I Sold My New Land Rover Defender After Only 1 Year
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2022
- Today is a sad day here on Performance On Wheels... Moment of silence for the long lost Defender. Today we talk about why we sold the Defender, how we made money on it and what's next! Also our final thoughts too sum up our long term 2021 Defender 90s Review. Thank you all so much for joining us on our journey! See you next time!
#Defender #Landrover #rangerover - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Looking for a heavily deprecated high end luxury SUV. Comment some links on some for sale below!
I would look for a 2011-2013 BMW X5M
@@giudasilva3651 seriously? I love the idea of them.
I'm looking at 2016 - 2018 LR RR's with the SDV6 or the SCV8 making sure it has TR2/Auto and ATPC. And low miles. These can be found in the low 50k - 60K range. 🙂
Get a new Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve. You'll be shocked how much of a luxury SUV it has become with the new WL generation.
@@Japplesnap definitely good first impressions in the GC. I liked the update. I still do not know that I would buy one new for the price. Good used future car IMO. I like other options more at that new price point.
Its sad when people bash these cars having never been in one or driven them.
No issues whatsoever with my 2022 Defender 90 D250
It's been used daily in my business, on and off road, loaded up and in all weathers.
Two and a half years with my D200 90 and just over 12,000 miles. Not a single problem so far and delighted with it 👍
Currently have a Discovery 5, bought new and I’ve done 81,294 miles on a 71 plate, no issues, best vehicle I’ve ever driven, ordered my Defender D250 this week
First want to say, your content and knowledge of different types is very good. You deserve way more subs for sure. Thanks for taking time to produce content. Keep it up guys, your effort will be rewarded. As for the Defender, I was here when you first got it. It will be missed. However I know the journey continues. Look forward to the next vehicle you get. The buyer of your Defender can be sure they are getting an excellently maintained vehicle. Thanks for the owner experience. This is valuable to current and future owners.
I have 0 issues with my defender. I’ve been driving in the outback of Australia and it’s been amazing
Must of been a 300tdi
I have a 110 p300, with roof rack and ladder, I carry all my tools and stuff in the back (approx 200lbs worth) and as long as I stay under 70 mph I can get mid to high 20’s mpg consistently. Some days in moving traffic of around 60mph I’ve even hit 30mpg. I’m convinced frequent oil changes has helped, one at 8000, and another at 19000. Been superb last the last 2 years.
High 20's as an average? Or just real-time reading? I am speaking to the overall average of the vehicle.
@@PerformanceOnWheels average for the whole journey. my wife who’s a smoother driver than me often Uses it to visit her Nan, 100 mile round trip, she’s never below 28mpg, sometimes just over 30mpg. Average speed has to be around 55mph for that (includes a bit of traffic) I use only premium fuel also.
Why so long between oil changes? Isn’t it every 6000 miles?
Not according to LR owners manual.
Get looks all the time. Have the same one. 2023. I got it because I love it. I wanted a defender 90 when I was 16 years old. Now I have a little girl… legally she wouldn’t be able to sit in the back as the sears face each other. 2020 they came out with the defenders again. I just love it. Only 600 miles. I’m nervous because of your videos. Hope it doesn’t have issues.
Enjoy it regardless. There is a very good chance you will not experience any issues. Congrats they are great!
I love the color combination of this Defender. Looks like a Storm Trooper. And at 4:35. Yes, I would be takeing in the Land Rover but I'd be taking you in too! You are both total hotboxes !!! Total studs. 🔥
My defender has been great but I did have to replace some speakers. All covered under warranty. No squeaks rattles nothing. I do notice jittering time to time when accelerating but I believe it’s a communication delay between the turbo charger, the super charger and the electric motor.
that’s interesting about the gas mileage! My 2021 Fpace SVR got 25mpg driving mostly in eco from San Diego to Tucson AZ. Of course the tires and extra weight make a difference but the SVR engine has twice the cyclinders!
You wrote a bunch of stuff. All I read was Tucson! I love Tucson. Will be buying a home there soon. Higher torque, less weight, better aero... Might all be contributing factors.
200,000 kms 2 years absolutely no issues for me any ways oh well 2022 Defender P400
Strange that they have a reputation for depreciation in USA. They hold their value better than anything other than Toyota in the UK. Can find ones from 30 years old with 300,000+ hard miles on a farm with rust holes in the floor and sellers still want £15,000+
Those are the old Defenders…
@@christophersaul very true
Land Rover will always have a stigma attached... for multiple decades being super unreliable, worse resale value, or just the term "junk". Just like the Toyota Prius will always have a stigma attached to it, even though they made it better looking recently... people will always believe they are the worse/annoying/etc. drivers.
Just over one year in with the P400 X 90. Last 80mile trip was 25.5mpg. Still love it, a very special car, which as you say, is unlikely to be around for much longer. I believe a MSRP increase is coming in December. 🙏
Why are you hoping for an MSRP increase?
@@bennytdi I’m not hoping at all, just stating as that may effect residuals but it’s all relative if inflation pushes up everything. 🤓
Subbed hoping you get more Land Rover
We will at somepoint!
I have a 2023 defender that has been in the shop more than on the road!!!! We’re trying to make a deal on trading it back to the dealership!!! A very bad ownership experience! It’s in the shop now with a fuel pump issue! This car only has 6k on it! Beware to all future buyers!!! Car started with stop start issue, transmission problem, back seat problem with folding, steering lock up while driving, stop start button doesn’t always function. Looking at lemon law possibility! Only vehicle in my lifetime that has had this much trouble and Iam 67.
Definitely sounds like a Lemon law too me
I have a 2001 Land Cruiser with 190,000 miles. In that time I have experienced a host of problems: 1. A flat tire. 2. New windshield wipers. 3. At 90K I changed the timing belt, pumps, fluids, etc. 4. Tires at 65K and 115K. That’s it. Oh, wait, I also had to refill the wiper fluid. I drive this thing in the desert, the shore, the mountains - I haul five surfing guys with boards and bags - I put city and highway and dirt and sand road miles on it. I think I will go 300K with it. Defender? NEVER. Junk
@@surfingonmars8979 foolish of you comparing them both. Reliability =/= Luxury
Hey, I completely relate to your experience I did lemon my 2023 Defender 90 after due to the wade system unable to activate since i purchased it at the dealer, I literally drove it for 1500 miles only, was back in the shop within 10 days of purchase, i had transmission issues, passenger seat fold mechanism broke and faulty speakers for the entertainment, and engine fan would go on after i turn off the car for about 1-2 minutes, it was hassle, i put the car in the shop July 7 2022 and never saw it again! Finally was given my money back in mid December 2022, during all that time i was still paying for a car i didnt have!!! It really hurts me bcz the defender was my dream car since i was kid and the old gens defenders i fell in love with! Every time i see one on the road, it bothers me! Bcz I see what I could’ve had if land rover did not screw up their quality control!!!!! I ended up with a mercedes e 450 all-terrain wagoon, amazing car, but not off road worthy like a defender!!!
There’s two camps of defender owners, those that have issues and rightly so complain and get refunded etc, then there’s the other camp that have all the issues and say it’s ok? Are they brain washed into accepting that this is ok? Spend circa 80k on a vehicle and accept that’s it’s ok to have an engine failure? Or a water pump fail? Windscreens that crack? Quality issues? Software that simply fails and the continuous engine management light being on? How do JLR get away with it? If they could build a reliable car they’d have one of the best brands on the planet. Genuinely like the defender and want to buy one but all these issues gives me huge concern ! Such a Shame 🇬🇧
Just a small correction, the Defender is not suppose to be a luxury vehicle
We own a Bronco now. Just checking it out. I can say with confidence. The Defender is a luxury car. It is just a luxury car in the off-road segment. It does not compare to the Bronco/Wrangler the 4runner.......gx460 is so outdated that it is hard to compare that. You talk about GWagons then that is a different topic as well. The Defender is in a league of its own. I am confident in saying that is closer to being on the luxury side of things.
No, Clarifaco is correct. It’s not a luxury vehicle. It’s a sports utility vehicle that’s made by a luxury brand. I can list many luxury SUVs, and Defender isn’t one of them
...what???? The correction should be is mis named it should be called the pretender
It’s looks way better than a Toyota.
My Dad had several Land Rovers. They were mechanical disasters. They were always in the repair shops.
Did you have the 19" wheels with off-road tires? How were they in a snowy road?
They were great in winter. I believe they were 17 or 18s
so sad
Take a shot every time you hear, “When it works.” Well if you are going to have delusions, you might as well have satisfying ones!
I still have a 2012 Defender already had 110,000 miles. Why I just saw this after purchasing a P400 Defender :(
Looks like you guys are from MN. Want to do a review on an R1S LE? Let me know, I’d be glad to let you guys do your thing on it. I think it’s funny that you end your video saying if we have to go electric, something like this won’t be around much longer. I believe the R1S is the boxy brick equivalent of the Defender ….let’s call it “120”.
We would absolutely love too make a video on your R1S. Would you be willing too shoot us an email too communicate further? Thanks!
Performanceonwheels111@gmail.com
So what's the reason? I don't get it lol
Searched for Land Rover Defender, got Land Rover Pretender.
😲
So stupid
The front looks like a small space ship from star wars 😢 Bee a real man, drive a Hilux 😊
You guys will miss it, but as u said, another JLR product will grace your driveway in due course.
I wonder if u guys would have liked the Defender a lot more if u got it with the P400 engine ?
P300 is a good motor, but in a Defender, it struggles with the vehicles weight.
P400 is a much better motor.
More power, a lot more responsive, and fuel economy is similar, or even better then the P300, because the P400 doesn’t struggle with the vehicles weight.
Also, a Defender is not aerodynamic, so any driving above 60 mph, won’t be kind to fuel economy.
Any motor will work hard, when it needs to push a brick through the air, at speeds above 60 mph.
Austin,
Yes, everything is going EV, but Defender will continue with its current body shape.
The new Defender 130 can seat 8 people…
Whilst the gas engines will get phased out a lot by 2030, and power will become Electric, the different types, and body shapes of vehicles will remain.
You can’t carry 8 people ( legally ) or comfortably in a Toyota Corolla…
The F150 Lightning looks much the same as other
F150…
I sold mine for 15000 dollars more and bought a new one
Winning!
Reliability is my greatest concern for this vehicle! LR’s reputation in this area does not give me any confidence to spend a 100k on this car. To get the amazing ground clearance and approach angles, LR went with air suspension which over time will fail out of warranty. How much will that bill be? Something I am not willing to find out. I’m going with the Lexus GX Overtrail to sleep good at night!
Your thinking aligns with many people.
I had an LR4 for a bit. Went to the shop 3x in the first year I owned it. It would have gone more, but I gave up trying to get the cameras to work and just never went back to the dealer to have them try and fix it again. It also went in because the air suspension got stuck and wouldn't raise or lower.
Maybe but $56K for a base model? That's pathetic. And it's loaded with sooooo much electronic bling. If they deleted it and did it the way they SHOULD, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper. Save all the garbage for the Range Rover. It costs $5K more than a Range Rover did 6-7 years ago! Why get this? Might as well buy a 1 year old RR instead.
The car companys make car down to a price in the usa , we don't get any of the trouble in Australia that you get in the US with cars
Hello sir, what tint percentage did you do for the front windows?
30 percent.
@@PerformanceOnWheels Thank you sir. Is that a match for the rear window's tint from the factory?
Yes it is!
JLR is taking orders for these no problem. Not sure why anyone would pay over the new price for a used Defender when you could just order a new one and wait a few months....
I don't think the few month wait is realistic. Unless you got lucky with allocation and build date. I am hearing 5-18 months. Thank you for checking in and commenting. World-wide the Defender is currently top 10 new vehicles that is holding value.
13 month for a 90…..longer if you want the hard top here in the U.K. We have had ours for a year….. love it and get about 34mpg out of our 300. Not a single thing gone wrong….so far so good.
You guys gonna try a grenadier?
Would love to. Love the driveline.
As per ur title saying sold my defender after 1 year use but u gave just positives of it rather what made u eventually sell it. (Negatives)
Because there was no negatives! Sold it because we had the opportunity to make some money on it
@@PerformanceOnWheels oh ok it went that way my bad cheers mate
The only one that it worths buying is the diesel!
We don't even get that as an option here in the U.S.
me thinking in how to buy a new car in 5 years...or 10. And this: selling after 1 year a brand new car. Europe is such a lame place to have dreams.
Trying to find avg cost of ownership
Thanks for checking multiple videos out! My advice is to go into it with worse case scenario in mind. Be grateful when you don't experience that. Have owned multiple JLR products at this point, some are flawless and some fit the stereotype. There is something special about them, if you do not feel that after driving the brand. I suggest move on. The 2024 GX550 is going to be pretty rad.
You can never fix a land rover
17,000 miles, changed oil once...
This is one of the main reasons why these cars are unreliable, the owners don't maintain them.
According to the owners manual. An annual oil change of 12 months or 16,000 miles.
@@PerformanceOnWheels the fact that you fall for the Manufacture BS shows you know nothing about vehicles.
Why would you follow something you don’t plan to own out of warranty to just be out more money on?
@@PerformanceOnWheelsyou have to change oil in every 6 months or 10k miles.
Don't wait for them as they are like iPhones, 1 screen Crack will cost you 400 USD to replace a new ones.
For a speaker or battery or charging port they can make 300 USD more from you.
Same procedure is mentained for Kawasaki bikes.
@@gulag88you must be fun at parties 🤷♂️
In the UK JLR managed to get 7 models in top 10 very unreliable suv's. They still can do that.
It is great to know what you are good at, and stick to it! Consistency.
@@PerformanceOnWheels Haha cool remark.
Hahaha
No chips or dings? LMAO. Bring it to northern Texas for a year. When you get it back, it'll look like it was on rocky trails for 6 months! Texas roads are DECREPIT and filthy as hell.
Our roads are not filthy in Minnesota. We often send out Amber alerts because children get lost in potholes, however.
All brand have lemons L R just more in the basket! 😀
I had a Range Rover and it was the worst car I’ve had. If you don’t want problems buy a Land Cruiser 300 GR Diesel or VXR.
VXR petrol is better as diesel ones is like a peterbelt truck
Range rovers are nice big and feel great, but I always laugh to myself people think they're hot stuff and I've only heard horror stories going as far back as 2012 with the rovers sucks
This isn't a Range Rover.
@@sailor0405 the rover brand in general
They look great, but I heard they are a maintenance nightmare
Minnesotan?
Yup!
To much chit chat
It's a Pretender
Brittish crap loaded with elecronics and tralala. I have my Landcruiser HZJ79 for 23 years now and i won't swap it for a brand new Landrover.
But your in a Toyota 😂
That will be in a junk yard before half the toyotas built 20 years ago.
this suv will drain your wallet....gas, maintenance, and repairs.
It’s called a ten year warranty 🤷♂️
It takes big balls if your middle class and money matters to buy this car. If you are wealthy, of course, it matters nothing at all. But think about it it’s 80 grand. For most people this is a bad car to buy as it will bleed them and cannot be counted on. Possibly one of the worst car decisions to buy this in the business.
lol what’s a nice Chevy or ford truck cost now a days hero?
They have a warranty no bleeding here
Overhyped SUV...same with the Range Rover line...beautiful but very very ugly
I get lots of compliments 🤷♂️
LR Defender is a crap. Nothing beats Toyota Landcruiser or Lexus LX570.
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