LEGO Technic 42170 Kawasaki Ninja H2R Motorcycle detailed building review
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Those pistons size are telling me that creator expert with a working engine is possible
Also makes a boxer engine more possible
It was already possible with a method that's even more compact. It's used in the Technic Landrover and the small motorcycle.
racingbrick will never let lego forget for not including bigger back tires
I got this set as a companion to my Ducati Panigale and honestly I really like both of them. It is bizarre how they compare and how relatively different they are. In terms of functions they are basically the same - 2 speed gearbox, working steering wheel and front and rear suspension, the notable difference being the kickstand for the Kawasaki as comared to Ducati's paddock stand. The Ducati really amazed me by what can be accomplished with purely Technic build... well there are a total of 5, if memory serves, non-Technic parts = two katanas, two clear round 1x1 tiles and one 2x3 tile, all attached via Technic elements. Meanwhile, Kawasaki is much less hesitant of using System parts, and they pop up in quite a few places, but to a good effort. There's a noticeable increase in detail, with things like brake handles, footrests and more detailed seat being included on the Kawasaki, but probably the most important difference in terms of parts is a new windshield piece used in place of Ducati's vinyl windshield. It also does away with the rubber band powered gear shifter mechanism. On the other hand, the Kawasaki is noticeably more hollow, which is probably due to its inline 4 engine as compared Ducati's V4. While you could fairly easily fit a V4 engine inside a frame of a motorcycle in this scale using the classic 2x4 cylinder bricks, it wouldn't be possible with inline engine, as it would immediately make the bike way wider. That's most likely why they switched to a smaller sized new 1x1 pistons and complementary crankwheels. The resulting engine works well and is visible when handling the model, both of which are good things, but it is also quite noticeably tiny and leaves quite a bit of empty space within the bike. That's probably why they decided to skip perhaps the most obscure function that the Ducati had - the quick release bodywork panels, which let you display the bike with exposed internals - you cannot really do that easily with the Kawasaki and even if you do, I'm afraid the model won't look as presentable in its "naked" form. Still, I ended up modifying my Ducati after getting it, giving the fairing more complete shape, filling some gaps, improving the seat area and also, perhaps most importantly, giving it a front brake caliper and fender. The Kawasaki, has got all these upgrades, except the front brake caliper and front fender, out of the box, so I guess it shows overall evolution of this line. Line that, I'd say, is more interesting than the big 1:5 motorcycles, not only Ducati and Kawasaki have basically the same functions in smaller form, they are about 1/3 the price of their larger brethren and seem both much more playable and much sturdier, with the BMW M1000RR and Yamaha MT10 SP feeling at home really only when mounted on their stands.
I'm still going to look for a way of adding the front brakes and fender to my Kawasaki, though, but I feel it is the only upgrade it needs.
I don't like the Batcycle personally. It is accurate to the movie version, but even the movie version I find simply ugly.
Also, I figured out a simple way to reduce the wobble on the brickbuild part of the gas tank. Just use a spare 1l tube piece on the front pin of the 2x2 modified plate with two pins on the bottom.
@@CrazyChemistPLDoesn't fit for me. An alternative is to replace the 1x2-plate-with-door-rail (32028) with a 1x2-plate-with-bar-handle (48336).
@@adrianbarbour5098 Tried it twice, first time I had problems fitting it in, the second time it went in perfectly. I had one other person saying that my solution worked for them. But your solution is also perfectly valid, perhaps even more so than mine because there's absolutely no risk of stressing the parts. But it does require an extra part not included in the set.
To be completely honest, I love those clicky fake engines made with the axles, to me it sounds like the engine is going high and heating up!
The benefit is that i have wanted to make a boxer engine but the lego piston parts are too big. The older fake engines would not come back because they wouldn’t fall down. So this allows the piston to come back and forth
Thank you for the review RacingBrick! This is the only Lego technic set I want from the March lineup. It looks really awesome and detailed and full of playable functions. The only problem is the pricing. It should have been $50USD because it’s a 600 piece set. I can’t wait to get it!
THANK YOU RACINGBRICK
Nicely done with pistons, gorgeous!
Great review, love the bike… ordered on yesterday and I’m waiting for it to arrive to build and put next to my Ducati…thank you.
Wow! Lego did a great job! It looks really quite accurate given the limitations of the Lego parts! Amazing how many functions one can pack into a model of that scale.
Looks stunning 🎉
Wow. I only have the Batcycle, but the pistons in this... Amazing. Thank you for this kind of review. The transmission works just like my real life Honda: clicks in first, clicks in neutral, no sound from neutral to second. :D
This set is so cool, featuring a licsensed motorbike with a gearbox
80 bucks for such a set is stupidly high. The Ducati was 50 and I wouldn’t call that exactly cheap.
The Ducati hit 50 at retail, but it was never listed for 50.
That’s what I got it for, and I doubt the Kawasaki will retail for the same price.
Very true. You can get the All Terrain Vehicle for the same price and you get more functions, better engine and better gearbox. But I still kinda like this motorcycle because it looks quite cool.
Ducati was 80 for me
Lego price 📈
Lego piece count for price📉
omg finally, this was so hyped up for the motorcycle enthusiasts like me.
I love it no matter what, the price kinda um increased compared to the ducati, so I'll have to save up for later maybe bricklink is a better option
The new "Engine" pieces are great for making a proper V8 with the old pistons and the new lobe and follower as an actual pushrod cam.
Wow good job man😊
Of the three recent small motorcycles, I only have the Ducati, but I really enjoy it for it's gearbox. I was excited for this set upon seeing it would have a similar gearbox, but to me it looks a bit too wonky compared to the old solution. I think I agree that this motorcycle looks better, but I will probably wait a bit before picking it up.
@RacingBrick, i seem to recall the ducatti launching at €55, not €70, that price came from the price hikes a year or two back.
Generally speaking, im not a big fan of the new engine parts, they are still not a proper representation of the real thing, and if it leads to price madness like this... If i find this set cheap enough i might buy it and convert it to a 2 cylinder with the proper engine bits.
I checked the prices on Brickset, that might be the price it retired with
@@RacingBrickI got the Ducati on release day from the Lego website at £54.99. This at £69.99 seems overpriced even with inflation taking into consideration. Won’t be buying unless it goes on sale.
At least we can make a compact boxer engine
@@Lucianohlegomocs you can make a compact 180 degree V engine, not a boxer ;)
As much as I enjoy the scale of these bikes, this one looks insanely intermediate next to the others. The gear box looks to have a better functionality than the previous two bikes though the new engine solution isn't much of an improvement over wither the pushrod or piston driven engines. Bike looks fantastic though and nice to see a better windshield piece for this scale. Looking forward to the space set reviews.
I JUST finished building this set. I did not have any problems with the gearbox changing throughout the gears, though when shifting upwards, it gets stuck a little bit. I think you might have made a mistake.
I bought this, my first Technic set. I hope this review determines it's a good set. It was very expensive. I will build it soon.
I think these new engine parts will solve issues of the old style either sticking in place or not falling back down due to friction but as some have mentioned the lack of noise is a detracting point for them
Wouldn't it be amazing if the Batcycle had a gearbox? I have one.
Dream bike;)
I know nothing about Technic but I enjoyed the review!
I got the senna set yesterday
This is my favorite set of 2024
Finally ❤
I had to get it! Interestingly it even has parts made to look like the supercharger and supercharger intake. Weirdly the pistons move in a crossplane configuration, which I'm pretty sure it's wrong
Thanks. Ordered mine yesterday. I collect Technic motorcycles and have all of them. In the standard scale the Ducati is the best one although that might change once the Kawasaki arrives. The batcycle whilst well done was pretty boring. The previous Batpod was a much more visually impressive model.
I have Ducati and got Kawasaki yesterday. To me they are both equally great. Kawasaki has this great kick-stand, much, much better than the stand for Ducati.
Enjoy your build when it arrives!
🫢Ducati in 3rd place?!?🥉 How dare you!!! 😉Love your reviews!
When is the technic VTOL review comong out I really want to know if its good ir not
8:19 Sariel already published a creative useage! :)
It's a nice model and certainly fits in with the rest of the Technic bikes that we have had at this scale. However, I do wish that they had made more of the engine. Afterall the fact that the H2R is supercharged was always one of the big marketing points of the bike and it doesn't really get much mention here.
I have trouble shifting from first gear into neutral. The knob gear is supposed to push down the lift arm, but instead it usually just runs into it and won't budge. Occasionally it pushes down the arm as intended.
Okay I removed and re-attached the rubber piece and now it works better.
Great video very tempted to get this model now.
You did forgot about the Lego 42063 BMW R 1200 GS Adventure which is at the same scale.
Didn't forget about it, there were even more similarly scaled motorcycle sets before that one, I only mentioned the recent sets
Thank you, Balazs for a request
Seems like there's quite a bit of friction with those new engine pieces? Feels a bit like a solution for a problem that didn't really exist. That said, I can imagine the pieces being used for ather applications where gravity alone wouldn't do the trick.
Overall a decent model, and I might get it as a companion to my Ducati (which I liked much more than I expected), but it doesn't seem to be an improvement over that one.
For those who don’t know, the H2R is THE piss missile sport bike. Surprised they didn’t make it in the scale of the M1000RR with how famous this bike is, but I don’t mind the lower price point over something like that. I honestly love how it came together, but wish there weren’t so many exposed red/blue/yellow pieces throughout the model. When will Lego use color matching pegs🤦🏻♂️ as an impulse purchase, now I have to find a place to put it in my very overcrowded Lego collection
Add some scrapes to the fairings on that bike and it would match the 250 Ninja rode by someone I knew that laid it down from a wind incident. This crotch rocket prostate checker does have the typical 4 banger inline engine that most sports bikes have. I would like a sound block instead of a Batmobile light brick. Now that I think about it, why not add a lime green light to the bike and add a sound block for the engine RPM exhaust note? That would be neat. It looks like they used a cam shaft for a crank shaft. Oh well. Those clicking engines actually make a sound that almost sounds like the firings of the spark plugs of the real deal, with a little imagination. LOL I did buy this set, and I own the BMW 1:5 and the Yamaha 1:5. I ride the 1:1 bikes, cruisers, no sport models. I don't mind building the sports bikes. I wish Lego would come up with a trike motorized R/C. That could be fun. Develop a Can-Am Spyder ride. Full dress with the touring package. I'd buy that, build it, and drive it around outside.
There's also the bmw 1200 gsa on that scale
The fact they made the wheels narrow and wide on this model drives me even crazier about the Senna set being all the same size.
This set seems pretty disappointing. However I am excited for more Kawasaki licensed sets. Hopefully they will make a Kawasaki dirt bike out of system peices.
The fact that they have different sizes wheels for these sets but not the formula 1 is crazy
I found the new Lamborghini huracan technical orange in the Lego builder app
Yayy
The new engine parts feel awfully specific, I don’t get why they didn’t use the old cam pieces with axles as pistons, or maybe the recent 3L frictionless pins.
I believe they added these parts instead of using old cam pieces with axles since the axle pistons don't work when at an angle and cars sit upright but motorcycles usually lean and the engine wont work if they added axles since the axles will be floating causing the engine to not work.
@@iamgeek01also we can make a boxer engine now 😉
@@Lucianohlegomocs and an upside-down V-engine :)
@iamgeek01 Yep. That seems to be the reason. The new solution doesn't need gravity.
In my country the Kawasaki is the same price as the planet sun thing (and I own the Ducati)
The new colour Lambo is here🎉
Hmm, it looks good but this range of Technic motorbike sets has just become far too expensive now. It's particularly awkward when the older but much larger Technic sets can be had for not much more than this Kawasaki set these days. It does feel a lot like the new pieces were introduced deliberately to avoid the feeling of déjà vu from the Ducati set in terms of the build process.
I still have the Ducati and I'm still happy with that; I've not gone for the Batcycle due to lack of interest, but that is currently almost HALF the price of the Kawasaki set in the UK which is absolute steal by comparison. As long as you like the look of it of course!
There are not only 3 bikes in the same scale, the new Kawasaki, the Ducati and the "Batbike", there are actually 5.
There is also the Lego 42007 Moto Cross Bike (2013) and the Lego 42063 BMW R 1200 GS Adventure (2017).
I didn't say there were only 3, but these were the recent ones. Btw if you want to go back in history, there's much more. 42036, 8051, and a whole bunch of other "fantasy" bikes.
I own the Ducati and I've built the Batcycle, and I am honestly confused as to why you prefer the Batcycle. The Ducati was a landmark in that it was the first Technic motorcycle ever to have a gearbox, and the fact that they left it out of the Batcycle felt unfair.
To me, the Ducati is the most satisfying Technic motorcycle ever built. I also own the BMW M1000RR, but I find myself returning to the Ducati when I get that building itch because it's technically challenging with some delightful functionality, without being overwhelming.
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I was literally about to sleep then this video pops up
Literally??
If they can put a proper gearbox in this, why can't they do it in that huge Mercedes F1 car? Anyway I didn't know this set was going to be a thing, but it looks like one I might want to pick up. I'm not hugely into motorcycles but Lego motorcycles are fun, and I really liked my Lego BMW motorcycle set from a few years back, as well as my Vespa sets. Been wanting another Technic set with a transmission as well, and I'm curious about those new engine pieces.
The transmission in this set is actually bad. It jams when it doesn't need to and if you test the Kawasaki, sometimes 1st gear will cause the wheel to somewhat get stuck. Although they definitely can fit one into the Mercedes, I think its because of costs and laziness.
No Harley?
In this scale there was also BMW R1200GS
Too old
is paper bags only come in europe?
It depends on the factory the set comes from
@@RacingBrick that’s neat, just recently picked it up and it had clear bags
3:19 That L-part in the stepper mechanism isn't meant to get pushed down. It should be pushed upwards with each gear change. Fix that and the stepper works fine.
So you only shift gears in one direction?
@@RacingBrickNo, the L-part moves upwards regardless of which way you are shifting.
@@adrianbarbour5098 the black knob gear rotates in different directions if you shift up or down. Why would the stepper move only in one direction?
@@RacingBrickThe stepper is just there for resistance, so how it moves is irrelevant to gear changing. But the problem you show in the video only occurs because that L-beam is wrongly getting pushed downwards. This might be due to the alignment of the flexible rubber bit on the other side, but if you adjust it so the L-part only moves upwards when gear-changing in either direction, it all works perfectly.
There's nothing to adjust with the rubber piece.
im watching max verstappen pull away
this may be the closest to owning an H2R that I’ll ever be 😅
Good pick for sale price, 80€ is too much imo
They should have this kind of windshield on the ducati. I sold it just because of that stupid windshield "holding" by 2 swords.
to be honest why do they keep adding colorful random pieces, it literally looks like I build the bike out of my spare pieces
No one ever really shows the bmw r1200 gsa next to the new ones
I have a Ducatti bike and I think, that new Kawasaki is just another bike in this scale - nothing more. Gearbox - the same. Suspension - the same. Wheels - the same. Engine? I prefer classic one on Ducatti. Windsreen? Ok, Kawasaki won here. But Ducatti has a nice easter egg with samurai blades :-)
Needs brake calipers.
I don't see how these new pistons make sense because you could never transfer the movement the other way around like in a real motor, from the pistons to the wheel and axel. So it seems a lot more gimmicky.
I think I like the BMW bike better.
I mean, it's not really comparable as the BMW bike is drastically larger and drastically more costly than this.
@@AHYL88Yeah fair point. Maybe that's why....
I'm still not a fan of these bogus solutions for small engines.
The cam itself might be interesting, but with only 1/2 stud difference between top dead center and bottom dead center, maybe not.
I believe such a famous bike with the title of superbike deserved a far more large scale build with more detail. Much alike the M1000-RR. certainly not worth $80
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Balash can you do me a favour and sort out that black spot on your table. I keep trying to wipe it off my iPad. Ta
Why why why there needs to be a front mud guard this and the Ducati look bear and open.😢
Honestly I think this set might be the weakest of the vehicle sets in March. The new pistons are pretty interesting, but i still prefer Ducati way more.
Kawasaki...
The only improvement this kit has is the paper bag
It really bothers me that the engine is incorrect... either they got it wrong and you followed them, or you just got it wrong 😂😭 piston 1 &4 should be up when 2&3 are down and vice versa
That's not what the manual says :)
@@RacingBrick yea, the manual is horribly incorrect on the accuracy of the engine.
From left to right, (in any facing direction) it should be up, down, down, up.
Just something I noticed and I'd fix myself if I got one😂
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Happy Birthday!
@@RacingBrick thank you
who knows the average time taken to complete the building for a guy ?
I don't think the price is justified, and someone is going to tell me that's the price for the new molds.
My response: the new parts aren't worth it. The new circular parts are not in system so it'll be a nightmare dealing with them, the new pistons don't offer much more realism than any previously used representation, and while the windscreen is actually cool, it won't be used ever again for any other model because of the specificity of the shape. All in all, it's a good set, it has all that you need for a technic motorcycle at this scale, but the price is way too high, I'd take it for 60 max, 50 is OK...
I think the one from cogo is better. The green part of it is IDENTICLE to the real one.😅😅😅😂
Annoying that the gear selector is still effectively facing backwards.
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Spoilt again by having no front mudguard 🙄 You forgot the BMW 1200gs which is the same scale
For this set, i would pay 30$, fine, but 80? Tf
Ducati >>>>> is more functional and it has a good engine
Its too small... they should have made it as big as the BMW and i would have bought it instantly
I find this new trend of replacing proper crankshafts, pistons and cylinders with some tiny cams and axles really lame and cheap from Lego. Are we supposed to believe some yellow pins moving up and down on cams represent an engine?
I don't think there's a problem with this until it is done with existing LEGO pieces. There were no proper pistons, rods and cams for small-scale vehicles, so there was an approximation with small beams, the old large cam piece, axles with stop or pins. LEGO is always a simplification of real-life mechanisms, if they use what they have in the inventory to replicate a function then it is fine.
But the new parts don't make the small-scale engines more realistic at all, the only benefit is having moving "pistons" if they are placed sideways or upside down, I don't think either that can be called a real progress.
@@RacingBrickYeap, I would rather they build a 1 or 2 cylinder engine in the same place with proper cylinders (like my old 8422 motorcycle) instead of a 4 piston engine out of axles, and I wouldn't care even if the real bike has 4 cylinders. They can't claim they try to be realistic by implementing the original engine layout, when each cylinder is just an axle moving up and down. They have been doing this even in large models where there is no space constraints, like the Tow Truck or the Land Rover Defender.
I thought it's technically just a Panigale in another colour, but it's absolutely different snd now i'm gonna buy it.
Ps I've bought Panigale for 35$ 2 years ago. Prices have increased so bad for this 2 years... ☹️
the old ducati looks better lol
I have the ducati and I also got the kawasaki but I it is not as good as the ducati in my opinion not worth and the price is a killind machine Whoever has the ducati just dont buy the kawasaki
Ducati looks way better than this
Im motorcylist and lego fans. Thiis H2R Lego set very terrible, not even look like H2R.
Love motorbikes... This is ridiculous... Looks ugly. Most Chinese sets looks better. Lego is really disappointing. Price is ridiculous too. This "thing" is not an h2r... Is a bike that crushed against a wall...even Panigale was ugly...prefer set without licenses if these are the results..
Lego is just a joke.