Shocking Revelations We Now Know About The Death Of WCW
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Who Really Killed WCW?
Topics Discussed In this Video:
1. Most Shocking Revelations We Now Know About The Death Of WCW
2. Who Was Responsible for the Death of WCW
3. Who Killed WCW
4. Things We Learned From Vice's "Who Killed WCW" Documentary
5. Wrestlelamia - Zábava
I knew Vince Russo had a big ego, but I didn’t fully understand how big it is until watching the documentary.
I can understand why Jim Cornette HATES him now. 😂
when u decide to live a healthy lifestyle just to outlive someone younger than u to piss on their grave? yeah, the hate is special lol
I want to argue against Bischoff being in your list;
but, I know I’d be mad wrong if I did.
@@solascripturaPR1517 Even though he has a big ego too, I’d rather deal with Bischoff than Russo.
To be fair, Cornette seems to hate everybody
@@decker528 You ain’t wrong.
Honestly to me, for behind the scenes revolations, David Arquette asking Booker about the world title was a real eye opener. You could tell it was all down hill from there.
Many answer about "who killed WCW" after I watch that documenter series :
- AOL Time Warner
- Turner Corporate
- Turner Sports
- Brad Siegel (Kevin Nash mentioned him) but Brad Siegel says "WCW killed itself"
- Eric Bischoff
- Vince Russo
- Vince Russo says "business decision is killed WCW"
- Hulk Hogan?
More like everyone at Turner except Ted Turner killed WCW
Everyone is blaming each other for the demise of WCW while Bret Hart calls out everyone xD
Even though Bret was partly at fault for going to WcW to begin with
When I think about WCW it brings me back to my childhood back in the 90s and it also makes me want to Play WCW Revenge on the Nintendo 64
😎👍
The pictures for the video are hilarious..🤣🤣
Something briefly mentioned was Ted Turner lost control of his Turner assets as the company grew due to mergers. Along with WCW, his other "toys" like the Braves and Hawks were also sold. The local TBS channel in Atlanta was also sold and TBS became a cable only channel. It is impossible to own private interests in a public company as more and more shareholders come in.
Yea AOL played Turner big time.
Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo = the three stooges who killed WCW
wasn't russo it was already in the toilet before russo signed it was hulk and biscoff
WCW was slowly going into downhill spiral prior to Vince Russo being hired on as lead writer he just accelerated it.
Was Bill Goldberg
Wrong
I'd say the TV station canceling their programming thus making it all but worthless to potential buyers.
I can see why throwing Rey into the trailer was the right choice. Aside from the size difference it would literally be less impactful.
Hogan, Hall, and Nash while revived wrestling for a time, ultimately destroyed WCW
Every time Russo says Bro, I lose a few brain cells
lol apparently he said it like 353 times the whole 4 episodes run
I can’t watch his interviews because of that, lol
Thank God for osmosis.
“ That politician hulk Hogan “
Damn straight, there's no other way. I wouldn't give up my spot either and anyone that says otherwise is just lying.
Nope check your facts, 2 vs. 1 Hogan and Bischoff are both on the same page it was Russos nonesne.
Bishoff telling Tony S to announce Mick Foley winning the WWE title was the beginning of the end
I would say the Hogan/Sting Starrcade '97 fiasco was the true begin of the end for WCW.
@@DBoy38yeah their biggest match to have a double finish really ruined the long story they built up the match with
Eric Bichoff joining the NWO was the beginning of the downfall
That ship was already sinking by that time. Starcade 97 You build Sting for over a year to BEAT Hogan only for that disaster finish. Halloween Havoc 98 is up there to where HOgan had to get his Mania 6 win back from Warrior in a match NO ONE wanted
@@DBoy38 No it wasn't. WCW made record profits the next year.
The product was circling the drain. What boggles me is Eric would have bought for around 60M(with investors), yet after the deal first fell, they sold the whole thing to Vince for like 4M. The library alone was worth at least 5x that amount.
You can blame snobby "elites" that thought wrestling was beneath thm on TELEVISION. And i can't remember what replaced Nitro but it was probably some generic movie of the week or some crappy tv show reruns......
I personally choose Vince Russo as the culprit. WCW was already dying, but instead of giving it a peaceful death, he gave it an ultimate kill shot.
WCW was on life support when Russo took over but he definitely sped up the process wit his booking tho
Like Bill Goldberg said, "If I wanted to hurt Vince Russo, he'd be in the ground".
6:35 Russo is lying about the cage spear. Lance storm has said in a shoot interview that fit finely saved Russo by adding some more padding to the barricade that Russo was supposed to hit. It you go back and see where Russos head hits you can see the black padding. Thanks fit!
Speaking of which, Wrestlelamia, wasnt there a Behind The Titantron or Final Bell that was about the Death of WCW too? I remember it from years ago but its been gone for a while. Wish it was back.
Should be saved in a playlist if I believe.
@@jknight1984 I've looked everywhere I can and it's gone, as if it's been delisted or removed entirely.
Edit: I just found where it is, it's in the Final Bell season 2 playlist, it's literally the thumbnail, but unavailable. I wish it was back.
@@kosakukawajiri5007 damn.
Hulk hogan might have contributed to the demise of wcw but he was also instrumental to it's success in the 1st place
The fact that David Arquette winning the belt was Tony Schovoine idea is what got me.
The nwo wouldn't have worked aw well with sting. Hogan turning was a bigger shock but more importantly hogan wasn't the face to lead the charge against the nwo. It would have been him it just wouldn't have been as interesting
Goldberg spearing Russo might be the highlight of Goldberg’s career.
Weird Hogan said it was a last minute decision the evening of the event originally it was Sting. He was approached when the outsiders were gaining steam and he turned it down initially. So Hulk says they came to him with the idea and Bishoff said it was Hogans idea.
Hogan also said he said he needed to turn heel years before on the Rogan podcast which is poppy cock. Your timeline is the correct one, they left some stuff off the cutting room floor here. As Bischoff was only there with Hogan to ask him again to be the third man.
Excellent video
I never liked seeing Russo on tv when i was a kid
Same
"According to eric bischoff" should be an oxymoron.
The guy had all the talent and lost it all .😂
And again more great WRESTLING CONTENT 😎
While WWF was starting matches and progressing the storylines WCW had Hogan on the microphone for a full hour or 45 minutes LOL
Wrong. You weirdos need to stop with the revisionist history
Time passes, but the memories last forever.
If they really wanted to save WCW and give it a chance they would’ve given it other days to be on tv. Saturday or Sunday mornings. The wrestling audience used to watch wrestling mainly on the weekends before Monday night Raw in 1993. Might’ve worked.
They had a Saturday morning and a Saturday evening show. In fact, the last WCW show ever broadcast was the Saturday morning show.
@@drmgiverdrmgiver5335 indeed. Also WWF in the 1980s was Saturday morning staple. Superstars
@@Hoovie9596 so it clearly didn't work.
@@drmgiverdrmgiver5335 Vince wanted live prime time. He shifted the audience. WCW could’ve shifted it back. TBS had the original WCW show 605 pm Saturdays before all this Monday night war mess. And they did fine
How many wrestling superstar hated hulk hogan in real life of wrestling on the list:
1) The Undertaker.
2) Bret Hart.
3) Steve Austin.
4) Shawn Michaels.
5) Macho Man.
6) Sting.
7) Ric Flair.
8) Scott Steiner.
9) Andre the Giant.
10) CM Punk.
11) Yokozuna.
12) Godfather.
13) Owen Hart.
14) John Cena.
15) Vince McMahon.
16) Brock Lesnar.
Me as well
I hate him too. Very egotistical, massive racist, huge liar and highly overrated in the ring. McMahon is probably worse than Hogan but I do agree with you putting him here because they did had real life tension over the years.
Bischoff actually wanted to turn Heel earlier, but Hogan said no.
Thunder was Ted Turner's idea. Bischoff couldn't say no. When Bischoff went to TBS, they said they didn't have the funds to spare for the show. So he had no choice.
If you haven't watched it, Bre actually admits that Goldberg warned him about the kick & they show 2 angles. In the 2nd angle you can see Bret get his hand up to block the kick. Bret knew exactly what was going on.
We been knew this info. Eric Bishoff talked about this countless times on his podcasts
The show is the show, and when the egos of the talent are prioritized over the show, the show itself suffers, and the audience will walk away. This almost killed off the WWE on more than one occasion. This is what killed WCW. This is what will eventually kill AEW.
This right here 100%
AEW will sign Shane McMahon
Hogan, Nash, Eric, Vince were the talent responsible along with the corporate guys who hated the company.
If you been a fan since this period in time you already knew 90%+ of the stuff in this “doc”.
Good content for people tuning in after the recent success in WWE
True but some people like me didn't watch WCW every night when it came on.
@@DavidS4209 There were magazines & dirt shirts back then so 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️.
I know people hate on Nash beating Goldberg - but to Nash's point, look how crazy the crowd goes during the pin. He was MASSIVELY over at the time.
That whole series could have been done much better, they should have had Hogan , Sting, Flair, Jericho, Steiner, Jarret, Sid and Mysterio in the interviews instead of Konan
Felt like there was a lot left out, I know Rock produced it but his presence didn’t add anything to the whole series
I watched WCW since i was a little kid in the 80's up until early 2000's. When i look back i realize i lost interest when Russo showed up.
W vid maina
Hulk revived it then backstabbed it first, bischoff gave it alcohol to bleed out faster, Russo gave it pills to put it out permanently, Bischoff refusing to acknowledge Hogan started the demise proves they are main culprits.
Ted Turner’s mugshot should be there too.
If it wasn't for Ted Turner WCW would have been on the chopping block YEARS before it was. The Execs couldnt throw WCW off the air because it was still Turners network. untill the merger
@@americanbadass88 if Turner would have forced a little financial responsibility on them, they might not have been broke in the end.
That was a group effort. Everyone involved was apart of the demise of WCW. From Eric Bishoff. Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash Vince Russo. And all the people behind the scenes at Turner.
Vince McMahon single handedly is the reason why WCW & ECW Failed! Bought both companies with absolutely no plan on how to capitalize on them. All that talent and potential was squandered. 😢
He bought em out of spite and buried their biggest stars that agreed to work for him. Afew made it through the cracks and got over. RVD and Booker were two major ones who Vince couldn’t hold down. Took Booker awhile but he got over. And any big hitters they brought in later they buried but what didn’t help them were some came on board at the latter ends of their careers or when they were in bad physical shape.
Vince McMahon is smarter than that. He got close to ECW to kill it. He got to get close to their talent, and when TNN made the deal with ECW, Vince McMahon had TNN replace ECW with WWF Raw. Vince McMahon had people in the inside screwing WCW.
WWF took top ECW talent, and use that fan base to help him beat WCW in the ratings.
Every time ECW got a talent, & let them shine, Vince McMahon would snatch them. He took Austin, Foley & Lita from Paul Heyman. If Heyman had the Money he could've ruled wrestling. He just needed to make the adjustments the WWF and WCW were trying to do.
Not like Vince Russo, if you watch the Documentary, he did lots of trash TV.
And getting the Title right after Arguette had it, hurt the lineage of the WCW Titled even further.
Uh no.... Towards the end of WCW, they was struggling to the point where they had Vince Russo & David Arquette win their World title. That had nothing to do with Vince McMahon. WCW was on the decline at that point.
Man y’all still believe that conspiracy of McMahon sending Russo to kill WCW. Here’s the problem with that claim, WCW was already struggling and on their deathbed before Vince bought it. Yes he ruined a lot of the talent there because he’s a petty and egotistical pos but WCW already had gone downhill once the finger poke of doom and Warriors return happened.
@@dmercy8477 Maybe it could've done better had Russo not gone there. He did too much trash TV. Even though I think if someone helped McMahon, it could've been anyone. Nash, Hogan, even Bischoff. They did their stuff there, but the booking Nash did, the money that was thrown away, & the chaos the wrestlers caused, politics & so much more.
5:03 Those were dark times when Russo took over as head writer...
Rey Mysterio tossed through window would've work with fake glass. Him hanging half way inside through the window would've possibly looked more dangerous. His fall wasn't as bad as Ricochet.
WCW is still badly missed
Everyone except Sting
The telliing of Cactus Jack title win is what really f up their ratings..
WCW WCW WCW oh God i hate Goldberg
We know that Goldberg has an ego. He has the right to have one since he won plenty of world titles. Sorry but backstage politics sucks, but sometimes you can use your name and power to get what you want in the wrestling business.
It was the merger plain and simple. Those that say otherwise are simply wrong and just parroting what they hear others say.
Well the main issue is no one ever asked Jamie Kellner if he would have kept it if the ratings and or finances where still good. Or if another network would have picked it up. If both of those answers are no then yeah 100% the merger.
He ruined two incredible title runs kelvin Owens and The Fiend 2019
Kelvin?
Lmao. Kelvin Owens is Kevin's nerdy brother.
@@WilDBeestMFI heard him and Brain Strowman hang out
And they gave the title to Brick Lesnar.
@@DeadEye42069 Them two and Cory Roads are like the 3 stooges at the bar, I heard.
This video is supposed to be about the death of WCW but they put rey wanting to be put through glass as part of the demise? Really?
Undertaker killed WCW slowly when he signed with wwf
hogan: this ain't gonna work for me brother, filing a defamation of character class action law suit
Really ironic that I ended up watching Hulk Hogan wrassling app, for 5 seconds and his face is on the thumbnail of this video.
I say what killed WCW was when Crockett sold it. They were completely devoted to pro wrestling. After that, it was all built on a fractured foundation.
Tony shiovani with his suggestion of Arquette..lol
can u do Shocking Revelations We Now Know About The Death Of ECW
2:17 “Eric Bischoff revealed that Hogan was the one responsible for the nonsensical Starrcade ‘97 match.” . . . I feel like all knew that, Eric
What does the Rey thing have to do with the death of WCW ?
Nothing. This video is bait.
Wait, I thought it was Eric Bischoff’s idea for Hogan to turn heel and Hogan was the reluctant one.
Correct.
Bischoff had ask Hogan to turn Heel, but he wouldn't, but when he saw the opportunity to team with Hall and Nash he took advantage of it.
I think if Bret Hart hadn't resigned with WWF, I think they were preparing that spot for him.
But Bret Hart resigned, but after his fight with Shawn Michaels, I feel Michaels told Vince McMahon he would leave if Bret Hart was still there.
Michaels being the younger of the two.
Vince McMahon choice HBK over Bret.
That's why they tried to Brets popularity, just before he left. Bret Hart said this himself.
I think Vince McMahon made an excuse on why he couldn't honor Bret Harts contract. The contract wasn't that big, but it was lengthy. Vince McMahon made lots of money from Bret Hart just in Canada.
So I firmly believe ñ, HBK , Vince McMahon plotted his downfall.
Yeah it's an oversimplification that they presented in the show. Pretty sure the complete story is in controversy creates cash. Bisch had floated the idea of Hogan turning heel and he said no. Then when the NWO took off so hot Hogan said that in the trailer but it was more Bischoff going to Hogan with the intent of asking him to be the third man then it is presented here.
I wonder if Hulk Hogan ever has creative control when he would wrestle in Japan
Hulk Hogan is a weak era champion of wrestling.
He's like the Babe Ruth of wrestling. Iconic but there was definitely better afterwards. Plus he's a dumpster fire outside of wrestling
I don't think there is a time Hogan couldn't be blamed for most things in wrestling
If WCW had been sold to literally anyone else other than WWE, they would have survived...provided they did a lot of recuperation after their last year and a half. 2000 lost a lot of interest.
Look at the Hulk Hogan horrible dark past history of wrestling career on the list:
1) ego’s and selfish.
2) steroid abuser.
3) he’s a liar and racist.
4) using a backstage politics by holding a younger wrestler talented back.
5) destroying WCW and TNA wrestling company.
6) he got banned from AEW wrestling company by Tony Khan.
7) he’s never about the wrestling business, it’s all about him.
"That doesn't work for me brother." - Hulk Hogan when asked to put someone over
While he clearly made some mistakes all in all I think Bischoff did what he could with a bad hand.
Hulk Hogan = Moe
Eric Bischoff = Larry
Vince Russo = Curly
Kavin Nash needs a sign that says, " and i helped"
Russo is definitely problematic, but the filter narrative should die. Look at the product now that Mcmahon is not filtering the creative team now.
Kimberly Page 😍 😍 😍
Two Words: Jamie Kellner Killed WCW And He's Dead.
Two Words? 🤣🤣
Imagine if John Cena went to AEW and turned heel. That would definitely spike up the viewers and bring in so many fans like Hogan did for WCW
Russo had, has and ever will have main character syndrome.
Only reason this didn't work in WWE was, Vince was even more so.
Jamie Kellner killed WCW
Jamie Kellner was officially the one who ended it
..all these years thought it was Vince McMahon
eh Goldberg comments about Bret at this point are justified, Bret is just a depressing old man now who can't let things go. How many times does someone have too apologize for an accident? he has every right to be pissed off with Bret i would be to, It's just as Bischoff has put it Bret is a bitter unhappy person and he has been for years, And don't get me wrong i like Bret but it's clear when it comes to anything wrestling he is the definition of old man yelling at cloud.
And say what you want about Goldberg but he was one of the biggest draws in WCW and still even when he returned had value as a special attraction.
Beside those 3 on video i would also say kevin nash and scott hall and lack of a story after nwo. Nash and hall and hogan demanded so much power and money. Also the guy made un of jim ross after his disease
Old-berg made himself look grumpy AF
The Undertaker: The GOAT of wrestling.
Hulk Hogan: The RAT of wrestling.
RAT stands for
Mark Calaway is one of the Safest Workers out there. My all time favorite Wrestler. I'll never understood why Bollea has to LIE about having to be Tombstoned by Calaway.
@@Tornado1994 Being a safe worker doesn't draw money. Hogan drew more money in the business than anyone.
Bischoff got off easy TBH
WrestleLamia do a video why ECW DIED
Vince Russo in WCW was the same as James Gunn running dc comics. Sounded cool on paper but they are utterly unqualified
You don’t know what “infamous” means
Seems like they couldn't wait to get rid of WCW off their network
'...lies, tell me sweet little lies...'
I liked WCW Thunder
Three guys with their head up in the clouds and an ego to match. Shame how it went down.
Can someone tell me where I can watch this documentary really fast?
Vice TV network or try You Tube they have free episodes.
El Dandy killed WCW. He was not a jam up guy. 😞
I hated Vince Russo, and he should get most of the blame for ending WCW.
Wait WCW failed?
-Slowpoke
You forgot Kevin Nash in that picture! Should be the four of them!
Please let's never talk about the death of WCW, Montreal screw job, Monday night wars, or the curtain call. It's all been covered to death
It’s still covered, because enough people are still interested
I watched the first episode and saw nothing new. I haven’t watched the rest.
Sorry buddy it's part of wrestling history 😊
@@shanewise6769because it's the same stuff we have heard over and ovet
@@junkscorpion7011so is chris benoit but hardly anyone talks about him.
To be honest Vince put the final nail in the coffin. 😂
Vince told Vince Russo that put wcw out of business
David Arquette so skinny standing beside any wrestler