• BART continues new far... BART on Friday is installing the next set of its new fare gates in an attempt to crack down on people who try to cheat the system. Bob Redell reports.
The plexiglass gates are the best designed fare gates I've ever seen. I hope they become the new standard. LA Metro should install these throughout their system before the Olympics in 2028.
Nowadays, "cheating the system" seems to be a growing cultural value in the US. In some countries paying the fare is close to an honor system, with roving ticket-checkers (and stiff fines).
As wages stagnate and the cost of living rises, more and more Americans feel exploited and antagonized by “the system” so it makes sense that cheating (e.g. shoplifting, fare evasion) turns into a value.
@garrettjohnson3436 Doing the wrong thing is not a value to be promoted. It's wrong, and people know it. Nothing justifies regularly breaking the law. BTW, wages have gone up in the last two years higher than the rate of inflation. In California the minimum wage is now $20/hour for many of the larger restaurant chains.
Except DC Metro changed its policing laws and now evaders can be arrested or detained for failing to provide their name and street address if they are caught evading, whether it be jumping over or piggyback
Do more than one person try to barge through the gates on just one fare? Does someone try to closely follow a paying passenger without paying their own fare? Do families of 5 or 6 try to force their way through on just 1 or 2 fares?
These gates will prevent most of that behavior. The plexiglass gates are very difficult to push through for the average person. They are the best designed gates I've seen anywhere.
Watching this video, it's clear that "piggybacking" will still be possible. Unless every paying rider purposely walks slowly to prevent others from getting through before the gates close (yeah right), I don't see these new gates solving the fare evasion problem.
These gates are different. They can customize how quickly they close behind the paying customer. It will probably take some time to adjust the timing, but it will prevent many more fare evaders than before. Piggybacking is also less desirable to fare evaders than jumping over or going under a traditional turnstile.
The plexiglass gates are the best designed fare gates I've ever seen. I hope they become the new standard. LA Metro should install these throughout their system before the Olympics in 2028.
Nowadays, "cheating the system" seems to be a growing cultural value in the US. In some countries paying the fare is close to an honor system, with roving ticket-checkers (and stiff fines).
As wages stagnate and the cost of living rises, more and more Americans feel exploited and antagonized by “the system” so it makes sense that cheating (e.g. shoplifting, fare evasion) turns into a value.
They’re like that right upstairs with Muni. Lmao!
BART also has ticket checkers
@garrettjohnson3436 Doing the wrong thing is not a value to be promoted. It's wrong, and people know it. Nothing justifies regularly breaking the law.
BTW, wages have gone up in the last two years higher than the rate of inflation. In California the minimum wage is now $20/hour for many of the larger restaurant chains.
00:37 i thought he was gonna say "they are not to play with"😆
Just like DC Metro… when the Agency REFUSES to immediately address and arrest criminals, the criminals reign.
Except DC Metro changed its policing laws and now evaders can be arrested or detained for failing to provide their name and street address if they are caught evading, whether it be jumping over or piggyback
$90M?? Forget it. I could fill a swimming pool with fully kitted out S6Ls for that
You're not going to be able to design a subway system that is 100% asshole-proof, but this improvement will at least make a dent in the situation.
Do more than one person try to barge through the gates on just one fare? Does someone try to closely follow a paying passenger without paying their own fare? Do families of 5 or 6 try to force their way through on just 1 or 2 fares?
You could easily prevented that by adding 2 gates 6 feet apart from each other.
They Do.
Its impossible to stop every case.
The point of this is to stop most evasion, which it Does!!!!
These gates will prevent most of that behavior. The plexiglass gates are very difficult to push through for the average person. They are the best designed gates I've seen anywhere.
Nice
1:11 👍👍
Watching this video, it's clear that "piggybacking" will still be possible. Unless every paying rider purposely walks slowly to prevent others from getting through before the gates close (yeah right), I don't see these new gates solving the fare evasion problem.
God forbid BART put money toward something that actually works to improve the lives of transit riders.
It only works during busy time. Besides, nobody wants to have a man pushing themself into you when they exit.
These gates are different. They can customize how quickly they close behind the paying customer. It will probably take some time to adjust the timing, but it will prevent many more fare evaders than before. Piggybacking is also less desirable to fare evaders than jumping over or going under a traditional turnstile.
Vote liberal. This is what you get
Vote conservative, the whole system will get torn up for some highway
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@1:15 The guy said it's a cultural thing. Yes, it is. The cultures of blm and daca is called freeloading
the culture of "cheating the system" has been a thing since atleast the 70s and everyone is in on that
If they want to spout off about how their lives matter, they need to act the part. Stop giving people reasons to say that they don't.
90 million dollars… that’s BART’s entire operating revenue. These things cost more than fare evaders.
Over their operating lifespan (multiple years hopefully), they probably won't
It will probably be 4 year payback. They lose like $20 million to fair evaders. Also, it will help crime as it will be harder for vagrants to get in.
This isnt just for fare evasion, its good for security
Not over the lifetime of the gates.