Wily Wars: Mega Man 1 NES vs Genesis | Beating & Reviewing (Ep.19) Part 1 of 3
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Mega Man is an iconic classic video game character, and with 6 NES games, it's a total shock that his 1-3 compilation cart ended up on SEGA!
Let's enjoy both of these games from start to finish while checking out all the improvements and differences!
Stay tuned for Part 2 with Mega Man 2 and check out the channel for many other Beating & Reviewing episodes, rare collection videos, and entries of "It's Expensive but is it Good?"
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ロックマンは象徴的な古典的なビデオゲームのキャラクターであり、6つのNESゲームで、彼の1〜3の編集カートがセガに行き着いたのは完全なショックです！
すべての改善点と相違点を確認しながら、これらのゲームの両方を最初から最後まで楽しみましょう！
ロックマン2のパート2に注目し、他の多くのBeating＆Reviewsエピソード、珍しいコレクションビデオ、「高価ですが良いですか？」のエントリをチャンネルでチェックしてください。
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洛克人（Mega Man）是标志性的经典视频游戏角色，拥有6个NES游戏，他的1-3编译手推车最终出现在SEGA上，真是令人震惊！
让我们从头到尾享受这两种游戏，同时查看所有改进和差异！
请继续关注Mega Man 2，以了解第2部分的内容，并查看该频道中的其他许多Beating＆Review剧集，稀有收藏视频以及“虽然很贵但是很好吗？”的条目。
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Mega Man은 상징적 인 클래식 비디오 게임 캐릭터이며 6 개의 NES 게임으로 그의 1-3 개의 편집 카트가 SEGA에서 끝났다는 사실은 충격적입니다!
모든 개선 사항과 차이점을 확인하면서 처음부터 끝까지이 두 게임을 모두 즐기십시오!
Mega Man 2의 Part 2를 계속 지켜봐주세요. 채널에서 다른 많은 Beating & Reviewing 에피소드, 희귀 컬렉션 동영상, "비싸지 만 좋은가요?"항목을 확인하세요.
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running it on an overclocked megadrive, the slowdowns disapeared, making the game waaaaaay better, responsive and "fair"....and for me, disactivating this non stop popping of ennemies when we change screen is a blessing, really, way more quality of life than in nes games...and putting the menu button to A is a game changer too, waaaay appealing...
If you have an overclocked megadrive, get this game!!
Or if you play the Japanese version
So far this is the best Wily Wars Review I've ever seen! A lot of Megaman fans like to dismiss this game, but I find it to be an underappreciated gem.
A little advice on fighting the Megaman Copy Boss. Use Fire Storm because it does a lot of damage and it allows you to push him off of you if he comes in too close.
Love your back n forth breakdowns. Keep em coming! The final battle reminded me of Boswer finale in Super Mario World.
I just finished the WW version of Megaman 1 again. Definitely a chore with the firing rate change. Final boss was easier however. Still prefer the NES version overall.
The nerfed firing rate really does make it so brutal!
Really cool side by side to highlight the changes between both versions, Jeff. Looking forward to part 2. 🤘🤘
An aside, any new movies or shows that you that you caught during the lockdown, that you were meaning to see? Just saw Sonic yesterday, pretty cool flick for what it was, a family film.
I can’t believe I didn’t see this! I’m sorry, you always deserve to get your questions answered lol and honestly, I just spent all the time on the channel pretty much 😂
Awesome looking forward to the MM2!! My favorite MM.
In the clone battle, you can opt to use Fire or Elec; Elec's long, wavy beam gives you some room for error on your shots, and Fire gives you a momentary shield that knocks back the clone if the clone tries to jump on top of you.
No kidding, that would’ve been a lot easier than the buster 🤣 that was ridiculous
@@Telecritter78 in the NES, it definitely is! But the Genesis with its broken rate of fire is what makes it totally lame.
@@MarMaxGamingJesus, I was replying to this while waiting for the review proper to start, 2 minutes later, the slowed fire is mentioned, and I came back to delete my comment, as it no longer applies; and you ALREADY replied. You’re quick dude!
@@Telecritter78 haha no worries at all, I’ve done the same thing… and welcome to the channel! Sometimes I’m already holding my phone, so yeah! Appreciate you watching! Hope you enjoy the other mega man vids 💙
Loved the Genesis graphical change in MM1. I prefer MM1 over MM2 due to the better Wily Stages, and generally stage design/weapons overall. MM2 is still a solid game, but I preferred MM1 much more.
I know what you mean.. I prefer running through MM1 sometimes too. I know it’s an unpopular opinion but they’re both great games.. MM2 is just more accessible for a lot of people since it’s way easier on “Normal Mode” and it does kill it on the audio/visual front of course.. my least favorite thing is that room where you need to perfectly pace your crash bombs and any mistakes with it means forcing a game over to try again. Mega Man 3 is coming next and hope to see what you think!
What about Megaman 3?
3 is the best by farrrrr! 2 is great as well. Nobody likes 1... Few like 4
I never would have suspected that slowing the game down would make it harder. I figured that the slower enemies and such would be easier to avoid. weird
Yes, basically slower can make stuff easier but it’s the inconsistent and unpredictable way things screech to a halt, making it tough to have a real sense of timing and rhythm. Thanks as always for watching, hope you’re well broseph
I’ve only played Wiley Wars on my genesis mini and I noticed a big difference in how it controls compared to the NES counterparts as well. I found just moving to be much more touchy and “slippery” feeling. Making some sections I have no problem with on NES kind of annoying and difficult on the genesis.
I also don’t love the updated music. There’s a certain charm to the 8 bit jams that gets lost imo. Anyway, great vid dude, love me some MM 👍
King Mob thanks for commenting as always, my dude! Absolutely, man - I love mega man and the 8 bit versions are outstanding! I just try to give this thing a fair shake and appreciate everything it tried to do. More on the way!
MarMax Gaming for sure, looking forward to mm2 :)
@@megamob5834 i played the japanese version of the original Genesis version.
Good things about the Wily Wars version of MM1 :
- The Hyper Bomb is more efficient than the NES counterpart; it blow more faster. Even the Wily Tower robot masters are weak to it.
- It have some good background for the 6 robot master and the wily stage. Even the Robot Master have a head mugshot.
- The Yellow Devil is more easy than the NES version due lower frame and you can avoid his bodies part so easily.
Great review! Definitely interesting to see the two side by side and the differences. Amazing improvements in the graphic side as well. Not sure why some of the changes were implemented with the slowdowns and fire rate.
In the NES original, the Fire weapon is still the weakness of the final boss, the Cutman weapon is more effective on the second form is you manage to stand under the Wily machine
Enjoyed the video and am looking forward to the other parts!
I'm not a fan of the Mega Buster in the Wily Wars. Even without the slowdown, those plasma bullets come out way too slow and their travel speed is ridiculously slow. I do like the expansion of the art design for each stage. It is always a treat to see more of Mega Man's world!
Appreciate you watching, bro! I totally agree, it’s the ultimate sacrifice to play with such interesting and cool graphics / music.
There is a lot of classic mega man content on this channel, there are 4 wily wars videos, nes mega man 4-6, difficulty ranking all 46 classic mega man bosses in 2 vids, and mega man x content as well. Thanks for commenting and supporting the channel!
Great review, game looks super difficult to beat!
Thanks, Alexis! I always appreciate when you watch and comment, nice to hear from you... hope you’re doing great!
I was gonna mention there is a fanmade sequel to Wily Wars being done (called "Sequel Wars") but apparently you're already aware lol
It is a lot more polished than Wily Wars IMO, but that's likely because it's using more modern homebrew tools instead of being a ROM Hack.
I’m excited to do whole comparisons on 4, 5, and 6 once those are made easily available for me! I hope it becomes a cartridge, I’d 100% buy it!
Great review on the 3 games, just subscribed to your channel, quality content! I have been playing a rom hack on my sega genesis, it unlock 5 consecutive shots and the slide for the 3 games. Really awesome game.
That’s awesome! Sounds like a great way to play the game. I really appreciate you watching and commenting, definitely helps the channel!
I have some other comparison vids too, if you’ve ever played the Disney games like Aladdin, Toy Story, or Lion king...
@@MarMaxGaming im not sure how much of a difference it can make for somebody that experienced the game as it is, but yeah i was able to beat megaman 1 today kinda well, such killer soundtrack. Looking forward to your next vid comparisons, these are all great games. Keep up the good work brother :-)
wow what a way to flex on your collection! It's a dream to have all of those in the same room in that condition.
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@@MarMaxGaming You're welcome. It definitely paid off to have a satisfying collection.
Not gonna mention how Cutman and Bombman are harder without their weakness now. I used be able to destroy them with my Mega Buster no problem before but in Wily Wars the buster only does 1 peg of damage rather than two I think in the NES version. This made the rematch of Cut Man harder since he didn't have the blocks to use Gutsman's weapon on him
Interesting, I didn’t notice 1 peg against cut man or bomb man… not sure if that’s true or not, they were still easy fights so I didn’t notice! The only thing I pointed out was that Bomb Man seemed harder to avoided since his sprite is bigger, it just took until Wily Castle rematches to really notice!
@@MarMaxGaming Yeah I'm playing through it right now since it just dropped on the Switch online service and I chose Bomb Man first as usual since it's always been the best route to take and it avoids backtracking for the magnet beam. But it was the first thing I noticed and he was harder because of it, same for Cutman.
Worth noting that Wily's first form was always weak to Fire in MM1. But yeah, rip the Cutter being the best weapon against phase 2...
Also: Fun fact! Copy Robot and Elec Man have the exact same AI in MM1. The only difference is that Elec Man has to jump to reach his third shooting point, since it's up on a ledge. But this is the only time he jumps without you shooting.
you can jump right before gutsman throws the blocks so that he throws it over your head instead of right at you (at least in the wily wars version)
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Great review, I just played the genesis version but really hate the fire speed of the mega buster, in my opinion that just trow all to the trash, a megaman that cant shot fast? Big mistake
Thanks, Juan! Yeah man it changes everything. Big challenge to get through like that haha. There’s part 2, 3, and 4 if you’re into it!
@@MarMaxGaming Im in, thanks Max
@@juanpabloflores2466 my man, appreciate it, Juan! My name is Jeff but I understand where you got that from, it’s a play on my last name… Jeff Marmar lol went with MarMax! Haha
Nice that now we can play it on the Switch online.
The Genesis Mini fixed a lot of slowdown issues. I love Wily Wars personally, but aside from Mega Man 3, I think that the NES versions are just as good. MM3 feels way better on Genesis, but that may just be my preference.
I’m glad they were able to fix those problems, that’s a big deal!
I swore I heard a song on the radio that sounds similar to the Elecman stage theme
Rip the buster
You can play this on the genesis mini
Thank goodness for that.. am I right, Karleigh? Appreciate you watching
@@MarMaxGaming update, my sis just told me about a "collector's edition" of the Wily wars that comes with a manual.
Came here just to comment this.
I got the genesis mini (mega drive mini in Europe) a few years ago as a christmas gift from my father. So many good titles on that bad boy, I'd absolutely recommend to buy it.
@@capitalcoffee7514 oh, I just got it last Christmas. The games are pretty good.
The PAL Version of Wily Wars did not even run on NTSC consoles without a Game Genie code or something. Also, it would run at the same speed as the Japanese/US Version. The PAL Version is only slower in a PAL Console.
Yeah, obviously they have to run on their respective systems. The whole point is playing the game on NTSC instead of the authentic PAL is not only way cheaper, but not nearly as slow. Lol
People like to hate on the ost but damnit I like it
@@Omar_ZX it’s really cool… An absolute treat, honestly!
@@MarMaxGaming yea, especially for some songs I just love it
10:09
It's a nerf given to other "thrown weapons" like the Metal Blade and the Shadow Blade. And let's be real, the former needed that the most.
15:10
Actually, there's one change that you missed. Defeating one of the modules spawns the next immediately, and chucking a Guts Block at it with Super Arm DOESN'T cause it to break on contact. Because of that, you can make the fight so much quicker by timing your throws so that you take out two of the modules with one block, thus making it possible to finish the fight with exclusively the Super Arm.
Do you know if it was a coincidental oddity nerf or if they actually decided that you can’t run and throw? They nerfed your Buster enough, it’s not like any of these weapons turn the original games on their head to become extremely easy, so to me it seems like another result of a 3rd party team with a lot of complications.
@@MarMaxGaming
a. I'm not sure about that, but my guess is the latter. They may have wanted to do it for the Metal Blade, which they did, but because there's two other "thrown weapons" (Rolling Cutter and Shadow Blade) in the same game (and likewise the same engine), I think the nerfs to those two were unintentional nerfs may have carried over.
b. [I]t’s not like any of these weapons turn the original games on their head to become extremely easy", you say? Say hello to the Metal Blade, which pretty much broke Mega Man 2.
c. And yes, you can still shoot 3 shots with the Buster during a jump. It's just that you have to shoot once on the way up to do it.
d. Also, the section at 10:58 is, as far as I have experienced, easier in the Genesis version, since Mega Man can actually squeeze through after freezing the flame geysers even if it doesn't look like he could do it, thus giving you a slightly larger margin of error. This is not present in the NES version.
@@slimballs9650 yeah I’m very familiar with MM2, the metal blade is just a fun and good weapon.. it’s not much better than something like the three way elec blasts that 1 shot everything. So this was clearly an oversight, not a purposeful nerf.
And Lol man I didn’t “MISS” anything I can’t literally talk every every nuance in an 18 min video, it was a fast paced compare & contrast from beginning to end of the game… but any fun facts you want to add? I’m all for it.
a shame that mega man 4 didn't get ported to genesis. That's the best NES Mega Man imho.
apparently there have been fan projects that pulled off MM4, MM5, and MM6 in Wily style! I covered those games on the NES, but haven't done any compare & contrast.... yet....
Oh was Wily 1's weakness the cutter in NES? I thought it was the fire. Maybe both.
You’re right, it’s fire and then elec & cutter on the 2nd. I sometimes like the sound it makes to be throwing it, sounds so effective! Crunch crunch crunch
I have to say, I never played this on the Genesis. Mega Man is far better on NES, way easier to rapid fire and use refresh glitches to your advantage.
Definitely is, with playability! Hope you enjoyed the recent mega man 5 vid too! 💣
that slowdown looks painful... that happens on the non-bootleg cart too?
from what I've seen, yes, apparently due to there still being so many underlying issues from their lengthy and troublesome debugging process.
Overall NES is more smooth while the Sega version is more realistic.
Appreciate you watching! Realistic like, graphically? Gameplay-wise, it feels less realistic with the bizarre slowdown and how nerfed the Buster is 😭
gut vid
Thanks, Ikareta! I hope you enjoy part 2 and 3 as well!
how does wiley wars run on emulators? slowdown or no slowdown?
I haven’t played on emulator but I hope somebody chimes in! Appreciate you watching
I really enjoyed the extra challenge with the mega drive version
I don't know, I didn't feel it that "butchered"
If somebody is being kinda tough on it, due to the crazy slow down and buster coming out so slow, they might think so.. I don’t think they’re butchered either, my friend! I enjoyed them! I appreciate you watching too!
Dr. light always had hair in his NES depiction.
And for the options menu, the chosen option is yellow.
I showed the compare and contrast right there, one is a full head upwardly raised compared to the guy that looks bald on top with hair wrapping around the sides… and for the menu, no it isn’t, I just went and looked at it again. if it’s a hard to detect pale yellow that I still can’t see, that’s still a fail.. aside from that I appreciate you watching! Hope you like 2 & 3
@@MarMaxGaming the description for dr. Light you just gave is more accurate, and i checked all versions of the game i have, and in all of them, the options text turns yellow, so something may be wrong with your copy.
Ill check 2&3 since i have the time now.
Actually you can get the magnet beam using the elec beam (in the original game, don’t know about wily wars)
Tseries Isadisease yeah of course, but you don’t have his weapon until you beat his stage... and magnet beam is on elec man’s stage. So, point was that you would need to know to revisit the level if you didn’t already have Guts Man’s weapon.
@@MarMaxGaming exactly just revisit the stage
@@tseriesisadisease3090 haha yeah sure, but that’s annoying, so I was just talking about not entering and climbing through the whole level twice. As in, you’ll want cut man’s weapon. It would be unusual for somebody to even think to revisit, if they couldn’t get it the first time, is the major point I was getting at.
@@MarMaxGaming I know I was just bringing up a suggestion
@@MarMaxGaming I plan on getting this game on mega drive so wish me like with its terrible 50hz
Why would nintendo and sega have a war when THIS exist
ThisNintendoFan ! Good question! It’s because Capcom created Mega Man, so Nintendo didn’t have exclusive rights to the games and looks like they tried some things out with Sega to play on both sides of the fence!
I don't think it's worth spending like 400 dollars on this game. Sure it looks better but I want something that PLAYS better. The NES Versions still look great to this day, the music is better (In my opinion), and it plays better than the genesis versions.
Oh definitely, it’s a very cool novelty but having your rate of fire nerfed is a very tough flaw to forgive lol… I agree in general too, I like the NES OSTs a lot. I’m excited to see what you think of the other 3 parts of the Wily Wars, including Wily Tower! Thanks Jacob!
I'mma just buy the repro copy for like 30-40 bucks. But yeah i'm excited to see the other 2 parts@@MarMaxGaming
@@idk15762 that’s the smart move! And there are 3 more parts, basically first 3 parts are Mega Man 1, 2, 3 and then “Part 4 of 3” is the Wily Wars exclusive Wily Tower with three new robot masters and a few final stages!
wow, why did they butcher it so badly.......its a shame.
The buster mostly, that’s for sure lol
the genesis version actually looks and sounds horrible.... don't like it at all
Lmao that’s a first 🤣