Our first HIGHWAYS work setup | Thomas Nagy
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Hey guys, welcome back for another Monday video. We got a lot of things going on this week as well as some highways work, which I know a lot of you have been waiting for. Sit back, relax and enjoy this weeks episode :)
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Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
0:44 - Hand dryer
6:25 - I burst through a water pipe
9:30 - Some helpful tips
14:10 - What is wrong with this hand dryer
15:43 - We are hiring 2 NEW apprentices
17:49 - Fitting new sticker to the bucket truck
18:31 - Setting up for highway work
25:16 - Bucket truck insurance issues
27:18 - Garden lighting callout
29:39 - Revisiting a flat rewire
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You can tell Tom has been taking inspiration from Ashville weekly for his videos. Which can only be a good thing. Quality content for everyone.
Tom i use to watch you when you was an electrician working by yourself, grabbing a cuppa and getting your van washed once in a while and its so nice seeing you come so far in the industry your in. Massive respect to you mate!
I work in Streetlighting and it's nice to see other's seeing how much of a ballache Traffic Management is!
3Cones and an Arrow will nearly always be sufficient on a 30mph road, I can convert 30+ streetlights to LED a day following this rule.
If you're lone working, you can purchase lone working devices that automatically ring through to your office if it thinks you've fallen or had an accident. (:
Does the lone working device do CPR?
When working alone (different job to yours) we had to phone in at the start and end to confirm we were OK, if it wasn't a short task then we had to call in at a set period.
The task wasn't high risk and our personal health wasn't expected to be a factor. Probably more if we didn't call in someone else would be sent to finish the task..... In your case move the truck.. Lol
My experience with street lights. We never put out all signs just a couple of cones, always a crew of 2 and a bonus paid on 50 plus lamps per day.
Folding streetwork signs and collapsing “quazar” cones from Arco are a big van space saver
Yep just what i carry but the small bigfoot police types cones for space saving
With regards to drilling through things and street furniture/cables/etc, always always always get a services map and do a quick confirmatory cat scan if you have to break ground and you're not familiar with what's going on.
Also if you ask someone about services/utilities and they say there's none there and you don't need to worry about it, get it in writing. Especially for fibre optics; breaking a fibre run can very quickly lead to a huge bill for whoever the buck stops at, and writing from someone saying 'don't worry about checking' will save either you or your insurance premiums.
Thomas Nagy and the £36 hand dryer...............no expense - spent 😁😁😁 great video, thoroughly enjoyed 👍😎
Sounds a terrible Harry Potter remake
How are the cheap led outside lights holding up ?
Literally the video we've all been waiting on. You've worked hard Tom well done!
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Excellent!
Loving these longer format multi day vids Tom.
Keep up the great work.
I’m glad to hear that people are enjoying the longer vids :)
Great video. Love the switching between mixed content. And you’re taking on 2 apprentices. Respect 👊
The 30 mins for TM thing is only for emergency or transient works. You should be booking road space with the local authority for anything more than this (otherwise it’s illegal).
It's OK he only works in 30 minute stints. So as long as its multiple jobsheets each less than 30 minutes each it'll be fine. 🤣🤣
That is a good idea about the Tues and Thursday.
We do Mondays and Fridays because when things go sideways it's usually on Weekends/Mondays or Fridays.
But basically see when things usually go pear and book 2 days around similar days
It does help a lot!
The hand dryer is just tripping its own overheat switch. Basically, it overheats. Next time check if it has a thermal regulator in the circuit or on the back of the dryer, though for £30, I doubt there is one...
Looks more like the IR sensor has a rather long calibration phase
Hi tom you should look at getting a small trailer with the keep right sign on the back so you can park up and keep the van clear.
Combined neutral and earth can’t be implemented past the incomer.
Tt system will introduce differing potentials within the plant room.
Tom, you're looking at the wrong page in the red book. The set up you are looking at is for diversion of pedestrians into the carriageway, thats not required if you can leave 1.5m of footpath open (can go down to 1m) Try page 83 onwards, mobile or short duration works. The 30 mins you refer to applies to Scotland
The signs we use have cloth loops on the back that go over the cones. They are much lighter and stack flat.
After seeing your sophisticated stores setup, I would have thought you would keep spare drill bits etc? I always have plenty of spare drill bits, cutting blades etc in stock. Really enjoying the regular content, Keep it up Tom!
Next weeks Monday video...
"Setting up tool spares racks in the unit"
recently got an electrical apprenticeship in canada can't get enough of your vids tom!
There may be a little adjustable time switch inside the hand dryer, normally you just turn it with a tiny flat headed screwdriver.
I thought it was a thermal cut-out cutting in...? lol
I'm getting a bit old to remember all the details, but I feel sure that it is against Regs to put in an internal supply as a TNCS supply. For the obvious reason that if the neutral between the incomer head and the remote CU breaks, then all your bonded metalwork becomes live. ie an Open PEN
This is such a good video. Loved the drawing part of the TNS system. Really well explained and very interesting.
Appreciate it pal!
The 10mm tails were VIR risers, replaced with MICC many years ago. Shame no one rips it out
First time commenting but Tom can I just say, I’ve watched you for along time and I loved the old style videos but the way your adapting and evolving them aswell as your business is a credit to you the time and effort your must spend trying to balance everything is mind blowing , and a inspiration, I hope you all the best .
P.s surely I Carnt the the only one that it annoys when you say give me 5 mins to set up , there’s no time scale on CZcams the next second your back 😂😂 all love
He telling the camera man
The amount of varied content in your videos is really making you stand out. Nice vids!
Cheers pal, really appreciate it!
It’s like a TV programme
I totaly agree with the sound of de drill bit.....know your tools and you can avoid most problems.
I also like customers that just what yo get the job done.....no questions.Of course you leave everything and help them the nest time.
Hy from România.
Tom for cutting holes in plastic and sheet metal try the little armeg sheet metal holesaws, they fit in an impact driver. Really good set I couldn't live without!
Hands down my favourite channel on CZcams keep them coming!
Cheers pal, appreciate it :)
Great video Tom. Also it's great to see how your business has progressed from a one man band to now several employees and a decent unit 👍
Officially my favorite CZcams spark consistently good content, thanks!
Appreciate it partner!
Watched a crew replace all the bulbs on my street on Friday...
Think they did about 100 lamps.
1 guy driving the bucket truck.
1 guy going for a ride in the bucket.
Amazing how efficient a subcontract crew can be.
I really love you are doing streetlighing now, Ive been doing the same thing for a year now only in Norway, was a regular electrician before that, and the thing with the cones really spoke to me, we only have 30 mins per lightpost also, so we never use the damn cones, we have a car behind the lift with blinkers on also, keep up the great work!
Great video. Loving these long format videos. Keep up the good work!
Appreciate it partner!
Monday evening + Thomas Nagy video = perfection
Really enjoy your videos, especially as they are not full of adverts, endorsements, and giveaways ! Just a sparky doing what he loves and wanting to share it.
Appreciate it pal!
Great video,👍🏽 definitely agree with the screws for Schneider, the light switch screws are just the same , pointless supplying them , might as well get your own
Thomas, I used to work for BT and we had to do "roadworks guarding" when working on poles etc. Whilst it was a real PITA for a lot of the reason you mention, it meant you were covered in the event of an accident. Sometimes corners were cut, but when they were and something happened you could end up being in court facing charges if someone was involved in an accident as a result of your lack signage, or if you skimped on PSE gear, it could be your life. We had one guy who used to have cable ties on his safety harness to slot tools in rather than use the correct method of setting up a rope and pulley and winching up a tool bag. One day he mistakenly secured his harness to a cable tie, lent back at the top of the pole and the tie let go and he fell....sadly to his death. Not saying you would take such chances, at least not in public, but in todays blame and claim society, its not worth doing it any other way than by the book. - Stay safe brother
I did a similar thing, put my belt clip on to a hammer loop on my belt which nearly ripped a rivet out when I leant back. Absolutely shit myself! Fortunately I managed to grab on to the pole before I fell backwards and off! Never used one again and used is as a coaching point at every possible opportunity afterwards.
Is this why they use outside contractors these days, they do not do all the signage etc, take shortcuts etc. BT would just turn on them and say the contractor has been advised as to what they should do, if they didn't do it it is their fault! Or am I just being cynical?
@@Martin64uk Man you were lucky. Glad to hear you are still with us.. Three months after my training and being out on my own I happened to have an accident at the top of the pole.. caused by incorrectly positioned DP's by subcontractors. When reported my Level 1 came out, as did a union rep and an inspector, who tool pictures of the ladder, van position, cones, "men at work" signage etc... As I had done everything as per my training I had a good case, and BT couldn't point the finger at me... Mind you, years later they cut the time per provide and often corners would be cut and I've seen guys run up a pole with the dropwire over their shoulder, ladder untied, and no PPE gear on what so ever.... Life is too short to take chances. - Stay safe bro
Why dont you work for BT any more?
@@RMD80GAMER I took the redundancy package in 1992... Went self employed for 10 years (different industry) and then into IT
had a proper chuckle at the hand dryer
i work for openreach and we have to do this all the time and yes we have to have two people at all time also the act engineers carry all the signs on the van for the hoists
Nice one.....just a tip...I use the soft conduit back boxes , it saves the cracking problem and you can get them in all sizes......👍
You probably know this Tom but you are not allowed to set RWG up at busy times. at my company we have a database we check and it tells us the time the council say no Roadworks during rush hour or between 7:00am - 9:00am. also you have to leave 6.75m road width for give and take (check the red book) if its not possible like on that road you showed, you need a permit from the council.
10:57 - Unless there's no room behind the hole, don't use hole saws for that, use a step drill. A single step drill does the job of a full set of hole saws - and a much better job on plastic or thin metal.
+thomas nagy
ESQCR 2002 says that neutral and earth may not be combined in a Consumers' installation. As for BNO's -- maybe this is another grey-area ...?
P.s. consider what happens if that pen-conductor fails on the MI cable, and where bonding is to shared services (water, etc in the building as whole not just individual-flats)...
great video, like the top tips and real world scenarios!
Drill a lil hole in the bottom of the outdoor box to let any water out!
Hey Tom! Another great video! Greetings from Austria.
great contents mate really appreciate how you explain each and every thing mate .I recommended your videos to my apprentices as well they love watching your contents. they learned so much from your videos . keep it up mate
Glad to hear it! Thanks for the kind words!
Bloody hell, it’s put together like a tv episode! Fantastic! Health and safety risk assessments are straightforward with a decent proforma and a sensible approach. Careful about getting ripped off by consulting companies
I fitted those streetlights Tom, outside the council dust cart yard opposite the park. I did the dno service (pme), helped erect them then wired and topped them out. You should've tried the road on the right by the park or further down outside the scrap yard, that would've really stressed you out.
New word of the day “Caveat”
How come you ended up repurposing the 'Modunful' hand dryer as a safety helmet in your highways segment? 19:20
possibly better use?! 😂😂😂
Hot head 😂
You need to check the other end of the other end of the MICC to see how they've terminated it as the communal board is down there. Seems like you may have read my comments from the last video. Depending on PFC and LOOP there's possibility of using the Conduit itself as the earthing conductor but you'd have to test it to see if it was suitable as it would have been the previous earth if they weren't using the water pipe. Your research is correct and is normally why we list it as C3 and not higher, though the MICC joint in the flat needs covering. Also there's a good chance the cabling in the conduit was VR hence it was cut off - it is that age of installation.
Good insight Thomas Bureaucracy at it`s finest.
Answers on a postcard what do you do when somebody kicks it whilst in the bucket.
Your videos are so much better these days
I’m glad to hear it :)
Literally dropped everything to watch this
I’m glad to hear it ;)
@@thomasnagy your welcome Tom love the videos and the progression from when you where doing everything yourself
Project 863
@@anaschunara7544 hell yeh
Were you on the loo at the time 🤣
Tom you and the camera guy are an excellent team and better than you realise
Great video and fully agree about the Schneider , excellent accessories but all the screws are to short
When Scottish power were working on the lights for my street the fella is almost like you described except in his harness (no hat). Pull up, walk round, up down and onto the next light.... time is money
In Australia we use tma trucks with is a another vehicle with crash protection on the back that's sits behind the working vehicle used alot on major roads
Great video Thomas, thanks!
Cheers pal!
on that last building wiring, if the neutral got disconnected in the flat for some reason any appliance would send 240 to any grounded metal case of every appliance in the same flat...
Tom, I'd say that you are the first to notice the PME/PME double up Cockup.... it should never have been done that way.... If PME at the origin exists, it should never be duplicated further up the system,... I would scrap it and run a separate 16 earth from the origin to the DB in the flat....
Good video, interesting stuff.
You cant run a seperate earth.
If you run it as a seperate removing it from the neutral then under fault conditions the building becomes live.
If you keep it connected to the neutral then you have a parallel return path.
I could have understood having 2 MI cables - line and neutral. But single for line can't be correct.
I can also understand why they might have installed MI as its a lower fire risk over the 2 10mm in "pipe" but where a DNO have regs I don't begin to have knowledge of that might have made this acceptable, our regs say its not.
Just discovered your channel thanks to this video, subscribed!
23:23 you really need your head on a swivel to make sure someone doesn't run into you. The buddy system for sure. That is what the appearances are for they can stand there and direct traffic and help out on the ground! 😁🤷♂️
Yep it always looks better in the old back box😏
when drilling holes in plastic use a Sheetmetal step bit it will give you the cleanest hole with very little cracking
also called Christmas Tree Bits in denmark ;)
Christmas tree 🎄
Armeg fast cut and obviously in the clockwise direction , lovely clean hole.
Great video, tar and glue remover is great for sign writing 👍
To prevent shattering the back box I use upvc surfaces boxes which are ideal.
I live in Abercumstuth 🤣🏴
I have Schneider throughout, I actually went and bought a box and replaced all the original screws because of how short they were!
In Old polish Buildings neutral is used as a earth. Most eastern Europe in 60-80’ has been done that way, very similar at least, but that was long time ago.
Under new roads and street work the 30 mins is only for mobile works. You can have as long as you need if you have your chapter 8 out. It all depends on your permit to work from network management.
Always get confirmation of insurance cover in writing! Never take someone’s word
Love the vids , great stuff 👍🏼 but I do miss the old days.. soap style intro, grabbing a coffee from McDonald’s and having good rants in the van 👌🏼😅😅😅
Another great video! Thanks
Work with a Transit Versalift, I did the same coarse on traffic management. Problem also is the Transit only has 100kg of storage weight permitted. If it goes over 3.5t then not only is it overweight but your basic licence (I'm 42) doesn't cover you to drive anything over 3.5t without going for another test.
I used the reverse trick just yesterday with a spade-bit on an existing hole that I needed to enlarge in a nylon cistern tank. Whoever had installed this setup put nothing in stuffing glands or supports, effectively leaving the top of a drinking water supply open to goodness knows whatever would blow or fly into a garage. Wires and pipes just stuck willy-nilly. Had to swap in a new 3/4HP pump for the domestic water supply. (the1500l tank is fed by a slow-flow well)
When I worked on highways, 2006-2015 the minimum was chevrons and beacons on the van, keep left arrow. 3 cones. 1 men at work sign. For short duration works. Ie lamp change, or cleaning the bowl.
Cheers for the insight 👍🏻
@@thomasnagy it's been a while since my nrswa training. But I think on a 40mph road you need more. Like you had set up in the video.
I always worked alone at e.on, then went onto Balfour Beatty and the used 2 people, the second was just for signs and cones. That's when I quit!
Entertaining and amusing. Thanks.
I've seen high up FCU for a Hand Dryer messed with too!
That hard hat you were wearing for the streetwork was approaching the class look of the “hard hat over the hooded sweatshirt” from a couple of videos ago. One for the ladies, mate. 😂😂
I drilled through a central heating pipe while hanging a curtain rail because I’m stupid. Happy to admit it. Learn from experience.
Brilliant and brave video mate. Legalities of the works we do only comes into play when you or someone else is injured or dies. i.e Grenfell. Every company takes shortcuts, it's a price to win a job and a cost in time to make it profitable, they rarely match doing it by the book.
If it were my flat, I’d want an earth wire run at least… I’d probably pay to have new tails pulled through down to the utility cupboard and ditch that MI cable. I agree, it seems bizarre to rewire the flat but leave a cowboy supply 🤷🏻♂️
But as the building is local authority owned you could run into issues
@@Sierraomega1991 fair comment - I guess my hope would be that from my meter to my consumer unit I could choose the cables 🤷🏻♂️ as that conduit is already there, the building’s managers would probably never notice it’s been reinstated- no drilling or anything required. Flats I’ve had before have always had the meter within the flat, so I’ve not seen this setup before
Another interesting video :-) Did you know there seems to be a hole in the outside sheeting of your unit? You can see it on the left at 2m33.
Top tip, never ever ever use anything other than moulded back boxes, we haven’t used plastic Bakelite stuff for about 12yrs now 😂 not worth the hassle
Me to extra cost but so much worth it, also most of the sparks on you tube never use the Mini trunking box adaptors.
Are moulded back boxes thermoset? Because the soft ones used for phone/data shouldn't be used for mains.
I only use PVC boxes, the bakelite crap is too brittle and weak.
Love this channel
Great video Tom 😎
Appreciate it pal!
14:37 I bet that Airblade was looking more appealing 4 hours in to the job 😋
My bank holiday is now complete!
With the person in the top of the bucket you can all sorts of lone worker tools, when I'm in the office alone we have a phone with an app that we have to check in every hour and if you don't you get a phone call
In liverpool and Chester we have the opposite with regards to dno's . They have been round installing new concentric cables in galvanised trunking to supply flats in blocks and removing old pyrotenax cables . When I worked on street lighting in liverpool it was always 2 man jobs but in Shropshire 1 man working was allowed . The chapter 8 sign and Coning was rarely used , if you were a bulk change you would put a caution sign and street lighting sign at the start of a road and a couple of cones and an arrow sign behind the van as you moved along . Never had an issue . Perhaps more luck than judgement.
Tom look at pages 19 and 37 of the red book to save time and equipment for your set up on roads of 30 mph or less which most of your work will be. Also the 30 minutes is Scotland. In England and Wales there are two levels of short duration works up to 15 minutes and 15 to 60 minutes both require different SLG set ups. 👍
Essentially they’ve run a PME from the incommer to the fuse box position, I’m fairly sure ‘porting’ a PME ain’t allowed!! (By which I mean it’s defiantly not allowed)
Whatever Tom took before making the first half of this video, I want some! 😄
Orbix screws are similar to the self tappers dont need washers getting things flat either
1. Put the signs and cones on wheels and bits of rope, tow behind the van on multiple lamp changes 😁
2. Should those supplies up to the flats be installed to bs7671? Surely an exposed neutral can’t conform..
3. Just because no one’s questioned it before doesn’t mean it’s right.
Your last comment is why I’m deliberating….. just cos nobody has ever questioned it that doesn’t mean it’s ok. I’m still looking into it trying to work out a solution.
@@thomasnagy good on you, but beware the path least trodden 😁
Is there no lift shaft or downspouts you can earth to? :P
great vids tom
Appreciate it!
DNO when they were the REC will have PME the whole building. Now it’s a BNO… you have CNE running throughout the building. Which could be argued is against 7671. Depends on if BNO knows it’s a BNO…
Fully agree with E5, it’s such a mess in the Uk this is gonna come to a head when a problem occurs like a life is lost and or fire then there will be lots of hand wringing about who was responsible.
Sadly I've had blocks like this where they have no functioning BNO and weren't even aware it was their responsibility and witnessed those same blocks suddenly deciding to notify all the tenants they need to pay up to rectify these supplies after EICRs or replacement consumer units have been fitted, notifying the board of the supply type and responsibility. Which has caused residents to re-mortgage or sell up to cover costs.
@@mathman0101 🤷♂️🤷♂️Well apparently its a C3 so nobody should worry 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I would consider running a 16mm earth. But everyday is a school day.