1998-2004 Chrysler Concorde / LHS / 300M / Dodge Intrepid IIHS Small Overlap Crash Test (Research)
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- An IIHS Small Overlap Crash Test into a pole at 40 Mph (64 Km/h). 25% Overlap. This was an IIHS Research test to assess dummy kinematics using various barrier types.
Barrier used: 250mm radius pole "Pole 250"
Dummy Readings:
HIC - 424
Head G's - 154 (Max 80 - Contact with Pillar)
Readings also indicate upper leg injuries.
This would be a very poor performance by modern standards - but back in the day, this car was typical (if unexceptional) for its class, earning an "Acceptable" rating in the moderate-overlap test. Even though there are several manufacturers that historically have done better than Chrysler in IIHS tests, this result is more a testament to the improvements in car safety in the last 20 years than to any particular weakness with Chrysler.
I inherited a 2001 concorde from my granddad, hope i neverget in an accident after seeing this my confidence is pretty low! 😁
In an accident, the Concorde will demolish most cars on the road. I've crashed a couple of them, and I am still here.
Just make sure you see what’s coming and crank the steering wheel hard right at the last minute and miss whatever you’re going to hit🤣🤣🤣
Do you still have it?
@@inaz1963 I had a dodge intrepid and went through a concrete wall in it. Not a scratch on me. Car even started ran and moved on its own afterwards.
It's 2023 and I BET ANY MONEY that car isn't still running lmfao😂😂😂. Probably engine slug
I used to own a 1999 Concorde. Had an oncoming car veer over the centerline once. I swerved to get out of the way. Seeing this I am especially glad I got out of the way.
Holy shhhhh you're blessed
Well, cars deform and absorb energy, that pole was unmovable and had zero give. In the real world, car to car or car to small tree or car to small pole, I’d imagine the car would fare much better.
1998 - I'm driving a safe, solid and well put together Concorde. 2018 - I was actually seating in a death trap...
Acting in good faith, and with what they knew back in 1998, you couldn't be blamed for thinking you had a safe car.
All in all it is a safe car. Small overlap test where not even a thing back in 1998 and hitting another vehicle and not a stationary pole I’m sure it would do pretty well
It is safe. Just not when running into an extremely narrow pole that has no give whatsoever, which is a ridiculous scenario that would never happen in real life.
@@xq39 Well crashes like this can simulate a number of things. Hitting trees barrier edges and even clipping buildings.
@@Kaputnik11 Not to mention another vehicle. Seeing the cabin crumple like that though makes me question that person’s survival rate.
Crash test dummy's dying last words:
"Tell my dummy wife and my dummy babies I love them".
I wanna see how some of the old poor rated cars would do in the small overlap test, it would be disastrous.
Xaerot Especially the Pontiac Trans Sport or Chevrolet Cavalier.
Just imagine one of those X-Framed GM cars like the '59 Chevy 4dr post they ran into the '09 Malibu doing one of these tests.
00crashtest that's one I've always wanted to see go through all of the new tests. Especially the small overlap and roof strength. Also don't forget about the Ford F-150. That did horrible.
GreenJeep1998 I can't imagine how bad that crash test would be
Steel dashboard, solid steering column, wraparound windshield, X frame, no seat belts, seat *bolts* that shear off in collisions... Yeah there's reason why the "good old cars" aren't made like that anymore. Don't get me wrong because they still LOOK nice outside of that.
I wrecked the absolute fuck out of a 300m and me and the passenger Walked away without a scratch. This test doesn’t make up the majority of crashes
I rolled a 2002 Intrepid 16 times and lived, was pretty banged up but survived
This car would pass all safety checks in China with flying colours!.....love the sparking cables at 2:33 :-D
C-IASI would beg to differ.
Logico tiene conexiones electricas pues ya no usa el motor a gasolina
We don't know that, but we know that it passed them in USA since it went into production and was sold.
Why China, it’s a 2004 car and it’s been in production for many year, you racist
😂😂😂😂😂😂 laughing in the background of this utter failure is priceless.
I went to the IIHS on July 28, 2009, four months after this was crash tested, and saw this wrecked Concorde on display. This was a research crash test used to develop the small overlap crash test protocol.
February 23, 2019 6:35 am
Oh hi
Dude u are everywhere, just saw u on the IIHS stream, Neilogical's video... etc.
Any more information on the time you went to iihs?
@@beamboi2775 That time I saw a Dodge Journey front offset crash test. It was my 2nd of 2 trips, first being a year earlier on August 5, 2008 when I saw a 2009 Hyundai Genesis in the same type of offset test. These were moderate overlap, small overlap was in the research phase and wouldn’t be used to rate cars until 2012.
December 10, 2022 7:32 am
@@whattheheck1000 oh that’s cool
2004Chrysler Concorde .. not running.. selling for parts .. HMU
-IIHS
Insta kill.. Driver eating dashboard and airbag
You would probably lose your left leg if you had this crash at 20 mph
It states head G’s 154...max 80. I’d say he’s dead along with upper leg injuries. That’s the least of ones worries tho.
lukalukic1 I wonder if it tastes good
Yea that’s definitely a serious injury if not death from the force of it on impact shits brutal
@@MoneyManHolmes someone pulled out in front of me when I was doing 60mph, I hit them head on, my lung collapsed and broke my pelvis in multiple places. That was 3 months ago, today was my first day walking without a walker :)
it completely missed the chassis
25% narrow overlap tests are designed to miss the frame rail
so 50% of the car is void of safety?
Have you not seen modern IIHS tests? Every single one of the "narrow overlap" tests misses the frame rail, and they do that specifically to test the fenders and safety cage.
yeah but not at 25%, that's crazy.
That's the point.
I have a 99 concorde, it has been mostly trouble free-- with almost 219k miles. the engine runs flawlessly-- Bulletproof. . i did have to replace the speed sensor 8k miles ago.
Which engine do you have? Are you original owner?
I pray you never get in a wreck
Здравствуй друг. Не знаю владеешь ли ты сейчас конкордом, но я имею LHS 1998 года уже 20 лет. И продавать его не хочу. Правда это не единственная конечно же машина в семье. У нас в стране они очень редкие и конечно же все смотрят как на супер редкий автомобиль. Езжу только по праздникам, в ресторан. в кино))
czcams.com/video/jPaUTbUYNFo/video.html мой автомобиль
Not gonna lie, this is a tough test, even harder than a small overlap I think, because the pole is so narrow, but the car is absolutely a piece of shit design. Completely missed all front structural elements, and cut right through into the driver's compartment like it was cheese cake. Quite a disastrous fail!
Leuel48Fan This is not harder than a small overlap test. Not at all.
Imagine a drunk driver hitting a pole in that same way.
Literally all old cars just weren’t safe... except Saab’s and Volvo’s
Terrible results. American car manufacturers didn’t really get the front crumple zones down until the mid 00’s.
My Dad hit a pole in an 84 Caprice Sedan at maybe 45 MPH, the pole hit in the middle of the car and then the pole fell on the car's roof. The pole only went through the bumper and radiator and stopped at the engine block. He survived (he had the seat belt on) although it may have helped cause an ulcer a month later (then again, that wouldn't have been the only contributing factor to the ulcer.)
Gotta love the uninformed comments, that decide that a car that passed all the standards for "The Time When It Was Made",.. is suddenly a 'crap car' because it doesn't pass the more rigorous Standards of Twenty Years Later.
Engineering, like Testing, Evolves. What is considered amazing crash performance today, will look ridiculously bad in another twenty years time.
So they never thought of running into a telephone Pole 20 years ago ?
@@PrettyGoodLookin Actually, No, they didn't. This test didn't exist when those cars were manufactured, it has been adopted since as the crash protection standards have evolved, with more common incident conditions being tested for before hand, such as the side on impact from some dick running the lights, or the front on impact from some dick crossing lanes in to on-coming traffic - the ones caused by operator stupidity have been done first, with the ones that represent the incident that happens after one dodges the idiot and is forced off the road in the process, hitting the tree if they've avoided the idiot.
No word on if there's a test for evaluating which dick's don't stop after running others off the road.
I like how even with an eight foot long hood, they extend the crumple zone into the driver's seat
I'm just going out on a limb here...but I don't think they're going to walk away from that.
AversaS I see what you did there
Glad to see they make poles great again.
Folks it’s a 2004. This car was never designed with this test in mind
Seriously. Most commenters don't know what they're talking about
It doesn't matter. Safety was never a priority to them. Look at the Neon.
Someone has an axe to grind. You could say the same of GM... every offset crashtest with 90s-early 2000s GMs was horrendous.
I would have never guessed
F M safety still isn’t a priority to Chrysler/Fiat Products.
Pole: How much intrusion?
This car: *Y E S*
Craigslist post. One owner. Loved and non smoking. Loved and cared for. Only in one accident. Motor runs transmission solid. Needs cosmetics.
Yes. I've searched.
Hey I’m a big fan where do you find these videos I’ve always wanted to know 😉
AC milan Eterno Amore thank you
Honda Accord guy 05
Adrian after seeing this I’d advise selling it.
Wrecks and Tech I was talking about the Honda but I think that would have a similar outcome to the Chrysler .
Adrian I can assure you that the outcome would be worse
This car probably would perform well in the 50% offset the institute performs. 2020 models are struggling to perform well in this 25% offset crash. When this vehicle was manufactured a full frontal 35 mph test was government sufficient.
Sparks at 2:33
Damien St-Amand-Meunier That's because of where the battery is placed on these Concorde/300M sedans, it's just like below the left headlight
Imagine if there was fuel around.
The broken cables
My two current cars kicked butt in all the crash tests (2008 Taurus and 2019 Stinger). I’m surprised this big modern era Chrysler did so poorly.
Cars weren’t tested for this style of crash untill the 2000s. Most cars didn’t do “well” by modern standards untill around 2012-14
This big Chrysler only weighs 3500lbs. Your Taurus weighs 4000lbs. Why? It has extra heavy metal it doesn't need just to pass this stupid test so people like you can't call it a death trap.
I feel like this is more of a tree trunk crash test than a telephone pole crash test, since the pole is really strong and won't move. Telephone poles (at least safe ones) are designed to break away at the base and fall over if a car hits them to lower the injury to the driver. (if you look at the bottom of the telephone pole, you'll see the bolts to the ground and that is where it might break off when hit) I'm not 100% sure of this information but I recall reading about it.
Wow I owned this exact year and color … never knew I was driving a death trap 🪤
You weren't. They're safe cars. This test is hitting a pole with one tire. Tires are not a structural element. Nothing can pass this test not even a Peterbilt.
4:39 I can't tell if it's rigid or loose, but either way that steering wheel position looks... uncomfortable.
It's loose
That's awful. It looks like the entire front end separated from the rest of the car!
I've been wanting to see this test performed on an older car. The results were about what I thought, but a little worse.
On March 19th 2009 (3/19/09.) a 1998 Chrysler Concorde was crash tested into a pole by the iihs. This car didn’t do very well the structural performance was worse than I’d like to see. The dummy reading show a broken upper left leg
so it was a leg cutter since the early 2000s
To the people saying FCA sucks.this is a pre FCA vehicle.daimler chrysler was the designer.
Brandi youravish Actually it would have been Chrysler Corporation, though most Concordes of this generation were built under Daimler Chrysler ownership. This was the second generation Concorde, made from 1997-2004 (model years 1998-2004). As such it would have been designed in the mid 1990s. Daimler Chrysler was formed in Nov 1998.
I believe the Concorde was facelifted for 2002, so some minor things may have been designed by Daimler Chrysler. But the basic safety design came out in 1997, so almost all of the safety design for this vehicle was done by then.
February 23, 2019 6:45 am
Sick sick display.....i just Saw the 5 series Bmw tested, and Im so glad that its the car i drive on a Daily.
At 1:42, you can see the major problem. The front crumple zone (the grayish blue piece of metal completely untouched in the middle of the car and the glossy black bar that runs across it) is completely bypassed by the pole. Normally, those crash members would stop something intruding. The pole instead goes right around it, smashes through the softest parts of the car, and cuts right into the passenger compartment. I gotta say- the same thing has happened to other cars in this test, but the A-pillar and rocker panels at least stopped the pole from intruding into the cabin. The Concorde's A-pillar just gave up right away. This is terrifying to watch a car with such weak structure collapse like this.
Woah there! Back up bud. Lemme simplify this down to something you can comprehend a little easier.
Both the navy blue and beige Concordes are put through the same tests- mild overlap into a pole- difference is, this navy blue Concorde ran the crash at a speed more comparable to the standards of the tests conducted every day by the IIHS.
The other Concorde, beige, was tested at around half that speed, which is why you THINK it passed. Reality is, the beige Concorde fared better in the test run at that slow speed, yes, but that isn't a realistic comparison to all the other cars that have passed this test run at nearly twice the speed of the beige.
Either you're a Concorde owner (unfortunately for you, because that must be a pretty rough life to HAVE to drive a Concorde for whatever reason lol) or you just can't read what the side of the cars say. Or, for some reason you're just defending a garbage mid-2000s Chrysler product. All possibilities of why you snapped at me (a stranger, someone you literally don't know) are equally scary.
hahahahahah
To load it up unto a flatbed, have to use a snatch. block since the left wheel won" t turn for a proper recovery.
It's a good thing pre-recession era dodges spent more time being fixed than driven with their abysmal safety record.
@Derick Smith This Concorde is a death trap compared to a 2016 A4. It only got an Acceptable in the front MODERATE overlap crash test that the 2016 A4, and most vehicle designs from 2003 and up pass with a Good rating. (Although this Concorde is a 2004, its design dates back to 1998)
July 31, 2019 9:14 pm
if you own one,hire a driver& use the back seat& fasten your seatbelts on the back.you gonna be OK.
I can only imaging what the convertible version would be like. Those things used to be everywhere back then and now they are nowhere to be found.
You're thinking of the Sebring. Different platform from the LH platform that underpins the Concorde. It probably wouldn't do well regardless.
When I was 10, in 2003, I wanted a Chrysler Concorde as my first car. When I was 19 I got my first car, a 2008 Honda Accord. I was a lot smarter at 19 than at 10.
April 25, 2019 8:36 am
You’re a douche.
August 25, 2019 12:16 pm
No words...
Happy new year 🥳
This car was designed before the small overlap was a test.
How poor the other poor rated cars would do in a small overlap
1997 Pontiac Trans Sport: It'll crumple like a can. Yes I do that.
1997 Chevrolet Astro: It'll turn into the letter U.
1995 Chevrolet Cavalier: The roof will rip in half.
1999 Ford F150: Every moment of survival will be replaced with you ascending to heaven.
1995 Chrysler Cirrus: Same as both Chevys I already mentioned. A painful U.
1996 Mitsubishi Mirage: GET GRINDED, SON!
1999 Nissan Quest: The roof became its side.
1994 Mitsubishi Galant: The door can measure how far the floor rammed back. About 20-22 inches. Soooo, you're dead!
1999 Pontiac Grand Am: Doesn't look that bad before you get to the floor.
1995 Ford Contour: Eh, needs more overlap. Ne--OH MY GOD! The legs!
1995 Chevrolet Blazer: The dummy looks back atcha again and says "I regret signing up".
1999 Mitsubishi Montero Sport: MY LEGS CAN'T MOVE! I'VE PARALYZED THEM!
1994 Kia Sephia: "I've seen better days when I'm not a pancake in my own car"
1994 Isuzu Rodeo: Oh my god, the whole car collapsed at the A pillar! "I'M GONNA NEED SO MUCH CPR!"
1998 Isuzu Amigo: The wheel blinded me.
1999 Daewoo Leganza: Looks normally bad until you see the legs.
1994 Dodge Neon: Yep, he's dead. Extremely dead.
How dare you forget the 1999 Nissan Quest & 1999 Mitsubishi Montero sport!
@@titan9259 Okay, I'll edit it. It's somewhere in the comment.
You also forgot the 1998 Dodge Dakota!
Even the crash test car is leaking lol
En la madre!!! Pero bueno es la primera vez que veo una prueba contra ese poste
Even though everyone will agree that this was a very crappy car, in more ways than one, this test would be hard to pass even for today's safest cars. Let's see how a comparable size and weight 2015 Mercedes-Benz S-Class would fare ?
Probably pretty well, many cars from the mid 2010s and later do well in this test.
April 1, 2019 12:26 am
These are not crappy cars people like you who drove them were just crappy drivers. A car lasts only as long as it's driver allows it.
I had a 1993 Intrepid (Not all that much difference to this design) Loved that car, but daaaaamn I’m glad I never wrecked it!!
Was rear ended in it and it fared well in that, but seeing this... holy shit if you watch the top view the car nearly split in half!
Maybe that is why they gave these shitty transmissions, so they wouldn’t last long enough to be wrecked 😂
Seriously though, even for the age of the car this is pretty poor
my family had a chrysler town and country, 2003 and dodge grand caravan, 2004. both with failing transmission. i wasn't sure if transmission issues were a common issue or just bad maintenance. many people tell me chrysler's build poor quality parts, some parts even from india. yuck.
I wrecked a 99 LHS, and it destroyed the Altima that hit me. Knocked the Altima into the opposite lane of traffic. The transmission from that car ended up in a 2001 Concorde I picked up at the junk yard. Great car.
this car is fairly safe.
this is an extreme unrealistic test. it's fairly safe for hitting another car.
Not safe and you would think you are safe knowing this is a full size car
Why did the dummy had to spend its last seconds in that
We've come a long way. Sheesh.
Everybody is saying it did terrible, but isn't this a good result considering that the car absorbed a lot of energy? The more mangled and unrecognizable the car is, the slower the deceleration on the occupants?
Only to a point. The problem here is that the safety cage, or the parts of the car that comprise the passenger compartment, collapsed. It's fine for the front of the vehicle to crumple and absorb that energy, but you want the dashboard and the driver's footwell to pretty much stay the same shape and size as they were before the crash. In this case, the steel there collapsed to the point that the driver would have crushing leg and pelvic injuries.
I own one of these exact same cars. How did they ever get it up to speed without it throwing a code and going into limp mode?
nah how did it start up without issues?
Serious head, neck, wrist injuries.
I don't believe the car is rated for a thin pole to slice throught the front. I mean you might as well put a tree through the side while you're at it
My first car was a Concorde, I was injured by hitting a blue Infiniti when the driver ran a red light and I went at the time he smashed into the driver door.
I just bought an 04 concord a few days ago, and it was even registered before i almost got hit. Was omw to the bmv and some idiot in a white jeep pulled out in front of me, and i swerved into the opposite lane. Had i not, i would have hit him on my fiances side and i would have been in a lot of legal trouble because i have no insurance and the care wasnt even registered even if the other person was responsible for it. Im glad i dodged it because I had i not. It would have been terrible
Y'all must love your jobs (IIHS)... it looks very exciting, I want to work with y'all now... what a joy it is to destroy old and new vehicles 😂👍
Fun fact, I have one , it did fail because the bumper bar is not wide enough to absorb an impact, so if I am heading to a light post I have to make sure to hit right on the middle 😂
Would you rather?
This car OR The nissan Quest?
Doesn't matter you will be dead anyway
Narrow overlap in these old cars is ridiculous
And now, there's no light cars because even small cars were over 3000 lbs before the economics of it caught up. You can't make a tiny tank for yesterday's money
The beginning of the small overlap
Never was to crazy about them cars. But at 40 mph not a lot survives
Not true I t boned someone at 35mph and was able to drive it off the road and still open the door. If they die at 40mph they weren't wearing seatbelts or had their feet on the dash.
Now in 2020 this will a 5 star rating
😮 tore through it like a tin can.
I dont know whats the point of small overlap test? Simulating cars going off road and hit poles?
My grandmother had a 1997 LHS, owned it until two years ago when she passed away. An absolute mechanical nightmare. I was always worried about her in this thing ever since I saw these videos back in the day.
basically don't partially drive into steel poles people and you'll all be safe.
Safety rating: POOR. Another driver bites the dust of heaven if they crash this car
ALL cars get poor on this test because it basically slices ALL cars in half.
I think might be injured call 119, I'm going to call 119
When you have old cars like this, they make you a safer driver. Because you know what may happen if you screw up so you don't screw up. New cars give you a false sense of security because they make you feel like matter what you do you'll be safe if you crash. Umm, the goal is to prevent crashes not encourage crashes. I'll take an old LHS over this new junk any day.
One man at IIHS has controlled & dictated how safe cars should be. As cars got safer they got more expensive. And he kept demanding more safety. So here we are folks, at the point where families can't afford to pay $20,000 for a brand new family sedan. And notice, even with all the safety features demanded by that one man at IIHS, his car insurance rates aren't getting any lower. It's all a scam! Don't you guys see it?
Hell yeah
Why Are most of the cars hitting a solid pole. Test needs to be two cars in different direction to get an accurate test. But regardless that is a car i will never buy
Just because a car is bigger does not mean it’s safer. It’s just a false sense of security.
Hey no frame damage!
HIC of 424 means you gonna be fucked up bad. And head Gs acceleration of 154, thats like being hit by a hammer thrown off a 10 story building. So the head hit the pillar probably at 40mph. Which is yes, very deadly. Compare this to say top safety pi ck + Subaru legacy, which got a HIC of 69, bruises basically and HEad Gs of 0 because the head was not hit by anything. They say you would walk away after hitting a pole at 40mph. But for a 2004, this vehicle looks safe to me. It is a $500 car now. Your 2018 Subaru will cost $700 a month for 6 years. Depends on your lifestyle.
The last comfortable car. 😢
*InTeNsE oOoOoF*
Try many other cars of the era. Shame upon those of you that say it happened because it a Chrysler.
Damn with that Chrysler that’s instant death
I call that a fail.
i feel bad for the dummies knees
The energy of impact was absorbet by car...This all we have to have...in a crash test..Dummy had got no injury at all..!! ...
3:06 - Wow, that's horrific!
only cuz it's an extreme unrealistic test.
it is fairly safe for a more normal head on hit with another car.
Not even a "small overlap", it's basically a can opener!
Да хорошо сложилась
What a pile of garbage on wheels, even for a car that old. It's got the structural rigidity of a coke can. You can even hear the people in the background laughing.
But then you had the idiots buying those cars in the first place.
derbigpr500 😂😂😂
It's a small overlap test, very few cars considered to be safe for the era would've scored even a poor rating on the small overlap, and the few that did do well (First gen Ford Fusion comes to mind) basically performed well by accident. In 2004 the small overlap test was barely a thought in the IIHS.
No car from that era does well in this test.
David Cavalari see european dynamictestcenter small overlap tests of old EU cars. Almost all of them did better even a fucking Skoda Octavia
If the passenger side was the side being wrecked then there would be battery acid everywhere
It's a used car.
It's a Narrow overlap, they never did this test in 2004.
Even some of new cars can't pass for this narrow hit. And it's very rare to happen in a real world.
It's a paranoic-propaganda. That's why the new cars are so similar today
Jajaja esa prueba no la pasa ni un Volvo 😉
Well, that was catafuckingstrophic LOL!
My neighbor is gonna die in one of these....
Every one of these should’ve been crash tested this way :D
*sips boomer juice* "I wouldn't be caught dead in that little honda civic you're driving!" *hops into domestic soda can*
That's pretty bad
Wow looks pretty bad so I guess it's a good thing there aren't too many of those pieces of crap still on the road right? Most of them didn't survive the 5-year mark due to their poor reliability.
What are you talking about? These cars aren't known for poor reliability. Chrysler sold hundreds of thousands of Concordes/LHSs/300Ms/Intrepids and there's still a ton of them on the road 15-20 years later. I own one
And we thought only those Chinese brands were bad performers at crash tests.
U know it's bad when the dummy doesn't survive!
3:55 let me just take one final nap
I thought these were really nice cars, but that crash test looks NASTY.