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The Most SHOCKING Cut in New York Jets HISTORY | Mickey Shuler (1990 Jets)
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Entering the 1990 season, just about everyone expected the New York Jets to start Mickey Shuler at tight end. However, not even four days after Shuler said that he'd be stunned if he wasn't the starter, he was released by head coach Bruce Coslet. This is the story behind the surprising cut, which even 30 years later, might be the most surprising cut in Jets history
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Members of the 1990 Jets:
Mickey Shuler (preseason)
Pat Leahy
Joe Prokop
Ken O'Brien
Tony Eason
Troy Taylor
Don Odegard
Erik McMillan
Michael Mayes
Freeman McNeil
Ken Johnson
Carl Howard
A.B. Brown
Brad Baxter
Blair Thomas
Johnny Hector
James Hasty
John Booty
Tony Stargell
Pat Kelly
Brian Washington
Travis Curtis
Dan Murray
Joe Mott
John Galvin
Jim Sweeney
Jeff Lageman
Mac Stephens
Joe Kelly
Kyle Clifton
Jeff Criswell
Roger Duffy
Dave Zawatson
Trevor Matich
Dave Cadigan
Dwayne White
Brett Miller
Gerald Nichols
Scott Jones
Mike Haight
Mark Boyer
Terance Mathis
Jo-Jo Townsell
Chris Dressel
Rob Moore
Doug Wellsandt
Chris Burkett
Al Toon
Dale Dawkins
Dennis Byrd
Emanuel McNeil
Scott Mersereau
Troy Johnson
Ron Stallworth
Marvin Washington
Darrell Davis
Bruce Coslet (head coach)
Leon Hess (owner)
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I believe cutting a pro bowl caliber TE in favor of a backup would be like your QB running into the backside of his own lineman, fumbling, and having the other team run it back for a TD. If only we had a term for that...
It's even worse than a team trading multiple first and second round picks for a QB being investigated by the FBI for sexually assaulting multiple women who might not even play the season or ever again when they have a second year QB drafted 5th overall who's looking much better than he did as a rookie.
@@DolFan316 lol I don't get that one at all...this is why NE wins the division all the time
@@DolFan316 sounds a grand recipe for disaster to me
@@DolFan316 that sounds very entertaining in which the Jets seemed to be designated team for that purpose in the AFC East seems like by design 😆
If it makes you feel better Rex Ryan has a tattoo of his wife wearing said QB's jersey.
Two more seasons of Mickey Shuler would've been preferable to the next three with Boyer. God, I still remember being a freshman in HS and coming home to the news of Mickey's release and looking forlornly at his Starting Line-Up figure :-(
I just remember that in Tecmo Super Bowl you didn't have to worry about Boyer doing anything at all.
Probably the same feeling I got when my Redskins cut Clint Didier a few years before his time was up.
Same way I felt when the Vikings traded Moss
The Jets wearing black is worse than if you spiked the ball into the ground on every single play.
Just as bad as when, my favorite team, the 49ers also decided to wear black in 2015 & 2016. So ugly.
Putting black in every uniform was a stupid fad across all sports that was big in the late 90s and early-to-mid 2000s that thankfully went out style by 2010 or so (except in the money-hungry NBA where every team has a dozen different costumes to peddle to their fans). The Jets though, ever on the cutting edge of latest trends, decided to roll their black jerseys out in 2019, lol.
@@bobsnow6242 It's like nobody realized that if every team wore black, it would become boring and turn fans off since every team would look the same.
Mickey wasn't the starting tight end until 1984, then He went to two Pro Bowls in 1985 and 1986. Outstanding hands.
Bruce Coslet had no business being an NFL hesd coach.
The same could be said for Lou Holtz, Rich Kotite, Eric Mangini, Todd Bowles, or Adam Gase. The Jets have a knack for jamming dudes with dubious credentials into the head coaching job over and over again and expecting it to work out to no avail.
@@bobsnow6242 so true. The NYJs where head coaching aspirations go to die ☠️
@@bobsnow6242 that list is extensive
But accurate 😆
@@bobsnow6242 Eric Mangini was a good coach who got screwed by Brett Favre trying to play through a shoulder injury he didn’t tell anybody about. He didn’t deserve to get fired.
Bruce Coslet is the Little League coach who verbally berated 10 year olds until Kelly Leak did a burnout near 2nd base
Jets really liked their Penn St. tight ends. They drafted another one, Kyle Brady.
Anybody remember the Brady Bunch parody commercial with Kyle Brady in it?
That pick was an interesting Butterfly Effect, as it led to the Buccaneers drafting Warren Sapp and the Ravens drafting Ray Lewis.
There was a time when they liked their Alabama QBs, too. But after Richard Todd happened...
@@eugenedenbrook322 and USC quarterbacks. Sanchez and Darnold.
They both came from the same area. Probably about 5 miles. I knew both of them.
I bet Coslet wished he had Shuler when they went 6-10 that following year in 1990 and especially against the Oilers in the 91 wildcard game.
No doubt, the Jets really lacked a viable weapon at TE during that time period; a major void there, although I really dig their receiving corps (Al Toon, Rob Moore, Chris Burkett, and Terance Mathis).
Mickey Shuler was pretty damn good from what I remembered I would take him on my team any day.
In the 1980's, only Todd Christianson, Dwight Clark and Brent Jones were better receiving tight ends than Mickey Shuler in my opinion.
@@davester1970 Agreed
@@davester1970 agreed.
The curse of Mickey Shuler! We haven't had a TE end since! Even had a OC that didn't believe that was an actual position thanks Chan Gailey!
Couldn’t agree more. Haven’t had a reliable, steady, sure handed tight end since.
I remember this so well. Shocking for sure--Great job laying out the context of this story. We were all shocked in NY when this went down. Didn't see it coming. Remember it like it was yesterday. Thanks for the memories--Very well done video
I'm a simple man.
I see a notification for a new JaguarGator video, I click.
"Very nice season with 69 receptions."
I see what you did there.
Nice.
Shuler turned out to be very productive in that position, and more than one person ended up happy with that final number.
1. At 10:04, the “Giving him the business” game.
2. You mentioned Wide Receiver Rob Moore in this video. This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about a great game he had with a broken wrist.
Shuler was a fan favorite and a very solid player, also a class act. Met him at Hofstra where the Jets practiced back then, of all the Jets I saw walk by me that day as a kid only him, Rob Moore & Freeman McNeil of any of the named player there stopped and signed a autograph
Well, 31 years ago today, Mickey Schuler would've been surprised if he wasn't the starter...
I think what happened in 1997 was a crazier cut. Bill Parcels chose a punter, and changed his mind two weeks later. Official Jaguar Gator 9 made a video about that controversy.
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Goes to show how inept the jets were as an organization.
Were?
@@lukeheaton5336 I know they still are but I was using were in its context (back then).
The same guy that made LT pissed off in 1984 preseason game!!!
The Jets did the same thing with Kendall - Right off a great season, for seemingly no reason, they just cut him without any backup in mind.
That 1986 Jets team is almost worth of a mini documentary: The highs (9 game winning streak which is a franchise record that still stands, Ken O'Brien posting a perfect passer rating against the Seahawks, the overtime thriller against the Dolphins were Ken O'Brien & Dan Marino combined for 10 TD passes and over 900 yards, Al Toon and Mickey Schuler making the Pro Bowl, with Toon also being First Team All Pro); the lows (the 5 game losing streak where their defense collapsed, worst being getting whipped by the Dolphins 45-3 on Monday Night Football); again to the highs (winning the Wild Card game against the Chiefs) and finishing on the lows (blowing a 10 point lead in the Divisional Round against the Browns, Mark Gastineu committing the most ill timed Roughing the Passer penalty)
1990 also marked a very unfortunate uniform change the Jets have yet to rectify.
That green and white with those helmets was a thing of beauty. Coming from a Broncos fan.
@@area.man. I wished the jets either go to there 80s uniform or where the 60s one. Or even better have them both uniforms as alternatives
@@user-oh6eg4ny3h Amazing how such a plain look in the 80s turns out to much better than the current and previous one.
@@area.man. yea ordinarys somtimes just feels better then trying to do somthing unique. I loved how it was spelt jets on the side of the helmet. The current one just says jets with no personality like the 80s one that’s spelt jets unique. The 60s one was a football and oval recently which was cool
I've noticed your videos have been posted recently mostly 49ers, Jets, and Steelers instead of the other teams. Great videos and can't wait for the regular season in two weeks!
Bruce Coslet was not a HS level coach.
I just met Mickey Shuler took a picture and talked about this video
I have said it BEFORE and I will say it AGAIN: The New York Jets would be BETTER OFF just SPIKING the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play because they have SUCKED since 1970, they SUCK TODAY, and the will CONTINUE to SUCK. PERIOD.
I never thought that Shuler was a very good tight end. I was surprised when I heard his stats listed in this video. Perhaps I misjudged him.
At the time I thought he was good but not great. Shuler certainly wasn;t a household name in the mid/late '80s like this video implies. Then again that was an absolutely horrible time for TEs in general.
@@DolFan316 It was a time where the best blocker started and if the 2nd guy had better receiving skills he would get spot duty.
@@johnliberty3647 I know. That's how the '72 Dolphins did it. Marv Fleming was the "official" starter because he was a better blocker than Jim Mandich, who caught almost all the passes (and was a very underrated red zone threat decades before that term existed).
Oh Mickey you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind. Hey Mickey! Hey Mickey!
31 Years Ago
Yeah, Joe Walton received a lot of flak as head coach of the jets, but it's true that there weren't any double-digit losses until his final season. Could the 1984-1988 Jets have achieved more with a Bill Walsh/Bill Parcells/Dick Vermeil/Joe Gibbs type? Perhaps, or maybe what they because was all that they could be. I think it's worth questioning, but I also don't think the Joe Walton era was all that bad either.
Mickey Shuler had a really nice career and I feel that he was very good, but it seems to me that the Jets should've gotten him involved in their passing game a lot sooner than they did. At least he a had an extremely productive 5 year run.
I'm a huge Jets fan and a lot of their draft choices were downright terrible
If it wasn't for Adam Gase and Richie Kotite, Bruce Coslet would be an easy pick for worst head coach in NY Jets history
lou holtz.
Love the stories you upload...hoping to get some context!
Growing up in NY I've watched the Jets stink it up season after season. But I can honestly say Coslet and Kotite were the the 2 WORST coaches ever!! (Thank God I'm a STEELER fan). Some may remember this quote....."HEY SHULER YOU BETTER HOPE I DON'T GET BACK IN THERE, IMA KICK YO ASS"
(Lawrence Taylor)
I was thinking 🧐 the same thing
Gase was arguably worse. Kotite had a much better winning percentage and Coslet at least found work for another decade as a coordinator for various teams. Gase ruined the Jets so badly he can't find work as a towel boy in the NFL these days.
Cam Cameron says hold my beer.
Explore this comment:
"I can fart farther than you can kick!!" - Walt Michaels about Chuck Ramsey
What about Richard Caster ; one of Namaths receivers
There's a name from the way back machine !
The minute you named him i do remember him , he was pretty damn good
Shuler was still a great tight end when he went to Philly, but Jackson was the featured starter, so there was no way Schuler could get in the game.
I think if Shuler would have gone to another team as a starter, and not as a quality backup ( as in Philly) he would have continued with his high reception numbers. Great video.
Shuler Not Schuler. Shuuuuuler
@@d0nKsTaH thanks, correction made😅
I didn't know Bubbles was a head coach before stealing shopping carts
3:09 to 3:12 I TOTALLY see what you did there! 🤣 🤣 🤣
The roster cut is the deepest.
6:12
His right leg looks fucked with his foot facing the wrong way
Training staff: hmmm yes this left knee though
6:16 Shuler: no my right leg dumbassess
Training staff: o
All things being equal Shuler was not only better than boyer but way better.
LT- "Hey Shuler, you better hope I never get back in there. I'm gonna kick your #@%$in' @ss!!"
I'm from NJ, so I remember Mickey Shuler, but most people probably only know about him from Lawrence Taylor micced up.
Side note: The best team Walt Michaels ever had was the '84-'85 New Jersey Generals.
I really hate to ask this, but is this a response video to the Lions a few days ago releasing veteran Dan Mulbach on his 40th birthday?
I would love to know what led Coslet to make this move. It's not as if Boyer was some superstar in the making or anything.
Know that Lawernce Taylor wanted to kick his ass in a game between the NYJ and the NYG.......
How on Earth did Bruce Coslet ever get the Jets HC job?
4-12 isn’t a disaster for the Jets.That is an above average season for them.
Richard Caster is the Jets best TE ever.
So Coslett decided to build a career blocking tight end into a reciever over a guy whom avg what took his replacement 3 years to compile?😑😑😑 .... Yeah that's the Jets for you..
Shuler knew his time was coming to an end I know he did and expected them to draft a TE in 91'
New York selects
Johnny Mitchell
Tight End, Nebraska
Bavaro ended up closing out his career with a few unremarkable seasons with the Eagles as well.
BTW it's Mark Bo-yay, get it right 😉😋
I would have to agree that richard caster was probably best jets te but this would set up the browning nagle era for the jets 😂
Mickey was great . But I don’t know , I think I might give the best te tag to Anthony Becht.
Bruce Coslet was such an awful coach.......did he EVER coach any NFL team that ever won a big game ???
I think everyone would agree the win against Miami to get into the playoffs in 1991 was his best moment...maybe his only good one lol
"While it was only a sprained knee..." No, this is what full ligament tears were called before MRI's became standard. There is no other reason he would have missed the rest of the season.
The 1989 JETS were a putrid team, 4-12 and that doesn't even show how bad that team was
4-12 and felt more like a 2-14 team. Must have been quite a stunning collapse after 8 wins and knocking the Giants out of contention on the final day in 1988 (more like the Giants played themselves out of it). And losing their final game 37-0 in an empty home stadium was a microcosm of that clown show.
@@webstedge1099 The final game of 89, oh man I think maybe 10-12,000 fans showed up in a 76,000 max stadium. It was Christmas Eve & about 12 degrees out and that was maybe as bad a Jets loss as far as just being non competitive as there ever was. Again, 37-0 and that didn’t even tell you how bad that game was.
@@rustykuntz94 Totally a "one last embarrassment" moment to end the year. I read somewhere that Walton actually had toilet paper rolls and other stuff thrown at him after that game went final. I think they should've listened to the "Joe Must Go"'s, fired him during the 0-5 October, and brought in an interim coach, rather than keeping the lame ducks and letting the team sink to the kinds of depths it did. If the Falcons hadn't outtanked them 7-27 on Thanksgiving weekend, the Jets would've gotten the #1 overall draft pick.
The day after that Jets' goose egg, the Giants (victims of the Jets' spoiler in '88) put the finishing touches on a 12-4 bounce-back season by beating the Raiders 34-17 and clinching the division in front of 70,000.
@@webstedge1099 Spot on and in researching back (memory is usually great but little Mistake) I saw that last game was on Sat 12/23/89 and as you said Giants played the next day Christmas Eve 89 beating the Raiders but then losing in the divisional round to the Rams in OT in the “Flipper Anderson” game.
Walton should have been fired after 88 but because they beat the G Men after the emotional speech from Leon Hess he decided to keep him as he did have another 2 years left on a contract I think. Steinberg & Coslet came along. They tinkered with the colors/uni’s adding that black into that (1978-89/90-97) era of Jets colors/logo. Cleaned house releasing or trading most of the vets who were left like Mickey Shuler , Wesley Walker, Roger Vick (he could go haha) and others. Marty Lyons and Dan Alexander retired. Bad bad team in 89
Rich Kotite is generally considered the Jets worst coach of all time. But Bruce Coslet wasn't far behind. Not only was he clueless about running a team, he was an arrogant SOB to boot.
IMO the 1989 Jets were worse than even the Kotite era teams. While the '95 and '96 teams were worse recordwise, they were kind of expected to suck. I don't think that anyone could have foreseen them falling off the cliff the way they did in '89, especially after knocking the Giants out of the playoff race in '88.
I would think Coslet getting rid of Jets' All Pro safety Eric McMillan, who was the son of a St.Louis offensive line man. That was more of a shocking cut, and very acrimonious. And Bruce Coslet wasn't a very good coah with both the Jets or Bengals, was he
There is a saying better to cut a player a year early, than a year late. There wasn't a salary cap at that time. But, it's clear that Shuler was at the end of his career. Coslet, a former TE, lost respect as a HC by lying. No wonder he didn't do well as the Jets HC! Though Steinberg dying didn't help.
With all of the questionable offensive moves Coslet made, it's remarkable he almost won a superbowl.
What was the benefit of doing that?
M-E-S-S! Mess! Mess! Mess!
Dude you really need to get a better microphone or at least be in a room with less echo
Its hard to compare eras, especially for positions like TE but Richzrd Caster was a much better TE.
Al Toon
The Jets should have fired Coslet.
I can never ever have any sympathy for the Jets. Not just because of my name but because no matter how horrible they are they still somehow manage to beat my team anyway. Half the '80 team's 4 wins came over the Dolphins. The 4-win '89 and '92 teams beat the Dolphins. So did the 3-win '95 team. The 4-win '07 team swept Miami because the Dolphins were even worse. Even the 1-15 '96 team took 14-0 leads over the Dolphins in both games before losing. It's infuriating to me. 🤬🤬🤬
Does the name A J Duhe ring any bells? Mud Bowl. Brutal Jets loss at the hands of the Dolphins. Fake spike? Yep, there’s another. I think Miami has had the last laugh quite a few times, too. 😁
Oh no.....they dumped a TE
Not even the best TE in the AFC. Ozzie Newsome and Todd Christiansen.
I stopped being a jets fan when they cut Mickie Shuler
Who's Rickie ?
Sadly, this was not the shock... just another Bruce Coslet screwup... Coslet was handed a pretty decent Jets team and yet the teams greatest weaknesses... coaching decisions.... as a Bills fan... we loved Bruce Coslet... but I'm sure Jets fans... still are burning his likeness in effigy...
The Jets are a miserable franchise
And yet somehow under Coslet the Jets made the playoffs in '91. Just sayin'. That alone makes him not one of the worst coaches in Jets history let alone NFL history.
Made it with an 8-8 record. It was a gift.
HESS = Horrible Every Single Season!
Although the Steelers will always be my team, I gotta say I loved those Jets uniforms of the 80s along with the Bucs outfits of the 80s, the Giants outfits, the Falcons outfits, the Broncos outfits, and the Rams outfits. I loved 80s uniforms. Nowadays...eeeeehhhhhhhh......
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