Michael Jordan | No. 3 | Nick Wright's Top 50 NBA Players of the Last 50 Years
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- In today’s episode, Nick reveals his third greatest player of the last 50 years, Michael Jordan. Considered by many to be the greatest player of all time, Nick makes the case for Jordan at #3. This one could get pretty controversial, so let Nick know your thoughts in the comments!
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This video was the whole reason this series became a thing.
Because people forget what his career looked like?
@@GIGAFAT3 because nick's whole schtick is that michael jordan is the most overrated player ever. He wants to make a statement by putting him not just second behind lebron, but 3rd.
This list is a joke
@@Joes35 or say something meaningful
@@spartanmsufan1 or it’s just…genuinely his opinion…lmao
I knew he was gonna slight Jordan at 3 but I’m still shocked he did it 😂🤦🏾♂️
it wouldn't have been Nick if Jordan wasn't 3 lol. who knows, Kareem could be #1.
@@Kruppt808 keep dreaming lebron
I’m A LeBron fan big-time but I would never slight Jordan like he just did this is outrageous
Bc he's a goof lol
Seems like people have more of a problem with Nick ranking Jordan at 3 then skip rating LeBron at 9…
Thank you Nick. When Jordan announces his return to basketball next season it'll be because he took this video personal.
Perfect 🤣
I would love if he did lol
😂😂😂😂😂… the best comment ever
Jordan Is 60 so personal to him is taking his 1 A day & golfing ⛳
@@teresa-oj9rq you took a joke and try to make a serious comment. Smh
I already had Jordan as the clear GOAT, but after watching this I’m even more convinced. I am wondering if Nick even listened to the numbers he read in all those playoffs, absolutely off the charts.
Right! Hes making the case for Jordan lol
lebrons misses the playoffs that's ok for nick he makes no sense at all
@@ricardolozano5356 Exactly! And I remember him saying that we ”dismiss the numbers because they are so overwhelming in LeBrons favor”, but like it’s actually overwhelming in Jordans favor.
@@eliaswielgaard what was Jordan doing in year 19? If u don't gtfoh
@@sportstalkonly1442 He was chilling at home watching the playoffs, just like LeBron
I love how Nick uses Longevity as the sole reason for putting Kareem and Lebron over Jordan, but then puts Luka who has only played 4 seasons over John Stockton who is the definition of longevity, all time assists and steals leader.. keep your hypocrisies in order Nick.. you’re a laughing stock
@2682shark
Say what you want but if you were to make a Top 50 players in the last 50 years list, your list wouldn't have been accurate either.
@@MistahUnknown it’s not about being accurate it’s about being consistent. Which he never was, if he cared about longevity then he wouldn’t have magic 4th over Duncan or Kobe. The Luka in any top list all time at this point if his career is dumb also.
@@Nooblet92Ca I agree with what you're saying but not with that example. 12 years is by no definition a short career. The careers of Kareem, LeBron, Kobe, Vince, Tim are outliers, not the norm. 12 years is a healthy amount of time, not lacking in longevity
Shot up
Great point! He also said, contradictorily, that LEbron would still be the greatest even if you erased everything he did from Dallas going back to his first year. No cap! He said you could just use his years from 2012 until like 2020! But he is going to put Kareem second to LeBron??? Kareem is the definition of longevity and has done far more in less time, than LeBron. So by his logic, Kareem should beat LeBron out for the top spot.
I knew he was gonna do it and I still can't believe he did it.
I'm shocked at three. I felt like he'd put LeBron at three and then be like "hey if he wins more titles keeps playing he will keep going up"
The balls. I love it
I knew he was gonna put him at 3 too 😂 bron 2 and Kareem
@@calvinware7957 he's been saying LeBron is the GOAT since 2016, so it wouldn't make sense if he put him anywhere except #1
@@pdfbanana I still think he is going to put Kareem at 1 for the controversy
Micheal Jordan prime was so ridiculous 😂😂😂
So was Magic
@@IWannaUnaliveMyself man had kareem and james worthy
@@caliwavy8636 Kareem averaged 18 and 8, 14 and 4 the last two finals runs.
And Magic won 2 titles without Worthy.
Meanwhile Jordumb as MGay as he could be had Rodman and Pippen
@@caliwavy8636 SOOO 😅😅😅
This the first video where I feel like Nick is arguing AGAINST someone's greatness, although subtly.
I don't think it's subtle lol.
Jordan is unquestionably the GOAT by far… LeCHOKE is arguably not in the top five. And I’m a Detroit Pistons fan.
@@kingtrawal I'm also a Detroit Pistons fan and I think LeBron is the GOAT. It goes to show how subjective these things are
@@kingtrawal Lebron hasnt even passed Kobe yet. And theres many NBA greats who say so as well
@@sokit2em There’s also many NBA greats that say LeBron is better than Jordan, so that doesn’t really mean anything.
I would love to see a full show of him and skip having a Goat debate.. nearly 2 opposites of the same coin lmao
Skip doesn't debate like this. He acts very upset that anyone dare have the opposing opinion, and then just talks about his gut feelings and his equivalent of tarot card readings- clutch genes!
They did it once when Chris Carter was on the show I think
@@bjensen lol well that’ll be equally entertaining because Shannon tries not to make skip look stupid and call out the same 3 points he uses to talk down a player.. nick wouldn’t mind it…
@@tylerfisher9741 He uses facts that specifically help his argument and pops in a few half truths. The real truth is Jordan was better on O and D, Bron took 1000 more minutes to get to Jordans Steals, offensive rebounds(the important ones not the ones Brons big men let him grab) and points. It's hard to say Bron is better at anything outside of playmaking and longevity, maybe 3 shooting but it's a toss up as most believe Jordan could have been better if he required it.
Fox will not allow Nick to challenge Skip. It will be WW3 if he goes against "The Franhase". Nick tells you how ridiculous everybody's take on LeBron is EXCEPT for his biggest hater. The network is not having any of that.
Skip better be the caller 😂😂😂
Nah he hates Nick. They won’t even appear on television together
Skip wears jordan underwear when he and ernestine are together
Micheal Geoffrey Jordan is the GOAT. Never went to game 7. Lmao I can imagine his voice and pounding the table.
@@mmx2marioo Michael Jeffrey * its not spelled that horrible way
😂😂😂😂
Seeing Jordan ranked third is so surreal to me. It's really insane
It's too high. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird were better team players. Wilt Chamberlain is the goat. Oscar is the most complete. I got Jordan at 5 or 6
@@IWannaUnaliveMyself
@@IWannaUnaliveMyself might actually be the worst bait I've ever seen
@@pemp9606 lmaooooo
Anything other than 1 is surreal to me
I love you Nick, but the when you described Jordan putting up epic numbers and his team still losing, and you calling out the current media for how hypothetically they might treat him today, I immediately thought of how you regularly bash Jokic because his team doesn't get far in the playoffs despite him putting up great numbers. I don't think that is very fair of you.
Nick isn’t a Jokic hater, he only has beef with people on Twitter who think Jokic is the greatest statistical player ever. Also Jokic wasn’t close to his own standards in these past playoffs
@@samkole4774 his statswere insane
@@samkole4774 Jokic is the best passing big man EVER now he probably shouldn't of won MVP last season but his impact on court is immense
I'm a huge fan of Nick but his Jokic takes are the single worst thing about him.
Nick said Denver would best clippers in 2020 when no one believed in the joker. He also had jokic second and fourth in MVP ; hardly crazy hating takes
This list means nothing when you have Luka Doncic at #20 lmao
It was a salute to shaq's inclusion... I don't agree on Shaq's inclusion then and I'm not with it for Luca. But that's gotta be taken account for
@@maxwellgrant124 Have him at #50 then not 20
@@jamaali2358 I wouldn't have him on the list at all, I'm just saying given his reason... I find it wrong to write off a very thought out list, most of which I can get behind
@@maxwellgrant124 His excuse can skate by if he had him at #50 but at 20 his list should be thrown in the trash
@@jamaali2358 dont cry now
Jordan's scoring ability was insane right out the gate!
Should have just said at the start " btw folks, we're going to count longevity above all else"
More rings
More fmvps
More mvps
More stls titles
1 dpoy
More defensive first teams
More scoring titles
Highest ppg in regular/post in history
Highest PER in regular/post in history
Highest VORP avg in history
Highest Bpm in history
All this in less time than your number 1 player. 🤷🏾♂️
He played against fishermen and plumbers
@@Soldier979
Dominique wilkins
Ewing
Hakeem
Shaq
Bird
Magic
Isiah
Penny
Hill
Drexler
Tim hardaway
Alonzo mourning
R.Miller
David robinson
Charles barkley
C.webb
Malone
He literally played in the last era of big men
@@Soldier979 y’all weirdos didn’t start saying this until Nick Wright & others alluded to this to make LeBrons case better…
@@Soldier979 Lebron played against guys who sit out whole seasons while getting paid millions, guys who think the Earth is flat, guys who flop when someone's hands don't touch them and guys who take games off because some people run into the capitol building.
@@terryf3282 don’t make it seem like Lebron has just been playing bums who are soft. He’s dominated this era and he could’ve definitely played with the players in the 80s and 90s
An important thing to note about that 1989 series vs Detroit. Jordan lost in 6 yes, but he also singlehandly have Detroit their only 2 losses in the ENTIRE PLAYOFFS. Pistons swept in round one, swept in round 2 AND swept in the finals vs showtime lakers. That’s an underrated achievement by jordan
That’s less of an achievement than LeBron in 2017. That Warriors team was the only team to go 16-1, their one loss being to Lebron in the Finals.
Not just that but the two years that the bad boy Pistons won championships the Bulls were the only team to give them a challenge in the playoffs, obviously it's not a victory but by The metrics of this list
@@storminmormn6283 that loss came when the cavs were alreayd down 3-0, it wasn’t a competitive series at all.
Groin injury plus guarding isiah thomas
@@storminmormn6283 Kyrie led the Cavs with 40 points. Lebron had 31
Guys stop being jerks. This in no way shape or form makes the list invalid. That already happened when he didn't put Jokic on because he only had 4 great seasons/no finals appearances/only past round 2 once; but he decided to put Luka 20.
Facts lmao, Nick is and always has been a clown
Bro isn't Luka like the only under 30 player on the list? Chill out lmao you taking things personal. He's just infatuated with Luka has nothing to do with his dislike of jokic.
@@dominicannick read the reasoning for why he doesn't have Jokic again.
@@dominicannick I mean..Jokic has 2 MVPs and Luka has none. Don't know how Luka makes the list but Jokic doesn't. Jokic has gone pass the 1st round more times than Luka. I wish Nick would just do the list and say "These are my opinions." But trying to throw in facts and discounting others shoots his credibility.
Luka hasn't made it to the finals, and has 0 MVPs. He's a great young player, but he needs to get some accolades before being so high on a list like this.
Hearing the numbers Jordan put up convinced me he is #1 😂
Yup. And on top of having better numbers and accolades there's also the good old "eye test". Watching Jordan was entertainment at it's finest. People who weren't even basketball fans would tune in only to watch Jordan. He made the sport go global...And it's because he wasn't just good, he was out of this world.
Wait until he puts up the other numbers. It ain’t over yet
@@axvoves1 you can wait but their numbers don't stack up to MJ's
I think this series is best served for entertainment and a bit of an NBA history lesson deep diving on players entire career. Several moments, today included, I've strongly disagreed with Nick, but I still appreciate the monstrous amount of research and time that has gone into this.
That research has all gone to waste. It was a very good list, that has all become an actual joke unfortunately with this take.
@@bretditty858 nah, just one persons thoughts and opinions. We still gonna watch 2 and 1. You want it to be better? you make a top 50 list and tell us why for each player.
I can’t accuse Nick of hating on old guys since he did such a great job on the 70’s and 80’s legends. Jordan # 3? I strongly disagree with his take but I also have to say basketball is the only sport where we judge guys on career peak + averages instead of total accomplishments. So the top 3 or 4 guys are probably closer than we think.
@@MrBimirud nah we also judge guys in total accomplishments every guy in the the top 10 has amazing resumes the reason Jordan’s the GOAT is because he has the greatest resume
How is it a history lesson if the history teacher is this incredibly biased?
I already thought Jordan was the Greatest but after hearing these stats LeBron has no chance of catching Him. Also keep in mind that He averaged 33.4 pts in the playoffs in the era (90s) where the average score was 97 pts per game.
@Raymond Sims lmao he's top 7-8 bro stop being delusional.
That's a myth, Average league score was 101 from 1990-1999.. 2000-2010 actually had a lower game score of 96.9
Lebronsexual 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@chrisrobinson8784 That's for the regular season the average score for the playoffs in the 90s was 97 pts, for the 2000s it was 94.5 and 2010s it was 99.7.
And no one in history averaged more points in the playoffs or the regular season for their career than Jordan.
Actually no one averages more than 30 pts in the playoffs with Him, except Luka who only played in 28 playoff games compared to Jordan's 179 playoff games.
@@diegochavez6203 if we have MLS questions we’ll ask u bro
Anyone who watches Nick Wright on FS1 knows he’s doing this out of spite to Jordan. Just listen to how he talks about the Jordan documentary.
its really not that serious. take it down a notch, its list season and this is Nick list of NBA greats.
@@Kruppt808 you in every reply calm down Mama Wright
I didn't like the documentary
You're not wrong. Nick even openly stated part of his motivation is to strike back against Jordan. His placement is propaganda.
Undermining the 3peat and how rare and hard it is and he did 2 of the 4 EVER accomplished in NBA history!
And he only had to quit the sport to do it
He would’ve won like 8 straight if he didn’t retire
@@nickmorante7295 no he wouldn’t have they would have loss to Hakeem when they loss Horace grant . Stop it
@@nickmorante7295 he literally lost in 95
@@nickmorante7295 I know some people won’t believe this because the tapes have been burned but he did lose in 1995…
Despite what people agree with or disagree with I think we can all appreciate Nick's Fandom of the league. I have learned so much about all of these players on this list. And I appreciate that.
Really he just reads off stats and states a few highlight games and moments, anyone can do that with 5 mins research ... nick is clown man
@@bobbyd1632 So he is a clown because he gives an opinion you must want him to die to as well millennial generation is so toxic this generation is nothing compared to the baby boomer generation and I'm millennial and I'm disgusted with my generation purely utterly disgusted I'm a Micheal Jordan fan to fullest and I thinks he is number but I think Nick can has right to have opinion and shouldn't be killed or badly scrutinized over an opinion but that's what Millennials do right lol
@@bobbyd1632 just because somebody has an opinion you don't agree with doesn't make them a clown. You need to grow up buddy.
@@aaronboone8097 oh no Nick is a clown
@@mrhoward19801 that clown makes millions more than you so I really can’t figure out why you talking?
This is fine, I’m actually looking forward more to Nick destroying Broussard and Wilds about Jimmy G tomorrow 😂
Jimmy g taking whatever team he joins to the playoffs
@@epr0smith lmao even if it's the Seahawks or the giants?
Jimmy G-Q options are Seahawks, giants, maybe Miami when tua turndaballova gets hurt again, and Detroit.
nick destroying bahahahaha
Nick should extend this series by having two or three list sharing sessions / debates with someone who can Justify at least 5 changes.
i would pay anything to see nick vs skip maybe a combo of skip and nick vs skip and brussard
@@JP-vz7fs that’s why I said at least 5, because that one would be too easy.
@@saber9876 skips list is one of the worst top 10’s I’ve ever heard it’d be amazing to watch😂 but Broussard’s would def be a much better debate
@@saber9876 nick wiped the floor with Skip on Undisputed 5-6 years ago. He is yet to return to undisputed since then😂
@@kero2526 lmao yeah but obviously skip doesn’t feel that way and now nick has more ammo since the ring and the clippers debacle but part of it is that Nick lives and does his show in nyc not la
From the very start of his career his playoff stats were absolutely insane. Would be mind blowing even in todays faster paced, offensive nba
When he debut the pace was the same as today
80s have a similar pace to today's NBA his numbers would be similar
I have to give it to Nick… He’s pretty smart… He knows this will be a massive talking point putting Jordan at #3… We all know it’s for clicks and is a ratings grab, but hey it’s going to work and First Things First will have something to talk about during this lull of an off-season
While I don’t necessarily hate Nick’s choices for the list thus far. You’re absolutely right lol
Plus, he’s done the research and presents all evidence. Whether or not you agree with his conclusions, it’s impossible to deny the work. To all the people saying the list is trash…give me an actual argument as a rebuttal, not emotion.
Why are we applauding Nick for clout chasing? It’s not that smart a 5th grader can troll to get views
he actuall put TWO people ahead of Jordan🤣😂🤣😂
Not really I knew what he was going to do it was predictable..Nobody outside of bron friends take him seriously
Im just here for the comments tbh lol, also I definitely think yall dropped the ball not having Skip for Jordan given you guys both work at Fox. Shannon BETTER be there for Lebron. 🤐
That fangirls opinions are irrelevant to any real basketball discussion tho
Skip's not that social, but I'm sure Unk will be there for "GOAT JAMES"
Skip hates Nick with a passion
Nah they the undercard and skip and Shannon the main card lmao they only associate with Broussard
Why would we want to hear Skip? We already know what he's going to say because he says it everyday.
It’s still just looks so wrong to not have Jordan at least in the top 2
Its a complete joke when Nick starts doing his own method. (Playoff game by playoff game stats.) That he doesnt have jordan number 1 in a landslide.
@@bretditty858 so you'd rather have a guy that does less in every metric huh? Now that's a hot take
Kareem and Jordan should be ahead of Lebron metrically. The stats don't lie....... Jordan is the Greatest star to ever play the game... Kareem was that dude since pee wee, go look it up. Go look up Kareem UCLA bruins, go look up his Milwaukee Bucks title, stop it. LeBron had literally surpassed Michael in most stats........... that being said it's an eye test and Jordan was the nicest thing since suade.
Ya ll never seen Jordan play lol
@@ju9330 I'm 30. I didn't watch him play in his prime like i did Kobe....but i have seen just about every Michael Jordan documentary and seen just about every regular season highlight and playoff triumph...... it isn't hard to find them.
I'm actually not convinced that Nick believes this take. I think it's entirely possible that as a savvy young man looking to stand out in a highly competitive field, he reasoned that taking Lebron over Jordan as the greatest of all-time would be a good way to grab attention and gain notoriety. Likewise, I think placing Jordan third on this list is most likely simply the latest calculated move toward that end. Nick's too smart to actually buy what he's selling here (it's just frankly such an indefensible take), but he's also smart enough to know that his job isn't about being right, it's about being viewed.
“Looking to stand out” he’s already at the top of his field he doesn’t need to lie to stand out
@@MidxCity I was referring to when he was younger and just beginning his career. At that point he definitely needed to find a way to stand out, and even at this point, he still needs to get views. I'm not upset with him about it - it's smart. I'm simply not convinced he really does believe it.
He's openly said on First Take that part of his motivation for all of this was to fight back against the pro-Jordan "propaganda" as he called it. He's literally making anti-Jordan propaganda because he hates pro-Jordan propaganda. 🙃
you made his entire point by saying it’s an “in defendable take”😭🤦🏻♂️y’all sheep
@@zwoptf Though I wouldn't agree with it, one could at least make the case for Lebron being #1 and Jordan #2. But to have Jordan behind Kareem... I mean, that is an indefensible take. That's literally the first time I've ever heard that. Remember as well that most of the people who were calling Jordan the greatest at the time had also just seen Kareem play. It's not like people back then were calling Jordan the greatest and there was this huge backlash of others saying, "Now hold on. We can't forget about Kareem." It's been taken for granted that Jordan was better than Kareem at least since Jordan won his 6th ring, and maybe before that.
Nick Wright made a 50 player list for the sole purpose of putting Jordan at #3. It's an elaborate troll-job, and shouldn't be seen as anything else.
That and to put Luka in it as well
Not having Iguodala in the top 3 basically invalidates this whole list
fate of the universe on the line
Jordan fans would complain putting Iggy that high only helps LBJ who snatched his soul with that block.
@@Kruppt808 lol JR gets 1/4 credit for that block if you watch the play properly (not through a Bronny lens)
JJ Barea is number 1 on the list
@@Kruppt808 Iggy won finals mvp
Nick said several years ago that people lose credibility when they put multiple players ahead of Lebron, because
“no Lebron supporter is so disrespectful, to put anyone except Jordan at number 2”
but did you listen to why he's 3rd. because that's the argument your afraid of.
@@morgonwallace2277
Oh geee whiz you’re right I’m so terrified of this video I just can’t imagine the horrors. I watched the video. If you’re really thinking this list is credible after the Luka and this spot, then you’re simply delusional.
@@bretditty858 sure you can say that, but ill need an explanation. if you think jordan deserves to be higher then you add credibility to the luka take. Jordan has less accolades and playoff appearances than most of the top 7.
@@morgonwallace2277 So how many championships does your favorite player have and Jordan won championships 6 out of 15 years what did your guy do I'll wait
@@terrencerobinson try thinking harder please
In my list of the top 500 sports analysts of the last 10 years, Nick Wright made the list at #376.
6 championships - Most since the 3 point line was created
6 final MVPs - Most in NBA history
10- scoring titles - most in NBA history
9 first team defense - most in history
DPOY
46 mins of facts supporting his list. Most people won’t listen objectively before disagreeing, which is a shame. This series is incredibly well done. Looking forward to the next 2 videos!
Help me out man ‘objectively’ how is Nick right on this
LMAO you cannot use objective and Nick Wright in the same sentence. Even his colleagues knows, and anyone with a working brain knows he's not objective, especially when it comes to LeBron and the Chiefs.
I mean even nick himself said he had the best prime it really is what do you value more longevity or peak dominance
literally 46 minutes of him proving why Jordan's the best smh
@@mikeredmond9193 gotta take both imo. The goat has to of had an amazing peak but also have the longevity.
This is horrible… man said Kareem is better then Jordan then listed a whole bunch of accolades that would support the argument for greatest CARRER (resume) of all time not PLAYER. 87% of the reasons he said Kareem is better then Jordan CAN BE APPLIED TO LEBRON JAMES. But since we are going by resumes LUKA SHOULDNT EVEN SNIFF THIS LIST…(Listed #20). Oh but it’s a project, well if we are doing projections WHERE IS JOKIC?????? It’s not the fact the he has Jordan at 3 but the INCONSISTENCY he has in reasons why players are ranked where they are.
He did it, goddamit it he really did it 😂 😂
Just for the views for sure he does not believe it
I’m sure he does and he is 100% correct
@@andrephillips7764 if you think this is correct, you should stop watching basketball
@@andrephillips7764 he is not 100% correct, you just can't think for yourself lmao
@@Joes35 not everyone is going to drink the Jordan koolaid , I don’t drink the koolaid , I don’t have Jordan as the goat , but I don’t have Lebron either , I have Kareem in that spot
I knew Nick would do this in an attempt to diminish Jordan, it actually further weakens his argument for LeBron as number 1 (who we all know he's listing).
Jordan has TEN SCORING TITLES, which is the most ever and won 7 consecutive. Which is also the most ever. His dominance as a scorer even surpasses Wilt as he's the regular and post seasons all-time leader in career PPG. He has more championships, Finals MVPs, regular season MVPs, Defensive team selections, more steals titles, a DPoY award, and led the Bulls to the first three-peat of the modern era (did it twice). Even the advance metrics say Jordan is the greater player. Lastly, no single player in league history had a greater global impact on the sport of Basketball than Michael Jordan. It's not even debatable.
But this guy does the Nick Wright thing and list Jordan #3 in the last 50 years.
The list is a propaganda piece and it’s a joke overall. We all love Nick here but this is laughable. He knows lebron isn’t the goat on his own merits so he has to devalue Jordan to make it seem lebron is.
He is trying to create controversy if he puts Jordan at number 1 noone would care
Someone who knows basketball
You’re right but most guys prefer the players they grew up watching. So for me it’s Jordan, for younger guys it’s Kobe or LeBron. My dad and my uncle still debate Wilt vs. Russell. Dad prefers Wilt (he saw him play in person many times) and my uncle swears by Russell. That’s usually how it goes.
@@MrBimirud I grew up watching Kareem, Magic, Larry into Jordan, into Iverson, Kobe & love some good LeBron who I have at number 2 all time. Anybody in their right mind cannot put a single player above Jordan including accomplishments (forget the artistry which was Picasso)
This is logically consistent if you have LeBron as the Goat. Kareem and LeBron have very similar GOAT cases (longevity vs peak)- I suspect at some point this was pointed out to Nick (and was the true inspiration for the list). I also suspect that's why Shaq was behind Olaujawon earlier- logical consistency. However, this video reminded me that Jordan is the GOAT and it's not as close as it sometimes seems.
Nick has called Jordan "the 2nd greatest player ever" like a thousand times on FTF. Can't understand why he switched it up.
He probably views the gap between Kareem and Jordan super close. If it's brought up on FTF it derails the entire segment and becomes a quick 3/4 on 1. Here it's super controversial and helps the podcast. No hate, he's got a business to run.
I have clearly heard Nick say 3rd greatest ever. Also Nick mentioned in the video before this that he made a change in his top 2.
Jordan is unquestionably the GOAT by far… LeCHOKE is arguably not in the top five. And I’m a Detroit Pistons fan.
@@kingtrawal Pistons fan huh? Man must've kille you when age 22 "LeCHOKE" score 48 pts, including the last 25 for his team, in game 5 of ECF to take a 3-2 lead and eventually beat your Pistons out in 6. Man, imagine what a top 5 all time player would've done to that squad.
@@biggt0820 Trawal has been spamming the same thing across most comments on here. They're just seething mad lmao
Those early playoff stats are absolutely insane!!! Especially with the level defence that was allowed at that time. Truly insane
you should go watch those games the defense is very overstated
You need to go back and watch then, defence was mediocre until the early 90s.
Don’t confuse skill/ability with physicality. Steve Kerr himself said it you watch, for examples the Lakers/Celtics finals, it looks like no one is playing defence.
You also had illegal defences, which made 1v1 scoring far easier
@@hardwoodthought1213 it's easier to score in 1v1 situations today because the rules have eliminated certain contact that allows defenders to deter players. The opening of the court with more spacing also facilitates easier scoring. These rule changes were made specifically to increase scoring because the league wanted to increase perimeter play.
The league averages after NBA prohibited hand-checking and reinstated zone defenses were actually worse than the previous season (2005): 97.2 PPG /44.7 FG% / 106.1 DRTG & (2004): 93.4 PPG / 43.9 FG% / 102.9 DRTG.
Now, zone defense definitely makes it easier for teams to contain a single player, but the more recent NBA rules have largely aimed to increase scoring, specifically from wing and perimeter players by giving them ample freedom to move around the court unimpeded.
@@atlien1988 1v1’s were actually much easier in that era considering teams were basically not allowed to play help defense in those days. So just imagine the damage some of this current generations players would do under those rules. Not to diminish what Mike did and those numbers, they are astronomical
Defense was not better in the 80s than today. Defense was really weak in the 80s
There’s people out there who have LeBron ranked at 8 or 9 all time. It’s okay for Jordan to be at 3 by someone in the media
Nah only skip
Show me someone in the media beside skip who has him that low
@@jacksonmordente8716 Ric Bucher
@@jacksonmordente8716 I believe Kenny Smith has him somewhere in that range as well
I watched Magic, Jordan and LeBron and many other greats and I really believe the Goat debate is between Magic and Jordan
I know what you mean. Jordan was more determined in terms of competition.
Your eyes must be old ...
@@meaux-kneaux good one bro you really got him there
Magic is 4th by resume but he might beat anyone in history if the only 2 things that matter are his play vs the other player
@@bboywolf Magic is a legend and you’re right give him the right support and he’s almost unbeatable. I’ll stick with Jordan over anyone (for a number of reasons) but respect your take
Even Cap himself said "I'm not better than Jordan"
Got exactly what you wanted Nick. Content in July for you and your buddies
What he really wants is to hide in the closet while lebron does his wife
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for me kareem has the same issue as shaq magic and kobe. each of them played with another top 10-12 guy and in kareem'S case another top 5 guy which should be a factor. michael and lebron had pippen and wade as their best teammates and those are great but not even close to top 20
How is Kareem responsible for playing with Magic?
Agreed!!!
Agreed!!!
@@tyjohnson3111 he’s not responsible but it’s still a factor and contributes to his success
@@tomstorm7926 but it’s being referred to as an “issue”…meaning it must stem from something that’s responsible for it.
So if the player isn’t responsible for his team’s construction…who is? 🤷🏾♂️
A factor outside of one’s control means what exactly?
the problem is kareems 1971 bucks title doesn't even count according to the last 50 years limit. 1972 would be the cut off lol
The 2022-2023 season hasn’t started yet 🤦🏾♂️
The whole list is dumb. Why last 50yrs? Modern basketball started with the merger in '77 or when Bird and Magic were drafted in '79/'80. He basically just wanted to jump over Russell and Wilt and overrated Kareem.
The people disliking should really watch the whole vid, this is super honest about MJ's Career.
nah easier to just read someones post who watch the video and post something similar.
He is, but he's trying to push Jordan down the list, because he knows, Jordan can't be touched. He'll contextualize the He'll outta Lebrons video. Peak for Peak, Jordan crushes all competitors with his play on the floor.
Honesty hurts feelings. I personally can't take a list seriously if Jordan isn't 1 or 2, but I'm very interested to hear the argument and most importantly, I enjoy the facts about his career that are really overlooked because the only thing that ANY talking head says is that he's 6 for 6 in The Finals, as if the other years of his career didn't exist.
@@dexter_johnson The funny thing about the other years in his career is that it's equally as great, if not better than his championship winning years. 28ppg as a rookie, 63 against the Celtics, 37ppg, 35/6/6/3/2 with the DPOY and MVP, 33/8/8/3/1, 37/7/7/3/1 in the playoffs, and then he started winning championships.
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Now compare those numbers to the ones he post in the postseason going 1-9 in 3 series losses.
Even better, take the teams he face and compare them regular to postseason; then against the league average.
Nick I’m a LeBron guy lmfao, but man there’s absolutely no way Jordan can be three. Two at the absolute lowest
Lebron has a 22-33 record in the finals losing 6 of 10. His finals record is 4-6 not 🐐
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@@mozznyc LeBron has way more and way better highlights
@@D-money813 lol what
I don't get why people are so fanatics about their favorite players? I always said they are 5 players that can be called the GOAT: Jordan, Kareem, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Rusell and Lebron. Only if you have anyone outside those five, then I have a problem. The GOAT is about what you value more in basketball.
Truth 🍻
wow, a completely reasonable take. Not sure you belong in this comment section sir.
This
Excellent take.
You just keep sitting on that fence, then.
Great video Nick! Intelligent analysis as always
So the 3rd best has 6 titles in 15 years but you're going to have someone over him with 4 going into year 20 because of what all of his longevity stats lol I don't know what you are more delusional about Lebron or talking like the chiefs are some great dynasty
(And it's really 6 in 13 if we're being real)
Pippen has 6 also in that time
@@IknowMoreThanYou It's really 6 in 11 years. Year 2 broken foot +return for end season and playoffs. 95 returned for end of season and playoffs. So give him 6 in 13 with 2 asterisks
10 attempts at winning is better then 6. Can u people actually count or no.
If u cant do math just said that or shut up.
Lebron has more winning seasons
More playoffs wins
Has went further in the playoffs more times
And been to the playoffs more times period
Do some real math
One guy may quit on teams but the other guy quits on the sport
Honestly jordan should played more.
Ill settle for lebron whinning over jordan taken his ball and just going home.
@@jongee7034 WE DO ATTEMPTS AT WINNING INSTEAD OF WINNING NOW? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO YOU BRON BOIS IS HILARIOUS BOY OHHH BOY
4 times in NBA history has a player had 200 steals and 100 blocks in an NBA season. Jordan accomplished it twice and led the league in scoring both times. He WAS the best defender in the league those years and was always the best at his position while a Bull. Btw….he average 35 and 37 points those two seasons….to be that offensively relied upon and efficient AND that defensively dominant makes the defensive accomplishment even more freakish.
Who was jordan guarding ?
Uh, please stop with the best defender in the league stuff. Get by Sidney Moncrief and Gary Payton, then we'll talk. Michael Jordan went for steals and blocks trying to embarrass opponents (what bullies love). The best defenders concentrate on lowering opponents efficiency (shutting them down). by staying in front of them and not giving up easy buckets. Jordan had the talent to do that, but that is not what he consistently did. As for all the all defensive 1st teams and that DPOY award, uggh, they are mostly about popularity with the media. He is obviously one of the couple greatest players, but it wasn't because of defense.
Sadly, everything with Jordan is exaggerated/mythical. His hold on the media's imagination is astonishing. It doesn't matter what it is, they say Jordan did it better. The media voted him the greatest college player ever....hint, he isn't even top 10. I am saying this as a fan that loves Jordan's game, but he was not the best at every single aspect of basketball, and that includes defense.
@@thefourthquarter7429 if DPOY and defensive achievements is decided by the media why doesn’t lebron have more?!?! EXCUSES
@@thefourthquarter7429 absolutely immaculate breakdown. Spot on man
@@culturehub2628 because the media and the general public hate LeBron. You know that. Or at least you should. They’ve spent years trying to reach for reasons to put someone above him just in the contemporary pantheon. There was KD, there was Steph, there was Kawhi. And none of them have ever been better than LeBron. But the media just tried to trick people into thinking that, for some reason, they were. And don’t even get me started on the general public that basically reaches for the stars for reasons to hate him.
Fantastic job, Nick Wright. Don’t agree with Kareem > Michael, but now I’m intrigued to see what I’m missing when I watch Kareem’s video!
People forget during Kareem's peak that briefly Bill Walton had surpassed him as top center during the Portland's championship run and year after until Walton's injury.
And Kareem missed the playoffs. Dr.J was far more loved then he was and Doc played in a completely different league which let Kareem gobble up all those MVPs. The Knicks, Celtics, won multiple rings, Pistol Pete and Dave Thompson were more entertaining. Then Magic became the bus driver and created Showtime during Kareem peak in the early 80s.
Thats just not true. In the regular seasons Kareem averaged 8 more PPG than Walton while their other numbers were very close. In the 77 playoffs the Blazers won but Kareem absolutely dominated Walton.
Kareem: 30/16/4/1/4 on 60/78%
Walton: 19/15/6/1/2 on 50/56%
The way I see it is that Jordan was the best player on 6 championship teams, Lebron was the best on 4, and Kareem was the best on 2 or 3. And that is how and why I rank them as 1, 2 and 3.
by this logic russell is ridiculous
@@kedarram7413 Russell wasn't ever the top scorer on his teams, he had Cousy, Sam Jones etc.
@@MrDarknesstolight bruh he was by far the best player even if he wasn’t the top scorer
@@MrDarknesstolight it’s just horrible logic imo doesn’t take into account era, difficulty of title, competition
So basically MJs being penalized for squeezing so much dominance into such a short time period, and never tasting defeat on the biggest stage as many times as Kareem and Nick’s side piece LeBron 📝 👍🏾
at the start of his career, didn't win in the playoffs, 3 year prime, quit, came back and lost, 3 year prime. retired, came back with the Wizards didn't win.
he had plenty of career, just didn't win enough early and late. his prime is excellent, the rest is up and down. Like many players careers. Why bring up weird stuff into an NBA list debate? Are you projecting or something?
Even saying that Jordan still won 6/15 years, or 40% of his career, this is including his 2nd year he missed most of due to a broken foot and 95 when he came back at the tail end of the year. So the argument that he won significantly more in his career than his contemporaries still stands
By comparison, LeBron has won 4/19, or 21% of the time. Jordan basically doubled that. Kareem has won 6/20, of 30% of the time
So saying he didn’t “win enough” is just a hilariously bad take. He was more of a winner and loss less then the others
@@Kruppt808 so what side of the fence are you on?
@@Kruppt808 Jordan won before LeBron. Kareem took seven years to win championship number 2 after he won with Oscar and until magic showed up. Jordan played 13.5 full seasons only played 17 games in 1986 and 1995.
@@jackierichardson8040 nice way of making a stat work for you. How about this. Jordan went to the finals 6/15 years. Lebron went to the finals 14/19 years. See what I mean. God I hate it when people act like losing in the finals is the same as getting swept or not making it. No it’s not.
Kareem wasn't even the main guy in most of the rings he won so he can't be ahead of Jordan. He got carried by Magic later in his career
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So, the 3rd best player on the list has more finals MVP and season MVPs than the guys on the top 2 spots. Not to mention more scoring titles, and 9 all defensive teams including a DPOY. Yeah, that makes sense. 🤪
Less all NBA teams tho that's the real proof of greatness MVPs are always slighted and wrong Kobe and Shaq only got 1 a piece all NBA is the best players period and first teams at that and scoring titles are for scorers if your game is all around you won't lead scoring or assist because your top 3 at both but I get it you're a Jordan guy
@@countryrah bro ALL-NBA’s ARE LONGEVITY ACHIEVEMENTS. BUT, This is who has the best career…it’s just who’s better which makes this list AWFUL…
Great list thus far 🐐🐐
Actually Kareem may be #1 . He has had the most complete basketball career off all time
Easily
@@senchodaroola1of1 him and Tim duncan
Won at every single level before the NBA and won without Magic. People are entitled to choose someone else, but should never have a emotional response if someone says Kareem is the best ever
lebron is not number 1 anyone but lebron lebron choked In the finals
Nobody should have Kareem over Magic. Magic was the best player on that team in 4 out of 5 of their championship seasons. Kareem won all but one of his league MVPs before the merger, while the second best player in the world was winning championships in another league.
Kareem is the only player in history with an accolades sheet that looks anywhere close to MJs, but it took him 20 years to accomplish nearly the same amount as Jordan did while having the benefit of most of his top shelf accolades coming pre-merger with less competition.
Kareem is great, but he's slightly overrated as it is. He's not the GOAT.
Hey Nick, you need to add this to Jordan’s lore, after beating the Piston’s in ‘91 4-0, (and breaking the “Jordan Rules”) the Pistons refused to shake hands!! Also, I’m hearing longevity is where LeBron is beating Jordan. However, is it Jordan”s fault for Winning a National Championship, being a NCAA player of the year and winning the Olympics BEFORE coming to the NBA?
I agree...no one ever mentions his college yrs
I think it’s strictly NBA career. If you bring up college then Kareem goes to the top of the list.
Exactly, since LeBron and Kareem played longer, they're better. They played longer and still can't touch his stats. Kareem has 6 rings but 5 are from Magic.
@@ramoncruz2453 I agree 100%
@@jlsmith-hs8rf 5 are from magic. Doesn’t mention Scotty pippen Dennis Rodman or Phil Jackson. Ok buddy
He went there. Don't agree, but I respect it. Way to guarantee those views Nick. 😂 #EvenNickDontBelieveThisIsh
Dude grew hair and thinks he'd colin cowher all of a suddem
Whatchu mean he don’t believe it? He just explained why for 40 mins. Kareem does have better resume than Jordan. It’s not that crazy
@@redclxxd5974 lol stop dont tell lies to yourself
@@elvangulley3210 and if you have something more to contribute make your case. snarky replies doesn't do anything. Be the man in the arena.
@@redclxxd5974 Kareem's resume is very close to MJ's but it's not better (and Kareem played 7 more seasons)
I’m fine w bron #1, honestly even after watching him thru my childhood and longest prime ever, I still look at Jordan’s peak as different and untouchable, but Kareem I can’t do, playing with #4 magic Johnson on this list so many of their accomplishments coincide w one another, and honestly I give some more credit to magic as he stepped in and changed the whole atmosphere around the lakers
By being the 2nd All NBA teammate Kareem had in 20 years? The Lakers pre-Magic (76’-79’) had one lone All Star in Kareem…and that’s it.
Magic won the '80 and '82 and '87 Finals MVPs. Kareem only won one with the Lakers even though It was clearly Kareem's team till about '85.
Greatness and better career is two different things. Putting yourself in easy situations to boost your career accomplishments is not equal to greatness. For me, Kobe and Jordan are greater people/players. Lebron on the other hand probably is better than Kobe, but not even close to his greatness.
@@klariskb4497 How are any of them responsible for their situations?
Jordan is unquestionably the GOAT by far… LeCHOKE is arguably not in the top five. And I’m a Detroit Pistons fan.
The best Jordan is the best player ever. The other 2 guys have longevity over him
But to me longevity don’t make you the better player but we can argue better career
Better career is the point of this entire list, my guy
Longevity will always outweigh peak.
@@tyjohnson3111 not if longevity doesn’t amount to more championships
Longevity is the most overrated thing in the world unless your a lebron Stan. It’s not like Jordan played 5 or 6 years he played for over a decade and came into the league a little older because he was busy winning in college. He more accomplished then essentially everyone else who played in less time is the best two way player of all time. The argument that “ he didn’t play for as long as insert player name “ is stupid and it just sounds like reaching. Lebron plays in an age where the game isn’t as taxing and advancements in sports medicine allow players to play longer then they would have otherwise. A higher apex with a reasonable sample size should absolutely take president over someone playing longer that means that at their best the higher apex player was better at basketball then a guy who played a few more years .My opinion but i hate that argument
@@jacksonmordente8716 I feel you but Bron has a close peak with way more time. Not just a year or two. He has been dominant since day one and still going. I can see the argument for both players but longevity is definitely a strong argument when the peaks are this close. Also, if modern advancement is the reason why is everyone else from Brons class retired or a complete shell of themselves? No one has expectations to play good in year 20 but Bron in NBA history. Dude a freak of nature
Nick Wright taking Michael Jordan at being number 3, is laughable. But what also makes this list a complete joke, was how Nick willing to put Luka Doncic at Number 20!! And SOMEHOW COMPLETELY IGNORE NIKOLA JOKIC, AND DAME LILLARD!🤦♂️
So kareem won five of his six chips with a top 4 player. He's ahead. Lebron lost six finals to Jordan's zero. So his argument is sustain longevity of a high level. Lebron and kareem combine have less scoring titles than Jordan. Nick just hates Jordan for reason. No logical reason to have Jordan less then one. The GOAT is judged on the best 10-12 seasons. No more. A longer career then that does not make you the GOAT.
Jordan has had the highest peak, however he had a lot of help.
He is the goat to me however the 6 finals argument is dumb. Those teams he beat were not great as he never was an underdog.
Lebron has done more with less for longer. I mean he’s still getting dissed now and he’s in year 20. Mikes year 15 was ceremonially.
Jordan had the highest peak. But sustained greatness matters.
Jordan has Kobe . Lebron is one of one.
If you just compare ball not narratives and myths. Again jordan is the goat but it’s not for reasons ppl name.
@@innviewtheinnview8150 so were magic and wade worst then pippen? I don't think anyone that knows basketball would ever take prime pippen over prime magic or prime wade. Lebron had prime wade for four appearances and two chips. Kareem had prime magic for 8 appearances and five chips. How exactly did Jordan have more help?
@@kingmerlyn4615 wade was prime for the first 2 years … by year 4 when they got ran off the court by San Antonio Wade was washed up.
"No logical reason to have Jordan less then one."
If you watch First Take Nick has said part of his motivation is to fight back against pro-Jordan "propaganda", he's literally making anti-Jordan propaganda to prop up Lebron.
Skip is ridiculous with his bias against Lebron. To somehow equal that ridiculousness is really impressive of Nick.
Lebron - Lebron has a 22-33 record in the finals losing 6 of 10. His finals record is 4-6 not 🐐
I knew this was inevitable when he put luka at #20 outrageous
Nick he’s the only 30 point regular season scorer of the last 50 years not all time (Wilt) and if you only look at Chicago he’s averaged 31.5 in the regular season …. Great video bro , great series , love your work and takes keep killing it.
nick is delusional
When Nick says he wasn't the best defender the year he won DPOY says alot. Nick wasn't really there to see Mike play he's not qualified to speak
no one ever said people discount the years outside the 6 years he was champ.
The reason why that is highlighted is because he did that in the same decade! from 1990 to 2000 he won 6 championships!
He virtually played 6 seasons in that decade too. 2- 3peats.
Til 96... he wasn't in anymore finals after that u can't give em the decade.
@@HomerunsamSOSA he won 91-93 and then 96-98. what are you in about 💀
Jordan at 3 is really the most wild thing of all time
honestly, despite the series losses his first 7 seasons has to be greatest individual run in sports history. UNREAL.
with context those losses add value to his legacy
He did it. He actually did it
Shocking!!!
88 Mike was a GOD🙏🏾 and Nick is correct most of us fell in love with Mike before the chips - the Kicks - Spike Lee - the gold chain - dunking on anybody - played so hard - he changed culture forever 🔥🔥🔥
He was 26 Kobe in 05-06 was the same age already a 3x champ lol averaging 35 in the lowest scoring era.
@@diegochavez6203 With all due respect - you had to be there 🤷🏾♂️ Jordan 4s 3s Mike was something we never saw
@@diegochavez6203 yes Kobe by 2006 was a 3x champ (but he was the 2nd best player on those teams), he was also the main REASON they lost in 2004, he only won 34 games without Shaq in 2005... I love Kobe man, but keep it 100 yeah
Jordan is the greatest player of all time but lets please stop the blasphemy. There is only 1 GOD and he was not human...
@@thinkcritically6373 I said was meaning no longer but he was godlike no question
10:29 nick can’t even believe that start line hes reading 😂
Loving this series. Personally I would have Jordan above Kareem but I respect it. Everyone has different opinions. And everyone thinks different things hold more value in someone's greatness and it's cool to see how you balance the value of different accomplishments against eachother
Finally someone who respects the fact that everyone has different views and opinions
Based take
Can hate sway an opinion?
that's the question
@@LordPrettyThrilla hate is reserved for more.... serious topics friendo, this is NBA all time list stuff. take it down a notch kimosabe.
Some opinions are dumb tho.
Thank you Nick Wright for reminding people that Jordan's career wasn't JUST 6 years.
Right everyone knows that, but what is your EXACT ARGUMENT lol? Are we to start comparing Jordan's non-championship seasons with LeBron and Kareem's??? He wins those too. Or are you one of these people who wants to give them edges for Finals appearances with stacked teams lol??
@@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz what is it with you people?
No one says that Michael Jordan is TRASH. Give it a rest man. Not everyone has to bow at the alter of a man who played a GAME 🙄
correct he won 6 in 7 and didn't lose once he started winning in his prime, but the first 6 seasons before he won ain't no joke either and far better than anyone else's
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Nick
I like how well you used your math insights as well as other data to set up your evaluations. You have stayed true to the sport with incendental references also.
As a 73 year old NBA devotee I ask you to conduct a similar analysis for players from the beginning of the league to your starting point of this research. You have elderly resources available now that you will not have 10 or 20 years from now.
Well done Nick!
Only 2 mins in and Nick has me flabbergasted, not good or bad just utterly flabbergasted
I’m proud nick put Jordan at 3, I honestly thought there was a chance he might not have him on the list at all. I bet he could make an argument that luka right now is better than Jordan ever was and he’ll believe it 100%. Just glad Jordan made the list
This is why nobody takes Nick Wright seriously lol
Why the constant jabs at Kobe what player in Kobe era was efficient TMAC ? Vince ? Iverson ? Pierce ? Ray Allen ? Look it up !!!
Ray Allen has a near 60% true shooting percentage. That's comparable to today's efficiency.
@@pvlapa ray Allen shot 45 from the field.
@@pvlapa Allen ‘s FG % was .452 and Kobe was .447 every elite scorer outside of big men shot around the same % in the 2000-2010 era.
@@iancolas8031 You aren’t factoring 3pt%
Jordan 1,668 offensive rebounds to Lebrons current 1601. Steals 2514 to Brons 2136. While Bron played over 350 more games. What exactly is Bron better at outside of longevity and playmaking?
You really gonna use offensive rebounds as a way to say jordan is better? xD that’s what you have to resort to lol
@@killybass3925 Nope, it's a jab at nick for saying all stats are in Brons favour, still it's better than his argument for Bron, larger body of work is fine if you are ranking the best longevity, not basketball player.
@@killybass3925 I mean, points and assists are obvious. Defensive rebounds don't matter as bigs let their star get them(although Jordan had rodman who hoovered them up for 3 seasons), unless you wanna dive into super niche analytics that most people hate(that still favour Jordan), there isn't much more to look at... fg%? Identical but Brons will slowly decline as he gets into his later years... Don't lol me without giving me your argument, what? Afraid I'll teach you something?
@@killybass3925 ofcourse it shows that he is by far better rebounder then Lebron
I can’t believe he put ‘em 3rd. A lot of people bout to be big mad all week
If you wanna have lebron ahead of jordan, fine, whatever, but I just don’t see how you can make an argument for kareem being ahead of jordan
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There’s no reason to watch the last two videos when it’s obvious now that it’s a stunt for views
@@bretditty858 okay then stay ignorant if that's what you want. Or you could catch up on what's been happening in the sport for the last 2 decadea
I can see it if you really care about longevity a lot
Since when did longevity only become a negative in basketball…and no other sport treats it as such?
There is no argument to have LeBron ahead of Jordan!
I don't think I've ever seen Jordan at 3 anywhere, but it's funny to hear the argument. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Thank you. Its ok in 2022 to disagree with a sports NBA all time list player ranking. The world will go on tomorrow.
I like his back handed compliment that the lakers dared him to pass so he averaged high assists in 91 Finals...nice one Nick
Rationale for Jordan at number 3 is ludicrous. I think Jordan is the Goat, Magic number 2, Lebron at 3, and Kareem at 4, but hey Nick is entitled to his opinion. Jordan" made" Scottie Pippen, which is significant different than the other two remaining top 2 players. Kareem never made Magic, rather Magic took over him as a rookie and won the MVP in the finals. Lebron went to chase an already champion in D-Wade and when he was of no use to Lebron he went to Kyrie and got Kevin Love. That is why I argue that Magic is the second best player in my opinion, yes he had his bad moments in the finals but like the other greats other than Michael Jordan everyone had those. Since obviously Nick is playing the longevity game, which favors Lebron and Kareem and hurts Magic and Jordan why don't we try comparing all 4 players Best 11 years. This is the amount of time that Jordan played without either injuries (year2) or coming back from retirement. You will clearly see that Jordan is the best regardless of what 11 years you compare with Lebron, Magic, or Kareem. Interesting thing about Jordan unlike the other top two players is that once Jordan began winning, no one was able to take the title from him in the Finals. Just giving my two cents on the debate but like I said before everyone is entitled to their opinion!
Kareem didn’t make Magic? So what’s the % of AST Magic has to Kareem?
Magic didn’t even deserve the 1980 FMVP. He didn’t take over the Lakers as a rookie. Stop with the nonsense.
How can you discredit longevity and in the same breath create a sample size that fits exactly with who you’re arguing for? That’s objective to you?
You can’t even compare Kareem’s 11 years to MJ’s because Kareem played without a 3PT line for the front half of his career.
How can you take a title from a guy who barely played half of the 90s?
@@tyjohnson3111 Magic was a LEADER when he came into the NBA. D-WADE was a LEADER when Lebron came and joined him. Scottie was NOTHING before Michael worked with him. See the difference? Kareem wasn't the only one that Magic gave Assists to btw. Are we forgetting worthy, Scott, Perkins etc....
I agree with you 1000% man!
Yup. Spot on take. Nick has to play the longevity game because it's the only metric by which Lebron is better than Jordan. He tries to confuse and obfuscate the debate. When in reality it's very very simple.
Jordan was BY FAR the better offensive player than Lebum. 10 scoring titles to Lebum's 1. He was a better defender than LeFraud and one of the greatest defenders of all-time. And he was a better winner. Winning more titles in less time, and with arguably lesser players than Lebron. So how is Lebum worse both offensively AND defensively, worse as a winner, less decorated...But he's somehow the better player?!?! That's the definition of a delusion or just flat out bitter hating. Not to mention MJ's game was far more pleasing to watch to the point casuals and even non basketball fans tuned in just to watch him play.
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Scoring titles relative to what? USG%, TSA, TS%, etc.
I just realized after watching this video Nick is going to have Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as number one. But he’s going to say LeBron‘s going to surpass him after he gets the scoring title.
I would not have a problem with this.
The grand scoring title alone doesn’t get him passed Kareem.
I realised the exact same thing
Hey a like Nick, but Jordan No3 and Luka top 20 is crazy.
The fact that 99% in the comments disagree with these choices should tell him something.
99% comments are upset Jordansexuals that probably didn’t even watch the video fully
Nick said that Jordan’s peak may have been higher than anyone else’s but the longevity favours Bron and Kareem
Everyone agrees with that, but that’s the reason he has Jordan 3 and why most people have him as the GOAT
Jordan didn't need to play for twenty years to get his point across
@@mrmillennium2697 agreed. But purely because of longevity the only thing those guys have over him are total stats which don’t prove they were better, but they are are very important as well
Plus the extra all nbas etc blah blah blah
First CZcams comment here! Big Nick Wright fan, but having Jordan 3rd is so egregiously bad it voids the list. This is even less arguable than Luka at 20 in my opinion. Nick buddy this is a bad look Lmfao it just seems, almost petty and definitely biased.
It’s a propaganda piece. It’s not supposed to be taken seriously.
No Jokic is arguably worse lmao
Its just clickbait
@@DrShwazz fair😂😂😂
Why is Jordan over Kareem and LeBron?
The end of this list has made this list a farce
Because you can't think any harder than surface level about the sport?
@@GIGAFAT3 no because Jordan being at 3 is ridiculous.
Not much to think about sir Nick just looking for hot takes people who think Lebron is the goat never stop and think why they are in such the mimority lol
@@tonyfernadez472 No people who think LeBron just don't care about everybody else's opinion 🤷. Jordan wasn't my goat even before LeBron started playing
@@teresa-oj9rq then you were just wrong!
Jordan was just better and I saw him with my own 2 eyes 👀. The debate should change to who is the 2nd greatest player of all time.
You almost got me Nicky… you almost got me to react, BUT I respect the troll. Keep it up man.
Wooooow Nick you crazy for this can't wait to see how you upplay LeBron and Kareem over Jordan even if Jordans career was shorter he accomplished more that gotta speak for itself cause while he played he displayed