The Story of WCW Thunder - The Unwanted Wrestling Show

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    The success and huge popularity of WCW Monday Nitro led to the creation of WCW Thunder, a new live wrestling show that would debut in 1998. Ted Turner wanted Thunder to air on the TBS Superstation while WCW Nitro would continue airing on TNT, showing the immense popularity of World Championship Wrestling at the time. WCW Executive Producer Eric Bischoff, however, did not want to create another live TV Show. It's been reported that the creation of Thunder was centered around Turner Broadcasting wanting to boost their weekend advertiser revenue with the male demographic, and TBS felt that a Thursday wrestling show was the way to do it.
    At the time, nobody created more live wrestling than Eric Bischoff and WCW. With resources and storylines already stretched thin, Bischoff said that a second live TV show would dilute the current WCW product. Turner had already made up his mind though, and WCW Thunder would debut on TV much to the dismay of Eric Bischoff and quite a few main event superstars. This video looks at the creation of Thunder, the challenges WCW and Eric Bischoff faced when putting the show together, and we'll also look at the first episode of WCW Thunder.
    00:00 - Why WCW Thunder was created
    04:45 - Bischoff faces challenges when creating Thunder
    12:10 - The first episode of WCW Thunder
    17:54 - The Giant, Meng, Goldberg and Scott Hall matches
    21:19 - Ric Flair, Bret Hart, DDP and Nash appear on Thunder
    - Much More!
    #WCW #Wrestling #Documentary
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  • @pataker7875
    @pataker7875 Před 3 lety +363

    As a 14/15 year old; anything they would produce I’d watch,

    • @Tweet_Wrestling
      @Tweet_Wrestling Před 3 lety +6

      Me too.

    • @Tweet_Wrestling
      @Tweet_Wrestling Před 3 lety +20

      @BxxDxx Hoodoo Born 1985. Love my teenage wrestling years.

    • @JGD185
      @JGD185 Před 3 lety +7

      @@Tweet_Wrestling it was so good switching back and forth to nitro and raw

    • @Tweet_Wrestling
      @Tweet_Wrestling Před 3 lety +7

      @@JGD185 Friday Nights for us in the UK. 9pm Nitro... 10pm Raw. My bro, and 2 close friends would watch every week. Sadly one of y good friends is no longer with us. I miss them days so much.

    • @Smokey1419
      @Smokey1419 Před 3 lety +9

      I was 11 and i wanted all the WCW i could get at that time. The first time i ever heard Sting speak was on Thunder.

  • @actionjackson4982
    @actionjackson4982 Před 3 lety +170

    "Goldberg doesn't get paid by the hour." I can't stop laughing 🤣🤣

  • @drewfava6455
    @drewfava6455 Před 3 lety +260

    Wwe did smackdown rite you diddent need cable to watch it upn network television all you needed was a antenna. For a poor kid that liked wrestling it was great.

    • @thekidfromiowa
      @thekidfromiowa Před 3 lety +6

      I never got UPN in my neck of the woods :( However my WB affiliate would carry Smackdown on Saturday afternoons by 2001.

    • @guevara7E
      @guevara7E Před 3 lety +11

      As a poor kid growing up it was awesome to finally watchWWF on regular TV. Up until then friends would tell me what happened on RAW. There was a spanish channel segment of WWF on regular tv but it was a lot of unknown wrestlers and no audience lol.

    • @jeremyhassell7911
      @jeremyhassell7911 Před 2 lety +2

      No doubt, still to this day!

    • @ShadowCloutJutsu
      @ShadowCloutJutsu Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah in the beginning later when the brands split in like 04 it was so hard to watch smackdown had to buy a package with certain channels luckily I learned to find em online but in the beginning 00-01 it was great Mondays RAW/Nitro, Thursday Thunder,& Fridays Smackdown

    • @shaeserfoss7350
      @shaeserfoss7350 Před rokem +3

      I agree honestly as a poor kid growing up we didn’t have cable just an antenna and maybe a handful of channels

  • @youngimperialistmkii
    @youngimperialistmkii Před 3 lety +62

    The moral of the story is "Don't get greedy".

  • @juniorsanchez7441
    @juniorsanchez7441 Před 3 lety +79

    The fact that anybody could boo an Ultimo Dragon match, especially back then is baffling to me

    • @BreadHart
      @BreadHart Před 3 lety +3

      Because most of the audience was compose of idiot jocks that like to fu*** their own american football helmet, because the cheerleader broke up with them.

    • @VintageWrestlingFan
      @VintageWrestlingFan Před 2 lety +4

      @@BreadHart as opposed to basement dwelling losers who don't work and don't have a GF?

  • @bullhorn14
    @bullhorn14 Před 3 lety +168

    Without the creation of Thunder, there will not be SmackDown. Just like the WCW Power Plant was the precursor to the WWE Performance Center.

  • @colechung7806
    @colechung7806 Před 3 lety +65

    WCW and ECW had basically the best cruiserweight matches and division and it's what made me love cruiserweight division

    • @declangaming24
      @declangaming24 Před rokem +1

      WCW has the money could do anything sign who they feel like Have WCW without the stupid contracts and Poor creative it could of beat WWE and ECW. ECW was good with there working agreement With WWE getting Tazz, Al snow ect it was Hardcore but didn't have the big budget you could co promote Pay per views with WWE or WCW to make money

    • @colechung7806
      @colechung7806 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@declangaming24true sadly

  • @wHw_Syxx
    @wHw_Syxx Před 3 lety +103

    I don't know how people can't like Mike Tenay. Growing up I learned so much professional wrestling history and what moves were called by him. Mad respect for Tenay.

    • @oldironsides4107
      @oldironsides4107 Před 2 lety +1

      There were so many greats before him. So he was the worst if you watched before tenay

    • @disciple2742
      @disciple2742 Před 2 lety +5

      I liked Tenay
      I liked him more than someone like Michael Cole

    • @Facade953
      @Facade953 Před rokem +1

      He and Jim Ross are the G.O.A.T.S.

    • @lawrencemcstephens308
      @lawrencemcstephens308 Před rokem +2

      Right!? I never heard anyone say they didn't like "The Professor" Iron Mike Tenay! I always loved his commentary because he was just such a wrestling nerd encyclopedia! I enjoyed hearing all the names of the more exotic maneuvers, the wrestlers from Japan and abroad's bios and information, and Mike was always a highlight in the announce booth on Thunder or Nitro, or even Worldwide or Saturday Night! I also really enjoyed seeing him in TNA/Impact Wrestling later on, too, when I'd watch it on occasion!

    • @kamenanew9867
      @kamenanew9867 Před rokem +2

      Mike was the best, I love that guy

  • @rayvenkman2087
    @rayvenkman2087 Před 3 lety +302

    The fact they at one point considered making Thunder the WCW show while Nitro is the NWO show just says a lot about how much NWO had overtook WCW in the worst way possible.

    • @Loewenzahnfanclub
      @Loewenzahnfanclub Před 3 lety +8

      Die NWO hatte das Problem das sie sich nie weiter entwickelten. Betrügereien und schlechte Matches gingen über Jahre. NWO Nitro hätten funktionieren können wenn sie ,die NWO, wirklich alles geändert hätten ohne diese typischen Heel Manches mit endlosen eingriffen.Hogan als "Boss " von Nitro mit Hall und Nash als 2&3 die in harten Fällen eingreifen, einen neuen Team bei den Kommentatoren und ab und an Übergriffen von den WC Thunder Leuten.Aber ansonsten cooles Wrestling.Das wurde halt nie zuende gebookt.

    • @Tony-fq5bn
      @Tony-fq5bn Před 3 lety +10

      Absolutely, I see it that and I just smh

    • @justafanofnerdculture7602
      @justafanofnerdculture7602 Před 3 lety +2

      Agreed

    • @kingisking3445
      @kingisking3445 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Loewenzahnfanclub Die Tatsache, dass sich immer Leute von der nWo einmischten und die Matches dadurch größtenteils in einer Disqualifikation endeten war für mich einer der Gründe warum WCW unterging. Einmischungen in Matches passierten viel zu oft.
      Alles war vorhersehbar und man wusste als Fan schon, dass sich das Ende eines Matches in dieser Richtung (Disqualifikation) entwickeln würde.
      Fand das wirklich schade.
      Ich mochte WCW eigentlich sehr.
      Schade, dass es so kommen musste.

    • @riding4beers889
      @riding4beers889 Před 3 lety +19

      @@Loewenzahnfanclub no one here understands what you just wrote.

  • @Eric-wu7bp
    @Eric-wu7bp Před 3 lety +117

    Thunder was the Smackdown Before Smackdown 🟦

    • @SteelRhinoXpress
      @SteelRhinoXpress Před 3 lety +33

      wwe copied thunder. Like wcw copied raw.

    • @GreatMewtwo
      @GreatMewtwo Před 3 lety +2

      @@jasperbudiono295 Meanwhile, WWF claps back with the "house show" PPV series, "In Your House".

  • @_Bruzzi
    @_Bruzzi Před 3 lety +105

    Listening to Bischoff talk about Thunder on 83 Weeks is great. Thunder was such a waste of time/money and really was the beginning of the end for WCW.

    • @_Bruzzi
      @_Bruzzi Před 3 lety +21

      @@richardnash6111 Disagree, Sting, DDP and Booker T all thrived during Bischoffs time.

    • @SteRDLK
      @SteRDLK Před 3 lety +22

      @@_Bruzzi Sting thrived when he was doing absolutely nothing other than standing in the rafters for eight months. When they had to actually book him, it went so badly.

    • @BloodBoughtMinistries1
      @BloodBoughtMinistries1 Před 3 lety +14

      Listening to bischoff is great? 5 different wrestling promotions went bankrupt listening to bischoff

    • @_Bruzzi
      @_Bruzzi Před 3 lety +7

      @@BloodBoughtMinistries1 what promotions would those 5 be?

    • @mrwhopee
      @mrwhopee Před 3 lety +6

      @@BloodBoughtMinistries1 name the 5 mark

  • @YENKOGT
    @YENKOGT Před 3 lety +58

    I think rick flair was born looking at his mid 40s... That guy always looked old.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Před 3 lety +1

      Not true. But he looked 45 from 1990-1999

    • @CoinSlotKitty
      @CoinSlotKitty Před 3 lety +7

      My dad who is nearly 65 now, always said Flair looked old when he first saw him in at shows in the south... NWA I assume

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Před 3 lety +4

      @@CoinSlotKitty definitely NWA in either Crockett, Georgia or Florida.

    • @raphaelmorrata8905
      @raphaelmorrata8905 Před 3 lety +5

      Same for hogan

    • @Primal-Weed
      @Primal-Weed Před 3 lety +1

      Lol

  • @mrowley7300
    @mrowley7300 Před 3 lety +357

    Wait people don't like Tenay? I've always enjoyed him on commentary because he's knowledgeable

    • @SartorialisticSavage65
      @SartorialisticSavage65 Před 3 lety +43

      Yeah he's cool. Surprising...

    • @thetruej7872
      @thetruej7872 Před 3 lety +36

      Ikr? That's really surprising

    • @Stumpers24
      @Stumpers24 Před 3 lety +50

      Me too. I thought he was great in TNA

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Před 3 lety +40

      He’s one of the best.

    • @sega32xxx14
      @sega32xxx14 Před 3 lety +52

      I’ve seen countless...absolutely count. less. people refer to him as complete and utter feces, however I’ve always enjoyed his commentary for the most part. For example, he FAR outpaces M. COLE as a “play by play” wrestling commentator, and that’s by a lot.

  • @dukewilliams7622
    @dukewilliams7622 Před 3 lety +48

    No lie "Iron Mike" was very informative way ahead of his time honestly especially when it came to Lucha Libre matches move names back stories etc.

    • @j.rivera6402
      @j.rivera6402 Před 3 lety +3

      There wasn’t one commentator that I didn’t like in WCW. They all had their own flavor and added value to the show.

  • @SRC267
    @SRC267 Před 3 lety +68

    I just started watching wcw. So this was a good video. Will begin watching Nitro on Monday and Thunder on Thursdays!

    • @eucalipto9724
      @eucalipto9724 Před 3 lety +5

      hey thats a fun idea!

    • @SRC267
      @SRC267 Před 3 lety +1

      @@eucalipto9724 I'll wait until I reach 1998 on Nitro, because that's when Thunder started.

    • @dandastardly2792
      @dandastardly2792 Před 2 lety +5

      I was a child when WCW was on. 2001 I turned 12. I wonder what I would remember.
      As a kid La Parka was one of my favorites.

    • @jimlthor
      @jimlthor Před 2 lety +1

      @@SRC267 best bet. you had to watch thunder to keep up with nitro at some point

    • @joesquadcoptervideos2067
      @joesquadcoptervideos2067 Před 2 lety

      Where can Thunder be watched these days? I know peacock has the WWE channel which I've seen nitro on, but it's thunder in there too?

  • @pathkeepers
    @pathkeepers Před 3 lety +20

    I remember being so excited for the Thunder PS1 game. It was a different time.

  • @crimsonking8746
    @crimsonking8746 Před 2 lety +17

    Thunder was taped on Tuesday nights at the next town WCW had a show. For instance; after Monday Nitro broadcast live from Atlanta, the next stop was usually Macon, GA. or Greenville, SC. and sometimes Chattanooga, Tennessee. Those shows would be taped and edited to air on Thursdays. That format solved the travel problems for the talent, since most of them would be at the next town anyway, contracted or not...😉👍

    • @declangaming24
      @declangaming24 Před rokem

      Yeah a lot of talent had contracts with limited dates or notices if they made thunder like a show like main event where young or veteran talent get used and work they back to nitro it would be cool

  • @jmckdekalb316
    @jmckdekalb316 Před 3 lety +114

    This was beginning of WWE’s Smackdown show.

    • @juliusharrell8166
      @juliusharrell8166 Před 3 lety +11

      WWF smackdown at the time

    • @heelspawn8023
      @heelspawn8023 Před 3 lety +20

      I wonder if The Rock gets a check every week, for WWE turning his catchphrase into a TV show..

    • @jrmop0965
      @jrmop0965 Před 3 lety +1

      They did have Sunday Night Heat also

    • @benchwarmerss9165
      @benchwarmerss9165 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jrmop0965 shotgun Saturday too

    • @ninja_tony
      @ninja_tony Před 3 lety +1

      @@heelspawn8023 it wasn't even his catchphrase. He just popularized it in pop culture, but it existed long before he ever set foot in the ring.

  • @mr83
    @mr83 Před 3 lety +111

    HEY YO! its survey time...
    How many of you are here to see WCW?
    How many of you are here for Wresting-Bios?
    ...survey says... one more for the good guys!!

  • @MN_-
    @MN_- Před 3 lety +103

    In 1998 thunder was pretty good they had the big stars on it storylines progressing and great matches but by the beginning of 1999 it was an obvious filler show. I always thought the night time city set design and lighting was awesome

    • @King_Kunta
      @King_Kunta Před 3 lety +10

      I went to a thunder in 98 in philly as a kid. Great show that night

    • @unclebizz9522
      @unclebizz9522 Před 3 lety

      accurate!

    • @blackguy322
      @blackguy322 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, I thought Thunder was initially awesome. Granted I think I switched over to Wwf around the time Sting joined red and black nwo

  • @violagreene4643
    @violagreene4643 Před 2 lety +8

    I always saw the breakdown of roles at the commentary booth as follows:
    Schiavone: corporate pitch man and straight man
    Tenay: covered the physical aspects and techniques
    Heenan/Zbyszko: covered the psychology
    The physical aspects can seem a bit dry to some viewers, so I can believe that some people didn't like Tenay, but it seems that that portion of the audience is larger than I would have thought.

  • @kelvin19888
    @kelvin19888 Před 3 lety +70

    WCW Thunder was heavily slept on I actually liked it

    • @dco2006
      @dco2006 Před 3 lety +2

      I slept *during* Thunder.
      You always knew the predictable outcomes, too. Some heel from nWo would finally lose their belt on the just occurred Nitro, and then 3 seconds after, you'd say to your friend or brother "yeah, he's dropping that to the guy he just won the belt from in the main event on Thunder."

    • @tegofido
      @tegofido Před 3 lety

      Yes

    • @danielr4640
      @danielr4640 Před 3 lety

      I did too

    • @HTAD111111
      @HTAD111111 Před 2 lety

      Especially when Kev got on commentary

  • @ajconnor1983
    @ajconnor1983 Před 3 lety +15

    The amount of talent in wrestling at that time will never happen again. Once in a lifetime. Dozens of main event top tier talent! Insane.

  • @rayvenkman2087
    @rayvenkman2087 Před 3 lety +23

    I think Thunder would have been easier for WCW to produce if Thunder consisted of Monday Night Nitro highlights and matches that couldn’t make it onto the Nitro program that week due to the runtime.

    • @richardstephens5570
      @richardstephens5570 Před 3 lety +6

      They also could have featured the U.S. and cruiserweight titles on Thunder, leaving the world and tag titles on Nitro.

    • @danielrierson6683
      @danielrierson6683 Před rokem

      I agree the roster was too big. They should have split it up like raw and smackdown

  • @ReaverPrime
    @ReaverPrime Před 3 lety +14

    I never understood the distaste for Mike Tenay. I've always loved the Professor. His knowledge of the game and quick on the trigger calls always made him one of the best at the desk. Especially his calls on cruiserweight matches.
    My guess on the hate is that he's always been at "the competition" and never in WWE, so folk probably hate on him for that.

    • @ReaverPrime
      @ReaverPrime Před 3 lety

      @BxxDxx Hoodoo He wasn't color. He was the prototypical play-by-play guy. Knowledge was his draw. His personality didn't need to matter. That's what the color guy is there for.

    • @ReaverPrime
      @ReaverPrime Před 3 lety

      @BxxDxx Hoodoo Proving my point.

    • @AmateurBarbarian
      @AmateurBarbarian Před 3 lety +1

      I’ve just never seen why Tenay is a professor of anything except third-rate wrestling.

    • @mrwhopee
      @mrwhopee Před 3 lety

      Tenay was awesome

  • @CardPlayingStrategies
    @CardPlayingStrategies Před 3 lety +25

    3 hour Nitros was the straw that broke the camel's back

    • @philmcrackinnow
      @philmcrackinnow Před 3 lety +3

      I had to put ice cubes down my shirt just so I could stay awake to watch the main event.

    • @bennylegend7556
      @bennylegend7556 Před 3 lety +6

      Raw hasn't learned the lesson.

    • @thekidfromiowa
      @thekidfromiowa Před 3 lety +1

      2 hour Raws are part of what made the Attitude Era great. Nitro was 7-10 while Raw was 8-10 and so you could watch Nitro while waiting for Raw to start.

    • @VintageWrestlingFan
      @VintageWrestlingFan Před 2 lety

      3 hours killed Nitro and its been killing Raw since 2012... ratings for Raw are in the toilet

  • @PlatinumRoseLady
    @PlatinumRoseLady Před 3 lety +39

    First match of Thunder - Chris Adams vs. Randy Savage w/Elizabeth
    My brain: Everybody involved in this match is dead.
    I really REALLY hate my brain sometimes.

    • @Azriel1932
      @Azriel1932 Před 3 lety +8

      I have the same thought when I watch old Raw shows with the Hart Foundation and the original DX 🙁.

    • @PlatinumRoseLady
      @PlatinumRoseLady Před 3 lety +3

      @@Azriel1932I feel ya.

    • @Emporkommling
      @Emporkommling Před 3 lety +6

      I was watching a Radicalz match the other day and realized they're three dead guys and Dean Malenko. Much like how the Hart Foundation is four dead guys and Bret Hart.

    • @PlatinumRoseLady
      @PlatinumRoseLady Před 3 lety +1

      @@Emporkommling Well now I'm depressed.

    • @PlatinumRoseLady
      @PlatinumRoseLady Před 3 lety +15

      @@Emporkommling Um, Perry Saturn isn't dead, dude.

  • @jonmichael3280
    @jonmichael3280 Před 3 lety +15

    I just wanna say something. As a kid I was big on no interference and the actual clean finishers to end the match! So while Thunder lost touch near the end it was still pretty straight forward. Same goes for Sunday night heat, and Shotgun Saturday Night! I really liked the bottom tier shows cuz I guess I loved the traditional approach rather than the constant interference and what not you'd sometimes get on the main shows

    • @notanundercovercop8851
      @notanundercovercop8851 Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah, like 90% of the matches on Nitro would end in DQ. It's like, you had to order a PPV if you actually wanted to see legit finishes.

  • @arciks11
    @arciks11 Před 3 lety +67

    Eric may have a point about about Thunder being the real beginning of the end. But with way Nitro was booked (NWO Nitro being given a test run after NWO Souled Out bombed) dilution and stagnation was already starting to set in without Thunder.

    • @burntvirtue
      @burntvirtue Před 3 lety +13

      Regardless of what Bischoff says, the way he allowed the finish to Starrcade 97 to happen was the REAL beginning of the end. WCW's real run in terms of legit value was July 96 - Dec 97. That's it.

  • @the-NightStar
    @the-NightStar Před 3 lety +5

    I liked Thunder for one reason. It was basically the "Cruiserweights and Chris Jericho show". I remember putting Thunder on, and not caring about anything much, but would look up occasionally at the screen while I was working on things, just to get a glimpse of a good cruiseweight match, or to pay attention whenever Chris Jericho was doing something. The rest of the time, Thunder was just background noise.

  • @ryanrusso2954
    @ryanrusso2954 Před 3 lety +14

    Glad this channel is blowing up.Your content is of a certain quality

  • @manuelchavarria
    @manuelchavarria Před 3 lety +16

    You'd think Bret could've pointed out that he beat Ric Flair for that first WWF title

    • @martifrey3357
      @martifrey3357 Před 3 lety +1

      you can't say that because many people didn't know that and it ruins the "they never met before" feeling. When Hogan faced Andre at WM 3 they made it look like as if they had never met before but they had had countless matches before

    • @j.rivera6402
      @j.rivera6402 Před 3 lety

      He did on the following Nitro.

  • @AntonioJCRM
    @AntonioJCRM Před 3 lety +25

    Eric and the higher ups were all complaining about WCW being over exposed because of Thunder but that's just lame excuses. They had an enormous roster and still kept pushing NWO down our throats. Their was no ambition to even produce the show as a flag ship. How did Smackdown survived then. At one time SD was better than RAW on a weekly basis. Before the brand split u actually couldn't wait to watch SD that Thursday to follow up.

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 Před 3 lety +2

      The reason smackdown was good because it finally came back to regular TV. if you look at on regular TV there was nothing that we had other than WWE Superstars / shotgun Saturday night slash Jack or metal whatever the hell they had.

    • @javontemorant4701
      @javontemorant4701 Před 2 lety +4

      @@attiepollard7847 Smackdown still produced good quality. We can have a promo on Raw and the 2 stars who did the promo would have a great match on SD.
      Or if a multiman match was taking place on PPV we'll see a few stars colliede on SD while the others might have appeared on Raw.

  • @th1545
    @th1545 Před 3 lety +4

    Sat in the row behind raven's flock that first Thunder in Daytona, had a BLAST! "How many people came to see dubya C dubya?" Loved Hall and Nash LOL

  • @Mjwara
    @Mjwara Před 3 lety +73

    The strange thing is SmackDown came after Thunder and it became more successful than Thunder.

    • @Yehoshua.Robles
      @Yehoshua.Robles Před 3 lety +11

      The main event was lit. Rock vs hhh with Shawn as ref.

    • @freddiejohnson6137
      @freddiejohnson6137 Před 3 lety +18

      It helps when Smackdown started that it was used to more people an opportunity and to actually continue many feuds to expand on them. The majority of Thunder was full of meaningless matches that were just put there to fill time.

    • @Tony-fq5bn
      @Tony-fq5bn Před 3 lety +4

      @@freddiejohnson6137 Ya, Eric was just stretched to thin mentally. He had all the talent in the world to work with lol, WcW had soooooo many wrestlers, and personalities, had Vince McMahon been in that position Thunder probably woulda been amazing.

    • @thomascolella8341
      @thomascolella8341 Před 3 lety +3

      Yea but the wrestlers was only doing 180 shows per year including house shows. Wwf at the time expected you to do 300 dates pee year

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Před 3 lety +1

      Nothing strange about a show with fresh action and all the stars outperforms a clear B-Show that does tons of recaps and that most of the stars try to avoid even attending.

  • @MrTwille
    @MrTwille Před 3 lety +9

    Looking Back Wcw Thunder is More like a Velocity or Sunday Night Heat than a Smackdown

    • @ronaldfarrington7146
      @ronaldfarrington7146 Před 3 lety +3

      Least Heat back than was good show for a Sunday

    • @TRJ2241987
      @TRJ2241987 Před 3 lety +3

      HeAT in late 98/1999 was an EXCELLENT show. Better than Thunder. They didn't water down HeAT until after Y2K. In late '99 WWF was putting on 3 really good shows each week

    • @MrTwille
      @MrTwille Před 3 lety

      @@TRJ2241987 agreed. I actually forgot how much I like Heat. Heat actually made me like minor shows .

    • @davisdomain2071
      @davisdomain2071 Před 3 lety +2

      Shootgun Saturday Night

    • @socallawrence
      @socallawrence Před rokem +1

      @@davisdomain2071 Haha I remember shotgun Sat night

  • @TheFriendlyWeirdo
    @TheFriendlyWeirdo Před 3 lety +8

    Eric Bischoff may be someone who has mixed results when it comes to his creative direction, but the work he puts in when he’s involved in wrestling, especially WCW, cannot be denied.

  • @eldiablo3794
    @eldiablo3794 Před 3 lety +20

    During this era I was straight WWF all day. I would literally get in arguments with my WCW friends on the bus to elementary school every morning about how WWF is way better and all the wash ups go to WCW.. but I will be honest I did watch Thursday night thunder just to get my wrestling fix until the next Monday night raw episode aired lol.

    • @landeny65
      @landeny65 Před 3 lety +7

      But man, this was that sweet spot where I loved both companies. Being a teenager in the late 90’s was just awesome.

  • @Stumpers24
    @Stumpers24 Před 3 lety +55

    Ultimo dragon was my favorite cruiserweight back then. Would you ever consider doing an ultimo dragon video?

    • @acidkyledaLSDj
      @acidkyledaLSDj Před 3 lety +6

      Man I'm waiting for wrestling bios to start doing some japanese wrestlers . Muta , chono , tanahashi, onita , baba, inoki, etc etc etc the list is endless for international talents that have graced the squared circle ⭕ 🤠

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Před 3 lety +6

      @@acidkyledaLSDj he’ll have to have Dave from Dave Knows Wrestling back on, Ryan says himself that he’s not super knowledgeable on Japanese wrestling.

    • @blesstv8994
      @blesstv8994 Před 3 lety +4

      I love Ultimo Dragon

    • @Jiren261
      @Jiren261 Před 3 lety +2

      He done Muta in the U.S, but I'd like to see ones about Ultimo Dragon, Eddie Guerrero, Liger in the U.S

  • @marlowstanfield6815
    @marlowstanfield6815 Před 3 lety +12

    Love the Q Tip intro..

  • @dz7172
    @dz7172 Před 3 lety +85

    If WcW Thunder could talk: “I’m fooked”

  • @maodijong3661
    @maodijong3661 Před 3 lety +12

    Man 1997 was such a huge year for WCW on TV, Luger headlining the main event to win the world title...just a couple weeks later they pulled a 5, unprecedented at the time. Do you know how WCW decided to treat the fans? To a no contest finish between Luger and Savage LOL That is why they failed.

    • @oldironsides4107
      @oldironsides4107 Před 2 lety

      That happened all the time in wrestling. Not uncommon at all

  • @Hammerhead1986
    @Hammerhead1986 Před 2 lety +8

    The amount of effort you put in to your videos is incredible 👏

  • @knowur10sand18s
    @knowur10sand18s Před 3 lety +5

    Hey great idea! Eric Bischoff has gone over at length with this but there's still the glaring fact that if Bret was supposed to be the star to build Thunder around why was he there so little?
    Feels like it became an afterthought within the first few shows.

    • @michaelkeller5927
      @michaelkeller5927 Před 3 lety +6

      Everything Eric says is a lie. He has such a revisionist memory and spins everything with the power of hindsight

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Před 3 lety +1

      @@michaelkeller5927 completely agreed. If anything Thunder was the Scott Hall show.

  • @panchopolarbear
    @panchopolarbear Před 3 lety +5

    The nWo/WCW revenge menu music in the background 🔥

    • @panchopolarbear
      @panchopolarbear Před 3 lety

      @XxMoney3DxX the nostalgia is real man. Still my favorite wrestling game

  • @florian_geier
    @florian_geier Před 3 lety +24

    Thunder was a great show and had some very memorable moments!

  • @robertjamesfulner4477
    @robertjamesfulner4477 Před 3 lety +2

    When WCW was around I didn't have cable, so the only TV Wrestling I could watch was WCW Worldwide on Saturday mornings (an later the addition of WWF Smackdown! on UPN).
    I looked forward to college so much primarily because the dorms had Cable, and I figured I could watch wrestling 7 days a week, with Thurnder being on Wednesdays at the time.
    Sundaynight Heat, Mondaynight Nitro (tape Raw and watch it on Tuesday), Thunder Wednesday, Smackdown Thursday, ECW on TNN Friday, and WCW Saturday Night.
    Alas I graduated HS in 2001 just when ECW and WCW had died. :-(
    Thankfully I still met my wife in the dorms because we both watched Raw.

  • @valeriazaragoza375
    @valeriazaragoza375 Před 2 lety +5

    I loved Thunder! We didn’t have cable so I could only watch Saturday Night to catch up on Nitro, so when they came out with Thunder I was very happy!

  • @QuentinDude
    @QuentinDude Před 2 lety +4

    One of the problems was that they filmed 2 episodes of Thunder at each taping. Which meant the following Nitro (which was live every week) had to work around what they had done for the taped Thunder that would be airing that Thursday.

  • @undertakerzfanz1948
    @undertakerzfanz1948 Před 3 lety +30

    The torture rack was the least looking painful submission I've seen in wrestling history

    • @Josh-qr9fo
      @Josh-qr9fo Před 3 lety +2

      I always thought if I could get him to do both sides it would be probably a nice re-alignment

    • @CoinSlotKitty
      @CoinSlotKitty Před 3 lety +3

      Cmon the torture rack was just Lex's excuse to fondle his opponents balls

    • @mrg8581
      @mrg8581 Před 3 lety +1

      @@CoinSlotKitty 😀😀😀😀

    • @jackspence6061
      @jackspence6061 Před 3 lety

      Awesome Kong made it look good!

    • @benchwarmerss9165
      @benchwarmerss9165 Před 3 lety +1

      Idk man ... I got put in that thing when I was smaller 🤣🤣

  • @primusvsunicron1
    @primusvsunicron1 Před 3 lety +10

    Would love the story of WCW Saturday Night

  • @DiamondDust132
    @DiamondDust132 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Just a great video. I didn't have cable at this time. We were way too poor, so I could only hear about WCW from friends at school. Thank God Smackdown was on free TV at the time. Also, Bret getting startled by the pyro at 21:20 honestly cracked me up lol

  • @olbloodngut4039
    @olbloodngut4039 Před 3 lety +134

    I might be in the minority, but I liked Thunder.

    • @sleepalaska
      @sleepalaska Před 3 lety +17

      same

    • @thomashagen2480
      @thomashagen2480 Před 3 lety +16

      Thunder was awesome

    • @anthonyhardy2946
      @anthonyhardy2946 Před 3 lety +12

      I loved this show

    • @actionjackson4982
      @actionjackson4982 Před 3 lety +13

      I enjoyed it, too.

    • @yankee4424
      @yankee4424 Před 3 lety +9

      I was in high school at the time and really enjoyed anything they put out. Looking back on it, it probably wasn’t good for WCW’s longevity. Two major shows was too much for them to handle.

  • @shawnmcconnell3851
    @shawnmcconnell3851 Před 3 lety +10

    I love how you seem to have relaxed and input your true personality into your videos. You are actually very easy to listen to. Thank you.

  • @MattWiding92191
    @MattWiding92191 Před 3 lety +5

    You do such amazing work wrestling bios thank you for your content

  • @HeartOfALion313
    @HeartOfALion313 Před 3 lety +2

    Dude I give u mad props for your time and research on these videos just for our entertainment. Thank you

  • @T-Bag13
    @T-Bag13 Před 3 lety +20

    When Tenay was interviewing Luger, he looked like he was dead, (Tenay).

  • @amaan.a
    @amaan.a Před 3 lety +6

    My favourite CZcams channel meets my favourite musician!
    WRESTLING BIOS X Q-TIP

  • @edwardfetner2513
    @edwardfetner2513 Před 2 lety +1

    just wanna say this is the first WrestlingBios video i watched, less than a month ago. Now you're one of my favorite channels. God bless

  • @WereGururumon
    @WereGururumon Před 3 lety +1

    i love your channel bro. thank you for this and everything!

  • @roccotheman4154
    @roccotheman4154 Před 3 lety +7

    These videos are beautiful Man

  • @SpeedWayDre
    @SpeedWayDre Před 3 lety +4

    Q-Tip?! Ahhhh man!!! Get in there!!! 🙌🏾

  • @alexedwards1873
    @alexedwards1873 Před 3 lety +1

    another brilliant video, love your work brings back a lot of good memories

  • @BENNY_MAC
    @BENNY_MAC Před 3 lety

    Haven't watched this episode yet, but I know Wrestling Bios delivers everytime, so its a thumbs up from Benny Mac. Grand Rapids, Michigan rocks with you!

  • @edge7799
    @edge7799 Před 3 lety +5

    Nice n64 sountrack during most of your descriptions.

    • @benchwarmerss9165
      @benchwarmerss9165 Před 3 lety

      I thought that’s what I was hearing in the headphones lol

  • @dhappz9337
    @dhappz9337 Před 3 lety +6

    I would love to see you cover ECW on TNN. Keep up the great work 👍

    • @6oclocknewsat8
      @6oclocknewsat8 Před rokem +1

      And Sunday Night Heat and WCW Saturday Night

  • @acidkyledaLSDj
    @acidkyledaLSDj Před 3 lety +2

    Really want some international wrestlers bios, or even some pioneer days wrestlers. Or managers would great too!!! Ya got endless videos to make m8. Really love everything ya put out been watching for almost 2 and half years . DONT STOP 🛑 WITH EVERYTHING YA DOING M8 ! CHEERS FROM TEXAS 🥂 🍻

  • @BoboMcBooboy
    @BoboMcBooboy Před 2 lety

    Love That q-tip/tribe called quest intro my brotha!!! Amazing video as well... as always...

  • @mikeya3143
    @mikeya3143 Před 3 lety +6

    I'm still dreaming of watching a documentary of ecw

  • @fitness65
    @fitness65 Před 3 lety +4

    I remember thunder and how wcw was testing the waters with it in January of 1998 to have almost a weekend show. And then went through with it in February. The craziest thing is the wwf did this with smackdown in 1999 in may with the pilot. Wwf wasn't sure if they wanted to do it consistently but they did in I believe September of 1999 or august and the rest was history

  • @jamminmusicman
    @jamminmusicman Před 3 lety +1

    Cool video buddy ... I remember watching the first episode of Thunder back in 1998 it was such an exciting time for a wrestling fan and I always thought the Thunder entrance looked like something from Legends Of The Hidden Temple 😂

  • @SeedSix
    @SeedSix Před 3 lety

    Man you have some of the best videos 💯
    Keep up the good work. 👍

  • @bobray8637
    @bobray8637 Před 3 lety +4

    You spelled Budgets wrong in Eric Bischoff's quote lol. Great video as always sir.

  • @yankee4424
    @yankee4424 Před 3 lety +40

    Thunder was the beginning of over saturating the wrestling market.

    • @yankee4424
      @yankee4424 Před 3 lety +9

      @Jonathan McCully Yes. The quality of Nitro went way down once they started 3 hour shows. So much of it was just filler. You certainly can have too much of a good thing sometimes. Then, obviously WWE didn’t learn from WCW’s mistake when they went 3 hours with Raw.

  • @thequietone2962
    @thequietone2962 Před 3 lety

    Mate, your knowledge and the way you narrate is unmatched on CZcams.

  • @Floatillyboats
    @Floatillyboats Před 3 lety

    Great video. Love your content!

  • @bDaZ1988
    @bDaZ1988 Před 3 lety +3

    That breathe and stop remix at the beginning was hard af

  • @TheyCallMeSledge
    @TheyCallMeSledge Před 3 lety +3

    I just wanna know who is making the intro themes for your videos because they're straight BANGERS!

  • @MaskTheTruth1111
    @MaskTheTruth1111 Před 3 lety

    Wow, some Q-Tip from Tribe to start the video? This is gonna be great!!!

  • @ToroHaifisch
    @ToroHaifisch Před 3 lety

    just discovered your channel, amazing content btw !

  • @constablekennedy7705
    @constablekennedy7705 Před 3 lety +4

    This was 🔥 as Usual ...

  • @matthewbonney7438
    @matthewbonney7438 Před 3 lety +4

    Great video. I was a WCW fan back in the day. I still think WCW had some good things going for them. I agree with Bischoff that Thunder was the beginning of the end. But I also think the NWO helped WCW and also hurt WCW. The NWO was overexposed, I remember watching Dean Malenko and Rey Mysterio, having a match, great match in my opinion, and the commentators were talking about the NWO more than the match. But whatever just my own opinion. Keep up with the Bios, I really enjoy them.

  • @orangeoctober.
    @orangeoctober. Před 3 lety +2

    love the intro song!
    I remember as a kid I would record Nitro or Raw on VHS and watch one the next day, or watch the ending if my parents didn't let me stay up late enough the night before. When I taped Nitro that week and saw the Hogan vs Sting match was cut off, I was sooooo pissed lol.

  • @justaguy2365
    @justaguy2365 Před rokem +1

    I know at some point, I stopped watching WCW and started watching WWF. I don't remember exactly when that was, but I'm trying to figure it out through these videos!! Awesome stuff and a great nostalgia trip

  • @c-note979
    @c-note979 Před 3 lety +27

    I've been waiting on this one and I was wondering after reliving the war can you do A WCW Thunder vs WWF SmackDown Series? But in a reliving the war type of way

    • @adamclark9004
      @adamclark9004 Před 3 lety +8

      Smackdown came more than a year after thunder was created and by then wwf was destroying wcw so it wouldn't be too interesting

    • @c-note979
      @c-note979 Před 3 lety +7

      @@adamclark9004 true. At least the reliving the war series with nitro and raw is still here. I just mentioned it because I haven't seen to much WCW Thunder.

    • @c-note979
      @c-note979 Před 3 lety +2

      I think it can still be done

    • @javontemorant4701
      @javontemorant4701 Před 2 lety +1

      @@adamclark9004 It still would be fun. Just like Raw vs. IMPACT being one-sided, it still was great to relive.

  • @shellbacksclub
    @shellbacksclub Před 3 lety +8

    the work ethic on this guy tho!👌

  • @JOBdOut
    @JOBdOut Před 3 lety +1

    I enjoyed thunder. Raw aired too late on Monday nights on TSN. We didn't have UPN or TNT, but TBS was accessible (eventually) so I could watch thunder on Wednesdays while playing tanarus or doing homework

  • @tommydeamon7657
    @tommydeamon7657 Před 3 lety

    Thank you four your work on all these facts and documentary stuff and yer acent Rocks bro keep it up once again thank you keep on keeping on

  • @DJDoubleCee
    @DJDoubleCee Před 3 lety +9

    I wonder if WWE came up with SmackDown in response to Thunder. SmackDown kinda reminds me of Thunder.

  • @TheRyFiNetWork
    @TheRyFiNetWork Před 3 lety +6

    Great video.
    I always had that feeling of Thunder being some cheap knockoff, it didn't feel that far from those Saturday Night shows they had.
    Thank you for this.

  • @skinnylegsjoetex
    @skinnylegsjoetex Před 3 lety

    One of the best channels on CZcams!

  • @thebaldbeliever2373
    @thebaldbeliever2373 Před 3 lety

    Your videos are outstanding mate, from a fellow Belfast man.

  • @JukeHighwalker
    @JukeHighwalker Před 3 lety +4

    "You wanted garbage. Well you got it." 🎤Forget the....🎶

  • @randymanmaximus8419
    @randymanmaximus8419 Před 3 lety

    Always enjoy these bios.

  • @altytv9053
    @altytv9053 Před 2 lety

    Congrats to 250k!

  • @imogenaris1697
    @imogenaris1697 Před 3 lety +3

    Wow. I don't have an MBA or anything like that, but to not invest in something as significant as another 2 hour live broadcast, whether you're in a ratings war or not with another company defies common sense. Eric deserves credit for surviving that pressure & stress load. It's weird to look back on RAW'S dated logo & stage presentation

  • @josephbrowne3533
    @josephbrowne3533 Před 3 lety +3

    Only having TNT on sky, and no way to watch ppvs, I loved Thunder, I loved the recaps. No it wasn't as good as Nitro, but rural Ireland with not even the other throwaway shows from wwf or wcw, it was great.

  • @therattlesnake1614
    @therattlesnake1614 Před 3 lety

    Another great wrestling Bio 👍

  • @franklinbumgartener1323
    @franklinbumgartener1323 Před 3 lety +2

    I watched Thunder and I enjoyed it a great deal it turned me into a huge WCW fan.

  • @LyonzDen
    @LyonzDen Před 3 lety +7

    Will there be a Thursday version of Reliving the war? Thunder vs Smackdown?