MITTENS VS GM BEN FINEGOLD

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  • čas přidán 5. 01. 2023
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Komentáře • 326

  • @josueramirez7247
    @josueramirez7247 Před rokem +391

    It is so cool to see Ben use his full powers of concentration. Usually when he's playing against weaker opponents he doesn't have to buckle down and stay quiet.

    • @DavidRa73
      @DavidRa73 Před rokem +12

      I do like this much more than the normal deprecation and sh** talking. But it's Ben''s channel not mine!

    • @TheHadMatters
      @TheHadMatters Před rokem +2

      @@DavidRa73 40 minute games are probably not something he can deliver every time he logs on, even if he enjoys it. There's a reason pros prefer to spend time playing bullet when they aren't preparing for tournaments.

  • @kentlofgren
    @kentlofgren Před rokem +406

    Noone can erase the historical fact that you beat Mittens as black. You're incredible, Ben.

    • @armstrongarmstrong3089
      @armstrongarmstrong3089 Před rokem +13

      Literally he beat engine stronger than houdini he is a monster Gm

    • @maestrosock9360
      @maestrosock9360 Před rokem +31

      Mittens at this time was nerfed.

    • @armstrongarmstrong3089
      @armstrongarmstrong3089 Před rokem +2

      @@maestrosock9360 you just jealous that's all and most probably you using engine against people's in games and now youbl terrifying that you gonna lose even with the engine in your side

    • @armstrongarmstrong3089
      @armstrongarmstrong3089 Před rokem +1

      @@mikebyrne4557 stop using 2 accounts

    • @maestrosock9360
      @maestrosock9360 Před rokem

      @@armstrongarmstrong3089 How does this fact suggest jealousy? And how does it suggest that I’m an engine cheater? You are mentally ill.

  • @ravecrab
    @ravecrab Před rokem +252

    Winning with black after playing the Sicilian. Very, very impressive.

    • @jarirepo1172
      @jarirepo1172 Před rokem +5

      The thing is, bot always plays fast, but human has as much time to use as one wants to. So it's not impossible to win but certainly requires playing good. EDIT: I chuckle at people in chat, Hikaru plays quite fast and manages to play well enough to draw, Finegold here spends time and wins. Nothing to see here folks, Mittens simply plays instantly, even bots are beatable when they are made to do that.

    • @cococop6679
      @cococop6679 Před rokem +9

      @@jarirepo1172 You do realise that computers also use opponent’s time right? If the computers don’t magically have every single move prepared for in advance, it simply makes the calculations in Ben’s time, thus the moves are made instantly due to the faster calculation speed of computers.
      Mittens seems to have had a change in ELO since Hikaru played. If that assumption is correct, that’s most likely why Hikaru drew and Ben won. They played different bots, not the fact that the bot played instantly lol.

    • @FutbolDePasillo
      @FutbolDePasillo Před rokem

      With his wife talking out loud near him

    • @TommyLikeTom
      @TommyLikeTom Před 7 měsíci

      the computer definitely does precalculate before you move. @@cococop6679

  • @CnR12345
    @CnR12345 Před rokem +105

    “Theoretically, you could be banned.” -Karen

    • @CnR12345
      @CnR12345 Před rokem

      I’m commenting (again) to congratulate Ben. Keep up the good work, Ben! 2923… wtf

    • @Katzendaugs
      @Katzendaugs Před rokem +3

      Banned in theory, but not in practice.

    • @prot07ype87
      @prot07ype87 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Still theory.

  • @-_Nuke_-
    @-_Nuke_- Před rokem +112

    Someone in the chat said to -Karen- Ben:
    "Stop thinking she's trying to talk"
    At Re8 someone said:
    "Probably a meow-slip"
    xD
    Edit: Wow he won!
    Here's the game
    1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. Be2 e6 7. h3 Bh5 8. O-O cxd4 9. cxd4 Nc6 10. Nc3 Qd6 11. Bg5 Be7 12. Qb3 O-O 13. Bxf6 Bxf6 14. Ne4 Qe7 15. Nxf6+ Qxf6 16. Qxb7 Bxf3 17. Bxf3 Nxd4 18. Qxa8 Rxa8 19. Bxa8 h5 20. Rae1 g5 21. Be4 g4 22. hxg4 hxg4 23. Re3 Kg7 24. Bd3 Qg5 25. Rc1 f5 26. Rc7+ Kf6 27. b4 Qf4 28. Rh7 Kg6 29. Rxa7 Kf6 30. Rh7 Kg6 31. Rh8 Kg7 32. Ra8 Kf6 33. Rc8 Qd6 34. a3 f4 35. Re1 g3 36. Re8 f3 37. Rg8 Ne2+ 38. Kf1 fxg2+ 39. Kxg2 Nf4+ 40. Kf3 Nxd3 41. Re3 gxf2 42. Ke2 f1=Q+ 43. Kxf1 Qf4+ 44. Ke2 Nc1+ 45. Kd2 Qd4+ 46. Kxc1 Qxe3+ 47. Kb2 e5 48. Rf8+ Ke7 49. Rc8 e4 50. Rc7+ Kd6 51. Rh7 Qd2+ 52. Kb3 e3 53. Rh6+ Ke7 54. Ka4 e2 55. Rh1 e1=Q 56. Rxe1+ Qxe1 57. Kb3 Kd6 58. a4 Kd5 59. a5 Qa1 60. Kc2 Kc4 61. Kd2 Kd4 62. Ke2 Ke4 63. Kf2 Qb2+ 64. Kg3 Qe2 65. Kh4 Kf4 66. Kh3 Qf2 67. a6 Qg3#
    Ben found many engine moves, very impressive! And the position with f3, g3 was poetic! Go Ben!

  • @johnybalohny
    @johnybalohny Před rokem +168

    I like that Ben had a scrunched up thinking face all game.

    • @awpmerst
      @awpmerst Před rokem +5

      his face kinda twitching at 23:35, wonder why
      seems like hes trying to make it stop, hope hes alright

    • @-_Nuke_-
      @-_Nuke_- Před rokem +24

      @@awpmerst The tooth hurts!

    • @johnybalohny
      @johnybalohny Před rokem +2

      @@awpmerst I think that's just his deep thought face, and his lip tightens as he thinks of different things. A friend of mine puts his thumb up to his tooth, and raises his upper lip similar to Ben when he thinks of something deeply, I think we all have unique sorts of facial expessions when doing something intense.

    • @awpmerst
      @awpmerst Před rokem +1

      @@johnybalohny I would accept this as true but I watch him alot and its usually more relaxed its never been that twitchy or stuck. Im not saying hes on drugs or something but maybe there is dehydration or other minor metabolic issue.
      It might sound like im overreacting but facial twitching is usually indicative of something

    • @johnybalohny
      @johnybalohny Před rokem +1

      @@awpmerst I'll admit you could be correct, I don't know much about that, I always thought of it as his unique sort of tick.

  • @KevinChantal
    @KevinChantal Před rokem +77

    Ben played fine and the video was gold

  • @PkGam
    @PkGam Před rokem +122

    All the times you have claimed to be bad at chess got thrown out the window when you became one of the few to beat Mittens without a engine, lol! Huge congrats on this!

    • @thatloserpig
      @thatloserpig Před rokem +15

      Fr this is so wholesome and crazy that this guy casually beat mittens

    • @mikeog2617
      @mikeog2617 Před 8 měsíci

      Anyone that Reaches GM level can't be bad lol

  • @MasterrFlamaster
    @MasterrFlamaster Před rokem +27

    2:30 we hear a chess GM sing a Cypress Hill chorus while he's playing a super strong chess engine modeled after a cat named Mittens. Truly this is the greatest timeline

  • @lukahj
    @lukahj Před rokem +42

    Go Ben!

  • @ukymon
    @ukymon Před rokem

    Fun to watch. Thanks y'all

  • @dankokozar
    @dankokozar Před rokem +1

    Super interesting and funny. Thank you!

  • @cooperjudson5807
    @cooperjudson5807 Před rokem +58

    Another great win for humans over cats!

  • @nunyabusiness8538
    @nunyabusiness8538 Před rokem +15

    Dude had no idea what he was up against and walked through it no problem lol

  • @sirbruce70
    @sirbruce70 Před rokem +26

    Great job Ben!

  • @PaulFCalder
    @PaulFCalder Před rokem +16

    Man mittens is really making the rounds on stream and CZcams, must be worth a lot of views.

  • @theredwisper6484
    @theredwisper6484 Před rokem +5

    this is amazing

  • @15kalas15
    @15kalas15 Před rokem +1

    that was actually sick

  • @Klatubarada1979
    @Klatubarada1979 Před rokem +1

    Well done!

  • @bluesroadbackingtracks1999

    Ben, you're the hope of humanity💯💯💯

  • @vasilisdimitriou
    @vasilisdimitriou Před rokem +1

    Really excellent game. More games with mittens please!

  • @bk_emeritus5400
    @bk_emeritus5400 Před rokem +7

    I was there! Go Ben!

  • @hollowman1345
    @hollowman1345 Před rokem

    I really enjoyed that game and I’m sorry I doubted that you would beat it on your first attempt. Fantastic chess. Also glad you played for the win. 👍👍

  • @J0Sh1p
    @J0Sh1p Před rokem +5

    What a game... well played Ben !

  • @BornInOz
    @BornInOz Před rokem +1

    Way to go Ben!

  • @u.v.s.5583
    @u.v.s.5583 Před rokem +19

    Today I learned something new. I didn't know GM Finegold could crush Mittens himself.

  • @zacharysherry2910
    @zacharysherry2910 Před rokem +2

    I insanely good as usual Ben. This is the best game I've seen played against mittens!

  • @sawyer9times
    @sawyer9times Před rokem +5

    Go Ben!!!

  • @TheMg49
    @TheMg49 Před rokem

    Nice game!

  • @cmdrfun1
    @cmdrfun1 Před rokem +6

    Karen making fun of Nancy Grace was the best part of this video

  • @Figgy20000
    @Figgy20000 Před rokem +24

    It's crazy that Ben even outplayed Stockfish at certain parts of the game.

    • @TheHigherSpace
      @TheHigherSpace Před rokem +4

      Mittens is a weaker Komodo it's not stockfish at all ..

    • @Figgy20000
      @Figgy20000 Před rokem +25

      @@TheHigherSpace It's not that he outplayed Mittens, it's that he outplayed Stockfish in the analysis at some points in the game. Stockfish suggests a different move until it sees Bens, then it agrees with Ben and changes it's mind.
      He played this entire game near perfect and it's not surprising he won considering this fact when other top GMs have been lucky to get draws.

    • @maurorios2447
      @maurorios2447 Před 6 měsíci +1

      3:42 he used engine

  • @hermancharlesserrano1489

    Ben Finegold referencing Cypress Hill, now that’s something I didn’t expect 😊

    • @michaelbauers8800
      @michaelbauers8800 Před 3 měsíci

      His brain is crammed with lyrics from all sorts of songs.

  • @svenpoelmans3688
    @svenpoelmans3688 Před rokem +1

    "They found them there in their home" Evil Laugh

  • @cengizeren366
    @cengizeren366 Před rokem +5

    yayz!! good job!

  • @davidweanker6505
    @davidweanker6505 Před rokem +9

    "no time control... well, than I wont lose". good one but mostly true.

  • @SeanLynchXY
    @SeanLynchXY Před rokem

    Thanks!

  • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
    @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur Před rokem +5

    is this game going to be covered in the 1 o' clock class?
    I'd like to think so..

  • @darylallen2485
    @darylallen2485 Před rokem +3

    Well done Ben! That was awesome!

  • @weignerleigner3037
    @weignerleigner3037 Před rokem +1

    Damn good job

  • @jacobmosovich
    @jacobmosovich Před rokem +2

    At 8:38 instead of moving the queen id have sacrificed the knight in a check. White pawn takes i take open up the kings file. If the rook makes the same move to c1 unstoppable mate. Queen checks king if he moves to the corner the pawn mates if the king tries to hide behind the pawn queen to g2 check. King to e1 queen to g1. King sacrifices the pawn to protect the rook moving to d2. Queen to f2 check and captured pawn. The rook is free to take and g1 is covered on blacks king file so no checking out of it.
    Any counter arguments with my logic would be appreciated. Im 1800 in chess puzzles.

  • @kevinstrand4596
    @kevinstrand4596 Před rokem +1

    Wow, pretty great game by Ben

  • @ptpilate
    @ptpilate Před rokem

    I'm happy to hear that Ben listens to Grand Funk Railroad.

  • @rickytampubolon4958
    @rickytampubolon4958 Před rokem

    This is super cool Go Ben!!!!

  • @Compassiron1
    @Compassiron1 Před rokem +15

    I assumed Ben had actually been Mittens all along.

  • @zeus1141
    @zeus1141 Před rokem +2

    no freaking way! D: My mad respect to you Ben. Congrats!

  • @venkatachengalvala4289
    @venkatachengalvala4289 Před rokem +1

    The queen and knight vs two rooks and bishop middlegame was balanced or even a bit better for black (at least until black lost a pawn). With multiple pieces on the board, a queen is better than two rooks; with a single pair of pieces for each side it depends. After white gained a pawn, I don't know; I feel that white is narrowly winning but it's tricky with the queen and knight playing tricks.

  • @Ayaengels
    @Ayaengels Před rokem +1

    Go BEN !!!

  • @mustafaismail3752
    @mustafaismail3752 Před rokem

    Amazing, nice to see you winning that cat

  • @leeii337
    @leeii337 Před rokem +9

    whats the difference between magnus live games and Finegold?
    Magnus comes across as arrogant, Ben doesn't, and Ben has both intelligence AND beauty on his side.

    • @drdre4397
      @drdre4397 Před rokem +2

      I mean, every chess player has an ego and Ben has shown his many times. I never understand the point of comments like yours, because not only are they factually untrue, but they do nothing but drive needless divisiveness and bitterness.
      I'd say what you are perceiving as arrogance is more so confidence on display.
      You can have personal preferences for which streamer you enjoy more, but I never understand why people choose the ignorant put down route.
      Magnus is great, Ben is great, hikaru is great, agadmator is great, danya is great, gotham is great, and the list goes on.
      They are all bringing more eyes to what they love, chess. People can have their personal preferences that don't make any of them worse than one and other.

  • @hcshenoy
    @hcshenoy Před 20 dny

    @GMBenjaminFinegold fxg2 at 20:49 works? If Kxg2, you take the bishop. If Kxe2, check with the queen, take the rook and promote?

  • @shanastroskyphazer8172
    @shanastroskyphazer8172 Před rokem +7

    Great game ! well played Ben ! Mittens getting distracted by Karen purrhaps !?

  • @jasondeanhallquist8382

    I agree with the words of a wise subscriber, you have won my praise and admiration Sir.

  • @MrScott-pq1zu
    @MrScott-pq1zu Před rokem

    Very cool!

  • @newterry2008
    @newterry2008 Před rokem

    Welldone GM BEN FINEGOLD!! The experience killed the cat!!!

  • @SahnigReingeloetet
    @SahnigReingeloetet Před rokem +2

    Ben the type of playa to say „I dunno“ and then play the most brilliant move ever

  • @user-pl6hc4kj1o
    @user-pl6hc4kj1o Před rokem

    Fun fact, in the 'cat game' scene from super troopers, he actually says "meow" eleven times, not ten.

  • @TommyLikeTom
    @TommyLikeTom Před 7 měsíci

    It's cute how she says "oh right I see" when you explain

  • @jesgluckner
    @jesgluckner Před rokem +53

    I'm more of a dog person.

  • @Zamiroh
    @Zamiroh Před rokem +2

    The problem with all these videos is we don't know what rating mittens was at. From my understanding mittens has been adjusted multiple times since release on how difficult the program is.

    • @toaster4693
      @toaster4693 Před rokem +2

      Yeah I wish they would've left it alone. It's leading to a lot of confusion.

  • @cincinnatidrones8979
    @cincinnatidrones8979 Před rokem

    well played Mr Finegold.

  • @monkerud2108
    @monkerud2108 Před rokem +1

    Very nice, the knight move was cool

  • @ponseltangan5477
    @ponseltangan5477 Před rokem +4

    38:55 only winning move

  • @alancosta4760
    @alancosta4760 Před rokem +1

    I love Ben he's hilarious but not that time he seemed pissed off 🤣

  • @stevesteve788
    @stevesteve788 Před rokem

    How many times did u play mittens before? That was amazing

    • @drdre4397
      @drdre4397 Před rokem +1

      This was his first go at mittens

  • @bhaiyu1499
    @bhaiyu1499 Před rokem +5

    This shows what caliber player Anand was a world champion against with.

  • @badmoon4547
    @badmoon4547 Před rokem

    Ben is a beast. Good God

  • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
    @GlobalWarmingSkeptic Před 2 měsíci

    Looked like Mittens was winning most of the game until Ben found a fortress and then Mittens just self destructed.

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin Před rokem +3

    Excellent job! Good demonstration of Queen v 2xRook: why, all other things being equal, the Queen is usually better.

    • @peristiloperis7789
      @peristiloperis7789 Před rokem +1

      Ben was actually lost, but the cat made some mistakes in the ending.

    • @abcdefghilihgfedcba
      @abcdefghilihgfedcba Před rokem +3

      @@peristiloperis7789
      Ben was never lost. He actually missed a win once and potentially a few other times too, he was better from the opening and never let go of advantage.

  • @georges64
    @georges64 Před rokem

    Impressing!

  • @TheMarto0804
    @TheMarto0804 Před rokem

    Cool game Ben.

  • @TheHigherSpace
    @TheHigherSpace Před rokem +1

    I'm guessing this is Komodo that they made few years back to play "aggressive against humans" so it's not a 3000 engine ..

  • @Bradley_UA
    @Bradley_UA Před rokem

    > this isn't going to CZcams
    Did you put it out just to spite him?

  • @willzang3000
    @willzang3000 Před rokem

    i just came from 'smack talkin beginner beatdown 8 years ago' bennyFG and the contrast is cattening

  • @RajnaTMS
    @RajnaTMS Před rokem +1

    GOAT !!!

  • @thomasdaturtle8216
    @thomasdaturtle8216 Před rokem

    are you on twitch?

  • @anonnomous6223
    @anonnomous6223 Před rokem

    LETS GO BEN WOOOOO

  • @toaster4693
    @toaster4693 Před rokem +11

    Mittens had the difficulty lowered quite a bit to only have an 84% accuracy. The old version was around 95-96% accuracy I think.

    • @ciretaorg
      @ciretaorg Před rokem +5

      this morning, I played mittens, and it was 95% accuracy again

    • @twitter.comelomhycy
      @twitter.comelomhycy Před rokem

      Really what? Explain to me I'm confused

  • @mikahamari6420
    @mikahamari6420 Před rokem +2

    Congratulations Ben for winning! 🏆

  • @coleyamos
    @coleyamos Před rokem +1

    Pewponmychest subscribed. Hurray!

  • @wesleythomas9131
    @wesleythomas9131 Před rokem

    Bens the GOAT confirmed

  • @Bai_Su_Zhen
    @Bai_Su_Zhen Před rokem +1

    All the people saying Ben is the worst GM have been real quiet since this dropped.

  • @alm5851
    @alm5851 Před rokem

    Go ben!

  • @osamudiamenazamegbe5337

    go ben!

  • @bizona.3387
    @bizona.3387 Před rokem +3

    Impressive Ben, playing the Sicilian while Karen's talking about serial killers and taxes on $25 dollar donations 👏👏

  • @redpenink12
    @redpenink12 Před rokem

    How come you don’t play some slow time controls online instead of your blitz the whole time?

  • @preadaptation
    @preadaptation Před rokem

    Thanks

  • @yyyyyk
    @yyyyyk Před rokem +18

    I was trying to ignore Karen's story about the serial killer, because I'm not interested in stuff like that and I was more interested in Ben's game, but as she kept talking I found myself drawn into the story and saying "What do you mean his wife believed in him?? Despite the evidence?" 🤣🤣🤣
    Cool game, Mittens is furrrocious
    but Ben killed it like the stray cat that it is. Go Ben!!! 🤣

  • @waveexistence5742
    @waveexistence5742 Před rokem +2

    I always knew Ben was 1000x better than I am but I also thought Mittens was 1000x better than the average GM. Really impressive win, Finegold is a beast!

  • @aaroningroum458
    @aaroningroum458 Před rokem

    Im pausing at 19:33 knight to e2 is forced mate by promoting your pawn or back ranking with the queen? here to seeing what happens.

  • @TheUncutAngel
    @TheUncutAngel Před rokem

    very upset ben didn't give mittens the chance to play f3.

  • @edmundosilvamartins
    @edmundosilvamartins Před rokem +1

    can someone please tell me why at min 40:42 QF3 is not a winning move?

  • @twitter.comelomhycy
    @twitter.comelomhycy Před rokem

    Who's the person talking about Ben's videos on every stream!

  • @Iamwood1005
    @Iamwood1005 Před rokem

    Ben is mittens secretly

  • @maciexyn6069
    @maciexyn6069 Před rokem

    0:08, yeah she choose hardest mode with random colors

  • @coosoorlog
    @coosoorlog Před rokem +1

    Humans are definitely better at defending obviously lost positions than (the normal) chess engines because the chess engines aren't likely to create complications in a losing position that might make the opponent to slip up but rather just draw the game out. It of course depends on the position but I would rather play a well known theoretical endgame win against a stockfish than against magnus or hikaru.

  • @kite7838
    @kite7838 Před rokem +1

    Ben plays like Morphy

  • @NicholasAlm
    @NicholasAlm Před rokem +2

    I giggled when that person in chat wrote some Greek and the bot said "Write in normal letters!". Would it have been fine if the person wrote Italian instead? I'm not sure what normal letters are (obviously I realize it meant write in English)

    • @radLad_
      @radLad_ Před rokem +3

      it didn't mean english. it just meant the characters. content can't be reviewed/flagged when the characters aren't part of normal ASCII set. so they have to enforce normal lettering, regardless of language/content.

  • @paparoevlogs2524
    @paparoevlogs2524 Před rokem +1

    "I was black that's why it took me so long" pure legend!

  • @biggsweaty
    @biggsweaty Před rokem

    YES

  • @tacticisacting3702
    @tacticisacting3702 Před rokem

    at around 8 minutes, what about nf6+ ?
    Edit: Oh i guess ben was looking at it too, there is bf1 down the line.