THE TRUE STORY BEHIND THE DEATH OF BURY FC! |
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- The latest episode of Journeymen takes us to Bury FC, a historic club ripped apart by the actions of owner Steve Dale and others, and taken from its fans after being expelled from the EFL.
James & Michael speak to the fans who have been fighting to save what is left of their beloved club, and find out how it got to this stage.
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How would you feel if your football club faced liquidation?!
Depressed
Happened once already as a Wimbledon fan . The EFL is shit
Seen it happen with my local club York. The EFL need to revise the rules on who can buy a club to prevent asset strippers and other shady ownership.
I’m vert gotta be 😤
Probably happening at Everton for over spending
God I miss my club,Saturdays just arent the same! Been a bury fan since 1987,my first love was bury fc 💙💙
Really sorry for you, no-one deserves this
Sad for you I wasn't old enough to rember but that almost happened to my club lucky someone who wasn't like Steve Dale saved us
@Colin Norman Its a good idea, but people like that will never feel shame as they have their life sorted! Its a shame to see how much money is involved in football at the top when the best football is played in the lower league's
Daz Gee same 😭
Bro I'll be honest, if I had the money, I'd buy the club
It's a sad day for football. When a club Bury goes down hill like that.
As tough as it is losing a club, they lived beyond their means. The fans weren't crying on the last day of the season when they were going up...
@Richard Carpenter spent too much on players' wages. I was in the away end their last game and their fans weren't crying then.
dont think oldham will be involved in the football league much longer sorry to say.
@@andyroughyed3642 it's sad what's happening to some historical clubs. We protested to stop our toxic owner last season and managed to get him out.
@@liam4603 agree 100% with you liam, hope bury do find there way back really do, good luck.
Former Indian National football team captain Bhaichung Bhutia played for Bury FC a long time ago. It really feels very bad. I hope they come back. Love and Support from India.
Super proud of this episode - big up James for the outstanding edit 🔥
Felt a bit emotional watching it back too, which is testament to the love that exists between the fans and the club - massive thanks to everyone who spoke to us.
Keen to hear from you - let me know what you think of the vid👇
Michael McCubbin Fantastic video, you gave a great insight into our club #UTS
@@Josh-nb1rc Glad you enjoyed it - hope we did the subject the justice it deserves
@@Josh-nb1rc hahaha hi josh #fuckthefl #uts
@@MikeMcCub thanks me and josh had season. Ticket last year so we r really annoyed about the whole situation so thanks for bringing it to attention
Exeter City were almost in a similar situation many years ago until it become fan based. This is the way forward in football and sports.
15:46 I work as a trainer at the bike school based at Gigg Lane, and it's been awful to see how this has affected the Bury staff and several generations of fans. Literally grown men in tears at the heartbreak of losing their club. There was even a food collection at one point to help some of the people who weren't being paid; that's how serious this is! Personally I think it's a disgrace that regular folk like us can't get a mobile phone contract without a credit check, but people like that are able to destroy a club despite a previous record of such awful business ownership. I only hope they find a passionate and financially viable buyer, because these clubs are now part of the history of the country and should be treated with respect.
The strangest thing for me is the EFL's stance on chairman background checks before ownership is transferred. Apparently, they can't do it. Why? I'm genuinely curious. It's simple business protocol in any walk of life that potential owners are vetted and verified by accountants. Steve Dale did not have the money to own a football club. It's as simple as that. Madness.
Edit* - Amazing video btw, James and McCubbin, nice one lads.
Sonikks Because of sport washing sometimes terrorist supporting groups buy into sports clubs to gain legitimacy
You're right Sonikks, From what I've been told the test that potential chairmans take is basically a criminal records check (for the UK only)....and thats pretty much it. There is no check in to any sort of finances and I'm not even sure they check if a person is even real. Thats the only explanation I have for Ali al-Faraj being able to gain control of the team I support (Portsmouth), I mean the test 100% isn't enough thats for sure as I can name 5 owners just of Portsmouth! who were not fit to run a club they are: Alexander Gaydamak who owned the club as a front for his father Arcadi who has convictions for gun running, Sulaiman Al-Fahim who bought the club with money stolen from his wife and is now (apparently) in prison for this. The aformentioned Ali al-Faraj who is suspected of being a name created by Belram Chanrai to buy the club to get back at Arcadi Gaydamak. Vladimir Antonov who got the club then had to flee as he was being investigated for issues with a Lituanian bank. Finally there is Belram Chanrai himself, who bought the club and just started stripping assests from it left right and centre. Portsmouth were lucky that the fans saved the club and now have an owner who is very open and well known in Michael Eisner. I hope that Bury, Macclesfield, Bolton and any other clubs in trouble get the same luck as Portsmouth.
you dont need money to own a football club, there is no rule where you have to put your own money into a club. clubs should be funding themselves otherwise there is a possibility of going bust.
Bury & Gigg Lane was my first ever Away Day as a young football fan back in January 2012. Such a shame for Football
Shit like this hits hard because a few years ago, my hometown club (Portsmouth Football Club) nearly went bust.
Aldershot Town fan here. I want no one to suffer what we did in 1992 ... Stay strong Bury FC. I loved Gigg Lane ... proper ground.
Stay strong!
David Stockwell Yup, I agree.
Great job! I'm enjoying the longer format and it's cool to see the channel grow and take off in new directions.
Do it on non league teams like Worksop. Worlds 4th oldest football club who are weeks off liquidation. It’ll educate people that think non league is terrible and they’ll find out big, important and loved non league is.
My club Nuneaton. Holding Middlesbrough, that seasons Europa League runners up, in the FA Cup 3rd round. Liquidating and reforming 2 years later. 2 league demotion. 3 promotions in 4 years. Top of the national league 5 years after liquidating. Then it has all gone downhill since 2014. If you were to do this and speak to the right fans, it will be good and very educating.
Imagine how tough it is being a bury fan 😔
I am one
It's shit
Same here mate
code jynxx not as bad as being a United fan
Burt Banger_YT you get to watch football us bury fans don’t get to watch our team u clown
I remember the night they got liquidated in August, i cried that night, didn't eat the next day and i was listening to talkSPORT and Goldstein, Cundy and myself all felt slightly responsible even though we weren't. Horrible and chilling night
Tbf goldstein and cundy didn't care that much theyre in a pl bubble
UpTheRams have stupid
Sotb
Your a West brom fan? Why you cry?
@@harryjohnson8371 above all else I'm a fan of football meaning i care about other clubs
Thankyou for this! You've clearly done your research. I'd do anything to have my club back
3:50 i thought the guy was an amputee
I-Am Sax same
I thought the same when I lifted his hands I got shocked
You're not entirely wrong. Looks like he has some permanent wrist deformity, hence he hid his hands at the sides.... Poor guy. At least he has hands; can always put them in his pockets in public, to look cool.
Me too
He was the goalie.
Best videos on both channels along with stay wars, love this kind of thing, hope someone buys Bury or helps the community, seem like great and passionate people, wish them the best.
This is dark times for football! It shouldn’t be about the money! It should be about the FOOTBALL! And if the EFL can’t ensure teams like Bury aren’t suffocated by owners who can’t run the club, and criticise the fans for being passionate (great one Steve Dale), then what’s the point in having them! The footballing world will move on but the fans can’t - and this is what these footballing “big wigs” forget! And when they say the fans are what make football it’s true! Football isn’t just a sport, it’s a part of life for many of us!!!
Great video guys! Need more videos like these to show what being a real football fan is like! Keep it up
Cheers mate! We did a similar video on Notts County a few months back so check that out if you haven't already!
I love this, being a Manc myself I can relate to the hardship up here in footy. I love the documentary definitely need more of them. Keep up the good work lad (Y)
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it. We did similar docs on Notts County and Forest Green if you haven't checked them already!
You guys need to do more of these brilliant video ..
Great work guys. I'm in the south now so nowhere near Bury but wish them all the best and hope for the fans their club is reinstated but most importantly, reformed
As a Rochdale Fan it's sad we won't face them anymore the M66 Derby
I am a Rochdale fan too
I thought you were a Cambridge Utd fan?
@@michaelbarrymore5349 hahaha is that because of the player
@@lukechadwick578 I thought you were the player!!
United fans don't realise how good they've got it.
@Richard Carpenter I dont think you realise how much they put into the club?? If they were taking so much out you wouldnt be in the position you are in now with all your players facilities etc. Its virtually impossible to make a profit out of a football club never mind one as big as United.
Sam BWFC Glazers took £1B out. Man City owners put £1B in. That’s the difference.
@@TheDeathOrange bollocks
Sam BWFC it isn’t.
with the relationship man utd has had using gigg lane and the Training ground i can't believe utd didn't make them a brigde Loan. must be a reason
I feel sorry for the people of Bury... On a different note: I loved the video guys. I really love this series. I look forward to more videos like this.
Sad that Dale was even allowed to walk into Bury
My high school was in Bury and alot of peoole who live there love their club
Do a video about the club 'without a name' Steaua Bucharest, former UEFA Champions League winner.
MOGHiLEANU you’ve probably seen it by now if you know the story, but i think HITC did a video on them if you’re interested
Love the episode guys my favorite fb daily show keep up the content #journeyman
Amazing content. Good job 👏
Absolutely heartbreaking, if you don't like football you could just never understand how much a club can mean to you. So much empathy and respect for Bury fans, as an NUFC fan, our fanbase moan a lot, when you take a step back and look at a situation like this at Bury it puts it in perspective. Hope you come back in some form. A dark day for English football.
This kind of vid is wrealy awesome
Horribly sad what has happened to bury but this video was wonderful. ❤
I miss this club 💔 10 years of every home game and a number of away games and now it's gone
Same
This was excellent, very well done. 👍👍
So much of this stems from those buying their way to the top of the Premier League. This has spawned similar "buy your way up the lower and non-league sugar daddies" and it puts all the other less rich clubs into jeopardy as they try to keep up without the necessary finances. The biggest "sugar daddies" are still there at Chelsea and Man City but where the money has run out.... Good luck Bury fans; you'll be back!
Great episode guys 👏👏👏
Thanks lads.
All the best from a Blade.
Thanks for this video and showing how our club got ruined by incompetence from a few people
5:22 The whole buying the club for £1. That isn't the value of the club, in UK law to have a valid contract there needs to be something called 'consideration', basically money has to change hands. Therefore the contract has a nominal value of a £1 to make it valid. The true value of the club is probably negative
This one hurts. My ex lives in Bury. I always had a soft spot for Bury. It's really a sad day
I live in bury. All the places u were at I know, I could have meet u. Damn it
I always had a soft spot for Bury FC ; when visiting family in Warrington years ago I used to try and arrange a visit to Bury market so I could see Gigg Lane. It never happened but a few years ago I travelled with my Dad and Son to see Notts County humbled 2-0 by Bury. Loved the ground and the Bury fans were welcoming so news of their demise has hurt. You have to ask, does the FA give a toss about clubs like Bury? I guess the answer is no because if they did this club would have been in safer hands for the last few years.
My family are from bury I’m Australian and gutted to hear this news
This is a great video guys 👍🏻
What a sad story to hear😥
RIP our boys 💙😢
Even though i'm a Sunderland supporter, I genuinely feel so so so sorry for the fans, players and coaching staff associated with Bury fc as they were royally screwed over by a catastrophic and atrocious mismanagement of finances and i hope one day Bury will be back
Brilliant video!
Every team should get behind this
I wish I had had the money at the time this happened. No football club should suffer this fate. I can’t believe that the money wasn’t found to save them. Compared to the premier league the money needed to save them was peanuts. To get promoted against the backdrop of all that was going on was brilliant. Unfortunately though it might only be the start. If it could happen to Glasgow rangers then it could happen to any club in the EFL.
Rangers should have paid Hector
Excellent video
I would be committed to playing for the club
It’s very sad that owners and directors don’t understand that a football club is some people’s life and life line it gives them hope and is like a family member
Being a Luton fan ,I fully appreciate how things can go very wrong. All that history tragically erased by a couple of incompetent owners.
I don’t know them but i love football it’s sad seen football club die
Why the keys of the Macbook look so odd?
Everyone in Bury support United or City anyway. For years the town has barely given the football team any support and now all of a sudden they care?
It's very much the same here in Horwich/Bolton. But no matter what we would have been devastated to lose the club. The club has fallen from such great heights and like United at the moment has been let down by the board.
That disrespects the people who still loyally support the club. Even if they are 300 strong, they still have backbone to support their now small club.
@2:31 You forgot to add they weren't the first team to win the FA Cup without conceeding a single goal.
Turning the club part time in that summer would have saved the club. They may have saved enough to clear debts and turn professional the following season.
Oh dear, at min 17:17 Rangers v Bury scarf. Both clubs went bust and both sold for a £, at least the Bury fans accept the fact that it was their own clubs failures that done the damage. Unlike rangers who blame every other club in Scotland for their demise. Good luck to bury in the future 👍
Aye, but rangers fans showed liquidation the red card. lmfao
With all the money swilling around in the premier league your telling me that each club couldn’t have donated £100,000 to save bury. Or any other club that might face the same problem in the future. It’s all wrong.
Hms I wasn’t aware of that. It seems stupid that a small amount isn’t allowed to be given by a premier league club to a lower league club. That amount which is peanuts to a premier league club could be the difference between the smaller club staying in business or not. Makes me sick.
Hms I must admit they could have given bury some money somehow to save them.
Hms all I know is that a lot more could and should have been done to save them. That it wasn’t done tells you all you need to know about how English football is going.
I have thought this for a while now. The league with it's elite clubs and the rest feeding them their talent has too stop. We have too many clubs who like Bury do not have the fan base to operate and be successful. We need too combine small clubs into larger ones. I know this will sound like the end of the world too some but it is the only way forward.
What I find sad is that is that the obscenely rich EPL clubs couldn't step in to help, would've been small change for them. One of the big Manchester clubs (or both at the same time) would've been the obvious choice. I know it's business but there should always be room for some humanity/charity. (and I thought my club West Ham United was in a state...). I hope Bury rise again, good luck.
You tube "golden Gordon"...it's Michael Palin's ripping yarns...about his local club barnstonworth. united, going bust...set in the depression of the 30s...it's very sad and very funny at the same time...but it echoes exactly what happened to bury fc.......give it a watch
Disgraceful that this was allowed to happen,some great games over the years #trfc #buryfc
9:48 oh shit that’s me
Anyone else see McCubs at the Wasabi at waterloo??
I remember walking out with bury players
Looks like it'll be Charlton next 😞
Peter limm bought salford city along with the class of 92. I wonder if they looked at bury before salford?
Well done lads👍🏻✌🏻🤘🏻
absolutely disgusting how that club has been run.. hopefully they can return ( Derby County)
DeanMrsteele Steele rooneyyyy
Thoroughly interesting
such a shame about the club. glad for the fans clubbing together
Love this
Cannot wait for AFC Bury.
#BringBackBury
2:21 shaqiri and godin
Rip Bury
🙏
Fact: Teams are buying players for £70m,£80m & give him £8m a season wage-wise yet Bury need just £3m to survive is mental
Its sad but they same could happen to Barnet
The thing use that I'm very familiar with bury I go there alot I live near it
Bury problems is there to many other clubs around a 50 mile radius and bigger clubs get more bums on seats parents should take there kids when they are young cos that way it brings the next generation of younger fans been life long fans.u ask any kid where there 1 match was. And im sure them kids now adults are still watching the team they 1st when to see all them years ago my 1st game was at leeds utd and i been a fan for 45 years dont go to much now but still like to see how there are doing with results
As for bury fc i do feel for u guys the fans and those people whom put 30 two 40 years into the club ie backroom staff whom when without pay 4 a while
We need smaller clubs in the leage hope someone comes in and buys the club and can bring back to good old days for u bury fans hope things go ok in the future long live bury fc
It will cost the clubs money, but getting tickets to kids in schools can help smaller clubs.
And to think about big clubs spending over 100m on players like neymar, RIP BURY
Oh shit he has hands
As a bolton fan in some ways i feel sorry for them but they were also giving us shit when our club first hit the shit
Waking up on a saturday with no football to go and watch is awful
In this case the club and the fans were not protected by the business laws of the country, and the FA or/and league.
You see these Man Utd fans outside woodwards house demanding there club back when there 7th in prem spending 70 mil+ on players. Then you have the fans of Leyton Orient, Bury, Bolton, Portsmouth etc who have seen a real struggle but still get behind the team and the manager. Real fans
Jack Veall why would u want 2 support a prem team what’s 4 hours away when u can support your local would never support a prem team Leyton Orient till I die
@@dt485 Im a Sheff United fan. Bar these last 3 years we've had a terrible last 10 years but the majority stuck it out. Glad you're lot are back in the EFL. Especially after all that with Beccheti
Jack Veall are clubs don’t deserve it clubs like Salford do and they are scum
Greater Manchester has two excellent Premier League teams, no question, but outside of that it’s a wasteland, no teams in the Championship and three teams gone bankrupt in the last year. In the West Midlands we have three Premier League teams and two teams in the Championship, I’d rather have our situation any day of the week.
Birmingham City have had great owners in recent times ah.
Bad ownership and hopefully fa makes it harder to buy and sell a ground has to be a good thing
The ground is still there I will bye it and take it over.
That's what needs to happen and the efl need to make it happen
Unfortunately you need severe financial rules or half of the clubs will go bankrupt
Some of that money from Manchester city's fine should be used to get them bk up and running again with rest going to other smaller clubs with financial issues.
I live in bury
Cool Somehow Bury FC was in the league two but fell into non league football
Lack of bums on seats ???? where were the supporter during games ???
@OGU SPRUCY yes they do you cant do whet they did and get away with it im glad they have fucked off
@@danielkerr4100 if there was an award for the biggest twat you'd win it hand,s down
Sad isn’t it