It’s not really bad. It just wasn’t made to be a summer movie like it was mismarketed to be. It was a character study about someone’s dark side...like it was advertised.
@@agentofchaos7456 nahhh, almost everything is bad in the writing The psychological drama is exactly what I was looking for (literally just watched it hours ago). But the point about psychological drama, is that the detail of the psychological aspect have to be correct. Which are not at all (or at least clear at all) in this movie: -. Hank, the guy who in his whole life has almost always by Charles side (even during DOFP), suddenly went against him without any discussion like 'Charles, you should apologize', up until he suddenly break down because of Raven. They should have had time to talk about each other behaviours beforehand. -. Hank, again, from someone who is almost always supportful on the idea of peace and not hurting others. Suddenly wants to KILL one of his own (former) colleague and student for revenge. Very out of character... -. Charles, was suddenly being a forceful godfather who just wants Jean to go back home no matter what. Does not realizing that that is just gonna make the person, especially during ptsd and after he has lied to her, becomes much more instable... -. Magneto, just talked about going through his past and talk about how to move on from that, letting go of what people did to his friends and family. And suddenly went through the same 'path' again, even though indeed Raven is his close friend. -. The aliens.... have the lamest motivation.... Their race was wiped out by that thing, and now she wants to harness it just like that. Very typical villain.... In the end, this psychological drama becomes much like a teenage girly drama (with action and bad, but forgettable, villain) for me and is more like a Disney Channel movie instead of the one I am looking for from X-Men.
@@stanleymaximillian8403 Jean wasn't really acting like a teenage girl but a schizophrenic(according to the cast and filmmakers). That is the psychological aspect of the movie I'm referring to. Google "Dark Phoenix is an Eye-Opening Lesson in What PTSD is Like For Women, and Why That Matters". Schizophrenia and PTSD share many symptoms.
Ohhh boy you really think this is the end 😂😂😂 the end of the x-men series yhea probably but also the beginning of the marvel & x-men, you think Disney buyed fox for nothing? I personally want so much a crossout between this 2 series (and fantastic 4)
He also said the same thing about the heroes fighting each other and a major character death. It sounds like he was trying to actively dislike the movie.
Producers: man we made one of the best superhero movies ever and finally gave people the kinda of movie they been wanting and now we are going to be remembered positively. Fox: nope we can have that make the shortest xmen movie so people remember we shit.
ablurt_55 They can still end there for us. All we have to do is pretend everything after that never happened. The same way everybody forgets they made a Lion King sequel. Oh shit 🤦🏿♂️
MattheJ1 Logan, good as it was, still had quite a few problems endemic to the X-Men movies. People forget about Monsanto killing the mutants and all the kids with recognizable names, but no relation to the characters they nominally are
Yeah definitely seeming like it's a better move to just forget Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix ever happened, and just treat DoFP as the true ending of the series, with Logan as the final epilogue.
I'm not much of a film critic, so there are really only two things I care about when I watch a movie: the plot and the visuals. Logan had a masterful plot and masterful visuals, and that's all that matters to me.
@@tperfect7241 But to answer your question, that was a semi-serious question. The Dark Phoenix Saga is about showing Jean's slow descend into madness. But people seems to think it is about the X-Men fighting Jean or that Jean is the main villain of the story. A lot of misinformed opinions in both the video and the replies.
People like you piss me off. You act like x men 1, 2, first class, days do future past, deadpool, and Logan werent good. I love the mcu, but quit acting like rhe x men have beennin bad hands.
I’m really gonna miss McAvoy and Fassbender as Professor X and Magneto. Those two absolutely *NAILED* their roles. Props to them. Can’t wait to see what the MCU does for the X - Men.
Yeah both of them were great especially Michael. I didnt care about x men UNTIL I saw first class and fell in love with his portrayal as magneto and understood why he is ranked either the best or second best marvel villains
You can find the lack of motivation in the development of this movie just by looking at every character, their low costume design, and how fast the storyline goes. It was like watching a group project of rookie actors dressed in Forever 21 and Pull & Bear just trying to get their final project done lol At least the effects were good, I guess 🤷♂️
Not true. This movie was a originally a two parter until the studio condensed it into one at the last minute and than cut around a half a hour of scenes. Also, the X-suits were suppose to bad, the characters in the movie even say they were bad and they only wear it for two scenes.
I knew it would be bad ... but It kinda surprised me when you said "worse than the last stand" and then you ended with WORSE THAN WOLVERINE ORIGINS??? Mann way to murder a movie ....
Last Stand has some good stuff in it, just the pacing is wack because there's two movies shoved together. I find it hard to believe Dark Phoenix is worse than Wolverine: Origins. It kind of makes me morbidly curious to see this, but it sounds like it's "boring bad" as opposed to "funny bad".
But is it worse than The Wolverine? Which is a separate movie where he goes to Japan. Since it wasn't mention in the video, I'm a little worried I may have just hallucinated that one.
Actually I knew it was going to be bad too. To be fair I liked X man the last stand but for it to be worse than X-Men origins and X man apocalypse(mostly because they turned mystique into the catch fire girl literally copy and paste job. Everyone admires her like in catching fire and she is the main character because she is Jennifer Lawrence not because she is mystique.) If it's worse than those 2 this might be the worst comic move of all time
Alex Havener Wolverine goes to Japan is the movie people forget about all the time, it's certainly better than Origin. People meme it all the time with the case of the yellow suit but forgot it's from Wolverine Japan.
When the random army guy dies and nightcrawler develops a strong emotional bond to him for no reason and then gets angry for like half a minute then starts killing people. The cringe.
@@agentofchaos7456 I have seen the cartoon and read the Dark Phoneix saga comics - this is based on an extremely, extremely loose interpretation of the comics.
Movie was so much garbage,everybody had their powers on lite for most of it,being a Magneto fan was hugely disappointed,serious cyclops was standing on a car,we've seen him lift a sub,a stadium,also we've seen him get rid of someone who had no metal on them yet in this movie he's......ugh Also he KNOWS Jean can control things yet walks right In head on to kill her,the helicopter chess match between the two was also cringe worthy to watch,Magneto floating over to Jean also looked terrible The action scenes looked uninspired,there was nothing epic for Magneto to do and no epic quick silver scene,the original dark phoenix looked scary and powerful Sansa did not,Charles is also very powerful but is so weak in this movie....movie is just trash
When it comes to the pprequel/alternate time lime movies, I liked how you could see the beginnings of the great man Charles would be, and the flaws he had still yet to overcome. The only problem is, after days of future past, they pretty much gave up on the "great man he will become" and instead focused far too heavily on his flaws. He doesn't make any progressions on improving mutant rights on screen, and therefore will never become the man he was in X men 3 who Magneto said had done more for mutants that pyro would ever know. He just remains a deeply flawed and kind of useless idealist.
I honestly felt really bad for Simon Kinberg, who wrote and directed the movie. Not only was this his directorial debut but he was given another chance to do the Dark Phoenix storyline and he even planned to make a trilogy around it. But due to the Disney buyout, Fox grew impatient, stepped in and messed the film up even worse than the first time.
It was planned to be a two movies but Fox made it into one in late production. Disney had no hand in it. I wouldn’t say they messed it up even more. This movie actually had a clear vision.
Naughty Avatar I know. What I meant by “the first time” was actually The Last Stand which I had finally watched recently. And WOOOWWWWW, its really bad. So yeah already, this movie is better than The Last Stand. And I also think Fox grew impatient due to Avengers Endgame and I also read somewhere that they reshot the third act due to it being too similar to Captain Marvel. Edit: I also found out that Chris Claremont, who wrote the original comic praised this adaptation.
Yeah, The Last Stand is all over the place. Jeremy is out of his mind for thinking this is all over the place with its many subplots but that movie isn’t. I’ve realized that Jeremy’s main criticism of the movie is that it doesn’t focus on fighting a villain. This movie was made to be about Jean dealing with her childhood trauma resurfacing as an adults, which is a relatable story.
Naughty Avatar I agree to that as well. Just saw the movie and I honestly think it’s WAY BETTER than the critics were suggesting. Apart from the obviously bad “X-Women” scene, everything else held up for me and it was MILES better than Apocalypse, which might have been Bryan Singer’s fault since he co-wrote the story and the last time he did that, we got Superman Returns. Also, I just found out that Kinberg’s screenplay in The Last Stand was rewritten by Zak Penn (Ready Player One) due to Fox disliking it for being “too dark”. Anyways, I’m hoping Feige (who actually was the one who ordered the reshoots) doesn’t ruin the MCU versions.
we had had enough dark phoenix saga, hopefully they are gonna do a spiderman homecoming, they don't tell the story over again, they just skip it, we get it!
@@CaptainCJ97 Person with question that has multiple a multiple choice answer: Person: Gives an answer that basically covers every possible answer with a single word.
I literally couldn't watch this movie past the 40 minute mark, I just...I just...couldn't and I'm usually not very hard to please when it comes to movies, but this was just horrendous
@@readthisifyouloveitballsde4939 Yeah, He should stop shitting on this movie. X-men dark phoenix is one of the most underrated comic book movies. It was not meant as x-men universe ending, but as a begining of a new trilogy. Rip xmen(2000-2020). now they will let disney ruin it. The writing is way better than the entire mcu, and wtf is he shitting about the visual effects. He should go and watch Endgame and talk about shitty visual effects. This movie is way more cohesive then people say, and the ending is perfect.
IKR. That actor was the ONLY saving grace in that shit movie. Poor guy is probably thinking he got ripped off. It blows my mind that Sophie Turner got this role. She is not all that great, in fact, she isn't even all that GOOD. Quick Silver could do a very awesome solo film especially with Evan Peters playing him. Jen Lawrence needs to quit. She is so cringy to watch, so fake, I simply cannot stand looking at her mutilate her roles. I am yet to see her play anything I felt was good in the least.
@@volgawolfhounds741 i feel like quicksilver gets kinda screwed over in all his movies hes in. In apocalypse, no one cared when he got his leg broken, but everyone lost their shit when mystique was being choked.
Just had this review pop up in my recommendations. Decided to rewatch it and still cracked a year 2 years later. Loved the Office Space reference. Keep on being great Jeremy.
@Devil And most of the Dark Phoenix storyline was cosmic. In other words, it took place in SPACE. No, this movie just decided let's just end it here on Earth. Whatever.
G P you used rotten tomatoes , critics & biased spoiled fans & tried to make it a valid argument . Nah man , no comic book movie follows every exact moment from the comics . This movie might be quite bad , that could be true but you can’t just use another mans opinion to tell you how to feel. That’s some stupid stuff right there
@@yassermoran1065 you may be right that 1 (or more) reviewer and an aggregator of reviews may call something bad that others might actually enjoy; but remember that some people go with certain opinions because they found that their tastes (likes, dislikes and appreciation of nuances) line up the vast majority of the time. If something looks like a less appealing marketing run, from the same studio that gave a bad rendition of this subject matter before due to a crammed storyline (XM3:TLS), gave this particular I.P.'s new direction a bad prior installment (XM:Apoc), kept most of the creative team, then held back reviews to right before its premiere (usually a thing pointing at a subpar movie at best), the last bit of due diligence *is* to see if your favorite [and hopefully aligned] reviewers agree, disagree or find something redeeming to report back. Especially if one doesn't have money to just throw away at a more-than-likely less-than-enjoyable viewing experience. Now, that said, personally I'd calibrate my alignment with my go-to reviewers every once in a while. I'd want to be sure I'm not missing out by trusting and never verifying we're still aligned in tastes, but sometimes that is best done by still viewing it after on home video. If money's not an issue, then I'd do it in the cinema so I'm factoring in the experience of the big screen, sound design and graphics that could help something be more enjoyable despite average plot, story and script. In short, this is the whole point of checking reviews for certain movies, although I'm still going to see it. Although some people's experience can be negatively influenced by hearing reviews in advance, everyone isn't just blindly following a popular, uninformed opinion. I was hoping beyond track record that there'd be more positive news coming out of its last installment too. I like McAvoy, Fassbender and Holt as actors and particularly in these roles, so a good final installment may have tempted Disney to roll them over into the MCU or MCU adjacent version of X-Men we'd eventually get. Plus it would give Turner a good notch in her big screen repertoire instead of a repeat of Clarke & the Terminator fizzle.
The cast and crew said in the behind the scenes features that they didn’t want Jean to be a villain. They wanted her to represent people who suffer from metal illnesses and made this a psychological thriller. Hence why it was going to be released in the fall but Fox forced it into the summer so Alita could get the fall date and than started marking Dark Phoenix as this high stakes event films when it was never made to be.
Both of that stuff was developed in X-Men: Apocalypse. She’s scared little girl who is afraid of her own power and her greatest fear is that she will hurt people someday.
This is an adaptation and thus has to stand on its own. The purple cosmic power in the movie is never once referred to as the “Phoenix Force” in the movie nor it did not look like a Phoenix. It’s like saying the “Robin” in The Dark Knight Rises is Dick Grayson. We were going to get that back when the movie was planned as a two parter but the studio made it into one film in late pre-production.
Oh the filmmakers had the guts to use the Shi’ar. Jessica Chastain had originally signed up to play Lilandra when the story was planned to be a two parter. However, once the studio had made it into one film Kinberg had to cut things out so to not lose focus on Jean. The M’Kraan Crystal was not in Dark Phoenix. That was he Phoenix Saga. They are two separate storylines. Jean had more screen time than Wolverine in each of the X-Men films that were not Wolverine solos. You can look he screen time. So she wasn’t a plot device but the protagonist and had a hero’s journey arc. Everyone else except Xavier had very little screen time.
probably becaue at least with originas its liek aBatman and robin thing where its entertaining to bash on with friends, Dark Phoneix from what I understand is a boring waste of time, not fun, not corny, not entertaining at all
Yeah Even though Wolverine origins was awful, I honestly had a blast watching it but what I’ve seen and heard dark Phoenix was just pure boring and I would rather watch something that I actually would like to watch rather then sleeping through a boring mess
I mean, origins wasn’t that bad. If we ignore or take away the shit that they call “Deadpool”, it’s not that bad of a movie. It still could’ve been better but i would say it was absolutely awful.
I never saw this movie or any of the other x-men movies but really the only one I wanted to see was the deadpool movies. I'm glad I'm missed out on this one. X-wOmAn
Probably just another over the top review, to gain quick views and create some short of fake hype. I bet the movie is just boring, like x-men apocalypse or something like that.
Honestly, Mistique , who is the plot moving mofo in DoFP, is so goddamn stupid and striaght up braindead in that movie that I cannot like it. Like, the plot is just sooo fucking dumb in so many instances. I think the only reason people actually like it it’s because we finally have mostly great actors on screen interacting with each other (the actors for Wolvie, Magnetto, Xavier and QS).... cause damn, I could barely get through Apocalypse since the actors for Nightcrawler, Cyclops(what a wimp btw), Jubileu and Jean Grey were sooooo bad in that movie , also the villains looked like a bunch of school actors near Michael Fesbender who actually did a good job. The gab in acting skill in Apocalypse was simply absurd
Lol, it's funny how at the very beginning of this video Jeremy was mentioning stuff about how this X-Men series should end. Literally when I saw the Dark Phoenix trailer for the first time when I saw Captain Marvel in theaters with my Dad. My Dad's first reaction was, "Seriously, are they making another one?!" He and Jeremy can relate! XD
I disagree with the MCU. Now that Disney owns Fox, they have a lot more material to work with. They may never reach End Game levels of hype again, but they could still pull off some hella good movies.
What annoys me is that EVERYONE with the exception of the 90s cartoon series, jumps straight into the "Dark Phoenix" story. Totally skipping over that when first possessed by the Phoenix entity, Jean was doing good things and was a guardian who saved planets. She was good. Then when her time came to leave Jean Grey's body, the Phoenix was like "Screw this, I like the feeling of being human. I'm staying and nobody better get in my way." That is the reason it worked in the comic and cartoon. Cause they had the balls to say "Watch a powerful good spirit lose control of itself and basically give into DARK part ALL humans have deep inside of them. Even the best versions of us.
@@creativecookbook Dark Phoenix in the comic is an epic saga. It worth Marvel whole 10 years of Avengers Thanos saga. Not this whimper of a movie. She destroys planets, for fuck sake! Not just meddling around inside a train coach.
Fucking thank you! .... Yes, the Phoenix force is ultimately an arch of things going bad and an ultimate evil, but everyone jumps right to evil aaaand go! ... Theres no build up to what it turns into from what it had potential to be. I always looked at it like the symbiotes. Like, they were never really good, but they settled on behavior for the sake of the host, but then things go super bad when it gets rejected and essentially get its feelings hurt. .... No one wants to flesh out these great story archs for some reason. Its always, "alright, dark Phoenix, unstoppable destruction. Action!"
I totally agree idk why they don't go the multipart route introduce jean in one movie the Phoenix in 2&3 then dark Phoenix at the end of 3& all of 4. No need to rush it when you can milk it like the cash cow it is.
@@Akeldama9 Yeah, the weird thing about Jeremy’s take is that it is build on the misconception that Jean is suppose to be the villain of the story. It seems that never read the Dark Phoenix Saga because Jean was never of the of the comic. It is mainly about her psychologically unraveling and being manipulated by the Hellfire Club. The movie does the same thing but with those aliens.
@@agentofchaos7456 no THE TRAILERS AND PRODUCTION INDICATE (AND IN MOST COMIC RUNS, INC THE PHOENIX RISES) JEAN IS THE VILLAIN... THE FILM WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAST FILM AND JUST MADE A ALT STORY THAT WENT INTO A SOLO PLACE.
@@SB992REBORN I’ve read the comics and that is not what the first trailer suggested. Only the post-delay trailer depicted Jean as the villain to mislead people.
@@leguan278 lol I'm just gonna assume his emotions made him say it. Because whew. Like it wasnt as good as it should have been but it far from horrible even more far from Wolverine origins.
@RushEffect X1 hasn’t aged too well is the only thing. Heaps of early 2000s cliches and the film making feels amateurish compared to modern superhero media
Reshoots and delays ruiend the movie, both fox and disney is to blame for this. What a shame, we got 4 bad superhero movies out of 4 this year, what a fucking shame.
They should’ve learnt from the MCU the MCU continued to do the best they can to create good movies even when Disney took over. The same applies for Star Wars Disney took over and Star Wars was like: welp time to destroy the franchise.
at around 1h 14 mins) The subway train crashing through the wall behind Magneto is a real train on a hydraulic rig. It was supposed to stop a few feet further back but travelled further than intended, knocking down some ceiling tiles very close to Michael Fassbender. Fassbender, ever the professional, didn't even flinch and the shot made it into the finished film.
One thing I noticed is this film is set in 1992, like 30 years after First Class yet most of them look entirely the same. Raven and Hank will probably supposed to be in their mid-late 50s, Magneto and Charles in their 60s or even early 70s. They didn't even care lol
@@reed2144 There is one thing you aren't getting, and its the fact in this series in this timeline. Erik, Raven and Charles were all born in the early 1930's since they were teens in 1944. So let's say that they were born in 1932 and first class was set in 1962 meaning they were 30 in that you following? Days of Future past was set in 1973 11 years after that which would make them 41 again without really ageing to much. Then you have apocalypse set in 1983 and 10 years after dofp which would make them 51 years old in that movie with almost no signs of ageing. Then you have this movie set in 1992 9 years after that and 30 years since first class. Meaning in this movie they are 60 years old. Yet they still look like they are 30 years old which makes no sense and it's not natural and it makes the one in charge of this movie and writer of the series look like he does not care at all. All they had to was subtle changes throughout the movie and series to make it look like they were ageing then it would have made more sense but they didnt do and given whose writing this crap it does not surprise me at all given his track record.
I honestly didn't mind the movie too much, the last train sequence was brilliant. When Jean takes the wood out from under Quicksilvers feet and she's just staring at him, that was a cool moment. I do agree though, some R rated Dark Phoenix action would have done it
The train sequence was easily the best part of the film. It was exciting, well-choreographed and it gave every mutant a moment to shine. And what makes it even more shocking was evidently, the entire scene was added in reshoots to replace the original finale. If the rest of the film had even half the energy and creativity of the train sequence, it would have been a perfectly good, solid film. But for me, it was just too little, too late.
Logan is the only xmen movie of note and that was by being as removed as it could be in tone and content from the rest of the franchise as possible. 20 years and maybe an OK first movie and one solid entry. Damn.
Yep. Luckily I have an AMC stubs membership so this won't cost me anything. I'll just watch it for completion sake. It's the end of an awful Fox xmen era and I just wanna see it the shit show so that I'm well informed when I criticize it
Just my humble opinion: Deadpool > Deadpool 2 > X-Men: Days of Future Past > The Wolverine > X-Men: First Class > X2 > X-Men > Logan (they killed him😭) >>> X-Men: Apocalypse > X-Men Origins: Wolverine > X-Men 3: The Last Stand >>>>>>>>>>> Dark Phoenix
I haven't seen the film but going off the trailer I was under the impression that Xavier put the mental blocks in her head to keep the Phoenix away and the energy shit in space she absorbed destroyed those blocks inside her
I think it's more of the expectation of both films. Like lets be honest here, nobody really had any expectations or thought that Fan4stic was gonna be good. But for the x-men franchise, you have at least some possible good past movies, as well as a really good story already there.
5 good films
5 bad films
The X-men franchise is, at least, perfectly balanced. As allthings should be.
aren’t there 11 movies though?
And then you got Deadpool and Deadpool 2 come in like "Fuck yo balance Cable"
3 good films, honestly. X-Men, X-Men 2 and The Wolverine 2013. The rest suck, with Last Stand being the only guilty pleasure.
@@JessicaChastainFan What about Deadpool?
X men, X2, First class, Days of future past and Logan
*_Evacuate the city, engage all defenses and get this man a refund._*
LMFAO.
*Im dead* 😂😂😂😂😂
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The "X-Women" line literally made me groan in the theater.
When the MIB sequel pokes fun at feminism, you know this shit's getting old
Such a cringe line. Mystique of all people shouldn’t be saying that line when she was the one who originally came up with the name x-men
If they believed in equality they would have suggested them be called “The X-People”
she says it after NightCrawler saves Phoenix
Autistic Clorox I thought I was the only one I'm thinking.... Bruh. You really had to go there
I had to rewatch First Class and Logan after this movie to cleanse my soul
It’s not really bad. It just wasn’t made to be a summer movie like it was mismarketed to be. It was a character study about someone’s dark side...like it was advertised.
@@agentofchaos7456 nahhh, almost everything is bad in the writing
The psychological drama is exactly what I was looking for (literally just watched it hours ago).
But the point about psychological drama, is that the detail of the psychological aspect have to be correct. Which are not at all (or at least clear at all) in this movie:
-. Hank, the guy who in his whole life has almost always by Charles side (even during DOFP), suddenly went against him without any discussion like 'Charles, you should apologize', up until he suddenly break down because of Raven. They should have had time to talk about each other behaviours beforehand.
-. Hank, again, from someone who is almost always supportful on the idea of peace and not hurting others. Suddenly wants to KILL one of his own (former) colleague and student for revenge. Very out of character...
-. Charles, was suddenly being a forceful godfather who just wants Jean to go back home no matter what. Does not realizing that that is just gonna make the person, especially during ptsd and after he has lied to her, becomes much more instable...
-. Magneto, just talked about going through his past and talk about how to move on from that, letting go of what people did to his friends and family. And suddenly went through the same 'path' again, even though indeed Raven is his close friend.
-. The aliens.... have the lamest motivation.... Their race was wiped out by that thing, and now she wants to harness it just like that. Very typical villain....
In the end, this psychological drama becomes much like a teenage girly drama (with action and bad, but forgettable, villain) for me and is more like a Disney Channel movie instead of the one I am looking for from X-Men.
@@stanleymaximillian8403 Jean wasn't really acting like a teenage girl but a schizophrenic(according to the cast and filmmakers). That is the psychological aspect of the movie I'm referring to.
Google "Dark Phoenix is an Eye-Opening Lesson in What PTSD is Like For Women, and Why That Matters". Schizophrenia and PTSD share many symptoms.
Check out my latest video about the psychological aspect.
Don't forget Days of Future Past
Honestly, Fox should’ve ended their X Men movies with Logan.
The Begley Show agree!
Wouldve been such an appropriate and good sendoff for the franchise given that the disney buy-out closed so soon/fast
I agree. Logan is a classic comic book movie.
Nathon Fleming not really, the buyout was official this March. But a good dormancy would've been fine
Ohhh boy you really think this is the end 😂😂😂 the end of the x-men series yhea probably but also the beginning of the marvel & x-men, you think Disney buyed fox for nothing? I personally want so much a crossout between this 2 series (and fantastic 4)
*looks at the thumbnail*
Oh, good to know.
YourBoyRoar Seriously, though.
Not a production error. They messed this up.
@RAINY DAY I do
I dont get the Jake Crawler, Jake McCoy and Jake Xavier joke can someone please explain
Bullshit. it was an awesome movie. the action sequences were incredible seeing all the xmen fighting.
I'm sad that Logan and Tony will never interact
Captain Mexico they can in our hearts
You mean Jackman and Downey Jr. ? ;) feel ya
That's what fanfics are for.
Hugh Jackman said that he wanted to be with the avengers, that wasn’t gonna happen either way after endgame
The x-women line hurt my soul
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I nearly walked out of the theater as soon as that line was uttered.
@@somerandolad Same dude
It actually would be a great idea… if it were Pornhub.
Post credit scene of this movie, Nick Fury shows up,
"I want to start a team, and ya'll aren't invited."
SKYRULE-49 hahahaha
😄😄😄😄😄
LMAO! You Sir, just won the Internets.
Avengers vs X-Men
Deadpool shows up and doesn't want them in his next movie either
Every time an X-men movie comes out... The Gods flip a coin.
LOL
Ajay!
The gods are going to subvert our expectations, aren’t they?
THEREDAKAY always bad smh only thing good that came out was wolverine
And believe me, he's winding up
"It takes place on a train how interesting can that be?"
Spider-Man 2: Am I a joke to you
He also said the same thing about the heroes fighting each other and a major character death. It sounds like he was trying to actively dislike the movie.
I mean so was I when I watched this movie
You mean were trying to hate it? Forgot to put in “death” after “major character”.
Snowpiercer: am i a joke to you?
@Benjamin Nikolin yea pretty much
Sophie Turner's 2019 sure isn't going as she hoped.
Joel D she made a mistake of marrying a terrible singer.
@@Jonathanest90s nah
Fox's Xmen saga shouldve ended on a high with Logan.
Agreed
ablurt_55 just be glad Hugh jackmen wasn’t in this dumpster fire
Or DOFP
Producers: man we made one of the best superhero movies ever and finally gave people the kinda of movie they been wanting and now we are going to be remembered positively. Fox: nope we can have that make the shortest xmen movie so people remember we shit.
ablurt_55 They can still end there for us. All we have to do is pretend everything after that never happened. The same way everybody forgets they made a Lion King sequel. Oh shit 🤦🏿♂️
I literally died laughing when Charles “walked”
That was kinda funny and odd, you're not the only who said they laughed at that to
That was BEYOND disturbing to me.
And yes, also funny
@@leonardobraynen1524 For me, it was that helicopter scene.
RiP.
it felt like they put that in the movie to be like “SEEEE she’s DaRK”
Magneto in apocalype is a power house !
Here ... Meh ...
LoL
So the movie ends with an actual trainwreck.
That's pretty fitting.
Neuman Otávio so everyone dies??
It’s like poetry, it rhymes
Neuman Otavio For the Win!
That is the right thing I would after wrecking an whole franchise from a grocery store to dump yard.
They could've gone out on a high note with Logan, but nooo, they just had to keep going.
MattheJ1 Logan, good as it was, still had quite a few problems endemic to the X-Men movies. People forget about Monsanto killing the mutants and all the kids with recognizable names, but no relation to the characters they nominally are
And make Deadpool 2?
Yeah definitely seeming like it's a better move to just forget Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix ever happened, and just treat DoFP as the true ending of the series, with Logan as the final epilogue.
Karl Naumann couldn’t agree more
I'm not much of a film critic, so there are really only two things I care about when I watch a movie: the plot and the visuals. Logan had a masterful plot and masterful visuals, and that's all that matters to me.
"I'm the Juggernaut Bitch!" was more entertaining than all of Dark Phoenix
If you're not interested in films that explore a character's dark side/repressed trauma than why did you watch this movie?
@@agentofchaos7456 were you attempting to ask the most ignorant and redundant question in you tube history? if so Gratz, nailed it.
@@tperfect7241 You've never read the Dark Phoenix Saga have you?
@@agentofchaos7456 I have. Multiple times. And that also has nothing to do with his comment and opinion on the movie and your unrelated response.
@@tperfect7241 But to answer your question, that was a semi-serious question. The Dark Phoenix Saga is about showing Jean's slow descend into madness. But people seems to think it is about the X-Men fighting Jean or that Jean is the main villain of the story.
A lot of misinformed opinions in both the video and the replies.
Please god let Marvel repair the damage once they merge the X-men into the MCU.
for real princes lea obi wan moment...
Hurray we will have another blend movie, the 1123123423427th.
People like you piss me off. You act like x men 1, 2, first class, days do future past, deadpool, and Logan werent good. I love the mcu, but quit acting like rhe x men have beennin bad hands.
Yes, because everything Marvel does is great?
@John Doe Hmmm, the only thing that sucked huh?
Captain America: The First Avenger
Thor 2
Iron Man 3
Why ruin the Dark Phoenix storyline once , when you can ruin it twice...
Thanks Fox.
Well at least now Marvel can have the next big threat for the MCU that on par with Thanos.
Oh that nice but very very funny
Hey at least they took something that was already ruined rather than taking something else and ruining that too.
Hahahahaha
No Lilandra and no gladiator Such a shame.
I’m really gonna miss McAvoy and Fassbender as Professor X and Magneto. Those two absolutely *NAILED* their roles. Props to them. Can’t wait to see what the MCU does for the X - Men.
Probably the best representation of the characters to date since the original xmen movies lol
Totally agree
Yeah both of them were great especially Michael. I didnt care about x men UNTIL I saw first class and fell in love with his portrayal as magneto and understood why he is ranked either the best or second best marvel villains
The ultimate on again off again romance. Ross and Rachel don't have shit on them.
I think disney will surprise everyone and not touch the X-men for a long time
"Jessica Chastain and Friends" 😭😭😆😆!!
“As a great philosopher once said...this is a mess.” 😂
Jean was never the villain of the Dark Phoenix Saga so Jeremy's arguments are based on misconceptions.
I regret watching this movie again in 2023 🤢
Jeremy took his jacket off...that’s how you know it’s bad.
Ignatius Kray Haa haaaa! 😂😂😂
When did he take his jacket off
@@nunyadambidnis2274 5:10
@@ishayl3y430 It's bad just except it
*Sees thumbnail*
Me: Oof, that bad?
Arnulfo Martinez my thoughts exactly.
Dude.... you said everything i said to my friends about this movie...
HOT GARBAGE
Nah fuck that nigga jojo. He makes no valid points. He a whole troll
@@damonsimmons6847 nah naah, who this fuck is diz boii?? Prolly 12
its bad... and the fact that Avengers exists makes it worse.
@@friendly1870 avengers?
Friendly yeah when you compare it to the MCU it is shit
You can find the lack of motivation in the development of this movie just by looking at every character, their low costume design, and how fast the storyline goes. It was like watching a group project of rookie actors dressed in Forever 21 and Pull & Bear just trying to get their final project done lol
At least the effects were good, I guess 🤷♂️
Not true. This movie was a originally a two parter until the studio condensed it into one at the last minute and than cut around a half a hour of scenes. Also, the X-suits were suppose to bad, the characters in the movie even say they were bad and they only wear it for two scenes.
I knew it would be bad ... but
It kinda surprised me when you said "worse than the last stand" and then you ended with WORSE THAN WOLVERINE ORIGINS???
Mann way to murder a movie ....
I was to especially origins
Last Stand has some good stuff in it, just the pacing is wack because there's two movies shoved together. I find it hard to believe Dark Phoenix is worse than Wolverine: Origins. It kind of makes me morbidly curious to see this, but it sounds like it's "boring bad" as opposed to "funny bad".
But is it worse than The Wolverine? Which is a separate movie where he goes to Japan. Since it wasn't mention in the video, I'm a little worried I may have just hallucinated that one.
Actually I knew it was going to be bad too. To be fair I liked X man the last stand but for it to be worse than X-Men origins and X man apocalypse(mostly because they turned mystique into the catch fire girl literally copy and paste job. Everyone admires her like in catching fire and she is the main character because she is Jennifer Lawrence not because she is mystique.)
If it's worse than those 2 this might be the worst comic move of all time
Alex Havener Wolverine goes to Japan is the movie people forget about all the time, it's certainly better than Origin. People meme it all the time with the case of the yellow suit but forgot it's from Wolverine Japan.
Reviews: “Fox failed to adapt Dark Phoenix yet again”
Kevin Feige: “Fine... I’ll do it myself.”
Storyline is so tired by now, it'll be 2030s before we ever see Jean Red again.
😂😂😂 true dat
I hope not, just leave it alone at this point
mk6rfc1 Admittedly I agree, I’m X-Men-ed out. Let them rest for a bit.
@@drlca6601 also thought so about Spiderman, but here we are
When the random army guy dies and nightcrawler develops a strong emotional bond to him for no reason and then gets angry for like half a minute then starts killing people. The cringe.
Its like they never seen the Saturday morning cartoon in the 90s🤔..
Just make that live action 😡
Facts, waaayyy better story, action, characters, everything basically.
YESSSSS BROOOOOOO
you know what they say, "you can only go down hill after your master piece", if you know what i mean.
This was based on the comic.
@@agentofchaos7456 I have seen the cartoon and read the Dark Phoneix saga comics - this is based on an extremely, extremely loose interpretation of the comics.
"Not as good as X-Men Origins: Wolverine"
This is the worst thing you can say about any movie
Did X men origins wolverine suck?
Jeremy is a moron who never read the Phoenix saga.
Disney: you couldn’t live with your failure, where did that bring you? Back to me!
Fox: :/
Disney: Let's kill it properly this time.
@@Beltzer0072 and forever
Disney taking over copyright: I am inevitable.
Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same.
You the GOAT for this Comment 😂😂😂😂
The train scene is actually pretty damn badass.
that's the only scene rest is a waste of time
@@whoknew2273 You don’t like movies that focus on PTSD and a character study on someone’s dark side?
Yeshua there are plenty of ptsd movies that do it better than this, even iron man 3 which is a big “ok” is wayyyy better than dark pheonix
@@JV-yq7dx Dark Phoenix explores a different aspect of PTSD than Iron Man 3.
@@agentofchaos7456 Did you just move the goalposts and why would Jean have PTSD?
Movie was so much garbage,everybody had their powers on lite for most of it,being a Magneto fan was hugely disappointed,serious cyclops was standing on a car,we've seen him lift a sub,a stadium,also we've seen him get rid of someone who had no metal on them yet in this movie he's......ugh
Also he KNOWS Jean can control things yet walks right In head on to kill her,the helicopter chess match between the two was also cringe worthy to watch,Magneto floating over to Jean also looked terrible
The action scenes looked uninspired,there was nothing epic for Magneto to do and no epic quick silver scene,the original dark phoenix looked scary and powerful Sansa did not,Charles is also very powerful but is so weak in this movie....movie is just trash
Dude, Magneto was awesome in the train scene and wasn’t meant to be scary but resemble someone having a mental breakdown so she could be relatable.
How do you screw up one of the greatest comic book arcs...twice??!
well if it's that easy u become an director and make it
Make it word for word. They always try to cut a huge arc in one movie
Zack snyder did it already, he F'ed BVS, And JL
@@chaosiscoming9184 with the money that the studios are investing, a guy in coma could do better
Simple. You're a hack who works for Fox and doesn't understand comic books.
*looks at thumbnail*
Yep, I knew it was gonna be one of those.
Damn I was about to say that😂😂
They messed up fantastic four twice and dark Phoenix twice as well
Tyler Sells that was the exact same reaction I had when I saw his facial expression in the thumbnail lmao ohhhh man
When it comes to the pprequel/alternate time lime movies, I liked how you could see the beginnings of the great man Charles would be, and the flaws he had still yet to overcome.
The only problem is, after days of future past, they pretty much gave up on the "great man he will become" and instead focused far too heavily on his flaws. He doesn't make any progressions on improving mutant rights on screen, and therefore will never become the man he was in X men 3 who Magneto said had done more for mutants that pyro would ever know.
He just remains a deeply flawed and kind of useless idealist.
no apocalypse progressed his great man status... watch it again. by the end HE IS PROFESSOR X!
Can we all agree that the best scene in the entire movie was Dazzle signing in the woods at the party? Simply beautiful!
When Jeremy brings The Last Stand as a positive role model... you know they did something wrong...
True. . . Hard to imagine but . . He said it.
And you know they completely busted it when he says x-men origins is better
Same director
Yea, honestly I would rather pay to watch last stand rather than watch Dark Phoenix again for free😂😂😂
Bruh, point taken.
Jeremy: This Movie is......Dogshit!
Thor: I knew it!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ishayl3y430 Fuck is your problem
@@ishayl3y430 What?
You no I'm one of the few people that thouroughly enjoyed Thor the Dark World.
Haha pretty accurate
When recounting the X-Men movies, Jeremy forgot The Wolverine (2013)
I honestly felt really bad for Simon Kinberg, who wrote and directed the movie. Not only was this his directorial debut but he was given another chance to do the Dark Phoenix storyline and he even planned to make a trilogy around it.
But due to the Disney buyout, Fox grew impatient, stepped in and messed the film up even worse than the first time.
It was planned to be a two movies but Fox made it into one in late production. Disney had no hand in it.
I wouldn’t say they messed it up even more. This movie actually had a clear vision.
Naughty Avatar I know. What I meant by “the first time” was actually The Last Stand which I had finally watched recently. And WOOOWWWWW, its really bad. So yeah already, this movie is better than The Last Stand. And I also think Fox grew impatient due to Avengers Endgame and I also read somewhere that they reshot the third act due to it being too similar to Captain Marvel.
Edit: I also found out that Chris Claremont, who wrote the original comic praised this adaptation.
Yeah, The Last Stand is all over the place. Jeremy is out of his mind for thinking this is all over the place with its many subplots but that movie isn’t. I’ve realized that Jeremy’s main criticism of the movie is that it doesn’t focus on fighting a villain. This movie was made to be about Jean dealing with her childhood trauma resurfacing as an adults, which is a relatable story.
Naughty Avatar I agree to that as well. Just saw the movie and I honestly think it’s WAY BETTER than the critics were suggesting. Apart from the obviously bad “X-Women” scene, everything else held up for me and it was MILES better than Apocalypse, which might have been Bryan Singer’s fault since he co-wrote the story and the last time he did that, we got Superman Returns. Also, I just found out that Kinberg’s screenplay in The Last Stand was rewritten by Zak Penn (Ready Player One) due to Fox disliking it for being “too dark”. Anyways, I’m hoping Feige (who actually was the one who ordered the reshoots) doesn’t ruin the MCU versions.
(Sees The Thumbnail.)
Oh, No...
I was hoping it would be a bait-and-switch ruse and he actually loved it. Damn.
Let’s be honest we already saw this coming....
i hAvnt even seen it
For me. (Sees The Thumbnail.)...
Oh, yes...
Fans: So how many times are you going to ruin the Dark Phoenix saga?
Fox: yes
It also works if you replace Fox with Simon Kinberg
I nevr got this meme
we had had enough dark phoenix saga, hopefully they are gonna do a spiderman homecoming, they don't tell the story over again, they just skip it, we get it!
Congrats Andrew atleast your Spiderman was better than all of the people in this movie
@@CaptainCJ97
Person with question that has multiple a multiple choice answer:
Person: Gives an answer that basically covers every possible answer with a single word.
I literally couldn't watch this movie past the 40 minute mark, I just...I just...couldn't and I'm usually not very hard to please when it comes to movies, but this was just horrendous
IT was so boring to me... I've tried watching it 3 time, and every time I fell asleep, and I've never made it to the 1 hour mark.
lol the first half was entertaining.
Perfect review. I agree 100% The icing on the cake was Cyclops putting up the plaque for The Jean Grey School. Eye rolling bad.
Jean was not the villain of the Dark Phoenix Saga. So many of his points are not valid.
@@readthisifyouloveitballsde4939 Yeah, He should stop shitting on this movie. X-men dark phoenix is one of the most underrated comic book movies. It was not meant as x-men universe ending, but as a begining of a new trilogy. Rip xmen(2000-2020). now they will let disney ruin it. The writing is way better than the entire mcu, and wtf is he shitting about the visual effects. He should go and watch Endgame and talk about shitty visual effects. This movie is way more cohesive then people say, and the ending is perfect.
@zyehov movie was hot trash tf, are you smoking better than the whole mcu?
Quicksilver was my favorite character in this series
boy was I dissapointed
Lil Saucy Joe totally, he was barely a factor in this movie at all
Yeah he got swipe away just like that. Wtf
IKR. That actor was the ONLY saving grace in that shit movie. Poor guy is probably thinking he got ripped off. It blows my mind that Sophie Turner got this role. She is not all that great, in fact, she isn't even all that GOOD. Quick Silver could do a very awesome solo film especially with Evan Peters playing him. Jen Lawrence needs to quit. She is so cringy to watch, so fake, I simply cannot stand looking at her mutilate her roles. I am yet to see her play anything I felt was good in the least.
@@volgawolfhounds741 i feel like quicksilver gets kinda screwed over in all his movies hes in. In apocalypse, no one cared when he got his leg broken, but everyone lost their shit when mystique was being choked.
I feel you
"Not as good as X-Men Origins: Wolverine"
DAMN, it's that bad? Okay, I'mma stay far away from it then.
I got tickets for tomorrow night lol
Xmen origins isnt even a bad film it just does deadpool dirty
@@KotorFan-zb1bo sorry for your loss
Lol Wolverine origins wasn't that bad!
@@La-familia-de-Fazio it's bad. At least the new movies had strong performances. Origins wolverine had scchriber and Jackman and nothing else.
Just had this review pop up in my recommendations. Decided to rewatch it and still cracked a year 2 years later. Loved the Office Space reference. Keep on being great Jeremy.
I just saw it, never thought a review could be so accurate. I was checking my phone hoping it would end soon
I kept waiting for it to start. Lol it never did
@Devil And most of the Dark Phoenix storyline was cosmic. In other words, it took place in SPACE. No, this movie just decided let's just end it here on Earth. Whatever.
Shit got real for me when you said you rather watch wolverine origins lol
When he said origins is better i was like YO CHILL MAN the movie can't be that bad🤣
Yeah that's blasphemy. Jeremy must be confused
@@CouchCit I'm just commenting in case you come back after watching it and edit your comment stating that Jeremy was in fact... not confused. ;)
@@xtremegamer96 😂😂😂😂😂 I'm in tears , yo chill lmfaooooo it must be
lol wolverine origins wasn't that bad!!
The bar for this movie was already set so low given Last Stand. Yet Fox somehow managed to bury it six feet deeper. Bravo Fox, I am legit impressed.
Did you watch it ? Or are you simply letting this mans review define the movie for you
G P you used rotten tomatoes , critics & biased spoiled fans & tried to make it a valid argument . Nah man , no comic book movie follows every exact moment from the comics . This movie might be quite bad , that could be true but you can’t just use another mans opinion to tell you how to feel. That’s some stupid stuff right there
Fox, the unparalled masters of Chicken Limbo.
Everyone: "How low can you go??"
Fox: "yes"
@@yassermoran1065 you may be right that 1 (or more) reviewer and an aggregator of reviews may call something bad that others might actually enjoy; but remember that some people go with certain opinions because they found that their tastes (likes, dislikes and appreciation of nuances) line up the vast majority of the time.
If something looks like a less appealing marketing run, from the same studio that gave a bad rendition of this subject matter before due to a crammed storyline (XM3:TLS), gave this particular I.P.'s new direction a bad prior installment (XM:Apoc), kept most of the creative team, then held back reviews to right before its premiere (usually a thing pointing at a subpar movie at best), the last bit of due diligence *is* to see if your favorite [and hopefully aligned] reviewers agree, disagree or find something redeeming to report back. Especially if one doesn't have money to just throw away at a more-than-likely less-than-enjoyable viewing experience.
Now, that said, personally I'd calibrate my alignment with my go-to reviewers every once in a while. I'd want to be sure I'm not missing out by trusting and never verifying we're still aligned in tastes, but sometimes that is best done by still viewing it after on home video. If money's not an issue, then I'd do it in the cinema so I'm factoring in the experience of the big screen, sound design and graphics that could help something be more enjoyable despite average plot, story and script.
In short, this is the whole point of checking reviews for certain movies, although I'm still going to see it. Although some people's experience can be negatively influenced by hearing reviews in advance, everyone isn't just blindly following a popular, uninformed opinion.
I was hoping beyond track record that there'd be more positive news coming out of its last installment too. I like McAvoy, Fassbender and Holt as actors and particularly in these roles, so a good final installment may have tempted Disney to roll them over into the MCU or MCU adjacent version of X-Men we'd eventually get. Plus it would give Turner a good notch in her big screen repertoire instead of a repeat of Clarke & the Terminator fizzle.
Let's face it. X-Men Origins:Wolverine and X-Men:Apocalypse set the bar much lower before Dark Phoenix came along.
Buffy The Vampire Slayer did the Dark Phoenix better than...Dark Phoenix 🤦♂️
The cast and crew said in the behind the scenes features that they didn’t want Jean to be a villain. They wanted her to represent people who suffer from metal illnesses and made this a psychological thriller. Hence why it was going to be released in the fall but Fox forced it into the summer so Alita could get the fall date and than started marking Dark Phoenix as this high stakes event films when it was never made to be.
Both of that stuff was developed in X-Men: Apocalypse. She’s scared little girl who is afraid of her own power and her greatest fear is that she will hurt people someday.
Also, google “Dark Phoenix is an Eye-Opening Lesson in What PTSD is Like For Women, and Why That Matters“.
This is an adaptation and thus has to stand on its own. The purple cosmic power in the movie is never once referred to as the “Phoenix Force” in the movie nor it did not look like a Phoenix. It’s like saying the “Robin” in The Dark Knight Rises is Dick Grayson.
We were going to get that back when the movie was planned as a two parter but the studio made it into one film in late pre-production.
Oh the filmmakers had the guts to use the Shi’ar. Jessica Chastain had originally signed up to play Lilandra when the story was planned to be a two parter. However, once the studio had made it into one film Kinberg had to cut things out so to not lose focus on Jean.
The M’Kraan Crystal was not in Dark Phoenix. That was he Phoenix Saga. They are two separate storylines.
Jean had more screen time than Wolverine in each of the X-Men films that were not Wolverine solos. You can look he screen time. So she wasn’t a plot device but the protagonist and had a hero’s journey arc. Everyone else except Xavier had very little screen time.
I realize I enjoyed watching the cartoon Xmen series better.. Poor writing.
The animated series were the shit bro!
"Not as good as origins wolverine."
Peter Parker: Mr jahns, I don't feel so good.
probably becaue at least with originas its liek aBatman and robin thing where its entertaining to bash on with friends, Dark Phoneix from what I understand is a boring waste of time, not fun, not corny, not entertaining at all
Yeah Even though Wolverine origins was awful, I honestly had a blast watching it but what I’ve seen and heard dark Phoenix was just pure boring and I would rather watch something that I actually would like to watch rather then sleeping through a boring mess
I mean, origins wasn’t that bad. If we ignore or take away the shit that they call “Deadpool”, it’s not that bad of a movie. It still could’ve been better but i would say it was absolutely awful.
*DEADPOOL IS COMING IN FAR FROM HOME.*
No one asked
Xavier: "She'll kill us all"
Captain America: "But not us" 😏
Jd Atkinson lmao
Ditto, fuck!
Really
not us
Captain America : "Bananas"
I never saw this movie or any of the other x-men movies but really the only one I wanted to see was the deadpool movies. I'm glad I'm missed out on this one. X-wOmAn
Whatever you do, at least see Logan or days of future past. 2 of the best movies in the whole franchise. For real
Well sad ur missing out 3 of the most greatest movies better than anything mcu has thrown at us
Watched it yesterday
Wasnt that bad
The fight in new york didnt make sense but the rest of it was fine
Just came back from the theater. I liked it.
Dude same!
And you didn't see it
@@K0mhs i fucking hated it
Simon Kinberg did a good job as a director
He is better directing than writing
Also, as a producer, he gave us the best of the X-Men
It’s worse than Origins Wolverine!?!?
Good lord😂
Black Jesus that’s when I KNEW the movie was TRASH. Damn... 💩💩💩💩💩
I didn’t even think that was possible lol
Yah, calling it dogshit seemed like an upgrade after that insult
Yes and it's even worse than your grammar.
Probably just another over the top review, to gain quick views and create some short of fake hype. I bet the movie is just boring, like x-men apocalypse or something like that.
X men, X2, First class, DOFP, Logan: so many good movies and now...
LOOK HOW THEY MASSACRED MY BOY
"Disney buys Xmen" LOOK HOW THEY ARE ABOUT TO REVIVE MY BOY
For how they handled Star Wars and Marvel.... I won't hold my breath
First class is my fav, that movie was amazing.
Honestly, Mistique , who is the plot moving mofo in DoFP, is so goddamn stupid and striaght up braindead in that movie that I cannot like it. Like, the plot is just sooo fucking dumb in so many instances. I think the only reason people actually like it it’s because we finally have mostly great actors on screen interacting with each other (the actors for Wolvie, Magnetto, Xavier and QS).... cause damn, I could barely get through Apocalypse since the actors for Nightcrawler, Cyclops(what a wimp btw), Jubileu and Jean Grey were sooooo bad in that movie , also the villains looked like a bunch of school actors near Michael Fesbender who actually did a good job. The gab in acting skill in Apocalypse was simply absurd
Kakakarot Cake especially how they made her the “hero” in apocalypse movie🤦🏽♂️
I was drifting off to sleep when CZcams shuffled to this video and it had me cracking up
Lol, it's funny how at the very beginning of this video Jeremy was mentioning stuff about how this X-Men series should end. Literally when I saw the Dark Phoenix trailer for the first time when I saw Captain Marvel in theaters with my Dad. My Dad's first reaction was, "Seriously, are they making another one?!" He and Jeremy can relate! XD
Me seeing thumbnail: “well, at least it’s not Last Stand.”
Watching review: “it appears I’m wrong.”
Yeah... that was a savage fucking statement.
When the bottom of the barrel is better than your movie... dear god what have you done!
Apparently It Was FAR FAR WORSE
He said it's worse than X-men Origins Wolverine so it must be a trainwreck.
Logan (2017) was the end of the X-Men saga for me.
And I'm keeping it that way.
AJcaraballo95 I agree
I dont think anyone will disagree with you, just like how the MCU ended with Endgame, we all know its over.
Same
I disagree with the MCU.
Now that Disney owns Fox, they have a lot more material to work with.
They may never reach End Game levels of hype again, but they could still pull off some hella good movies.
I can't believe I was hoping for Dark Phoenix to be the Logan of xmen in terms of going out with a final blast. Boy did they fuck up.
X-Women: Female Forced 🤘😎🤘
Never cared for Sophie Turner's acting myself, but the rest was ok.
*_Jeremy:_* "This movie does have some ggg--"
*_Me:_* "Oh, this is encouraging!"
*_Jeremy:_* "--garbage."
*_Me:_* "Welp."
Quinn Fowlie lol
The twist of the video 😂
This was my exact thought process also😂
This video had a better script than the movie
*EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED*
What annoys me is that EVERYONE with the exception of the 90s cartoon series, jumps straight into the "Dark Phoenix" story. Totally skipping over that when first possessed by the Phoenix entity, Jean was doing good things and was a guardian who saved planets. She was good. Then when her time came to leave Jean Grey's body, the Phoenix was like "Screw this, I like the feeling of being human. I'm staying and nobody better get in my way." That is the reason it worked in the comic and cartoon. Cause they had the balls to say "Watch a powerful good spirit lose control of itself and basically give into DARK part ALL humans have deep inside of them. Even the best versions of us.
that sounds interesting, i did not know anything about that except that dark phoenix trailers looked boring.
@@creativecookbook Dark Phoenix in the comic is an epic saga. It worth Marvel whole 10 years of Avengers Thanos saga. Not this whimper of a movie. She destroys planets, for fuck sake! Not just meddling around inside a train coach.
Fucking thank you! .... Yes, the Phoenix force is ultimately an arch of things going bad and an ultimate evil, but everyone jumps right to evil aaaand go! ... Theres no build up to what it turns into from what it had potential to be. I always looked at it like the symbiotes. Like, they were never really good, but they settled on behavior for the sake of the host, but then things go super bad when it gets rejected and essentially get its feelings hurt. .... No one wants to flesh out these great story archs for some reason. Its always, "alright, dark Phoenix, unstoppable destruction. Action!"
I totally agree idk why they don't go the multipart route introduce jean in one movie the Phoenix in 2&3 then dark Phoenix at the end of 3& all of 4. No need to rush it when you can milk it like the cash cow it is.
There’s a reason for it: that space stuff is way to convoluted just to explain the Phoenix Force
Haven't been this heart broken and let down by a comic book movie since BvS.
And even that was slightly better in the ultimate edition.
Am I the only one that loved this movie? Watched it after WandaVision in 2021.
I just watched it, it's average. Not quite as bad a Jeremy puts it, I'm more in Stuckman's camp with this one. It's just disappointing.
@@Akeldama9 Yeah, the weird thing about Jeremy’s take is that it is build on the misconception that Jean is suppose to be the villain of the story. It seems that never read the Dark Phoenix Saga because Jean was never of the of the comic. It is mainly about her psychologically unraveling and being manipulated by the Hellfire Club. The movie does the same thing but with those aliens.
Ever noticed the parallels between the movie and the show?
@@agentofchaos7456 no THE TRAILERS AND PRODUCTION INDICATE (AND IN MOST COMIC RUNS, INC THE PHOENIX RISES) JEAN IS THE VILLAIN... THE FILM WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAST FILM AND JUST MADE A ALT STORY THAT WENT INTO A SOLO PLACE.
@@SB992REBORN I’ve read the comics and that is not what the first trailer suggested. Only the post-delay trailer depicted Jean as the villain to mislead people.
"Not better than X-men Origins: Wolverine"
Big Oof...
One25 more like ouch
@@cedricexquisite1999 More like. THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE!!
wtf does oof mean?
that saying a lot considering what they did to gambit and Deadpool in that movie.
I_Am_Dragoon no that’s not a lot of damage stfu
Jeremy jahn is trending on Twitter atm. I see why
the death of film criticism
Bboi Black how?
@Justin Tada Because of this review? I'd be surprised if it were, his is hardly a controversial opinion.
cormano64 because everyone agrees with him on this review.
@@justintada3342 Ok, I guess. He sure deserves the visibility, so that's a plus.
what was the scott's line that was bad? referred by chris stuckmann review of this.
"Not as good as X-men Orgins Wolverine"
Huh...
Darius Jackson i NEVER expected to hear that sentence
@@leguan278 lol I'm just gonna assume his emotions made him say it. Because whew. Like it wasnt as good as it should have been but it far from horrible even more far from Wolverine origins.
1. Logan
2. Days of Future's Past
3. X2
4. X-Men: First Class
5. Don't care any more.
X1 is great and started the new generation of superhero movies
X2 is an underrated classic
Mustakrakish16 exactly
GeoffDaCow
I wouldn't exactly call it underrated. It has always been very well regarded.
@RushEffect X1 hasn’t aged too well is the only thing. Heaps of early 2000s cliches and the film making feels amateurish compared to modern superhero media
Producers:So should we end with a banger or make the movie shit because Disney owns our company now?
Directors:Yes
Caught LtRt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Reshoots and delays ruiend the movie, both fox and disney is to blame for this. What a shame, we got 4 bad superhero movies out of 4 this year, what a fucking shame.
Which is stupid because Disney owns Marvel and all those movies were great. Stupid move. 🙄😒
They should’ve learnt from the MCU the MCU continued to do the best they can to create good movies even when Disney took over. The same applies for Star Wars Disney took over and Star Wars was like: welp time to destroy the franchise.
Caught LtRt It's funny because the producer is the director.
The DARK PHOENIX movie just svcked azz
“And this movie actually had some garbage!”
- A controversial yet brave man
Knew it was bad as soon as I saw the thumbnail. 😂
Yep
He gave it awesometacular
As soon as you saw the trailer
@@niccolomachiavelli3907 lol
I knew it was bad since the first trailer
Damn! First GoT season 8 and now Dark Phoenix. Sophie Turner can't catch a break.
She's hot though, so she's got that going for her
I think she did a good job in both. It's not her fault.
Glad Endgame wasn't disappointing
Arnold Patterson Ramsay Bolton was breaking her off something serious not too long ago lol
Tia Aaron
That is also true.
You give the best movie reviews ever!!!!!! This is arguably your best so far!!!! 😂😂😂
at around 1h 14 mins) The subway train crashing through the wall behind Magneto is a real train on a hydraulic rig. It was supposed to stop a few feet further back but travelled further than intended, knocking down some ceiling tiles very close to Michael Fassbender. Fassbender, ever the professional, didn't even flinch and the shot made it into the finished film.
One thing I noticed is this film is set in 1992, like 30 years after First Class yet most of them look entirely the same. Raven and Hank will probably supposed to be in their mid-late 50s, Magneto and Charles in their 60s or even early 70s. They didn't even care lol
No they rebooted the time because of days of future past
@@reed2144
There is one thing you aren't getting, and its the fact in this series in this timeline. Erik, Raven and Charles were all born in the early 1930's since they were teens in 1944.
So let's say that they were born in 1932 and first class was set in 1962 meaning they were 30 in that you following?
Days of Future past was set in 1973 11 years after that which would make them 41 again without really ageing to much.
Then you have apocalypse set in 1983 and 10 years after dofp which would make them 51 years old in that movie with almost no signs of ageing.
Then you have this movie set in 1992 9 years after that and 30 years since first class. Meaning in this movie they are 60 years old.
Yet they still look like they are 30 years old which makes no sense and it's not natural and it makes the one in charge of this movie and writer of the series look like he does not care at all.
All they had to was subtle changes throughout the movie and series to make it look like they were ageing then it would have made more sense but they didnt do and given whose writing this crap it does not surprise me at all given his track record.
@@reed2144 First Class which was set in 1962 still happened in their timeline. They even address it in the film.
Yup. Sloppy writing, stupid ideas, and terribly spoiled actors with lawyers and agents.
@@Silenthitman44 I dont get the Jake Crawler, Jake McCoy and Jake Xavier joke can someone please explain
Damn he removed his jacket...Jeremy is really serious on this one
This man has been doing movie reviews since I was born.
I honestly didn't mind the movie too much, the last train sequence was brilliant. When Jean takes the wood out from under Quicksilvers feet and she's just staring at him, that was a cool moment. I do agree though, some R rated Dark Phoenix action would have done it
The train sequence was easily the best part of the film. It was exciting, well-choreographed and it gave every mutant a moment to shine. And what makes it even more shocking was evidently, the entire scene was added in reshoots to replace the original finale.
If the rest of the film had even half the energy and creativity of the train sequence, it would have been a perfectly good, solid film. But for me, it was just too little, too late.
Jeremy Jahns is doing memes now. Okay.
No, but really, even worse than Origins? Damn.
My same reaction lol
Apocalypse and last stand are the worse one tbh
Logan is the only xmen movie of note and that was by being as removed as it could be in tone and content from the rest of the franchise as possible.
20 years and maybe an OK first movie and one solid entry. Damn.
And this is why I watch Jeremy. Bad time successfully avoided
blumusdu Ill still watch, just gonna wait till its a 1080rip lol
Yep. Luckily I have an AMC stubs membership so this won't cost me anything. I'll just watch it for completion sake. It's the end of an awful Fox xmen era and I just wanna see it the shit show so that I'm well informed when I criticize it
blumusdu 🐑
....... and good times no alcohol required
What kind of idiot depends on another person to make choices for them? What a fucking idiot this "blumusdu" is
Marvel studios: ...Are you finished?
Fox:... yeah...
Marvel Studios: Are you done?
I actually liked Dark Phoenix better than XMen 3 imo
"And this movie actually does have so g...arbage."
Love it. =D
"Perfect send-off for the X-Men movies."
Jeremy: *I'M ABOUT TO END THIS MAN'S WHOLE CAREER*
WTF
arin leoczko what career? What career?
@@ericalbright8371 Emma Watts, the woman who said Dark Phoenix would be the "perfect send-off for our X-Men team"
@@arinleoczko1250 Emma is a dude?
@@ericalbright8371 r/wooooosh
Just my humble opinion:
Deadpool > Deadpool 2 > X-Men: Days of Future Past > The Wolverine > X-Men: First Class > X2 > X-Men > Logan (they killed him😭) >>> X-Men: Apocalypse > X-Men Origins: Wolverine > X-Men 3: The Last Stand >>>>>>>>>>> Dark Phoenix
Dude! As a whole, any other X-MEN movie is better than Dark Phoenix!!
Bros, definitely DARK PHOENIX is the worst movie of the X-Men and by far.
The DARK PHOENIX movie just svcked azz
@@tukulitosakayama5663 Its real title was "X-W0m3n: F3m4l3 F0rc3d" 🤘😎🤘
Hell yeah, dudes! Watching it is like a boring chore that you can not get rid off!! 😑
SJU's Honest Trailers Commentaries is an absolutely hilarious review of this movie. I rewatch it every couple of months for a good laugh. 🤣
I’ve watched that. I think those guys have only watched the animated version because they seem clueless about Jean/Phoenix’s history in the comics.
I've been waiting for that observation, Jean DEFINITELY had the pheonix power in apocalypse, that's how she incinerated him...
It's pretty much standard treatment of continuity of the Fox X-Men franchise though.
I haven't seen the film but going off the trailer I was under the impression that Xavier put the mental blocks in her head to keep the Phoenix away and the energy shit in space she absorbed destroyed those blocks inside her
It’s as if they didn’t watch the movie somehow...
LOL, he even rated it lower than Fant4stic. That's bad
I thought it was better than Fantastic 4
Magneto is a beast 💪
Fan4stic was much worse than this
Because after some amount of years, your analytical skills will remain the same, right?
I think it's more of the expectation of both films. Like lets be honest here, nobody really had any expectations or thought that Fan4stic was gonna be good. But for the x-men franchise, you have at least some possible good past movies, as well as a really good story already there.
@@valhallacomes definitely right
3:18 that Office Space reference though lol
just finished watching all of them for the first time... this one is no where near the worst
The original storyline is not even about Jean being a villain. Jeremy really doesn’t known what he is talking about.
I just finished watching them for the first time and it's absolutely the worst.
Disney after Apocalypse: *IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO?!?*
Fox: *releases Dark Phoenix*
Us: You had to ask..
Wiizardii I understood that reference.
Ethan Sanguinet i understood that reference
I shouldn't asked 😥😭
🤣Nice!!
I liked apocalypse. Just could've been a little better.