It's hilarious how all 3 Cait's predictions actually came true! (ALL CAIT SITH PREDICTIONS EXPLAINED
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00:00 All Cait Sith predictions explained by scenes Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Remake 2024
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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is an upcoming action role-playing game developed and published by Square Enix, scheduled to release for PlayStation 5 on February 29, 2024. It is a sequel to Final Fantasy VII Remake, and the second in a planned trilogy of games remaking the 1997 PlayStation game Final Fantasy VII.
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@@-._____-Why?
In between the time where Cait says " Can you not just raise it a wee bit higher" and Barret Saying "Screw You Cat". Didcha catch that?
Cait's VA made that character so much fun.
nailed it on the accent, I love it
Idk If it was me or what but the audio mix on him with default settings he was so quiet compared to the others. Though your right on the money the va did amazing with caits character!!
yeah... trying to fake an irish accent but being unable to pronounce Cait Sith correctly...
@@theEisbergmann not Irish. Scottish. Gaelic(?)
@@ryanhorton9594 Well Gaelic is irish and scottish... but yes - scottish. Irish would be Sidhe instead of Sith, but the pronunciation stays the same.
Here's what I learned from Batman:
"Every riddle has a double meaning."
😅
Thanks to remember the great teachings of Batman.
I like how no one seems to see that cloud doesn't say his classic speech describing his feelings in this part because in the rebirth reality he cries, but we can see brief flashes that do show cloud going on about his speech
You're right, and I'm positive we'll get to see the actual scene with the speech during the third part, as well as him putting her in the water
@@ssoo8338 I don't wanna see either one of those scenes in 4K 😭😭😭
fuck ur right
Yeah, when he gets all right thanks to Tifa and the lifestream he will remember how Zack and Aeris died in front of him and his blocked trauma will start healing. They are doing great with Cloud's arch, in the original felt a bit rushed but shocked too, this time it's so well done about mental health, getting help and this, he is going to have a great arch to feel better because of their deaths.
@@kaitlynhernandez6340part 3 will be a PS6 exclusive watch.
I have come to learn that if there’s a fortune teller in a story and they seem silly they are usually batting 1.000
Yeah like that looney professor trelawney in Harry Potter. She only ever made 2 predictions in her entire career, but she hit 2 homeruns in her 2 innings at bat 😂
@@mrtnite9780 she did 2 prophecies where she went into a trance that came true but she made a lot of small predictions that came true too. She predicted dumbledore and Voldemorts death. But she thought she was predicting Harry’s death
@@tolkienblack It's like Yoda said in the Empire Strikes Back: "Difficult to see. Always emotions, the future." The future is easy to predict in broad strokes, it's just ALSO easy to get the specific details wrong at the same time leading to "incorrect" predictions that are actually true, the prophet is just not getting their interpretation right. "A prophecy that, misinterpreted, may be." -Yoda, Episode 2 or 3 (I forget which)
@@SubduedRadical "Always in motion, the future" is what Yoda actually said.
A Link to the Past disliked that
4:04 "Cloud, what is it you cherish the most? Give me the pleasure of taking it away". - Sephiroth, Advent Children
"Aerith, Aerith, Tifa, Marlene, Danzel, Zack" - Cloud Strife, Advent Children.
"You know, I pity you. You just don't get it at all. There's not a thing I don't cherish." Favorite line not just of that movie, but of ALL time.
@@MrHoll87 Followed by the the most epic version of Omnislash in the history of Final Fantasy.
That quote always went hard AF
The original will always be a masterpiece!
The first prediction has nothing to do with Aerith (not to mention that, if it did, it would contradict the last prediction). The first prediction is about Cait Sith himself. They "throw caution to the wind" by trusting him (knowing he is ShinRa), he betrays them, but because they trusted in him in the end he comes through and pleasantly surprises them by showing up in a twist (he is "good" after all) and saving them from the Temple of the Ancients.
Sort of related to Cait Sith, I've been wondering who the mysterious leader of the Wutai is, some person who never shows his face, even Yuffie has never seen him. I don't know if this a new subplot to this remake series of if it's part of the OG game because I never played the OG, but I kinda wouldn't be surprised if the leader of Wutai is that guy in Shinra who's controlling Cait Sith, the one guy who had a problem with dropping the Sector 7 plate.
That or maybe it's Sephiroth, pitting Wutai and Shinra against each other on purpose to distract them while he pursues his own goals.
@@MrHoll87 The guy you are thinking of is Reeve. He is not Viceroy Sarruf (the mysterious leader of Wutai, as you called it). Sarruf is Rufus. It's made even more obvious in Japanese, where his name is literally an anagram. This subplot is not in the OG (the Wutai war never returns in the OG at all), but it is a call-back to a subplot in Before Crisis (Rufus was giving off information to the AVALANCHE branch that was working with the Wutai rebellion in order to undermine his father - This was already alluded to in Intermission as well, in the Remake series. Ultimately ShinRa found out there was a traitor amongst them and blamed the Turks. They were hunt down by ShinRa while, at the same time, they were trying to find Zack and Cloud (who were also being hunted down at this time) to try and save them (as seen in Crisis Core but, more prominiently, in Last Order). They failed to get to them on time (which is touched upon by Reno in DFFOO when he reunites with Zack) and eventually disbanded in order to try and not get killed by ShinRa, too. Only Tseng, Reno and Rude decide to stay and they are sentenced to death. This is when Rufus decides to intervene and comes clean to his father about the truth, effectively saving the Turks from certain death. This is why Tseng, Reno and Rude are so loyal to Rufus (and not to ShinRa as a company per se, exactly), as that is the only demand Rufus made of them. So yeah, that's who Viceroy Sarruf is. And I can't wait to see how that entire mess develops in Part 3, since things never went things far at all in the original Compilation.
Well said, I thought that was pretty obvious. I'm surprised to see people think he was talking about Aerith, since ....you know, she died. and if he did create an alternative timeline, it is one where the world ends since she needs the powers of being in the lifestream to defeat Sephiroth, which is why she always had to die. Either way, it's not a pleasant surprise by any measure.
@@jdzspace33 It is pretty obvious. However, I disagree with you. Aerith does not need to die, and Rebirth made that extremely clear. The only reason for her death to be "necessary" was that it was the only way for her to "control" the Lifestream, something that Rebirth has just retconned. She can clearly control the Lifestream while being alive. So yeah, I do think she is alive in a world Cloud created by deflecting Sephiroth's sword and I'll be very surprised if they are not reunited at the end (though given Rebirth affinity system, I also believe it will probably be up to the player how all that goes). Regardless, this trilogy will only matter if it actually makes a difference, since, if not, humanity will still be dead in 500 years. /shrugs
@martas.9804 but every world where Aerith is alive, the planet is dying. They showed that in every one where she survived.
She could see what all the other Aerith's saw. That's why she knew the end was coming, but she had to die so Aerith prime could do her job.
That's why she couldn't move freely between them and even take cloud with her until after she died. She always has to do in order to save the planet. That core to the story
The first playthrough I didn’t notice but my second I was like hold up! All that ACTUALLY happens!!!
No it didn’t
FF7 multiverse and it seemed like aerith could always look through the veil, next games going to be wild
@@z-rossi3672 no she can’t
@@NerdGeekTalk so how did Zack join the battle and how did she find cloud to help him fight seph?
factsss bro same here 🙋♂️💯
Something I don't see talked about enough is how when cloud calls out to Aerith, two black whispers immediately part the wall of whispers, as though they're responding to his wish
Sephiroth wants Cloud to think he has a chance, just to crush his hopes even harder, so his whispers let him through.
assume sephiroth is always fucking with cloud. still spiteful he was killed by the last person he even thought of.
I assume cuz since supposedly sephiroth gave cloud “his blessing” he gave some of the power to cloud 🤷
@@LtSMASH324 But then the portal that gets opened up is white, like Aeriths portal in Remake when she remakes Sephiroths portal. So who makes the portal in the forgotten capitol 👀
The rainbows in the background give a clue as to what reality Cloud is in. Rainbows = Aerith's "alive". No rainbows = Aerith's dead. When Aerith in lying in a pool of her own blood, no rainbows. When Aerith caresses Cloud's cheek and tells him it's okay, no blood, but rainbows. This could be hugely helpful to telling realities apart in the future.
Where r the rainbows
Nvm
Opposite actually world ends when she lives
@@tvsoup4405 Lmao No. That's not what I was saying.
kinda- were experiencing it fractured from clouds perspective so anything that confuses us is most likely a sephiroth manipulation- to do to the audience what sephy does to cloud- misdirects.
"That which you most cherish."
Advent Children: "You just don't get it. There isn't a single thing I don't cherish!"
2:17 Is no one gonna talk about how Cid is humming the original Final Fantasy theme song
I noticed it first time. Found that a nice touch! ❤
Most haven't even played it to recognize it. 😅
I only recognized it cuz of XII
I find it interesting that as new Rebirth players you wouldn't know what those first two meant but the 3rd one especially as an OG FF7 players would immediately understand it, even Cloud reacted to it as if he knows.
For the third one I think even a lot of gamers would know what it means without playing the original FF7. Aerith's death is so iconic in video games that people that never played FF knew about it.
Wow I never would have figured out those cryptic predictions with out this. At least the first two anyway
The one I struggled with was the first one. The other two were pretty self explanatory
Guess I'm just dumb
"Every riddle has a double meaning."
-Batman
Hint at the true ending. Need to maximize the affinity with all characters @@Tahkaullus01
You are right. The decision to save her , did indeed create another world. It's also told in the game that every choice creates a new world. So maybe she can come back from that world like Zack? And that's why Cloud asks her in the end if she will be able to go back and she says it's like a second home.
Seems like you got this one Bang on
One thing we know. We're still going to see her in part 3. I also have a feeling she's going to help Cloud find his real self. The remake obviously points out that Cloud and Aerith have strong feelings for each other.
the second home quote is a mistranslation, it actually states "this is the land of the cetra". They are multiple different mistranslations in rebirth. So we prob have wait a couple of weeks until the whole game is truly translated accurately
so Aerith is just gunna be Gamora 2.0. remember when the themes of life and death were taken seriously in this franchise??
I had a feeling she just meant going back to the forgotten capital as a 2nd home, as she is going back to pray to the planet to stop meteor (which strangely hasn't even been cast yet) @@TheNFromO
Cloud isn’t the most reliable source of information. I wonder if he just hallucinated saving Aerith, kind of like several other pieces of his past.
I saw it as a representation of what Sephiroth is trying to achieve. Fate is his to manipulate. Even if you save Aerith, he can just 'fix' it by changing fate back to her death simply by making that world a reality.
He wants to create a single world in the multiverse, but he wants the power to pick and choose which plotlines from each world exist, thus putting him in the best possible position.
Thats what I took when I first played it
Yeah because the weird static flash happens and then she's dead. Typically that flash only happen in regards to Cloud's memories. So yeah I dont wanna say for certain what happened because Cloud is unreliable again in a different way. It's great.
He is definitely not hallucinating Aerith, as Nanaki notices her touch in the end.
Pretty sure it's a timeline split. We're shown Zack several times in the story when Cloud isn't around (the parallel timeline that splits into 3 - he goes to Shinra Tower and dies, he goes to save Biggs and dies, he goes to the Church and finds Sephiroth). Considering NONE OF THAT is from Cloud's perspective, and Cloud isn't even around for most of it, we can assume that's all true events (not hallucinations), just happening in a separate timeline. Then that Zack (the one that goes to the Church) helps Cloud fight in the battle with Sephiroth. This means THAT must also be a true event, not a hallucination.
The stuff we see from Zack's perspective we can know is real since that Zack exists independent of Cloud's mind (he's not just a figment of Cloud's imagination). We also know he's not being manipulated/mind controlled/made to see hallucinations by Jenova or Sephiroth since unlike Cloud, Zack was never overwhelmed or consumed by Jenova cells.
"a last-minute twist may pleasantly surprise you" might also refer to *SPOILER*
Zack's/Aerith's arrival in the final battle
Heck yeah that's awesome 👌
It is not that surprised when they heavily use multiverse throughout the game.
But then you still lose what you cherished most 😭
I mean I'd still say the fortune was incorrect for me ; it wasn't a pleasant surprise, more like audible groaning 🤣
@@fabesey2016 Well, it seemed pleasant to Cloud. 🤷♀
It still messes me up how OGFF7 Cait tries to read Aeriths future when she is dead and there is no letter coming out because she is dead and has no future..
It looked so silly the first time.. and when I thought about it...
Damn that’s some clever foreshadowing
I cracked up about the black fortune because it felt like a fortune cookie that doesn't give real fortunes. But it really was a fortune!
Sephiroth delivering his lines with all the passion of an elcor: "I feel these emotions so keenly. You can tell because I said so."
Genuine amusement: I hadn't thought of it like that.
I put some time thinking about these predictions and realized something interesting that might come up in Part 3: Cait's predictions might actually be in chronological order.
The 1st [Cloud getting help from the party to create an alternate world where he saves aerith] and 2nd [Cloud being in possession of a powered up Black Materia) predictions make sense as they happen one right after the other, which means that the third prediction: "Seek and you are sure to find. But alas, you shall forever lose what you cherish most" would not have happened yet.
If this turns out to be true, it sets up an interesting question for the next game as for what Cloud will lose.
Just a fun thought experiment. Thanks for the vid!
Spoiler alert:
He loses his identity
@@tolkienblacknailed it.
No guys, advent children he cherrishes everything. He seeks a way to save aerith, finds it, but the world ends and he loses everything.
@@tvsoup4405He does not lose everything tho
@@tolkienblackAt the point of the prediction he wont lose his identity.
1st Riddle:
"Things are looking up, so throw caution to the wind. Put your trust in others, and the last-minute twist may pleasantly suprise you."
Answer:
-Trust your friends and the "right whispers".
2nd Riddle:
"Watch your belongings. Lucky color: black."
Answer:
-Black Materia
3rd Riddle:
"Seek and you are sure to find. But alas, you shall forever lose what you cherished most."
Answer:
-A very special friend: Aerith.
Aerith is all our special friend :(
You had it very close, but the third is actually his memories. He doesn’t cherish Aerith most. He’s canonically by lore conflicted between tifa and Aerith. It’s solely due to the time dilation, that cloud loves Aerith in place of zack. Opposed to his original love, tifa.
Search and you shall find. What do we search for? Our destiny, nostalgia. The feeling of being alive.
What do we fear most to lose, our memories. What makes us who we are.
Cloud’s canonical battle, is with himself. He fears losing himself most.
Dude, you're a delusional Tifa fan.
@johnkyl123 😂😂 just stop man.
@@emperorpalpatine4953 … Stop what exactly?
It the original, Cait says on the 3rd Fortune that he has never gotten that fortune before. Implying the moogle gives randomized, preprgrammed fortunes. It was his excuse to see what happens, but in turn he was spying on them.
Im not prepared to lose her again. :(
This is why I don't play the remakes, I tried my best to save her in every playthrough in the original game coz my young heart can't accept what happend
She has to die. You get that right?
She is like sephirot now.. a superior entity, with multiverse access just like sephirot, the last part of this game will be crazy
@@billybatts8283 I know but I like her then and still like her now 😢
this saga isn't about losing her it already happened. It's about something more we will find out in part 3
Imagine Cloud manages to do something *good* with it. Meteor vs Holy + Meteor anybody?
New Final Fantasy spell: Judgement.
Cloud saved an alternate aerith for now.
So long aerith, Shall we meet once more the worlds colide again.
Cloud didn't save her. In any reality.
@@darbs1832Except he did
@@ErenDenizMert You're weeks late bud. We've already got confirmation that he didn't save her (as if it wasn't obvious enough).
@@darbs1832 Yeah in HIS timeline.
@@Grimmaculate if you wanna call his mind a 'timeline'...then sure - go ahead.
Look...even people who ship tifa and cloud or zack and aerith can't deny that cloud loved aerith too...and that they had some series chemistry
Yeah, I'm team Tifa - but that's considering the entirety of the compilation. They have an almost "meant to be" or "it's obvious" kind of chemistry. But Cloud organically seems to have feelings for Aerith, and that can't be denied (and vice versa). I've never liked this Cloti vs Clerith thing that goes on. I'm almost certain Nomura mentioned in a really old interview that FF7 is a love story, and that Cloud does have feelings for both. I'm not finished with Rebirth but boy oh boy does it made things SOOOOOO much more complicated imo. I'm literally teeter tottering between the two, and seriously checking my biases. The new Zack stuff in the game isn't helping, lol.
I have yet to see a scene except the contrived ones in the end that come out of nowhere, in all of the two games where they have 'chemistry'. Those end-scenes feel like I'm watching Aerith fantasise, and it made me nauseous. Well, at least Cloud's Japanese VA really outdid himself there, so that was still enjoyable.
Yes, he likes her, no doubt, and he wants to protect her ... but that's it.
Could he have developed feelings for her? I could see it, yeah. If Tifa weren't there. But as some Cleriths have told me, Aerith is his true soulmate, Tifa just for the physical stuff or something. (Oh, the best one was 'Cloud and Tifa's kiss was like Seymour and Yuna in FFX' ... like wtaf.)
Also, whatever chemistry they might have ... remember when Cloud said Gongaga looked familiar to him when he was never there? Yeah, there is that mindfuckery with Zack going on. As long as that isn't cleared up HOW bad his memories and emotions are entangled with Zack, I don't want to hear anything about their twue wuv when it could easily be Zack's influence.
Look, I'm not team Tifa or team Aerith, I'm first and foremost Team 'lovetriangles need to die in a fire' and team 'consistent characters and stories'.
@givmi_more_w9251 dude/dudette, if you were Materia, I'd have you equipped 100% of the time. I think our perception of what "chemistry" is, is the only thing that separates us, but I more or less agree with you. Rebirth's ch.14 took some real liberties imo, but we have to accept that, now, it is what it is. All still up to our interpretations. Can we like... be friends somewhere and lean on each other when it comes to these arguments? I hear Cloti is bad, but I've been absolutely DUNKED on by Clerith time and again. It often feels like I'm just not allowed to use logic.
@@givmi_more_w9251 The way I break it down is:
1) Cloud does have a mixture of some of Zack's memories, but they aren't solid enough (interpersonally) to make a clear difference. The main issue at hand is that (call it coping with trauma or whatever) Cloud gets flashes of memorable places or events, and used these events to gaslight himself into thinking he made it into SOLDIER. If personal relationships were influenced by Zack's memories then not only would we have seen a "flashback" when first meeting her in Remake but it would've been an immediate connection. The theme of the remakes seem to be about identity and the different relationships you forge in your life, be it through shared trauma or experience, but the details will be made more clear about THIS version during the 3rd installment.
2) Cloud can, and does, have feelings for both Tifa and Aerith. On the one hand, Aerith helped break him out of his "tough guy" shell in both the OG and remakes. You will naturally feel some positive connection to the person that breaks down your walls because you feel safe and comfortable around them. That's exactly what happened with Cloud and Aerith. HOWEVER, through the story Cloud realizes that Tifa has been there from the beginning. Tifa was his friend, they made promises to each other, they grew up together, and after reuniting after 5 years Tifa was still the one who invited him back into her life. I view the Cloti/Clerith debate as: "I love you because you made me feel human again" vs. "I've always loved you and I just never realized it, but now that we're adults and have addressed our issues/shared in experiences that forced us to rely on one another it's plain to see that you're it and you always have been it".
3) There absolutely is guilt on Cloud's part. Before Mideel it's the guilt of "I couldn't save her", whereas after it's survivor's guilt and the realization of the fact that Aerith needed to be a sacrificial lamb in order to save the world. Either way, it's absolutely natural and not at all selfish to blame yourself; everyone does it and if you haven't than you have never experience the death of someone close to you (and I envy you for that - not saying you personally, but you as a generalization). To claim that the guilt is borne from Zack is not only incorrect, but completely disregarding real and true feelings.
The biggest issue is from people who haven't played OG, and I'm not saying that as a purist. In the OG your relationship with Aerith was more friendly (She was the one who romanticized Cloud because he reminded her of her "first serious boyfriend") and her death scene seemed more like "I wasn't strong enough and now my friend is dead". The Mideel/Lifestream sequence proved that Aerith was only a small but important part of Cloud's life, and it was only ever about Sephiroth...but who has always been there with him? Tifa.
@@givmi_more_w9251 "love triangles need to die, but only if I am the right one". Pathetic comment
Great Video, like the og I remembered the third prediction obviously but the the other two rebirth no, good work mention it and searching the meaning.
The 2nd and third one I knew from my first playthrough, but the 1st one I was still wrapping my head around.
From the OG, you know Cait and the black materia double crossing.
The third made me think of Advent Children when Sephiroth said, "What do you cherish most, giving me the pleasure of taking it away?" And it shows Aerith, Tifa, Zack, Denzel, and Marelene.
It shows Aerith the most though in that advent children scene.
That’s what I thought too. I thought the first was Cait Sith trying to convince them to trust him
@@elowei9919and this is likely because he still held himself responsible for her death. He is still grieving about not being able to save her.
@@jramirez4310 no it’s because sephiroth asked who he cherished most. Give me the pleasure of taking it away. And it’s still Aerith. Cloud in every other game he appears in is written searching for AERITH. He’s not searching for anyone else he lost. End of. 🤷♀️
Except he loses Aerith, but doesnt lose the others
I know the fortune was given to Cloud but I'm concerned that it was Barrett who read it aloud. Hopefully it's not referring to him.
Might want to check up on Marlene, folks...
I feel like this is a convergence point of timelines. Through the tampering of the timeline from future Sephiroth, Aerith was able to work things around to help lead things to this moment.
The Cloud in Rebirth is now different from the Cloud in OG. Instead of keenly blaming himself for the next few years over her death, he's still connected to her through the lifestream.
We're seeing mixes of the OG timeline with dead Aerith and Cloud speaking voiceless words like the original material, but now he sees and feels Aerith alive in Rebirth.
Part 3 is going to be insane.
Exactly. Seph sent everyone but Aerith to the World Between Worlds to get the black materia, the OG game. The OG temple is in the Southeast, but the Rebirth one is in the North. Foreshadowing: Cissnei said she doesn't feel like Zack is gone.
Also, don't miss the implication that Aerith tipped off Marlene to "get Cloud cured", which led to Zack going to Hojo, who probably had Genesis (cured) DNA from Deepground. It seems because of this cure, Cloud recovered his memory of Zack (way ahead of schedule) and had the self-control to block Seph, which in turn is why Seph said he underestimated Aerith. Cloud wasn't a puppet like he thought.
"Ordinary luck, it will be an active fortune."
I think the last one might be Cloud 'losing everything', be it literally or metaphorically. Perhaps his timeline, reality or the original timeline.
So is Sephiroth trying to change how things unfold by doing what Kain did in Soul Reaver?
And poor Cloud is Raziel. Where everyone else is relying on him to make the choices convenient for them.
"What game is this, where every player on the board claims the same pawn?"
Cid just humming the final fantasy theme is a vibe.
Everyone is allowed to ship cloud with who they pleased and both ships are valid. But “what u cherish the most” quote is referring to aerith whether u like it or not is clear as day is about her.
It could definitely reference his identity as a soldier
@z-rossi3672 honestly that's how I interpreted it as well, I don't think Cloud is truly capable of cherishing an actual person at the moment.
To be fair, he hasn't exactly "lost" Aerith. Her spirit or whatever is still with him.
"I pity you. You just don't get it at all. There is not a thing I don't cherish." Cloud Advent Children
I'm pretty sure it's soldier. That's what he wanted the most and that's going to be how he beats sephiroth in the third game.
Remember aerith keeps asking cloud to meet the real cloud.
Not this soldier persona he created to cope.
Being a soldier was his goal.
According to advent children, sephiroth's hold on cloud is what keeps sephiroth coming back.
In rebirth sephiroth saves cloud from the midgarsomr precisely because sephiroth needs cloud to be tethered to reality
I'm betting reverse order, cause Rebirth = Reverse. 1. Gongaga Mushroom prediction (remember there was a 4th one after GS Buggy escape), 2. Aerith, 3. Cloud has the Black Materia at the end of Rebirth, 4. Twist at the end of part 3.
I know this is an outdated detail, but I love the little detail the animators put in to tell when Cloud is being controlled by Sephiroth and when it's Cloud himself. Look at his eyes: When it's Sephiroth in control/jenova, the eyes turn into slits. When it's Cloud, he has his normal circular irisis. Also something I don't see getting talked about enough is the fortune that he'll lose "What he cherishes most" and many fans wrongly speculate that they're referring to Aerith. In Advent Children, Cloud States that "There isn't a thing I don't cherish" leading me to believe the main goal of the bad guys is to make meteor happen across all timelines that are in contact with the multiversal lifestream. I really hope they do more things like this to tie in Advent Children.
I think the “cherish most” prediction was in the OG. Maybe the other two as well.
Yeah although if I remember right the wording was “You shall find what you seek, but you will lose something precious” - which could have referred to Aerith or it could have been the false Soldier persona Cloud was adopting, both of which he loses by the end of the game.
@@cathygrandstaff1957”What you pursue will be yours, but you will lose something dear” was the OG translation. And, yes, it undoubtedly refers to Aerith. It means: you will find Sephiroth, but you will lose Aerith. OG Japanese said “what you hold most dear” apparently, so maybe the new Rebirth translation is more accurate.
What is the ost at 1:06 please? 🙏
Pretty sure this happened in original too right? Or am i remembering it wrong? Hence my confusion on people just realizing it now, i mean i know big possibility of baby fans' reaction exists but stil...
Wow who would have thought Cait Sith’s first two readings turned out to be true.
Does Tifa think Cloud killed Aerith? Because in a short scene his hand is covered with blood
That's what i thought too when i saw this moment while playing, we know Sephiroth has control over Cloud whenever he wants, but we can't be sure i think she is just confused that she can see 2 different versions of what happened there.
I kinda doubt that as when fight Jenova she was pissed. Also when the rest of the party arrive they see Cloud holding Aerith in her arms and Sephiroth is also there.
Why not, he almost killed her and she forgave him.
When I played the OG, I was under the impression Cloud/Tifa was outright canon. Rebirth pretty clearly makes Cloud/Aerith canon, at least during Disc 1. What this tells me is that FF7 should never have had player shipping in the first place. Clearly they had specific romance arcs they wanted to depict regardless of our preferences.
Man Cloud and Tifa are cannon dude lol. I love Aerith but on the date scenes Cloud only kissed Tifa. Aerith even says that Cloud doesn’t like her the way she likes him.
It is true that shipping is bad and shouldn't be done by anyone.
@@the_exegete the devs clearly made their choice lol. Tifa is cannon cause out of all the date scenes, Cloud kisses Tifa dude. No arguments to be made lmao
@@the_exegete *Arguing about ships is bad and shouldn't be done by anyone.
Then in part 3 later you'll switch again 😂, the thing is FF7 is your typical harem anime which all chicks are important to you. It sucks yeah but it is what it is. Although I personally prefer Tifa, but I don't deny he does love Aerith too it's too ignorant to deny it,
same as saying Cloud doesnt love Tifa, that's also dumb conclusion. Dismissing her is the same as saying Cloud should just die to meet Aerith.
To me it's all fun to SE playing with the players' preferences. Even if Aerith is SAVED, I bet 100% SE won't ever make it obvious and leave everyone speculating forever 😂
Its almost like it was ment to happen! 🤯
The second riddle made me think of cait giving away the keystone more than the black materia...
From the moment the third fortune was read aloud I instantly knew all the fortunes were true.
# 2 kinda makes it sound like Vincent is the twist but I don't think that's it. I think it had more to do with the ending where Zack and Aerith assist Cloud.
Kinda upset Zack didn’t show up in the final scene and ask where he could buy some flowers.
Same prediction, same outcome, although people are saying aerith is still alive in a new timeline/world like Sephiroth suggests. We'll have to wait for the final part of the remake trilogy to find out what's going on here! 😍
The twist and trust was about cait taking the key for Shinra.
Total prediction for prt 3 though its rough drafted, sephiroth suceeds in reuniting the other timelines but won't go the way he is expecting, cause not only does have cloud and the others on the og timeline, now have zack who is in other timeline, areith is in the same category as sephiroth him and her are gonna have a wicked battle in the life stream i believe, and cloud and everyone will suceed but not in the way they are hoping either its gonna be a big cluster dump in prt 3
Anyone catch Cait Sith humming the Final Fantasy Main Theme song?
What confuses me though is in one world he saves her and in another she is dead , then the game basically mind fucks you so bad you have no idea whats happening , i 100% believe she will survive in some fashion but i have absolutely no idea how there going to wrap the story up in the next game 🤣 does anyone have a plausible theory ??
Aerith is able to rejoin the party but ultimately chooses to reside in a world where Zack is. There will be a tearful farewell.
The world where Zack is bound to is ending but she will still go, knowing that while there might be many worlds they all share the same lifestream. By the time of Advent Children the world will have expired, and both Aerith and Zack are there together as we saw them in the end of the movie.
Wait in the first one, does Cloud have his own whispers? Or is that because he’s part Sephiroth?
the white whispers are Aerith's
@@homrisI think the white whispers are the planet.
Sephiroth did cloud “his blessings” maybe that meant the power of whispers as well
In this ending when aerith stab by sephiroth , cloud couldnt stop it so theres blood of aerith . In the original cloud only saw sephiroth stab aerith
The whispers that let Cloud get into the city of ancients are sephirot's ones? My question is: why? 🤔
half of the comments under this video are mentioning Batman unironically now i wanna see him modded in da game lmao
Well atleast the second one is the most obvious one. 1st one is too vague because he really doesn't save Aerith Sephiroth just merges the timelines and chooses the one where she dies he is also the only one to actually enter the portal because Sephiroth wanted to give him a little push and granted his blessing it lines up so well why the black whispers open a portal when he reaches that gate, biggest scope of Sephiroth was trying to break him with Aerith's death but he legit believes he saved her I do not think it has anything to do with the fortune it could be Zack or something else. 3rd one can be either himself his own consciousness or Aerith at the ending I somewhat think everyone will have different opinion depending on who they ship here.
Dunno, the 3rd prediction can mean alot. Since it's a reference of Advent Children.
Cloud: There’s not a thing I DON’T cherish!!
@@RedDragonForce2Sephiroth: Let's do this (Sephiroth Joined the Party)
Barret: I don't even know anymore
"There's not a thing I DON'T cherish!" But who/what does he cherish MOST? Aerith. You see her twice, first thing in his memories in that scene in Advent Children. Aerith, Aerith, Tifa, Marlene, Denzel, Zack. In that order. czcams.com/video/9r76Lia6i_4/video.html
lel it's not Aerith, it's his individuality. He finds out the truth, but he loses himself.
Jesus, quit making everything romantic.
@@daedalus8494 exactly!
Fortune 1: trusting Cait Sith will pay off ( for multiple reasons)
Fortune 2: black materia will ultimately be the key to stopping Sephiroth
Fortune 3: let’s just say, going north won’t end well.
The first prediction, 'Put your trust in others, and a last-minute twist may pleasantly surprise you,'
is talking about Sephiroth from 7 seconds till the end, the real hero Sephiroth.
In the third part, it will be reversed to let us know that most of the Sephiroth we encountered before were actually JENOVA.
And the real hero Sephiroth will use the Black Materia 'not to exist' to fight against Jenova.
I still want answers. Did Cloud actually save Aerith? I know they show another timeline where she dies, but whats real what isn't? Was she or was she not saved? Or is Aerith both alive and dead? Alive in one dead in another and what was up with Aerith in the end? She she a ghost was Cloud in the timeline where she died? Nothing makes sense.
You'll simply have to wait for the next game
Does that include the recipe of a birthday cake for one? Or the Shintra dating app?
Shinra maybe a horrible evil company, but they can build robots like no one else.
The first fortune was about Cait betraying them, then saving them, then being alive again.
I was actually thinking I wonder what it is Cloud cherishes most. Is it Aerith? Is it Tifa? Or is it the persona of the brave Ex-Soldier first class he’s adopted? We know from the original he loses Aerith and the false persona as part of the story. But perhaps Advent Children has the answer “There’s nothing in the world I don’t cherish” has some implications for the foreshadowing that the world will be destroyed at the end of the trilogy.
It's his ego as the ex-soldier he built
it is Aerith because he doesn't lose Tifa in the series, you gonna lose your brain cell forcing your headcanon. it is clear as day, like do you really think he even cherishes his fake persona and his false memory plus being under sephiroth control?
@@fadlanfadilah1171 it's not a person who loses that he cherishes because Aerith is a person not a thing
@@nekogamer2508 ????
He can cherish everything and also have something he cherishes most tho I dont understand when people use that AC quote as a comeback. Its clearly Aerith.
One thing I thought is that Cait Sith's VA sounded kinda...awkward in the beginning, as if he was warming up to the character over time.
I think the first could also be about Cait Sith himself.
They trusted him, and he betrayed them, only to come back and "sacrifice" himself so they could escape the Temple.
He literally came back after he "sacrificed" himself
Cait Sith is the Professor Trelawney of this game.
You know, in Advent Children, Cloud says that there isn’t a single thing he doesn’t cherish.
Given this prediction? That’s pretty ominous.
Whoops. Someone else pointed this out. 😂
Cait sith = ron weasly 😂
I'm confused as to what sephiroth's goal is. He knows that defying fate splits the world in two possibilities. He asked cloud seven seconds what would you do?
It means sephiroth knows that if cloud stops him from killing aerith it will only create another world where she lives. And after the world merging, the world where she's alive will linger, able to summon holy against sephiroth.
It seems different from og, but it's basically the same to me. Aerith is still able to summon holy "somewhere". We just thought aerith did it in og from the lifestream, but now we know that she's gonna do it from that created timeline, merged with cloud's original timeline.
From my understanding sephiroth was not able to do anything that could change his fate (win against cloud). 🤷🏻♂️
Or am i missing something here?
Edit: this is why i think sephiroth in remake is NOT the sephiroth from AC. He was not a time traveller. He was the same sephiroth from OG. OG details were just expanded to create a more complex story (ie wounding world in og is just via meteor, but now we knew that wounding world is tearing timelines, merging them and final blow with meteor)
The first one isn’t that. It’s when Aerith used the wind to save him from being knocked off the platform to his death in the TOTA
He must have done the right thing giving the Keystone away because sonething worse might have been... On the cards.
He didn't create an alternate timeline where he saved Aerith. Aerith died, the one he sees is clearly a manifestation of the lifestream. They make it pretty obvious with the green light always floating around her. So that doesn't really work. That wasn't a surprise, or him throwing caution to the wind. Maybe it will prove true eventually, but you are incorrect about it paying off in rebirth.
especially since the game goes to great lengths to show that in every world where Aerith lives, the planet dies. I'm not sure if that is what I would classify as a "pleasant surprise"
Exactly
i thought the 1st one was about cait siths betrayal
5:16 time to wake up.
Only a sith deals an absolute
The others didn't see Sephiroth kill Aerith. Only Cloud, Zack and Aerith fight Sephiroth. Cloud may have actually killed Aerith himself, while being controlled by Sephiroth/Jenova. That's why pressing L2+R2 doesn't do anything. Also, Sephiroth's clones wouldn't have been able to make it to the Forbidden City for him to bodyswap.
So i romanced Tifa. But with the way he is acting with Aerith at the end, i got the impression that he likes Aerith just a bit more than Tifa. Which i think is "cannon" because in Advent children he is distant from Tifa and the party dwelling on Aeriths death, than Tifa like the queen that she is, finally puts her foot down saying "what is it going to be, a memory or us?"
@@saylessreaux3263 my theory is based on that given time in the story.. I'm glad he chooses Tifa in the end but the question still stands if Aerith was still around would he pick Tifa or Aerith? I think Square Enix did this on purpose to allow the players to make that decision for ourselves in gameplay
'Why are you acting so weird?" "This isn't you" "talk to me" in what context does these sort of things imply that he has bigger preference with Aerith nonetheless the entire "date" is about Aerith enjoying her last moments in that timeline being fully aware that sephiroth found her and wants to give cloud the operational white materia to save the world the entire thing date is just a red herring and just a distraction and to an extent it's practically their farewell to each other because she dies in the main world and Sephiroth is hunting her in the other worlds.
@@soulconjure8823 so you chose one specific part in ac to fit your narrative?
And for clarification purposes even though the scenes are optional, they are all canon. You can choose who you want to go on a date with but you can’t dictate clouds actions during the date. Cloud's actions are Canon and not optional. The fact that he is the one to initiate a kiss with Tifa means that one thing is clear. Cloud loves Tifa.
@@saylessreaux3263 I had Aerith and Yuffie in my playthroughs so there he never kissed Tifa. How is that canon if they don't make it known to all players?
@@tonymaccaroni1683 they all happened. You just choose the one you want to see. Which isn’t a problem..
Tell me what you cherish the most. Give me the pleasure of taking it away
Aerith 100% died again he didn't create a parallel world with that block
I think watch your belongings; lucky colour is black more has to do with Cait stealing the black materia
This is great, they did all come true, despite being contradictory. Cloud saves Aerith in another timeline, but not in the primary one.
it explained in the loveless play that none can divine the conclusion of every path. also the theme of remake is defying fate?? so that's that.
Watch your belongings = Yuffie robbing them.
You're right that all three are true, but I can say from experience that whatever Nomura has planned it's not so straightforward. Expect a lot of bait and switches with red herrings. Sincerely, a Kingdom hearts fan that has dived deep into theory crafting Nomura works and no one ever guesses what's actually happening
I mean it’s a fortune wht did u think was finna happen did no one think about this? 😂 cause ngl im a hard believer 🙏🏽
reminds me of Simon Pegg
I think the first one was about ignoring Sephiroth, and trust Tifa. The last minute twist might be referring to Zack another ally
Tha last one was about Aerith.
Sucks that we gotta wait 5 years for the next game 😮💨
30th anniversary for FF7 is 2027, expect part 3 then.
So far it's a 1 to 1 remake of OG FF7. Nothing actually changed. But they're leaning heavily into the Advent Children lore of Aerith being part of the life stream. Who knows.
My other theory is this is the FF7 world that is part of Dissidia lore and these are the FF7 characters that we see sprinkled throughout Kingdom Hearts. 😂
he has aerith empty white materia from another world, so something DID change.
In a way, Cloud never really left the Temple of Ancients
What u mean
I don't think he saved Aerith in a parallel world, he just thinks he did because he's messed up even more so than before, not long before that he was unhinged as fuck trying to retrieve the black materia.
She died and his brain is coping with it, by giving him a hallucination.
I dunnoo… that color is not lucky at all considering it can literally wipe out the entire world if not universe
Almost like it was part of a script ;)
7 seconds to the end
But what happened to everyone in the world where he saved her? Why are we forced into only playing the world where she dies? Idk. I hate multiverse shit. It’s always a cop out for doing whatever with whoever
The amount of Clotis trying to avoid talking about Aerith as someone Cloud cherishes is funny.
The soldier's identity is there, Tifa is there. The friendship is there. "Forever lose what you cherish most."
Seriously? The one that died in OG is Aerith, and the story goes along with it. He act so distant with the squad in AC after Aerith's death and that shows how much he cares for her, even lived in her church to feel closer to her & ignored the squad including Tifa.
Same goes for AC Sephiroth taunting him with "Tell me what you cherish most." &
"Give me the pleasure of taking it all away."
And he immediately thought of Aerith first, twice! Zack and then Aerith again in his eyes before others came to screen.
Since we have different timelines the possibilities are infinite now.
Accept it. It's Aerith since the beginning that he cherishes.
The game shows Cloud crying and weeping over Aerith and you guys saying he doesn't feel anything about Aerith 😂 are you that dense?
He doesn't live in the Church in AC until he gets geostigma. He lives with Tifa. He leaves them because he is going to die. The romance shit between Aerith and Cloud had no basis and came out of nowhere honestly, that is why people take issue with it. If you got the Tifa date at the saucer and they had this big moment, it is weird for this last hour to suddenly be 'cloud is in love with aerith' only. I ,personally, think he truly loves both of them and if it was Tifa who died he would act the same for Tifa. He is traumatized and death seems to be hard for him to deal with altogether. Doesn't help that Aerith won't leave him alone in the lifestream either lol thinking about it
@@JustKelso1993 that's right, he rather spend the last hour of his life alone in the church rather than with Tifa, think about that for a second. Also, no one is saying he only loves aerith, you clotis should read carefully before getting triggered.
@@JustKelso1993 He lives in 7th Heaven with Tifa, Barret, Marlene and Denzel at first before leaving them. It's not just Tifa alone. You coming around saying Cloud doesn't feel anything with Aerith is your opinion. SE has made it clear who's the main heroine in both Remake and Rebirth. At least we aren't in denial when the ending credits all defaulted to Aerith and most of the dates favour more to Aerith as default Rosa. (4/6) Also the trophies are mostly Clerith. I've seen some of the streamers couldn't even sit through the game cause even after romancing Tifa, the storyline goes through Clerith route and it shows on their face on how confusing it was to them but not to Clerith cause Aerith is the intended route.
I didn't say Cloud in love with Aerith only, Tifa has her moments with Cloud too but she's not the main heroine. SE gave fanservice to you guys with those optional scenes that you'll need to work your way to romance her (And need to lessen your relationship with Aerith) while with Aerith you can maximize all character relationships and still get Aerith. It's obvious. You just can't accept it.
@@JustKelso1993 it's because of Aerith he find the strength to keep going in AC. Tifa couldn't help him much and ended up putting pressure on him instead.
Aerith helped heal him while fighting Kadaj, using the same water that soon became cure for the Geostigma.
You're telling me Aerith who's also the same person wanted Cloud to be safe by sacrificing herself and helped Cloud to forgive himself in AC is "shit coming out of nowhere" ? If there's no Aerith, AC won't be complete.
Plus your so-called couple doesn't end up together, the man barely able to answer when Tifa asks if he loves her.
If they're so in love, SE would've made them get married already.
What I find funny is, people are so heavy into this particular debate, but ultimately, with all the different ways you can interpret things, or things added in later, or whatever else, it all boils down to one dichotomy. There are two canon options. Cloud either has a romantic relationship with Tifa, or he has a platonic relationship with her. There is no canon option for a relationship with Aerith.
Also fun fact, Cloud and Aerith never truly meet in the first place. Cloud ONLY knows Aerith through the veil of his mind being shattered shattered, and he is incorporating Zack's stories into his own persona (a huge part of which is Zack's descriptions of the girl he likes, which matches up to Aerith, because it literally is Aerith.). On the other hand, Aerith ONLY knows Cloud while he is trying to force himself into Zack's role, which reminds Aerith of her first love (because Zack literally is her first love.). So, they are drawn to each other based purely off of the lie that Cloud is veiling over himself. I honestly don't understand the Cloud X Aerith arguments, when they have never legitimately met each other in a true manner.
BTW, who ever said that Cloud doesn't feel anything about Aerith? He obviously cares about her, she is his dear friend. Arguably more than that while he is dealing with his shattered mind (again, due to the fact that she perfectly matches up to the stories Zack told him about his girlfriend, because she is that same person, and Cloud is trying to emanate Zack subconsciously, thereby causing him to draw close to her.), but on the off chance that there is anyone who says that Cloud feels nothing about her, are blatantly wrong.
Just like the og. It came true
No Sephiroth, chief among them is actually fuckin up the ending into a confusing mess, then it's all that other crap.