The Curious Case Of Paul Pogba
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Paul Pogba is one of most confusing footballers out there. Genuinely one of the best players on the planet in flashes, but absolutely nowhere to be found more often than not.
Like everything in life, the reasons for this are not so black and white. So, today, we're going to be diving into the curious case of Paul Pogba.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:38 - Early Beginnings
03:36 - Paul Pogba vs Sir Alex Ferguson
05:24 - Juventus: The Start Of Greatness
07:19 - Manchester United: Pogback
09:02 - Paul Pogba vs Jose Mourinho
11:08 - Where to from here?
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I think what sums Pogba up most was his goal for France against Switzerland in the Euros. Brilliant strike showing how good he can be, followed by attempting 5 different celebration routines as the Swiss ran straight back up the pitch and scored immediately.
Hit the nail on the head there mate
The voice, the knowledge AND the looks. This Football Iconic dude has it all!
Agree i like it
Iconic in the name certainly does justice.
Thanks, but there's NothingToSeeHere.
And we all read your comment, in his voice. 😂
alot younger than i expected. i thought he’d be a 60 year old man with a huge grey beard since he knows alot about football from past eras, lol. excellent content young man!
I could see Pogba having a complete renaissance in his 30s. I can’t remember who it was but I heard an ex-pro talk about how they’d never really trained too hard throughout their 20s, sort of took everything for granted and coasted off their ability and just enjoyed the life, then when they hit 30 they realised it would all come to an end soon and they didn’t want to leave themselves with questions of what might have been so they knuckled down and worked harder then they ever had and enjoyed more success than they ever had, could see Pogba going down a similar road hopefully because the talent he has is undeniable
Problem is Pogba trains hard, doesn't drink, Smoke or go Clubbing. Yet people expect him to do what nobody else in the history of football has done. Dude has never played with world class players in their prime besides De gea at Manchester United and has been used as a Utility man instead because of all the holes the team has
That won't happen with Pogba. Way too laid back. Is quick to blame other factors than take responsibility. If he goes to PSG, it's going to be hilarious watching him, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe leave all the donkey work to the rest of the team. It'll be unsustainable and he'll be the first to be dropped because his stats have never been stellar. Primarily because he just doesn't have 90 minutes in him. Always fades in games. I'll be glad when he leaves because nothing encapsulates the Woodward era more than Pogba. All fancy flicks, no commitment. Not good enough off the ball to be a quality midfielder. Not aggressive, hungry or clinical enough to be a quality wide/attacking player.
Pogba played double pivot in France with Matuidi in LAM and kante on his right. That is why it worked there.
Pogba can't force himself to play a real CDM role and I don't fault him for it. I'm sure he feels like he is slowly being drowned while playing in that position.
@@Twoyutes74 Exactly, when you have a player with that ability, you only play them in defensive positions when you have to ala France for a maximum of 7 games a tournament due to it being a "Knockout" competition which requires more caution. However people don't want to understand context, over the course of the season PP should be way more advanced no questions
@@femz6438 ah here. What a way to twist reality. The guy played a deep role at the weekend because two of our deeper midfielders were out and Rangnick wanted to rest Matic. Pogba has played utter shite wherever he has played. Play him more advanced, he's no better. He has played far more games in an advanced role so it's bogus to blame his poor form for United on playing deep. What is his position? Because he has played in an advanced left midfield role and he should be charged with negligence for the way he would leave Shaw exposed in the past. In that position he's a liability. It might go unpunished in Serie A or for France but the EPL is different. He's one of the worst players at the club off-the-ball. Doesn't track back. Certainly not fast enough. Guilty of taking too many touches when he does come back, capable of needlessly giving away possession. Reckless when it comes to tackling, like a giraffe on ice. All at 29. Plays like he's still 19.
Man, even if the team is actual trash, i want him back at Juve. He was just that iconic.
Juve have potential. Just get Pogba,a new winger,left back and center back(with some depth) and they would be really scary. The midfield already kind off resembles the 2015 one with locatelli playing the role of Pirlo and zakaria being Vidal. Just add Pogba again and it's all set lol
Myth
The only reason I wouldn't take Pogba back is his injury record, our medical staff is useless so the last thing we need is an injury prone player, Pogba is the exact type of player we need right now, but with his recent injuries I see another Ramsey fiasco incoming,
I doubt Juve go for him, they can't afford his wages. Juve is rebuilding with youth, but I think do have a place for a mentally strong veteran or two. Unfortunately 'mentally strong' is not how you would describe Paul Pogba's United stint.
Juve is rebuilding. They're stacked on striking roles with Vlahovic, Dybala and injured Chiesa, and very good defense, they only need a more organic midfield. If they manage to profit from Dybala or De Ligt who are going away most likely anyways, they may could take Pogba in expire. Then you would have Pogba, Locatelli and maybe Zakaria on the defensive, they would only need a very good fullback and new faces for substituting Chiellini and Bonucci, and you have a team that could win Serie A with no problems
He should have never left Juventus that was the best place for him
Probably the right answer
I'm happy he left
Yes.. Same with Lukaku.. should've stayed at Inter
@@thealchemist6355 are you a Juventus fan?
@@cyberpokey big facts the English league is not for everybody even English players are now figuring it out and they're leaving to Germany and other leagues
Pogba in a French shirt is in my opinion one of the best midfielders in the world. The passing of Kroos, dribbling of Modric and physicality of Casemiro in one player
I agree
Big comment 👏🏾
The defending of Ozil
@@maximusorbis2548 more like defensive work rate. He can defend but just doesn't need to 🇫🇷 Kante unlocks Pogba 🤷♂️
@@joesifa5235 he does not defend well with United and the guy above is massively overrating pogba even at France. Great player, but if pogba had all of those attributes he would be the greatest player in history
Considering that even Benzema still shine as 34 years old at Real, Pogba still has a chance to shine too, as long as his next decision/club is the one that right for him
Modric comes to mind as well 😁
Benzema has much better conditioning Pogba can't stay fit for more than 5 games at the minute.
He's already shining hard in the national team. For a few years now
Only a few exceptional one can perform at highest level for that age, pogba is not known for work rate. He will fail miserably.
I guess Pogba is content with this life. He is a multi millionaire with a beautiful model life. He has great cars and houses. I think getting paid enormous amount every week that most people can dream of earning in a year or 2 years (in developed countries) has made mediocrity creep up on him.
Playing in the Juventus team and manutd is in itself the biggest difference. In my opinion pogba had all the qualities of an attacking midfielder, playmaker but he was never a holding midfielder. The problem with United is that they are still living in the past. They are still trying to replace Ronaldo Rooney and Sir Alex Ferguson, and not looking for anything new. Mourinho tried to change it, and he found success with a domestic and a European trophy. But it was short lived
Pogba is one of the most players with the most I reached potential ever and I don’t think it’s necessarily his fault. He plays great for France because like he mentioned in the video he has a destroyer in the midfield that allows him to do whatever he wants while United has never surrounded him with other proper midfielders or even defenders for that matter.
Kante is an all round player. He's miles ahead of Pogba while Pogba is an attention seeking player...
@@stnbch3025 Kante is miles better I never said that but playing with Kante gives pogba the ability to play how he wants to cus he knows he has Kante behind him to get the ball back and bring it back up.
when he played cam with herrera and prime matic behind him he was not surrounded with proper midfielders huh, herrera a guy who pockets prime hazard like he is nothing and I will not even talk about matic, while mctominay and free are horrible I will not accept them as a excuse for why pogba is horrible
It is his fault
Chasing money over football with Raiola
He's a detriment to any team that doesn't have arguably the two best and most hard working midfielders around him because he doesn't know or try to defend. That's not a situational problem if the only place Pogba flourishes is when he's surrounded by world class talents who do the dirty work for him, that's a huge problem and makes him unplayable without the entire team being built around him. He's just been without the talent around him to do the work for him at United.
I see Pogba as another Aubameyang: a useful and talented player ground down by being in absolutely the wrong place. A transfer to a club that knows how to use him could reinvigorate his career, and could maybe even be a win-win. (Of course, United are probably a little more dysfunctional than Arsenal at the moment, which is both strange and ... well, funny).
Arsenal were just fine before Aubameyang left. They gave tough fight to both City and Liverpool, him at Barca is not a success story yet and Arsenal is much better without him. Aubameyang and Pogba are at wrong place is pure excuse for there unprofessionalism and laziness.
@@Dipesh1234 what about bvb, auba was so good there
@@lowekycodm He was unprofessional there too. Both him and Dembele went on strike for there transfers. Rafael Varane returned as per schedule attended training till last date even when it was certain he was going to leave Infact Varane is an example of good player in bad place(beside Maguire) not Pogba and Auba.
@@Dipesh1234 can't belive u said maguire lol he's so bad
@@Dipesh1234 arsenal is miles behind liverpool and city aubameyang was horrible in the last 3 seasons but now he is amazing at barca but well see its good that he finally got a chance lets be real the arsenal invincibles are a team long gone
Dude you elaborate your story quite interestingly and captivating too. Thanks man, your channel is the best
As always; good measured insight and very good points. LOVE your videos and can NOT wait for your take on the BIG ONE this Sunday (Sorry that the game does not involve Man U) Much love as always
Luxury player who fits best in a three man midfield where the other two are engine type players. As said in the video, he was wonderful at Juventus where he would usually play alongside Marchisio and Vidal who were both top level box-to-box midfielders as the time.
If you put Pogba in a 3 man midfield today with say..... Brozovic and Kante he would be great because their presence would allow him to do more of what he's good at and less of what he's not.
So he should come to chelsea
Luxury player is such a cynical term. So should the midfield be just three Vidals?
Was Iniesta a luxury player? He needed to be flanked by Busquets and Xavi. The midfield is a balancing act whether you are two or three. Kroos Modric and Casemiro come to mind. Pogba's not a luxury player, Man Utd just spent £100 million or however much it was on a number 8 and decided to try to use him like Ji Sung Park.
Camavinga, Tchouameni, Pogba. The youngsters running and defensive work rate would make up for his, his passing could connect the attack. He should switch agent so Perez will sign him!
Xavi was considering signing Pogba. He is a great talent, hopefully he can realise that talent in a stable club under a great manager.
Barcelona, stable?! 😂😂😂
Barcelona is the furthest thing from stable, looks like you haven't paid attention in the last 5 years
Barca fans are hilarious barely even finished a season he's already a great manager. Calm tf down
Another banger video. The narration and articulation has always been top tier.
Glad for the face reveal to go with the voice man. Looking forward to more great content mate.
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The problem for pog at united is a positional one… he’s best suited to being the most offensive of a 3 but has most often played as part of the double pivot… the only reason he’s expected to play deep is because physically he’s strong but realistically he’s not one for defensive duties
He's world class at France, and he was world class at Juve. All of a sudden at Man Utd he's "lazy" and "a bad player", makes you wonder what the real problem is 🤔
United is the problem. Just to sign a manager it is taking ages.
United is a place that kills careers cause of bad club management. Pogba is lazy but even if he played at his best each game it doesn’t help nor motivate someone to know that you have Maguire in the back and Rashford up front compared to kimpembe and mbappe. United didn’t properly build around their stars as usual and wasted him
Exactly. I wouldn’t be surprised if he really bounced back at another club. He seems weighed down at United
Far from me to defend Man Utd as a club, but in juve and france he always had/has amazing players beside in in midfield (Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio, Kante, Matuidi)
@DMo86 United has not given him the right resources mate...
And what is this "English game" thing supposed to mean? How many midfielders switched from other leagues into the EPL did just fine? Adding to that Pogba's physicality, I'd put 95% of the blame on United
dude its so good to see your face - love your channel man, keep up the great work!
Loved the new format. Please keep this going !
I know you typically cover the best of the best on this channel, but would you be opposed to doing more of a deep dive into Derby County's atrocious 2007/08 season at some point? I can only speak for myself here, but I think that would be a really interesting one.
Also, a belated congratulations on hitting 100,000 subs. You deserve it!
You got to ask yourself what is Pogba doing here?
Another haircut 🙄
@@FootballIconic And a billion dabs per capita times dollars.
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I wanna say your videos are like introduction to different things and sometimes more, but you had absolutely more inside your head, i wanna thank you again
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Try slowing the video down to .75!
@@danielshaw9979 i prefer to listen like that because may be easy in the future
The thing about Pogba to me is that he is the ultimate example of how Manchester United sucks the life out of their players. Why is it that he is so good for France, yet so underwhelming for United?
It would really be interesting to see where he would go this summer. I personally don't think PSG is going to be any different from man utd, if nothing changes, the likes of messi, neymar and di maria are relatively in the same case as pogba, for different reasons tho.
Because Matuidi and Kante is better than Fred and McTominay
Because international football is not as good as club football level.
he's basically the French version of Gareth bale
@@kushagrajain6644 bale is a winner dude... trophy after trophy... When was the last time pogba win anything for united
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At juventus Pogba was given the license to push forward and wasn’t bothered with defending when he was basically surrounded by 6 defenders helping out in bazargli, bonucci, chiellini, lichtsteiner/Cáceres, asamoah/evra, Vidal/Marchisio. He wasn’t burdened with being the teams creator when Pirlo was there to do that.
At France he was surrounded with with basically 6defenders again:
Varane
Umiti
Pavard (who is a cb that can also cover at rb)
Lucas hernandez (also a cb who can cover at lb)
Matuidi (a workaholic box to box player)
And kante.
The moment Pogba leaves such a defensive setup he can’t function.
What sort of liability is that?!
So you’re telling me that United have to put all these things in place just to unlock one players ability?! C’mon!
99% of we the United fan base would be so bored if we played like that. And yet some people out here think 1 cdm is enough to unlock Pog, they’re joking. He’s a luxury player.
His negative attitude started to manifest as soon as Zlatan left, almost like Zlatan was keeping him in check.
Even Modric and Kroos who are older still put in the yards.
The state Manchester United is in, we can’t afford to have any luxury player if we want to return to the top quickly.
He’s a talented player but It’s simple. He has to go
Your entire statement is heavily flawed and heres why:
1. United built a team around pogba the first 2 years with Carrick, Herrera and pogba being the midfield 3 and look at the roles Carrick in the Pirlo role as a deep lying playmaker/Sitter, Herrera in the vidal role as a box to box destroyer and pogba as the advance playmaker with this you won 3 trophies then moved to matic in the pirlo role with fred as a back out for Herrera as a destroyer and finish second in the league to a super man city team and since them dropped building a team around pogba instead opting to built your team around average players such as rashford, maguire, Lukaku, McUseless and bruno which have won you nothing
2. United ignored mourinhos request to buy fabinho or brozovic or matuidi or veratti to replace carrick instead opting to use Fellani and mctalentless as a stop gap, then refused to buy Mili-savic or Seri or Ndombele to play next to pogba as a second creative outlook settling with telling jose to use lingard which set you back 4 years in squad development because your recruitment is shit
3. In the midfield of Kroos, Modric and Casemiro you have the same position casemiro is the destroyer, Kroos is the deep lying playmaker and modric is the advance playmaker its the same with Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets or Lampard, Makelele and Ballack or Gerrard, Xabi Alonso and lucas levia or Ozil, Xabi alonso and Khedeira or Zidane, Makelele and Gutti every one has a luxury player that you put players around to do the donkey work for
4. United have the most fraudulent player in your team called Spamnandez that you all think is creative you didnt need a bruno in your squad you needed a Brozovic but in the league where goals are the only thing that matters you won't see it that way cause based on 99% of your fanbase bruno is better than iniesta and zidane because he scores more goals 🙄
Look pogba failed because your club failed him if i replace pogba with Ozil, KDB, zidane, iniesta, modric or pirlo they'd all perform the same if not worse than pogba is that because their shit or is it the team built around them are below standard
Well said. I think back to when Kroos and Modric played behind James Rodriguez at Madrid and while in some games they were good, they were hard to watch in others cause Modric and Kroos aren't a reliable defensive duo. It wasn't until Casemrio started playing behind them that Madrid as a whole became much better and the likes of Modric and Kroos weren't dragged down and burdened with large defensive duties.
With Pogba in defence, if you want him to position himself and cut out passing lanes, then he'll that job well and at times with United and France he would even recover the ball more than someone like Fred or Kante. But as we saw under Ole we defended with no structure and so much space to cover, and in THOSE scenarios Pogba isn't great (and neither is McFred even though they run around a lot)
Paul opened up about experiencing depression several times during his career starting with Jose Mourinho when he was at united. He said *From a personal perspective, that started when I was with Jose Mourinho at Manchester*
Yeah, it definitely affected him and his time at United.
@@Browne7100 with which players?
@@Browne7100 and David Beckham is also a shit player just like Pogba
@@chelseachelsea572 mourinho was agreat manager but since inter he has gone down in man j he coudnt win prem or champions and in real well i suppose you could make the case since in that tine peps team was insanely superior you can see that by the amoung of trophies both teams won but the art of defense is not an strategy that works today just ask atleti
@@sebastian-dp9vq Mourinho won Premier league in 2015. Pragmatic football still have success, like Atleti you mentioned, who were champions of La Liga just last season. Also don’t forget that Conte’s and Tuchel’s style are respectively counter attacking and defensive, which were very similar to Mou’s. So it’s really not about tactical style. Mourinho’s lack of recent success are more about his own psychology (I’m a believer that what happened in Real broke him) which affects his man management results, not optimal recruitments, his own tactical mistakes, and at some cases, some bad luck from injuries.
Dude, nice content! Cheers from Mexico.
yo my guy top tier content always
Great video, subscribed! I'm personally a big fan of Paul Pogba. I think going to United was a huge mistake for him and he's wasted what should have been his prime years at a mess of a football club. If he leaves in the summer and goes to a Real Madrid or a Chelsea then hopefully we'll get to see him thrive as he has all the talent to be one of the best in the world.
Juventus got a gem in Pogba.
He stopped going to Dubai and started skiing during injuries.
What a player
Talent gets beaten by hard work every time. Hard work being Something pogba hasn’t got.
Pogba is far too inconsistent for the EPL and his laid back attitude will always leave him open to criticism in a country and a league that places a high value on work rate and effort
Facts
Did you watch him when he was still new?
Hard disagree. At Juventus he was pretty consistent with the occasional (but frequent) great game. He owned the position, no one could substitute him in his role, at least not without a quality drop.
@@leandro8897 I said that he has been far too inconsistent for the English Premier League. I appreciate that he was brilliant in Italy, hence why Man Utd spent all that money to bring him back. But that was in a different league, played at a different pace and he was surrounded by some fantastically gifted footballers, such as Pirlo, who allowed him to play to his strengths more of the time.
But if you look at how he has played during his second spell with United, he has not performed consistently at the level that he can play at. He has had countless opportunities but he has never really capitalised on these.
My observation was more about how his laid back attitude would always attract criticism in England if he didn't get results. A bit like Berbatov.
When he had more assists and goals than kdb you were quiet and he did this as a deep lying midfield
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Ive been waiting for this🔥🔥🔥
I’ll never forget his first goal for us. Just a casual half volley into the top corner vs Swansea. Hmm maybe it wasn’t his first but I remember it was after he was being criticized lmaoo I was like “yeah we in good hands”….
He was totally on fire in Juve and that's because he was being adapted to the team's organization according to his biggest advantages and qualities. That's how usually Juve builds its team. I hope he goes back to Turin one day, would be a decent signing once again.
Loving the content❤️
Excellent video, as usual.
Great video as always my G. Just a question for you, will we ever get a video on Real Madrid's UCL three-peat? Or one on Karim Benzema at the end of the season maybe? As you can probably tell I'm a Madridista, would love to see these topics discussed.
Crazy three years
Ronaldo was untouchable
@@hoze1235 Good times, they were.
Barcelona fan myself, and I'd love to see that. It was just that iconic.
GOATed content, man ⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽
Where did you get so much talent ?
You videos are so good to watch
One of the best passers of the ball I've ever seen.
Watch him play for France - the lad's a genius.
My guy, I love your channel. You've done many videos on Barcelona's great era of dominance with Guardiola. Can you please do a video on Johan Cryuff, as a player, as a manager that won the European Cup with Barcelona in 1992 (after he was beaten by the GOAT Sir Alex Ferguson in the greatest competition of all time the 1991 European Cup Winners Cup) and his influence after his retirement from management. Cruyff is probably the biggest legend in European football. 3 time Ballon d'Or winner, 9 Erdivise titles, 1 La Liga title, 3 European cups and many more trophies and individual awards as a player and European cup and 4 time La Liga winner as a manager. Probably the greatest and most influential man in the world of football as a player, a manager and as an influencer who Guardiola used as the blueprint to produce the greatest club side of all time
It already did
@@lexkanyima2195 he has not. He's made videos on Lineker, Guardiola as a player and Guardiolas Barcelona. Nothing on Cruyff so far other than mentioning him briefly in other videos
Seriously, this channel is the GOAT for Football content and archives, not only from the premier, but also other leagues, you are doing the lord's work!
It is possible for you to let a bit of a spotlight to another iconic player like Kaka in future videos? i oftenly feel that people has forgotten how of a monster that guy was in his prime.
Prime Kaka was a joy to watch. Pity injuries ruined him.
Raymar
Got the sub before you even had to ask with that intro ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️ nice vid
Great video 🤙🏼
He is lazy. That’s a very true statement. He is more concerned with his hair than playing. I wouldn’t want him on my team. Saying that United is a dumpster fire is absurd. I don’t like United but the problems start with the players themselves. They don’t hold themselves accountable. The only players conducting themselves in a professional manner are Ronaldo, Bruno Fernandes, Matic, Dallot, Cavani and Sancho, De Gea and Mata.They go out and try their hardest and put in work. All the other players are there just to collect a check.when you look at the squad size and you have toxic players like Greenwood and Pogba who just sandbag and only show up and perform when they feel, that’s a problem. Mata is 5 years his senior and puts in more effort at the games and performs more consistently. Pogba should go to PSG. Go play with the farmers where he will look world class again but then show up at UCL games and be a bum against a proper squad.
its more like all united's players are shit
and pogba is surrounded by shit players
He is good but he isn't worldclass, he needs worldclass players to make him look worldclass. Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio or Kante, Matuidi, Tollisso.
Genuine worldclass players improve those around them, he needs people to make him look worldclass
@@chelseachelsea572 stop
@@chelseachelsea572 disgraceful subhuman Chelsea fan
all great players in his position have played with a great 6 to shine brightest. He was still young when he came to united, he wasn't e al leader and united was trying to force him to be one. They should have surrounded him with great players and instead they gave him Fred and mctominay and they played him out of position
You’re drunk if u think tolisso is world class🤨🤨🤨
as someone whos really been a soccer fan for about two years you really are the goat. love ya man
Love this channel
Baloteli is immensely talented but packaged defectively in the pr department. Pogba is well packaged and not as talented
I actually feel happy for him now, he no longer have to fear scorpion kicks to the head anymore
lmao Manchester united is meme now
You make amazing content
Great video again! Keep it up
I'll try! Thanks :)
He needs to play in the right team when he has someone doing the the running for him for example kante and a team that believes in him
@@chelseachelsea572 your mum likes us tho
@@chelseachelsea572 bro, stop
@@chelseachelsea572 Chill the fuck out
@@opinionatortv6457 I was trying to say he plays well for France 🇫🇷 consistency so we know he can do that and that is because of someone dose the running for him and the France 🇫🇷 team and fans back him up.
Nice to put a face to the voice finally! As for Pogba, Utd ruined him in my opinion. We could have had 2 KVDB calibre midfielders, we ended up with one. And FINALLY, someone who understands his role at Juve, as a mezzala. With Pirlo as the playmaker and a prime Vidal to cover for him, Pogba was able to flourish. Utd simply didn't know how to utilize his talents. Edited, lots of typos due to the mezzala excitement
Sorry, but this is bullshit. Quality shines through, especially if you’re surrounded by dross. United might not get the best out of him, but he’s lazy, lacks discipline and appears to have little to no desire to win. He was jogging round the pitch and was dispossessed loads in the game against Liverpool.
So that's what you look like (great speaking voice BTW, and your gentle humor adds a lot to the videos).
I think the problem with Pogba isn't that he was bad, people just expected more from him. And I can understand, he really was a very special talent. Very rare skills.
Unrealistic expectations from uneducated fans who had agenda towards him and was jealous because of the trophies and individual awards which he won
I don't think it is entirely Man Utd's fault that Pogba couldn't reach his potential, Pogba also should have done more research and should have took a better decision in 2016
An absolute legend........ in his own mind that is.
This channel is lit🙌🙌
This is the first video I've seen from you guys and I really like the fanbase you've got here. Lots of good comments here about the guy and the situation he's in right now.
Souness would love to see this video.
Pogba in the French National team: The Leader and the Brain
Pogba in Man Utd: Better than Maguire
great video
Great video bro, your face somehow matches your voice, now I'm double jelly. I was wondering, do you stream or are you planning to? After watching the last UCL games I was wishing to get your thoughts on them. Not to metion for the upcoming World Cup, man the anxiety is kiiling me.
Hey man, thanks so much! No I don't do any of that at the moment. Thinking about starting in the future, though!
Quick side-note: Pogba actually never played with the current Juve logo 😉
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I love your channel man🇿🇦
Pogba was signed to sell shirts. He’s a footballing celebrity not a player you build around. That said did he do something to Souness’ family or pets? Man’s obsessed
Lol at ferguson there. You cannot blame pogba in that, when united didnt have midfielder, pogba still didnt get a chance, and he prefer to played rafael (a fullback) and called scholes to cameback from retirement... its must be hurt for a teenager
Good to put a face to the voice. Good video as always, can you make them a bit longer next time lol
You see a new video from the football iconic and you know it’s a great day
He would have been a great player for Real Madrid with Casemiro as the destroyer. I really wanted him to play for us, it could still happen, but it's a bit too late now...
It’s too late now. Now Pogba has question marks over his club performances which makes fans wary about him, also nearing 30, and a history of controversy surrounding dressing room and club loyalty/ stability. I would be very surprised if Madrid board would even think about him now, I doubt it though. They have their eyes elsewhere now.
He'd struggle with the La Liga midfield battle. He looks slow and clunky when teams target him with the press and teams in La Liga are more ruthless at targeting weaknesses of the big teams. I can still remember Marcelo being isolated to the point he was dropped.
Pogba is so amazing with the France national team, that at moments is just enraging to see him play so badly and lazy at ManUnited; and I'm a Mancity follower who clearly does not want to see ManU win anything, but Pogba somehow does not have a very strong mindset and that plays against him. I hope he can have a decent career for what's left
i seriously think he had the potential to be the best player in the world. I guess managers are supposed to get the best out of players and clearly Man U have had very poor managing, ownership and teamwork
Paul Pogba has to be the only footballer in the world that is not allowed to make mistakes...any single mistake overrides all the good he’s done , he’s judged differently compared to other players
Hey!
This is just a suggestion, can you pls make a tactical and transfer side video about "How Xavi changed Barcelona".
I know that this would just be a drop in the ocean, but still the way you show it no one does.
Wish he shined with us, he will blow up at a different club, wishing him all the best!
He hasn’t and won’t
@@benk3716 lol dude
@@benk3716 he re-debuted for Juventus, had a decent game, and will more than likely shine for them again....
So I don't know what you're smokig💀💀
Everyone easily agrees that he was one of the most entertaining to watch at Juventus now with Man United things changed , with France he always performs but at club level he doesn't, I think it's clear he has to leave if he wants to revive his career
I think so too. I remember watching the few games that France played in the euros and it made me miss the time he was one of the best
True
Underrated!
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I think he’s had an unfortunate situation at United (Obviously lol) and the clubs problems are not his fault but with that being said, the man is LAZY on the pitch. No other way to say it. All the talent in the world can’t make up for an unmotivated attitude. Such a shame.
I like the casual “oh yea he won a WC” dropped at the end. Not even mentioning that he is the cornerstone of this team and putup some legendary performances during that cup. Same for the last League of Nation etc…
Then why he is limited
Pogba plays with a lot of flair and the team setup around him is very important for his performance.
Video Idea : How good was Keylor Navas
Was ?
@@VictorDurand-me5yu technically, yes. He has already lost his place to Donnarumma and might be heading out of PSG this summer. The man's still great no doubt but it'll be very hard for him to get consistent game time at a big club.
I've been saying for years now, Pogba is the greatest footballer who never learned how to play football. On the ball he can be truly terrific, but off it he has a tenuous grasp of how to make space, run onto balls, or close down positions.
Yep. Amazing technique and skill but very little idea of how to integrate that ability effectively. So many times I've watched him try flashy skills and lose the ball in dangerous areas of the pitch or try to take on too many players and lose the ball. He's incredibly wasteful and has not learned anything from his bad games.
@@ravecrab You've absolutely nailed it on the head there - he doesn't learn from his bad games. There's an element of narcissism in there, maybe because he's won a WC, but you are so right, he has never learned to better his game. So often he just rinses and repeats the same moves and gets found out, yet every now and then he luckily pulls off a worldy and all the critics suddenly jump on his bandwagon again. He's been found wanting so many times, I doubt there is much left in his future. Reminds me a bit of Anelka, although Anelka was arguably the better footballer, even if he was shocking under pressure
Perfectly summed up
If Sir Alex Ferguson says a player is better off away from the club it’s best to listen to him.
Honestly, I am just so done with the whole “this guy has amazing ball skills so let’s spend crazy money on him and tout him as the next big thing”. There is soooo much more to football than that. Solely on club level, Pogba is a very very mediocre player. There are tons of players that contribute as much as him on the pitch that don’t get near as much money or fame.
Bro this is exactly the point. Football has now become a sport where you just throw money at a problem and there's little support for managers. Players run the game and what they want goes.
@@lemiphil2388 ehhh my point is tangent to that but not exactly. My point is that the money is going in the wrong direction. After all, it's usually the managers making the player acquisition decisions. They are just choosing to go with "finesse" over substance. Maybe that's because finesse gets you higher ticket sales or more lucrative sponsorships but it rarely, imho, translates to success on the field. Just look at PSG or Man City. Crazy money. Absolutely crazy payrolls (throwing money at the problem), but they still haven't been able to win the big one ( UCL ). Whereas teams like RM or Bayern Munich who are willing to pay, but usually go for substance, keep winning.
@@playea123 hmmm 🤔. You're right mate.
man, dude’s a monster. Even at united where he did pretty bad he’s still one of the best midfielders in the prem. And just wanna let you know that when he was at juve a lot of fans compared him to zidane himself. he’s arguably not even in the top 10 midfielders atm but you can’t call him mediocre, using that word near pogba’s name feels like blasfemy
@@pincopall500 what exactly is your criteria for “best midfielders in the Prem”? Also, at Juve, he was compared to a young Zidane and that he had the potential to reach that strata. Not that he was at prime Zidane level at that time. He absolutely had all the potential in the worlds and maybe that’s part of why he was highly sought after but let’s not act like he has met or exceeded expectations. To mention him and Zidane at the same sentence now is heresy.
Great talent, crap attitude. It's that simple - whichever way you look at it, he's overrated.
Argument #1: He shouldn't play a disciplined role
If anyone thinks so, especially under Mourinho, then look no further than what a player Joe Cole became. Listen to how much he credited Jose for bringing his game to the next level. Or see how much KDB contributes off the ball. He is talented but his abilities doesn't warrant a "free (of defensive responsibilities) role" like Messi or Ronaldo.
Argument #2: But he plays well for France
This is a fallacy, tournaments are mostly 7-8 matches long at most. Then remember that you only see him often perform well for only half a tournament - that's about 3-4 games. Club seasons are much longer than that and will expose anyone who cannot be consistent. For someone who is 29 now and has plenty of experience, he still shows immaturity. Just look at how he frustrated his teammates in France during the last Euro match last year. And for players who mature with age, look at Modric, Pirlo, and Scholes, to name a few.
Argument #3: He is a good guy
People only think he's a good guy because he seems carefree and should be fun to party with. That's not the primary function of a footballer, especially one paid millions per year. Roy Keane is definitely not a fun nice guy to be with, but he dragged the team through so many bad games. The way he and his agent talks to the media to flirt with other clubs during every international break also shows his poor attitude and an utter lack of respect for the club who still pays his weekly wages, as well as no respect for their fans. That also proves the virus comment by Mourinho - see how other players like Luke Shaw have started talking the same way like him recently.
What a player joe Cole became? What player was that- his game changed but he never became a world beater. Ultimately sign a player and play to his strengths- Jose took the player out of John obi Mikel too, he has an obsession of killing the flair out of midfielders- just don’t sign them lol. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. Although not the same talent wise- Jose did the same with mctominay. Any midfielder that looks physically imposing he seems to feel must be a defensive player, it’s stupid.
His performances for France aren’t a fallacy- he performs well- yes it’s less football games but it’s higher pressure disproving the myth of his supposed lack of mentality- he’s always one of their key performers too. It’s not immaturity but suitability he’s an offensive player given defensive duty because he’s big… you wouldn’t play ozil or grealish etc where he’s expected to…
You mention France being a fallacy because it’s a small number of games? Well Keane dragging united is a fallacy bevause ultimately how many games did Keane have to do that? It was a spell where united was dominating with the best manager and players! This united period post fergie has constantly been poor Keane would have to drag united monthly if not almost weekly and he couldn’t and wouldn’t. Keane in this side would end up trying yes but ultimately just screaming on the pitch in frustration or dare u say criticising the players or tactics in the media like he did at united before.
The media stuff is an angle, he’s asked questions and answers as truthfully as possible- the future may or may not be at united, sure we want all players to say I’m staying at united forever but ultimately I respect honesty. He came back happy but since then Things at united aren’t going great…
Truth is pogba was signed under the idea he was central to a big project but ended up being signed to shoehorn as a cog in a poor machine- that doesn’t suit his game and has rarely been given the freedom to drag his team out of the mud in a more free role- a double edged sword. He’s also scapegoated- I have never watched a game and thought “pogba is the no1 culprit” he’s just been part of the whole underperforming team. Jose can’t speak on being a virus, we haven’t heard of pogba being a problem at juve or France but Jose has lost multiple dressing rooms and player issues- he’s the common denominator… he even mocked united football heritage lol.
excelent as always, though as a chilean i will say, try to pronounce Arturo's surname as BEE-dal , accentuated on the bee.
finally a vid about my favourite player
I still believe that if he had chosen Real Madrid over Man U. he would've done better. There would be no room for him to slack in a club like that and I don't think they would've used him as a CDM there
Exactly
1:26, what a handsome boy. 🙂
Haha thanks
Pogba's lack of strength of character is the main reason he hasn't been able to perform as well as he should at United. He isn't a man to drag a team out from the depths. He is undeniably top quality but he's also a total luxury player and somewhat of a cruiser; the absolute best example of this is France's Euro 2020 exit against Switzerland in which he played exceptional while France were on the front foot and scored an incredible long distance goal to make it 3-1. After that belter he actualised the hyperbolic narrative of arrogance perpetuated by the likes of Souness and performing a blatantly choreographed dance act to celebrate. The commentators were convinced the game was over at that point, as was I.
Switzerland then mounted a comeback and Pogba was nowhere to be seen. He was lax on switching the emphasis to defence along with the rest of the team and they lost on penalties. All flash, no verve. If in a parallel universe Pogba had the fortune of being managed by Guardiola at City, I suspect he would be the player we all thought he would. Pogba is definitely a victim of circumstance at United given his absence of mettle.
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Pogba can play well in PSG/Bayern
His biggest mistake was going back to utd