Everyone Seems to LOATHE the 3rd-Gen Mitsubishi Eclipse...But Does It Deserve All the Hate?
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Mitsubishi now is unrecognizable from what it was. EVO, Eclipse, 3000GT, galant VR4, even off road beasts like the Pajero EVO. Absolutely awesome cars all gone
A sad reality for all manufacturers. When Cars no longer make money, they are scrapped.
Brendan that concept car screams Audi R8!
Old japanese management scared of change and trying new things have really backed them into a corner. They really have no reason to exist, they won't even do a hot hatch Mirage. The Mirage weighs less than a ton it would only take 120-150Hp to make it fly.
Manufacturers pushed larger vehicles, they pushed the market away from cars.
Which, of course they did it because there's more profit in larger and more expensive vehicles.
Not sure what happened to Mitsubishi...
*200 HP and 205 Lbs. ft torque is not slow or weak. People need to remember the 1980s.*
*Cars were offered with as little as 66 HP. A performance variant of compact or mid size cars were typically no higher than 180 HP.*
My buddy had one in that exact color and we would always go rip around the local backroads taking turns driving. Good times RIP Josh
Damn sorry for your loss man
😔
You guys should definitely check out the 4th gen eclipse gt as well its such an odd car. Decent power output on it 265hp. Nothing crazy but decent for sure
its a bargin. get the manual tho.
@johnnyyang933 yezir, I used to own one but I moved onto better things since then I did enjoy it though
I grew up doing my homework in a corner in a Mitsubishi dealerships service department while my dad turned wrenches. By 2003 I was actually working as a service advisor for Mitsubishi and we've had one of just about everything Mitsubishi ever made (except the Evo unfortunately) and the 3rd Gen eclipse suffered from being watered down Chrysler crap. That said the second gen eclipse with the Chrysler 420a is probably the worst car they ever made. The 3rd and 4th Gen just lost the high strung turbo coupe soul that helped the eclipse dominate the sports car market for years.
The Dodge engine isn't the best I agree but it has some potential, remember the 4G63 had oil issues that Mitsubishi didn't repair and the owners were left with a 2G brick 🤨
I remember seeing this running around town when I was a kid. You'd always notice the "GT" and "V6" badges and know that meant you were looking at the "fast" one. Little did I know they were so anemic. Great video
Um no they were not, these cars ran great.
Brendan, these are underrated cars from those of us that like them, sure it had styling cues from others around it, simple to say used the best at the time, this is like a Toyota V6 , only in the sense that it is underrated by Mitsubishi when it was new, at the same time it had unbelievable longevity, you could rev it to its redline all day long do regular scheduled maintenance and no issues, some came in on trade at local dealers here in Canada, trade in values weren't high although they drove like a 4 year old GT car and had 380,000 kms on the clock, that's almost 240,000 miles and this car went to be sold to a young guy for his first car, tons of stories like this, you could drive these all day long at 120 kph /75mph and get 30mpg you can never go wrong with that, tunes, A/C, Cruise set, just go, 👍
My first car. 02 GT 5 speed. Did the 16 year old starter pack. Rims, subs, tint, underglow, HIDs, LEDs, carbon hood, intake, fart cannon exhaust, sparco shift knob, Superman logo sticker (+10 hp). The little street cannon was 200hp goin on 400 when ur 16
That Gen was certainly the least attractive of the 4 gens of Eclipse (it has those 'Grand Am' side lines) but I grew to appreciate it. -- Enjoy that Eclipse, Brendan!
Hate? I always LOVED the styling of these cars!
lol
Thats not the “original” that’s the 3rd generation.
Thanks for setting facts straight that is actually the third generation on thumbnail I had an original DSM and still miss it
Did he change video title? Because now this comment makes no sense
Back in the day, I worked for a Mitsubishi Chrysler Jeep Eagle dealership. So, I sold the Talon, the Laser, and the Eclipse. And damn those things were easy to sell. I'm a 3000GT man myself. But sometimes you just want a practical car that is fun to drive. I think that's what they were shooting for with the Gen 3.
I had one of these but it was the v6 5 speed. I learn d to drive manual with mine. It was a blast 💥
the 3G Eclipse, Hands Down had the best throwback Early 2000's Car Commercial. (With the 'Days Go By')
This.
I owned a gen2, 3 and 4. Loved them all. Currently, own a evo x. I miss the glory of that company.
Great video!! The 3rd gen doesn't get the love it deserves. I had a 2003 GTS with a manual, and I loved it. Most fun car to drive I have ever owned. Wasn't super fast or anything, but handled great, and the shifts were as smooth as butter. Wish I still had it.
Enjoy the 3rd Gen GT, I loved and enjoyed all of mine.
I bought 3 of them, 01 Eclipse Spyder GT w/ RIPP Supercharger and basically built it to look the the 2Fast Eclipse just not Purple. Left the Paint to the Factory 3 layer Pearl White paint. I bought 2 more all at the same time, Black 03 GT the daily and 05 GTS pretty much the track toy. The 6G72 is basically the same motor out of 3000GT. If I had enough money, I've always wanted to a 3000GT VR-4 swap.
Fun note, I did this to my 01 FBO Spyder, if you don't like the ribbed doors, swap the doors from a Stratus around the same year, literally plug and play door swap.
I absolutely love the 3rd gens, I also love my 4g's with 5 SPD Man. I have also enjoyed and dearly miss all of my 2nd gens. I had 95 GS, then 97 GS-T and then 99 GSX.
As a 3g owner. I would recommend the 4 cylinder over the V6 anyday. You can actually DOHC swap these motors and just have a 2.4L 4g63. Yes they are turbo capable. The difference between the 4g63 vs the 4g64 is the displacement and the stroke. A lot of the DSM & Evo guys actually will grab these motors because they know this and make their 2.4L 4g63.
Hell yeah, that’s awesome! I’ve heard of people making late model Galants into sleepers with that very engine combo too. Never owned a Mitsubishi but I’ve always had a soft spot for them. I’ve seen tons of Endeavors and base Lancers get absolutely ABUSED and never die.
I somewhat like this car; it reminds me of one of the first issues of Sport Compact Car magazine that I ever picked up, as the Iridescent Green concept car was on the cover, and also reminds me of Dirty Vegas' "Days Go By" video. Good times!
I’m on my second 3G. Drove the first one for 17 years. So far, nearly 4 years on this one. Both 2001.
First one I bought, back in 2003, for $7,500USD.
Second, bought in March of 2020 for $3,700CAD.
Let people keep sleeping on these gorgeous machines. Keeps the prices down for replacement cars/parts.
Not to mention, in my honest opinion, this is the last real Eclipse. 4G looked a mess, had such little space between dash and windshield - it felt squished. And don’t get me started on the xOver……
These are great now for modding.
The 6g75 3.8 fits with little effort and has 263bhp but with bolt ons and a tune I've seen 310-340 at the wheels..
Hey honda also made the worst civic at this time. 😅
If you are talking specifically the 6g75 with mivec yes you can maybe get those numbers. I personally had a 4g eclipse gt with that motor of course and it made 290wheel on a dynojet with headers, proflo throttle body, hackish tune, injen cai, 3rd cat delete, and magnaflow exhaust with removed rear muffler for it. I think to get 310+ you gotta get plenum spacers, and port out the intake manifold and maybe go for like a 93 octane tune mine was 91 octane tune
@@tylerspecht7553 you still had cats. The ones I've seen use diamante headers(supposedly the best ones) we use 93 octane also. Most are in mirage chassis. You can also use tiburon v6 transmissions be it 5 or 6 speed. Theres a lot of potential on that engine.
@blue_lancer_es I didn't still have cats. All longtube headers get rid of cats unless they come with hfc's. I ditched that platform a while ago but it was an decent engine for the time frame. It would be cool to see their review of a 4g eclipse gt with that motor
Bought a 2001 GT Spyder 5 speed with the sun and sound package 2 months ago. Just put 2g in engine, about $1600 in underbody welds and rust reformation. Up next, a purple paint job.
It was owned 20 years by a gal who garaged it. Engine is tight, clutch is new, she did a lot of suspension and steering work. I think its sharp as Hell, better looking than all the new pricey German drop tops i see. In the end ill spend over 10g in purchase and restoration. To me thats cheap money for a sharp resto summer ride you dont see everyday in top trim.
Back in 2007 I had a 2003 eclipse GTS coup with the 5 speed and really quite enjoyed it. I liked how in the GTS, it had a two tone leather. Dark blue and black. Very subtle but it was there. It was a decent road trip car when it was just me. Fun to drive.
Today I have a 17 mustang GT premium, so the eclipse definitely doesn’t hold its own with that car, lol, but as you said, in its own right it was a fun car.
the one i bought, a GT has the same GTS interior, believe the past owner swapped it all out
Does the final gen after this ride on the gallant platform too?
This generation is a good reflection of the beginning of the end of Mitsubishi. Built as cheap as possible with no originality. The interior of the the 1st gen with the sweeping dash is still cool 30+ years later.
I remember those days in early 2010’s….my cousin had a beautiful 03 GTS and I had a 98 GS-T, we’d just roll around town and have fun
Where in Colorado did you find this car? Been looking for one.
got a 3g 02 RS ( 4 cylinder ) it's alright. Use mine as a daily but bought it because it was cheap, not too many people in my state have eclipses and just wanted something different then what everyone else is running. is it fast? no mine is pretty much stock, is it reliable? mine has been thus far with minor easy to fix issues. plan to keep it as a daily for now then hopefully some day strip it and redo everything. Was the same with the celica here few years ago now they are starting to blow up again and i see so many celicas now days of all gens. will probably hold out for an EVO or 2g gsx if i get another mitsubishi otherwise try something else like an STI or something. i like the 3g style over 4g but either way i see so many 4g owners here of any gen i still pull up to them when i see um out.
Just picked up a 1998 eagle talon tsi awd automatic. Wish it was the 5 speed but I'm happy. She's in great condition. 98k and got her for 8k
Probably hated because when I saw the thumbnail I thought it was a Dodge Intrepid
I have 4 cylinder and got it used a few years ago. Very reliable, I like it and since we shouldn’t race on the streets it has enough power to take me any where.👍
I had a 2nd gen GST Spyder and loved it. That is, until someone ran a red-light and totaled it. LOVED the look of the 3rd generation Eclipse and agree that they knocked it out of the park in that department. If only they would have continued offering it with the 4G63 and AWD options, I think Mitsubishi could have sold many more of those, I certainly would've likely replaced my totaled 2nd generation with one.
My buddy had one of these in the Remix edition. Was a great car
0:33 - You acknowledge there were 2 generations prior to this. 🤨 The title is obviously for clicks & comments.
You're suppose to pressin the clutch when shifting even when the engine isn't on because your forcing the gears to sync against a positioned clutch.
i had an 03 GTS and it was fantastic.
As someone who had owned every Gen of eclipse the 03 gs is by far my favorite. Was the nicest ride and was the most reliable.
I owned a 01 GT 5spd black with black leather. Unfortunately she went to the wrecker 😢 that was a great car
I'd say you got a great car for that money. What'd you have to do? Put a battery in it? Were there any other repairs needed? I like the look of all the Eclipses. This generation is good too.
It's really a shame that cars aren't really selling anymore, otherwise Mitsubishi may have made a modern Eclipse instead of the Eclipse Cross. But, you can't invest huge amounts of money into a platform that nobody (or very limited numbers of people) will buy. It doesn't make business sense. And that is why you have the Eclipse Cross. People are buying crossovers now. Mitsubishi tried to give the Eclipse Cross some influence from the Eclipse. I just wish they'd come out with a high performance version of it. There is the Ralliart version that just came out, but it's an appearance package at this point. I must say though, the Eclipse Cross does handle great with Mitsubishi's S-AWC.
I think this car is just cheap fun. Keep the videos coming Brendan.
I think your red bead shines like a c5 Corvette with a fresh coat of wax. Majestic.
I wholeheartedly believe that 2F2F is the only reason people hate this car. I think people saw the tacky paint and oversized rims with the shitty widebody and immediately hated it. Some DSM nerds will say "wahh it doesn't have AWD so it's bad" ok most 2gs, unless you got the higher trims, were FWD too, and even the AWD ones were mostly FWD. "waaahh you cant tune it like you can with a 4g63" ok swap one in its not a hard swap, but considering that 90 percent of 2g eclipses are broken down or abandoned and these are still all over the road, maybe dont put a 4g63 in it. People saw the horrid 2F2F car and pulled Nickelback where they found any other reason to hate it irrationally. I've had mine for a year and other than a 3000gt, it is the most fun car I've ever driven. Buy one people
Ecxelent purchase!! I had a 2001 but deteriorated of overuse and miscare!! But I wanna get me another. By any chance do you know where to get one in devent condition!! Thanks!!!
Galant vr4 was a beast it wasn't soft
Acura RSX has this beat in every way for not too much more $$$ - reliability, performance, precise manual, nice ride, arguably better looks.
Reliability is same and looks are subjective. Also these were aimed a bit more at coupe buyers than sportscar buyers
I had a 01 GT V6 5sp. Great car. For a small "sports" car it was very usable, and comfortable. Drove the East Coast tip to tip a few times, a real good GT car. Leather, BIG sunroof, Infinity sound system, I am 6'3 275 and was always comfortable in it. Bought it cheap from an older man, and sold it cheap to younger man. I put 35k on it and loved it.
I always thought it was pretty cool, it just wasn't as exciting at the GS-X or GS-t before it. The 3rd Gen was supposed to be a little more 'upscale" to appeal to the agingbuyers
I have a 01 GT with the 5 speed and honestly this car is just amazing. Reliable, practical, fun, cheap. Only things I hate is how the back spark plugs are a pain, the cup holders, and aftermarket
I own a 03 rs with the 5 speed, I absolutely love it
agreed. when me and my girlfriend go out im always without a cup holder. the aftermarket sucks, but it just makes all the builds even more unique. some really creative and innovative people
Same here with my 01 GT Spyder, love it
Just bought 1 bro. Restoring it now. My summer will rock. I live and work on the Maine seacoast. All the pricey German drop tops around here look bland next to this baby. Love the cockpit. Feel like im piloting a fighter.@drew8418
I don't think anyone hated this car more than the people who owned them. The Club3G forums were brutal, especially to young kids who bought these second hand hoping to fulfill their fast and furious fantasies.
Hindsight shows that when a brand decides to go a different direction with a certain model, it's rarely met with open arms. People don't like change, but it was a new millennium. New safety and emissions standards, the DSM partnership had dissolved, the new Evo was coming to the US market and you can't have two competing models.
People tend to forget the sport compact market that this car competed in was never meant to be a group of quarter mile monsters. The RSX, Celica, Cougar, Tiburon, Beetle Turbo S, all of them were FWD and only the 3G and RSX could break 200 hp, yet it was a hot market segment at the time.
The lack of tunability was overcome by the community somewhat. For the 4 Cylinder, DOHC and turbo swaps were common. Some even did AWD swaps but not as many. the 4G64 block was a bored out 4G63 and could handle boost easily. There was also a RIPP supercharger available for the V6 plus plenum and TB swaps from the larger 3.5.
A lot of the issues this car had were mostly just indicative of it's time. Cheap interiors, cracked dashes, bad paint, squeaks and rattles were pretty common on vehicles from the 2000s.
Would I buy one today? No. There's zero factory support for these cars, the aftermarket support is dwindling, the community is extinct. It's a dead platform. A manual V6 is also hard to come by, especially in good shape.
This was the best car ive ever owned. I had the GT with an 2:01 AEM intake and Magna Flow exhaust and short shifter. Hands down best handling with that small block 6 and btw the spider in 2fast was fire
*Is that what he's talking about* when he says "this" car was in the 2nd F&F? The *Spyder* that Tyrese had?! Which is completley unrelated to the coupe other than like the Headlight Bulbs - if that lol
If I could find a nice clean one like this with not a ton of miles. I definitely would. But yours was probably owned by a boomer who maintained it. Probably owned it since new. And kept it stock. You got very very lucky. The odds of that happening with a “tuner car” are slim and none. Congratulations you need to give me the address of that auction. I’m coming to Colorado. You sir have been killing it up there! Definitely interested in seeing what you do with the Passat!
Great review!!!
Im 18 and this car is the only one I've ever had. I've done a few tasteful mods to it to tighten it up (coilovers, sway bar) and it's awesome to drive. My biggest regret is not opting for the manual, the auto is a 4spd and it's gotten a bit mushier since I've owned the car.
It is a neat looking car ill give ya that, just never thought much of it, and you're right about F&F2 not representing it well, also they went with a convertible, A CONVERTIBLE
4g64 is the 4 cylinder and it’s easy to do a head swap and all the parts bolt on from 4g63t so you can get a bigger displacement 4g63t if you choose to build it like so
I liked mine when I had it, but I eventually sold it and went back to a 2g again
The 3rd Gen is more "FTO" then it is "Eclipse" imo. That being said this was the "it" car back in the day, anyone remember the commerical featuring Dirty Vegas that Dave Chappelle parodies? In 2 fast 2 furious this was tyreses' ride and it was a definite fit....at this point in the history performance took a step back it was all about 20"s and Sound Systems. It wasnt so much "serious sport compacts" anymore as it was now "sporty" compacts...think Scion tC, Hyundai Tiburon, Cavalier Z24, Altima V6 Coupe, Mazda3 S 2.3, Stratus R/T...etc. All of these prioritize daily drivability over straight hard edge performance.
That looks JUST like the one I had like 15 yrs ago. I got it at auction for a steal even back then, lucky for me the only two guys who were interested were my parents friends so no one bid against me and I just had to give the owner closer to what he wanted then my bid, then I modded it😂
I had a 2000 gt 5 speed looked just like this one but silver and I actually miss it. Would. Definitely buy another one
The 3G is a decent handling car and a great handling car with a few mods.
If you keep the rpm's up it makes up a little for the low torque. The lower end is good for 300HP to the rear er front wheels, you'll prob need to turbo to get that though. Or just re-motor. A couple of electric motors at the rear wheels?
Tyrese drove the purple bathroom countertop tile 3G Spyder in 2 fast 2 furious.
Your handgun shows in the console when you use the second cupholder.
They get hate because people are jealous. Lol, haha.
My front wheel drive turbo 1st gen was amazing. AWD in Phoenix is pretty pointless
All 4 wheels/snow tires fit in the hatch of my GT with rear seats folded. Simple intake and exhaust made my first car fun enough to enjoy the pretty unique V6 sounds and not get in trouble hitting high speeds. Search 3G eclipse GT V6 exhaust. Kinda 350z ish before it came out😂
My cousins had one. I liked the seating race car, it felt fast in a straight line but the handling and cornering were horrible. Also, the paint faded. My 2006 TSX has paint fade but I accept it because it’s a 17-18 year old car.
After seeing the SST prototype at auto shows in the late 90's, what we actually got as a production car was a big letdown. Gone was the Turbo 4G63 and AWD shown in the prototype and in went the 6G72 (or worse, the 2.4 liter 4G64) along with FWD as the sole drivetrain option.
I suppose it made for a cool 'hairdresser' car, but it lost the essence of what made the previous two generations great. It's like the 280ZX compared to the 240, 260 and 280Z, a great canyon carver turned boulevard cruiser.
Is this reliable enough as a daily wanna switch from my boring camry 2011..
I daily my 01 GT Spyder and it's currently sitting at 212,000 miles so I'd say yes absolutely. Probably the most common thing to look out for is making sure there's no issues with the timing belt
I miss cars that arent there anymore.
Owned the 1998 Eagle Talon🙌🏻 nothing but good memories
I have a 2005 Eclipse Spyder. 5 speed. at 60yo, i past my racing days and i love this car to bits.
The Galant, in its time, was a pretty comfortable car and easy on the highway with great gas mileage, but a little underpowered. Slotting this in as a more powerful compromise is actually a good way to think about it.
3rd gen looks over the 4th for me any day of the week🤙
The i4 variant has so much aftermarket support because you can swap the evo 8 head bolt up the 4g64, turbo bits from the evo bolt up can evo swap in a evo computer 😂. There’s no support for the v6 what you get is what you get with full bolt one (if you can find them) will net you 215-220whp
You say in the video that the 2.4 in these are not very tuneable. This is actually wrong. If you swap over to an evo head (easy job really) you can put the redline at 7k rpm and get power that way (engine is safe at 400hp with the head swap). Or turbo manifolds from 4g63 fits the 4g64. So worst limitation is really the gearbox, not the engine
It still stings knowing what Mitsubishi has become. I was not a fan of the 3rd gen upon its arrival, but it has grown on me over time. I had a base 2nd gen. It was dirt slow but I didn't care. Loved that car to death.
I was told by an employee that due to the guys raking up tickets the insurance companies raised the rates on the 2nd gen owners and beyond and that slowed sales dramatically.
I agree to a point but the styling also had a huge part and the economy fizzled out when the 4G came along too.
Its about timing and listening to the buyers from where I sit.
Yeah they had a ruff moment when they got caught up in scandals and Nissan stabbed em in the back too 🤨
I can't gripe too much about Nissan because I have one of their trucks but still they didn't have to do em in like that 😡
Definitely like the first 2gens more but I’d drive it if I got it cheap like you I always wanted a 2 door stratus for some reason and that is close enough
The 2 door Chrysler was always my favorite. Loved the body style!!
Contemporary Mitsubishi is a different company to the one that made the Evos, Eclipse Turbos, 3000gt/GTOs. Today it's less about making interesting cars, or pushing the envelope, and solely about making cars that earn them money.
Personally the 3d gen eclipse is my favorite of the bunch
I know its not as good as a 1st gen, but Ive always had a softspot for underdogs
It also perfectly suits my needs and desires as a driver
Yeah, i get the hate for it but i still like it. Its the car for me.
Having been a Mitsubishi tech for 2 years about 16 years ago, i gotta say I really liked the 3rd gen GT. Especially if it was the drop top. It was pretty and had just enough power to be fun.
Weird that this is the best selling generation.
Had no idea these were “hated” in the first place.
3rd gen Eclipse is about like the 7th gen Celica. Both are compared to their past, though I'd say the D52/53A Eclipse is hated more than the Zzt231/230 Celica. If I found one for sale (GT or GTS) I'd consider it as for some reason I've always liked the Eclipse regardless if it's the loved generations or the two that followed before it became an CUV.
you saying this made me giggle since im currently debating on buying either celica t23 or eclipse 3rd gen gt/gts.
@@ivo.vasilevv both are fun cars, though with the Celica I can not stress getting the manual enough! The auto isn’t bad but it is a Toyota slush box. Always loved how the Eclipse looked as a Convertible.
the 4cyl is pretty slow... but it has the potential when it comes to head swapping and turbocharging. The 4cyl engine is the 4G64, which shares plenty of similarities with the legendary 4G63T.
Brennan and other "enthusiasts" complain about no AWD on the third gen but didn't show up to buy it in the second gen. SMH
I think it’s a fine car. No hate here especially for the price.
The outlander spot 2.4l gt is a fun car
the first and second gen awd eclipse/talons were 50/50 awd.
I loved my eclipse gt it was a very fun car for a high schooler to have and i never saw any other gts in my area only the 4 cyl variations so i felt like my car was more rare than it was
These with single ov cam 3.0 aka 6g72 with a 6 speed are fun tho throw and compliments my VR4
This was a good car if you took care of it. Can you review the Montero next time.
I'd love to see someone do a second gen engine and drivetrain swap I to a 3rd gen, if they haven't already done it!
look up 3g evolution, 4g63t swapped awd 3g making 1000whp
Evo IV-IX drivetrain can swap in
affordable and reliable car I would recommend
fun fact the 2g eclipse in the first f&f was a na fwd 2g eclipse
Should do the 4th gen 2009 to 2012 model. Really looks like the 2nd Gen a lot to me
Inown this and love it. Didnt realise people hate it. I've received many compliments while driving it.
As an Evo X owner, these were an abomination and a clear sign of the end of Mitsu.
These were ridiculously popular when they came out.
8:18 looks like your tire is kinda low on air
That eclipse would have been badass with the mivec V6 from the 4th gen eclipse
That first gen was mean…my buddy had one, well it was a talon but same difference. That thing was SICK
Previous owner had a crazy gf or bf. Notice the XO scratched into the door at 4:47 😆
I went through a string of Eclipses (Eclipsi? 🤭) back in the day: 1996 RS (manual), 2000 GT (manual), 2003 GS (not manual). They were all just fine for decent fun and not getting into too much trouble. Sad what the car and the company has become.