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Raised from birth as a man, Oscar commands the palace guards at Versailles during the years leading up to the French Revolution. Her beauty and noble spirit make her a shining figure in the eyes of both men and women, but she is torn between her own heart and desires
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Andre's about to break out the popcorn.
I can easily imagine erika linder playing oscar in a movie adaptation.
Wait Manga, why are you putting up clips of this show you are never gonna release in the UK? What a tease.
I am not the only one to misunderstand the title.
Just imagine if Dilandau from Escaflowne was the heroic protagonist of an anime... and you have Lady Oscar!
Hello… Oscar… Greatest of Soldier Ladies…!
French people speaking Japanese....... this will take some getting used to.
Tbf, Beauty and the Beast is from France but Belle in Disney talks in English despite being French so I don't see why Rose of Versailes characters can't talk in Japanese. This is originally a manga made by a Japanese author so it's only natural that the characters of this anime talk in Japanese
@@erenyeagerist7681 the story is set in France so they talk in french and even say some tipical french fraces in the Spanish dub version.
The story is set in France so of course they talk french. 😂
i thought there was something going on with the thumbnail. now i know some just when back in the past and ripped this right off a VHS tape
i love how you can sense a slight french accent in the japanese 😫
Back when anime girls weren't all moe moe weaklings...
There are some badass women and girls in anime today , like juliet in the anime romeo x juliet, who, just like Oscar dresses as a guy, to go out on adventures.
@@nataliapanfichi9933 Romeo x Juliet is considered retro. When we speak of anime "today," we mean 2010's and 2020's because these are the eras flooded with MOE shit
Mikasa Ackerman, Yor forget, Power from chainsaw man
Anime nowadays is infested with strong female characters wdym
Where can I rewatch this?
Retro crush has it for free!
Where did the show go?
Sneasel It was sadly deleted due of copyright
wait, that's actually a girl!?
thats was the whole story i think. a girl making others belive he is a boy or something.
@@MeelisMatt no no they all already know she's a girl
The story's about her father raising her like a boy so that she can replace him when he dies and become a royal guard, also this is set in the historical setting of French revolution and Oscar's the royal guard of queen Marie Antoinette it's a really good anime
@@piyoyosky8158 It's my all time favorite anime!
@@lovyazid mine too ^ ^
@@lovyazid mine too♥️
Damn!
Those women didn’t get Lady Oscar was aslo a GIRL?!?! Thunder and barnacles!
no, they got it. its called a lesbian series for a reason
They know...
They look similar to utena
HOT
Peccato. Che. L'educazione. Si. Sia. estinta. tra. La. GIOVENTÙ. ODIERNA!!!
Who else thinks girls back then are better than girls nowdays
It's a cartoon...
@@lr2683 anime
@@erenyeagerist7681 literally same thing
who else thinks romanticizing the past is dumb? and comparing women? absolutely stupid.
Why are they all gay for Lady Oscar??? Like, I'm all for representation, but I think it's a bit unrealistic for every single woman in the ball room to get jealous over her walking in with another woman. Not that I'm complaining, though. It's hilarious and I'm absolutely living for it.
Well actually they're probably not sexually gay for Oscar. Rose of Versailles is a hallmark work in Japanese girl's culture (shojo bunka), which prizes sisterhood and same-sex love in form of intense admiration and passionate friendships. And the love that is often portrayed is characterized as sexless but nevertheless intense and even mutually destructive, call it a purely romantice love if you will. This love, although does not involve sex, is very emotional and kind of idealized? Which is why jealousy is a prominent theme, and so is pining, and sometimes love suicide.
@@masodemic4509 Okay, I've read some of The Rose of Versailles, and this is what I got: The girls are super straight for Oscar because they're under the impression that she's a guy. She gets that a lot, actually.
The girl that Oscar is with in the video, however, is suuuuuuuuuuuper gay for Oscar. When Oscar finds out she says that she's sorry that she can't be with her, and if she were a man, she would marry her. Andre even comforts her by saying that he has unrequited love for Oscar as well.
I'm pretty sure Lady Oscar is straight from her rejection of Rosalie, her apparent crush on Fersen, and her outrage at having been accused of being a lesbian and the Queen's secret lover.
I can't find anything on "shoujo bunka", but from your description of it, it sounds like people assuming lesbian relationships are purely platonic because it's more socially accepted for girls to be affectionate with their friends.
Example: www.reddit.com/r/SapphoAndHerFriend/
@@hedgelord0 I understand if you haven’t been able to find anything on shoujo bunka. I think if you search on Google Scholars you will find several articles and books and papers at least about it.
About the erasure of lesbianism, I can see your concern and this is definitely an issue in societies that have frowned upon lesbianism and homosexuality in general. However, although modern Japan did attempt to Westernize by a lot, there are things in which they deviated, to be expected. One of which is actually same-sex love. During the interwar period, there were debates about female same-sex love and although opinions were divided, a lot of the influential ones were “meh it’s normal isn’t it?” especially during adolescence. Even for intellectuals who believed the relationship could be sexual, they argued that it was likely a way to express budding sexuality for girls in a segregated educational environment.
So this homosocial environment became the geographical location of shoujo culture, or at least the beginning of it. And in shoujo world there’s no marriage, no men, no children or pressure to bear children. It became a resistance, a refuge, and a space for rebellion against heterosexual patriarchy. But on a micro level, shoujo world is also the place where a girl discovers her own identity along with other girls. And this is thanks to Yoshiya Nobuko, who wrote several works on her lesbian experience along with loads of works about the S relationship, which are typically not sexual (keyword being “typically”) but nevertheless extremely romantic, advocating for female same-sex love. What this means is that both for those who are sexually attracted to other girls and those who are not, the S relationship is welcoming and aspiring to all girls to discover themselves and run away from patriarchal expectations.
Now after the war, in part thanks to the American Occupation, in another thanks to importation of Western discourses on lesbianism, same-sex love kinda had a bad rep so shoujo manga started out more platonic. But even so intense affection and possessiveness and jealousy were portrayed in female same-sex love. Then came the 70s where shoujo manga took the flag and started a revolution. Homosociality and homosexuality returned in manga form.
The same-sex relationships depicted in these manga are not for the cause of representation, they were fantasies of equality and desire for gender fluidity. Oscar is attractive to other women because she is fluid, too pretty for a man too handsome for a woman, and they both want to be her and want to be close to her, which is very characteristic of S relationships if you ever read Yoshiya Nobuko. They’re also depicted as highly spiritual and emotional, because they are expressions of love between equal people. Like in Heart of Thomas where same-sex love between boys help each of them overcome their personal issues. And in Rose of Versailles where Rosalie’s love for Oscar aspires her to become tougher than she has been. Even sex in homosexual relationship is portrayed as spiritual. Towards the end of Rose of Versailles when Oscar and Andre have sex, their bodies are obstructed and as both of them are gender fluid it can resemble either gay or lesbian sex. The scene itself is extremely emotional with shaded background, broken up panels, shots of their faces and expressions (instead of genitals), lots of kisses and embrace, demonstrating that this is spiritual sex born from the love between two gender fluid equal people.
So, to sum things up, S relationship is welcoming to all girls in the world of shoujo, whether it becomes sexual or not, it doesn’t matter, it’s beautiful and it’s romantic, and most importantly it’s a way to discover oneself with other girls; secondly, the portrayal of homosexuality in manga of the 70s were not for the sake of representation, they were fantasies of equality and gender fluidity.
Shoujo culture is actually a deep mark of resistance and it’s an extremely interesting academic topic. But it’s also very murky and complex and it’s dismissive to view it outside of its historical context. I do not advocate for erasure of lesbianism. I am merely stating that shoujo culture accepts both sexual and non-sexual love between girls as romantic. So don’t be hasty in assuming everyone is gay for Oscar, some of them likely thirst for equality and gender fluidity.
P/S: romantic love does not automatically mean and/or lead to sex in the world of shoujo but you probably realized that.
Sources:
Anan, Nobuko. “The Rose of Versailles: Women and Revolution in Girls’ Manga and the Socialist Movement in Japan.” The Journal of Popular Culture, vol. 47, no. 1, 2014. doi.org/10.1111/jpcu.12107.
Suzuki, Michiko. “Part I - Girls and Virgins: Same-sex Love.” Becoming Modern Women: Love and Female Identity in Prewar Japanese Literature and Culture, Stanford University Press, 2010.
Suzuki, Michiko. “Writing Same-Sex Love: Sexology and Literary Representation in Yoshiya Nobuko's Early Fiction.” The Journal of Asian Studies, vol. 65, no. 3, 2006. www.jstor.com/stable/25076082.
Dollase, Hiromi Tsuchiya. “Yoshiya Nobuko's “Yaneura no nishojo”: In Search of Literary Possibilities in “Shōjo” Narratives.” U.S.-Japan Women's Journal. English Supplement, no. 20/21, 2001. www.jstor.com/stable/42772176.
Shamoon, Deborah. "The Revolution in 1970s Shōjo Manga." Passionate Friendship: The Aesthetics of Girls’ Culture in Japan, University of Hawai’i Press, 2012.
@@masodemic4509 Well said. 🤧🥺💕
@@masodemic4509 Im sorry I cant help but to applause you for your comment. Not the slightest bit of expectation would pass through my thought that I would ever run into a profound synopsis of Shoujo Bunko under some comment in a 6 years old video. Bravo to you.