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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
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Time Consuming ep #53 is here, and today I’ll go over a song that has been requested many times in the comments called: ‘Contortionist’ by Their Dogs Were Astronauts.
This song takes the guest vs host system and exploits it to its limits with some deliberate orchestration ideas and an advanced rhythmic approach.
'Contortionist' original song:
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Intro by Sharon Renold (@sharonrenold on Instagram) and myself
Intro music by Shwesmo (@shwesmo on Instagram)
#musiceducation #contortionist #polyrhythms
0:00 intro
1:13 intro riff
2:17 drums in, oh boy
3:29 some theory
3:52 examples
4:50 drum breakdown
7:14 section 2
9:46 final analysis
10:54 self plug
11:35 patreon supporters
Hope that one day The Contortionist come out with a song called Their Dogs Were Astronauts
Haha!
They definitely should
YES
Laika
now I'm dreaming of them touring and playing both songs together
Dude that's so amazing! 🔥🤘🏻
Let's talk about tracking drums, that sounds like a cool project!
Also a little more insights into how we wrote this:
The drums are programmed and we didn't "think" about this groove. We started out with the guitar intro and played the drum groove over it on our midi keyboard by instinct because it felt like the right feeling for this "riff".
We didn't analyze what was really going on until later, haha
yogev-TDWA collab - how cool would that be!
ohhhhhhhhhhh I'm so down.
Also, yeah I don't claim to know how you guys got to do it, I just analyze the result hahahaha
I'd love to track whatever you guys need !
You guys are going to make the coolest band ever
Are you fans of Cosmo?
haha that's funny, just coming up with a sick polymeter on accident
Glad Neon Theatre is getting the praise it well deserves. A true masterpiece.
Plot twist: The drummer was actually just listening to a metronome with noise cancelling headphones, and they accidentally put in the wrong bpm
I'd never heard of this artist, and I'm really liking them! Thanks for the video!
On a completely unrelated note, my first concert was The Contortionist with God is an Astronaut.
thaaaaaaanks!🤘🏻
and haha, those band names and ours is such a sweet coincidence
I like how it works out so that the drum part ends with a countdown of 5, 4, 3, 2 sixteenth notes each time
Loved this video. At 3:15 they imply a new pulse of every dotted eighth note (3 sixteenths), making you feel like the tempo sped up by 33%.
was just going to share this with you lol
i wish you made more videos
I've got one:
What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?
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Homeless
BRING IT ON
Hah, as someone who dabbles in card magic, I’ve heard that one about magicians too.
Great video!!! At 3:15 the length of each clean guitar note changes to 3/16 (4/16 before) and plays it 22 times so 3*22=66 quarter notes length for the clean guitar pattern. BUT at 3:32 we now understand that the length of the clean guitar pattern follow a simple 4/4 drum so 4*16=64 quarter notes so it's different than 66, 2 quarter notes are missing in the clean guitar pattern. That's where the trick is, the guitar doesn't repeat 22 times 3/16 notes but 20 times 3/16 and twice 2/16 (3*20+2*2=64) ! :)
PS : I'm doing a PhD in math and music and I really love your videos 🤘
hahahahaahah I can tell !
Habibi, I don't know what I enjoy more - your brilliant insight on the music, or your clever video production and humor. You're a real talent. Kol hakavod achi.
Toda toda!
If you ever get the chance you should try doing one of these breakdowns on a Car Bomb song. Their rhythms are always insane and constantly fluctuating.
Technically not possible with a lot of their songs because they don’t write/record with a metronome or with time signatures in mind
Only band I've ever seen where I had to leave because I had a migraine from the set.
Yup it's coming !
It's amazing how do you can explain advanced musical theory in a simple way that we can understand so easily!! Congrats from Brazil!!!
I found TDWA some time earlier this year, I think, when I looked up "polyrhythms" on a whim on Spotify. The Contortionist was the first one on the first playlist I saw. Immediately fell in love, and now they're probably my top favorite band, which is saying something.
Don't you worry Yog.
I'll be there whenever you want. 🤘🏻
Happy 5th 16th note to you!
5ththhthsshssststtstshsshshtsshshsst 16hsststthshststtshhshsttsshsths
One of my favorite bands. Pretty cool to see them analyzed.
4:44 nice spin
this song crept into my spotify discover weekly list a few months ago, it has since become a mainstay in my playlist. Fun to see you having a go at it, and thanks ofr explaining those "random" hits
Absolutely love the vid as always! So excited to hear more people talking about this band. The breakdown at the end of "Wildfire" by them is completely mindbending and insane too and could make a good video at some point!
The bands Ni and Bisbâyé (especially Bisbâyé's Le Sens De La Fin) really push the guest-host stuff up a gear!
Any specific song ?
@@YogevGabay Athazagoraphobie by Ni. With Bisbâyé you could basically pick one at random, but Le Sens De La Fin (from the recent album of the same name) is particularly wild!
@@AidanMmusic96 really cool and weird stuff! 👍
@@AidanMmusic96 I checked both of these bands out. Ni is cool and I will listen to them more. Bisbaye has awful production and it is almost unlistenable.
@@Jazzguitar00 It's pretty dense, no doubt! I don't envy them for having to mix 2 guitars/2 basses/2 drummers.
Used to listen to this album all the time. Very happy to see this here
I knew they played live for a while without a drummer, and thought the drums were programmed on this album. Yogev said exactly what was on my mind at 11:00
This is awesome. Love the Shrek meme.
Clicked on this honestly for the sole hope that this was about TDWA. Great band.
You are the guy most resembling my musical taste. I cant count shit, but I love good rythms.
Never clicked so fast, knowing this song
Boi this song SLAPS
thaaaaanks! 🤘🏻
Sooooo stoooookeeed you did this one thanks
Ooooh nice to see TDWA in here !
I've been fucking with this song for a few years now, had no idea how to approach it theoretically until now. This one's a doozy for real
LMAO, I saw the thumbnail and was going to make a comment about the band. Turns out the video was about them!
Love it! I've sent this song to a few of my drummer friends in the past, it's so odd and interesting! I appreciate these videos a lot
Found a new favorite to listen to, thanks! I’m pretty new to the stuff-still mainly listening to Dream Theater, Animals As Leaders, etc.
dude, that was sick..
I'm going to go ahead and dub this new form of complicated writing style: "Fractal Time"
Glad to see you back, twisting our minds yet again!
Yoo I always wondered what was going on with that beginning! Great video
That was awesome, thanks for the analysis and the new music to listen to!
I just got your ad with shwesmo before the video and was very delightfully confused
not bad !
Ah Tampere jazz happening shirt, greetings from Tampere!
It was a great festival ! I played there a few years back. Loved it !
Nice t-shirt, thanks for your content
אתה המלך . היוצר תוכן האהוב עליי !! תודה על עוד סרטון :)
I'd really like to see you cover Pinnochio by Their Dogs Were Astronauts, the intro riff completely messes with my brain
that intro riff is totally random and has no rhythmical logic behind it 😂
it was improvised on synth to a click when we wrote it we learned it by practising it a million times.
@@TheirDogsWereAstronauts haha no wonder I can't figure it out. All the more reason to make Yogev try to figure it out 😂 Love your guys' music, keep doing what you do!
HAHAHAHAAH saved me a bunch of time right here !
On an unrelated note, this song makes a great alarm clock on your phone. My girlfriend hates it.
You gotta do Pandora's Box
That's such a groove
Awesome video and generally awesome stuff you put out. I'm a fan 😊 I look forward for new content from you :)
Your videos have been helping me write better grooves. Thank you so much!
Great to hear!
Ufff great video and great content as always! Big fan of you right here haha
I just discovered that song like 3 month ago or so and I knew there was some kind of emiola stuff happening but I didn’t know what exactly…..thanks to you and your channel I will enjoy even more this song know that I know what’s happening!🤘🏽
Awesome! Thank you!
Video number 3 requesting Spasm by Meshuggah. Sorry buddy but I can’t let this go 😭😭
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH ok ok I'll put it in the list
VERY cool!
Still fun to watch every single video you make, even though I barely can understand the explanations :) + ata totach al
melech !
AWESOME as always, bro! You have a huge fan from Brazil! Cheers! 👌👌
Thanks a lot!
Think we could get a rhythmic breakdown of the song 'Bonnie the Cat' by Porcupine Tree? The drums on that song are real interesting.
I've touched in about it here:
czcams.com/video/TWxRdsI5Be4/video.html
Amazing video as usual!!!
And this band sounds amazing, I knew their name but never listened to them (tbh I thought it was a parody band of God Is An Astronaut)
Great video as always!! I was hoping you would cover the breakdown section as well.
I may come back to it at some point !
At the song's 3:15 mark, the clean (?) guitar is playing constant 2 bars of 11/4 in 8th notes. BUT the 2nd bar is extended to a 13/4 with the crazy synth part starting from 11 for 3 quarter notes. The distorted guitar is playing in a 3-3-5 fashion in the 11/4 bar with the 3 being accented at 1 & 2 and the 5 accented at 1,2, 3 & 4.
Hmmm I might've overexplained.
all i can say is wow
Yup. Pretty cool song !
yeah!!! dude, where have you been?
Hard times, don't ask hahahaha
I really like your content and leared so much from it already. I was wandering if you could please break down the caudal lure by karnivool
OMG it's such a cool song
thanks man! 🔥
You should do "There Be Dragons" by CB Murdoc. Song sounds like it's slowing down without actually slowing down at the end of the phrases.
I second this! ❤️ ^
Their Dogs Were Astronauts - Replica
You ever think about doing any videos about Slugdge?
The opening of War Squids is proper tricky with the time signature
By the title of the video I thought of the band GOD IS AN ASTRONAUT. Not disappointed though.
4:14 Reminds me of Meshuggah for some reason
sorry I wrote wrong 🤦🏻🤦🏻
yogev keep up your work, you're genius an inspiration❤️❤️❤️
You got my attention. Proceed.
Nice plant
when the guest becomes the host!
YYEEESSSSS
At 3:15, the new pulse is established as 3/16 notes of the main tempo... I think.
YEESS
Jogev, brilliant as always. Actually I am not sure, which part is better, your rhythmic breakdowns or your aptly comments. Hope Tom is fine.
hahahahahaaha best. Tom will survive. At least I hope so.
אלוף
Also, can you analyze the main Wakanda theme and other beautiful polyrhythms in Black Panther?
I thought you'd never ask:
czcams.com/video/DRfnnEd22Do/video.html
that's wonderful ahahahah
Would love to hear your take on Sprite by Devin Townsend. Some incredible drumming from Morgan Agren.
He's so freaking good
Please hand feed me what the hell is going on in Valley of Smoke by Intronaut
man its been a while ...
Can you please do The Glitch by Breaking Orbit?
At the tail end of the beginning guitar riff, where the 16th notes are 3+3+2, could that also be heard as a quarter note triplet cell on beats 3 and 4?
Not really. It's VERY close, but it's not exactly that !
Hit the like button right after I started playing the video
Great video as always. the song is super cool and Tom is hilarious!
BTW, is the Guest vs. Host system something you invented or is it a global term that all musicians know ?
Thanks!
Hopppaaaaaaa
I came up with it.
Help me make it a standard.
Take over the world.
@@YogevGabay Will do! muhahaha!
The part at 3:15 somehow feels triplet-ish but at the same time does not…
Maybe it‘s 4/4 sub-divided into 5 but still every 4th note is played???
I don‘t know, my brain is fried and I’m gonna sleep now…
Really nice video though, thanks for making my…. „evening“(1am with alarm at 7)
ba dum tss
basically meshuggah
please, anything from iced earth
Hey can I make a request for your next video? Copper Wasp by Night Verses?
Will check it out
new videos please
Can you do a video explaining why drummers twirl sticks? Seems like it takes a lot of practice for doing something irrelevant musically.
finally talking about the real stuff !
I have a theory. It's training to not drop sticks while playing.
Alternative theory: all drummers have ADHD and can't handle the boredom of not hitting something with both hands the entire time. Just a theory.
Yababa
That's all fine and good, but where are the videos on avocados and mayonnaise?
If I upload those I'll be banned for hate speech.
@@YogevGabay :Ъ
isn't the intro riff a 4/4 with the last quarter note played as an eight note triplet?
I might not be able to explain it best but triplets should be evenly spaced out. The space between the last note and the downbeat is much shorter than the previous notes.
Try to play 9 notes in those 2 *beats trying to match the accents, you'll find the last 2 notes have to be rushed. (RLL RLL RLL)
@@wrytte but are you counting the pulse as quarters or eights? I feel the triplet if i count it in quarters, anyways i'll try what you said
@@cymapsis Quarters, but it wouldn't really matter for this specific thing. The issue is the note spacing, triplets are completely even whereas this figure is 3+3+2. At high tempos they do sound very similar (honestly I heard it as a triplet too until he pointed out the actual subdivision) but they're different enough that if you play one while everyone else is playing the other it'll sound extremely messy.
@@cymapsis quarter note triplets and dotted 8ths are are a fraction of a space apart, so it sounds tricky. I would recommend to slow it down and try playing 16th notes with the dotted eigth accents, and and then compare to eigth note triplets playing quarter triplet accent.
You may have explained it...
...but it still doesn't make sense! 🤯
The part in 3:15 is technically very similar to the intro, just with shorter notes, so it's not 4/4 with the melody in 4/16ths over drums in 5/16ths but 4/4 with the melody in 3/16ths over drums in also 3/16ths, which is clear in the part after when the melody stays in 3/16 but the drums play in 4/16 (with the kick drum combining both host and guest side). Now I kinda miss 4/4 with the melody in 3/16ths over drums in 5/16ths...
I didn't get the joke at the start
Why am I stupid?
אתה הולך לאורפנד לנד מחר?
ואללה הופעתי בדיוק ליד זה חחח
@@YogevGabay מה איפה אני יכול למצוא הופעות שלך