Making a Fine Art Photography Print (2 of 2)
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In part 2 of 2 in this series on making a fine art photography print, I'll show you the 8x10 proof and how to analyze it. You'll also see how I deckled the edge on my full-size watercolor paper print. Then we'll look at the final, finished fine art print framed and hanging on the wall.
There's no greater satisfaction in digital and film photography than creating a finished fine art print to hang on the wall. Whether you do it in a traditional darkroom setting or you scan the film negative on an Epson V750 scanner like I did here, the results can be incredibly rewarding.
I love creating fine art photography prints because I find digital sharing unfulfilling. With digital files, it's here today, gone tomorrow. But a true print can't be ignored so easily. And although the cost involved can deter some beginner photographers, it's worth the expense on the photos that really matter. That's why I encourage my students to print their photos instead of just letting them gather dust on their hard drive.
The photography print I made in this video is from a scanned 6x7 negative shot with a Mamiya RZ67 camera in Joshua Tree National Park. The film used was Ilford Delta Professional 100 medium format film. The scanner used is an Epson V750 with SilverFast software. I used watercolor paper and had it float-mounted in a shadowbox frame.
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I have to admit, I was unsure about the image until it was the whole finished product. Framed and hung. Goes to show the process of vision and knowing what will work. I loved the final piece. Some images come alive when printed and framed. Love the float too
Favorite episodes yet, Nick! Love it!
Thanks a lot, Matt!
I have been silently watching your videos for quite some time. They are a pleasure to watch and listen compared to other youtubers. You are clearly loving every moment of this and that is how it should be. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experiences.
Thank you for the kind words.
Thanks for keeping it real and without pretence. Your work is great and the videos informative as always. Well done.
Fantastic, gorgeous! Found your channel yesterday and it's already my favorite film photography channel. Eager to see more!
Beautiful! There is always great pride whenever you look at a beautiful piece of art you created.
Thank you! And I couldn’t agree more.
Stunning photography! I find your style very inspiring. Thanks for sharing it with us!
Its a nice feeling when you like your work. Good Job.
Beautiful work and the framing choice just made it even better.
Thank you very much!
I'm glad you shoot medium format film for fine art photography. To me, that is true fine art photography. I'm very passionate in my photography and they way it's supposed to be done. Great job!!!
Thank you! I couldn't agree more.
Totally appreciate the Peter Lik comment! Nailed it!!!
Haha - thanks!
I like how "Peter Lik" briefly flashes @ 7:04 with commentary, classy jab right there. Beautiful print and framing.
Nathan M Thank you very much! Someone's gotta make up for his lack of class.
You are one Brave, brave man doing the deckled? edge to a fine art print on watercolour paper. I can resonate with the nail and knuckle biting process that is printing large having had a 30x20 print back from the lab in three sections! Fortunately the second go worked and it's now hanging on the wall of a customer.
Float mounted it looks amazing! The photo is great as well.
Great idea with the mount. Looks amazing.
Thanks for arranging the piece at the end!
Nick, two really great videos. The picture looks absolutely gorgeous. You are giving me inspiration on each video I watch. Thx.
Thank you!
Another excellent and very informative vlog, thank you.
I found the 2 videos fascinating, the end result is class, finding a buyer should pose no problem at all!
Keep up with the great work Nick, stay safe on your travels.🍀👍
Andy Keeble thank you very much!
Final piece looks stunning!
Really like the way you framed this, Nick. Nice choice of framing material, too. I was glad to learn how to do deckled edges. When I have images of this quality framed I usually use museum glass. No reflections and you can add quite a bit to the price of with little or no effort. But years from now you will really be glad you did because your image will still be fresh and new.
Really enjoyed seeing the whole process. Thanks for this. Gorgeous piece!
Kim Murphy Thank you!
This is awesome Nick. Loved how it turned out!
Austin Dement Thank you, sir!
Very nice! Loved your framing of it.
Five years on and that Peter Lik reference still kills me. Man this shot was so good. Inspiring.
Wow looks stunning!!!
This is very helpful. Great work! Thank you for uploading it.
Dimitar Iliev my pleasure. Thanks for watching!
looks absolutely beautiful !
Just OUTSTANDING!!! First, you certainly should be proud of that shot, hell, I am and I had nothing to do with it! LOL. Second, the float mount is incredibly interesting. I'm only guessing but I imagine they 'sandwich' the piece between two sheets of glass and then placed that in the frame with a white sheet surface as the backing.
If they didn't do it that way, then I can't even imagine and alternative method. Third, you bring back the term "Fine Art" to photography. I resisted shooting digitally for years. In fact, the last film camera I owned was a Nikon F5. I was planning to graduate to a Hassleblad at some point when I got rich & famous...
However, the expense of film, processing, etc. was just spiraling out of control. In addition, my slides would come back with major dust and color processing flaws. I had no choice... I couldn't justify the costs to stick stubbornly to film and don't get me started on my late wife's POV!
Anyway, that's a great shot and just in terms of 'out of pocket' costs, (everything from the drive, to admittance to the park, on to the final framed product), I have to guess this shot set you back, maybe $3000 to $5000? Of course, you have to consider that it'll be spread across 25 prints, which I have no doubt will sell quickly.
Again, I'm just guessing here, but I think that piece, mounted just as you have it here, would easily sell for $2K each, no?
Thanks for the Part 1 & Part 2 videos.
I personally don't quite understand why you don't like inkjet prints, (I happen to love them and do my own large format printing myself), but that's what art is all about. "To each his own" and 'no one likes everything' so please yourself first and foremost.
Great Job!
Rich
Time to print and put my shots in living room! Thanks Nick !
sri17285 Good on ya! Thanks for watching.
You give me so much inspiration
The (Peter Lik) part cracked me up. Looks beautiful, my friend. Keep it up!
Thank you very much!
That's a beautiful piece of work
These videos inspire me to print my work. Thank you.
I'm glad to hear that. Thanks for watching!
Superb and captivating video. Creative perfection from beginning to end.
...and you should. It's beautiful! Very interesting videos. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much!
wow. Beautiful shot and presentation!
Jonathan Mitchell Thank you very much!
Excellent! , I have been waiting for this
Pablo Riquelme Thanks for watching!
Some of Hoflehner's works do have the slim white border, which takes the picture to a superior level. Joshua tree is a magical place and your art does it justice. Thank you very much for sharing the whole process. Your work is inspirational.
Rui Miranda Thank you, sir! I really appreciate the compliments.
I would be nervous cutting that edge too. I really like the shadow the print cast on the frame. No shame you should be proud. Job well done.
***** Thank you very much, good sir.
Truly awesome!
Great video and the print looks awesome!
MattCoPhoto Thank you, sir!
Great work; very nice presentation/explanation; keep up with your videos...
These were really great. Thanks for this.
Erik Wahlstrom My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Beautiful work!
Great work! Thank you for the tips also.
***** You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Nick that print is amazing! I am making the move away from digital and got myself an Olympus OM10 to start experimenting with black and white film. wish me luck haha!
Loved the series Nick, and that wonderful moment at 7:04!
Hey thanks a lot, Ben!
Perfeito!
+Ben Horne Friggin brilliant. It's well after midnight here and I lol'd..woke the baby up :P
Wow that looks amazing
James furtado Thank you sir!
Nice work. Thanks for the vid.
Great image! The deckled edge really adds a great touch to the black and white print. Nice framing as well with the shadow box mount! Someone in Corona del Mar NEEDS this hanging in their den.
HighSierraBob Thank you very much. And I agree...it should definitely be hanging in someone's den!
I will confess that I have gone very close to very large photos (in the National Geographic Gallery). Sort of the analog equivalent of pixel peeping and have always been impressed about how well the detail in those large photos holds up --even very close up. They obviously look better from the correct viewing distance because one gets the view that photographer wanted you to see. Nevertheless, the printing processing used by those galleries is amazing in how well it holds integrity even close up.
"Beauty lies in the eyes of observer" a well said statement proved right.
Love it, my friend!
Ragan Rowland Thank you!
Looks great mate, I'm from Australia and we obviously don't have joshua tree's here, but it has given me some inspiration, to take some mono photos, like this of our grass tree's in the frost or fog one winters morning.
tallaganda83 glad to hear that. I'd love to photograph in your neck of the woods someday.
Yeah id love to see your take on the Kimberleys or Karinji.
keep up , we want more video your professional thank you, you inspire me
Love the Peter Lik jab!
It came out nice!
John Wesolowski thanks!
Very nice tutorial. I hadn't thought about hanging my prints like this in a shadowbox before. The image of Joshua Park is very nice & looks stunning framed. Thanks for the tutorial. I enjoyed it very much & subscribed. Doug.
Doug Sturgess Thanks a lot, Doug!
Great stuff !!! Love your vids , I’m a newbie . How do you decide in how many prints to make ? I saw that you signed and numbered 1/25 , why 25 ? Thx a lot for your vids !!!
Great video Nick! Just a quick question: My lab always gives me low resolution scans (file size for a 35mm scan is around 600kb). At what resolution should I tell them to scan?
I really enjoyed watching it! Make's me want to go and get my dusty film camera out of the closet! Liked and subscribed!
Thank you very much! You should - film cameras are so fun to use.
Perfection .
Really nice. Congrats.
1717jbs thank you!
Another great video. Is it possible to frame this type of print without glass? Is there another way to protect it without the glare?
The final result is just wonderful! I do my own silver gelatin prints at home, but I also can't print this large..
I never saw that "floating" picture frame before, looks so cool! Do you know how the print is hold in place?
Thank you very much! The print is mounted on two stacked up pieces of foamcore board cut slightly smaller than the print.
Dear Nick, I understand when you say you don't like inkjet prints and I used to share the same opinion however, I decided to try the Canon Pixus Pro 1 (for the Japanese market) or the equivalent Pixma Pro 1 (for North American market) and I'm really satisfied with the results. Really solid blacks, smooth transitions and an amazing clear coating (which you can select where to apply on the photo (selected areas or over the entire image) help me to get what I want form the image. I'm Brazilian but I live in Japan and here I've seen some fine art photographers printing on this as it's more cost effective in the end. It prints from 4x5 up to 13x19, A3+. In case it doesn't work for you, I hope it will help someone who is into prints... Cheers
That's good to hear some inkjet printers are of that caliber. I'd like to see one of those prints someday.
Loved both of these (and I'm about to go watch the 'shooting of' video as well). I did have to pause this one at 7:04 as I was inexplicably taken by a fit of laughter. Couldn't agree more, and I'm an Aussie!
+Jim Campbell Thanks, Jim! Haha - yeah, and I chose the words arrogant "photographer" carefully to keep it family friendly.
There was a brief moment of "Oh, he's not, is he?" when the initial 'ph' of photographer came out!
+Jim Campbell haha. It took me a couple of takes...
so inspired!!
I_AND_i I'm glad to hear that!
My favorite Artist! :-D
Was it archival float mount? did he use a foam core under the image and how did he mount the image to it? like a t hinge?
damn that is fantastic
Beautiful print do I remember correctly watching a video of you on this shoot ? I have to watch it again because I remember really liking that video.
Yes, sir! The link to that video is in the description of this video. Thanks!
Awesome Videos!
Mike thank you!
Love the photo and love the mounting/framing! Questions on the float mount/framing: From your video it seems the photo is about a quarter of an inch away from the backer board. Do you know what the photo is mounted to? Foam core? Another mat? Or is it hanging from hinges secured at the top of the photo? If it is mounted to foam core or mat board, can you see how much larger the photo is compared to what it is mounted to? Thanks, Nick!
It's mounted on foam core, I believe. But I had a framer do it, so I'm not sure how much bigger the print is compared to the foam core.
Nearly fell out of my chair when Peter Lik’s name popped up!
Hey just curious - have you ever added up the final supplies cost? From cost of film, develop, glass mount for scanning, print, and framing, what's the avg cost of one beautiful fine art photo?
Oh I'm not sure I want to know that figure - haha. It's definitely not a cheap endeavor.
Great stuff I enjoy it and I signed your chanel for more videos, keep going.
Thank you very much!
hi it might help if you lightly wet the crease you are making !
Hey Nick - wicked tutorial! My question is...can you deckle edge glossy prints? Was this a glossy print? Thanks so much!
JW Thompson thanks! That's a good question. I've never tried so I can't say for sure.
You sir are a master.
I am looking at getting into home dev of B&W and scanning.
Thank you very much! I'm still always learning more about this stuff too. It never ends!
+Peter Truskinger that's a good and somewhat terrifying quote.
Haha, I could agree with that.
However, you could use it to motivate and power forward. Knowing more in what you think you know, or what you do not yet know. #toodeepforacomment ? :P
Hence why I applied it to a lesson.
+Peter Truskinger amen to that.
I going to check out Hopf Glass and get a piece for my scans.
John Wesolowski I think he may have closed up shop but I'm not sure. Just about any unmarked ground glass will do though.
yea I couldn't find a working website. But I'll find some ground glass somewhere. Love your videos.
(peter lik) AHAHAH.
Thats a great photo. really like the look and feel of it. What camera did you use? can I print this big with a 20 meg pixel camera?
Thank you! I used a Mamiya RZ67 film camera. Yes, you can definitely print this big from 20 megapixels. I've printed bigger from 12.
Nick Carver awesome! I was hoping to print this large also
What kind of computer system do you use?
so without the cost of equipment, how much did you pay for the printing and the framing ?
What kind of pencil do you recommend for signing prints? Does it depend on the type of paper? Thanks!
Aaron Hudnall just any old graphite #2 pencil (not mechanical) is perfect.
Excellent.
Thank you
Do you print for yourself using an epson or canon printer?
Was that a regular pencil that you use to sign the photograph? I hear you're supposed to use pigment ink pens for longevity
hi Nick, nice video. would you mind sharing how much the printing/framing cost? I'm here in OC and I'd like to possibly do something similar like yours in the future. (I usually get my small prints 16x20, 12x18, 18x24 done at Costco and ready made frame). thanks!
The print was about $100, the framing about $200.
Not bad for a hand held shot with an RZ ! Have you given it a title? how about "Trinity" !
how much did you spend on everything?
There's nothing wrong with liking our own work as photographers. That's why we do it. If we didn't like it, it would just be work
Wow! Just wow! A picture is not a picture until its hanging from a wall, I say. Wonderful job, and very interesting video, also. Can I be your apprentice? :)
I completely agree! And thank you! Apprentice? Haha - maybe I'll have one of those someday.
Hi Nick, they've already asked you for it, but how much can a print of this kind be worth? in other words, what is the right price for a customer?
That's the million-dollar question. Depends on the audience and how much anyone cares about your work I guess.
haha. nice touch at 7:03 :D
So another Q... It's ok to outsource printing to labs for limited editions? You don't have to print it yourself? I heard the guys at Kelby talking about how printing at CVS or online is like fast food, printing at a lab is like fine dining, and printing yourself is like cooking at home where you have complete control of the creative process... Are fine art buyers necessarily expecting personally printed pieces? I don't have that kind of money yet!
No they definitely aren't. Don't do the printing yourself. They are not valued higher, it's way more work, and they most definitely will not be better quality if you compare them to a real pro lab. And I would argue that doing the printing yourself is more likely to decrease the value significantly over a pro lab.
That Kelby quote is actually a perfect analogy, because although some people may think their home cooking is as good as fine dining, they're probably wrong. I'll take a steak from the 5-star chef at the 5-star restaurant over my own home cooking any day.
Thanks so much Nick!!!!
+Joshua Voyles Anytime!
This was AWESOME!!!!! THX so much, I learned a lot! Is it wrong to ever have a watermark on a print? Lord bless.
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it. I wouldn't watermark prints ever, but do sign them.
Nick Carver THX!!!
How come instead of the PS document being 25" X 30" you set it to 24.1"X30"?
Franatixx The final size was actually 20x25. I initially planned to do 24x30, but opted to go smaller later. The screencast part of the video was recorded when I first tried it at 24x30.
Good....I like this...:)
FoxKoit Glad to hear that. Thank you for watching.
If I would only be able to, such image to make. :)
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