The Book of Genesis, but its Gnostic...
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- I've been doing a lot of research into Gnosticism recently for a larger project that I've been working on. But since I haven't been uploading a lot recently I figured I could do some shorter videos in the mean time. And what better way to explain Gnosticism than to tell its entire commentary on the bible with zero context. I was inspired by those videos where people explain various things in a simple style and I thought, "well I could do that."
So to explain the context a little bit, there are a lot of different groups that were running around in the 2nd century that were called "gnostic." However today most scholars general only consider a few of those groups to actually be "gnostic" because of their commentaries on the Old Testament which developed to an elaborate mythology which people call "gnostic."
So in short this video is my attempt to harmonize the various "gnostic" stories into one cohesive narrative. This video uses the book of Genesis, the book of Enoch, the Hypostasis of the Archons, and the Apocryphon of John as its inspirations.
yaldabeoth sounds like he plays Sims
ur so close
We are sims, except this version of sims takes part of your higher self and traps it within the sims temporarily
LMFAO
Thought it sounded like a Lovecraft god.
@@bunnystick lmao, I mean basically, not like he actually knew what he was doing when he created he didn’t have understanding of what true light actually was, just true shadow
"Because He found it hilarious" is the best possible answer one can give to the question "why would a kind god do such a thing?"
I mean also kind of consider what kind unconditionally loving god, truly unconditionally loving no matter what, would condemn his favorite and most beautiful son to hellfire over a disagreement? Also if he was all knowing like the Bible claims, wouldn’t he know how to stop something as overthrowing him with as least bloodshed as possible because he is also apparently all loving? But he has mood swings? How are we to not see
Because there’s an actual reason for it you just don’t want to hear it
@@TragicPumpkin888 I mean he is the Creator... he can do whatever he wants to his creation... like if I create a lego house, i can break it too.. the lego pieces can't question me..
@@jeppy4021 yeah, but the claim that he is good or "omniscient with a greater purpose" is terrible, yeah, if he exists, YHWH is a terrible monster, lovecraftian even, and if so his love is distorted and not human, not the same love we have for eachother, and shouldn't be the same word. or he could care less about us, like if he was the dev of a simulation.
@@MigWithReminds me of a debate I had with a Christian friend, “God is good so thusly I have no right to judge him”
YALDABAOTH BEING PROUD OF CAIN WAS NOT WHAT I EXPECTED THATS CRAZY XD😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
@@Malytboyxd I’d be proud of Cain, he put two and two together, and was willing to kill his fleshly ties just to be loved by god, some would say the heart of David comes from his line
Game respecting game. Where game is vicious brutality, and cunning cruelty.
@@TragicPumpkin888No… Not to be close with Yaldabaoth, but out of jealousy
@@Brxwn9 Isn't that what jealousy means? Wanting to be closer than anybody else?
@@Brxwn9 if there is no us then there can be no jealousy
Easily the coolest and most convuluted type of heresy
Gods = Aliens .
Heresy is such a funny term that doesn't even mean anything beyond a vague label that's attached onto whoever disagrees with the Church. The majority of protestants today have been considered heretics a few centuries ago, yet they're accepted today. All of the dozens of denominations that exist around the world? Heretics as well.
Nah this is closer to the original message, than the "official" story. So the story mainlined now is actually the heresy. Tends to happen across every structure like it in history.
I wouldn't call myself Gnostic but i got more respect for them than their counterparts. Given they're more consistent. Even if not entirely accurate, it's still closer than the other ones are. Lol.
@@luxj.9451"closer to the original message" according to who? Enlightenment philosophy really got every mf thinking their own opinions are actually worth a damn.
@@nuphhrffe875 Could answer you a few ways there but this should suffice, firstly Gnosticism is one of the oldest forms of Christianity. Though, i am unsure if it's the oldest. Hard to say, with certainty. But all of modern Christianity is definitely further from the origin point thus like a game of telephone it's very likely it's not as close to the original message. Whose more likely to retell the original message given, the 4rth to heard it in the chain or the 14th? Exactly, the 4th is most likely as there's less potential for corruption of the message due to less vectors present for that corruption to seep in. But neither will give you the original message, merely approximations of it.
Secondly, i don't even know what you're referring to by "enlightenment philosophy." If you mean my own understanding of reality, and how shit works. This viewpoint in the video doesn't reflect mine but resonates in some regards. I developed mine via experience and memories of experience. I don't base my understandings off text, or scripture of any kind really. It's off experience. Though the words i use at times is adapted for this purpose, as that i found to be more effective to have others "get" what i am saying easier.
Thirdly. I'm not someone whose blind to that beyond the material plane. In fact i am quite aware. So i ain't operating off nothing. And it's yielded actual results, those which have walked with me in this life closest to me know my words carry weight for they saw the results of the concepts given put into action. But like you hinted at, you don't consider my words worth a damn. Few humans do of others, hence why i rarely speak of such matters such as these. Which i can't entirely blame for, either. With all the focused efforts obviously in play to derail any real understandings of such matters away from usable info. Makes sense given those in power here wish to stay in power in all regards, thus the need to confuse and disorient all others here.
Anyway, the first paragraph is a good point i hope you consider. It's pure logic, and very easy to replicate. Also very known a function of data corruption regardless of medium. Be it words or 1's and 0's. Have a pleasant day, i'm a go to bed now. :)
There is the a variant that say that Sophie hide the Demiurge in a sphere of clouds, after put in him the devine spark. The Demiurge later awake, find that he is alone and is ignorant of his origin, so he believe hes the one true god.
then creates the archons which r the planets, the sun is the demiurge and it has plasma within it which plasma is conscious in its own way and is above ours. (not much known on plasma still but is is fascinating what we know so far) there are clouds called kordylewski clouds which are plasma clouds that circle the sun and share earths orbit and are also conscious.
@@adyntalley
In skyrim Aedra are planets and represent good while Daedra refused to transform to planets like Aedra and represent evil
Yes, this is one of the main differences between the two major Gnostic groups, the Valentinians and Sethians. Valentinians (created and led by Valentinus) thought Yaldy, aka. the Demiurge, aka. the Old Testament God, was simply ignorant and alone. The Sethians follow the story of the video.
it’s the orion nebula. Cloud in latin is nebula.
@@adyntalleyNo, the sun is merely the heart of our solar system, with the brain (the real sun which powers our visible sun) hidden behind it. All the ancient symbolism reveals this being as the orion nebula, a great dust cloud which fashions the stars and planets. It is the only begotten son of the father (son of the mind).
Interesting how the virgin birth of a Devine being brought an evil or chaotic entity while the virgin birth of a human brought forth Jesus who represented the ultimate good
It’s because if Christ though. Which existed as a separate entity before humans as well
I think it's the twist we're being fed. Modern religion has us worshipping satan
are you guys gnostic? : ) im not, just curious
@Splatterbrain7 it's a start there are other forms aswell
@@HonerableG if one accepts the trinitarian doctrine derived from the single gospel of John. The others have different visions of Christ discernable from their contexts when considered in their own .
Wtf this is just Elden Ring Lore irl
You're right, elden ring came first, in fact the story of elden must have existed for thousands of years because this shit is everywhere
the greater will fr
Kinda lol else. Ring is based heavily on occult and gnostic mythologies
Understand this, ive seen or heard this in a past life so ye lol
@@allighast9714😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣👏🏼👏🏼
Dude, this has got to be the best retelling of Gnostic Genesis I have ever come across. I am so very looking forward to the next segment.
the best reteilling of a proven forgery from the second century you mean?>
youre brain dead you cant even look up the origins of what your told
and just believe in whatever echo chamber allows you too vindicate your false beliefs.
It's nice to know that even back then there were people that read the actions of Yahweh in scripture and thought "This is clearly some kind of fucking demon."
For other cultures, your gods were always demons and vice versa. Today we use the term "demon" which is also the root for divine in other cultures and even our words. The problem with moralism is that it is just the same problem moved up: Morality as a god over gods, somehow morality have to be over gods, and that makes no theological or philosophical sense, as Gods proscribe morality. We criticize YHWH on moral grounds, and yet we also want to be moral relativists... sorry, but we cannot have both.
Either that, or God bumped His head so hard that He switched from "follow me or die" to "everyone gets forgiveness, I love all my children"
God lets bad things happen so if you love him through all the bad things, you will prosper.
@@The_Lutheran_Man How petty.
@@lunatricks huh
Cain is such a gamer in this version.
i remember you
😂
And his wife...
Honestly that sounds just sad
Deity girl tried to have a child of her own because thats what all deities were supposed to and because she was lonely as she didnt have a partner
Then the child naturally comes out weird because it was created differently from others, so it is thrown away
The child, lonely but exceptionally powerful creates a whole universe of their own and thinking it is the only thing in existence believes itself to be the only deity out there
Of course, being a child with no moral guidance and not understanding how to treat others because it had no one, because it was literally thrown away, things go south with their creation very quickly
Then the child's mother regretting what she did either due to true guilt or because it turns out her child is too powerful, tries to go there to talk
The child, alone in their entire existence, doesnt want to let the mother go and traps her
Naturally, the other gods try to intervene, but that only upsets the child further thinking they want to steal the mother away, so it lashes out and attacks them
Surprisingly, the child wins because it is just that powerful, like the Broly of the gods, no wonder it thinks of itself as the true god
This results in the child, being a greedy kid, taking away some of the divinity of the deities who tried to strike it down and using it for their own creation
Of course the gods wouldnt let that slide and want to end the child's reign of terror over their own universe, so they send in a "saviour"
This saviour brings magical knowledge that allows the beings trapped within the child's universe to flee it, hoping to free the mother that way
These beings do so, because they see the child god as nothing more than a sadistic tyrant and rightfully so
But to the child all that is happening is that the other deities attacked it again, not only wanting to steal the mother but also it's toys/pets that they made, which only make the child more heartbroken and furious
And having never been taught how to deal with these feelings, it continues to lash out against it's creation and the other gods while having their mentality that they're the only god that matters reinforced by the other deities's actions, their cruelty towards it and use of subterfuge to steal what is theirs instead of fighting them like they attempted last time
Thus the child's cruelty and desperation increases, even though all it ever wanted was to be accepted and loved like any child without their parent
Its a tragedy
You can make any story sympathetic if you see it through the lens of it’s narrator
Even tho it’s not real Christianity I still think this is a rlly interesting story, and ultimately just tragic.
Meanwhile Abrahamic Satan: "I'm edgy and want to rebel because the story needs conflict"
It also depends on the version your hearing of the story. In most versions I’ve heard it’s not that Sophia didn’t have a partner but rather she tried to procreate without her partner as a way to sorta copy the True god which she is only an emanation of. That breaking of the “law” is what causes he child to be born corrupted and twisted
@@nerdatron817Abrahamic Satan couldve just been another retelling of this story if you imagine Satan as yaldabaoth cast down to hell (our material realm)
“Yaldabaoth found this hilarious” is a much better reasoning for the weirdness of the Bible than “God so willed it.” Why did he will it? He thought it was funny.
Not really. Doesn't matter if God willed everything to die in the most horrific way or for the entire universe to turn into one big cheeseburger, if God willed it then who are we to protest.
@@hazzy77 you're kidding, right?
@@carlosrios3215 no lol 😂 the creations of a creator have 0 right to protest anything that the creator decided to do. Your entire existence is a gift and is sustained by him so don't complain even if he destroyed the universe with you in it.
@@hazzy77 my entire existence is a conflagration of chemicals and gases, and coded information. However if you believe a creator has every right to destroy their creation regardless of reason, I actually feel sympathy towards you. Nothing in this life is certain and certainly not some crazed God that feels humanistic emotions such as jealousy and anger.
@@carlosrios3215 you only think he's crazed because you're conflagration of chemicals and gases have resulted in you experiencing a life devoid of meaning and satisfaction. Your morals and understanding of everything is what you decide and not what the being responsible for your existence decided. Do you speak of God when you have no way to disprove he exists? Take your science and mathematics and create something from nothing and then I'll believe you 0+0+0+0+0... Will never give you 1.
Yaldabaoth: “As for why? Because it amuses me. 😈”
zed-sama i kneel
Basically the gnostic lore is attempting to make sense why Christians insist the genocidal god in the old testament is the same god in the new testament who is also Jesus.
pretty much
that's just you showing that you would need a christian video of genesis to understand, because it is way more simple
@@adrielcolherinhas1908 god told his angels to massacare first born children
Why does everyone say that God is genocidal?
@@XxFoguinhoxX Because according to the old testament he is. He casually wipes out entire cities.
*Starving child holding out an empty bowl* more please.
yaldabaoth: lol. lmao.
I like how Yaldaboath isn’t pure evil like most malevolent beings, he’s just a bored asshole with mommy issues. The fact he’s the one who made humanity actually makes way more sense than a ultra benevolent god doing it
If he has momm7y issues, did he create anime/h3nt41/d0uyj1n M1L'FS as an idea?
So to say "divine guidance"
@@JohnGrandline
Yaldaboath allows this because he finds it hilarious
Man if that was the lore of our universe I'd be pissed. Imagine your whole life being in control of some dumbass with mommy issues lol
@@Sarez____-it4ks The entire point is that neither yaldabaoth or the monad endorsed these creations of humanity but because either one taking action against humanity for it would result in both sides losing, humanity was granted free reign over its own hell
Yaldaboath is the orion nebula. The ancient symbolism shows this, and it is depicted time and time again in the old cathedrals of Europe.
Great summarization and simplification of some seriously esoteric and ancient lore, well done!
He is wrong he brings up the books of enoch.. but in the book of enoch, enoch is the one that warns Noah about the flood.. not the lion snake.
@@christopherramirez7804 there are many Gnostic sects that believed different interpretations of the story, and it’s possible he either found a differently translated book of Enoch or used another retelling separate from the book
A lot more surface level than most Gnostic teachers on the Tube, but a lot less sedating. I was actually able to follow the entire video without falling asleep to a monotonous voice. Subbed.
LOLOL wow youre pathetic dont trip over your low bar
bet you claim to be a gnostic intellectual
truly an oxymoronic concept..
It's scary how much this makes way more sense out of the "approved" text.
Yep
No it doesnt lol
@@squidthesquid1233 why doesn't it?
@@skunko1871 Many times, claims that Yahweh is evil are based on a lack of understanding of the Old Testament/Bible. You cannot support an absurd polytheistic claim about the universe simply because you misunderstand and believe that God in the Old Testament was evil. That, in no way, serves as a rationale for Gnosticism on its own.
@@squidthesquid1233 Well, i feel like it's hard to misinterpret actual divine orders to commit genocide and to take in neighboring countries as slaves as anything but evil along with a multitude of other things. Regardless of canon or apocraphal Christianity, both come from polytheism btw
This is actually lowkey makes a good series, if not an actual gnostic series, then a different series but with the same storyline. Theres too many plotwists, plus great charachter development!
Christianity:
Q: Why does God allow bad things to happen?
A: Because he has a plan for everything OR because of Original SIn OR because the Devil created them
Gnosticism:
Q: Why does Yaldabeoth allow bad things to happen?
A: For shits and giggles
@@KingOfSciliy
regarding the three answers:
if he has a plan for everything, knows past present and future, free will does not exist (just the illusion), or he only knows all the possibilities, and is manipulating everything so it happens as he wants, he knows what "each and everything is going to lead to" and allows it to happen makes so it happen.
YHWH created the natural order, he created the nature of things, he created the nature of human beings, he created the rules. so sin exists because god made them exist, anyone could argument that "hell is the separation from god", and god if existent, was the one that created both of these concepts, as there is no higher nature, he does not have "rules to follow" or "a boss". so he created sin, he created the concept of separation from himself(it is not something that pre-exists him). the same applies to "the devil" god allowed him to exist, god allowed him to corrupt people, god created hell, god created suffering in one way or another because he created everything.
so either he is apathetic, and sometimes intervenes because its fun(like a game/simulation developer) or he is indeed all seeing/all powerful all the time, and is just plain humanly evil, in the sense that the logic he created also reveals himself as evil (since he created math and the rules of the universe).
@@MigWithThe second argument is pretty bad, because God follows his own rules, the one that created the rules, followed them when he incarnated as Jesus, the world hell is a mistranslation of multiple words, Hades, Gehenna, Tartarus, Sheol, and for the most part it hell refers to grave, which is the opposite of life and the dead are located, while the other times it refers to fire or in the cause of Tartarus, where the fallen angels are imprisoned, which Tartarus is a word only used one time.
Separation of life is dead, basically if life exists is the opposite is death. That is why the concept of separation from life, being God in this case cause he is the author of life, will lead to death.
Basically if something exists, then the opposite is posible, it depends which one comes first. If goodness exists, then evil will come to exist, because it is the opposite, the same with energy, heat, life, love, etc.
This will depend on which come first and can exist by itself, although people go to far and create the extreme opposite of one thing, the concept of all consuming fire does exist in the Bible, but the concept of hell as we know it culturally, which was conflated with the lake of fire from revelation, doesn’t exist within the text, unless you include the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, but since it’s a story to teach a lesson, it should be taken as a literal place.
you should read Go Nagai's manga series like Devilman and Demon Lord Dante a lot of gnostic elements in those stories
Neon genesis was heavily influenced by Abrahamic and Gnostic ideas with philosophical approach
Religion just seems more and more like some plot line for the legend of Zelda
This is like blaming Lord of the Rings for the Dwarves being generic when its where our conception of dwarves come from.
In other words, its not Religion that is like a story from Zelda. It is Zelda that is like a religious story. :D
"I can only comprehend ancient history with muh videogames stories" pathetic consoomer
@@MrBenxablei bet you scroll through r/consoom for hours on end not realizing that you're just as pathetic
Makes more sense than the mainstream interpretation of the Bible in which people perform mental acrobatics to make the demonic and hateful deity Yahweh out to be benevolent somehow. The story of Jacob and Esau makes way more sense when you realize Yahweh respects chutzpah, boldness and sneakiness above all else. And yeah, he protects Cain rather than punishing him, so it would make sense that he actually gets a kick out of watching people kill each other, especially considering what happens in the Book of Joshua. Yahweh orders the Israelites to carry out like a dozen different genocides. Crazy to think about how so many people worship Yaldabeoth, just under a different name. One of the main reasons I was an atheist as a little kid rather than believing what I was told was how little sense it made for Jesus and Yahweh to be parts of the same triune God when Jesus was quite peaceful while Yahweh is a war god and god of storms and metallurgy who drowns mankind.
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Agreed
Sounds like you didn't actually understand anything when you read the Bible
@@jr2904 whats inaccurate about his statement oh wise one?
@@jr2904 great input cupcake.
Its funny how with this change in perspective all of the stories change meaning entirely and in many cases make more sense smth
I feel like it’s just more context to the Bible lol
No they don't
@@sosa9694 Its entirely contrary to the bible, in the gnostic genesis story Satan the serpent is the good guy freeing man from the evil demiurge which is Yahweh, Gnosticism is obliviously satanic.
@@jorgitoislamico4224 cry harder
@@Carlos-bz5oo Cope
Yaldabaoth sounds like how I would act if I was God
you and most others
You are
@@fellowgoyimwhite7630 ALERTA DE GNOSE🚨🚨
@@fellowgoyimwhite7630f**kiin newagers...
as above so below
This would make a sick ass mythology for a video game
Cruelty Squad
This IS the mythology of quite a number of video games. Xenogears is probably the most famous/infamous of those.
elden ring
It doesnt' really show any of this, but Legacy of Kain, starting with Soul Reaver was inspired by gnosticism.
So the reason gnosticism is considered evil is essentially because it completely flips the script, and attributes the actions of God, a fully divine entity, to the first non divine entity
The reason its evil is because it has no backing or basis. Its just the Bible corrupted by either paganism or Platonism. There are many inherent fallacies to gnosticism, including the idea that Truth is hidden and secret, and you must be initiated into the Truth. Truth is Jesus Christ, and the only initiation to His Truth is faith and baptism.
And it is no more or less the truth because of it, a realm created where Evil exists is inherently corrupted and malformed and so must its creator
gnostics somehow can’t realize that satan is the demiurge. “yalda baoth” and satan have the same exact stories for a reason
No, gnosticism is evil because it says the universe is evil. It rejects the humanity of Christ because it hates the flesh. It's where the idea that our bodies are prisons for our souls comes from, which is why it's hilarious that Atheists seem to find it so appealing.
Not entirely, it is still christian in it's core, so the gnostics think that God who created the world is evil, but there is a good god out there (outside of the corrupted universe we exist in) who wants to save us and he send Jesus to make that happen. It's was the fact that they wanted to seperate tha all good christian god from the clearly not good jewish/old testament god that makes them heretics.
The Bible instantly makes 300% more sense when god is changed to a inter dimensional warlord
But also 300 times more blasphemous &/or even heretical
@@Seraph2101 wtf do does words mean
@@tamerlane9889 Blaphemous means "sacrilegious against God or sacred things; profane." While heretical can mean "believing in or practicing religious heresy." which is a belief contrary to a certain belief, in this case with Christianity.
@@Seraph2101 By worshipping the vile demiurge you are are committing a great Hersey
@@tamerlane9889 That's Idolatry... Besides the Gnostic texts are heresy... Why would you believe that I worship such a tyrant?!
This is super interesting, can't wait for the next one
I tried to understand all this by reading the wikipedia page on the Gnostic origin story. It was so convoluted and confusing that I went crosseyed and got bored. The straight forward conciseness of this telling makes it all make more sense. Great job!
Thank you I been following up on the gnostic religion for a while and this video sums up everything I researched. I love the animation and the narrative you put together with Enoch. Please make more thank you.
He is wrong a lot bout lot of things do your own research. Enoch is the one that warns Noah about the flood not the lion snake. Read the book of enoch and rewatch this.
Their books weren't burned because "we didn't like it" they were burned because the gnostics taught dangerous and damning heresies that contradicted the Apostles: those granted authority to teach by Jesus Himself. Regardless, this is a good retelling and simplification of the many gnostic heresies.
Amen
This is just saying we didn't like it in more words
Sheep
Gnosticism is so fascinating. A lot of Gnostics also practiced many “controversial” practices such as equality, abstinence, anti-classism, individualism, etc. The Church saw them as a threat.
And then the Cathari happened, followed by the Albigensian Crusade.
Glad that modern denominations arent treated like them.
Rather bogus claim considering Gnostics were much more elitist than conventional Christians; elitism is in fact built into Gnostic cosmology.
Also, the gospel of Thomas.
At least from the video he covered old testament books
@@alternateperson6600 Depends on the sect, homie. “Gnosticism” is an amalgamation of different religions and faiths that were labeled as “Gnostics”, but we genuinely do not know because many records and documentations were burned and lost, or confiscated. While it is true one of the principles of “Gnosticism” is “knowledge, authority, and power to the few,” no one knows where that tenant originated from. Many other “Gnostics” however believed that any individual can achieve self-enlightenment.
One excellent example of a *true, genuine* sect of Gnostics is Mandaeism, one of the few sects of Gnostic-Christianity that still exists today, but their numbers are scarce. I highly recommend reading and researching them because it’s fascinating and they’re not at all demonic, just misunderstood. ReligionforBreakfast and other theology channels made excellent videos explaining them.
@@alternateperson6600wanna try and say that the largest denomination of current and past times with their massive gilded buildings and rituals who believe that one human man per generation can be the link to the divine isn’t full of elitism
Aight boss 👍🤣
The ironic thing about Sophia being wisdom is that her initial action is clearly the opposite of it.
Unless she's playing the long game...
She lacked wisdom of the consequence but it was her wisdom that led her try to copy the monad as she herself was an emanation of him. Which is likely why the demiurge is so "powerful".
@@Ronin.97 inteligence, knowledge, skill... there are many words that could describe what she did. Wisdom is not the right word for that. Wisdom is the thing telling you not to do that.
Damn the “Ummmm Actually The Good guys are actually the Bad guys and the Bad guys are secretly good and misunderstand” edge lord shit runs deep in history
Committing global genocide via flood seems like the edgier thing here. Definitely not something a "good guy" would consider. Also, the gnostics didn't think Satan was the good guy either. Literally just that the OT god was an imposter. So no.
I mean christ is still the good guy so they aren't 1:1
YHWH is a war god. Christ is an agent of the supreme god, bringing peace. Christians mostly got it right, at peast in concept.
This stuff developed around the same time as Christianity or the 2nd Temple of Judiaism (some time). So, its not as simple as that. One could argue that most -isms get formed as a counter to the stagnant old ways.
This isn't reversing roles, as Christ in Gnosticism, like in all of Christianity, is still a good being, and his mission is no different.
The bleep for the SA was so much louder than the rest of the video and really hurt my ears, fuck. Please turn that down next time lol
This makes me completely understand why
The gnostics were destroyed
Well there was also a church thru built around the time of 1000-1200AD by the gnostics and basically was a big suicidal cult. Christians did not like people killing themselves and wanted to prevent cult from spreading sp they killed off the cult
Most deserved tbh
Yet the gnostic perspective actually addresses the blind spots that the "Christian doctrine" doesn't address.
@@karl5641 Childish nonsense does too
It makes more sense than modern chrstianity, god does a complete 180 between the new and old testaments, so it makes sense that the old would be about an evil god and the new about the true god.
Holy crap! It’s about time a video like this came along, and finally put all the missing pieces of early Genesis together in an easy to understand way. Thank you, thank you, and thank you my friend! You now have a new internet fan for life in me! 🙏
Gnostics don’t all believe one thing. Maybe a few general agreements about knowledge, know thy self for example.
But like Buddha teaches, you/each person has to taste the strawberry and it may taste different to each person but they now each know.
so youre a buddhist not a gnostic or a christian then genius.
gnosticism is based on a second century forgery
this isnt even up for debate the evidence that this is a fact is overwhelming and yes all gnostics believed in the same thing
quit using sophistry to try too over complicate the subject.
i got A LESSON too its about shit and shinola which do you think i smell when you talk about buddha.
yes but we know the taste of the strawberry is the same it’s the experience and context of that taste that creates the sensation and “knowledge” of the flavor
@@romanmay2867It's not the same
@@etruscanetwork exactly
Norea being able to breathe fire is so funny to me
Norea: Do you know why i was called "the dragon of the west?" (Iroh quote from avatar)
''In their tongue she's dovahkiin: dragonborn!''
Yeah, dude. She comes out of nowhere, breathes fire then fucks up the archons and then ascends to celestia lmao
Kickass girl lol
"Yaldabaoth finds this event hilarious"
Man this is fr the most entertaining and fascinating semi-religious video/sermon i have ever watched 🤯🤯
Can't wait for part 2 😂😂🔥
Now I understand why the early church burned the Gnostics books.
It legit feels like somebody severely misunderstood the Bible, then decided to give God a backstory.
@@janJosuHey, makes more sense than him being Omni benevolent, omnipotent and omniscient, right?
@@Joey-ei2zq Here's a question: Why would a ruler create a universe where he isn't benevolent and omniscient?
@@janJosu What's your point here? If you're talking about the Demiurge, he can't since he isn't all-powerful. He's limited.
If you're referring to the Biblical God, that's an absurdity because if he truly is all powerful, how can he create a universe where he isn't? And if he's omnibenevolent and omniscient, how can he NOT be?
@@Joey-ei2zq First mistake: You're assuming he isn't all powerful. Please, give me a significant reason why he isn't that actually correctly defies the reasons he is.
There's actually a lot of contention that YHWH is actually Sabaoth and means well but does a terrible job of being a decent god...
I hope this sequel doesn't come out 6 months from now. That was a great video
Actually...the serpent at the beginning at 0:10 seconds is ambracksis (spelling wrong) which is baphmit or satan. Or also know as Saturn's cube or the kabaal they walk around in the middle east is the same thing and is also in the entrance of trump tower. Who's part of Baphmit society. Amd the word MAGA is an old word for dark magic and deception...so I'm with you, I hope not to.
This video is great! I really hope this turns into a series!
sup, my subjects. having fun in the kenoma?
Certainly, thank youu
this update sucks
Whaddup with lion-head-sunshine-worm... why he just can not be happy... he has such a huge appartment
Well stated
Actually its a snake just like dev1l is described as, both are also described as a lion,
coincidence?
@@JohnGrandline who is this developer number 1 and what did he develope? Why is he snake? He never credits others who work on creations? Sounds like my old boss. He also had sunshine face. Then smash you from behind. Puli puli.
Dude he’s just playing a more advanced version of Sims. Cmon do you not mess with the minecraft villagers?
This is the most fun gnosticism creation myth video I've ever watched. Hats off to you sir
This is just so weird. It’s like the complete opposite of Christianity. God is an evil interdimensional being and every evil being that temps humanity are actually the good guys. this is the perfect heresy. It’s so heretical that nothing can be more heretical than this.
not even a heresy at this point, it's just a Entirely new Religion
Freemasons are neo gnostics. Read their 33d degree prayer it’s horrifying. Lord Jesus Christ have mercy.
John the Son of Zebedee dedicated the last years of his life on a very small island dedicated to _just_ trolling these people. He felt they were that stupid that he thought they were worth railing against instead of the pagans.
You can clearly see why the early church was so aggressively opposed to the gnostics. It goes quite a different direction than how modern new age types have tried to imply it was just misunderstood. You can clearly see how attractive this interpretation would be to those who, first and foremost, struggle with the problem of evil.
No complex philosophical apologetics trying to explain free will. No, god is just an asshole; and your only hope is to break free (whatever that means).
@@critic2029 The way you describe it you make it seem like a bad thing. Triggered, much?
I can explain why this is wrong in one sentence; The Gnostic faith paints Samael/Yaboleth as the hero/victim, which is what any narcissist will do so they can trap you.
This next bit is free. In case you still have doubts, God warns against false doctrine and says that Samael is the father of lies and is incapable of truth.
Jaldebetum is my favourite character in this story
*Yaldabaoth
Wait, Michael and Raphael were two of the four sent to earth to fight? Can we change the names of the other two to Leonardo and Donatello?
for those curious about the history of the biblical god esoterica does an AMAZING job breaking down how a polytheistic pantheonic council was eventually transformed into the “singular” god in the old testament. but that being said a warlord was the original form of yahweh. but if you’re interested in Gnosticism first check out the gospels, unfortunately they directly contradict eachother, and for those speaking of equality let’s not forget the gnostic gospel of thomas where jesus says woman have to become men to enter heaven.
It's so wild that the Gospel of Thomas was a text that early Christians actually had copies of, but much/most? of the New Testament was written a few generations later, and it was assembled many years after that. Early Christians would be so confused by modern Christianity! I wonder if the Gospel of Thomas made sense to them? I 'wish I could go back in time and ask someone, "what in blazes is this guy talking about?"
@@Sarcasticron “Simon Peter said to them, “Mary should leave us, for females are not worthy of life.”
Jesus said, “Look, I shall guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter heaven’s kingdom.” -gospel of thomas. i mean yeah i wish i could too
I really enjoyed this, I never really understood wtf all the gnostic texts were talking about and this made it fun to watch and understandble, thanks
Damn, i like this version more than the canon
Two things need to be noted.
"Gnostic" is a term coined in 17th. Adherents considered themselves Christians, and gnosticism was typically taught as an "inner school" of Christianity, something for a select few and not regular members.
There were MANY schools of gnostic thought, each with their own number of aeons, their names for the demiurge, their own philosophy on the nature of sin and salvation, and their own take on how Logos and Sophia conspired to restore the divine sparks trapped in the material world, and so on. It was NOT as monolithic as the video makes it out to be.
Uh oh…dude I’m making an anime of synchronization religions and mythologies, you telling me that makes me scared a little bit. 😭😭 like how tf are you more complicated than Hinduism?
@@FireFoxGaming_ - Might I suggest reading Bart Ehrman. Lost Christianities would be a good starting point.
@@TechBearSeattle thank you so much!
@@FireFoxGaming_
Christian syncretism with other pagan religions is *WILD* , dude.
Santeria, for one, then Christianity mixing with Greek/Slavic/Nordic/Germanic etc. mythologies...
The rabbit hole never ends.
May I assume that you are Hindi?
@@tulbanhawk ehhh yes and no, I’m more of an Omnist pagan ^^ thank you so much for asking, I’ve been writing and researching for years now, how their magic systems works, how it all ties together, ect. I would really hope this show is something to learn from and have fun with. Of course the story will be separate from the myths and beliefs meaning I won’t have to make the anime like blood of Zeus or Saint Saiya for example. You can also imagine how the “end of the world” is gonna turn out. 🤣 I’m also adding Islam, Zoroastrianism, Athenian, Judaism, ans many other monotheistic faiths with polytheistic faiths and shamanism, hell even heresies. so more like just- *All* of it.
Get me out of Prison Planet!
Raise your vibration, escape the simulation
Escape from the Prison Planet - Clutch (1994)
Please
Yaldabaoth: no
I'm not a gnostic by any stretch but it's a compelling explanation between the God of the old testament and what Jesus preached
It's uncanny when Christians try to say there's no contradiction there, and talk about God wiping out an entire city of people, or flooding the earth to kill everyone except one family, as being totally consistent with loving God that believes in compassion and forgiveness as prime virtues. I mean, they definitely *can* explain it, but their explanations are really weird and smell of rationalisation.
Jesus was a Platonist. Resurrection was the Eleusinian Mystery Ritual.
The forbidden fruit was the poison that gave you a near death experience. It lasted three days.
People let their feelings control their thoughts.
A large portion of their texts are forgeries, that's why Nobody liked tzem
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgement, than for that city.
Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.
Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Jesus was a Jew, a practicing one. He got circumcised, went to synagogues and studied the Torah that was passed down through Moses. He frequently quoted the prophets that hold YHWH monotheism fervently (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jonah etc.) to describe himself.
Trying to cut Jesus from his Jewish roots is entirely nonsensical; might as well throw it all away and become a pagan neoplatonist
@@clemenciosilvano8591 I think that is what he did.
Please do more of bible's books with the gnostic perspective
Genshin and Honkai lore but Pleroma is called the imaginary tree and kenoma is the sea of quanta
as very much an ex gnostic, that's why I love the two games
@@runaniko what made you decide to join and leave that religion?
@@4n0ngaming the core beliefs of gnosticism, such as christs esoteric teachings, the wickedness of the material world, the limit of the physical body and the suffering that channels through it were all reasons for my beliefs. I wasn't part of any particular sect, just a general gnostic. recently, I have made a realisation that made me value the idea that the monad is not any different from the demiurge due to the passiveness and free will he offers us, under the circumstances that he could save us all. the gospel of truth changed my views. it was a lot to take in, I've suffered and cried, but to say the least, god isn't all that benevolent. theology, especially christianity and its heresies are a huge interest of mine since I'm a writer that mostly focuses on religion, but also because of childhood ideas and the fact that I left orthodoxy so young. I have prayed before leaving gnosticism and I believe I have received an answer : to take a break.
Nice to see Genshin fans here. It’s interesting how the game inverts some of this lore.
@@AzukaTheGoat close enough, but I highly dislike genshin for its poor cultural representation and monotone storyline (opinion which may vary), but i appreciate the subtle gnostic themes. for now, I'm only a star rail player and I nearly screamed when I saw the aeons and their names and how they reference gnostic sects. i really wish they incorporated more aspects of gnosticism, it would make the story so pleasing for me
Dude, please, release a second part. This is equally fun and educational.
This is awesome. I've been researching the Gnostic myths per the Nag Hammadi Library and other sources for a project myself. It's a big picture that is tricky to follow at times, so I found your 'simple' approach refreshing and helpful. Looking forward to more. Cheers.
crazy how a perfect god would have an imperfect myth surrounding it
I don't think you realize that humans get things wrong
@@cobalt618 and the bible is a bunch of myths from anonon righters who probably just used the text to gain power, you can find examples of this in the text making god something to fear
@@cobalt618Humans created by said deity. If such a deity exists everything is necessarily contingent upon it. Any great or evil things in reality are caused by this deity.
If a triomni deity exists every single aspect of reality was put into place by said deity. It is a logical contradiction for anything to exist that is against that deity's will.
This was just fantastic. Yaldabaoth being motivated by the "wouldn't it be funny if" principle is an entirely accurate and hilarious observation. Gnosticism has been the only Abrahamic mythology that's ever made any kind of sense to me because of how much effort was put into fitting the existing Tanakh into the perspective of the kind of new agey hippy spiritualist that Jesus is usually interpreted/depicted as. History's winners in this case just ignored all the massive plot holes, but Gnostics actually did the work and expanded the lore to have everything make sense to people who like, y'know, aren't morally reprehensible. It's always been fascinating to me, but it's of course dense and there is no canon and it's way more concerned with spirituality than myth making and narrative so it can be hard to parse.
This animation really, REALLY does a great job putting all of that together in a really fun way. I really hope you do more of this, in particular I'm looking forward to the Gospel of Judas.
As stupid as this is, this completely fixes alot of "plot-holes" in hebrew/christian religions
This is a much more compelling version of Genesis than I’d ever heard.
Claiming Gnostics are Christian in anyway is hilarious to me
Why?
@@justinb864 the root of defining one as christian can be spread so long it can include everyone and no one
so the general consensus of what a christian is is:
-claim to believe in the new and old testament
-believe in the holy trinity
-be monotheistic
@@theomegapyrope9715But this consesus was decided by a group of christians who were opposing to the gnostics, so ofc gnosticism wont fit in into it.
@@memesmojo5622 indeed
@@theomegapyrope9715
>believe in the holy trinity
This was not a consistent belief among christians in the roman days. You just think so because trinitarians managed to kill everyone else.
Weirdly this is the first time religion has made sense to me…
yeah. i feel like so many dots have connected with this interpretation
@@stuckonaslide I think it’s just seeing god from a lense where he might be the bad guy it kinda makes more sense…I feel wrong for saying that lol
@@usethis4511 For me, the thought of god being evil just makes it interesting enough for me to actually listen. That
may be why it tends to have that effect.
I'm a Gnostic Priest and I discuss Gnosticism. I live and breath Gnostic Christianity. I also subbed to your channel. I can share more with you if you would like
Where can I find legit gnostics? I remember trying to find a gnostic church several years ago and found one in the us that was super far, didn't seem like they took gnosticism seriously and rarely held actual services
@@NTJV there's a few in the United States varying in theology and practices. There's a few meditation courses run by some Gnostic groups. I work with The Gnostic Catholic Union. There a collection of different Gnostic Philosophies groups and churches. They only use the term Catholic as in the Latin sense of Universal as there a Union of different Gnostic groups in alliance with one another. Most Gnostic groups start of or stay as private courses. Unfortunately because of the heavy persecution and genocide committed against the Gnostics. Gnostic Christianity has to rebuild itself. It however is now growing in popularity again thankfully. It's such a shame as at one stage Gnostic Christianity was the most popular and largest form of Christianity
larp
Thank you for the support! I hope you enjoy the series I know there was some (obvious) artistic liberty taken when combining aspects of the various Gnostic Myths. I am curious about a couple of things since I began looking into the Gnostica Ecclesia a while back here's the questions I would ask:
1: Do you consider yourselves to be the "true" Christians or would you rather abandon that label?
2: Among the various churches I've seen none of you seem to have a bible or canon I'm curious as to why, I've seen a few point to the "Gnostic Bible," but that's just a collection of various Gnostic texts, mostly from Nag Hammadi? Basically would your groups be averse to compiling a bible for any reason? (Because I was compiling my own Gnostic Bible because someone asked me to.)
3: I assume for the most part that you don't take the Gnostic myths like the one shown in this video as true, but I am curious what exactly is the modern Gnostic's stance on Yahweh, is he evil, a lesser god, simply fiction, or something else entirely?
@@ParryMegistus my comments are getting censored now. Yaldabaoth is the ignorance and ego of self and lower state of conciousness. Read the Gospel of John in Greek I translated its complete diffrent to what they show the public. The Gnostic bible are Not the Gnostic writing's they have been majority edited. Get or read the Nag hammadi instead. Many blessings I hope this helps
Given that Yaldabaoth was able to create an entire universe without the help of the Aeons, they should've just taken him on as a consultant or something
Hey bro I love your videos and I want to know more about Gnosticism, even though I'm a Catholic I still like to learn about other faiths and Christian branches. These videos are very interesting, I love them, keep it up.
modern day christians have a great propaga *ahem* I meant public relations team.
on an awesome note, this interpretation of the various gnostic texts was downright entertaining and the artwork is just magnificent. you def have my sub.
ngl this version of bible actually makes sense
Makes more sense, but still makes no sense.
Yeah, I really like it. It offers a very crisp solution to the problem of evil. I've never seen a solution to the problem of evil regarding the monotheistic religion that was not just mental gymnastics.
That's why comedy exists,it delivers truth in the forum of punchlines,it's the only real form of communication we have nowadays 🤷
"a monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors"
Incredible video. Really makes you think.
this is the most fascinating take on religion I've ever seen, and i cant believe it was written so long ago
this is GENIOUS, it makes too much sense, best fanfic ever
and I love how they explain Yaldabaoth, it feels so authentic
please tell me more, you got a new sub to help you escape Yaldabaoth
oh, yaldabaoth you wiseacre, you!
This was a delight to watch, please make more dude I love gmostic lore
This is basicly elden ring lore
"these texts mix everything from previous cultures... yes it must be the real thing"
But enough about the bible!
Ah yes , those heretics are back
heretic by what standard? yours is just the same story with different flavor🤣🤣
@@greatmusic142We haven't spent the last 2000 years trying to shut these losers up just to have secularists tell us this shit is actually interesting and could be a valid explanation of our world. Grow up.
@@greatmusic142silence heretic
@@greatmusic142 silence heretic
@@greatmusic142silence heretic
Please continue. I’m filling in the gaps
big up but you should mention it varies between """gnostic""" religion. Sethian, manichaeist and mandaeist all have different versions of the creation myth
This is wild, I love it. More please!
That explains why the people chosen by Yaldabaoth is acting so evil towards the Palestinian
In 'Researches into the Phenomenology of the Self', C. G. Jung writes "According to Irenaeus, the Gnostics held that Sophia represents the world of the Ogdoad, which is a double quaternity. In the form of a dove, she descended into the water and begot Saturn , who is identical with Yahweh."
Yaldabaoth did not create the universe, but only 'planets' in our solar system.
This makes a lot of sense tbh
Love how the gnostics whole point of view can be boiled down to “God is evil he made me this way” it just screams resentment to a disgusting
*The Old Testament God
This is good! Can you do the whole Old Testament? 😁☺️
wow this was so enjoyable ! please do a second part !
Finally i’ve been waiting for you to upload
If Gnosticism is true, why is the evil god letting us learn about the truth on CZcams
When will gnostic exodus come out
Bible DLC is crazy. Glad I didn’t sleep on it
I think I’ll just believe Jesus. Thanks though.
Jesus is the good guy who despite being crucified the schemes, manages to steer humanity in the right direction.
@@guysome3263 I think that’s the point.
You realize this is a Christian religion, right? Yeshua is their savior.
There's evidence to suggest Christ was born into a secret gnostic group that was still practicing elusion traditions of meeting the true God through spiked wine and ergotized bread. Christ grew up with these traditions and began teaching others openly. Jew's didn't like this as they firmly believe in the God YHWH or Yaldobaoth as the true God, so they crucified Christ to send a message that backfired, causing the Jewish high priests to collaborate with the Roman Government to create "Christianity" and the Catholic Church in order to control these new believers and steer them back towards the false God.
"The Kingdom of heaven is within you"
Follow Christ's teachings solely with no religious intentions/influences. We have all the tools for salvation within us, look inward through meditation/fasting/tantra/psychedelics and the truth will slap you in the face once found
Yaldaboath is the Orion Nebula. Depicted time and time again throughout the ancient world and even in the medieval cathedrals in Europe.
Where did they get Plemora and Kemora from
Plemora is the Monad, the origin of everything, was always there. Monad made Aons and that made the Plemora bigger. Aons made there own children and so on.
Kemora is everything outside of the Plemora. It's a void of nothingness until Yaldabaoth was casted out of the Plemora and made his material world.
@@Nicholas-nu9jx list the verses where the gnostics got them from
Don’t quote me on this, I’m just saying possible misinformation off the top of my head, but Gnosticism has roots older than the first Bible. It’s probably unrelated and might not be true, but that’s what I remember. Also Gnosticism wasn’t a unified religion, it was a bunch of beliefs generalized as one heretic religion.
@AlbinoPuffin yha gnosticsm has roots before first Bible and there many different versions.
Gnostic concepts are mostly just Christianized versions of what was then contemporary but secular greek philosophy, Neo-platonism.
The line between secular philosophy and religion was very blurry in ancient times tho, and greek was the common language across the Roman and later Byzantine empires, so word travels around and morphs into religion eventually, much like the Christ story.
Pleroma and Kenoma are just greek for fullness and emptiness, in the sense of having or not having true knowledge (gnosis) of the divinity of the human soul. Pleroma is also used to mean the perfect divine realm that's equivalent to heaven in modern Christianity.
Great video, but I’m curious. Is this going to become an actual series? Id love to see more!
The story of Jacob and Esau is the main reason why I think the gnostic story makes much more sense. Jacob is a horrible person, a liar and a cheat. And is rewarded for it.
Dude, this video is both hilarious and interesting, I have just one little footnote: you should use a de-esser on your voice, those hard S sounds were just killing me. Other than that great video!