excluding the shooter. It’s enough shootings to have at least 1 per day, and if they didn’t occur daily it would at least imply that there were days where several shootings occurred.
This is an old video but hearing the Asperger's Syndome made me teary eyed. I have an older brother back in my home state with Asperger's and because of his area/interests/lack of time my parents have, he's usually on his own and uses the internet as an outlet. Just like I did growing up. I'm so glad I've been calling him twice a week to catch up. I miss him a lot. Thank you for this perspective.
I developed a little saying about murder after years of interest in true crime and deviant psychology. Barring extraneous circumstance, "If you think you're capable of murdering someone, you're correct. If you think you can handle the aftermath of murdering someone, you're delusional." I say this because (excluding people on the extreme end of deviance, and a few others) people seem to question whether others or themselves are capable of killing, and the answer, no matter who you are, is YES. Yes, we all are. *BUT that is not the same thing as being able to cope once you do kill. From the moment they die, you're in it, deep, and you'll never get out. Even if there's no remorse for the death, there's remorse for the repercussions, and so even people who don't feel guilty will suffer interminably, until they're executed or die in prison. This young girl is exemplary of that, and also of the global societal issue we have with making people actually understand physical violence and violent death, because we've made the world so safe that we don't really see much of that in real life. Sure, we see people get injured, we see fist fights, we see a little blood. But that actually intensifies the problem, because people with no reference for true violence and violent death assign those minor injuries and pain to the concept of violence/death they create around their own invented concept of what violent death is, that is therefore far, far removed from reality. To this misconception of violence and death, they add violence and death in media, all the depictions of violence and murder and death. And how realistic are those lol. The sprays of blood without the person dying, the ferocity of blows that make loud thwacking noises, people getting up and running after being shot, stabbed, beaten unconscious, people surviving absolutely ridiculous scenarios of disaster and injury, limbs being easily ripped off, other people being stabbed or shot once and falling to the floor dead, people dying from being strangled after 2 minutes, the everlasting life of FPS and martial arts combat games, it all adds to their very unrealistic idea of violence and death. You can hear many, many killers say the phrase, "It wasn't like it is in the movies" when discussing their crimes. How long it took, how tiring it was, how horrifying, traumatizing, self-destructive, awful, gory, unpleasant it was. How they didn't just fall to the ground. Stuff like that. That's my supporting evidence for my theory. So not understanding what violence and death really are, like this Girl A and her gross misunderstanding of the inherent fantasy of her dark media obsessions, these people only understand when it's too late. I've heard killers cry when they have to explain how many times they had to hit someone until they died, how horrific it was to have to keep doing it etc. There's no excuse, mind you, I do not believe people should be excused for their own actions, barring some sort of force placed upon them or brainwashing maybe, it's a grey area. But this straight up murder, none. So please don't take that from everything I'm saying, this is from a position of understanding psychology, and you cannot do that if you do not put everything but the killer aside and try to understand. It's our best way forward in terms of prevention. The fact that this young girl with Asperger's Syndrome had all but disconnected from reality into an extremely dark and dangerous fantasy life of glamorized violence and death horrifically killed someone in a similar way to her drawings, then stood there unmoving in shock, couldn't speak afterwards, and didn't even try to hide it, is not surprising to me in the least. Particularly because she had already tested the boundaries of threatening violence, and likely enjoyed the adrenaline rush and dopamine dump of power, and gotten away with it. I see a clear, straight path from A-Z here. So what we have here is an inherent dilemma; How do we properly impress upon the youth the truth about violence and death to educate our society and potentially prevent a sizeable chunk of violent crime and murder, without traumatizing anyone or inadvertently creating more violent criminals, to effectively change the society and close the gap between the concept and depictions of fictional violence and death and the reality of actual human on human violence and murder? It's a tough question. I've thought about it, and came up with various potential pathways, but they break down when extrapolated onto a universal method that could be applied on a large scale. They kind of rely upon individual assessment, and I'm painfully aware of the already shoestring budget schools operate on, so while they'd potentially be effective in one-on-one situations, I can't transform them into one-size-fits-all plans for implementation. I'm also painfully aware of the horrifying conditions far too many children are raised in, and so the idea of relying on parents to do it is also a no-go. That would miss the demographic of abused and neglected children, a group with a higher instance of crime later in life, which is kind of important. I'm not saying accomplishing my suggestion would eliminate these crimes. I'm not saying it would make this epic impact on the world. All I'm saying is that I have observed way too many cases where the killer(s) express their shock at the slamming together of fantasy and reality. Again, I'm only referring to this one group of people who don't understand the difference until they experience it, and then regret it immediately. Like it takes the death for it to click into place. I actually heard of a guy who killed his fiancée and then went online begging for someone to tell him how to time travel so he could go back and undo it. Girl A falls into this type too. These are the people I'm talking about. So, anyone have any ideas? Lol. I really think this is an important avenue to explore, especially as we've seen a dramatic rise in this detachment from reality and the fundamental lack of the ability to distinguish it from their fantasies/obsessions, and in crimes committed due to that, which include a lot of senseless murders. I'm just cognizant of the need for the idea to be effective even when extrapolated and standardized for mass deployment. I'm not getting paid for my work, this is literally all my personal thought and observations, I'm not even in this field of work. I just consume a lot of it and have these kinds of thoughts all the time. Might as well share one here, seeing as they just come and go in and out of my brain all the time, and who knows, maybe if I start doing this one will actually be useful one day lol.
I never knew about this. Man this issue has always polarized me... On one had I don't like telling people what they can and can't draw, but one the other hand it's appropriate to do so. I believe a good way to prevent more murders like this, is to not glamorize the killer and not make what they did seem like it's from a cool anime. It might make future girl A's think they can get attention or fame off of taking lives. I like myself some true crime every once in a while, but they lack of regard for the victim disgusts me... Furthermore, I think what Natsumi did was unforgivable and I'm not sympathizing with her, but her story touched a nerve with me. I have Asperger's as well, and when I was around her age I was in a similar position. I was very withdrawn, didn't have a lot of friends, I was bullied, and I went through a phase where I obsessed with gore, violence and murder. I idolized serial killers (real or not) because of the power they held over people. And I feel that if I hadn't gotten help I would have fallen further down that rabbit hole. And I feel the same with Natsumi. If people saw the red flags and acted accordingly, her friend would still be alive.
well, technicallyyyy, you are sympathizing with her. But that's ok, you are allowed to view the situation that way and see yourself in that situation. I'm glad you got help.
This is disgusting I feel bad for the girl who committed those crimes as someone with autism (Aspergers) it’s hard to forget about society and her likely being hyper fixated on gore and horror to the point she couldn’t distinguish it from life is truly sad how the internet seen as some creepy pasta and enabled her behaviour despite her being clearly traumatised from it as if her family and the victims family where all fictional.
This video was fantastic in all possible way; there was a very well done investigation, the presentation of the facts was incredible and the topic was treated with the respect it deserves. 10/10 in my book.
This is such a great video, it made me really think about myself because I also have Asperger's and scarily related to her condition, this video helped my brain out a lot. Thank you Goose Boose.
so, you're telling me that all i have to do is murder someone and i'll have a portion of the internet obsess over me in a really disgusting manner as if i did something grand ? golly, *why didn't you tell me sooner* ?
I vaguely remember stumbling around Girl A's alleged website. Wasn't particularly gory but certainly dark and creepy the way that only Japanese old school ASCII text can be. Man, I hadn't thought about this case for a long while and you shed a whole new light on things at the end. Hope everyone affected is doing well these days...
Coming from someone who lives in Reno, and lives close to the university, This is so weird seeing this little girl with the sweater, and even weirder that people started ordering the sweater just because of her
I did research into hikikomori in college and its pretty astounding how Japan as a whole is so against treating mental illness. Hikikomori is such a distinct problem in Japan and yet there is so little empirical research done on it, its sad. Parents would rather support the habit rather than get their kids treatment because of the high importance placed on image in Japan. They'd rather let their kids lives waste away in privacy than having their neighbors, friends, and co-workers find out their kid has a mental illness. Very sad. Glad that it seems to be getting better these last few years.
Being late on this video, i’ve been bing watching your channel because i love your personality. Otherwise id like to give my opinion/the ory as to why this crime might’ve happened. I have autism (asperger is outdated and its an old diagnostic but still valid) and i do relate to this girl in some way. I’ve been late diagnosed and honestly an early diagnosis could’ve prevented so many things.(especially in her case) I think she also had alexithymia(wich i struggle with too). Alexithymia is (idk what to category to call it honestly) the struggle of not being able to feel your feelings, or processing them way later than we should. I think that, since her special interest was related to gore or creepy stuff, she had a lot of intrusive toughts that went trough her mind(a special interest is characterised by an obsession with a subject, almost always having it in your mind and basically coping with it) and wasn’t teached that killing, gore, blood wasn’t a social normality(most people catch this on, but autistic people don’t understand social norms and if something is wrong or right unless told so)(ofc is no one gonna tell a kid not to kill lmao). She would’ve processed her frustration towards her bully, and most likely resorted to the only way she knew how to show frustration, like violence, meltdowns, shutdowns etc. I do pity her and i can see her in myself and how i used to be violent and i was having obsessive special interests that ruled my behaviours(glad it wasnt gore lmao), of course we can’t dignify her acts, i’m happy she actually got the help and learned from her mistakes. Killing someone is in no shape of form something to be forgiven from. And the weirdos who made fanfics and fanart with her are deliberately sick and disgusting, if you ever do that know that you’re part of the problem and could potentially encourage a murderer(and other people). Asperger/ autistic people are all different and might not struggle with these special interests as bad as other autistic/asperger people(it’s a really diverse spectrum). I just like informing people a bit about it, and i love that you did your research, I appreciate it a lot:D
It's so freaking weird that murderers get fame and a cult following... Like they know they may be harmed by these people and they are okay with that... Or that these people are innocent... Like no? Someone who is a homicidal maniac isn't just going to stop.
I remember when I was a really troubled little kid, I used to be exposed to lots of guro content and grooming from adults. I can't believe Nevada tan was someone I idolized. I'm glad that I've moved on from the people trying to corrupt my self image and reconnected with reality.
Damn if you're ever feeling down remember you never idolized a child murderer
mizo groov
Dam ... yeah I’ll do that
thats some low ass standard
you right
Oh noes internet is serious business
I've stanned the columbine shooters does it count??
Finding murderers and their backstories interesting is ok but making fanart and idolizing them is not. Imagine how the families of the victims would feel. Super insensitive
Is it okay to make a story inspired by it?
Poly Steve's wife and girlfriend depends, writing a horror story based of this with no name dropping? Yes, writing literal fanfiction? No
@@MsKimba18 that's not really what meant. Making something for fun based off the story is fine (depending on how you execute it)
@@stefan6347 yes! It's ok to write a story inspired by these kinds of things. Inspiration comes from anywhere. It's only a problem when it become fan fiction. Like the other person said.
How about just drawing a picture? Guess fanart that is but what if I just want to draw a picture of them but I don’t support the actions and I don’t idolize them in anyway but just find the story interesting and explain how their actions was horrible and sending best wishes to the family but still don’t condone their actions and not idolizing/romanticizing them. Sorry if this doesn’t make any sense
Seeing Chara and Girl A together gave me a really uncomfortable chill.
I wonder if some people don't even realize that Girl A is real.
I also despise the fact that the image is completely incorrect in terms of comparison. In Undertale, Chara never kills anyone. All the deaths caused in the Genocide Run were caused by you, the player. They simply finished your hard work by erasing the world. Girl A on the other hand, voluntarily killed someone out of spite, and was entirely aware of her actions. Doesn’t help that unlike Chara, she’s real.
@@samuelgarza2466 yeah that too
Exactly . Dont put a worn out game character with a child murderer. She also my favorite character smdh.
this kinda disrespectful in some way to me, like the bitch ain’t cute as Chara. get her ass OUT
It shocked me to think that a game character so recent was posed together with a real life murder who committed a crime over 10 years ago. The sinking feeling came when I realized that people out there are still circulating this version of a person who did something horrible and who regrets it to this day
Imagine people making fan art of your murdered child. Do weebs not realize Japanese people are not just cute anime characters, they’re real people.
THIS! THIS 100%
When I first heard about how she felt remorse for the killing I felt bad enough, imagine people rubbing it in your face for the rest of your life
@@veryexciteddog963 I'm not saying that people aren't overdoing it with this case, but if you murder a human being you kind of deserve to be reminded of that the rest of your life. And that's not "rubbing it in her face"-she killed someone.
some weebs do i think
I don't know why you just blame the weebs fantasizing Japan when this literally got big in Japan. You know, from Japanese people doing it. The west didn't even know about it until after.
It's not "the weebs", it's serial killer fantasizers, and every country has them.
I hate people who glorify killers. It's disgusting.
yah bro so grosss ewwwww ewwwyyyyyyyyyy uwuwuuwuwuwuu grodyyy cooties
Memes have no exception
BOI we always glorify killers. We love violence but we never confessed it in our lives
brian timothy That’s not an excuse
SHINIGAMI XIII so unfunny go back to your rat hole
People adoring and obsessing over killers is disgusting. Girl A’s story is really tragic and heartbreaking and it’s sad that people turned it into some type of weird murder fetish and obsess over what could of possibly been what caused Girl A to do what she did I’ll never get Murder worship and Murder Romanticization
Kinda like how the media glorifies school shootings, causing more school shootings in America. People are shitty
I hate when people romanticize true crime
I would go so far as to say it’s despicable
I'm all for edgy memes and Dark humor but its fucking weird when people straight stan murderer's
RooST and there are people that fangirl/fanboy over school shooters, it’s disturbing and gross. I can’t understand why people have “crushes” over school shooters
Girl A: * Stays in shock, feels extreme guilt, walks towards a teacher in order to be taken to the police *
Weirdos in the internet: * Draw her smiling with blood and enjoying killing *
I'd like to address the issue of you saying Autism/Aspergers being a mental health illness. It's not. It's a neurological disorder. There's a HUGE difference between mental and neurological problems. For example: depression is a mental health disorder. Dementia is a neurological disorder. See the difference?
Anyway, just wanted to put that out there.
yes, finally
Asbergers and autism are developmental disorders, which are still classified as mental disorders. Please don't apply an inherently bad tone to mental disorders.
As someone’s who is autistic, yes thank u
ok
yes and ADHD along with that! you can have symptoms of ADHD/autism that are mental illnesses (anxiety being a huge one, depression, or Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria for adhd specifically) but it drives me crazy when ppl just categorize them as mental illnesses. that’s the kind of thinking that keeps neurodivergent kids from getting special accommodations in school for their disabilities :( (And obvs ppl with mental health issues need help too! but it’s just a different thing)
This reminds me of the time ppl who started romanticing the real life yandere girl who stabbed her boyfriend and ppl wanted her to be let free because she was cute looking and yandere like its sickening to see ppl drawing Nevada tan and influencing her actions
Yes, but why abbreviate "people". What if you forget how to spell it.
@@rodolfocrespo4840 This is not the topic of the comment, grammar nazi.
I don't get how people think stuff like, "Hey, let me draw someone who attempted to murder someone, it doesn't matter if they tried to kill someone, they look cute so who cares?" I don't get their way of thinking, they're always like, "OmG yanDeRE QUeEn!" It annoys me so much, both that case, and this case, and every person who romantisies murderers, criminals, people like that.
Who was this? This sounds familiar but I can't put a name to the face
@@raineyes8305 she stabbed her boyfriend and got arrested and she blew up for looking cute and yandere like and ppl were making a petition for her to be let free because she was adorable she had tons of fanart and ppl were justifying her actions as something good and ppl classified her as a real life yandere-chan
((Correct me if im wrong))
everyone thinks about "Girl A" but they never think about "Victim".
because solving the problem of Girl A can help prevent future victims
Because messed up people like to idolize murderers. For some reason, its seen as cool or quirky in their eyes and not an actually serious crime.
Because "victim" doesn't have much to it
People always ask who is girl A,but never how is girl A
In my eyes. We need to dig up everything about the killer so we can learn to counteract similar evils later on. We have to morn the victim after when the first situation and when our hearts aren’t caught up with the evils still. It seems harsh but it provides more closure, almost like a better send off. In a way it’s almost poetic how dark and sad it is
As a cosplayer, we don't claim the people who cosplayed girl A.
good
Cospayer
@ulysses I mean we don’t as a group condone their actions ya know?
Yeah.
Btw I live your profile pic
Rin is awesome
*cosplayer
*>Tfw artists of some of those pictures have actual talent but they're wasting it on romanticizing a child murderer*
I am genuinely terrified of thinking just what goes through these people's heads sometimes.
People always forget about the victim's family when making memes or news stories
I don't think they forget, most people just don't care.
Di cks
Exactly, but one thing is, *WHY DO THEY DRAW ART FOR THEM* , why spend HOURS drawing an art piece of A CRIMINAL
@@Mawfet and that is wrong because? Art is whatever inspires you. If that happens to come from a dark place, why is that wrong? I could ask the inverse of that. If I show you a beautiful piece that you would enjoy, then afterwards I tell you that it's a painting by the worst person you can imagine. You would obviously feel some type of way.
All I'm saying is that art should be free. If you're asking the morals involved then that's your answer, people have different morals and priorities that you do. Asking why is too general of a question because someone can come up with hundreds of justifications to answer why.
@@SoraJack both of you are in the wrong
Why do people draw fan art of her wtf
It's a classic case of idolizing murderers, along the lines of the Columbine shooters, Ted Bundy, etc.
It's partly murder fetishism (the Japan side) mixed with the rise of yandere, tsundere, etc. (The US side). As far as half the people at the time knew she was just some generic steryotpical yandere. That was until more people (who knew Japanese) started researching the Japan side of things more and found out about the murder.
Moss sword because some people are screwed up.
Remember, there are serial killer coloring books.
Yoshikage Kira ironic...
Because people are crazy
I cried when he talked about her talking about her Asperger's. I have Asperger's myself, along with many other mental disorders. It hurts so bad to have to suffer something so discreet yet so life-altering and life destroying. Very few people can truly help us with Asperger's.
I'm not excusing Natsumi's crime. Not at all. I just really sympathized with that. It hurts, and it's so hard. I wish Natsumi could've gotten help sooner and was able to control herself enough to not do such an inexcusable thing.
Also, I need to say that people on the autism spectrum have a problem with TOO MUCH empathy. We have so much that we shut down because of the intense barrage of the sense of emotions we can sense from others around us. We don't know how to deal with all of that at once.
I also have asperger's and I struggle with a lot of self-hatred because, people call me names for my obsessions/infatuations the things I am obsessed with particularly people and obviously some of these comments on here reminded me of the fact that I am truly alone and a bad person :( Just all because of something I can't help :'(
When I get overwhelmed I have a meltdown and I scream and cry loudly.
Yo, shut the fuck up
@@ramonpablito9154 no ❤
@@ramonpablito9154 Really? Are really that serious?
@@solocomics1820 English?
"...while these criminals have never been made into cosplays or loli girls..." man, you're in for a surprise
Don't show him. It's better off he not know
Did someone really- cosplay- this girl- I- it’s a under exaggeration to say I’m disappointed
multiple people... h
Please type like a normal person 😌👍🏾
swifty stabs why does it matter they are trying making it look like they are shocked
@@Chaki_namicos its fucking stupid
@@xiscaw so is cosplaying a murder but you aren't commenting about that are you
I was never aware of this meme
What is this meme?
Meme doesn't always mean "joke"
the word meme actually means something that's spread around repeatedly.
@@maxskellington910 I got it,
thanks
@@Delsin42 Nevada Tan
probably because this happened in the early 2000s
This meme is basically a disgrace to the victim and her family
8:46 They even did a fanart about Chara with a real life murderer. I-
I'm actually really pissed because of that
There's a great manga series called "With the Light," about a Japanese child with autism that goes into a lot of the cultural and social side of Japanese life and how autism is viewed there. It's a little older now, so some things might be out of date, but it's touching story.
Asuperu Kanojo is another manga that is very similar in that regard, although it focuses on the romantic side of things, living alongside individuals considered as outcasts and freaks in contemporary Japanese society. It's probably my favorite romance manga of last decade, so definitely read it while you have the chance.
Ty I'll read those 2
I read that manga a million years ago. lol I remember liking it.
The thing she did was horrible and there is no disputing that, but I'm glad she was able to turn her life around
Same. The only thing one can do after committing something so horrible is to ensure they’ll never do it again, and improving as a person is a respectable way to do that.
@@megmorgan21421 Right, but it can't be easy for the loved ones of the murder victim to see the murderer get to live a long, happy life after cutting the victim's life short.
@@JollyJuiice honestly the friend deserved a happy life, not her
@@kimyonasqd8690 The friend was a bully. Had she survived, Girl A wouldnt have done anything wrong.
@@JohnathanJWells exactly, I'm pretty sure murder rules out bullying
There's a huge difference between gore art/vent art and gore fetishasion.
8:46 THATS RECENT IM ABOUT TO THROW HANDS
Its disgusting she has a fandom. People need to learn how to empathise, to consider the effect of their actions.
I'm glad her life is back on track though. It's not often that people manage to deal with the past.
So many killers have fandoms. You would be supürised how messed up people are.
Would be nice if you could say that about the girl that she murdered. But you can't. Her whole life was stolen from her and the person who did it gets nothing but protection and sympathy.
@@cyan5260 I did not know the girl she murdered personally. I do not know her family
I have no right to speak about her, or what ifs.
Let the dead rest.
Cyan the girl she murdered bullied her a lot and she got angry and lashed out because she was mentally unstable. She turned her life around after and regretted what she did and thats a positive thing out of a sad situation
@@cyan5260 And several years of institutionalization. Convenient to forget that, eh? To not give the (bare minimum) protections to a child would be massively unethical. Also, no one is sympathizing with the murderer's actions. Rather, people are empathizing with the fact that one girl lost her life and the other was put in a position to take life because she was a young, emotionally-unintelligent girl with a neurological disorder that greatly affects social-emotional behavior -- in a society that does little (if anything) to help these children deal with said social-emotional issues and maladaptive behaviors. Shit reads like a Greek tragedy.
The entire time I was sat here thinking, what if my daughter had been killed. And to know all that happened in that amount of detail.. I don’t think I could live anymore.
and the fact that the whole internet was obsessing and sometimes even fetishizing the killer of my child...wow, it would be so difficult.
I know. First of all, fetishized a young murderer. Three words that should never be together. “Fetishized young murderer”.
Second, why does she have a fan base, let alone even anybody who likes her? I’m glad she got her life together and all but damn, she took someone’s life.
R.i.p.
As someone who has Asperger’s, watching this was a bit ... painful; it’s not something that you can really notice in me, at least not right off the bat, because I’m higher functioning and had interventions at an early age. It still really hurts sometimes and even though there are a lot of positives, it has hindered my math and social skills...for a long time a lot of my peers thought I was dumb. Well, I thought I was dumb, for sure. But my main point is, a lot of people associate Asperger’s with lacking empathy and being weird and sus, so this all just really hurt to see because it certainly doesn’t help things. Thank you for going into the topic of Asperger’s at the end of this video, you are very mature and comforting when it comes to the topic of mental health. Yes, Asperger’s a lot of the time comes with anxiety and depression due to social stress but...it isn’t what defines us.
hey. i just started therapy for terrible anxiety and depression. your entire video is actually darkly beautiful, and overall a really horrible situation. but what you said at the end really struck a nerve with me. you handled this topic beautifully
Tbh something in me snapped when I saw that art with chara from undertale and her
It just felt so disrespectful
miistann
I was about to cry... ONES A VIDEO GAME CHARACTER ONES A REAL FUCKING MURDERER...
0f Bvi a video game character that was the antagonist and wasn’t supposed to be glorified might I add.
I just whispered to my self *what the fuck?*
curlyemmm 123
Yes, Yes!
@@curlyemmm1232 still, glorify fiction if you must, but keep it away from real life
As an artist, this puts me uneasy, makes me question the hole ideal of being an artist, these people make me sick.
@Ghostly pie these people don’t represent artists They waste their talent To make real life killers look cool instead of using it in a way that would benefit everyone including Themselves
That’s the thing about being an artist, as I’d know. There are an infinite number of ways that it can be used, and how you use it is entirely up to you.
What is your art page, if you don’t mind me asking?
Did you draw your profile picture? Because it looks really good! I'm trying get into art, I'm looking for a good art style that suits me.
Looking at this from outside, all I can really see is a tragedy.
We can blame whoever we want, but in the end, this was about a child dying a horrific death at the hands of another child lashing out at the world around her. It's okay to feel pity for Girl A. It's NOT okay to glamorize her and turn her into a fucking yandere loli meme.
The best we can do is try to prevent anything like this from happening again.
I love guro, true crime, and everything awful, but I could never EVER imagine idolizing and romanticizing a psychologically damaged child murderer.
Eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww guro enjoyer
Alright bring out the Hazmat suits
then seek help mate
Do you... *enjoy* gore? That's what I thought guro means maybe I'm wrong.
@@dale_fan99 It’s worse
Once again, proving that humanity is obsessed with murderers and violence
I'm not exempting myself from that either
An obsession with death is what made us survive as a species in the first place.
Can't exactly "delete" your instincts.
well yes. we love to expose ourselves to stuff we fear. that's why people go on rollercoasters and watch horror movies (even the ones that aren't violent)...
if you see, read or hear something awful and then remind yourself that you yourself are not in danger, that gives you a feeling of relief and relief is a good feeling.
so you watch a horror movie and in the moment you are scared to death... in the next you remind yourself that "oh I'm just on my sofa looking at a screen" and you are relieved, and the adrenaline from the scare also gives you a high.
it's not very complicated really
@@kevboard Something about adrenaline, isn't it?
Exposing yourself to your fears and then "coming back alive" is a satisfying feeling.
it's entertaining as hell though
The injustice for the victim and her family reminds me of Junko Furuta’s torturers/murderers not facing charges due to them being teens and not yet adults.
That is a terrible comparison. Not to say that both aren't terrible crimes but Junko was brutally tortured by a group of boys because she rejected one of them to the murder of a bully, the killer being someone who was clearly mentally ill and was actually sorry for what theu did.
Again I'm not excusing girl A's actions and both murders are sad but comparing both as equally unjust makes no sense to me
Never No Rest i made the original comment because Junko Furuta’s death was still fresh in my mind, but reading over it now, i’ve just realized how insensitive it may be.
Not to mention those boys are now getting protected by yakuza
@Aileen Duenas basically aspergers is a neurological disorder, which serious disorders such as dementia are classified as.
omfg. She was referred to as GIRL A and now I realize why there was a yandere-like mobile game called “GIRL A”
- Aangiee - I used to play that game
I want to die
Vermin Meridas u good?
@@-aangiee-9668 Yandere Simulator rip off with references to a child killer is something that I thought I wouldve never been able to say and or hear about
There is nothing good in our future
Pretty crazy how Japan handles the suspects in cases like this, protecting them to the point that withing 5 years they have a different identity and live a normal life without incident afterwards.
A case like this here would create a hardened criminal in prison that could never live a normal life, if they're ever released to begin with
There’s always the firing squad
i really dont understand the "killer adoration" culture people have. Tho as long as they just "adore" and not do anything harmful to themselves, or other people then whatever.
Maybe it's just me but I find a morbid fascination in myself towards murderers and there stories. However I agree I don't understand some people who adore Ted Bundy or the Colombine shooters. And from what I've seen for the most part it's just harmless but you are correct that they need to watch themselves before that adoration turns into a motive
I have a hate boner for murderers tbh.
Like, I just absolutely hate their guts more than a normal person should.
@@JollyJuiice Me too, I don't understand how another person can just, DO THAT, they might have mental illnesses but I don't have any so I legit do not understand, it gets me all riled up
It's true freedom. Imagine going against the rules of society itself.
@@cyberruck Yeah, by ending someone else's ability to do the same. forever.
I had a friend a long time ago with really intense aspergers. She was a fantastic friend, an absolute joy to hang out and play video games with, and she definitely did have some obsessions and strange tendencies, but the most notable part of her aspergers was that when there was something she didn't like, or she felt overstimulated (hearing whistling, getting in an argument, too much energy etc.) she would have a sudden physical outburst. This could've been throwing something, throwing her hands about in anger or just straight up hitting me (this is sort of why we're not friends anymore). She told me that she never thought about why hitting someone when you're angry could be bad, or that she couldn't see when she was going too far. She wasn't an angry person, but because her parents, or anyone else, never taught her boundaries, or how to deal with intense emotions she had, her outlet just happened to be physical.
Now, I'm not excusing a criminal here. But she was a child. Someone who clearly felt alienated and alone and had no control whatsoever, and that was amplified because in Japan, not a single person talks about autism, mental health, or anything of the like. There was no way for her to understand herself because there's only one model example for children there.
So yes; if that little girl had gotten help or guidance before, this wouldn't have happened. People with aspergers aren't psychopaths or murderers, but when they aren't helped through the difference in thought patterns, it can become a real struggle.
I feel nothing but pain for both sides, and I truly, truly hope that Japan changes it's attitude towards mental health. It is SO. IMPORTANT.
I 100% agree with you dude
I have Asperger's also and when I get overwhelmed I have a meltdown - basically I just need to scream and cry. Loudly. And I don't stop. I can't stop. Because it feels like hell
i have autism as well (used to be aspergers but things changed), and i never truly understood physical boundaries until i was in 5th grade because nobody explicitly told me whats okay and not okay. i used to just hug people without asking and my best friend at the time told me that sometimes she didnt want hugs, and i needed to respect her boundaries and such. that opened my eyes and ever since then ive always asked people before i give hugs if i even do.
I've been pondering over the last 5 minutes over what should I comment about, but I can't quite translate my feelings into words, I'm just glad this video exists, specially the part about her struggles and her medical condition. As someone with Asperger's I really think today's society should focus more on mental health, and... Ah whatever no one's gonna read this comment, just know that this video is great, mental health is important, and no matter who you are or what problems you are facing, you will be able to live a normal, happy life
I think the worst thing about having aspergers/asd is the "stereotype residue". it's not exactly the stereotype itself but characteristics of it that are so deep buried in people's minds that are already common to expect, like the pressure on having good grades or a "special talent" (as if every aspie/autistic person needs to be a prodigy) when in reality all we want is to live normally and not in the spotlight
I cant imagine being the parent of the girl who was killed and seeing fanart made of their child's murderer, even fan art of the actual EVENT. The level of degeneracy you would have to be at to idolize and make a meme out of a murder is unfathomable to me
ya know..
this made me remember of where people did the exact same thing where they were sorta fetishing a women who was also in japan who murdered a man at a train station, theres video of it out there so go look it up for yourself to understand
yuka takaoka or whatever her name is? if so, then yea, that case gets me really angry, people are calling her a yandere quee n and THERE ARE FAN ACCOUNTS, I really hate people who do that harmful crap
@@Mawfet i know man, i was in the huge drama of where horny twitter accs constantly made art of her, hell even some suggestive work its that crazy
Imagine you are the parent of the boy that got stabbed and you see that people are idolizing the girl that killed your son. Smh that's just fucked up yo
This is just disgusting. Girl A does not deserve this. Both in terms of the cult following, and the not being able to apologize to the family. I cannot begin to comprehend how she feels.
If the family doesn't want to talk then she probably shouldn't.
Idk she kinda does
The cult following is fucked up, but she deserves the other shit she got. She killed a YOUNG FUCKING GIRL FOR NO GOOD REASON. Mental illness doesn't change what she did. The girl should've been locked up for MUCH longer than she was and even tried as a fucking adult.
How *she* feels? I can’t imagine how the family feels, the murderer of their child got only 4 years of time and a new identity in order to protect her. The victim’s family didn’t catch a single break from the media and weren’t even allowed to have a moment of peace.
I mean, she did murder someone. She kinda deserve this, I think she deserves more even. The family DID NOT deserve all this. Bullying and mental illness doesn't excuse anyone from doing a crime. How many people do you think have mental illness and are bullied and how many of them turned into a murderer? The government are disgusting, society is disgusting. They're protecting a fricking murderer so she could live safely? The victim's family doesn't even have the peace to grief for their loss! That's fucked up. How many sick people even like this comment
People have cosplayed Ted Bundy, Albert Fish and others. It was always there
Okay been kinda binging your videos so ignore my multiple comments but this video was fantastically done and your words at the end were great. It touched me how this one turned out. Great job 👍👌
Even children commit disgusting and violent crimes, and people shouldn’t romanticize it. (Romanticize it as referring to fascinating over it and using it for their own pleasure, interpret that how you may.)
This is like people fangirling over Jeffery Dahmer. Now, yes, people already do that, but that is not the point. To appreciate a murderer and to meme a murderer is to bring light to a sick/hurt individual.
Fucking gross. Anyone who’d ever choose to “like” a murderer, especially a minor murderer, is fucked in the head and can eat shit.
There are even whackos that romanticize what the Columbine killers did. I don't know who it was off the top of my head, but someone did a whole video about True Crime obsession and it was fascinating.
Exactly, and I guarantee, give it a few years time and there will be people praising the perpetrators of recent tragedies. I'd wholeheartedly argue that the people who praise these killers are almost just as bad. If someone hears the details of these events and isn't at all put off and instead starts putting the killer up on a pedestal, I'd say they're a pretty messed up individual and that they should probably be monitored as it wouldn't be too far off for that person to also do something horrific. I'd like to give humanity the benefit of the doubt and say this isn't going to be the case but with how many people are on this planet, there's always going to be at least one scumbag.
exactly, just because a serial killer is young doesn't mean they're innocent, they may have a mental illness
Man this is what loneliness does to some people
@@chachies695 You're absolutely right, and it's so sad to see.
This went from scary to sad to heartwarming so strangely, but so nicely
I remember being in middle school and being obsessed with reading about serial killers and murders. Not a phase I'm too proud about but I remember stumbling upon this case and getting so invested in what happened and the meme. I never participated in it but was just kinda curious. Eventually I read everything I could find and moved along (this was before she got out). Its so nice having an ending to this story even if it may not be true
I love your channel! It's great and I love to know about cases, wired happenings, etc, but most likely the cases.
"We live in a Nevada."
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We live in Nevada- Nevadians
"we live" -people who are alive
"W"- letter of the alphabet
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this is kinda like a japanese version of the slenderman stabbings
Crying Cat
O shit
yes, and sadly, this one ended in a little girl actually dying. thank goodness the victim of the slenderman stabbings survived.
@Carly Klein She Definitely wouldn’t have survived if she didn’t have the strength To crawl Out of the huge forest
Fares Alsayed The Slenderman stabbing is more similar to the Zoro Chan case where this girl with suicidal thoughts live streamed so that she could be a legend and some horrible ppl decided to tell her if she jumped off a building she’d become a legend which she ended up doing and she died
@@Michael-xz1gg oh I remember roro cha I still miss her :(
This is such a well-rounded and insightful video, this case definitely has many layers, my condolences go out to the victim's family
I’d I feel both sides
On one hand you have a murder who killed a little girl
On the other you had an unstable kid who was confused
What they did wasn’t right undoubtedly wrong but Idk
I knew about the murder but I had no idea it became a meme. People are honestly disgusting- this is almost worse than the Ted Bundy fetishizers
意地悪ちゃん Even Ted Bundy said that his fans scare him
candyjizz wait seriously? Did a fandom actually scare an actual murder?!
Midnight Star productions they’d probably eat him
@@Floppy1932 I think they would do worse
@@midnightartist43 Bruh, murderers are still human so of course they scared him.
spooky video time
Edit: turns out it was sad video time
Oh no
That's J horror for ya, huh?
i'm sorry but the edit to the comment kinda cracked me up
I'm so sorry for you being bamboozled, b ( I don't know how the do that symbol )
These are my favorite type of videos by goose. Rationally speaking about an interesting topic with calm music in the background.
11:32 why the 4th tweet is in Russian? It says "Stop following me (on twitter)" btw
there was a german numetal band back in the day called Nevada-Tan (they had to rename themselves to "Panik!" because of issues with the old lable)
the band was composed of like 4 teenagers, so "edgy" not only because of their name 🤣 they even had like 3 pretty big hits back then.
the biggest hit was "Revolution"
which literally starts with the words "Fickt euch!" (Fuck You! [plural])
Oh gosh
@@Mawfet czcams.com/video/mawzPT5r1Xk/video.html
they have small robots in their video, that's how you know they're cooool 🤙the early 2000s were a magical time lol
Never heard of them. I guess they wre a niche.
Absolutely great video,love how respectful u talked abt aspergers. I'm autistic (pddnos, a subtype similar to aspergers that now just falls under asd)
and it's great to see it handled so nicely, you explained the struggles and importance of it but didnt use it to justify Nevadas actions.
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am i the only one who just tried not to cry and teared up near the end of the video, when goose was saying how it doesn't make you weak to seek help? i've been diagnosed with adhd when i was just a baby if i remember correctly, even if that might not be severe, it's still something i don't like and it's something i can't get rid of. half the time, i get yelled at for my actions because of it, even though i can't help it. i cannot explain how nice it feels when any sort of disorder is recognized and seen by big people like youtubers, especially goose. thank you, goose. i really appreciate it, because even if my mom cannot pay for anything to get me help i always still refuse to get help because i'm scared people will mark me as weak for getting the help i want/need. thank you, goose. i really appreciate that you'd recognize these disorders people have and ask them to seek help for their own sake. i send my love and luck to you.
This was touching and very respectful. Thank you for covering this case.
Aspergers seems to run in my family quite a bit. Coincidentally, every one in my family that has aspergers is a girl or was born a girl and later transitioned. Every single one of us has been violent, depressed, isolated, lonely and sometimes even suicidal before the age of 10 years old. We chameleon into society and because of that, we're expected to function as if we don't have aspergers. We spend most of our time hiding away in our rooms with the lights off, obsessing over a fictional world to help us escape the real world. We take years of exposure to an individual for us to eventually establish a friendship. We're labelled as violent and oppositional because we don't conform to societal boundaries that for the longest time, we didn't even know were there. We have a huge problem with processing painful emotions which causes us to hold on to personal tragedies that lead us into a deep, severe depression which make everything worse. We're labelled as unempathetic because we don't understand people, i think a better term would be disconnected, because people don't understand us either. Often we don't understand ourselves. Comorbid mental illnesses in women with aspergers is astonishingly high and the more their aspergers is unacknowledged and pressure is placed upon them, the worse it is for their development as a person.
I was diagnosed with asperger's at age 7
Only got diagnosed with autism at 19 years old, couple months ago. And you pretty much described my adolescence. I like to think I had a pretty good childhood, definitely felt uneasy at school and stuff but I wasn't lonely, I had friends and spent some time with them. However, when they started entering puberty they kinda forgot about me and that's where all of the problems began. It sucks, I'm not gonna sugar coat it for you, but at least I guess there's some comfort in knowing you're not alone.
@@cthulhu7156 yeah I'm actually really glad to hear that they're diagnosing people past childhood now. It used to be only recognized in kids (because kids are naturally more forward with how they think and feel, so it's easier to detect, in many cases with autism they're NOT forward with how they think and feel so that also gives it away) which was extremely damaging to how autism was understood by professionals
@@backwardsbandit8094 Yeah I can tell that. Most people just thought I was extremely shy rather than autistic. Turns out I was. Mental health isn't exactly a very accepted topic where I'm from too (Portugal).
Very respectful and tactful of the subject material. Kudos
The way you presented this piece was beautiful, thank you for this video
God I love video essays like these, please do more
I suffer from agoraphobia. Probably the closest Western world term for that
I don't think it's the same, tho
@@RicaumDelas agoraphobia disorder is the fear of anxiety itself causing one to become scared enough to get stuck inside their house
I have the same thing, its not too severe but if i think about a place like a waterpark or something my anxiety spikes up and I just cant do it. I cant leave my room for days.
If you're talking about the hikkikomori thing, a more proper term would be NEET or shut-in. Though yeah I guess most people who identify with that term suffer from agoraphobia. A study in Japan showed that a lot of hikkikomoris are on the autism spectrum as well.
These seem to be common cases among crimes in Japan, thinking of a more recent one was the "Tsundere" woman that murdered a man and seemed not to care being idolized, made hentai of, and was thought of as "empowering" for women. Though much of this can be chalked up as Bonnie and Clyde syndrome, plenty of people feel a disconnect from the real world when they can hide behind a screen. Hope the family of both children were atleast somewhat in the dark about the whole internet splurge.
She was actually labelled a "yandere", which is a name for an anime character who is so in love someone that they will kill for their love- usually in anime this is portrayed by the yandere character murdering/harming their love intrest's rivals. A tsundere is a different anime trope in which a character is cold to a love intrest, but over time slowly becomes more warm to said love intrest.
The murderer previously took part in cosplay and did cosplay a yandere character, Toga from My Hero Academia, but whether this has a connection to what she did is unknown. Regardless, the fact that she cosplayed obviously sparked some curiosity in her by the anime community which also would explain why some anime fans took an intrest in the murderer and connected her to a trope in fiction.
Not tsundere is personallity is
actually sweet and meeam and aggressive
@@OnnaBlade please tell me you are joking
@@hunterprt1274 i'm joking sorry
Thank you
I remember hearing this story on passing but never realized how deep it went, so im glad you talked about it
This is a really well-made video. You just earned a sub my guy
As someone with Aspergers and ADHD, as well as shitty parents, I understand what she went through. Obviously what she did can't be forgiven, but I get it. I was obsessed, or the term for ADHD is hyper-fixated, on dark stuff just like her; I had dark thoughts, thoughts of self harm and suicide, and murder. I got help early on, so I never acted on those dark thoughts (well, self harm was later when depression developed) but I'm not sure where I would be if I hadn't gotten help.
I grew up homeschooled until 7th grade, so I was glued to my computer for socialising for years, and before that just my siblings. It was very easy to just lock myself away and not talk to people. Public school was the best thing to ever happen to young me, I learned how to socialize; I struggle sometimes even today at 21, but I've made so much progress since then.
I hope others like me, no matter where they are, can get help before something bad happens. The best and strongest thing you can do is get help, it's not weak to do so. It's okay to need help.
Other than the homeschool, toxic parents and relying on social media, I can relate to this on a huge level, I have a major obsession in dark media and sometimes have out right heinous thoughts (thankfully I'm good at suppressing them). I also am addicted to video games.
I have autism and ADHD as well. Can't say we lived the same kind of life but there are similarities. I had good parents, maybe too good, and they overprotected me a lot. I know they had their best interests at heart but it only made it more difficult for me to socialize in high school and I got bullied a lot for it and only managed to find 2 cool dudes to spend time with. Doesn't help that I got diagnosed pretty late so I never received help for growing up with it.
This is a great video, Goose. I was actually binging your videos when it came out. I always love listening to your personal perspective on these taboo or controversial topics. You come off as super wise to me and I admire you a lot, even if sometimes I disagree with what you have to say (not referring to this video). I love your content and I hope you keep making it!
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This was such a fascinating video and I remember hearing about this tragic story. Great job!
R.I.P to the girl that was a victim of this horrible crime 😢💖may her soul rest easy, my condolences go to the family 💖
Start taking it seriously and stop using emojis
@@Sturm_- I was...
NVAgames shut up
@@iminsideyourwaIls i didnt even say anything mean so no
@@Sturm_- you're being mean to someone just because he used emojis dude what the hell is wrong with you lol
That thumbnail triggered my fight or flight response
Deadass same ;')
It's 5am and I need a hug now
Same-
The thumbnail makes me wanna cry and die
@@BN-jl5kq super late but here's a hug for u 🫂
This was fantastic. Lovingly researched and given thought - set up in a way that made sense. I appreciate the way you present your research. Thank you.
I feel bad for that girl. Not just the kid who got killed, but the kid that killed her, regretted it immensely, had to deal with a bunch of people idolizing her for doing something she regrets, and then living with all that regret for the rest of her life
I knew that there was more to this story than is usally shown with the memes great video dude 🙂
I've never heard of this, but this event has implications globally. The drastic increase of shootings in the US for example. I'm not sure if anyone as young as Natsumi Tsuji has committed such a shooting but particularly in school shootings, I'm sure many of the attackers were younger people, and likely with mental issues.
It's way harder to do a shooting than here in merica. lol
There are actually a lot less random killings in America than there ever has been. Its just publicized more.
Kris Brown I believe I saw that there was at least one shooting per day in the US in 2019, it’s possible that those shootings didn’t result in many fatalities but that’s still really bad.
@@Hardcrafter2807 I would need a source for that statistic. Most gun deaths are localized to gangs and crime related activities. Its possible that that number is divided per capita not actually per day.
Kris Brown Not sure what the number was per capita but 417 mass shootings in 2019 is an insane number. That number comes from the Gun Violence Archive, which defines a mass shooting as any event in which at least 4 people are shot, excluding the shooter. It’s enough shootings to have at least 1 per day, and if they didn’t occur daily it would at least imply that there were days where several shootings occurred.
Crimes. Crimes are being committed. God help us.
Do u use Pinterest?
This is an old video but hearing the Asperger's Syndome made me teary eyed. I have an older brother back in my home state with Asperger's and because of his area/interests/lack of time my parents have, he's usually on his own and uses the internet as an outlet. Just like I did growing up. I'm so glad I've been calling him twice a week to catch up. I miss him a lot. Thank you for this perspective.
I developed a little saying about murder after years of interest in true crime and deviant psychology. Barring extraneous circumstance, "If you think you're capable of murdering someone, you're correct. If you think you can handle the aftermath of murdering someone, you're delusional." I say this because (excluding people on the extreme end of deviance, and a few others) people seem to question whether others or themselves are capable of killing, and the answer, no matter who you are, is YES. Yes, we all are. *BUT that is not the same thing as being able to cope once you do kill. From the moment they die, you're in it, deep, and you'll never get out. Even if there's no remorse for the death, there's remorse for the repercussions, and so even people who don't feel guilty will suffer interminably, until they're executed or die in prison.
This young girl is exemplary of that, and also of the global societal issue we have with making people actually understand physical violence and violent death, because we've made the world so safe that we don't really see much of that in real life. Sure, we see people get injured, we see fist fights, we see a little blood. But that actually intensifies the problem, because people with no reference for true violence and violent death assign those minor injuries and pain to the concept of violence/death they create around their own invented concept of what violent death is, that is therefore far, far removed from reality. To this misconception of violence and death, they add violence and death in media, all the depictions of violence and murder and death. And how realistic are those lol. The sprays of blood without the person dying, the ferocity of blows that make loud thwacking noises, people getting up and running after being shot, stabbed, beaten unconscious, people surviving absolutely ridiculous scenarios of disaster and injury, limbs being easily ripped off, other people being stabbed or shot once and falling to the floor dead, people dying from being strangled after 2 minutes, the everlasting life of FPS and martial arts combat games, it all adds to their very unrealistic idea of violence and death.
You can hear many, many killers say the phrase, "It wasn't like it is in the movies" when discussing their crimes. How long it took, how tiring it was, how horrifying, traumatizing, self-destructive, awful, gory, unpleasant it was. How they didn't just fall to the ground. Stuff like that. That's my supporting evidence for my theory. So not understanding what violence and death really are, like this Girl A and her gross misunderstanding of the inherent fantasy of her dark media obsessions, these people only understand when it's too late. I've heard killers cry when they have to explain how many times they had to hit someone until they died, how horrific it was to have to keep doing it etc. There's no excuse, mind you, I do not believe people should be excused for their own actions, barring some sort of force placed upon them or brainwashing maybe, it's a grey area. But this straight up murder, none. So please don't take that from everything I'm saying, this is from a position of understanding psychology, and you cannot do that if you do not put everything but the killer aside and try to understand. It's our best way forward in terms of prevention.
The fact that this young girl with Asperger's Syndrome had all but disconnected from reality into an extremely dark and dangerous fantasy life of glamorized violence and death horrifically killed someone in a similar way to her drawings, then stood there unmoving in shock, couldn't speak afterwards, and didn't even try to hide it, is not surprising to me in the least. Particularly because she had already tested the boundaries of threatening violence, and likely enjoyed the adrenaline rush and dopamine dump of power, and gotten away with it. I see a clear, straight path from A-Z here. So what we have here is an inherent dilemma; How do we properly impress upon the youth the truth about violence and death to educate our society and potentially prevent a sizeable chunk of violent crime and murder, without traumatizing anyone or inadvertently creating more violent criminals, to effectively change the society and close the gap between the concept and depictions of fictional violence and death and the reality of actual human on human violence and murder?
It's a tough question. I've thought about it, and came up with various potential pathways, but they break down when extrapolated onto a universal method that could be applied on a large scale. They kind of rely upon individual assessment, and I'm painfully aware of the already shoestring budget schools operate on, so while they'd potentially be effective in one-on-one situations, I can't transform them into one-size-fits-all plans for implementation. I'm also painfully aware of the horrifying conditions far too many children are raised in, and so the idea of relying on parents to do it is also a no-go. That would miss the demographic of abused and neglected children, a group with a higher instance of crime later in life, which is kind of important. I'm not saying accomplishing my suggestion would eliminate these crimes. I'm not saying it would make this epic impact on the world. All I'm saying is that I have observed way too many cases where the killer(s) express their shock at the slamming together of fantasy and reality. Again, I'm only referring to this one group of people who don't understand the difference until they experience it, and then regret it immediately. Like it takes the death for it to click into place. I actually heard of a guy who killed his fiancée and then went online begging for someone to tell him how to time travel so he could go back and undo it. Girl A falls into this type too. These are the people I'm talking about.
So, anyone have any ideas? Lol. I really think this is an important avenue to explore, especially as we've seen a dramatic rise in this detachment from reality and the fundamental lack of the ability to distinguish it from their fantasies/obsessions, and in crimes committed due to that, which include a lot of senseless murders. I'm just cognizant of the need for the idea to be effective even when extrapolated and standardized for mass deployment. I'm not getting paid for my work, this is literally all my personal thought and observations, I'm not even in this field of work. I just consume a lot of it and have these kinds of thoughts all the time. Might as well share one here, seeing as they just come and go in and out of my brain all the time, and who knows, maybe if I start doing this one will actually be useful one day lol.
I never knew about this. Man this issue has always polarized me... On one had I don't like telling people what they can and can't draw, but one the other hand it's appropriate to do so. I believe a good way to prevent more murders like this, is to not glamorize the killer and not make what they did seem like it's from a cool anime. It might make future girl A's think they can get attention or fame off of taking lives. I like myself some true crime every once in a while, but they lack of regard for the victim disgusts me...
Furthermore, I think what Natsumi did was unforgivable and I'm not sympathizing with her, but her story touched a nerve with me. I have Asperger's as well, and when I was around her age I was in a similar position. I was very withdrawn, didn't have a lot of friends, I was bullied, and I went through a phase where I obsessed with gore, violence and murder. I idolized serial killers (real or not) because of the power they held over people. And I feel that if I hadn't gotten help I would have fallen further down that rabbit hole. And I feel the same with Natsumi. If people saw the red flags and acted accordingly, her friend would still be alive.
well, technicallyyyy, you are sympathizing with her. But that's ok, you are allowed to view the situation that way and see yourself in that situation. I'm glad you got help.
This is disgusting I feel bad for the girl who committed those crimes as someone with autism (Aspergers) it’s hard to forget about society and her likely being hyper fixated on gore and horror to the point she couldn’t distinguish it from life is truly sad how the internet seen as some creepy pasta and enabled her behaviour despite her being clearly traumatised from it as if her family and the victims family where all fictional.
That super longed necked lady was the most terrifying part of the video.
This video was fantastic in all possible way; there was a very well done investigation, the presentation of the facts was incredible and the topic was treated with the respect it deserves. 10/10 in my book.
Junko Furuta, have you done a video on her?
Its a well known disturbing murder that happened in japan.
That's a disturbing case, a very disturbing case
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I’m gunna watch about her after this....
@@Rainbow.Quartz same ;-;
Never trust motorcyclists, ever.
This is such a great video, it made me really think about myself because I also have Asperger's and scarily related to her condition, this video helped my brain out a lot. Thank you Goose Boose.
You’re the first people I’ve heard this story from who’s actually made this transformative.
I just love how you were able to diliver this story till the end men
so, you're telling me that all i have to do is murder someone and i'll have a portion of the internet obsess over me in a really disgusting manner as if i did something grand ?
golly, *why didn't you tell me sooner* ?
It only works if you are an japanese girl or a white guy lol
no, you have to have a sad backstory and be moderately attractive as well
I vaguely remember stumbling around Girl A's alleged website. Wasn't particularly gory but certainly dark and creepy the way that only Japanese old school ASCII text can be.
Man, I hadn't thought about this case for a long while and you shed a whole new light on things at the end. Hope everyone affected is doing well these days...
Do you remember the url? Maybe i can use the wayback machine
You have definatley got my subscription
Coming from someone who lives in Reno, and lives close to the university, This is so weird seeing this little girl with the sweater, and even weirder that people started ordering the sweater just because of her
I did research into hikikomori in college and its pretty astounding how Japan as a whole is so against treating mental illness. Hikikomori is such a distinct problem in Japan and yet there is so little empirical research done on it, its sad. Parents would rather support the habit rather than get their kids treatment because of the high importance placed on image in Japan. They'd rather let their kids lives waste away in privacy than having their neighbors, friends, and co-workers find out their kid has a mental illness. Very sad. Glad that it seems to be getting better these last few years.
Her art is incredible but it's so sad that she turned out this way
person kills someone.
everyone: HES THE WORST.
but anime.
everyone: OMG KAWAI
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Being late on this video, i’ve been bing watching your channel because i love your personality.
Otherwise id like to give my opinion/the ory as to why this crime might’ve happened. I have autism (asperger is outdated and its an old diagnostic but still valid) and i do relate to this girl in some way. I’ve been late diagnosed and honestly an early diagnosis could’ve prevented so many things.(especially in her case)
I think she also had alexithymia(wich i struggle with too). Alexithymia is (idk what to category to call it honestly) the struggle of not being able to feel your feelings, or processing them way later than we should. I think that, since her special interest was related to gore or creepy stuff, she had a lot of intrusive toughts that went trough her mind(a special interest is characterised by an obsession with a subject, almost always having it in your mind and basically coping with it) and wasn’t teached that killing, gore, blood wasn’t a social normality(most people catch this on, but autistic people don’t understand social norms and if something is wrong or right unless told so)(ofc is no one gonna tell a kid not to kill lmao). She would’ve processed her frustration towards her bully, and most likely resorted to the only way she knew how to show frustration, like violence, meltdowns, shutdowns etc.
I do pity her and i can see her in myself and how i used to be violent and i was having obsessive special interests that ruled my behaviours(glad it wasnt gore lmao), of course we can’t dignify her acts, i’m happy she actually got the help and learned from her mistakes. Killing someone is in no shape of form something to be forgiven from. And the weirdos who made fanfics and fanart with her are deliberately sick and disgusting, if you ever do that know that you’re part of the problem and could potentially encourage a murderer(and other people).
Asperger/ autistic people are all different and might not struggle with these special interests as bad as other autistic/asperger people(it’s a really diverse spectrum). I just like informing people a bit about it, and i love that you did your research, I appreciate it a lot:D
It's so freaking weird that murderers get fame and a cult following... Like they know they may be harmed by these people and they are okay with that... Or that these people are innocent... Like no? Someone who is a homicidal maniac isn't just going to stop.
Ever heard of the guy that ate a guy who wanted to be eaten?
Shit just happens
You should do a video on Yuka Takaoka, people were obsessing over her murder as well, so much disgusting fanart and 'edits' were made of her.
I remember when I was a really troubled little kid, I used to be exposed to lots of guro content and grooming from adults. I can't believe Nevada tan was someone I idolized. I'm glad that I've moved on from the people trying to corrupt my self image and reconnected with reality.