Hey Ted, FYI, you can have Y1 landed for single stage AC on those and you will still get High fan speed. A jumper between W1 and W2 is more critical as it will upstage to second stage heat in 10 minutes or to a field selectable timeframe. Says so on both, page 56 of the install manual.
Mr Ted Cook my brother! 28 year Hvac mechanic here, I just worked on this same exact Trane unit this past Friday. As soon as you had error code 3.2 pressure switch stuck open I knew what it was!! My issue was a could smell the inducer motor burnin up (you know the electrical burnout smell-Magic smoke!) and it was boiling to the touch. Easy diagnostic on that!! Also why isn’t that aprilaire 1850 dehumidifier ducted in? Plus why they leave the shipping bracket and cable ties on the inlet?? I had an installer completely butcher an install of an 1850 100 pint last week. Airflow wrong direction. Top inlet and didn’t even bother to move cover plate to back or remove bracket. Client complained about the noise it was making. Also he didn’t interlock it to furnace for blower control!!! Nice. These days thou it’s ok, hard to replace techs these days. Even before covid. I get it’s a difficult field but you can make a great living. I been pulling ot since April. Hey great channel! I like your laid back style. It’s how I always try and be. My motto is…Don’t Be A Fu**ing Hack!!! Do your job. If you gotta think about it just do it!!! People pay a lot of money for our services! Sorry for the novel! Be well and keep up the great videos!!!
My Trane had a clogged condensation drain and froze up the A coil and water backed up and drained down onto the board thru screw holes and fried the board. The repair tech never found why it froze. I found it by watching your videos. Unclogged the drain, redesigned it like your videos, and sealed the screw holes above with rtv. Been 2 years good. Thank you!
Hey Ted. I’m glad your making videos again. I did cringe when you plugged that in with power. I had to replace boards bc of molex plugs shorting out the board. Once you kill power you need to wait til all lights are off and caps are de charged. Then you can unplug and test. Great work and great content
I have seen those units be in made in Trenton New Jersey at the manufacturing plant for train an American standard. They have those boards packed in boxes on the assembly floor. They would not let us reach in and take a few for samples. Love your videos
No big deal, Ted on the inducer hook up. It's a human tradition to make mistakes. You got them heat on a Sunday. Good on you for covering for a friend . Thxs for the vids!
I've seen this same issue with the motor bearings freezing up on on these inducer fans. It's a lubrication problem with the sleeve bearings. Some sort of mung is created from the acidic condensate fumes on the front bearing. It's pretty simple to tear them down to where you can put some synthetic oil on the bearings.
Amazing. How long have inducer fans been around? And Trane screwed the pooch on the bushings of the motor? Hard to believe. Are the motors imported from China, or is the whole furnace from there?
Good video Ted. Seems your a good friend to have. You’ve done a few videos that have you helping out another heating and cooling fella. Trane furnaces seem to me to be pretty temperamental . That frozen vent motor issue could likely be solved by installing a drain port on the bottom of the motor housing. I’ve seen it on other brands over the years, generally furnaces are shipped for top discharge and instructions are given for horizontal left or right installations. This being a top discharge why would someone reroute the pressure switch tubing? Either way I enjoy your videos just not a fan of Trane equipment. Your friend owes you a dinner at least. 👍🇨🇦
Hey Ted just had one Friday S9V2 with no LED display...... Bad board replaced it and fixed the issue I have noticed the older part number had came with it originally I believe older board they revised it then superseded the new board cnt8000 series they found the mistakes we had no issues with the new superseded boards
Looks like there was a fire -- or the old unit caught on fire ? The floor joists above look like they've been painted / sealed and new joists sistered on ?
Did one of those last spring,somehow a chipmunk got into the condensor outside wedged hinself in their and decided to eat high voltage wires while touching the low voltage wires,and sent a little bit back to the board!
Be sure to look for Ghost watermarks coming from the inducer down to the control board those crappy fasco inducers are coming apart at the housing and leaking onto the control boards left and right
I'm telling you I replaced the blue ton of those inducers under warranty just because they froze in front of a customer then the customer doesn't trust them all you got to do is give them a boost one time and then they don't give you any trouble for the rest of the season
Do you send those boards back for re-furb or just chuck them? (for the out of warranty boards) And I keep laughing at your "induced draft" notes... I've been there man...Any chance that screw from the weirdly installed pressure sensor is in too far and was locking up the blowers?
probably just sitting wouldn't take much probably should have a system where the motor is spun up ever week just for a few seconds to prevent it happening when not used in summer
Question I have same system except mine is v2 I installed reme halo air purifier that come with 24v transformer I got the part where two wires connect to air purifier but the other 24 black/white where do I connect that to needs to be on 24/7
Motors have packing holding oil then 2 oilite bronze bearings..the bearings dry lack of oil seize to shaft.. scores it leaves residue.. I took mine apart..But it cranks at 4k speed thats fast..should be a lubable motor.. planned to fail,..
Oh my god! Now furnaces have a Personality too???? I got caught on this one installing a new dishwasher for my sister. She got a bad main board (Yeah, now dishwashers have mainboards too) from the factory. I put in the new board hooked her up, snd nothing. My Ladyfriend is reading the installation in structions and says " Did you set the personality?" Of course i said " you gotta be shitting me right"? Nope, that was it. I had not set the personality dip switches. NOTHING is straightforward any more
I think every video on this channel is fantastic. But I pondered on this thought. For a channel that promotes Trane, which I respect. How come almost every video is a service call fixing a failed Trane. I'm sure its great for business fixing Trane. Shouldn't the channel be about installing new Trane HVAC systems replacing other brands that failed. So I went with Lennox.
You're seeing the results of literally 1000s and 1000s of systems installed and what few failures we have.... we sell about 325 to 350 systems per year. Our warranty stats are GREAT.... we service and repair all makes and Lennox has become one of the worst. Sorry but that is a true statistic. Thank You for watching !!
Does a big house with system charge the same for service as a small house with small system? These people that want to heat and cool a bunch of rooms like they use them everyday need to be charged more for the service provided.
More crap bearings in motors made these days...bushings vs. real engineered ball bearings. Good call by Ted once again. I heard from a few HVAC techs its fair to use a single stage condenser with a two stage heater/air handler with the correct low volt wiring. Is that true?
Why don't all furnaces have a large viewing window on the covers instead of a tiny round one that isn't even over the error lights? And also, a viewing window to the burners when the cover is attached? Modern furnaces seem to be overly complicated, built to fail and made to discourage repair!
It would be cool if you'd invest in a chest mounted camera. It hurts to watch a qualified service tech and owner of the company struggle with one hand while trying to film with the other on a cell phone no doubt.
Have you seen "The DIY HVAC Guy" Think he is getting viewers by using a close match to your channel name! 9K subscribers in less than a year! A lot to be said for a young kid trying to get a start!
Hey Ted, FYI, you can have Y1 landed for single stage AC on those and you will still get High fan speed. A jumper between W1 and W2 is more critical as it will upstage to second stage heat in 10 minutes or to a field selectable timeframe. Says so on both, page 56 of the install manual.
Mr Ted Cook my brother! 28 year Hvac mechanic here, I just worked on this same exact Trane unit this past Friday. As soon as you had error code 3.2 pressure switch stuck open I knew what it was!! My issue was a could smell the inducer motor burnin up (you know the electrical burnout smell-Magic smoke!) and it was boiling to the touch. Easy diagnostic on that!! Also why isn’t that aprilaire 1850 dehumidifier ducted in? Plus why they leave the shipping bracket and cable ties on the inlet?? I had an installer completely butcher an install of an 1850 100 pint last week. Airflow wrong direction. Top inlet and didn’t even bother to move cover plate to back or remove bracket. Client complained about the noise it was making. Also he didn’t interlock it to furnace for blower control!!! Nice. These days thou it’s ok, hard to replace techs these days. Even before covid. I get it’s a difficult field but you can make a great living. I been pulling ot since April. Hey great channel! I like your laid back style. It’s how I always try and be. My motto is…Don’t Be A Fu**ing Hack!!! Do your job. If you gotta think about it just do it!!! People pay a lot of money for our services! Sorry for the novel! Be well and keep up the great videos!!!
I was told by my April aire rep that they don’t work any better or worse when ducted in. Humidity level in the home will reach equilibrium on its own.
My Trane had a clogged condensation drain and froze up the A coil and water backed up and drained down onto the board thru screw holes and fried the board.
The repair tech never found why it froze.
I found it by watching your videos.
Unclogged the drain, redesigned it like your videos, and sealed the screw holes above with rtv.
Been 2 years good.
Thank you!
Hey Ted. I’m glad your making videos again. I did cringe when you plugged that in with power. I had to replace boards bc of molex plugs shorting out the board. Once you kill power you need to wait til all lights are off and caps are de charged. Then you can unplug and test. Great work and great content
I have seen those units be in made in Trenton New Jersey at the manufacturing plant for train an American standard. They have those boards packed in boxes on the assembly floor. They would not let us reach in and take a few for samples. Love your videos
G'day Mr. Cook - best wishes from Australia !!
No big deal, Ted on the inducer hook up. It's a human tradition to make mistakes. You got them heat on a Sunday. Good on you for covering for a friend . Thxs for the vids!
Well done Ted, your a good friend to have, i hope your friend gets well soon 👍
My second stage was never connected for the very same reason. Nice job!
I think I'm moving to Greenville, I hear it's nice there.
I've seen this same issue with the motor bearings freezing up on on these inducer fans. It's a lubrication problem with the sleeve bearings. Some sort of mung is created from the acidic condensate fumes on the front bearing. It's pretty simple to tear them down to where you can put some synthetic oil on the bearings.
Amazing. How long have inducer fans been around? And Trane screwed the pooch on the bushings of the motor? Hard to believe. Are the motors imported from China, or is the whole furnace from there?
Good video Ted. Seems your a good friend to have. You’ve done a few videos that have you helping out another heating and cooling fella. Trane furnaces seem to me to be pretty temperamental . That frozen vent motor issue could likely be solved by installing a drain port on the bottom of the motor housing. I’ve seen it on other brands over the years, generally furnaces are shipped for top discharge and instructions are given for horizontal left or right installations. This being a top discharge why would someone reroute the pressure switch tubing? Either way I enjoy your videos just not a fan of Trane equipment. Your friend owes you a dinner at least. 👍🇨🇦
Ted "The Air Bear" Cook 😎👍
Good little vid and good little fix ... Thx for posting ... Zsa would be proud 🤣😅😂
Hey Ted just had one Friday S9V2 with no LED display...... Bad board replaced it and fixed the issue I have noticed the older part number had came with it originally I believe older board they revised it then superseded the new board cnt8000 series they found the mistakes we had no issues with the new superseded boards
Do you remove the shipping bracket when you install an Aprilaire dehumidifier?
Is there an option to add a drop or two of oil/lube on those high friction bushings/bearings ?
It's the water. different municipalities use different chemicals depending on their needs.
Some people are sensitive
@Anti Diy HVAC trying to sell my house now. I'll be there at the beginning of December if all goes well. Keep up the content!
Looks like there was a fire -- or the old unit caught on fire ? The floor joists above look like they've been painted / sealed and new joists sistered on ?
Great informative video
Ted, what about that switch you said wasn’t installed correctly? Was it important?
That board and trane gaspack inducer fan are two of the most common problem with trane ive found so many bad ones I keep two of each on my van
Man you got a lot of dust/etc flying around in your video. Good fix
Did one of those last spring,somehow a chipmunk got into the condensor outside wedged hinself in their and decided to eat high voltage wires while touching the low voltage wires,and sent a little bit back to the board!
Be sure to look for Ghost watermarks coming from the inducer down to the control board those crappy fasco inducers are coming apart at the housing and leaking onto the control boards left and right
I'm telling you I replaced the blue ton of those inducers under warranty just because they froze in front of a customer then the customer doesn't trust them all you got to do is give them a boost one time and then they don't give you any trouble for the rest of the season
Replaced a bunch of those motors and boards on s9s that didn’t have rain gutters in the intake pipes.
Do you send those boards back for re-furb or just chuck them? (for the out of warranty boards) And I keep laughing at your "induced draft" notes... I've been there man...Any chance that screw from the weirdly installed pressure sensor is in too far and was locking up the blowers?
Lost my S9V2 board last year. Just displayed “Idle” constantly…same year the inducer fan assembly was replaced. Unit is 5 years old…
Ted, what does the bk terminal do?
I wonder what is causing those motors to seize like that? Great video
probably just sitting wouldn't take much probably should have a system where the motor is spun up ever week just for a few seconds to prevent it happening when not used in summer
Nothing wrong with your channel name; it makes a good point. Should you ever get tired of it, might I suggest "The Trane Whisperer?"
Looks like they made that board easy to change for a reason?
Question I have same system except mine is v2 I installed reme halo air purifier that come with 24v transformer I got the part where two wires connect to air purifier but the other 24 black/white where do I connect that to needs to be on 24/7
I have the same furnace and my board went in the second heating season.
I also install these furnaces and have had bad boards right from the factory
Ted, this furnace looks like it has 2 transformers. One of them looks like it only has 2 wires coming from it. What is this?
Dawn dish soap or gas leak detector will help get rubber connectors go on easy .
Ted what ‘s up with the race car have not seen anything hope all is well Happy Thanksgiving
Would bet money that unit has an exhaust termination next to/near and at the same level as the intake. Or a concentric kit.
I have been that dummy more than once. I feel ya.
A bic ink pen with the insides removed will fit onto those stand offs and press them the board will slide right off
Motors have packing holding oil then 2 oilite bronze bearings..the bearings dry lack of oil seize to shaft.. scores it leaves residue.. I took mine apart..But it cranks at 4k speed thats fast..should be a lubable motor.. planned to fail,..
Oh my god! Now furnaces have a Personality too???? I got caught on this one installing a new dishwasher for my sister. She got a bad main board (Yeah, now dishwashers have mainboards too) from the factory. I put in the new board hooked her up, snd nothing. My Ladyfriend is reading the installation in structions and says " Did you set the personality?" Of course i said " you gotta be shitting me right"? Nope, that was it. I had not set the personality dip switches. NOTHING is straightforward any more
I think every video on this channel is fantastic. But I pondered on this thought. For a channel that promotes Trane, which I respect. How come almost every video is a service call fixing a failed Trane. I'm sure its great for business fixing Trane. Shouldn't the channel be about installing new Trane HVAC systems replacing other brands that failed. So I went with Lennox.
You're seeing the results of literally 1000s and 1000s of systems installed and what few failures we have.... we sell about 325 to 350 systems per year. Our warranty stats are GREAT.... we service and repair all makes and Lennox has become one of the worst. Sorry but that is a true statistic. Thank You for watching !!
Out of the norm for you Ted in the few hiccups. A couple of drinks on a Sunday before the service? 😉. J/k
Most furnaces turn in second stage heat with a time delay
Does a big house with system charge the same for service as a small house with small system? These people that want to heat and cool a bunch of rooms like they use them everyday need to be charged more for the service provided.
Size of the system doesn't matter. Number of units being serviced at one time does change the price
More crap bearings in motors made these days...bushings vs. real engineered ball bearings. Good call by Ted once again. I heard from a few HVAC techs its fair to use a single stage condenser with a two stage heater/air handler with the correct low volt wiring. Is that true?
Sup mr ted
Why don't all furnaces have a large viewing window on the covers instead of a tiny round one that isn't even over the error lights? And also, a viewing window to the burners when the cover is attached? Modern furnaces seem to be overly complicated, built to fail and made to discourage repair!
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
11:11 When that connector sparked. It probably killed the board.
lol at "">>> look dummy"", it happens to everyone 🤣
That whole install is a mess. condensate hoses need to be trimmed, wonder if the old board got water on it. Drain doesn't have a clamp on it.
that is why i unplug then plug in one connection at a time.
It would be cool if you'd invest in a chest mounted camera. It hurts to watch a qualified service tech and owner of the company struggle with one hand while trying to film with the other on a cell phone no doubt.
its hard to stop a train!!! no it aint engineers and installers do it everyday!!!
And the bottoms are a joke have to tape them so they don't rattle
😂😂
Have you seen "The DIY HVAC Guy" Think he is getting viewers by using a close match to your channel name! 9K subscribers in less than a year! A lot to be said for a young kid trying to get a start!
I like how you crap on other companies installs but since it's your buddy, you turn a blind eye to the install issues that it had.
I did point out it was wired wrong.