Revisiting the Glock 44 and testing the "junk ammo" narrative with a Taurus TX-22.
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There has been a lot of discussions about the Glock 44 and its reliability on the discussion forums. Previously we had lots of problems with the reliability of the Glock 44. We applied some magazine loading tricks we found on the Glock website and based on what other G44 owners were suggesting worked for them. Then we put the "Remington is junk ammo" and "Federal is junk ammo" theory to the test by comparing the Glock 44 to the Taurus TX22.
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They have shot 141 types of ammo in an apparent effort to find a brand that works.
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Savage, but true.
Is there even that many manufactures?🤣
To be honest, I don't care if the "snake oil" style methods described on these forums provide 100% function in the G44 or not. The lack of an out of box threaded barrel option, the limited capacity, and crappy sights along with the finicky nature of the Glock make this gun a no go for me. I mean, seriously, it already takes longer to load mags than to empty them while on the range. I don't want to have to stand on one leg, hold my breath, and raise my left eyebrow exactly 3 millimeters to make the gun work with cheap, readily available ammo. It feels weird to say this, especially since I EDC a G19 or G17 pretty much every day, but gimme the Taurus over the Glock in this case. Thank you for putting out this kind of content and not toeing the industry line, Tim. It means the world to me, and I'm sure to others as well.
Thanks man. Just remember, it's our Patreons that make this type of no BS commentary and testing possible. If we were reliant on the manufacturers we would have to behave more like the gun magazines to protect our ability to survive as a business. Since we're viewer supported, we have extreme latitude when it comes to what we say and how straight forward we can be.
@@Militaryarmschannel Of course. I apologize if my comment came off as demeaning to your process. That was not my intent at all. I myself am a Patreon supporter and I thoroughly enjoy all of your content. My comment was aimed at my distaste for the G44 and the lack of features and reliability. Had it not been for the content you've been making on the gun, I would have assumed it was 100% good to go out of the box, so I really appreciate you testing it and posting honest results. Again, I'm truly sorry if you or any other Patreon took my comment as an affront to the work you do here or your unbiased information.
@Viscous Shear lol youre joking right? the 19 does not have a cycling issue haha
@Viscous Shear I run a ton of ammo through a S&W 15-22. Everything from Aguila Super Extra high velocity, CCI Mini Mags, CCI Stingers, CCI Velocitors, to Winchester SuperX high velocity hollow points all work great. The only thing that's gave me problems is federal syandard velocity hollow points, I think it's just a little on the weak side.
My wife and I own a g19 and g23 respectively, we love them and they are reliable. However we keep the taurus g2c in the nightstand loaded with the safety on. Its just as reliable and accurate as our glocks at 200 bucks, which I would rather have the useless cops take instead of our 500 dollar glocks
Glock: hey you gotta load the mags "a certain way" if you want the gun to run reliable
KelTec: HEY! That's our thing!!
@@KingsCrossingTeachings I love my sub 2000, too
Maxim Ghost isn’t that the truth! Love that gun but not what I’d call great for reliability. Also never send it in for a repair going on 5 months and with everything shut down not sure when I’ll get it back. Pmr30 not the crap glock
@Maxim Ghost the pmr 30 has issues you can't get the mag loaded to cap and the rims hang up on one another.
"Load the mags a certain way" did KelTec patent that phrase?.
New headline. Man with Glock got shot while trying to protect himself because he failed to load his magazine the special way.
"CCI Mini-Mags are $8 a box." Yeah, remember the good old days of a few months ago. Those were the days...
I got 100 round boxes of mini mags from Cabela's just a few weeks ago for $8.99
👀
I came back here looking for those prices 😀
They're 8.99 at my local gun store. Even Academy.
$12 where im at
Maybe when they talk about using it as a "training" weapon, they actually mean training on failures and how to clear them? Therefore these failures are by design?
You might be onto something. I'm kinda laughing about how it has a slide release and a magazine follower as part of its design, but use of either one of them could affect the performance of the firearm.
No, that’s not how any of that works.
@@Veritas419 its how jokes work lol
I'm going to assume that was a sarcastic post, at least I hope it was 😜
Thanks for the laugh! 😂
I imagine the boardroom up at Taurus are all high-fiving each other after watching this video well done Taurus well done
Someone at Glock needs to be fired.
@Willie Wonka I've always had good luck from Taurus handguns. But when I've ordered spare mags from them or talked to their customer service, I've received horrible service from very unhelpful, very rude employees. I keep hearing Taurus is under new management and their customer service has improved. But I dealt with them just a year ago. I ordered 2 mags from them for a 22 pocket auto I had. It took multiple phone calls-many taking an hour to be answered, if at all. When someone did pick up the phone, they were extremely rude and extremely unhelpful. After several months of this crap, I told then I could have walked to Brazil and back by now and picked then up, they hung up on me. Finally, after over 10 months of this crap, I finally received my 2-overpriced magazines in the mail. I sold the pistol and have vowed to never get another Taurus. I'm not buying a gun from a company that has rude employes and take 10 months to deliver 2 mags or parts I need. Oh, and before that mess, I had bought a used Taurus 45 auto double action pistol. It had a weak magazine button spring. Taurus wanted to charge me $15 for that $2 spring. They said the spring was $7-postage was $8! I asked about the lifetime guarantee. They informed me I had to send the gun to them, on my $, for them to honor their warranty. I told the guy I wasn't paying that kind of money for postage to mail a gun to them so they could install a simple spring that I could do in 10 minutes or less. And I wasn't paying $15 for a spring that was pribably worth $2 and should be free under their lifetime warranty. They hung up on me that time too. I sold the gun to a buddy, cheap, as is. I remembered after I got that 22 why I sold that 45. I will not do business with a company that is rude, unhelpful and doesn't wasn't to honor their guarantee. Taurus- decent guns-but horrible service when you need customer support.
@Willie Wonka
Thanks for listening to my rant! Lol. I guess I had to let that out. Anyway, yeah, going to a local gunsmith would probably be a good idea if your Taurus needs work done on it. I've honestly had great luck overall with their guns over the years. When I was young and 1st married, my wife and I both had Taurus handguns. Me a 38 snub and a 92-9mm. Her, a 38 snub. I swore by them and highly recommended them to others. But after a couple of interactions with their CS, I really started having different thoughts about the company. I've had a lot of guns over the years. From cheap to not to cheap, and many in between. My current primary carry guns are a Glock 40 and an older model Rossi 38. Back before Taurus owned them. I'm far from a gun snob. I even own 4 Hi Points. And to be honest-Hi Point customer service is probably the best in the business. And Glock has treated me really good on my last couple interactions with them. I've had some friends tell me Berreta can be pretty unhelpful. I do judge a company a lot by their CS. Any gun can have a problem.How the company takes care of That problem and how they treat customers needing spare parts and magazines is very important to me. And I just don't like doing business with the companies that have crappy and unfriendly CS.
Taurus: lets sponsor that channel!!!! Any ammo he wants we will buy it for them!
J H Glock: we will execute you for making a bad gun! Shot him!.... what?! The Glock 44 wont fire!
Glock sure did a heck of a job selling taurus Tx22's!
The G44 is flawless, Tim (as long as you only load the magazines on the 3rd Tuesday of each month between noon and 12:08 while wearing a toga and doing a handstand). 😄
Good one!
This comment section doesn't deserve you.
Don’t forget that your local Priest must bless it, then you have to mix a little holy water with the cleaning oil. It also helps if a Witch Doctor cleans off any curses that might be on the pistol.
Don’t forget the blood of an 18 year old vixen
I honestly think that even if the Glock 44 was 100% reliable, it still pales in comparison with the TX22.
• The Glock 44 has a polymer slide, the TX22 has a machined aluminum slide.
• The Glock 44 holds 10+1 rounds, the TX22 holds 16+1.
• The Glock 44 *does not* come with a treaded barrel, the TX22 does.
The Glock 44 is in the mid-$300 range, the TX22 is in the mid-$200 range.
It really seems like Glock as a company didn't even try with the Glock 44.
@@jessehudson3377 and glock 44 extractors and slides are breaking....lol
Mine has a small hairline crack in the slide behind the extractor I’m not waiting for catastrophic failure mines going back now. Less than 100 rounds cci standard velocity. I bought it Day 1 but it’s still junk. Will be sold once I get it back
do notice best selling 22 guns have 10rds or less because gun law across the globe.
I'll take a Taurus even if I have to get the barrel exchange for free and pocket the other hundred and fifty to $200. Not to mention all the money I'm going to save not having to buy CCI ammo to shoot it. And I already have threads for that suppressor Glock Fanboys have to go spend another $200 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jessehudson3377 well 200,00 g44s, 5 bad guns. not bad. 100,000 TX22s, 20,000 bad barrels. hmmmmmm
Glock: load the magazine on a hard surface, don’t pull down to far on the magazine loading tabs, don’t use the slide stop release to load a round, don’t use federal bulk .22. Taurus: load and shoot. Taurus not only beat Glock in the .22 handgun genre, they did it for cheaper.
I would put my G2C 9 against the G19 any day it is more accurate and more reliable
SR22 same way. No thanks Glock.
Bought the G3 last week. Definitely a sweet shooter glad I sold the g19
@@TheAsheybabe89 The G3 does not shoot the same as a Glock 19. If you walk past that and are a "it shoots bullets" kinda person, then it's a damn good gun for the money. G2 to G3 the advancements are magnified despite the chamber flag deletion. I like my G3 but it doesn't have that smooth feel as a Glock 19 when the slide is coming back even taking it apart for KT trigger polishing every part of the gun within reason.
Glocks are like iPhones. Everyone has one, but hasn’t been innovative since it’s 1st gen.
This is the most professional video on CZcams. At least the 1000s of videos I've watched .
The op didn't use a negative word about the Glock. He demonstrated every single thing he spoke about. Leaving the viewer to make his own conclusion.
That folks, is how a professional dies things. Excellent
Thanks.
So a taurus is outperforming the "glock perfection propaganda machine" for almost half the cost🤔🤔🤔. Mr. Taurus is partying hard tonight...
My Taurus G2 has retired my 26 & 43
I am a national forest service volunteer , I clean and maintain the two ranges near my house ( clean the range , cut the grass , pick the trash including the shotgun hulls and about 3 5-gallon buckets of brass for me to reload every week ) for a year now , half of all malfunctions I see are Glocks , no Glock owner will admit it , but I spend 5-6 hours a week watching other people shoot the MAJORITY of all malfunctions are Glocks and HIGH END AR-15'S the cheap ar's generally run better , although half the malfunctions I see are steel cased ammo , i have ever seen a steel cased ammo shooter ever acknowledge a single malfunction in their life , despite the "1,000" rounds they have shot every week for three years without a malfunction.
Congratulations to Glock. You just boosted sales for the Taurus TX-22. Taurus could not have spent enough money to get all this free marketing as a result of your .22LR Glock 44 legendary offering.
Not generally a Taurus fan, but they beat Glock on this one.
Taurus is good. With Glock you're paying for the name. They give away their guns to militaries and cops and make their money on the public
@vettelover2009 Yeah Ruger was kinda my go-to when thinking about 22lr pistols, but Browning is a good option too. I like my Glocks, but they screwed the pooch on this one. I really like my Sig P365 too, but they made a mess of that release. I guess no company is immune
Glock really shot themselves in the foot with this one. Its like they didnt even do research and development.Should we test this design?"Hell no we are glock, WE ARE PERFECTION, send it out."
@@DinoNucci Ummm no. They don't give away their guns to militaries and police. Who told you that?
@@xenonram you're joking right, har har
4:14 "Glock has advertised this gun as being legendary, having fired ... 1.2 million rounds ... most tested .22 ever produced."
Most tested = marketing speak for "we had to keep doing a lot of testing, because we couldn't get the thing to work."
I’ve been telling colleagues for years, Taurus has been stepping up their game every year.
Moldy Burgers87 I wish Taurus up there game on G3 put some rmr cut on g3. I have a g2. So be getting the Tx 22 next month for wifey so she can enjoy shooting with me.
Ever since the pt111 g2 they've been very good.
But their customer service still really sucks! Just like always.
I love all 8 of my Taurus. I will continue to buy them. I also have the 44... and mine runs bulk ammo no issues.
But their QC sux big ones. My last Taurus was so poorly manufactured that I was sent a new pistol rather than repair the first one.
Glock: we can't make a reliable 15 round mag so we made an unreliable 10 round.
Taurus: smirks contently
Taurus: Hold my beer..
Different grip angle. Geometry is very real, especially with rimmed cartridges. The angle may just be inappropriate, and that's math.
@@tenchraven no issues with my Ruger sr22. Day after I bought her I put 550 rounds of blaser through her. No issues other than not being able to see the rifling. That was almost ten years ago. Seems like Glock isn't up to date on math.
@@itsmillertime90 I think what Kevin is saying is that Glock essentially makes the same gun for every caliber and the design doesn't work with 22. In order to make something good, they would've had to redesign it.
@@glent5659 I can't even. Have a good one
This whole your loading the magazines wrong reminds me of when apple said people were holding the phone wrong and it couldnt get signal because of that
Harvesting SE AK HAHA Exactly
@@FishFind3000 The phone wouldn't snap. The Galaxy Fold had screen issues from where the screen folds. It's also important to note that the "influencers" and tech reviewers that were having issues were all Apple shills. Like the dumb ass Markqeste Brownlee PEELING THE EFFING OUTER LAMINATION OFF of the screen. I chalk it up to a combination of new tech, released to early, no warning to not remove that outer lamination, and Apple reviewers consciously, or subconsciously, maliciously or not, wanting to break it.
@@xenonram Marquez isn't an apple shill. He uses a Mac for video editing but his phone is Android. And he explained that it was his mistake that he peeled it. But I don't blame him. That's a design flaw.... Never listen to people on the internet
yes that's exactly the feeling I get with brand's like Apple Tesla & Glock
@@xenonram seeing as samsung fixed the clear design flaw, that wasn't a fluke on reviewers part. it was a part of the display that looked far too much like a cheap screen protector and that was entirely samsungs fault for bad design
It’s a weird year when a Taurus beats a Glock, but here we are 🤷♂️
I love me some Glock, but they definitely dropped the ball with the G44.
I don't know... my outfit issues Blocks, gen 3, 4, and 5.
Recently A cash strapped friend asked me about Taurus' G2c. I didn't know so I bought one to wring out, prepared to hate it. I shot the snot out of it, and carried and shot it for 8 months.
Now I hate to be in the "Its just as good" crowd, but in this sample of 1....yeah, it's as reliable as my G19, as accurate as my G19...I don't know what more I could want in an entry level gun.
Didn’t last for long glock is back on top for sure
@@mytopicsopinions2840 , "Glock is back on top for sure"
With what, their explody .22 jamamatic, or their warmed over, bad triggered Roth-Browning from 1985?
Perfection? HA!
Time for a good flogging....
@1st Amendment , and maybe YOU should ask for a few details before squandering your cherished 1st Amendment right on cheap, presumptive, keyboard warrior lip?
"Flock" claimed it's .22s worked with dozens of loads. They don't. You don't need to take my word for it, there are plenty of reviews on CZcams, and even the Glock fanboys admit they suck.
Meanwhile I've seen a $10 Jennings .22 auto shooting Remington "Thunderbolts" that worked more reliably than some "Block" 44s using Mini-mags, Federal Auto Match, and Stingers in a vain attempt to make them reliable.
My Buckmark, Walther p-22, Taurus TP-22, Ruger SR22, and Ruger Mk II all run with whatever is on hand.
My kid sister's Sig Mosquito and Ruger Mk I, as well my buddy's Buckmark, Ruger 45/22, 70-year-old Hi Standard and Walther P22, AND my ex-wife's P22....ALL work with whatever we feed them. The only stoppages we have are from primer gaps or filthy guns.
Meanwhile another friend's Keltec PMR-30, a notoriously un-reliable make and model, actually works better that his Glock 44.
I'm very sorry about your complete lack of manners, and complete lack of capacity for critical thinking. Not too many people's momma raised them right these days, and mental disfunction and general ineptitude are no laughing matters. If it's any consolation, Congratulations on your sample of one ammo finicky, over priced, reliable if you pay enough to feed it, Glock 44. They are EXCELLENT pistols...for practicing malfunction remediation drills.
Blasphemous... Or should I say "BLAST-phemous"? I have a TX22, I think it would eat marbles. ZERO failures, no pampering or waiting for the planets to align... LOL!
Many thanks for the great videos.
watt hairston thanks for your comment! I just bought a TX22 online yesterday, so appreciate your reassurance!
@@eog5038
I bought a TX22 a couple months ago. I've only ran a couple hundred rounds through but, not one single malfunction yet. My wife has stolen it now, I have to buy another. I think you will be well satisfied.
"I'll take the Taurus." That feels so weird to say.
Same here. I think glock will come out with mags you cant rimlock load eventually.
I thought the same thing. Then I almost felt sick
I thought so too. Until I bought this one. Go figure.
I have both and they work equally well for me. 1000 rounds in each and zero problems with all kinds of ammo. Guess I’m lucky.
Becoming less weird these days, with the g2, then the g2c, now the g3. Always the revolvers and pt-92’s. I just bought a pt-92 AF-D over a barely used beretta m9 that was the same price. Losing my mind. Lol
Glock Engineers: "we've created a tough, reliable, legendary design".
American Consumers: "let me see that.......".
loki8284 our reply “LOL”
@@J1Z06 Yup! LOL!!
If Gaston Glock does not cheap out on building pistols he can't afford those $2M dressage horses for his child bride.
Glock is still the King of the 9mm. YW!!!
@@ottoskorzeny7984 what?
This video is why I just bought a Taurus TX22. Great job explaining what is going on.
Check out “battle of the seven most popular 22.lr handguns “ on CZcams
I wasn't a huge Taurus fan but I decided to check out the tx22, so i paid $250 (plus $20 transfer fee) for mine and I've had nothing but positive feed back from anyone who's shot it and I personally love it
Point of this video: Just buy that TX-22 twice.
thedefinitive I know right. But still he showed what Glock can do. You will die first before you can fire that pistol. Lol 😂 you have to loaded this way for Able to fire don’t over turn it it will not fire.
Machines don't care what name is etched on them, or what they cost! The Taurus works and that's all that matters. Good review Mac!
A gun designed for over 3 years should not require as many "tricks" to run as my 40 year old Ford pickup. Also, Federal ammo junk? Lol
Federal really does make some junk bulk 22lr ammo. They also make some really good 22lr ammo too though
@@randomergy683 i may be biased, i only shoot their centerfire ammo.
Lucky Gunner Ammo posted on their website the results of their testing many defense rounds. For .22LR, there are three top contenders, one of them being Federal Champion 40 gr, which had about the same penetration as two other top rounds (both of which were hollow tip). That Federal ammo actually outclassed a substantial number of other brands and types -- pretty impressive. So it's what I bought in advance of receiving my TX22 which I bought online yesterday.
When I buy a gun, I don't want to have to take extreme care when I load the magazine and I sure don't want to be limited on the ammo I can buy and feed into it.
How long until we start getting H&K-style excuses like "you're not German (in this case, Austrian) enough."
Or, "you're just not skilled enough to use this superior firearm."
Where have u heard that?
Alex Maurice r/Guns
@@alexmaurice4274 Nowhere. HK's reliability record is as good as anyone's and they aren't immune...just like everyone else. People like to hate on HK because of some shitty positions they have with the civilian market, but they very rarely put out turds. First and foremost, they know how to make a proper magazine which is the heart and soul of any auto-loading firearm.
It's a meme, boomers.
Also I (thank God) have never used reddit.
H&K isn't even that expensive. I've seen the newer glocks go for more than P30s regularly, and you don't see people dropping in upgrades on them out the box like glocks
Alot of "oh but you have too's" from people who can't accept that this model is substandard and not worth it.
Crewdog 93
True. If I’m going to lay down money on a Glock, I’m doing it for reliability. Period.
If it doesn’t do that, I’m not blindly such a Glock worshipper that I’d start justifying why they are still great.
Companies make mistakes, it happens. Glock needs to work out the bugs before I get the G44.
I’ll still keep buying more Glocks, I have 3.
I'm fine with the concept of finicky guns, _if_ that is made clear up front and you dont rely on a reputation of perfection.
for instance i Loooove cap and ball revolvers and they definitely require a bit of care to load, but most people know that at the gate so there isnt any need for deception.
That Taurus looks bad ass, wish they'd design a 9mm like that, would be tempted to and probably have to pick it up.
they did design a badass 9mm it's called the G3 for under 300.00
@@maxheadroom7649 TS9... Nice....
Thats what i was thinking
PSA dagger or cz p10c
New GX4
Just grabbed one while picking up my G3c. Got really excited when I saw it in the case. Can’t wait to get out with it!
Never had any of these issues with my S&W M&P 22 Compact and that came with a threaded barrel ... that Taurus is a shooter no doubt!
100% chance people will still say you’re being unfair to the G44.
Yep, fanboys gonna fan.
Fanboy powers.......activate!!
Im a glock fan lol so call boy... But i always liked taurus pistols regardless if ppl said there shit BUT I LIKED THEM! i bought the taurus tx22 over the glock 44 bc like this video the tx22 kills the glock 44 every way around u try to look at it. Shot 300 rounds from the tx22 1 problem and that was that 1 bullet so that tx22 is legit 100% reliable..😎👌
I object to his unfair way in which he handled the G44. You are supposed to hug kiss and coat the G44 in high quality CBD oil to get it in a good mood. Once the G44 gets in a good mood, then it’s reliable. Joke
Dom sugar I like Glocks, but Glock set the expectations way too high. They should have been honest in the advertising and say to only use high quality ammo.
Great , Great Great video...just bought this Glock today 06/03/2020 at my local dealer in Army Green, I felt some kinda bad until you offered hope on how to get it to fire properly...I have all the name brand .22s and have had no problem til I got the Smith &Wesson Victory who is also a picky eater and now this one....thanks so much for this review! I'm now one of your loyal subscribers!!!!
Its how you talk to the Glock and what kind of hand soap you use when you load the magazines. Never thought I'd see the day when Taurus built a better more reliable higher capacity gun than Glock.
Glock proper loading technique:
Look left then right, all while standing on your right leg only. Then stick your tongue out. After that whistle the Andy Griffith theme.
Now you can fire the gun.
David Wethington lol 😝
Great demonstration and video. Long time fan of 22 LR. My most comparable is the Ruger SR22. Has been extremely reliable with over 2000 rounds of various and mostly bulk ammo. I will now pick up a TX 22 to add to my collection. Thanks for this review.
They should market this gun and ammo combo as “malfunction clearance trainer”. With a lifetime guarantee to fail.
BAaaaahahahahaha!
Lol
If you need to reload gun in ""specific way"" you can "specifically " throw it to a bin....
Unless its some rare/old gun... then its normal. But new.... get rid of it...
Seems Glock fixed the issue with their pistols being reliable.
Love it!
Ha ha ha!!!
@Joe Walling Must have some pretty big balls to say something like that.
Don’t worry they will soon roll out an “update” because none of their guns ever have recalls. Glock perfection ya know...
Pretty sure I just creeped out the neighbors with my laugh, ROFL.
The G44 reminds me of the Sig Mosquito that I bought and promptly traded back in. I have several perfectly functioning .22 handguns so I know it's possible and don't doubt the TX-22 is good. One that I have that has been absolutely perfect, that I don't hear about often, is the S&W M&P .22 Compact. Mine has suppressor height sights and threaded barrel from the factory and shoots great. Would love to see how it compares to the G44. Sadly, it is also restricted to 10rd magazines, but it works great.
I too have the Glock 44. Granted, I only have 900 rounds through the gun, but it has ran without fail. I am not a torture tester, I shoot a couple hundred rounds, clean it, then it goes back to the safe - like most folks. However, I can not fault a gun that has run perfect on several ammo brands and bullet weights. Like they say, to each their own. Best regards.
I'm starting this off by stating that I'm not a Glock fan. I don't think they make bad guns, I just don't care for them.
Okay now that that's out of the way if a gun, especially a .22, takes that much care to load. Is that picky on ammo. Takes different training to use, having to slingshot versus using the slide release ( I'm with MAC, if it wasn't meant to be used as a release then they would NOT have textured the top surface). I totally get the part about making sure that you don't get rim lock in loading the mags. Plus it costs more. All that adds up to a no go for me.
For. 22 handgun fun I currently shoot a Smith and Wesson 22A-1 Victory for the record.
As a Kel tec PMR 30 owner I am laughing on the inside. Glock fan peeps call the PMR 30 a POS it is ammo picky and you have to be careful about loading the magazines. Yet Glock zombies always defend anything with the Glock logo. Why I do not shoot Glocks never have and never will. I do own several Taurus handguns yet mine are junk to Glock zombies
Tim Allen those Victories look sharp, how has that pistol held up? Is it accurate? Reliable?
It didn't run the Federal 36gr no matter how you loaded the mag. If it doesn't run on a commonly available ammo type from a reputable manufacturer, that other pistols have no issue with I'd say that makes "picky".
@@adamarens3520 mine is very accurate as long as I do my part. I don't shoot compilations are anything but mine is very reliable and is holding up well for me. I clean it regularly and keep it well lubed. I bought it used so I don't know how many rounds it has through it.
Adam Arens mine has been fantastic and the weight is perfect
So in other words, buy a Taurus TX22! 😁
shojus same conclusion I came to
Taurus: Glock, thank you for releasing the G44! We are getting so much free advertisement!!!!
I picked one up earlier today along with a box of Agulia 40grain. When I got back me and my buddy ran around 100 rds through it without an issue. After that I took it up to my parent's house and me and my dad ran probably 50 rds through it, again just fine. When my sister got there me and her went out to shoot it again and we both shot a full mag. She had one FTF with a light strike but other than that it ran flawlessly. All I have ran through it so far is the Agulia, and I only bought those because the two cheapest 500rd boxes were them and the Remington Thunderbolts and I know Thunderbolts are crap ammo. I hadn't read anything about the G44's prefrence for heavier bullets until after I made my purchase. Tomorrow I'll try to run some lighter weight bulk Federals through it and see how they do.
Great side by side comparison! Thank you!
For best results loading your glock 44 mags is to stand on one leg while rubbing your stomach and patting your head .
It looks like Glock has made an “affordable” malfunction trainer...GENIUS! #Perfection
timdonahoo I won’t even buy it for a dollar 💵.
Lilac Tortoise A planet where quotation marks around a word in this context can be read as sarcasm.
Lilac Tortoise you didn’t understand what he meant he was being sarcastic lol 😂
Excellent review on both! Thank you.
Love my Taurus Tx22. Not happy with their decision to stop making 16 round mags and switching to 15 and 10's only without any explanation. The 16's are no longer available from Taurus but can be found in retail stores like Academy for the time being. While 1 round isn't a deal breaker, it is a strange "update" to an already functioning firearm. Nice vid, happy shooting.
I feel like if it "works reliably " you shouldn't have to be that particular with it, there shouldn't be a 7 step scientific method to loading. I have never thought about how I load my 19, 43 or xds I just load them and shoot.
Is the new .22 cal saying now will be "does it take Taurus TX-22 mags?"
We need this on every new Glock video.
ratagris21 let’s hope
I love my Taurus. It is a blast to shoot and just eats up any ammo I run. I mostly buy cheap bulk 22 and never have a problem with the gun itself. Out of about 700 rounds I have had 3 failure to fires, that I think that is more just because its 22lr and not the gun itself.
I just purchased a TX22 and had a 3 or 4 failure to feed issues on the 200 rounds I put through it on first day. The rounds were hanging up in n the magazine. I traded in a p22 on the tx22 because the Walther had issues for many years and never improved. I loved the look and feel of the Walther over the Taurus, but function is 100% the most important thing to me. Going to take the mags of the TX22 apart and clean them as many people have stated this fixed their issue. Have two other Taurus guns and they shoot everything and never malfunction. I believe the TX will be a great gun when I get the magazines working properly.
When you have to release specific loading techniques to provide best function.....you know you haven't produced a reliable system. Glock, get it together.
"Load and shoot." lol. I've been shooting my Colt Huntsman and Woodsman with "junk" bulk ammo for decades. Other than the occasional rimfire primer click-no-bang, no issues at all. C'mon, Glock! FFS, it's a .22 pistol! How hard can this be? smh.
BTW, it'd be hard to believe that Glock, with all their claims of testing multiple brands of ammunition, didn't test Federal. I mean, seriously? Good grief.
I think there's a big gap between the marketing hype of the G44 and the actual pistol they put into customers hands. Clearly the gun isn't "legendary" if the standard for such status is extremely reliability, ease of use and compatibility with a wide variety of ammo. Like you said, Colt nailed it decades ago, as did Ruger... and others. Taurus nailed it more recently and did so for $100 less while providing 16 round mags and a threaded barrel for that price. There's nothing legendary about the G44 other than it's just another Glock, and more fickle than its centerfire counterparts in my experience.
I‘m nit sure how popular federal is in Europe
Junk ammo has no problem operating a recoil spring from a bic pen.
@@borkwoof696 CCI, Fiocci,RWS and Lapua are very popular in the shooting clubs (one has to be a member) Federal is not unheard of and is gaining popularity with plinkers.
Stargazer is right. Most common in my club (bavaria, germany) is cci blazer. Federal isnt common, but i see the bulk packs around.
I haven’t had one failure on mine, federal bulk pack.
500 rounds so far.
I’m loving my Glock 44
Same
Just subscribed, excellent video. As a NRA Certified Pistol Instructor, I usually start my students with a .22 to get their shooting form right without worrying about the recoil. I bought the G44 thinking it would be an easy trainer to go from to a 9mm. I had a totally different experience than you have with your gun. I threw the rounds into the magazine, shot all kinds of ammo from mini mags to blazer brass, some really crap ammo and had no problems. I must give a caveat, however, I shot no 36 grain. All I shot was 38 grain and higher. It shot CCI standard velocity with no problem and functioned flawlessly with ammo I had. In 1200 rounds I had only one failure and I believe it was due to ammunition failure. I think perhaps the functionality varies from gun to gun and Glock should have continued testing and tweaking this gun before bringing it out. By the way, I am not a Glock fanboy, I have several kinds of pistols including S&W, Ruger, Sig, and Taurus. Thanks for the video!
Been looking for a 22 semi auto to teach my girls, I believe I'm getting a Taurus today, thanks Tim!
Get a sr22, it's a compact gun, ideal for that purpose. And it works reliably, not like the glock 44 ;-)
If Taurus can beat any more expensive gun in its category, there might be a problem with the other gun. Either way, I'm sticking to my ruger standard.
Thank you for the great testing. I really like the tx22 it looks more comfortable in the hand , however the problems reported may be improper mag loading , nice to know .
Awesome video! I cancelled my Glock 44 order back in Jan. and purchased a Taurus tx 22 in May. You just confirmed my research. I think I made a wise move! Thanks again!
I'd absolutely take the Taurus over the Glock. I've already got a Ruger SR22 that works great, but you're really making me want the TX22 as well.
The TX 22 is a amazing little pistol and it's very accurate I'm able to hit a 2 inch steel popper at 20 yards very consistently with Winchester white box
I’d go out on a limb and say the G44 is still marginally better than the SR22 I had. What a turd.
I bought a SR22 for my wife and son, runs great as long as the ammo is over 1100fps. That being said the Taurus might end up under the Christmas tree next year.
Get it you won’t regret it... and the extra rounds are a plus
I never thought I would see the day a Taurus beats a Glock on reliability. I guess now the new catch phrase will be'"Does It Take Taurus Mags?" LOL.
Stormy Fourwolves44 lol
Soooo glad I got the TX22… Was planning to get it in October but my local gun shop just had a FDE, the exact same one as Tim’s for $250! Jumped on it immediately cause the green one is $320, G44 was $380. Couldn’t be happier and this video confirmed I made the right choice.
Taurus TX 22 is my first Taurus purchase. If it can talk it says "FEED ME". So much funner to shoot something with no fuss about how to load a mag or how to "sling shot first round" or preferred ammo. Thx for the revisit Tim. Just confirms I chose well!!!
Did you ever imagine a scenario in which a Taurus out performs a Glock and is a better value? xD
What a time to be alive.
Taurus Perfection
@Phix Even without the G44, Glock was headed in this direction. Each generation past 3 was just an inconsequential tweak to keep the product line up looking fresh. Smith and Wesson and Sig are hounding them boasting pistols that aim to give the same or better out of the box rather than rely on the aftermarket to do everything.
I doubt people buy that gun for value. They will choose not to buy Taurus because gun law 10 rds limitation or they need trainer for their glock.
They've always been a better value. Almost all handguns are Glocks cost $70 to produce and SHOULD cost $200 ...but they're triple that, and to that fact that they haven't put in any development of the gun since the 80's ....there is nothing "value" about any of that.
Glock fanbois get really upset when you don't get a woody over every Glock. I have a Ruger Mk1 I bought twenty years ago that will shoot any .22 ammo I run through it. IIFRC, I paid $100 used for it back then. I rarely ever clean it, just spray some brake cleaner through it and a few drops of oil after that.
My Mark 1 has been completely reliable from day 1, the mark 2 government model I owned was crap, looked great but wouldn’t function with anything but mini mag solids. I bought a gen 4 G19 that I had to replace the extractor to get to work and was called a liar when I complained about it’s inability to fire a full mag without a jam. It seems like you can’t criticize Glock for anything or you are immediately criticized.
I was going to post the same. My MKII has the heavy barrel I had cut and threaded and with or without a can it eats just about anything. Take-down was a bit of a bitch before I retrofitted it and now it’s a non issue.
@@j.williams560 I have a MKII that I bought in 1987. It also eats ANY ammo. My only complaint is the 10 rd mag limit and the pain in the buttocks of field stripping. Other than that I feel it is nearly perfect.
Eric H I highly recommend the hammer strut support for the ruger mk pistols. Search them here on CZcams. Best $20 you'll ever spend on them.
Richard Sveum, I have a mk2 target (1989) that will only run 40gr hi velocity. Anything slower or lighter won’t make it through a mag without at least 1 malfunction. But I love that gun because it’s the first gun I ever fired.
The sweet sewing machine smoothness sound of the TX22 going rapidly through magazines of the most common bulk ammo available.
Good to have another honest critical review of the G44 revisited again to dispell perceived bias and possible user induced issues.
Thanks for such a great and truly an unbiased review Sir! I was going to give the G44 to my wife as a CCW but I tried it at the range first. I looked like a fool who could not load ammo properly. No matter how carefully I loaded the ammo it would fail almost on every magazine. I didn't know that the Glock 44 had magazine and other issues. This gun should really be recalled. Shocked that Glock allows one of their products to be this bad. Thanks again for helping people like me! For the 22LR I'll have to look for a new firearm for my wife and the Taurus looks great🙏
I know this comment is old but I love my tx22. My 9 year old son shoots it and can actually hit the target. Very light and shootable gun
I’ve got a S&W m&P 22 pistol that I absolutely love. Every time I go to the range to shoot any other gun, I always shoot several magazines of 22 just for fun. I’ve never had a problem with the Smith and Wesson and I’ve tried about four or five different brands of ammo and weight. No problems at all
Travis Williams I’ve got the m&p 22 with around 3,000 rounds on it and never any malfunctions. I ran around 200 rounds of Federal last weekend as fast as I could pull the trigger and reload my 4 mags just to see if it would malfunction which it didn’t.
Shooter: *uses gloves*
Glock: "Finally, a worthy opponent..."
I have a Taurus TX 22 and even with one in the chamber, 17 rds total, 100% function rate with bulk back ammo under $20.00 per 555 rds. The only issue is a factory issue when the primer is not distributed properly in the rim and will not fire. Most of the times if you turn the round 180 degrees it will fire.
I own two of the TX22's. Both are equally reliable and a ton of fun. Just got the Kel Tec P17 and so far it's a reliable gun too.
Mac: So what we are going to do today is check to see if This brand new Handgun is the problem or this ammunition that's been sold for a 100 years non-stop with billions of rounds fired every year by millions of people without issue.....
*cough* glock sucks *cough*
Justin Bellio while I’m hesitant to purchase the 44, .22 ammo is NOT inherently without issues. I have been a firearms instructor since the late 1980’s and teach many classes every year. When people show up with .22s for class I cringe because the ammo itself is inherently unreliable. It’s simply the design of the rim fire cartridge and it’s primer system. It’s also a very dirty cartridge and most people don’t clean them. I have numerous.22 weapons and all of them have issues from time to time, mainly due to the ammo. But if you clean them properly and use good 40 grain ammo such as mini mags you’ll have fewer problems.
Yeah, .22 LR has not been without issue. .22 LR is the most unreliable ammo in production.
I don't think Glocks sucks, they are still everywhere, this one model of Glock sucks.
Mac is definitely the most like reliable and honest and best reviews. Thank u for these videos!
David DeVito I don’t even know why he makes videos.
I own the TX22 and it’s absolutely the best 22 handgun I’ve ever shot. Extremely reliable, near perfect ergonomics and trigger, and 16 round mags. Taurus built this as a brand new gun from the ground up, and I’m really hoping they make a 9mm version of it someday.
Tim, it’s too bad that you felt the necessity of making this follow up video. Your first video was not only fair, it was comprehensive, and has become the G44 video to which the other reviewers must compare.
I would like to think of this an adjunct video regarding the additional “tricks” to make the Glock more reliable. But it still cannot eat cheap, fun Federal bulk pack ammo, even if you stand on your head and chew gum while loading the Glock mags. I’m glad to see that it can work with the Remington bulk ammo (which, in my experience, is not nearly as bad as people say), but you should not have to do all that you did to get it to work.
Thank you for your comprehensive first video, and this second video, although it was not necessary because the first video was very fair. I also feel that the Taurus TX-22 is a much better gun, and a much better choice.
Thanks man. In social media we take an endless beating over our opinions. Some think that we like or enjoy making videos showing problems. I don't. It creates more work for me and it causes a lot of people to tune out because they don't want to hear there's a problem with their favorite gun or product from their favorite manufacturer. You get blasted endlessly and accused of insanely stupid things like staging the problems. I would rather do all sunshine and rainbow videos, but I can't. I have to show my actual experiences as that's our brand and it has been for 12 years. Thanks for the post and for watching.
I'm buying a TX-22. I'm not a Taurus guy, but, from what I've seen, it's pound-for-pound one of the most reliable .22 pistols I've seen in a long time
I'm kind of a Ruger Fanboy and actually dislike Taurus in general. I definitely prefer the Ruger MK series of 22s, but the larger magazine capacity with the Taurus is tempting. Gotta give credit where credit is due. Taurus has probably made the best 22lr handgun available right now for the price. I still think that the MK4 is the better gun, but the TX22 is dangerously close, especially when considering price.
Oh yeah, I'm really liking the MK4, and like the MK series in general. I have a 22/45 back home, and it's a sweet shooter. I usually avoid Taurus as well lol until recently, I've never considered getting one.
I think it's funny that the gun that brought Glock to its knees is a MF .22lr 😂
Great informational video! I have been on the fence about which '22 Handgun' I was going to buy. I have watched other videos testing different 22s and they all have similar results. There are some good 22 pistols on the market but the Taurus TX-22 seems to be a very good choice. I know it sounds weird to say but I will be choosing the Taurus over the Glock!
Just took my Glock 44 out for the first time and it did great. I put maybe 6 different types of ammo through it and had I think 2 failure to feeds and one light strike. Surprisingly, Golden Bullet ran flawlessly. Blazer ran fine. CCI mini mag and stinger was great. I did notice that the pro mag 18 round mags were tough to load and functioned better when I put 12 or 13 rounds in them. I am super happy with it and it's fun as hell and cheaper to shoot than my p10c.
6:12 "i also took my gloves off, maybe its causing the problem." Well how about taking off your jacket, headset and oakleys huh? Unconvinced with the test!
LMFAO
I think they were referring to the glove drag on the slide
@@evilke-kneebone8025 I understand the joke but there's actual facts behind glove drag that's why when the dude in the video talked about taking off his gloves it's was to make sure but I'm sure your an operator high speed shooter
@@evilke-kneebone8025 if you had any sense you would choose a different Avatar cause to me you look and sound like a moron
@@evilke-kneebone8025 both of you are giving me cancer.
These Glock remedies sure sound like homeopathic medicine to me.
Pigeon religion
Rub in circles. Not linearly. Circles. Rub the cream in 14 times a day and take these supplements 7 times a day with food. Rv⅝g Then, it might work. No guarantees. Though...
It sounds like it needs to be thrown in the trash
Terrific job of presenting the facts in a scientific manner! You did a great job of making a fair comparison of both the guns and the ammunition...a lot of good information here! I think I can use what I learned here today to help me with my "picky eater".
Thank you for your review. I was never a fan of Taurus firearms but bought a TX22 yesterday.
"mis stack in the magazine" all I hear is design flaw.
Rondel Mercer yeah every other gun maker can make a 10 round .22 mag that works. I can load my browning buck mark mags upside down blindfolded in the dark and it will shoot all day
@@beardoggin8963 even pheonix figured it out
The advantage arms glock 22lr mags already fixed the rimlock and loading issuse and if you own a 17 or 19 your only cost is $200 for their kit
Scott DPugnificent the aftermarket has always made better Glock parts than Glock lol
@@beardoggin8963 well obviously, the aftermarket actually has to have quality to back up the price tag
Thanks for making this video, this is the comparison I've been wanting to see the most. I like the way the TX22 looks, unlike the rest of their striker-fired pistols.
Super great vid, keep up the good work
great video thanks !!!!!! going down to buy a taurus today .... i love videos like this no nonsense just the facts .....
I like how Taurus has really stepped up their game in the last few years while a lot of these other “name brand” companies have gotten complacent and are starting to lag behind
It's nice. But years of sub par quality at best has them in a position that even though they are making good gear no one wants it because of their history. I'm at a point where the guns I really want are expensive and I have to save longer to get them. I'm past the point of wanting quantity and wanting quality.
@@bmstylee In the world of polymer handguns glock is more money for the same quality as can be found in competing pistols.
Wild Bill I work at a gun store, and we sell a lot of G2C, G3, and TH9 pistols. While I do agree that most people who know about guns stray away from Taurus, the vast majority of first time gun owners that buy a Taurus tend to have pretty good experiences. I personally have a G2C with close to 2000 rounds through it and it’s never malfunctioned ... even once. And I’ve used all different kinds of ammo from aluminum to +P brass to steel case. I think Taurus is trying to turn things around, but only time will tell if they can maintain their current success
Taurus For The Win Over Glock! Never Thought I'd Ever Being Saying That. Great Job Taurus!
mp15a imagine a TX9? It has to happen. I love my TX22.
I have had a Taurus tx 22 for months now run it on a Sig 22 suppressor love it almost no malfunctions super good gun picked up ruger lcp2 in 22lr today put 250 rounds no problems only one light strike took it out ran it thru and fired fine.. also the lcp holds 10+1
Moral of this comparison is "The expensive gun is not always the best gun" I'm getting the Taurus TX 22.
rgbigdog good choice
Reliability wise, this kind of reminds me of the release of the Sig Mosquito.
Guns and Gadgets did a glock 44 vid yesterday. Scarcely got thru a mag without FTE and/or FTF. The pistol is junk.
I'm not making excuses at all,I'm not. If you noticed Jarod was the only one who had issues in that video. The other guy didnt. Even in a .22, "limp wristing" the pistol will cause the strove pipes he was having. Even on a .22.
But,I still think this pistol has some issues unknown by the company. Personally,I dont see a point in having a .22 other than for my kids to shoot. And in that case it would almost be a benefit having the malfunctions so they can learn to work thru and fix them.
Every manufacturer has issues from time to time. I'm sure it will be figured out over time. It's another valuable lesson as to why you should never by a first gen firearm.
And it could just be one of those pistols that like "this" ammo. Who knows. Hopefully they get it fixed before someone gets killed because if a malfunction in a SD situation.
@@FreedomInc MAC had the same issues. It's a consistent problem.
Great video as always Tim. Don't pay any attention to those that want to criticize you for your opinions in your reviews at least we know you are giving an honest opinion.
Really appreciate your work as I’m researching purchasing a .22 trainer for my wife and boys.
Zero dislikes so far, Glock fans must not be awake yet!
Im up but the truth is the truth. This gun is a lemon...
@@jimhopper2246 I have a lot of friends that are making all kinds of excuses for it, saying that Glock would never put out an unreliable gun. I don't dislike glocks, but all companies put out a lemon every once in a while.
Glock fans probably hate the G44 the most
bryan lavoie I’m a Glock fan and I really wanted a 19-sized .22lr, but unfortunately it looks like this gun is not worth the price