If this gets 100,000 likes, I will make a part 2 talking about prosperity gospel, binitarianism, and more Find a NON-heretical church to go to: www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edi...
I disagree with your utter aversion to analogies, since the Fathers used them. The whole point of analogies is that they dont represent reality perfectly, like maps of the globe or the 2D representation of a cube. When you use all the analogies together they point to the truth of the Trinity, just like all projections of the globe point to the truth about it. Just like using Mercator doesnt mean you believe Greenland is half the size of Africa using the analogies dont necessarily point towards heresy. All analogies by definition fall short, even more so an analogy of God. That doesnt mean analogies are intrinsically misleading, only that you need to be careful with them, to not fall into -the belief that antartica is larger than africa- a heresy.
If we go outside Biblical sources. In Jewish mysticism God must be separated from creation because his absolute nature erase any existence (lake of sulphur may be in fact the God himself). Heaven is separated from the God by the barrier, in which there is eight cracks known as Ophanim (in Christianity called Seraphim) who transfer isolated aspects of God into creation, creating eight heavens/virtues. Plus additional barrier what separate truly godless space guarded by four Elemental Angels called Living Beasts (Cherubim), known as Leviathan, Behemot, Ziz and Bael. Who are under control of Angel of Destruction and King of Sheol Sandelphon (Abaddon). Seven heavens are in charge of Angelic princes called Archangels who represent seven virtues and seven Serpahin, who as overmind do not have own personalities and collectively represent God. It is why God in bible say "ours" calling himself. But one of Seraphims represent Sentience itself and as such it has personas, being both Archangel of Wisdom Raziel Helel (The Son) who directly control own domain, King of Angels and Voice of God Metatron (The Father) and mentioned Sandelphon (Holly Spirit of Creation). Those three persona of Sepahims are the Trinity and they are in fact the God.
Demonstrates that god apparently does not care how he is worshipped. I mean, all it would have taken to stop Martin Luther was one conversation with an angel. All it would have taken to stop the Mormons is one Angel showing up at the first sermon, telling evreyone that this guy is high and should not be listened to. Same with Islam. Muslims are worshipping the same god in a different way. God apparently does not care.
do you really wanna talk about it, or just force others to believe as you do? if you wanna talk about it, William Donahue here on youtube has some things to say
@@diogoribeiro3811the Greeks disproved that God cannot simultaneously be all good, all knowing, and all powerful, with simple maths. It’s called the Epicurus paradox.
I tried explaining to one of my 40k friends that there is a god in the 40k universe but the characters don't know him. He thought I meant the Emperor. I told him, no, it's the author of the book.
@@mattk6719 The bible, and Jesus, and God exists in 40k. IIRC the bible itself is considered the most dangerous book in the galaxy among demons, and I think Trazyn has one.
To be fair, that's just how counterfeits work, and ur only gonna find counterfeits of the real thing. If 1 is true the rest are false, plain and simple.
Recently started becoming a Christian after being an edgy athiest for much longer than I would like to admit. These videos have been super helpful with helping me understand the faith. Thank you so much!
I think it’s important to recognise that even if your mind can’t fully grasp some of these concepts, it doesn’t reflect on your salvation. Blatantly denying them is one thing, but you can be uneducated and illiterate and still be saved by the grace of God without understanding these things fully. Be blessed! 😊
I mean, if you come to the conclusion that God is multiple gods, then yeah; You're not worshipping God. That's essentially what heresy boils down to. if you are creating a God in a different image than our God, then you aren't actually worshipping God, rather an idol. So yeah. @@magic_honey
@jackboehm8408 But if the biblical texts themselves can confuse genuine readers, how is that fair? Your God isn't very helpful, almost like he doesn't care if we're saved or not.
Suppose I go to a cemetery to pray at a saints grave but someone erroneously points me to the wrong grave and sincerely believing go pray there; will my prayers thus be inefficacious? I think *NOT*
@@brianhasiholanmangoloipard6059Perhaps a time for society to re'Calibri'te their thoughts and decisions? Mayhaps, a time for the pri'Verdana's to go 'Tahoma'? For a better 'Impact' on their 'Futura'? ...I'll see myself out
My dad had never explain the trinity when I was a kid, and I wasn’t forced to go to any church or forced to learn the Bible, which made me sort of a uneducated Christian. When I started to get more interested in my faith, I watched CZcams videos like these to expand my knowledge of my own faith and other faiths in comparison. When I finally learned the trinity, my dad almost denounced it as if it was too complicated to understand and too dogmatic, since he grew up in a Catholic household and sometimes goes to Protestant baptists or nondenominational churches. He didn’t even say Jesus was God just the Son of God. I later explained those things to him, as well as predestination and free will to him, and he seemed to understand and was no longer hesitant to admit the Jesus is the one true God, and I’m thankful for the countless videos and knowledge my fellow Christians pursue and make. Even though I am now even more confident in my beliefs as I’ve won multiple debates against my atheist friends, I and still learning about the vast archive that is what we know of God
@@leblackrosethorn3834 The best way I can sum up the Trinity is this long paragraph which does explain some of the heresies as well: Three parts of infinity. Infinity divided by 3, however, infinity can't be divided due to it not being a number but would come out to infinity and so they are all equally infinity. Jesus' human will serves (of own accord) the Father's but is not subordinate, as Christ and the Father have the same divine will and the human will works together with the Father and Holy Spirit and have the same goals due to being of the same essence. The divine essence/soul has three persons equally attached to it and these come from that. They are not separate entities as they share the same divine source/soul. Gnosticism is a heresy as it says humans can connect to the divine like the persons in the Trinity. Rather than the persons of God coming from the essence itself, which humans have no part in. Modalism is heresy because it says that God shows himself as three depending on what is happening rather than three distinct, eternal persons that share the eternal essence. Arianism is a heresy as it denies the divine source of Christ. Nestorianism is a heresy as it divides the two natures of Christ, instead of seeing them as one unit. Imagine a package deal where you can't have one without the other. Theological Liberalism could be seen as a heresy as it tends to deny the deity of Christ, sufficiency of Scripture (debatable if counts as heresy), and denies the full extent of mankind's sin.
Ok so how do you explain these verses if there's One triune God? Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is One." John 10:30 "I and My Father are One." John 14:9b "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." God does not exist as three because as God's Son Jesus is God, and Jesus' Spirit is the Holy Spirit. All the positions of the Godhead are summed up through Jesus Christ. Trinitarians(80% of the Christian world)commit the partialist heresy by creating two more persons. Jews and Oneness Christians, like myself, know God is One God in One person. Look up the word Trinity in the Bible and you won't find it, but look up verses about Oneness and you will find there are over 200 verses that affirm the Oneness of God
@@clintparker oneness Christians love to take that verse out of context. Let me ask you something, you realize that the word used in the old testament for the Lord being one, is the same word used to describe a union? You heretics don't even realize it. Yall stick to pure english translations since if you read what it actually says, it contradicts you. Y'all barely have scripture to back you up
If it's only one person, how could the holy spirit come down as a dove and the father speak through the clouds, as well as Jesus be baptized at the same time? Explain that then, you're using arguments from silence, the "why is Trinity word not in bibel" like some monkey who can't do 2 and 2, thats like saying the word Bible isn't in the Bible.
@@metroplier8392 everything you've said is 100% heretical. I can only pray for those offended by the Truth that they come to know the Truth: that "the Lord is our God, the Lord is One."
@@metroplier8392 we have more Scripture to back our beliefs, which are not heretical, that Trinitarianism AKA a form of partialism does. Verses that affirm Trinitarianism: 0. Verses that affirm Oneness and deny the Trinity: over 200
Jesus was killed for heresy. The heretic they tied to the wood of the stake signifies jesus tied to the wood of the cross. The extreme pain the heretic suffered signifies the extreme pain Jesus suffered. The mortification of the flesh of jesus signifies the morification of the flesh of the heretic. The Pharisees signify the priests. The kings and rulers who oversee the execution signify pontius pilate and the local leaders. The trial and procession the heretic went through signify the trial and procession Jesus went through. Jesus said: "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." The religion of Christianity is devoted to being a heretic and then being brutally killed for it, thus imitating or mimicking Jesus. That is why it is obsessed with the concept of heresy and is devoted to bashing each other as heretics. All this is hidden in cryptic demonic ways.
I remember studying Gnosticism in high school. Like you said RZ, the lore is ridiculously complex and confusing to the point that it’s basically just a different religion that uses Christianity as the foundation. In Gnosticism the “God” of the Old Testament is not even God. He’s some demigod or some sort of lesser god. It’s worth studying to understand how pervasive this idea of “spiritual good, physical bad” is and how it has affected modern Christian sects. Interesting side note: The creators of the Matrix movies are Gnostics. The films are essentially Gnostic allegories. My literature teacher had my class watch the first movie at home and try to pick out where the Gnostic influence/message came into play.
@@aaronmontgomery2055No, because even with warhammer's absurdity and childish jokes, it's still better written than the abrahamic religion. More interesting to.... Blood for the blood god.
@@steffen5121 that's not true. The church makes you think you're dumber than to be able to understand god. When the bible says "your god is not the author of confusion" Modern Christianity is peganism disguised as monotheism
Well, we come from a long line of snake farmers, but ta tell ya da truth, business has been real bad lately He literally referenced this video in the examples he gave, it’s so good
Great let’s glorify dismissing someone before even letting him speak. Wow you guys are definitely the true non heretic Christian, well done. You definitely read Isaiah 13:11 and Proverbs 16 and apply it everyday. Nice.
@@vatt3436Okay that’s true but he literally said one can’t make analogies between the Holy Trinity and any earthly thing because the trinity isn’t like anything in the world, so any analogy can effectively be dismissed
Thank you RZ for this video! Your content has really been helping me getting my faith back recently. Keep doing what you are doing! Ignore the haters that have polluted the comments of this video, as they clearly have nothing interesting to say. God bless! ✝
I don't understand this video. If God isn't 3 parts and pelagianism is not true, then how does Jesus' crucifixion make sense? God sent his son, who is also himself, to die for us, even though He can't die, because He's eternal, and was sent to Hell, even though God is existence itself as you said in another video, so if Hell is devoid of God's presence, Hell doesn't exist, to save the righteous who were sent to Hell and also prove in his ressurection that he had gained victory over the powers of Hell, that is, the problems of sin and death, problems God (also Jesus) created in the first place by punishing all of us with original sin due to Adam and Eve's sin that clearly wasn't our fault. What is this?!
Ok... There is one God the Father. Jesus is a god but he is not God. Jesus is the only begotten of the Father and the holy spirit is not a god he's a spirit. All three are seperate and distinct individuals but are apart of the Godhead. God, the individual we worship is our father who created us all. Jesus Christ his only begotten son is the mediator of his plan to get us imperfect mortal children back home to father. Through Jesus Christ and his example and sacrifice we are saved and will return home. The holy spirit speaks to us and helps us in are daily lives to navigate this evil world. Im starting to notice that "Christianity" isn't very christian and is completely wrong and full of heresy's of the actual gospel of Jesus Christ. This makes me sad for all the people who are deceived by Satan into not knowing this. 😢
It's strange that Arians are condemned as terrible heretics, while there isn't a single verse that says that the son existed eternally. But there are lots of verses and concepts that imply that there was a time when the son was not. The most obvious would be that he is called "son of God". God was first, the son came later. It's even stranger that subordinationism is called a heresy because there are lots of verses that clearly teach that Jesus is still subordinate to God after his resurrection and glorification in heaven. And there isn't a single verse that teaches that the son is eternally co-equal with the Father. For that reason every church father of the first three centuries was a subordinationist.
@@intimidate45 This verse doesn't pose any threat to Arian theology. Arians believed that Jesus existed before Abraham, but not since eternity past. That's an infinite difference. You will probably say, that this verse says that Jesus is Yahweh. No, it doesn't. The Greek "ego eimi", I am (he), is not a way of refering to Yahweh. Otherwise the boy in John 9:9 would also claim to be Yahweh. Jesus is claiming to be the light of the world - John 8:12, 9:5. He was that light, the hope of humanity already before Abraham. Already after the Fall in Genesis 3 was the snake-crushing seed prophesied. That was about 2000 years before Abraham. Jesus testifies in the same chapter that his Father is the God of the Jews = Yahweh (v. 54) and that he is a MAN who testifies of the truth that he has heard from GOD (=Yahweh). He clearly distinguishes himself from Yahweh. If saying "I am" would be claiming to be Yahweh I would blaspheme God, whenever I said "I am hungry", "I am tired" or "I am a sinner".
The council of Nicaea was called by the Roman state to clarify what Christ was, about 75 years after Arius was born. The Trinity was/is arguably just an instrument of the Empire to solidify its state religion.
@@pascalfelleiter7740 John 1:1 alone can disprove the goofy Arius. Moreover, the "I AM" that Jesus used is way different than using normally like we do. If you read the context in the bible, you will see Pharisees were trying stone Jesus because they had read and understood somewhat of the old testament and knew the reference that Jesus was saying.
I love this channel. It helps me stand stronger in my faith. I thank my math teacher for introducing this channel through the "Arguments of God Explained" video.
@@Mystic879 First of all, I'm not in the United States. I'm in Canada. Secondly. I go to a Christian school, and the video I was talking about is the "Arguments about God explained" video, not this one.
After watching this i become kinda glad i'm good old atheist. I believe that if you catch any "devoted" Christians which regularly attend church and start ask them this deep questions about Jesus nature you will have bunch of heretics in no time because almost nobody really give much of thinking to all that details.
You're not wrong. Most so-called Christians are just using it as an in-group singifier. It explains the current trend for "conversion" to Catholicism with high profile conservatives. Why Catholicism? It's the first church that springs to mind.
When I was very little, my dad tried explaining the trinity to me, and how it was a complex and infinite subject, but I thought I figured it out and told him I had it solved it, and that god just switched back and forth between the three of them, basically modalism. He was veeerrry quick to explain that thats was NOT it 😂
As an atheist, I always find it amusing when I'm debating with a liberal Christian, and they end up spouting actual heresy trying to come up with a counter-argument. Like, if you can't even get your own theology right, why should I give you any legitimacy?
@@IDoThings490 What has God got to do with humans intellect?? The Bible says we can't fully comprehend God. If you think you can, then that's not God.
Im an athiest, but i do believe understanding other religions and practices is important for people to come together and understand one another, so thanks for the education
@@thereal4815this is funny considering most religious people are religious because of their lack of knowledge. Knowledge being facts or even reading the Bible. Not intelligence
You should definitely make an episode addressing islams objections to Christianity (“corrupted scripture”, Jesus doesn’t claim to be God, contradictory ideas, etc.) I feel like it’d be great with your video structure
Also how literally every historian of the first century agrees that the fact that Jesus was crucified is absolutely certain. The Quran insists that He was not crucified
Bruh he doesn't need to the fact that "prophet" Muhammed is an apollinarianism version of Jesus is clear enough evidence that there's no theologically sound reason Islam can be right in any way
What you are looking for is Sam Shamounian, look up his vids on youtube. He explains the mistakes/lies in islam and judaism, dissects their anti christian arguments, explains the errors in translation of greek, hebrew, arabic words used in scripture or quran. There is also the yt channel called TheArchive, its a place where particular clips from Sams livestreams are stored.
@@michaeltagor4238 receiving revelation from god does not mean you have a divine mind. Muslims don't believe the prophet pbuh had any attributes of god at all.
@@calebklingerman7902 actually in Quranic lore it says that Jesus wasnt crucified but Yudas Iskarot was. It was made to appear that he was Jesus because god whilst literal Jesus was brought to the heavens which im pretty sure hes still alive to this day. (Didnt come to argue but simply stating an interesting perspective from a religion with completely different values)
excited for this one!! lol I’m working on the first Spanish video translation of your channels most popular videos, it’s just gonna take me a while cause I’m a full time student and working part time job
Man, here in Latin America we need a lot channels like this one, because we got a lot of heretic videos full with Superstition and with no doctrine. This is the kind of CZcams channel that we need here. Thanks to god (sorry for my bad english)
@@Amfortas If you had good evidence you wouldn't be saying "he owes me nothing" Instead you would be giving me on good piece of evidence that he exists. But you don't have any good evidence so you make up an excuse like this. OH, and he does owe me because a threat without evidence isn't really a threat. His message is quite clear. He sent Jesus to threaten all mankind. Either believe in him, love and obey him and if you don't he will torture you in the most possible way for eternity by throwing you into his torture pit called Hell. So yeah, you do owe me at minimum one good piece of evidence that he exists because god won't. Why would an all powerful, all knowing god who loves me not give me just one good piece of evidence he exists? This should not be a problem for him to do since he supposed to be able to do anything possible. Instead he has to rely on humans to spead his word, just like every other religion - none of these gods provide good evidence they exist. In other words you are just like every other religion with no good evidence for the existence of their god or gods. Same old story, faith, personal testimony(AKA personal experience and ancient books full of contradictions with stories proven by science to be false.
or for warhammer fantasy, heresy is saying that you saw a bipedal ratman using advanced weapons, as as we all know the skaven are but a myth. Update: the skaven were in fact not a myth and have tried to crash the moon into the planet.
Now let's make a video on the various conceptions about the natures of the four Chaos Gods and about Chaos itself (and the matter of the Horned Rat yes-yes) !
As i Catholic I've esperienced many arguments with protestants about Virgin Mary where they told me that she is't mother of God just his "human part" or whatever. Good to know this heresy has an actual name.
It's important to understand the heresies because it's so easy to fall into them. "It all seems a bit nitpicky." "If it comes down to one's eternal soul, I'll split as many hairs as it takes."
The thing that's wild is that the whole "believe I'm God or you'll go to hell" thing is a purely Christian invention. Like... Judaism, the religion from which Christianity came, has no belief in hell nor anything that really compares to hell. In Judaism, everybody goes to heaven - some souls just take longer to get there.
I mean you have to first believe you have an eternal soul. Which you can neither prove nor rebute. So really it's a matter of "will this make me happy" and in some cases yes. But I'd say religion as a whole makes people unhappy.
3:48 Humans trying to understand the trinity is like a 2D person trying to make sense of a 3D object, there's a good analogy. edit: thanks for the likes but please stop arguing with each other in the comments, I'm not a bible expert or a scientist.
@@sponge6171because that is a good analogy, a 2d person knows a 3d world exists and is logical but unfathomable Hence why the trinity is logical but unfathomable
The writer didn't even try in this video to explain the heresies, hence the 9 minutes and misconceptions throughout from lack of research. Dislike bar showing mass discontent for the low effort.
This video was so well done. Thank you! Liked, favourited, and subscribed. Also, does anyone know what that orchestral piece was when Gnosticism came up? What was beautiful.
@@WARLORDDOM I should have made this more clear but some of the heresies made more sense than the explanation of the trinity any thing you could recomend I watch that goes more in depth.
Months ago i prayed to God "If there's a faulty in me that i don't know of, please tell me so i can change" I thought He will tell me from a life experience. I never even thought that He will tell me directly that i believed in 2 heresy these past years through your PPT-like meme video lol. God bless your soul, m8
im an atheist, so i understand if you dont like me, but i always find religion so interesting and love learning about other people's world views. Very cool video
TBH, I think this video is probably making more people irreligious. It only "makes sense" (ie - it completely does not) to people that are already faithful. To those that are wavering in their faith, it show how illogical the most fundamental tenets of Christianity are and might actually push them to abandon what little faith they had had. So, I guess score one for atheism? If you want actually useful explanations of Christianity that don't attempt to make sense (because it doesn't), check out Ready to Harvest. At least there, there's no attempt to rationalize the irrational. The presenter/content is almost completely Christian and is as about non-biased as could be.
As a Christian I'd rather be friends with a understanding Atheist than a dogmatic, hateful Christian. Wanting to understand others, imo, is a good way to show love to others and I respect those who do their best to show this kind of love wherever possible.
Honestly, I think I like you on the sole fact you’re not a dogmatic (fill in the blank) with your views. I myself respect and study other peoples views, because I find it fascinating and interesting to learn, even though I am still Christian. I see where you’re coming from
@@skipslash7367i pray that you actually stop suppressing the truth like Romans 1 says, and you repent. if you stay in your sin your going to hell. i urge you to repent. i could easily destroy your worldview in a debate but i’m guessing you probably don’t want to debate. i hope you come to Christ.🙏 you need him. your worldview is crushed without him.
@@Veltresworld suppressing the truth? suppressing what truth? that i should give up all my power and faith in myself and give myself up to some imaginary higher power? sorry, no, as i have a good relationship with my father, unlike you
@@skipslash7367 and this is why you love sin. John 8:44: "You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires." You need to repent immediately. you don’t believe in God? that’s a truth claim. where do you get truth outside of God??
I love the map that you've made of all the non-heretical churches you've compiled. Is there a link somewhere where we can suggest churches that we attend, and if they aren't heretical you could add them to the map too?
My favorite thing about being a Christian is similar to to my favorite thing about quantum mechanics/unified field theory. The deeper the study goes, the more it makes sense, but the more you realize you still need to learn and will never fully understand this side of eternity.
That little "that's mooodalism pahtrick" tucked away at the top was hilarious! I heard the voice! Thanks for that. Need to go back and rewatch. Great video, by the way, very informative.
I genuinely like this explanation vid even though Im not a christian. As a buddhist, we do suffer the same problem that ppl interpret the scriptures to suit their beliefs and completely forget about reaching Nirvana
I'm Christian and I've been studying shintoisme for research purposes. Would you say that Buddhism in Japan had been watered down because of shinto? Or has it retained the essentials?
@@workinpromobuddhism has regional variants everywhere and (folk buddhism) and is infused and spliced moreso than watered down. actual plain buddhism isn't even a typical religion but rather a philosophical exercise.
@@dentelle2190 I see, and this is not an issue for the Dalai Lama or any Buddhist authority that the religion has many shapes based on local beliefs? The philosophical exercise you talked about I've heard some defend it but does this include reincarnation and the different planes of existence too or no?
No matter the religion, I've noticed only a very few adhere to the actualy doctrine set forth by the original material. That begs the question then, what one believes is the true doctrine has that then been changed over time and we simply don't know what we don't know.
Can you make a video on cults to watch out for, especially on college campuses? Yesterday I was approached by two ladies asking me if I knew about "God the Mother" who apparently is a South Korean lady that Jesus prophesized about in Revelation? Thankfully I wasn't deceived but I worry someone with less biblical knowledge would have been, especially since their flyer for their Bible study said "Heavenly Family and Earthly Family" which sounds innocent to the average college student, especially if they were raised Christian but don't have solid Biblical or theological knowledge.
Generally just stay away from any cult/sect/denomination that aren't mainstream Christianity. There's reason they aren't mainstream, and it's not anything good.
I'd say watch out for any cult. Try following a well-known denomination, ideally a high church one that believes in real presence in the sacraments and that has tradition (ideally Roman Catholic imo)
@@justhair17 yeah, if you want the “true” teachings that the apostles taught then definitely join one of the apostolic churches. Either Eastern Orthodoxy or some rite of Catholicism, would be the ideal.
They're from a group called the World Mission Society Church of God. Strange group that purports to worship a Christ-like woman in South Korea. Check out the Wikipedia page for them it's weird stuff.
The Biblical Unitarian CZcams channel is an opposing perspective. Although they wouldn’t go as far as Redeemed Zoomer has, nor be as arrogant and angry about it
Yeah, this is why the trinity to me is needlessly complicated. Having read 3 versions of the bible the implication I got was simply Jesus was God's son and we worship God through Jesus as he is the vessel of our salvation. Much simpler than all this trinity nonsense.
@@cosmictraveler731 why not worship the God that Jesus worshipped? Jesus didn´t say "pray to me" or pray through me", he said pray to the Father alone. follow religion OF Jesus, not religion ABOUT Jesus.
@@blacksnapper7684 yet in the following verse Jesus says he and disciples are one just like he is one with the Father. Are disciples gods too? John 17:3 Jesus says the ONLY TRUE GOD is the Father, and Jesus is someone who that Father sent. Jesus says on multiple occasions he is only doing the will of the Father. Jesus also says the geatest commandment is ”Hear O Israel! Your God is One!” Jesus also says Father is greater than he (Jesus). He also says ”I am going back to my Father and your Father, my God and your God”. Does God have a God? Not ONCE did Jesus say you should worship him, or that he is god. Yet multiple times he says Father is the greatest, Father is the Only True God, worship only the Father and so on. Again: follow religion OF Jesus, not religion ABOUT Jesus. Jesus didn’t preach christianity, and he wasn’t a christian.
Sir, this is psychological projection on your part. You are a man who dismisses two thousand years of careful and precise thought on a difficult issue sides with those who yearn for a more simplistic and less thoughtful version, and claims the thoughtful man is thoughtless, and the thoughtless man is thoughtful.
Because its hilarious how needlessly complicated and downright contradictory it is. Its better to simply say its a dogma of the church and not make sense of it because it will just expose how weak the foundations are.
I would note that he is a Calvinist. So there is a bias of his own within the theology he follows. I’d take his explanations with a grain of salt. His explanation of Pelagianism is a term Calvinists throw on non-Calvinists to metaphorically beat them into submission to Calvinism. I’d suggest reading more on what Pelagius _actually_ taught before using this video as a template for your dive into Christianity.
@klaustheViking is right, this video is excellent, but its explanation of Pelagianism is where it falls short. We aren't born guilty of Adam's sin, or God would judge us for Adam's sin on Judgement day, and we know God judges us for our own sin, not the sin of others. We aren't born sinful (as in guilty of sin). We are born with a fallen nature that is fatally inclined to sin (will sin given the opportunity.) This is why babies don't go to hell if they die, they aren't held responsible for sins they didn't commit. Also there is the age of acountability, but that requires some more biblical research/explanation than I can give in a CZcams comment. Like I said though, great video apart from the Pelagianism explanation.
But babies do sin. Our fallen nature leads all of us to sin constantly in everything we do. Their sins are miniscule and trivial in comparison to what we do, of course, but if you believe that they have souls then you must believe that they have the guilt of sin, the same as we all do. So what happens to them? The answer is that nobody knows. My belief is that everyone who has not accepted Christ due to ignorance or incapacity is, at the moment of death, given a full and perfect knowledge of the Truth, and is given one final opportunity to believe in Jesus then.
Yeah, this is why the trinity to me is needlessly complicated. Having read 3 versions of the bible the implication I got was simply Jesus was God's son and we worship God through Jesus as he is the vessel of our salvation. Much simpler than all this trinity nonsense.
@@cosmictraveler731amen to that brother. If God wanted us to believe Jesus was somehow also God... I would think he would explicitly say so. Rather we get Jesus saying things like "The Father dwells in me and I dwell within the Father" and "The Father tells me what to say, and I say it" and "My will is the will of the Father"
well the thing is, heresy isn't necessarily sinful. there's a huge difference between misunderstanding the trinity vs, just making up an example here, saying that God is infinitely evil. the former is a heresy, and the latter is also a heresy, but more importantly, it's extremely blasphemous.
@@cosmictraveler731 The Trinity is not complicated at all. I'll explain it in two sentences. There is one God: Jesus (the Son) is God, the Father is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And none of them are each other. Done. With a little faith in a transcendent being beyond total human comprehension, this doctrine is easy (and fun!) to accept.
@@beamshooter John 10:30-33 John 17:21-22 John 1:1-5 John 5:18 John 8:58 Actually maybe just read the whole Gospel of John again. Jesus explicitly claims to be God multiple times.
On the topic of gnosticism, if the physical world requires redemption, why does Jesus need to redeem that which is inherently good? If it is inherently good because it was created by God, why then do we see ourselves as sinners and not as the embodiment of the divinity that created us? And finally, how is it possible that one of God's creations is infallible and another is so easily corrupted?
@@therealmaskriz5716 Sure, but there's a plethora of scriptures that contradict the trinity as its advertised. "Aryanism", as we like to call it today, is well known to have been the defacto belief until somewhere in the ball park of 150ad to 200ad, long after the apostles died. It is well understood that NONE of the figures in the bible taught or believed in the trinity, and the trinity as understood today is a "sacred secret" which the biblically scholars discovered later on. Whether you choose to believe the trinity as advertised is up to you, but no there is no reason that considering the bible forces you to be a trinitarian as there are many Christian beliefs that don't. The term "Christian" was coined in the first century to denote a follower of Christ, not someone who believed he was God. You can carry the name Christian simply by following his ways, you do not have to believe he was God and that he requires worship.
Very nice vid! Started watching your vids recently and I really like the topics you talk about. I didn't know that explaining the trinity in terms of analogies was a heresy! It's done by a lot of Sunday school teachers here in our coptic churches, will be sure to spread the word, thank you.
It's not a heresy to use analogies, but it's more like a mistake of argumentation. The reason is because God is bigger than our universe, so all attempts to explain Him by referencing the universe will produce inaccuracies if you look too closely. This video explains some cases of how analogies actually create heresy when taken too literally: czcams.com/video/KQLfgaUoQCw/video.html
I recently saw a post talking about Christianity and how “if your religion says that you are so irrdeemably bad that the literal God of the universe had to send his son down to die to fix it, your worldview is incredibly messed up”. This video made me realize two things. One: this take COMPLETELY ignores the love behind this action. God didn’t HAVE to do that. He could have left us alone and let us all be slaves to sin. But he didn’t. Jesus came down, *willingly*, to save us from ourselves. Two: This take ignores that Jesus and God are not entirely separate beings. John Chapter 1 and John 10:30 come to mind as they emphasize that God the Son and God the Father are one and the same. God didn’t cruelly send some “other” person to pay the price for our sin. He Himself came down to pay that price.
@@vSwampFox Which heresy does the Protestant church commit? If it's something created by the Catholic church, does it have a scriptural basis? Legitimate questions - not trying to pry or be sarcastic. No church or denomination has the power to denounce something unless it is directly in contradiction with a scriptural commandment or obvious truth. Anything else is man-centered. The reason for sola scriptura is that, if you are starting at any other point than directly God's words which came from Him, it is going to be inherently flawed. 1 Cor 4:6 is a good text for this.
@@N1c2k3 Well it's probably important for you to figure out first, why you have the premise in your mind to say these phrases. I'm surely not one to be able to spend all kinds of time debating on the internet, but being as you asked, here's what I'd consider if I were in your position, asking the questions you are asking. Quote/ "No church or denomination has the power to denounce something unless it is directly in contradiction with a scriptural commandment or obvious truth". "Anything else is man-centered." " The reason for sola scriptura is that, if you are starting at any other point than directly God's words which came from Him, it is going to be inherently flawed." /end Quote That alone is quite the list of things already preconceived in your mind. Especially considering, scripture contradicts what you're saying. -God gave the Apostles the authority to bind and loose. What did they Bind & Loose? A lot of things. Both before Christ's death, and after. Not all of which are written in what you call the Bible. -"Obvious Truth", is a completely subjective statement. -There is no holy scripture, instructing the apostles, nor the disciples, to collect, and decipher books being written by themselves, and then declare which of these hundreds of books are or are not worthy for divine teaching. The only scripture that even attempts to covers such a task, is the authority given to them, by Jesus, to Bind & Loose. -Sola Scriptura is a man made belief philosophy taught by very late Christian sects. Ancient Christendom, never mentions this ideology. Ever. Plus, Paul himself contradicts this belief system, when he instructs his listeners of the things they are to do, that are not written, but are heard and passed down through tradition. Not to mention, there was no bible during the time of their teaching and preaching. Hope this helps you on your journey. I'm certain it's plenty food for thought. PS- If you are really interested in deep history, regarding Christianity, NewAdvent \.org is an incredible resource for historical writings. Cheers
Being a Sikh person this is one of my favourite channels about abrahamic religions since it helps me expand my knowledge about other forms of worships and also understand things in more perspective. (Also helps that I can nerd out infront of my friends at times, i know not a very good hobby) Edit: guys stop fighting. It's fine if something is far right or far left, we should focus more on what's the current content of the video, and the comment (in this case my comment) more.
@@BurnBird1 i understand, and honestly at the end of the day I am just here to learn about stuff, religious politics is a very messy and complex issue which a smart person should avoid unless necessary. So there's that.
@@rishabhsingh357 That's fine, I just wanted to make sure that you kept that in mind. If you are interested in some more scholarly sources, I would heavily recommend "Religion for Breakfast" and "Let's Talk Religion" They do cover much more than just Christianity, but they have some excellent videos on early and different branches of Christianity.
I was a conservative Christian for several decades, during which I quite advanced in secular studies. On the other hand, I had questions I believed theologians would answer... After not getting satisfactory responses, I decided to venture into theological studies. You were right on warning about the following: if one concludes, like Arius did, that Jesus came From God and had a Beginning (since being before the Earth was founded does not equal being Eternal); and then one realizes, as Nestoius did, that a Woman (a created being) cannot be the Mother of God Almighty; that Jesus teachings were: "To achieve Salvation, you have to keep the LAW better than the Pharisee" and "when I come again, I will judge you by your WORKS (because you did it to one of my littlest...)"; that it is Paul who later on said: "If you are a Gentile, keeping the Law is Optional, You are Saved by Faith in the Sacrifice of Jesus" and "Christianity doesn't make sense if you don't believe that FAITH the resurrected Jesus is what saves you"........Then, You Are most Right: the Whole Building Crumbles down!!!
Dude, according to this Video I am a Heretic on about 4 Levels because I try and follow what the bible says and not what I was taught growing up. I had loads of questions too, because what I was taught growing up never fully meshed with the Scriptures. There is another channel you may like that helped me figure it all out. It is called Kingdom in Context. He has also been called a heretic, but I don't think that matters. We are all trying to seek the truth. You can call me a Mary Poppins for all I care, as long as I am seeking and following truth. Good luck on your Journey my brother, may you find and build a relationship with the God that you already know exists.
With due respect, that’s a terrible thing to say. We should want to get Jesus right lest we end up like the Muslims Mormons or jehova’s witnesses! We as a flock must not go astray
With all due respect, that's a terrible thing to say. We should try to respect other people's beliefs even if they don't align with our religion! This way we won't create unnecessary religious conflict ;)@@toastydoge9934
Those points are considered SO crucial yet in the entire Bible there's still not enough scripture about it? What was God's plan on this? Teach Jews about the ritual of induced miscarriage but not teach Christians about the exact nuances of the Trinity?
@@thebiggestcauldron Even the parts the Bible is clear on lots of Christians still ignore. Redeemed Zoomer is constantly preaching works salvation on twitter, even though the Bible is clear we're saved by faith alone
@@RexMattos This is a topic that is commonly brought up. The first point I'd like to make is the agreement that the Bible is God's word and contains no contradictions within it as it was inspired by God himself. This is supported in 2 Timothy 3:16 "All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right." 1 Thessalonians 2:13 "Therefore, we never stop thanking God that when you received his message from us, you didn’t think of our words as mere human ideas. You accepted what we said as the very word of God-which, of course, it is. And this word continues to work in you who believe." I will now show you some scripture written by Paul. Romans 3:27-4:5 "Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. 28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law. 29 After all, is God the God of the Jews only? Isn’t he also the God of the Gentiles? Of course he is. 30 There is only one God, and he makes people right with himself only by faith, whether they are Jews or Gentiles.31 Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law. The Faith of Abraham 4 Abraham was, humanly speaking, the founder of our Jewish nation. What did he discover about being made right with God? 2 If his good deeds had made him acceptable to God, he would have had something to boast about. But that was not God’s way. 3 For the Scriptures tell us, “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” 4 When people work, their wages are not a gift, but something they have earned. 5 But people are counted as righteous, not because of their work, but because of their faith in God who forgives sinners." I will now show you some scripture written by James. James 2:14-26 "What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions? Can that kind of faith save anyone? 15 Suppose you see a brother or sister who has no food or clothing, 16 and you say, “Good-bye and have a good day; stay warm and eat well”-but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do? 17 So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless. 18 Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” But I say, “How can you show me your faith if you don’t have good deeds? I will show you my faith by my good deeds.” 19 You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. 20 How foolish! Can’t you see that faith without good deeds is useless? 21 Don’t you remember that our ancestor Abraham was shown to be right with God by his actions when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see, his faith and his actions worked together. His actions made his faith complete. 23 And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” He was even called the friend of God. 24 So you see, we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone. 25 Rahab the prostitute is another example. She was shown to be right with God by her actions when she hid those messengers and sent them safely away by a different road. 26 Just as the body is dead without breath, so also faith is dead without good works. When we read both the scriptures from James and Paul it looks like a contradiction but 2 Timothy 3:16 and 1 Thessalonians 2:13 says that this can't be the case as the word is directly inspired by God and God makes no contradictions. So the logical answer is that both James and Paul are talking about the same thing and their teachings are compatible with one another. In this instance you can see that James is not saying that you do acts to gain salvation but that the holy spirit when you have faith compels you to do acts or works in Gods glory. The acts are an outward expression from your faith not the other way around. The reason why James wrote this is because people were slandering Paul and taking his teachings out of context saying things like "Well, if we are justified while we are ungodly by faith alone, and this magnifies the grace of God, then let's just keep sinning, because we are secure anyway and God's grace will get more glory." This should hopefully clear things up for those who blasphemed Jesus by saying that his sacrifice wasn't enough for our sins and that we must go through extra steps in order to gain salvation. I can quote many many more verses and scripture supporting this however this comment is already exhausted and long enough so I will wait to see what reply's I get before I go overboard and lose people with a sea of words.
@@RexMattos People are just lazy, selfish assholes, and want to subconsciously convince themselves that they're going to have a good end, without having to actually put in any effort or consideration for others.
Based on the info on Liberalism that can also fit those who fly the American flag around their churches and preach more about Republican politics than about Christ and theology. Interesting! Great post!!! ❤
Absolutely. Republicans and democrats are basically identical on a spiritual level, politics is depraved. Unless your politics are promoting the Social Kingship of Christ, they belong outside of God's house.
“Before Him all the nations are as nought, as nothing and void He counts them” Isaiah 40:17, that includes the United States. Idolatry and blasphemy is all that’s behind the hood of nationalism
Yes that is valid. Tying nationality to religion corrupts both. One must live in the world, but to worship a government of man is not the intent of the gospel ministry. Divorcing the endeavor from the dictates of man's governments is one of the things that brought forth the executions and suffering. This is not to say that your relationship with God is to be completely ignored when functioning in community, commerce or governance. The enlightened morality can impose heavy consideration on your choices at voting....but you can't vote your way to salvation. C S Lewis often said, my nation is not my church....which is ironic of an Anglican to say when the national elected government appoints the Archbishop and places them in the PMs Cabinet.
You forgot to mention Protestantism!!! 😏 /s, I’m a Catholic, I love watching your channel, and I speak for most Catholics in saying this, you’re definitely making a positive influence!
I guess but after the second vatican council where technically still part of the catholic church if we dont believe in the other stuff and are baptised so I guess it isnt but still is. I dont know but if I was going to switch it would probably be orthodox. Still love all Christians who hold core doctrine.
Ok so does God have a single ? Or is it one will by person? I see easily the heresy for all that but I struggle with modalism. What's the middle between modalism and tritheism?
Let me try my own answer after réflexion. From far it looks like one single God (1substance) ; but when you look a little Closer at how it works how He is, you distinguish three distinct persons through the relation they have with each other. And I would summarize like so: Trinity is God who loves God without loving Himself
@@raphou1280 I like your honest question here. It is one will per person, it is definition of personhood to have a will, not a generic nature. Your attempt to define the persons is cute, but remember that each person also loves himself as well, as that is not wrong to do. Many Christians get confused about the individuality of persons, and start to call it "tritheism," and they are just mistaken.
Hey, I love watching your videos, I learn a lot from them. You should definitely make one about Jehovah's witnesses if it's not already the case, maybe I missed it. Thank your your hard work, God Bless ❤
Another issue with Pelagianism is it basically denies that god is all knowing YOU DO NOT HAVE FREE WILL Can you take your cat make them invincible and chuck them out the window, then stop them exactly 100 atoms above the ground? No, you can't. That's not possible, god knows you will sin, god knows everything, and you can't not sin.
Question: My pastor at my church is a woman, I know biblically that's wrong so I always thought that's her sacraments like baptizing people was void and invalid is that Donatism😢
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@@user-to7qd5gk5kIt is basically modalism
You forgot Protestantism.
I disagree with your utter aversion to analogies, since the Fathers used them. The whole point of analogies is that they dont represent reality perfectly, like maps of the globe or the 2D representation of a cube.
When you use all the analogies together they point to the truth of the Trinity, just like all projections of the globe point to the truth about it. Just like using Mercator doesnt mean you believe Greenland is half the size of Africa using the analogies dont necessarily point towards heresy.
All analogies by definition fall short, even more so an analogy of God. That doesnt mean analogies are intrinsically misleading, only that you need to be careful with them, to not fall into -the belief that antartica is larger than africa- a heresy.
My anxiety when trying to figure out what the trinity is without committing heresy: 📈📈📈📈📈📈
If we go outside Biblical sources. In Jewish mysticism God must be separated from creation because his absolute nature erase any existence (lake of sulphur may be in fact the God himself). Heaven is separated from the God by the barrier, in which there is eight cracks known as Ophanim (in Christianity called Seraphim) who transfer isolated aspects of God into creation, creating eight heavens/virtues. Plus additional barrier what separate truly godless space guarded by four Elemental Angels called Living Beasts (Cherubim), known as Leviathan, Behemot, Ziz and Bael. Who are under control of Angel of Destruction and King of Sheol Sandelphon (Abaddon). Seven heavens are in charge of Angelic princes called Archangels who represent seven virtues and seven Serpahin, who as overmind do not have own personalities and collectively represent God. It is why God in bible say "ours" calling himself. But one of Seraphims represent Sentience itself and as such it has personas, being both Archangel of Wisdom Raziel Helel (The Son) who directly control own domain, King of Angels and Voice of God Metatron (The Father) and mentioned Sandelphon (Holly Spirit of Creation). Those three persona of Sepahims are the Trinity and they are in fact the God.
To be honest its one of the hardest part of christianity to understand. A lot of theologians have a problem with understading it.
@@Skiemk Not really. But you need apply "cyberpunk" logic here.
BTW: I see someone removed my detailed explanation from here?
Good fuck if it ain’t the most difficult thing out there.
Robbie Coltrane does a pretty fair job of explaining it in Nuns on the Run.
Love how half of these are just “we changed just one thing” but that tiny thing is actually really important
"Very important" here meaning "internally contradictory"
Wait til you learn about modernism.
"we changed just one thing... and not one single thing remained the same"
@@alfgand8040 very good point actually. That should be part II. Which he said was coming up.
Demonstrates that god apparently does not care how he is worshipped. I mean, all it would have taken to stop Martin Luther was one conversation with an angel. All it would have taken to stop the Mormons is one Angel showing up at the first sermon, telling evreyone that this guy is high and should not be listened to. Same with Islam. Muslims are worshipping the same god in a different way. God apparently does not care.
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God: Do A
You: No, B
You: I do B, so God doesn't care lol why dont he send angel
"I thinks Jesus is someone worth arguing" liked that sentence. really motivates to talk about faith with others
do you really wanna talk about it, or just force others to believe as you do?
if you wanna talk about it, William Donahue here on youtube has some things to say
intead of arguing to prove you are right , learn and acept other religions , god is all loving and the truth is disclosed when you die
@@diogoribeiro3811the Greeks disproved that God cannot simultaneously be all good, all knowing, and all powerful, with simple maths. It’s called the Epicurus paradox.
Warhammer fans: "Man, the inquisition labels a lot of things heretical."
Redeemed Zoomer: "Hold my bible."
I tried explaining to one of my 40k friends that there is a god in the 40k universe but the characters don't know him. He thought I meant the Emperor. I told him, no, it's the author of the book.
@@mattk6719 The bible, and Jesus, and God exists in 40k.
IIRC the bible itself is considered the most dangerous book in the galaxy among demons, and I think Trazyn has one.
The equivalent of the Trinity in WH40k would be if every attempt to explain the emperor resulted in heresy.
@@gestapoid It's "how many primarchs are there?"
20? There is no such thing as the 2nd and 11th primarch, heresy!
To be fair, that's just how counterfeits work, and ur only gonna find counterfeits of the real thing. If 1 is true the rest are false, plain and simple.
“Then he got slapped by Santa Claus”
THAT had me laughing
“You’re getting coal, Arius!” *Slap*
I had to look that up, but yeah, Saint Nicholas straight up punched him. Hilarious.
"Bro that's heresy!" Santa Claus said calmly.
*_"Naaaaaughty..."_*
I saw someone comment on a short that said that that was false, and I was just sitting in my chair laughing for 5 minutes straight
Recently started becoming a Christian after being an edgy athiest for much longer than I would like to admit. These videos have been super helpful with helping me understand the faith. Thank you so much!
Welcome home brother. I was also a super edgy atheist
Likewise. I found my way back over years via my amazing wife
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Bro these videos? Come on bro you were doing so good
@@an000n Come on bro you ARE doing so bad
I think it’s important to recognise that even if your mind can’t fully grasp some of these concepts, it doesn’t reflect on your salvation. Blatantly denying them is one thing, but you can be uneducated and illiterate and still be saved by the grace of God without understanding these things fully. Be blessed! 😊
which is a bit of a problem when your core belief is a mystery tho
So if you do your own study and come to the "wrong" conclusion, you're damned?
I mean, if you come to the conclusion that God is multiple gods, then yeah; You're not worshipping God. That's essentially what heresy boils down to. if you are creating a God in a different image than our God, then you aren't actually worshipping God, rather an idol. So yeah. @@magic_honey
@jackboehm8408 But if the biblical texts themselves can confuse genuine readers, how is that fair? Your God isn't very helpful, almost like he doesn't care if we're saved or not.
Suppose I go to a cemetery to pray at a saints grave but someone erroneously points me to the wrong grave and sincerely believing go pray there; will my prayers thus be inefficacious? I think *NOT*
the "erm actually" guy if he got a baptism
Erm actually we don’t know if he got a babtism
@@makishacook8436 erm actually idc
@@bederbederp erm actually you said “the ‘erm actually’ guy if he got a babtism” witch implies you care about him getting a babtism
The amount of comic sans in this video should be a heresy
True, I think it's Times for New Romans.
@@brianhasiholanmangoloipard6059 I have been waiting for a new epistle since the year 100 or so.
@@bladdnun3016 lmaooo
@@brianhasiholanmangoloipard6059Perhaps a time for society to re'Calibri'te their thoughts and decisions? Mayhaps, a time for the pri'Verdana's to go 'Tahoma'? For a better 'Impact' on their 'Futura'?
...I'll see myself out
I think you mean an abomination, not a heresy.
My dad had never explain the trinity when I was a kid, and I wasn’t forced to go to any church or forced to learn the Bible, which made me sort of a uneducated Christian. When I started to get more interested in my faith, I watched CZcams videos like these to expand my knowledge of my own faith and other faiths in comparison. When I finally learned the trinity, my dad almost denounced it as if it was too complicated to understand and too dogmatic, since he grew up in a Catholic household and sometimes goes to Protestant baptists or nondenominational churches. He didn’t even say Jesus was God just the Son of God. I later explained those things to him, as well as predestination and free will to him, and he seemed to understand and was no longer hesitant to admit the Jesus is the one true God, and I’m thankful for the countless videos and knowledge my fellow Christians pursue and make. Even though I am now even more confident in my beliefs as I’ve won multiple debates against my atheist friends, I and still learning about the vast archive that is what we know of God
Good work! My dad believes some heresies and is an anti-Calvinist, but I’m working on him! 😜
Could u explain the trinity then? I still dun really get it despite getting a lot of analogies (which is wrong according to this vid😅)
It's not "too complicated." It's just straight up nonsense.
@@leblackrosethorn3834 The best way I can sum up the Trinity is this long paragraph which does explain some of the heresies as well: Three parts of infinity. Infinity divided by 3, however, infinity can't be divided due to it not being a number but would come out to infinity and so they are all equally infinity. Jesus' human will serves (of own accord) the Father's but is not subordinate, as Christ and the Father have the same divine will and the human will works together with the Father and Holy Spirit and have the same goals due to being of the same essence. The divine essence/soul has three persons equally attached to it and these come from that. They are not separate entities as they share the same divine source/soul. Gnosticism is a heresy as it says humans can connect to the divine like the persons in the Trinity. Rather than the persons of God coming from the essence itself, which humans have no part in. Modalism is heresy because it says that God shows himself as three depending on what is happening rather than three distinct, eternal persons that share the eternal essence. Arianism is a heresy as it denies the divine source of Christ. Nestorianism is a heresy as it divides the two natures of Christ, instead of seeing them as one unit. Imagine a package deal where you can't have one without the other. Theological Liberalism could be seen as a heresy as it tends to deny the deity of Christ, sufficiency of Scripture (debatable if counts as heresy), and denies the full extent of mankind's sin.
Yeah except predestinition is not right
Been a devout Christian my whole life and I still don’t know how to explain the trinity. One triune God. One true God.
Ok so how do you explain these verses if there's One triune God?
Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is One."
John 10:30 "I and My Father are One."
John 14:9b "He who has seen Me has seen the Father."
God does not exist as three because as God's Son Jesus is God, and Jesus' Spirit is the Holy Spirit. All the positions of the Godhead are summed up through Jesus Christ. Trinitarians(80% of the Christian world)commit the partialist heresy by creating two more persons. Jews and Oneness Christians, like myself, know God is One God in One person. Look up the word Trinity in the Bible and you won't find it, but look up verses about Oneness and you will find there are over 200 verses that affirm the Oneness of God
@@clintparker oneness Christians love to take that verse out of context. Let me ask you something, you realize that the word used in the old testament for the Lord being one, is the same word used to describe a union? You heretics don't even realize it. Yall stick to pure english translations since if you read what it actually says, it contradicts you. Y'all barely have scripture to back you up
If it's only one person, how could the holy spirit come down as a dove and the father speak through the clouds, as well as Jesus be baptized at the same time? Explain that then, you're using arguments from silence, the "why is Trinity word not in bibel" like some monkey who can't do 2 and 2, thats like saying the word Bible isn't in the Bible.
@@metroplier8392 everything you've said is 100% heretical. I can only pray for those offended by the Truth that they come to know the Truth: that "the Lord is our God, the Lord is One."
@@metroplier8392 we have more Scripture to back our beliefs, which are not heretical, that Trinitarianism AKA a form of partialism does. Verses that affirm Trinitarianism: 0. Verses that affirm Oneness and deny the Trinity: over 200
I’m just confused at this point
I'm starting to feel like the true heresy here is thinking about Christianity too hard instead of blindly taking what your pastor says at face value 🤷
You can watch again slowly
Jesus was killed for heresy. The heretic they tied to the wood of the stake signifies jesus tied to the wood of the cross.
The extreme pain the heretic suffered signifies the extreme pain Jesus suffered.
The mortification of the flesh of jesus signifies the morification of the flesh of the heretic.
The Pharisees signify the priests. The kings and rulers who oversee the execution signify pontius pilate and the local leaders.
The trial and procession the heretic went through signify the trial and procession Jesus went through.
Jesus said: "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it."
The religion of Christianity is devoted to being a heretic and then being brutally killed for it, thus imitating or mimicking Jesus. That is why it is obsessed with the concept of heresy and is devoted to bashing each other as heretics.
All this is hidden in cryptic demonic ways.
I remember studying Gnosticism in high school. Like you said RZ, the lore is ridiculously complex and confusing to the point that it’s basically just a different religion that uses Christianity as the foundation. In Gnosticism the “God” of the Old Testament is not even God. He’s some demigod or some sort of lesser god. It’s worth studying to understand how pervasive this idea of “spiritual good, physical bad” is and how it has affected modern Christian sects.
Interesting side note: The creators of the Matrix movies are Gnostics. The films are essentially Gnostic allegories. My literature teacher had my class watch the first movie at home and try to pick out where the Gnostic influence/message came into play.
fr its just """christian""" esoterism
I was raised as gnostic and was so most of my life. Terrible dark magic.
Now I better understand why I dislike the Matrix.
@@Makaneek5060 Hey nice to see you here on CZcams as well!
@@therion5458 Have you seen the "Sons of El" textual varient in Deuteronomy 32? What Paul is writing about definitely comes from the OT as he knew it.
Another heresy would be the Horus Heresy but we would need multiple hours to explain it properly.
many books in fact
tomes rather
At first I thought you wrote "we'll need multiple horus to explain it"
And my mind went:
"Well, we are gonna need a new Timmy!"
I'm pleasantly surprised to see Patrick made an appearance in this comments section.
It's funny how well 40k reflects abrahamic religions.
@@aaronmontgomery2055No, because even with warhammer's absurdity and childish jokes, it's still better written than the abrahamic religion. More interesting to.... Blood for the blood god.
Thanks for setting the record straight and refreshingly debunk some misconceptions about Christianity.
bro just contradicted himself 100 times in 8 minutes and you say debunk? lol
@@zaidkiwan5168I'm not very bright.
@@steffen5121 that's not true. The church makes you think you're dumber than to be able to understand god. When the bible says "your god is not the author of confusion"
Modern Christianity is peganism disguised as monotheism
Great Video Zoomer, keep 'em coming!
Patrick! That’s modalism Patrick!
Hahahaha
My first thought!!!
I love how people still remember that video
Lol
Well, we come from a long line of snake farmers, but ta tell ya da truth, business has been real bad lately
He literally referenced this video in the examples he gave, it’s so good
"Wait, I have a good analogy. No you don't shut up" 😂🤣😂 by far the best video explaining the heresies, simple and funny. Well done 👍🏾👏🏾
Not the most Christian behavior. But I do that too much myself, so I'm in no position to judge.
Great let’s glorify dismissing someone before even letting him speak. Wow you guys are definitely the true non heretic Christian, well done. You definitely read Isaiah 13:11 and Proverbs 16 and apply it everyday. Nice.
@@vatt3436 I bet you're fun at parties
@@vatt3436Okay that’s true but he literally said one can’t make analogies between the Holy Trinity and any earthly thing because the trinity isn’t like anything in the world, so any analogy can effectively be dismissed
@@vatt3436 I did think it was a strange addition to the video, especially after his points had been made
Beautifully made, thanks so much for this. It explains everything so well. God bless you very much
Thank you RZ for this video! Your content has really been helping me getting my faith back recently. Keep doing what you are doing! Ignore the haters that have polluted the comments of this video, as they clearly have nothing interesting to say. God bless! ✝
I don't understand this video. If God isn't 3 parts and pelagianism is not true, then how does Jesus' crucifixion make sense? God sent his son, who is also himself, to die for us, even though He can't die, because He's eternal, and was sent to Hell, even though God is existence itself as you said in another video, so if Hell is devoid of God's presence, Hell doesn't exist, to save the righteous who were sent to Hell and also prove in his ressurection that he had gained victory over the powers of Hell, that is, the problems of sin and death, problems God (also Jesus) created in the first place by punishing all of us with original sin due to Adam and Eve's sin that clearly wasn't our fault. What is this?!
Timestamps:
0:15 Liberalism
1:34 Arianism
2:28 Modalism
2:54 Partialism
3:14 Tritheism
4:00 Apollinarianism
4:38 Nestorianism
5:51 Monophysitism
6:17 Adoptionism
6:42 Pelagianism
7:08 Gnosticism
7:57 Subordinationism
8:25 One-sentence heresies
0:00 Calvinism
Thank you!
Ok... There is one God the Father. Jesus is a god but he is not God. Jesus is the only begotten of the Father and the holy spirit is not a god he's a spirit. All three are seperate and distinct individuals but are apart of the Godhead. God, the individual we worship is our father who created us all. Jesus Christ his only begotten son is the mediator of his plan to get us imperfect mortal children back home to father. Through Jesus Christ and his example and sacrifice we are saved and will return home. The holy spirit speaks to us and helps us in are daily lives to navigate this evil world. Im starting to notice that "Christianity" isn't very christian and is completely wrong and full of heresy's of the actual gospel of Jesus Christ. This makes me sad for all the people who are deceived by Satan into not knowing this. 😢
@@ilovecheese3342So you believe in multiple gods?
@@ilovecheese3342Jesus is our Creator and is to be worshipped. Both are clear in scripture.
Calling all Warhammer fans who thought this was about heresy in that sense
lol
The Horus heresy.
i came for the title, but i couldn´t stop thinking about warhammer, heresy its all i heard now
Who is this Jesus guy? Some false idol, gonna need two bolters for this heresy. For the Emperor.
I thought that too until I actually read what it was. Joke is I don't care I'm a lore whore
It's strange that Arians are condemned as terrible heretics, while there isn't a single verse that says that the son existed eternally. But there are lots of verses and concepts that imply that there was a time when the son was not. The most obvious would be that he is called "son of God". God was first, the son came later. It's even stranger that subordinationism is called a heresy because there are lots of verses that clearly teach that Jesus is still subordinate to God after his resurrection and glorification in heaven. And there isn't a single verse that teaches that the son is eternally co-equal with the Father. For that reason every church father of the first three centuries was a subordinationist.
John 8:58 “Truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
@@intimidate45 This verse doesn't pose any threat to Arian theology. Arians believed that Jesus existed before Abraham, but not since eternity past. That's an infinite difference.
You will probably say, that this verse says that Jesus is Yahweh. No, it doesn't. The Greek "ego eimi", I am (he), is not a way of refering to Yahweh. Otherwise the boy in John 9:9 would also claim to be Yahweh. Jesus is claiming to be the light of the world - John 8:12, 9:5. He was that light, the hope of humanity already before Abraham. Already after the Fall in Genesis 3 was the snake-crushing seed prophesied. That was about 2000 years before Abraham.
Jesus testifies in the same chapter that his Father is the God of the Jews = Yahweh (v. 54) and that he is a MAN who testifies of the truth that he has heard from GOD (=Yahweh). He clearly distinguishes himself from Yahweh.
If saying "I am" would be claiming to be Yahweh I would blaspheme God, whenever I said "I am hungry", "I am tired" or "I am a sinner".
The council of Nicaea was called by the Roman state to clarify what Christ was, about 75 years after Arius was born. The Trinity was/is arguably just an instrument of the Empire to solidify its state religion.
All you have to do is show us a single that proves Jesus was created
@@pascalfelleiter7740 John 1:1 alone can disprove the goofy Arius.
Moreover, the "I AM" that Jesus used is way different than using normally like we do. If you read the context in the bible, you will see Pharisees were trying stone Jesus because they had read and understood somewhat of the old testament and knew the reference that Jesus was saying.
I love this channel. It helps me stand stronger in my faith. I thank my math teacher for introducing this channel through the "Arguments of God Explained" video.
@@Mystic879
First of all, I'm not in the United States. I'm in Canada.
Secondly. I go to a Christian school, and the video I was talking about is the "Arguments about God explained" video, not this one.
The “um I got a good analogy” was so funny 🤣🤣🤣
I am Muslim but it's still so fantastic to learn more about the Christian faith. Your videos are funny and nice to watch
Islam ❤️
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Jesus loves you
i love him too ☪️🕋@@freakyjim2131
prayers for you
i haven't truly smiled in a while. i honestly can't remember the last time i did. your videos changed that today. thank you.
After watching this i become kinda glad i'm good old atheist. I believe that if you catch any "devoted" Christians which regularly attend church and start ask them this deep questions about Jesus nature you will have bunch of heretics in no time because almost nobody really give much of thinking to all that details.
You are also a heretic💪
You're not wrong. Most so-called Christians are just using it as an in-group singifier. It explains the current trend for "conversion" to Catholicism with high profile conservatives. Why Catholicism? It's the first church that springs to mind.
@@ThyCorylus Yup, Catholism is heresy. That's why Orthodoxy is the one i'm converting to.
When I was very little, my dad tried explaining the trinity to me, and how it was a complex and infinite subject, but I thought I figured it out and told him I had it solved it, and that god just switched back and forth between the three of them, basically modalism. He was veeerrry quick to explain that thats was NOT it 😂
Nicene creed is a good read it will definitely restore your faith in god.😊
"What if he just moves from place to place, like, REALLY fast, while also changing his name"
@@gunnarneumann8321please capitalize God's name
@@benextraanimates7398 Pleas quite being so legalistic.
As an atheist, I always find it amusing when I'm debating with a liberal Christian, and they end up spouting actual heresy trying to come up with a counter-argument. Like, if you can't even get your own theology right, why should I give you any legitimacy?
One must think that a god with unlimited wisdom and power would be better at getting his story straight if he cares so much
@@IDoThings490 Just so, my friend. Just so.
Humanity is so strange, these non heretic christians think they are right and so does every other denomination and every other religion on earth.
@@IDoThings490 What story from what god do you have? You underestimate mans separation from truth due to a fallen intellect.
@@IDoThings490 What has God got to do with humans intellect?? The Bible says we can't fully comprehend God. If you think you can, then that's not God.
I love your boldness to proclaim the truth of our Lord and Savior. Being wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove(somewhat lol). God bless you brother.
Hey, I really appreciate your content! I've been eating it up recently. Keep up the hard work
I love that I knew some of these without actually knowing some of the official terms 😂 Great video as always!
Im an athiest, but i do believe understanding other religions and practices is important for people to come together and understand one another, so thanks for the education
Unfortunately, 100s of millions of people don't think like that.
I would try to study Christianity even if you are an atheist so your decision can be based on knowledge than lack of knowledge.
@@thereal4815 i actually used to be a Christian
I am an atheist too, and I have a very religious friend who constantly tries to convert me lol
@@thereal4815this is funny considering most religious people are religious because of their lack of knowledge. Knowledge being facts or even reading the Bible. Not intelligence
“I have a good analogy”
“No you don’t shut up” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ironically, Arianism was popular amongst the Germanic tribes after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
You should definitely make an episode addressing islams objections to Christianity (“corrupted scripture”, Jesus doesn’t claim to be God, contradictory ideas, etc.) I feel like it’d be great with your video structure
Also how literally every historian of the first century agrees that the fact that Jesus was crucified is absolutely certain. The Quran insists that He was not crucified
Bruh he doesn't need to the fact that "prophet" Muhammed is an apollinarianism version of Jesus is clear enough evidence that there's no theologically sound reason Islam can be right in any way
What you are looking for is Sam Shamounian, look up his vids on youtube. He explains the mistakes/lies in islam and judaism, dissects their anti christian arguments, explains the errors in translation of greek, hebrew, arabic words used in scripture or quran.
There is also the yt channel called TheArchive, its a place where particular clips from Sams livestreams are stored.
@@michaeltagor4238 receiving revelation from god does not mean you have a divine mind. Muslims don't believe the prophet pbuh had any attributes of god at all.
@@calebklingerman7902 actually in Quranic lore it says that Jesus wasnt crucified but Yudas Iskarot was. It was made to appear that he was Jesus because god whilst literal Jesus was brought to the heavens which im pretty sure hes still alive to this day. (Didnt come to argue but simply stating an interesting perspective from a religion with completely different values)
excited for this one!! lol I’m working on the first Spanish video translation of your channels most popular videos, it’s just gonna take me a while cause I’m a full time student and working part time job
Glad the channel is spreading!
you got perms from RZ?
Man, here in Latin America we need a lot channels like this one, because we got a lot of heretic videos full with Superstition and with no doctrine. This is the kind of CZcams channel that we need here. Thanks to god (sorry for my bad english)
Nice Job I think we need one in India too because most of the mainline churches in India are falling to liberalism.
@ConeComrade I think RZ talked about how he’d support people who translate his videos.
Alt title; Christian explains Christianity to non Christians on CZcams.
I am a Swedenborgian, but I enjoy your channel. A critique of Boehme, Swedenborg, Blake etc could make an interesting video!
Hey RZ, just converted about a year ago and youve made the process so much easier. Thanks!
Hi @xwinghax. Can you tell me your very best good piece of evidence that justifies your convesion?
@@SalemK-ty4ti he owes you nothing
@@Amfortas If you had good evidence you wouldn't be saying "he owes me nothing" Instead you would be giving me on good piece of evidence that he exists. But you don't have any good evidence so you make up an excuse like this.
OH, and he does owe me because a threat without evidence isn't really a threat. His message is quite clear. He sent Jesus to threaten all mankind. Either believe in him, love and obey him and if you don't he will torture you in the most possible way for eternity by throwing you into his torture pit called Hell. So yeah, you do owe me at minimum one good piece of evidence that he exists because god won't. Why would an all powerful, all knowing god who loves me not give me just one good piece of evidence he exists? This should not be a problem for him to do since he supposed to be able to do anything possible. Instead he has to rely on humans to spead his word, just like every other religion - none of these gods provide good evidence they exist. In other words you are just like every other religion with no good evidence for the existence of their god or gods. Same old story, faith, personal testimony(AKA personal experience and ancient books full of contradictions with stories proven by science to be false.
@@SalemK-ty4tifaith.
I get a smile on my face every time I see someone say they converted. God bless you brother, all the days of your life.
If I hear heresy, I connect it with a demi-god ruining fun for humanity in 30th millennia because he went bald
"hes having fun? HERESY!!!!"
The man named Horus Heresy, owner of all 40,000 warhammers
or for warhammer fantasy, heresy is saying that you saw a bipedal ratman using advanced weapons, as as we all know the skaven are but a myth.
Update: the skaven were in fact not a myth and have tried to crash the moon into the planet.
Now let's make a video on the various conceptions about the natures of the four Chaos Gods and about Chaos itself (and the matter of the Horned Rat yes-yes) !
There's a wh40k sfm that parodies the one part of SpongeBob where SpongeBob is having a melt down. Recommend highly for heresy.
As i Catholic I've esperienced many arguments with protestants about Virgin Mary where they told me that she is't mother of God just his "human part" or whatever.
Good to know this heresy has an actual name.
Protestantism is also heresy.
This has to be the best type of explanation in the simplest way possible
It's important to understand the heresies because it's so easy to fall into them.
"It all seems a bit nitpicky."
"If it comes down to one's eternal soul, I'll split as many hairs as it takes."
You can’t make a claim about the trinity without contradicting yourself lol.
The thing that's wild is that the whole "believe I'm God or you'll go to hell" thing is a purely Christian invention. Like... Judaism, the religion from which Christianity came, has no belief in hell nor anything that really compares to hell. In Judaism, everybody goes to heaven - some souls just take longer to get there.
@@bigmike- I thought that gentiles have to abide by the noahide commandments?
I mean you have to first believe you have an eternal soul. Which you can neither prove nor rebute. So really it's a matter of "will this make me happy" and in some cases yes. But I'd say religion as a whole makes people unhappy.
@@starflowers1751 I feel like Christians should also consider “will this make other people happy”which it objectively doesnt
3:48 Humans trying to understand the trinity is like a 2D person trying to make sense of a 3D object, there's a good analogy.
edit: thanks for the likes but please stop arguing with each other in the comments, I'm not a bible expert or a scientist.
Hey, nice.
ye IP used that analogy too
@@sponge6171 what does IP stand for?
@@RobotDude375Likely it would stand for Inspiring Philosophy
@@sponge6171because that is a good analogy, a 2d person knows a 3d world exists and is logical but unfathomable
Hence why the trinity is logical but unfathomable
The writer didn't even try in this video to explain the heresies, hence the 9 minutes and misconceptions throughout from lack of research. Dislike bar showing mass discontent for the low effort.
This video was so well done. Thank you! Liked, favourited, and subscribed. Also, does anyone know what that orchestral piece was when Gnosticism came up? What was beautiful.
As a Muslim I clicked on this to understand what Christians believe but now im more confused.
These are heresies
You are supposed to be confused
@@WARLORDDOM I should have made this more clear but some of the heresies made more sense than the explanation of the trinity any thing you could recomend I watch that goes more in depth.
@@nookzerdaoudidi5869i agree with you
me too... I'm so confused right now.
@@muhamadsayyidabidin3906 Heresies are falsehoods.
Months ago i prayed to God "If there's a faulty in me that i don't know of, please tell me so i can change"
I thought He will tell me from a life experience. I never even thought that He will tell me directly that i believed in 2 heresy these past years through your PPT-like meme video lol.
God bless your soul, m8
Praise GOD!✝️
bro same.
yeah bro it was definitely the manifestation of god and not the youtube algorithm.
@@akoomerthecoomer5536 The youtube algorithm IS God! There i just created a new heresy. Who wants to join?
All religions are false.
Awesome explanation thank God, bless you
Hilarious and educational video, we need more of these, ignore the hate. It always happens.
im an atheist, so i understand if you dont like me, but i always find religion so interesting and love learning about other people's world views. Very cool video
Learning about other worldviews is always a great choice👍
TBH, I think this video is probably making more people irreligious. It only "makes sense" (ie - it completely does not) to people that are already faithful. To those that are wavering in their faith, it show how illogical the most fundamental tenets of Christianity are and might actually push them to abandon what little faith they had had.
So, I guess score one for atheism? If you want actually useful explanations of Christianity that don't attempt to make sense (because it doesn't), check out Ready to Harvest. At least there, there's no attempt to rationalize the irrational. The presenter/content is almost completely Christian and is as about non-biased as could be.
@@nuke___8876"I think this video is making people more irreligious" this is a very subjective view, you can't back this up at all
As a Christian I'd rather be friends with a understanding Atheist than a dogmatic, hateful Christian. Wanting to understand others, imo, is a good way to show love to others and I respect those who do their best to show this kind of love wherever possible.
Honestly, I think I like you on the sole fact you’re not a dogmatic (fill in the blank) with your views. I myself respect and study other peoples views, because I find it fascinating and interesting to learn, even though I am still Christian. I see where you’re coming from
My girlfriend led me to God, but we are in dire need of His help. Please pray for us! 🙏🏻✝️
I thank everyone who is praying for us!
i pray that you will let go of your delusion and believe in yourself instead of relying on an imaginary higher power
@@skipslash7367i pray that you actually stop suppressing the truth like Romans 1 says, and you repent. if you stay in your sin your going to hell. i urge you to repent. i could easily destroy your worldview in a debate but i’m guessing you probably don’t want to debate. i hope you come to Christ.🙏 you need him. your worldview is crushed without him.
@@Veltresworld suppressing the truth? suppressing what truth? that i should give up all my power and faith in myself and give myself up to some imaginary higher power? sorry, no, as i have a good relationship with my father, unlike you
I sense a stupid debate incoming...
@@skipslash7367 and this is why you love sin. John 8:44: "You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires." You need to repent immediately. you don’t believe in God? that’s a truth claim. where do you get truth outside of God??
I love the map that you've made of all the non-heretical churches you've compiled. Is there a link somewhere where we can suggest churches that we attend, and if they aren't heretical you could add them to the map too?
My favorite thing about being a Christian is similar to to my favorite thing about quantum mechanics/unified field theory. The deeper the study goes, the more it makes sense, but the more you realize you still need to learn and will never fully understand this side of eternity.
Have to say: you really get your point across in a short and clear way. You truly are gifted with the comunication skills God gave you.
That little "that's mooodalism pahtrick" tucked away at the top was hilarious! I heard the voice! Thanks for that. Need to go back and rewatch. Great video, by the way, very informative.
Liked and sub'd! Great video! :)
One analogy that I really like for explaining the trinity was C.S Lewis's analogy comparing God to the three plains of existence.
I genuinely like this explanation vid even though Im not a christian. As a buddhist, we do suffer the same problem that ppl interpret the scriptures to suit their beliefs and completely forget about reaching Nirvana
I'm Christian and I've been studying shintoisme for research purposes. Would you say that Buddhism in Japan had been watered down because of shinto? Or has it retained the essentials?
@@workinpromobuddhism has regional variants everywhere and (folk buddhism) and is infused and spliced moreso than watered down.
actual plain buddhism isn't even a typical religion but rather a philosophical exercise.
@@workinpromoShinto and buddhism are two separate religions. That is how far they are. The same as Hinduism and buddhism or Islam and Christianity.
@@dentelle2190 I see, and this is not an issue for the Dalai Lama or any Buddhist authority that the religion has many shapes based on local beliefs? The philosophical exercise you talked about I've heard some defend it but does this include reincarnation and the different planes of existence too or no?
No matter the religion, I've noticed only a very few adhere to the actualy doctrine set forth by the original material. That begs the question then, what one believes is the true doctrine has that then been changed over time and we simply don't know what we don't know.
Can you make a video on cults to watch out for, especially on college campuses? Yesterday I was approached by two ladies asking me if I knew about "God the Mother" who apparently is a South Korean lady that Jesus prophesized about in Revelation? Thankfully I wasn't deceived but I worry someone with less biblical knowledge would have been, especially since their flyer for their Bible study said "Heavenly Family and Earthly Family" which sounds innocent to the average college student, especially if they were raised Christian but don't have solid Biblical or theological knowledge.
Generally just stay away from any cult/sect/denomination that aren't mainstream Christianity. There's reason they aren't mainstream, and it's not anything good.
I think that may be the "Mother God Cult". Mike Winger did a video about them once, I'm pretty sure.
I'd say watch out for any cult. Try following a well-known denomination, ideally a high church one that believes in real presence in the sacraments and that has tradition (ideally Roman Catholic imo)
@@justhair17 yeah, if you want the “true” teachings that the apostles taught then definitely join one of the apostolic churches. Either Eastern Orthodoxy or some rite of Catholicism, would be the ideal.
They're from a group called the World Mission Society Church of God. Strange group that purports to worship a Christ-like woman in South Korea. Check out the Wikipedia page for them it's weird stuff.
Great job keep up the good work 🙂🙌
Now we need this video from the other's perspective. You know, since for them, this version of Christianity is heresy too.
The Biblical Unitarian CZcams channel is an opposing perspective. Although they wouldn’t go as far as Redeemed Zoomer has, nor be as arrogant and angry about it
I love how, when you get passionate about this stuff, you sound like you’re gonna make us an offer we can’t refuse.
Never in my life I ever felt confused enough.
Yeah, this is why the trinity to me is needlessly complicated. Having read 3 versions of the bible the implication I got was simply Jesus was God's son and we worship God through Jesus as he is the vessel of our salvation. Much simpler than all this trinity nonsense.
@@cosmictraveler731 why not worship the God that Jesus worshipped? Jesus didn´t say "pray to me" or pray through me", he said pray to the Father alone. follow religion OF Jesus, not religion ABOUT Jesus.
@@cosmictraveler731we’re not meant to understand it
@@mightymasochisthe said “I and the father are one” dude that means worship Jesus because he’s God and vise versa
@@blacksnapper7684 yet in the following verse Jesus says he and disciples are one just like he is one with the Father. Are disciples gods too? John 17:3 Jesus says the ONLY TRUE GOD is the Father, and Jesus is someone who that Father sent. Jesus says on multiple occasions he is only doing the will of the Father. Jesus also says the geatest commandment is ”Hear O Israel! Your God is One!” Jesus also says Father is greater than he (Jesus). He also says ”I am going back to my Father and your Father, my God and your God”. Does God have a God?
Not ONCE did Jesus say you should worship him, or that he is god. Yet multiple times he says Father is the greatest, Father is the Only True God, worship only the Father and so on. Again: follow religion OF Jesus, not religion ABOUT Jesus. Jesus didn’t preach christianity, and he wasn’t a christian.
the trinity is just like god having 3 instagram accounts
Thank you for the video! I recieve this message in the mighty name of JESUS
I'm literally the guy committing heresies while trying to understand the trinity.
That's alright, we ALL do them at one point or another 😹
@@gerald.bostianlet's be careful with the alls
@@gerald.bostianI can attest to this
Yes, Patrick, stop with the modalism already
You can't understand it because it's nonsense, so you might as well stop trying
so basically anybody who thinks too hard or speaks too much on the trinity, its a heresy?
how convenient
No, if you claim something to be true regarding the Holy Trinity and have no proof to back it up, then it is heresy.
@@AustinThomas31j17 In the name of The Fava,
And of the Bun,
And of The Holy Roast.
- _Ramen_
Sir, this is psychological projection on your part. You are a man who dismisses two thousand years of careful and precise thought on a difficult issue sides with those who yearn for a more simplistic and less thoughtful version, and claims the thoughtful man is thoughtless, and the thoughtless man is thoughtful.
This felt like someone making fun of Christianity more than a Christian LMAO
I thought the same thing, until here --> 8:30.
Because its hilarious how needlessly complicated and downright contradictory it is. Its better to simply say its a dogma of the church and not make sense of it because it will just expose how weak the foundations are.
Thanks for the information. It's good to be informed.
Honestly zoomer, thanks. You helped me actually dive into christianity after just being fed unnecessary fluff by my parents.
I would note that he is a Calvinist. So there is a bias of his own within the theology he follows. I’d take his explanations with a grain of salt.
His explanation of Pelagianism is a term Calvinists throw on non-Calvinists to metaphorically beat them into submission to Calvinism. I’d suggest reading more on what Pelagius _actually_ taught before using this video as a template for your dive into Christianity.
@klaustheViking is right, this video is excellent, but its explanation of Pelagianism is where it falls short. We aren't born guilty of Adam's sin, or God would judge us for Adam's sin on Judgement day, and we know God judges us for our own sin, not the sin of others. We aren't born sinful (as in guilty of sin). We are born with a fallen nature that is fatally inclined to sin (will sin given the opportunity.) This is why babies don't go to hell if they die, they aren't held responsible for sins they didn't commit. Also there is the age of acountability, but that requires some more biblical research/explanation than I can give in a CZcams comment. Like I said though, great video apart from the Pelagianism explanation.
Sounds like you went from unnecessary fluff to unnecessary nitpicking.
But babies do sin. Our fallen nature leads all of us to sin constantly in everything we do. Their sins are miniscule and trivial in comparison to what we do, of course, but if you believe that they have souls then you must believe that they have the guilt of sin, the same as we all do.
So what happens to them? The answer is that nobody knows. My belief is that everyone who has not accepted Christ due to ignorance or incapacity is, at the moment of death, given a full and perfect knowledge of the Truth, and is given one final opportunity to believe in Jesus then.
@@ElijahDawkins-yb1uc Can you justify (Biblically) your belief on what happens to infants when they die?
*Is confused on a confusing subject*
“THATS HERESY!”
Yeah, this is why the trinity to me is needlessly complicated. Having read 3 versions of the bible the implication I got was simply Jesus was God's son and we worship God through Jesus as he is the vessel of our salvation. Much simpler than all this trinity nonsense.
@@cosmictraveler731amen to that brother. If God wanted us to believe Jesus was somehow also God... I would think he would explicitly say so. Rather we get Jesus saying things like "The Father dwells in me and I dwell within the Father" and "The Father tells me what to say, and I say it" and "My will is the will of the Father"
well the thing is, heresy isn't necessarily sinful. there's a huge difference between misunderstanding the trinity vs, just making up an example here, saying that God is infinitely evil. the former is a heresy, and the latter is also a heresy, but more importantly, it's extremely blasphemous.
@@cosmictraveler731 The Trinity is not complicated at all. I'll explain it in two sentences. There is one God: Jesus (the Son) is God, the Father is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And none of them are each other. Done. With a little faith in a transcendent being beyond total human comprehension, this doctrine is easy (and fun!) to accept.
@@beamshooter John 10:30-33 John 17:21-22 John 1:1-5 John 5:18 John 8:58 Actually maybe just read the whole Gospel of John again. Jesus explicitly claims to be God multiple times.
Orthodox here. Love your videos. God Bless You.
On the topic of gnosticism, if the physical world requires redemption, why does Jesus need to redeem that which is inherently good? If it is inherently good because it was created by God, why then do we see ourselves as sinners and not as the embodiment of the divinity that created us? And finally, how is it possible that one of God's creations is infallible and another is so easily corrupted?
02:29 This part feels like a fandom's confused attempt at trying to mend the plot hole the original author left.
All of these basically are the fandom being confused about what the author ment.
Not really considering the bible forces you to be a trinitarian.
For every heretic theres a verse contradicting their view.
@@therealmaskriz5716 Sure, but there's a plethora of scriptures that contradict the trinity as its advertised. "Aryanism", as we like to call it today, is well known to have been the defacto belief until somewhere in the ball park of 150ad to 200ad, long after the apostles died. It is well understood that NONE of the figures in the bible taught or believed in the trinity, and the trinity as understood today is a "sacred secret" which the biblically scholars discovered later on. Whether you choose to believe the trinity as advertised is up to you, but no there is no reason that considering the bible forces you to be a trinitarian as there are many Christian beliefs that don't. The term "Christian" was coined in the first century to denote a follower of Christ, not someone who believed he was God. You can carry the name Christian simply by following his ways, you do not have to believe he was God and that he requires worship.
@RezDisciple "Go baptise in the name of the father, the son, and the Holy spirit"
@@therealmaskriz5716bible ain't forced me to do shit.
Very nice vid! Started watching your vids recently and I really like the topics you talk about.
I didn't know that explaining the trinity in terms of analogies was a heresy! It's done by a lot of Sunday school teachers here in our coptic churches, will be sure to spread the word, thank you.
It's not a heresy to use analogies, but it's more like a mistake of argumentation. The reason is because God is bigger than our universe, so all attempts to explain Him by referencing the universe will produce inaccuracies if you look too closely. This video explains some cases of how analogies actually create heresy when taken too literally: czcams.com/video/KQLfgaUoQCw/video.html
I recently saw a post talking about Christianity and how “if your religion says that you are so irrdeemably bad that the literal God of the universe had to send his son down to die to fix it, your worldview is incredibly messed up”. This video made me realize two things. One: this take COMPLETELY ignores the love behind this action. God didn’t HAVE to do that. He could have left us alone and let us all be slaves to sin. But he didn’t. Jesus came down, *willingly*, to save us from ourselves. Two: This take ignores that Jesus and God are not entirely separate beings. John Chapter 1 and John 10:30 come to mind as they emphasize that God the Son and God the Father are one and the same. God didn’t cruelly send some “other” person to pay the price for our sin. He Himself came down to pay that price.
The offshoots of offshoots of Catholicism explaining why certain religion commit heresy is 100/10
Been a catholic revert for about 3 years. This video is super informative, good work!
Then you should know that the Church has also considered Protestantism a heresy as well. Of course, it wouldn't be mentioned here.
@@vSwampFox ...for good reason.
@@vSwampFox the trinity is satanic!
@@vSwampFox Which heresy does the Protestant church commit? If it's something created by the Catholic church, does it have a scriptural basis? Legitimate questions - not trying to pry or be sarcastic. No church or denomination has the power to denounce something unless it is directly in contradiction with a scriptural commandment or obvious truth. Anything else is man-centered. The reason for sola scriptura is that, if you are starting at any other point than directly God's words which came from Him, it is going to be inherently flawed. 1 Cor 4:6 is a good text for this.
@@N1c2k3 Well it's probably important for you to figure out first, why you have the premise in your mind to say these phrases. I'm surely not one to be able to spend all kinds of time debating on the internet, but being as you asked, here's what I'd consider if I were in your position, asking the questions you are asking.
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"No church or denomination has the power to denounce something unless it is directly in contradiction with a scriptural commandment or obvious truth".
"Anything else is man-centered."
" The reason for sola scriptura is that, if you are starting at any other point than directly God's words which came from Him, it is going to be inherently flawed." /end Quote
That alone is quite the list of things already preconceived in your mind. Especially considering, scripture contradicts what you're saying.
-God gave the Apostles the authority to bind and loose. What did they Bind & Loose? A lot of things. Both before Christ's death, and after. Not all of which are written in what you call the Bible.
-"Obvious Truth", is a completely subjective statement.
-There is no holy scripture, instructing the apostles, nor the disciples, to collect, and decipher books being written by themselves, and then declare which of these hundreds of books are or are not worthy for divine teaching. The only scripture that even attempts to covers such a task, is the authority given to them, by Jesus, to Bind & Loose.
-Sola Scriptura is a man made belief philosophy taught by very late Christian sects. Ancient Christendom, never mentions this ideology. Ever. Plus, Paul himself contradicts this belief system, when he instructs his listeners of the things they are to do, that are not written, but are heard and passed down through tradition. Not to mention, there was no bible during the time of their teaching and preaching.
Hope this helps you on your journey. I'm certain it's plenty food for thought.
PS- If you are really interested in deep history, regarding Christianity, NewAdvent \.org is an incredible resource for historical writings.
Cheers
Being a Sikh person this is one of my favourite channels about abrahamic religions since it helps me expand my knowledge about other forms of worships and also understand things in more perspective. (Also helps that I can nerd out infront of my friends at times, i know not a very good hobby)
Edit: guys stop fighting. It's fine if something is far right or far left, we should focus more on what's the current content of the video, and the comment (in this case my comment) more.
Do keep in mind that this channel is from a far-right perspective and based on the posters opinions, rather than the scholarship.
@@BurnBird1 i understand, and honestly at the end of the day I am just here to learn about stuff, religious politics is a very messy and complex issue which a smart person should avoid unless necessary. So there's that.
@@rishabhsingh357 That's fine, I just wanted to make sure that you kept that in mind. If you are interested in some more scholarly sources, I would heavily recommend "Religion for Breakfast" and "Let's Talk Religion" They do cover much more than just Christianity, but they have some excellent videos on early and different branches of Christianity.
@@BurnBird1 hmm thanks for information, I'll see if they suit me.
@@BurnBird1boo hoo
I was a conservative Christian for several decades, during which I quite advanced in secular studies. On the other hand, I had questions I believed theologians would answer... After not getting satisfactory responses, I decided to venture into theological studies. You were right on warning about the following: if one concludes, like Arius did, that Jesus came From God and had a Beginning (since being before the Earth was founded does not equal being Eternal); and then one realizes, as Nestoius did, that a Woman (a created being) cannot be the Mother of God Almighty; that Jesus teachings were: "To achieve Salvation, you have to keep the LAW better than the Pharisee" and "when I come again, I will judge you by your WORKS (because you did it to one of my littlest...)"; that it is Paul who later on said: "If you are a Gentile, keeping the Law is Optional, You are Saved by Faith in the Sacrifice of Jesus" and "Christianity doesn't make sense if you don't believe that FAITH the resurrected Jesus is what saves you"........Then, You Are most Right: the Whole Building Crumbles down!!!
This is very helpful. Thank you.
I consider myself agnostic but I really love this channel because I feel like it clears up a lot of questions I had growing up Christian
Dude, according to this Video I am a Heretic on about 4 Levels because I try and follow what the bible says and not what I was taught growing up. I had loads of questions too, because what I was taught growing up never fully meshed with the Scriptures. There is another channel you may like that helped me figure it all out. It is called Kingdom in Context. He has also been called a heretic, but I don't think that matters. We are all trying to seek the truth. You can call me a Mary Poppins for all I care, as long as I am seeking and following truth. Good luck on your Journey my brother, may you find and build a relationship with the God that you already know exists.
With due respect, that’s a terrible thing to say. We should want to get Jesus right lest we end up like the Muslims Mormons or jehova’s witnesses! We as a flock must not go astray
Really? I'm more confused now than ever.
With all due respect, that's a terrible thing to say. We should try to respect other people's beliefs even if they don't align with our religion! This way we won't create unnecessary religious conflict ;)@@toastydoge9934
@@toastydoge9934 Should we not all have a personal relationship with God, as two brothers would have differently with their father?
Your content is incredible! Thank you for sharing!
Set up a lot of strawman arguments but didn't do justice to most of them.
Big problem here is the lack of scripture to show that these are heresies
Those points are considered SO crucial yet in the entire Bible there's still not enough scripture about it? What was God's plan on this? Teach Jews about the ritual of induced miscarriage but not teach Christians about the exact nuances of the Trinity?
@@thebiggestcauldron Even the parts the Bible is clear on lots of Christians still ignore. Redeemed Zoomer is constantly preaching works salvation on twitter, even though the Bible is clear we're saved by faith alone
@@RexMattos This is a topic that is commonly brought up. The first point I'd like to make is the agreement that the Bible is God's word and contains no contradictions within it as it was inspired by God himself. This is supported in 2 Timothy 3:16 "All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right."
1 Thessalonians 2:13 "Therefore, we never stop thanking God that when you received his message from us, you didn’t think of our words as mere human ideas. You accepted what we said as the very word of God-which, of course, it is. And this word continues to work in you who believe."
I will now show you some scripture written by Paul.
Romans 3:27-4:5 "Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. 28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.
29 After all, is God the God of the Jews only? Isn’t he also the God of the Gentiles? Of course he is. 30 There is only one God, and he makes people right with himself only by faith, whether they are Jews or Gentiles.31 Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law.
The Faith of Abraham
4 Abraham was, humanly speaking, the founder of our Jewish nation. What did he discover about being made right with God? 2 If his good deeds had made him acceptable to God, he would have had something to boast about. But that was not God’s way. 3 For the Scriptures tell us, “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.”
4 When people work, their wages are not a gift, but something they have earned. 5 But people are counted as righteous, not because of their work, but because of their faith in God who forgives sinners."
I will now show you some scripture written by James.
James 2:14-26 "What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions? Can that kind of faith save anyone? 15 Suppose you see a brother or sister who has no food or clothing, 16 and you say, “Good-bye and have a good day; stay warm and eat well”-but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?
17 So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless.
18 Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” But I say, “How can you show me your faith if you don’t have good deeds? I will show you my faith by my good deeds.”
19 You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. 20 How foolish! Can’t you see that faith without good deeds is useless?
21 Don’t you remember that our ancestor Abraham was shown to be right with God by his actions when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see, his faith and his actions worked together. His actions made his faith complete. 23 And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” He was even called the friend of God. 24 So you see, we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone.
25 Rahab the prostitute is another example. She was shown to be right with God by her actions when she hid those messengers and sent them safely away by a different road. 26 Just as the body is dead without breath, so also faith is dead without good works.
When we read both the scriptures from James and Paul it looks like a contradiction but 2 Timothy 3:16 and 1 Thessalonians 2:13 says that this can't be the case as the word is directly inspired by God and God makes no contradictions. So the logical answer is that both James and Paul are talking about the same thing and their teachings are compatible with one another. In this instance you can see that James is not saying that you do acts to gain salvation but that the holy spirit when you have faith compels you to do acts or works in Gods glory. The acts are an outward expression from your faith not the other way around. The reason why James wrote this is because people were slandering Paul and taking his teachings out of context saying things like "Well, if we are justified while we are ungodly by faith alone, and this magnifies the grace of God, then let's just keep sinning, because we are secure anyway and God's grace will get more glory."
This should hopefully clear things up for those who blasphemed Jesus by saying that his sacrifice wasn't enough for our sins and that we must go through extra steps in order to gain salvation. I can quote many many more verses and scripture supporting this however this comment is already exhausted and long enough so I will wait to see what reply's I get before I go overboard and lose people with a sea of words.
@@RexMattos People are just lazy, selfish assholes, and want to subconsciously convince themselves that they're going to have a good end, without having to actually put in any effort or consideration for others.
Based on the info on Liberalism that can also fit those who fly the American flag around their churches and preach more about Republican politics than about Christ and theology. Interesting! Great post!!! ❤
Absolutely. Republicans and democrats are basically identical on a spiritual level, politics is depraved. Unless your politics are promoting the Social Kingship of Christ, they belong outside of God's house.
“Before Him all the nations are as nought, as nothing and void He counts them” Isaiah 40:17, that includes the United States. Idolatry and blasphemy is all that’s behind the hood of nationalism
Copium
So you want a Christian flag instead? Then don't build a church in America
Yes that is valid. Tying nationality to religion corrupts both. One must live in the world, but to worship a government of man is not the intent of the gospel ministry. Divorcing the endeavor from the dictates of man's governments is one of the things that brought forth the executions and suffering.
This is not to say that your relationship with God is to be completely ignored when functioning in community, commerce or governance. The enlightened morality can impose heavy consideration on your choices at voting....but you can't vote your way to salvation. C S Lewis often said, my nation is not my church....which is ironic of an Anglican to say when the national elected government appoints the Archbishop and places them in the PMs Cabinet.
I LEFT the Protestant Heresy in 1987 when I became Catholic.
Welcome my Fren.
God bless you ❤
God has a dark nature to balance the empathetic good side of his essence.
I enjoyed this and learned a lot thank you. You have a great way of explaining complicated concepts in an easy to follow way.
You forgot to mention Protestantism!!! 😏
/s, I’m a Catholic, I love watching your channel, and I speak for most Catholics in saying this, you’re definitely making a positive influence!
As a Baptist, this comment is underliked
I guess but after the second vatican council where technically still part of the catholic church if we dont believe in the other stuff and are baptised so I guess it isnt but still is. I dont know but if I was going to switch it would probably be orthodox. Still love all Christians who hold core doctrine.
that's cute 😂
As a Lutheran, all I need to say is that "Is" means IS. Amen.
@@candycane618 He says that is does not mean is, what lunacy? I say is means is as long as the definition of is is not is.
I love ur icons every theologies explained
Ok so does God have a single ? Or is it one will by person?
I see easily the heresy for all that but I struggle with modalism. What's the middle between modalism and tritheism?
Let me try my own answer after réflexion.
From far it looks like one single God (1substance) ; but when you look a little Closer at how it works how He is, you distinguish three distinct persons through the relation they have with each other. And I would summarize like so: Trinity is God who loves God without loving Himself
@@raphou1280 I like your honest question here. It is one will per person, it is definition of personhood to have a will, not a generic nature. Your attempt to define the persons is cute, but remember that each person also loves himself as well, as that is not wrong to do. Many Christians get confused about the individuality of persons, and start to call it "tritheism," and they are just mistaken.
@@Dizerner Oh I thought that 1 nature=1 will
@@raphou1280 Yes, some people say this, but we know that generic "nature" is not a personal identity.
Hey, I love watching your videos, I learn a lot from them. You should definitely make one about Jehovah's witnesses if it's not already the case, maybe I missed it. Thank your your hard work, God Bless ❤
Love this! Keep up the good work brother!
Another issue with Pelagianism is it basically denies that god is all knowing
YOU DO NOT HAVE FREE WILL
Can you take your cat make them invincible and chuck them out the window, then stop them exactly 100 atoms above the ground? No, you can't. That's not possible, god knows you will sin, god knows everything, and you can't not sin.
Question: My pastor at my church is a woman, I know biblically that's wrong so I always thought that's her sacraments like baptizing people was void and invalid is that Donatism😢