Danny Murphy INSISTS England Have NOT Reached Their Maximum CAPABILITY At Major Tournaments! ❌🔥
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Simon Jordan, Jim White and Alex Crook are joined by Danny Murphy to debate if The FA need to replace Gareth Southgate before the 2026 World Cup.
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" he should be applauded and thanked for what he has done"
Took 5 mil a year and won absolutely zero.
Gee thanks
Agree. At this point it’s treasonous if he stays on. But worse than that, there’s already a lot of talk from the football elite about implanting him into the core of the FA if he leaves as a manager, ensuring losses for decades more to come.
Before Southgate, England had never been beyond the quarterfinals. He has overachieved. England has not achieved anything better than what he has given
@@marcopeelEngland have won the World Cup
@@wolftone4818 yeah when TV was black and white and Lesotho was legitimately part of the celebration.
Euro 96 anyone?
A manager instills his personality and thinking on the team. That is a Southgate team 100%. We took the kick off, straight back to Pickford who lumps it forward giving it to Spain. I knew immediately we would not win it. Only way to beat teams like Spain is to go at them and hurry them, press…press…press. Southgate has no flair, he didn’t as a player.
His player career has nothing to do with this
Agree about the kick off, Pickford goes long way too often, and so often to the obvious frustration of his teammates
Playing long ball while the best long passer Trent is on the bench, the right flank was a disaster yesterday both offensively and defensively.
@@MichaelWalldenof course it does
That's the way have always played it's not just Southgate. Long ball primitive football is English football.
Southgate’s time is up, 8 years of misery we’ve had under him. He’s had easy runs and has choked whenever he faces decent opposition, we have so much attacking talent and he plays defensive boring football and his in game management is diabolical. He should’ve been sacked a long time ago.
Let us not forget the kneeling fiasco
He hasn’t been outstanding but would they get a better manager?
Misery?? Getting your overhyped players to 2 finals in a row and WC semifinals 😂
@@tommymercer9174his managerial record before England only knew relegation. Southgate is at the bottom of the barrel, there are hundreds of better managers.
@@Triple_X_X look at the groups and routes to those finals, it’s laughable how perfect the conditions have been for Southgate yet he fails miserably every time.
Only thing worse than the performances by England this tournament was the tv punditry awful clueless
What do you expect when they take away the fabric of it and replace it with women and other box ticking people who know F all about football.
And France.
Yes no it wasn’t whinge bag
@@KittySofttpawsyou talk about female pundits but what about Ferdinand, Lampard and Richards who seemed to be watching a totally different game to the rest of the world. And then some people suggest Lampard could be the next England manager 🙄
@@OneOfManySams Those three all played at the highest level and won everything. Although I don't know what network/channel you're referring too.
That certainly beats some Karen spewing 💩 into the men's game with only experience in the women's game/Sunday league football.
These pundits are part of the problem too and do no different to Gareth.
Danny says that Kane and Walker shouldn’t be dropped regardless but they criticising Southgate for not doing that. People don’t want England to win, they never have. They just want “their” guy to be picked.
their*
75 mins suthgate was called a genius by itv comment it's sam materface, 20 mins later they said he needed to go
Nobody listens to Matterface he is just like Keown.
That guy just says what's in his ear, just a puppet. Like most tbh.
This was the same guy (i.e. Danny Murphy) that said Southgate would be perfect for Man United and should replace Ten Hag...and yet the latter has won 2 trophies in 3 finals whereas Southgate has won nothing after 2 finals. Now he does not think Southgate is good enough. Danny Murphy is either a troll or an idiot
I agree with him. I’d love SouthGate to go manager Yanited for a good decade 😂
I still don't know why Adam Wharton didn't play a single minute. An actual ball playing defensive midfielder. The closest thing we have to Rodri (obviously not at the same level but he's of the same mould). But instead we waste time on Gallagher and Trent then pretend that Mainoo is the glorious answer.
What makes you think Wharton is the answer?
Mainoo done more than rice,Gallagher and trent combined this tournament
Mainoo is a fantastic player...he's not the same as Wharton. More an 8 or double pivot 6. Wharton looks like he has legs for a single, progressive 6. Midfield needs to be: Mainoo right, Rice left and Wharton CDM
Mainoo has had a good tournament, Spain also realized that he was one of the few that would pick up the ball and his first instinct is turn and move or play the ball forward similar to what Fabian Ruiz does for them, the fact they nullified him so effectively tells you they saw and feared the threat he represented.
@@zinedinezidane4771 best match we have played in the last 2 months is the one friendly he played
Imagine if England scraped through a victory last night, as per usual
Imagine the plaudits/praise for Gareth… 🤢
Why is that interesting, we know
They'd be calling him the greatest international manager ever 😂
Imagine if Southgate got England to its second Euro final in a row but still only get hate and disrespect from the so called fans that obviously know nothing about football or history
@HahahahaEngland imagine being the best manager in England history and be ridiculed by some drunk Brexit voter 😂
@HahahahaEngland you are drunk and you don't know what support a team means. The England is way overrated and you should very happy to reach the final. Now go back to being drunk and stupid I'm done with you little bro
Please keep him for as long as possible, this is comedy gold.
8 years is long enough to employ a manager who has not won silverware.
Dour performances aside, it is time the FA made a change.
Southgate needs to develop his managerial skills in club football...............somewhere!
The next England manager needs to send out a team that will have more than 2 or 3 shots on target in any one game against top sides, like Spain, France, Germany, Argentina etc.
He has had 8 years to study tactics.
Lets not mess about; Southgate has had his chance, its time for a change
Agree. Even the SG lovers could say well only 1 team can win so it’s fair to say 1 tournament isn’t enough. But we’re at numerous attempts now and it’s getting worse regardless of a finals.
who would you suggest?
Klop
Few things noticed :
1. Harry Kane's legs are gone.
2. Declan & Mainoo rarely pass the ball forward. Adam Wharton would.
3. The team has no pace at the wings. Gordon & Bowen could've played more.
4. Jude's is either a no 10 or 8. Not on the left.
Mainoos role needs to be the one that keeps ball circulating. I agree re Wharton, he needs to go CDM with Mainoo and Roce either side
Bellinghams role is confusing...he was like a defensive no 10...I had no idea what he was supposed to do on that football pitch
Kane has never had legs. Southgate just stuck with Kane when he was performing badly because they are buddies.
Mainoo always looks for the forward ball, he's definitely more progressive than Wharton. Rice made a lot of backwards/sideways passes, but I think this was more to do with the midfield being congested, as he plays for one of the most progressive teams in the Premier league, and passes for forward there.
Why was the midfield congested? Because Kane can't run in behind defences and stretch defences, it invites thr opposition defence to push up and thus the their midfield to push, leaving little space between the lines.
Gordon is very fast, not sure Bowen is any or much faster than Saka. Gordon definitely should have started or played more, and the smart decision would be to simply play either/or Foden and Bellingham, we just kept trying to force aas many "names" into a team as possible, ignoring form and balance.
Southgate lacked the balls to drop Foden and Bellingham.
And he should have done that since
Another huge issue specifically from last night and the tournament in general - is the insistence on Pickford to hoof it to a Spanish player 30 times. He’s done it all tournament and it obviously comes from Southgate. It’s bizarre. I don’t mind if it’s actually going to an English player and we have a chance to make something of it but it’s just bizarre to give them t from the off, over and over
5. Cole Palmer should have been starting games NOT Left on the bench.......
HARRY KANE"englands greatest ever player" 0 trophies😹😹😹
That’s funny mate because England haven’t won anything since 66 and all the legendary players like Beckham Rooney etc have won nothing with England as well as Kane.
@FastCheetah-oq6kj I think he's referring to the fact Kane as 0 trophies, overall for his career.
@@mikerotchburns2568kanes won nothing with anyone. The man's a jinx. Obviously
@@Paul-fi8hy Bit like Shearer then ....
@@RenegadeSound Really,Shearer won the EPL with Blackburn ! 🙄🙄
Where’s Paul pogba in all of this .
Riding high.
Guéhi was our best player but he would have been on the bench if Maguire went. We should of benched Foden, Jude, Kane and Walker and played, Tony, Watkins, Palmer and Gordon or Trent
we started games with Trent... how did that go?
Why wasn’t our 1982 WC squad full of Liverpool, Forest & Villa players who had won the previous six European Cups?? Coz Ron had his favourites who he felt had to play and we Flopped.
Absolutely NOTHING has changed.
What would your starting XI have been?
@@darkoanton5 When? Now or in 1982?
Im not sitting through another tournament with him in charge
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lol whatever you say, cry baby
Why was Pickford hoofing the ball everyone, missing half of the England side. You have to build from the back by using your midfielders. England did none of this, Spain did and succeeded. Why is no one asking this question? Was this the instruction from the manager?
Someone like Eddie how or villa manager
I wondered the exact same thing ...he gave the ball away time and time again and then made a couple of saves which were a direct result of him giving ball away 😂 - cue the commentators / pundits lauding his great saves
Need to move on from Pickford as well...he can't be the best England has to offer??
That is Pickford's style of play at Everton and Southgate is admirer of that.
This is precisely the right question to ask….anyoje who knows ball can see England simply either lack the confidence or class in midfield to control the ball in tight spaces and control THE GAME.
If you look at Spain they play short passes under incredible pressure right at the edge of their box but they keep doing it because they have an identity england would hoof it. Unbelievable because England should have technical players second to none with the likes of Foden… but I don’t think Bellingham or Rice really have that ability to really hold possession in a tight midfield
they are just not good enought to play like that
Spanish teams (national and la liga teams) have won their last 27 finals, as simple as this
I have never known an England side to be so lethargic in all there games from the group stages to the final
You evidently haven't seen England play much in the past then have you?
half the players in the tournament play in England and their not knackered
Neither were the England squad. Harry Kane wasnt tired or Injured. He spent the last season playing against average teams and he is just not up to playing at this level anymore, and he definitely doesnt fit the squad.
They’re not knackered*
Ralf Rangnick would be a brilliant choice
😂😂😂😂
@@truthseeker3503 his football knowledge is unmatched, doing a great job at Austria. Big players and expectation I doubt it rho
He has done nothing just hyped off the man u n euro attention.
The FA would never offer him the job, and he wouldn't leave Austria to go back to England and deal with that media and insufferable fan base.
lmaooooooooooooo
66 was a one off
There's a reason we haven't won anything significant since then, collectively we've never been good enough and now it's been almost 60 years
If we ever do win anything again it will be a 1 off also.
This has been my problem for years, ive never known England to have a particular style of play, we've always just passed it back to the keeper and oofed it up, hoping we can go on and score. I never got it because we've always had talented players. Do i think this is the best crop of players we've had? No, but they're certainly talented. It's so jarring seeing players like Foden and Bellingham who've had brilliant seasons for their clubs play like headless chickens half the time for England. Why is our manager playing Kane knowing he isn't fit when we have other strikers who've made a better impact in the little time they've played? I think we need a manager who has a playing style that suits the players we have and someone who will be ruthless in his selection of players.
4 3 2 1 system never works. NEVER.
Alex Crook loves to critique Kane, but what about Bellingham who other than a routine goal and an excellent goal, was borderline useless. Or Rice who was entirely anonymous. Murphy is equally to blame. Stop scapegoating a single player and look at the team as a whole, the setup, the management
Totally agree. And add Foden to that list
Our tactics seemed to involve Pickford continually launching the ball 70 yards, to a Harry Kane who couldn't run, then waiting for the Spanish to pass their way back to our goal.
What decade are we in where our national side are using Wimbledon/Stoke hoof-it and run tactics?
"Sixty years of hurt" is how the song starts at the next World cup.
I was hoping Rodri wasn't too badly injured. That block on Kanes shot, Rodris leg bent the wrong way 😮 He's a fantastic player for Spain and City.
"the only reason Argentina won the 2022 world cup was because of Messi" - eh?? Martinez helped with his penalty saving exploits. Alvarez and di Maria gave plenty going forwards. They also had a midfield pivot in Enzo and Macallister that they didn't have in previous tournaments.
To simplify it as "Messi won Argentina the world cup" is incredibly disingenuous. I'm not even sure if Messi was Argentina's best player in that tournament despite what the media will tell you.
The main reason was the help from fifa during the whole tournament (non-existant penalties awarded, yellow and red cards forgiven, a special treatment for them), the second reason was everything else. Without that help from fifa it wouldn't have been enough and they would have been sent back home as they always did prior to that.
@@tevildo45 I watched almost all matches, all from them and you have to either be naive or a fool if you believe they won the world cup on their own. Truth is that world cup win was a shady one as both of the previous times they won before. At least in 1986 there was one a goal with the hand and the rest wasn't that shady, but 2022 was full of corruption and bs to help a loser win that trophy.
The only time we showed the type of fluidity the Spanish have in abundance (I think) was the Palmer/Watkins goal against Holland. We just weren't good enough
Gareth Southgate has an amazing squad of players he has no clue how to manage regarding tactics he hasnt got a clue last night was appalling we could have easily won that game but once again he waited and waited to change things and even then he hasnt got a clue why hes changing things , I was screaming at the telly as you could see the pressure from Spain building and he let the players get deeper and deeper into their own half until the goal that killed us came he should have broken up the game made substitutions and took the initiative from Spain extra time we would have won it but know he did nothing as usual , please just tell him to leave asap we might as well got beat in the group stages as build to that load of rubbish in the final
If Gareth is smart, he’ll walk. It’s not gonna get any better for him with England so just leave while your reputation is still intact.
The reason England can't get over the line is when they won the WC in 66 the ball actually didn't cross the line😂
It would of still been 3-2 if it didn’t cross the line
@@ianseymour7339 In hindsight that's true but it was the phantom goal that put the game at 3-2 and that is called the game winner,the 4th goal was the icing on the cake.
Southgate’s time is up. New manager needs to get the team playing expansive cohesive football. I don’t understand why Southgate was tinkering with players and formations during the tournament. Surely it should have been sorted out in the friendlies before the tournament started.
He picked a player who was a passenger for7games. Kane.
England nearly always make a change when there hand is forced, reactive not progressive
We have the players so else something has to change
It's simple, put. Klopp in charge, England would of won, put Pep in charge, England would of won..
Southgate is the reason why England played poor and massively underperformed.
Someone like Jose Mourinho would have won that final for England last night.
Jose would of played the exact same way
thats just amazing, literally anyone competent enough, and England would now have 2 golds from the Euros, making them one of the most successfull nations in history, im glad we are not watching that unfold.
Club football has evolved massively in the last 10 years, and given that National managers/coaches get so little time with the squad, it's foolish to try to mould them into a new/different type of footballing entity: play the players in their natural positions, playing the type of football they play week in, week out.
Yh it’s common sense! Play the style your home league plays, for us, high press, fast, intense football! England plays nothing like the premier league
Kloop and Pep wouldn’t be allowed back in their respective countries
Danny is righy, Southgate should be applauded for bringing the national team together from what he inherited, however it is time we move on from gareth and get a more attacking manager to get the best out of our strengths...
At kick off when we passed back to Pickford and he immediately booted at back to the Spanish... That MUST have been tactical and an instruction from the coaching staff in addition to us sitting back deep after the equaliser! Absolutely no way we would have played that way under a manager like Klopp.
'The only reason France won the world cup in 2018 was Mbappe' - how much is talkSPORT paying Simon Jordan to spout absolute drivel?
The whole French team was the reason, not just Mbappe. In 2022 the main reason was fifa itself who helped his protegé to win it, otherwise France would have won back to back world cups.
@@tevildo45 They arranged to award penalties for them at the most minimum contact and not to be checked by var so that they won't rectify them, had they done that those "penalties" would have been disallowed. Almost all penalties for argentina were to open matches so that they could control the game, except in the match with Netherlands. France were awarded legit penalties, unlike argentina's, and take into account it was france, a powerful federation that won fair and square world titles in both ocassions so they have enough weight to prevent not being given both legit penalties.
Like it or not, argentina was practically handed the title by fifa only because infantino is a fan and a friend of messi, though i would say they are much more than that, and also because the ruler (owner) of qatar is another fan. Those two people joined forces and made a plan through the refering to make messi win the world cup since he would've never achieved that on their own (even with a more competitive team like the current one) as shown every single time he wasn't helped. He was this close to lose to France so in the end they barely managed to fullfil their plan, thus without those "penalties" it wouldn't have been enough to reach the final let alone win the world cup.
The only thing that sends you to sleep quicker than Southgate’s football is listening to Alex Crook or Rory Jennings
Sort it out Talksport!!!
Give them a couple of minutes here and there as a bit of a filler
On far too much
Can anybody tell me what Jude Bellingham actually does? I haven’t seen him play any club football really only for England.
Lord Elite Jordanite & Danny = Top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts
Once they got that unwarranted penalty in the semis, I was glad to see Spain force the ball into the back of the net.
We really need a modern-thinking manager who recognises all the talent at his disposal and creates a system to unleash that potential.
NOT Pickford hoofing it up to Kane who doesn’t make any effort to hold or contest the ball, and then giving it straight back to the opponents.
German’s success in 2014 was because of a perfect team - not singular players sticking out. Yes - you can install a system. Nagelsmann does it now again for Germany and the Spanish have a distinct mentality that seems to be present through the whole La Liga.
Why would the FA want to keep a Manager on who hasn't delivered after 8 years? A better Manager would get the best out of these top players - Kane is no longer in that category, Gareth still thinks he is. He didn't have a Captain's tournament.
Did he say Kane and walker has earned there place to start for good performances over the years that the problem it’s about who is inform and who fit not about what’s gone on in past
Saying that individual players and pragmatism is what won teams tournaments is so stupid its unreal. Its taking us down the same hole. Ive got an article from 2006 about "why cant england pass the ball".. all the other teams played good football aside from greece. You HAVE to start to understand why england dont win, we were not able to get enough players forward, we were exceptionally bad on the ball most of the tournament, there wasnt enough movement and effort to get into space, kyle walker stood ready to take a throw in for about 20 minutes because nobody is in space. Pickford with players either side of him kicking it long time and time again, impatience when we do turn possession over just like when we lost to portugal in 2006. Weve learned nothing from pep, klopp, arteta, because when its "just" us doing it on our own we go back to 90s football. Big lumbering centre forward, he even would have played maguire if he was fit.. be honest. These arent footballers, spain had footballers all over the pitch. In summary, dont work out how to beat spain, how to stop spain, BE SPAIN
England have Southgate, they are less than their individual parts. The most embarrassing and profound moment = Southgate preparing for extra time, while Spain were preparing to win it.
People should remember Spain were a great team and England did well to hang in the game and could have equalised in the closing moments. Also so called experienced former England managers never managed a Semi or Final in Fifty years since Ramsey . Southgate’s record is only second to Ramsey.
It’s quite easy, we would’ve done a lot better with Maguire, Henderson, Rashford and Kalvin Phillips in the team ! Anyway, I must go it’s time for my medication
Danny stating the obvious 😂
I'm teaching my fish to swim later ....
TW greeting from Norway, Scotland beat this Spanish Team at 2:0 in Scotland yes Spain beat the same score at 2:0 in Spain.
Southgate was the right man too get us out of the post hodgeson doldrums we were in, he instilled a sesne of togetherness that england teams have struggled with, however the team we have is the product of deliberate and dedicated player development at the FA via the EPP programe and St Georges park. However he needed to movemon once the broad culture had been set and players bedded in, to win tournaments we need a manager with elite tactical acumen. Unfortunatley southgate is not that guy like the commentators said, another more sucessful coach could have worked wonders with this crop. The only consolation is that this generation of players has come about thanks to a deliberate design, rather than chance like the so called golden generation. So i am confident that either this crop or the next, so long as they have a decent manager can do something
When Southgate took over he picked form players over names but reverted back to the England way this tournament. If Walker, Bellingham, Foden (huge fan btw) and Kane were replaced with TAA, Palmer, Gordon and Watkins, we’d have had a decent chance last night.
Bellingham? You watching him? He was excellent. He is in a poor set up. Foden and he had to move around to get on the ball. In a Pep team, they do not move. They are patient and trusting. The set up is a mess. They do not need two sitting midfielders. Rice and Mainoo did not work. Rice is not needed to sit so deep. He needs to be a better ball player higher up. Kane was miles off; why?
this is the same manager that had harry kane taking corner kicks... just let that sink in
The FA is the problem
We don't have midfielders like Rodri. You can't win tournaments with 20 attacking midfielders in the squad. Where were the high quality ball playing defensive midfielders that can control games? Rice was not that.
You don't pick fit left back, don't start your only left winger, put a fullback in at midfield, place two number tens together and continue to start an out of form striker, who only wants to come come deep into the same space inhabited by by Bellingham and Phoden. If I didn't know any better, this would suggest a subtle attempt at sabotage.
Takes a special kind of Manager to fail with the pool of players available. At least he was smart enough to turn the criticism into victimisation. He's been bog average and all the best performing players never got a start in 7 games (defenders excluded).
Harry selfish kane was lazy & unfit imo
Southgate moulded his players into a version of him, no flair, too nervous, too defensive, too negative, too boring. He kept his players on a leash and didn't allow them to 'play'. He hamstrung thst team. This just highlights just how stubborn and made it all about him.
People who think that Southgate should stay because he has made a couple of finals with easy runs are the reason England are trophyless since 1966. Loser mentality.
Outrageous that Danny Murphy wasn't alongside Guy Mobray for the final on BBC1 instead of Shearer. Brilliant analyser. I want Eddie Howe. Get's best of most of his players like Joelinton and Gordon.
I disagree with Simon saying that the only reason Argentina won the last world cup is cos of Messi,did he forget about Emi Martinez & the massive performances & saves he put in to all their games in the tournament & has done exactly the same in their last Copa America wins. Football is a team/squad game & everyone played their part,but the 2 players that made a big difference between winning or not were Martinez & Messi who has praised Martinez on a number of occasions too state that fact.
I think that Einstein said that if you have a problem and trying to solve it the same way again and again, and expect a different result, the you are a fool.
Benjamin White says hello. What a tournament by Walker. Southgate and Holland had the team purring... 😬😬😏😏
Until we get some creative players they are never going to gel as a team. We have a bunch of players who want to score goals and no one to give them any service.
Absolutely never give Southgate another contract. Clueless strategizing and in game tactical adjustments. Don’t squander another generation.
Bro any other country would drop Gareth as the manager. Unless you’re a small nation and you’re happy enough not to win
how can the fa keep southgate seeing him destroy these top players
Jim describing Danny Murphy as a "Liverpool legend".
smh
England have no agreed upon philosophy. You could see that when things aren't going to plan Bellingham does what he wants and vacates his position. Foden throwing his arms up and moaning in the first game that his team mates are lumping the ball forward. England don't wanna play football. They want a team of roll your sleeve up players.
there is no room for SENTIMENT IN MODERN PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL
The FA would evidently disagree .
FA are clueless ...Gareth took the job on reluctantly and has been a superb ambassador ...but coaching a winning side is too much ...first mistake is centre forward as captain and then goes downhill from there . I think the personal abuse would have affected a decent bloke and he will see his contract out ...we need somebody that would of not played Harry Kane ...a winner
Gareth done well the first two tournaments. The last two NO. The reason behind that is that the squad has become way stronger. The style of play hasn't adapted.
Can we finally call out and upgrade on Rice, he is no where near a top quality midfielder. We cannot control a game with the likes of a stiff club footed player like him in there. He is not cute enough on the ball, too slow to see a pass, and he's very limited in what he's great at. To be World beaters you need better than him. Cannot stand him as a player. We can talk about the obvious players like your Fodens and Bellignham, but you improve by improving the floor level talent of the team. Pickford isn't a modern keeper, who doesn't play in a modern style, and Rice just isn't good enough at top level.
Everytime I listen to talksport, I'm usually keen on Simon Jordan's take about the matter because I find him clear and consistent in his thoughts and opinions, Alex and other pundits that come on here usually have an ever changing tone based on the circumstance or outcome of a game. I heard Alex suggest that walker had a "really poor tournament", with due respect sir but that comment is absolute nonsense. He may not have been a standout player of that squad but by no means was he "poor", ever present in that backline and perhaps one of the main reasons why the team even managed to reach a final from a defensive perspective. It's like the caller hinted, these guys are a group of really good players that are coming in with their reputations off their incredible entertaining clubs, provided with some of the most intricate thinking minds of the sport and is expected to replicate that in their national teams.
They often have no consistent/reliable offensive structure and hence, each one just about plays with their hearts and not their mind during the heat of the moment.
Love the show, very insightful from Mr Jordan as usual and all the best in your next tournament 🙏.
We cannot play the pressing game after a long season. To play that way you need to be good in possession otherwise it's way too tiring. Southgate got the tactics spot on. Kept the pace slow and tried to hold ball with technically limited players trying to win games with moments of genius. It got us to the final. Let's give him credit. England were well prepared for the penalties.
In the clique bait picture, Garath is saying, "We're fooked"? The other guy saying, "I know, when we leave, walk in backwards"!
Southgate loses every time he faces a serious team. He's completely 2nd rate in how he sees the game, but has been extremely lucky to get easy draws in the tournaments he was in.
The problem is that the manager must incorporate into a disparate team all sorts of different playing styles which players have been taught by different club managers. That takes time and the manager has not got that time to do it. So there must be some sympathy for Southgate. But against that, all international managers face the same problem and of course some are very successful. Ergo it follows that Southgate must be shipped out and someone with more ingame and out of game tactical management skills brought in. If that means dropping established names and putting in players who do meld better, we need to do it and fast.
At the end of the day it's down to the manager and the team he has picked and his formation we need to bring players in like Harvey Elliott and Gordon etc who play with high energy
If England had lost in a more swashbuckling style and at least dominated some of the games they had played in, I would agree that he should continue. I agree, they have players who didn't show their full potential, and some players showed frustration in some of the games.
Come now. What's wrong with winning two silver medals? 🥈🥈😄
No no no. Please get rid, and Man U keep clear of him.
One of the commentators said the Spanish manager is brave. That's something Southgate isn't.
Just change the new manager.
Ps All the English players are very good world class. Leave them alone.
Danny who.
The Spanish FA have a superb museum, why don’t you get yourself across their & see what proper teams win 🫏🫏🫏
Hairy Kane should NOT have been an automatic starter!. Toney and Watkins had more to offer but were left sat on the bench
Judging by the intense reactions all over the internet to last night's match I am glad that I didn't watch a bunch of blokes cautiously kicking a ball around for ninety minutes
How often does he have to fail before the FA decide to make a change.
Honestly they won't sack him , you know it and i know it .
Southgate…Should he stay or should he go now?
If Southgate managed spain he would have had them playing in exactly the same way he had england playing.
Ole gunner Southgate
Ole was better than Southgate. Ole played some decent counter attacking football at times
I keep hearing we have the best players at clubs, but what people are forgetting this play with good players at club level. Personally think the players are hiding under the narrative of that the manager is negative, all the previous managers can’t be bad, England has never played open, offensive football, so let us go get the manager that will play open expansive football and let see the excuse from the players.
Murphy making that England to Man United comparison just killed his credibility. Yes they’ve both underperformed, but England has a top quality side being mismanaged, whereas United has I poor squad from a decade of no football structure and Glazer mismanagement. The problem is the FA kept Southgate in a job after past failures. It’s clear Southgate is a mid table Championship manager at best.