Do All Chelsea Fans Think The Same?

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  • @ztv8905
    @ztv8905 Před 7 měsíci +196

    I don't how you feel about Havertz time at Chelsea, didn't live up to the expectations but saying he did nothing is wild. He gave us a night to never forget in the UCL final, thats something!

    • @hddh3221
      @hddh3221 Před 7 měsíci +11

      He scored an open goal🤣🤣if ederson never touched it that was going out. kante is the reason rudiger block jorginho amazing the whole team did a shift. the guy scored an open goal is that what were gonna give him credit for

    • @hddh3221
      @hddh3221 Před 7 měsíci +5

      for that price tag he should be doing a lot more he only stayed longer at chelsea cause of that goal

    • @rorycooper237
      @rorycooper237 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@hddh3221he still scored…

    • @tylerh8397
      @tylerh8397 Před 7 měsíci

      God I hope my club are never so insufferable as to not let a player live off a golden goal lol. Literally gave you an Ole Gunnar champions league winner and you don't claim him. Embarrassing fans honestly

    • @mcay8687
      @mcay8687 Před 7 měsíci +1

      😂🤌.... still happy for that transfer

  • @S0L12D3
    @S0L12D3 Před 7 měsíci +673

    “Do all Chelsea fans think the same?”
    Literally all of them followed the opinions of one person in the group 😂😂😂

    • @laksheykumar1991
      @laksheykumar1991 Před 7 měsíci +51

      Haha just kids following each others opinions. As you get older you learn to not be swayed by others. I think you'd find mature Chelsea fans have different views to potentially the pool chosen here

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Literally plastics

    • @manny2640A
      @manny2640A Před 7 měsíci +18

      ​@@laksheykumar1991tbf Lewis does go to every single game home and away

    • @skullxishim
      @skullxishim Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@laksheykumar1991 it ain’t that deep 🤣

    • @ashwilliams4959
      @ashwilliams4959 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@skullxishim does explain the repetitive, mindless chelsea chelsea song though

  • @MRDERA-zt6tb
    @MRDERA-zt6tb Před 7 měsíci +576

    Correction: Harry Kane has the most motm awards. But harry kane just surpassed hazard last season with 68 motm awards in 301 matches, meanwhile hazard in just 222 games got 62 motm awards. Hazard is a beast.

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Před 7 měsíci +9

      That means nothing, the most useless start I've ever heard. Okay, it means something, but not much, because they're a million variables like is that against man city or Norwich? Maybe you njust lose out as motm because there was someone belse JUST better than you a few times, but hazard, as we know was very hot & cold, consistency os far more important

    • @cairnward4527
      @cairnward4527 Před 7 měsíci +1

      In all comps hazard has like 90 something tho that’s why

    • @RetroFootballFC
      @RetroFootballFC Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@kurtsudheim825Hazard had one bad season which was 15/16 lol

    • @user-L13
      @user-L13 Před 7 měsíci

      @@kurtsudheim825 just sums up ur football knowledge🤡

    • @kaunghlyan6726
      @kaunghlyan6726 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@kurtsudheim825All these excuses for not winning MOTM but all these apply for Hazard as well so that point was invalid. And Hazard has 45 G/A against the "big 6" so it's very likely that he has won more MOTM awards against Man City than he has against Norwich.
      Also don't understand where this myth about Hazard being "inconsistent" comes from. He made the Premier League TOTS in 4 out of the 7 seasons he played and the only seasons he didn't make were:
      1. 2015-16 where he was carrying a back injury and was taking injections just to play (and also played like shit often tbf)
      2. 2017-18 where he still had 12 goals + 4 assists and still led a shit team to an FA Cup
      3. 2018-19 where he got 16 goals + 15 assists and led the league in every attacking metric except goals. Inconsistency where?
      I'm not even gonna mention the fact that he has more league titles in the same amount of years despite having worse teammates.

  • @user-co1zl7uk8x
    @user-co1zl7uk8x Před 7 měsíci +83

    As a chelsea fan, a lot of the time they were just waffling😂

  • @n0rman908
    @n0rman908 Před 4 měsíci +5

    So happy here as an arsenal fan watching this lmaoo. Sold havertz for 65m and bought caicedo for 115m. Dead. 3 months all the hindsight it takes lol.

  • @Dm_Clips1234
    @Dm_Clips1234 Před 7 měsíci +77

    Lewis walking out the door was so funny😂

  • @carefreelewisg
    @carefreelewisg Před 7 měsíci +115

    What a show! Great to be on!

    • @Kopite96
      @Kopite96 Před 7 měsíci

      Hazards a fat McDonald's employee.

    • @subeerbarkhdle2341
      @subeerbarkhdle2341 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Lewis u need to link up with troopz and that United fan they where acting high and mighty before the cup games

    • @PnkLpzAhmed
      @PnkLpzAhmed Před 3 měsíci

      How tall are you?

  • @chunie_
    @chunie_ Před 7 měsíci +67

    not only did that City team get 100 points (which had never been done) but the following season they also got a domestic quadruple (which also had never been done.) absolutely ridiculous and imo is easily the best PL team ever

    • @8swvslsSechan97Fs
      @8swvslsSechan97Fs Před 7 měsíci +4

      Bro the invincibles and treble winning man utd and others too bro

    • @qwerty_9922
      @qwerty_9922 Před 7 měsíci +1

      2019 and 18 liverpool were better

    • @Codenameshank
      @Codenameshank Před 7 měsíci +7

      2004/05 chelsea would eat this city team alive

    • @venixgames4674
      @venixgames4674 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Codenameshankcity would crush them nostalgia merchants

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Codenameshank that was a crazy team cus Drogba as a forward was willing to defend for 89 minutes and yet could nick 2 goals. Makelele crazy. Defence of Cole Terry Carvalho Cech but we were weak at RB. City on the other hand are weak at CB and have to concede a lot of tactical fouls.
      05- Frank would murder them.

  • @thetruth4654
    @thetruth4654 Před 7 měsíci +152

    Salah is clear of Hazard as a neutral.
    Arsenal fans are impossible to shut up, even when they are terrible, so i cannot imagine how bad Arsenal fans would be if they actually ever manage to win the PL again.

    • @coasters4life388
      @coasters4life388 Před 7 měsíci +32

      You sound hurt

    • @LocalNoob_2
      @LocalNoob_2 Před 7 měsíci +12

      you sound like a arsenal fan@@coasters4life388

    • @Ethioutforlunch
      @Ethioutforlunch Před 7 měsíci +4

      Well not our fault we've been dead and buried for 19 years

    • @fathzmomma
      @fathzmomma Před 7 měsíci +6

      If you want to use stats as your logic, then that would make Lampard the best pl cm oat, and better than Gerrard.
      Don't get me wrong, RN Salahs is still an output machine whilst in hazard is in retirement 'eating burgers'
      but it is because of VERY different career paths
      at 19 hazard won Ligue 1 POTY and took Lille to a double
      at 19 salah could barely get play time and FC Basel
      Chelsea signed both Salah and hazard within a year of each other, Mourinho gave Salah chances and playing time, but Hazard was the starting player playing like a beast, whilst Salah was practically on the bench/reserves and was sent on loan TWICE.
      unlike others, I believe salah really began to hit his peak at Roma, Not at Liverpool. But even at that time hazard was still better, the guy got in the 2016/17 UEFA team of the season, despite Chelsea not being in Europe that season and also that team was dominated by Real Madrid players.
      In all honesty, it can be argued that Salah's career truly began in 2017.
      Salah is an OUTPUT machine but if u think what makes players better than others is just stats, then u surely don't watch football at all.
      Hazard literally controlled entire games, he always had to drop back, collect the ball, and work off his magic.
      salah on the other hand has always been a RF/RW rather than a RM.
      In terms of his dribbling ability, this guy was the next Messi. When players are asked who was their toughest opponent, more seem to say hazard than salah, WHY?
      Because as I said, hazard actually had a significant impact on games, and so did Salah but that entire Liverpool squad was world-class. Same for Chelsea but very different eras.
      18/19, hazard carried Chelsea, literally carried chelsea. Salah at Liverpool was in a squad that played together for almost 4 years, whilst Hazard saw continuous change season by season, players in and out.
      regarding their contributions to their national teams, the hazard is insanely clear, don't get me wrong, Belgium is a far better national team so I wont bring up the 2018 World Cup despite Hazard still winning awards, scoring and assisting, and taking Belgium to the semi-final alongside KDB and lukaku. But based on individual performance and ability, hazard absolutely sweeps Salah, Infact mane did more for his nation than Salah did, in the WC and especially in the AFCON and in the AFCON final, seeing Mane vs salah, where Mane scored the winning pen in the shootout.
      Regarding hazards time at Real Madrid, yes it was very poor, but my explanation is 3 things, first the nature of Laliga (physicality), second relations with the manager and third his mental state. Laliga is far more physical than the prem, not only because of the types of players that play, but also refereeing and even things such as the resentment and pure hatred portrayed by the fans. To give you perspective, I will use Casemiro as an example of the difference in the leagues. In Laliga, he never received a straight red card despite spending 9 years at Real Madrid as a defensive and physical CDM, but in the premier league, he recieved 2 straight red cards in his first season at Man United. It shows a massive difference in the tolerance between the leagues, i personally believe everything about laliga is corrupt as hell. So hazard going from the prem to Laliga, playing as a winger, who was used to going 1 on 1 or taking on multiple defenders caused him to get fouled regularly and was never protected by refs, therefore causing him to become more injury prone, which also led to him gaining weight. When ancelotti joined in 2021/22 he implemented a system that favoured vinicius, which allowed him to flourish, after struggling at Madrid for the previous two seasons, therefore he became a starter. That season Madrid went on to win the UCL and Copa del ray, thanks to the link up between Vinicius and Benzema. As a result, hazard got almost 0 playtime since ancelotti didn't rate him, causing a deterioration in the relationship with the manager as well as a massive decline in his confidence.
      So before you ramble on about him retiring at 32, eating too many burgers, salah having better stats (despite having more appearances but thats not too relevant) understand that hazard has been better than salah for 11 years consistently, in almost every aspect and facet.
      Do you really think salah is going to continue doing what he has been doing since 2018 until 2028, ofc not. Hazard is simply the better PL era winger and also the better winger overall (career at lille and Chelsea).
      The fact that at the age of 28, hazard got the big signing to Madrid (IMO when a player moves to Madrid or barca at their peak, it shows they're great)
      at around a similar age, salah big move was to Liverpool (nowhere close to Madrid in size and influence)
      Real Madrid fans will always slander hazard because he cost them 130 mil euros, but they wont acknowledge the dire and poor state their club was at the time. A team unable to compete in Europe and in my opinion will never reach the grand status they had during the time of the Cristiano era. That same season hazard was signed, they signed others that didn't do so well such as jovic and vinicius (until 2021). The likes of anelka, essien, kaka had 'flopped' at Madrid, but they're still some of the greatest players of our generation.
      same for salah, just because he flopped at Chelsea, alongside players like KDB, who would both go on to be IMO the best PL players of the decade (top 3 being 1. Hazard 2. KDB 3. Salah), doesn't mean we should disrespect their overall greatness. I personally still believe salah was top 3 pl winger oat, and that can still change but salah is most likely going to leave Liverpool soon for Saudi.
      the levels and timing is crazy
      at hazards peak, he was literally being compared with Messi and Ronaldo, with both of the GOATs stating hazard is one of the best oat
      at salahs peak, he's being compared to Hazard
      People don't acknowledge salah as much as they did hazard because hazard was rated by the best mangers and best players. I do believe tho salah is still disrespected because the guy has better stats than most of the greatest Strikers to grace the prem, let alone wingers. Also the fact he's won 3 golden boots and 1 poty says a lot. But stats dont mean everything.
      If you have read up to here, massive respect, I grew up watching football, during the REAL barclays premier league, the PL of the 2010's, and both players are all time greats, both are close friends, and both have a lot in common. But nothing beats the eye test, nothing. I genuinely saw pure magic when i saw hazard play, and im saying this as an arsenal fan.

    • @jayenrhiney6030
      @jayenrhiney6030 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Is this not a Chelsea vid why you talking about Arsenal fans 😂😂

  • @njnbrlre2679
    @njnbrlre2679 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Hazard and Salah comparison can be silenced in a second by saying:
    "LAPMAPRD is a better midfielder than Iniesta or Zidane cause he has more goals "

    • @vicneshr8060
      @vicneshr8060 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Lol you are talking about a midfielder there. Plus with your logic Messi is worse than hazard

    • @KoolKidKimza
      @KoolKidKimza Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@vicneshr8060what are you saying my bro?🤔

    • @user-mq8qu4cx1f
      @user-mq8qu4cx1f Před 6 měsíci

      Ok but a midfielders main role isn't to score

    • @Michael-mh4ol
      @Michael-mh4ol Před 3 měsíci

      or Lampard is a better midfielder than Gerrard cause he hase more goals

  • @Samski1987
    @Samski1987 Před 7 měsíci +109

    3-4 years ago I would say Hazard is way better than Salah. But time and time again Salah proves his worth and still going very strong at the age of 31 while Hazard already retired. I respect his longevity and consistency. It is very tough for me to pick now between them

    • @Nephzi
      @Nephzi Před 7 měsíci +26

      Salah is going strong at 31 but also took 18-25 off compared to Hazard

    • @chewey9860
      @chewey9860 Před 7 měsíci +21

      That’s true but at the age of 18 Hazard was captaining Lille to the win league whilst being the best player in the league. Salah at 18 was still in Egypt. It took salah till the age of 25 too hit the elite level.

    • @ismingo4264
      @ismingo4264 Před 7 měsíci

      @@chewey9860and… Hazard was Bout to Fall off at that point.

    • @DeanMoriarti
      @DeanMoriarti Před 7 měsíci +14

      Soo Salah is better cos he hasn’t retired, but Hazard has retired with 10 more trophies than Salah. This “longevity rhetoric is stupid

    • @kobe2kallday
      @kobe2kallday Před 7 měsíci +5

      ​@@DeanMoriartitrophies means a little bit but not much that's like saying mustafi is better than ronaldo because he got a wc and not him

  • @NinasChelseaCorner
    @NinasChelseaCorner Před 7 měsíci +54

    Love it! Thank you for having me 🤩

    • @OfficialGeorgeAchillea
      @OfficialGeorgeAchillea  Před 7 měsíci +6

      Thanks for coming on the channel 👊🏼

    • @Gagefelstead
      @Gagefelstead Před 7 měsíci +6

      You're mental if you think Hazard was better for Chelsea over Salah for Liverpool - especially consistency & longevity wise 😂

    • @Iam_andredan
      @Iam_andredan Před 7 měsíci +1

      Tbh you are deluded

    • @Kopite96
      @Kopite96 Před 7 měsíci +5

      You think Hazard is better than Salah. The only thing he's got more than Mo is the weight 😂

    • @theafricanredpill
      @theafricanredpill Před 7 měsíci +2

      Loserpool fans are out in numbers.

  • @Fine_art23
    @Fine_art23 Před 7 měsíci +40

    As a Chelsea fan what a blame. How could that “fans” say so bad words about King Kai. He won us UCL, he was our big game player, scored to Liverpool, City, Madrid, Newcastle, Dortmund and was always good with big teams.

    • @thecitizens4573
      @thecitizens4573 Před 7 měsíci +19

      Pfft. Going for $65m is the most noble thing he did for chelsea

    • @goldbay9996
      @goldbay9996 Před 7 měsíci

      yo apart from the ucl final he was straight up ass.

    • @TheBigJizz
      @TheBigJizz Před 7 měsíci +3

      Please stop, watch game not just highlights

    • @kiddoxgaming
      @kiddoxgaming Před 7 měsíci

      Not always but i do hear your point

    • @daarkies7755
      @daarkies7755 Před 6 měsíci

      Shut up man havertz single handedly cost us countless times let’s not act like he was ever a good footballer

  • @OkA-007
    @OkA-007 Před 7 měsíci +49

    *To the owner of this channel*
    Please take advantage of these current VAR issues to make a video with different fans from different clubs (possibly the big 6 fans), on thier stance on the current VAR calls and other negative issues in football.
    *It'd be a social experiment, but also fun to watch*

  • @Don300_
    @Don300_ Před 7 měsíci +5

    Loved this, thanks for having me on !! 🤩🤩

  • @BluesFanUK_
    @BluesFanUK_ Před 7 měsíci +84

    That Salah/Hazard question - Salah has been incredible for Liverpool and his goal scoring record is ridiculous, but he's never had the same one man army aura about him like Hazard did. He more often than not single handedly won us games, whether that was a goal or just roasting a defence to lay off an assist. Henry was the best footballer this league has seen, but Hazard is arguably the most exciting player to grace the league.

    • @tylerfoster79
      @tylerfoster79 Před 7 měsíci

      Goals an assists or you're shit simple as

    • @Tredsino7
      @Tredsino7 Před 7 měsíci +15

      Ofc ur a Chelsea fan

    • @SamuelMills-ez4jo
      @SamuelMills-ez4jo Před 7 měsíci +19

      Salah clearly better.

    • @BluesFanUK_
      @BluesFanUK_ Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@SamuelMills-ez4jo Based on what? You think Salah has a bigger influence on Liverpool than Hazard did for us? 😂 The struggles we've been going through over the last couple years is exactly what Hazard was near single handedly preventing from happening several years prior. We were dreadful under Sarri but remained competitive literally because of Hazard. Salah doesn't have that kind of influencr over Liverpool.

    • @SamuelMills-ez4jo
      @SamuelMills-ez4jo Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@BluesFanUK_ Salah has been consistently putting more goals and assist in 6 years, hazard had 2 off seasons in he's prime. Salah at times was looking like the best player in the world. Salah has 4 top 10 ballon dor finish, hazard 1.

  • @chelseajacques_
    @chelseajacques_ Před 7 měsíci +8

    The collab crossover I was waiting for - George bringing on Chelsea fans. Also come on you Blues! Fingers crossed we can somehow get a result :O

  • @morriswaithaka776
    @morriswaithaka776 Před 7 měsíci +3

    As a chelsea fan i agree the players should continue playing games at Stamford bridge while a new stadium with a capacity of more than 60k is being constructed.

  • @iturapodile5178
    @iturapodile5178 Před 7 měsíci +4

    highkey enjoying this series 🤣

  • @ccfungi4024
    @ccfungi4024 Před 3 měsíci +13

    The Havertz slander is ageing well i see...

    • @Countryballs24992
      @Countryballs24992 Před 2 měsíci +3

      2 goals against Chelsea.

    • @wds8899
      @wds8899 Před 27 dny +1

      His replacement Cole Palmer got more goals than him. Jackson also got more goals. Believe me Chelsea fans really don’t care about that guy

    • @bariomalotelli4671
      @bariomalotelli4671 Před 25 dny

      We got a UCL from him, and arsenal got 0 achievements with him. So really we have the last laugh

  • @bobopatchnosuke229
    @bobopatchnosuke229 Před 7 měsíci +25

    The Arsenal hate is extreme, dudes, it is just football. 😂

    • @quansahnana499
      @quansahnana499 Před 7 měsíci +1

      They just noise pollutants

    • @Powwa7
      @Powwa7 Před 7 měsíci +7

      ​@@quansahnana499just like what you're doing under comments with same reply😂

    • @dylanpartridge2985
      @dylanpartridge2985 Před 7 měsíci

      poor mentality

    • @mardanhar82
      @mardanhar82 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Its not REAL hate. It's competitive rivalry

  • @CB-lw7ty
    @CB-lw7ty Před 7 měsíci +31

    As much as I loved Hazard I think in terms of "better for" I think if you don't have Salah in that Liverpool team they're just a top 6 side not doing anything else, maybe they win a cup but nothing major and definitely not hitting 90 points in consecutive seasons. Chelsea without Hazard in Sarri's season would have been just another top 6 side but the rest of the time even with an average winger they'd have still been up there doing what they did because there was always a raft of top players and managers creating what happened there alongside Hazard.

    • @maizemonker20
      @maizemonker20 Před 7 měsíci

      Really don't see this argument to be honest. Salah is obviously like the primary outlet for liverpool, an elite inside forward - but that is a much more replaceable profile, there's a handful of elite wingers who could match that output if they filled out an IF role like that in terms of 1v1 dribbling, finishing/positioning and final third decision-making. Players like Bale, Mane, Mbappe, Robben, Sane, prime Sterling would be able to replace Salah without relegating Liverpool too significantly.
      Consequently, players who could match Hazard's profile at Chelsea are probably strictly limited to Neymar and Messi. 2014/15 Chelsea had basically no world-class ball carriers, let alone someone who's arguably T3 all time.
      Same as 16/17, and 18/19
      That kind of elite ball-carrying is far more important to Chelsea, than Salah's final third output is to Liverpool.

    • @CB-lw7ty
      @CB-lw7ty Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@maizemonker20 You don't see the argument because your making a profile based one rather than a whole picture one. Salah and Hazard are top level players where only they and 1-2 other players in world football could do what they do at the time they done it, hence why they have the records they do and others don't. so talking about other players in world football, none of them have done what Salah and Hazard done for teams like Chelsea and Liverpool when Chelsea were starting their downturn in consistency and Liverpool were still building up with bargain buys. So if you take those players out of those teams they don't get replaced with people like Bale, Neymar etc they'd be replaced by players like Willian and Curtis Jones lol. When that's the case, if you take Salah and his numbers out of Liverpool and replace him with a same profile player but obviously not Salah's ability you'll get 15-20 goal contributions out of them at best, Salah's hitting double that up at 35-40 each season, that's a massive increase in output that puts Liverpool up there competiting for multiple comps and winning comps. Hazard who again is the only person who can do what he does and had his seasons being crazy good, if you take him out the team and replace him with a similar profile but not his level, because Chelsea as a unit are generally a high level even if that winger was scoring 15-20 goals the rest of the team would pick up where Chelsea wouldn't of been playing "pass the ball to Hazard and hope he wins the game everytime" so they would have a lesser match winner but a better system. Proof of that being that Hazard under Sarri had his best season and scored 50% of Chelsea's goals...the next season Chelsea scored more goals in all comps without Hazard than with him, you take Salah out of Liverpool when he's still a part of that system, nobody is picking up 40 goal contributions per season like he does and Liverpool will sink a level without him, without Hazard Chelsea maintained.

    • @danielalbo4994
      @danielalbo4994 Před 5 měsíci

      I’d strongly argue the 2 titles wouldn’t have been won without him and don’t know who would be his replacement
      A good portion of the Jose win was Hazard drawing penalties and us winning 2-1 or 1-0. Conte winning in 16/17 was more of a team effort but not as much 17/18 where we also relied on him
      Though yes I agree salah was still better

    • @CB-lw7ty
      @CB-lw7ty Před 5 měsíci

      @@danielalbo4994 At the time we were linked with Hulk, Modric, Pato, Falcao, we just sent KDB off which might not have happened if we needed him as a body if Hazard wasn't brought, potentially keep Sturridge rather than him going to Liverpool where he had those 2-3 crazy years annnnd the big big one Neymar too. So would have been interesting who we'd of gone for and got if Hazard wasn't brought and what those players careers would have looked like if they came to Chelsea at this point in time, which is the point I made, without Hazard there would have been another big name that might not have been as influential as Hazard but would have done decent enough to not be too missed and still won what we won in reality, Salah wasn't even brought to be "the guy" let alone years of being basically the best winger in Europe.

  • @footiefiesta0
    @footiefiesta0 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Make a Liverpool video with the same conception pls

  • @vaughanos5350
    @vaughanos5350 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Reece james, availability is the best abilty. if you can never pick him he cant be better.

  • @WaydeGaming
    @WaydeGaming Před 7 měsíci +4

    Havertz won you guys the fricking champions league, as a Real Madrid fan I respect every player that has scored a goal for us in the ucl finally

    • @whyareyougeh5488
      @whyareyougeh5488 Před 3 měsíci

      I completely agree. Yes he was not that good at chelsea icl he won us 2 trophies that Arsenal have never won in their history. Will always respect him for that. Idk why our fans hate him

  • @benpointer9227
    @benpointer9227 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I thought this was going to be asking them separately their thoughts. Not following the person with the strongest opinion.

  • @Chum2293
    @Chum2293 Před 6 měsíci +2

    As a lifelong chelsea fan, havertz scored in the CL final. 65 mil is a good deal for us. That is an intangible for any team looking to buy a player. Respect him, even if we struggled with him at the end.

  • @senpaidayove5752
    @senpaidayove5752 Před 7 měsíci +2

    props to geroge, we asked for a non too 6 club fan video, he delivered

  • @poparrow9416
    @poparrow9416 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Should do one with Liverpool and City

  • @jakobsmith4046
    @jakobsmith4046 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Deluded right off the bat with the first question jeez

  • @ishraqsyed8999
    @ishraqsyed8999 Před 7 měsíci +3

    2004-05 was a top team. Maybe top 5 in PL but for me it is between the treble winners of Manchester. 98-99 united or 22-23 city. Rest follow afterwards. And i say this as a Liverpool fan

    • @user-L13
      @user-L13 Před 7 měsíci

      2004-05
      1 loss
      15 goals conceded
      95 points
      Clearly the best side PL ever seen

    • @manuelg7765
      @manuelg7765 Před 7 měsíci

      @@user-L13
      Arsenal Invincibles
      City Threepeat team
      City Treble team
      Man Utd treble team
      Man Utd Ronaldo team
      All better

  • @nicolaszan1845
    @nicolaszan1845 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Chelsea just drew Treble Winners Man City 4-4 in a thriller of a game. Even if just for that, Poch is 100% staying until next season unless Chelsea somehow drop to relegation spots.

  • @NN-fw9il
    @NN-fw9il Před 5 měsíci +3

    Kieran Trippier is the best RB in England.A few mistakes this season don't change that.Don't embarrass yourselves.AWB has better 1v1 stats than James .

  • @ghstknte
    @ghstknte Před 7 měsíci +8

    Chelsea fans have extremely short memories, this is why football players don’t care about loyalty to the clubs or fans these days, if havertz did nothing else but win us the UCL then he was well worth it because we weren’t all that

    • @debishvebishwish4839
      @debishvebishwish4839 Před 7 měsíci +2

      This is what people say “credits where its due”. Yeah thank you for scoring that open goal, but in everything else he’s been shit. Look at Man City players, they don’t need loyalty, they play for the money, but they still play the best they can because of professionalism. “Loyalty to the club” means shit if you are shit.

    • @desmonddessy6699
      @desmonddessy6699 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@debishvebishwish4839 so you prefer havertz missing that UCL goal, then playing like cole Palmer afterwards?

    • @debishvebishwish4839
      @debishvebishwish4839 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@desmonddessy6699 no, I prefer he did more than just scoring the UCL goal. You can’t just keep on reminiscing that one goal forever, move on already. What about other games after that? Is he allowed to do bad the next season just because he score the winner for UCL?

    • @casketpaint397
      @casketpaint397 Před 7 měsíci

      @@desmonddessy6699 how sure are you we wouldn't have won by penalties

    • @desmonddessy6699
      @desmonddessy6699 Před 7 měsíci

      @@casketpaint397 we could have lost too

  • @SonnyTalksSpurs
    @SonnyTalksSpurs Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great series this!

  • @eddymartin5146
    @eddymartin5146 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Funny how goals and assists doesn’t matter with hazard compared to Salah but yet it’s the only reason these same fans think lampard is better than gerrard

    • @qwerto3
      @qwerto3 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ?

    • @Surveillance-Ys
      @Surveillance-Ys Před 7 měsíci +1

      Gerrard does everything lampard can but not true the other way around.

    • @darkstar4102
      @darkstar4102 Před 7 měsíci

      As Chelsea fan Iniesta, Ronaldinho, Zidane are better players than Lampard even though he has more goals than them, so we do not judge by goals alone, but Hazard was much talent than Salah except goals as Salah is more poacher and hazard is guy would be man of match dominate play but not score some occasions

  • @dggis1593
    @dggis1593 Před 7 měsíci +849

    Havertz won you the CL and you claim he did nothing for you. Chelsea fans in a nutshell.

    • @onset6ix
      @onset6ix Před 7 měsíci +644

      we conceded 4 goals during that UCL run yet shitvertz won us the UCL, lol.

    • @fathzmomma
      @fathzmomma Před 7 měsíci

      go look at havertz's stats for his 3 seasons at Chelsea. Theyre poor. Also, you can make an argument that kante won us that ucl, up until the final havertz barely contributed, tbh ziyech and werner did more. Also the goal he scored, was thanks to werner and mounts pure awareness. Mount passed through all that space because werner made a run to the other end, so that walker chased him leaving dias having to spend time thinking wether to intercept the pass or chase after havertz. Tbh havertz wasn't even top 3 chelsea players that match, the top 3 were rudiger, kante and reece james. Stop thinking havertz made chelsea because of one goal, although I will admit the fact that havertz pulled through for us numerous times, such as finals like the ucl final, assisting ziyech in the super cup final, scoring the winning penalty vs palmeiras in the CWC final, as well as winning us the 3 points in numerous games in the league and the Champions league (www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/special-kai-havertzs-winning-goals-for-the-blues). Yes he did do things for us but he wasn't so consistent. Havertz plays well when he has to, when he's under pressure. HOWEVER he wasn't great for us, there were numerous of times he failed to execute chances. So I agree that these chelsea fans are just saying this because he left for arsenal but with ur logic, Juliano belleti did much for barca just because he scored the goal in the ucl final (2006) despite the fact his career at barca was terrible, one goal in a big games shouldn't make the players overall career at a club amazing or whatever.

    • @RAY300064
      @RAY300064 Před 7 měsíci +75

      ​@stayfinessin he was part of the reason we won yes, just like the defence was and the midfield was. If one part wasn't playing their role we wouldn't have won.
      So yes without havertz we wouldn't have won the UCL. Happy?

    • @chelseafootball397
      @chelseafootball397 Před 7 měsíci +126

      @@RAY300064he only played 3 matches in the UCl

    • @Demi876
      @Demi876 Před 7 měsíci +72

      What did he do after that we're are grateful he scored just like how we're grateful he got that transfer

  • @davidking9222
    @davidking9222 Před 7 měsíci +27

    Kai Havetz won Chelsea the Champions League. He deserves some respect.

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Some, but not much, one goal isn't enough to write everything off

    • @gatwechtapnguth8216
      @gatwechtapnguth8216 Před 7 měsíci +1

      We used to call him " King Kai " ... so disrespectful

    • @desmonddessy6699
      @desmonddessy6699 Před 7 měsíci

      Agreed. I will always respect him

    • @emmanuelajah4465
      @emmanuelajah4465 Před 7 měsíci +2

      How can you say he won us the CL? What about RUDIGER and the rest of the team who were putting their body on the line

    • @jaym1965
      @jaym1965 Před 7 měsíci

      Clearly don’t watch him all season . He’s been dog shit every season

  • @_Mercy101
    @_Mercy101 Před 7 měsíci +1

    That one jersey that the lady was wearing brought a lot of memories 😢💙

  • @ivanmility7922
    @ivanmility7922 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The guy in the hat and the white are mad. That 04/05 set the records and change the way the bpl is now. Team was the first to go pass 90 pts.

  • @benmorris118
    @benmorris118 Před 7 měsíci +33

    2nd question - did they forget how liverpool managed to coutinho to barca for £142mill? And how they sold torres to chelsea for £50mill? Short memories

    • @JohnWick-kq7gp
      @JohnWick-kq7gp Před 7 měsíci +16

      Coutinho and Torres was cocking in liverpool.Kai did nothinggggg in 3 years

    • @JohnWick-kq7gp
      @JohnWick-kq7gp Před 7 měsíci +10

      In liverpool terms, imagine selling nabi keita for 65mil

    • @Us3r0094
      @Us3r0094 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Torres partially won us Champions League and definitely Won us Europa

    • @salehr8770
      @salehr8770 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Hazard for 100m? And he was constantly injured

    • @hamzahax
      @hamzahax Před 7 měsíci

      Torres was worth every penny

  • @mahmod2377
    @mahmod2377 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Love this type off videos, do it with barca fans🔴🔵

    • @OfficialGeorgeAchillea
      @OfficialGeorgeAchillea  Před 7 měsíci +4

      Trip to Spain anyone? 👀

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Před 7 měsíci

      Mature is England, he hadn't even done non London clubs yet, I think it's just him, maybe another 1/2 of his mates helping, it's not copal 90

  • @thebluschelsea
    @thebluschelsea Před 7 měsíci +2

    The character traits are destined to be different...and Lukaku.It's getting better at AS Roma...and buying a barren striker like Jackson is often a waste of opportunities

  • @bestrafung2754
    @bestrafung2754 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Do Liverpool, Manchester City, and Newcastle next! Got to have James Redmond too lol

  • @cancorder1
    @cancorder1 Před 7 měsíci +4

    ‘I see a lot more arsenal fans than spurs’ was a common comment by all 4. Goes to show who the biggest club is. Arsenal got London on lock

    • @bestrafung2754
      @bestrafung2754 Před 7 měsíci

      I'm from Manchester but even I've seen a lot more Arsenal fans here than Spurs ones (they even have a supporters club here and an alright following), although admittedly it's usually for glory hunting back in the 200s or, and I'm not even joking, because KSI supports them. Yep, a few kids in my high school legit started supporting Arsenal because KSI supports them lmao, so now Arsenal have this weird following in Manchester consisting of older glory hunters from 2004 and much younger casual fans who just like them because KSI does. Hey, it's still a lot better than Tottenham though xD

  • @belgradewanderer
    @belgradewanderer Před 7 měsíci +20

    Loving this, try doing it with Newcastle, Villa, West Ham fans etc. Bolton is a shout too, with Thogden, Thogdad, Stunt Pegg etc.

    • @OfficialGeorgeAchillea
      @OfficialGeorgeAchillea  Před 7 měsíci +9

      Don’t worry I will gradually work my way round all the clubs 😎

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Před 7 měsíci

      He's going down the list, he'll do man u next I presume, as you do bigger clubs first. Also easier to do with London clubs since its in London, that's why it was arsenal & spurs first. Well, supposedly easier, still plenty non London vlub fans in London, & not because theor dad was from Newcastle or lvpl

    • @jinbla2
      @jinbla2 Před 7 měsíci

      southampton plz@@OfficialGeorgeAchillea

    • @l_eggal
      @l_eggal Před 7 měsíci

      hilarious mate hes already done man u, chelsea are the smaller club.😂😂@@kurtsudheim825

  • @sevenscorpions7
    @sevenscorpions7 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Yo u need to mark lines for the opinions on the floor. Keep up the great content

    • @OfficialGeorgeAchillea
      @OfficialGeorgeAchillea  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Will do in future ones! Some studios can be funny about these things but as videos do well the budget will increase haha

  • @tebohogololo9783
    @tebohogololo9783 Před 7 měsíci

    Suggestion for the stadium move, so build a new stadium somewhere else while we play at Stamford bridge and after 3-4 years move to the new stadium and in 3-4 years the women game would have grown a bit but still not enough to fill a 30000 seat capacity every week but our women's team deserve a better stadium then what their playing in and given the fact our women's is the best in england i feel with the growth they will be able to fill 30000 seat capacity in 6-7 years.

  • @LyonKingTV
    @LyonKingTV Před 7 měsíci +6

    Delusional to say Hazard better then Salah. Yes Hazard was the better talent, especially as a young lad but Liverpool didnt win more titles solely because of that op Man shity.

    • @MaxplaysgamesHD
      @MaxplaysgamesHD Před 7 měsíci

      Real madrid ucl final was definitely because of city 😂😂😂

    • @fathzmomma
      @fathzmomma Před 7 měsíci +2

      If you want to use stats as your logic, then that would make Lampard the best pl cm oat, and better than Gerrard.
      Don't get me wrong, RN Salahs is still an output machine whilst in hazard is in retirement 'eating burgers'
      but it is because of VERY different career paths
      at 19 hazard won Ligue 1 POTY and took Lille to a double
      at 19 salah could barely get play time and FC Basel
      Chelsea signed both Salah and hazard within a year of each other, Mourinho gave Salah chances and playing time, but Hazard was the starting player playing like a beast, whilst Salah was practically on the bench/reserves and was sent on loan TWICE.
      unlike others, I believe salah really began to hit his peak at Roma, Not at Liverpool. But even at that time hazard was still better, the guy got in the 2016/17 UEFA team of the season, despite Chelsea not being in Europe that season and also that team was dominated by Real Madrid players.
      In all honesty, it can be argued that Salah's career truly began in 2017.
      Salah is an OUTPUT machine but if u think what makes players better than others is just stats, then u surely don't watch football at all.
      Hazard literally controlled entire games, he always had to drop back, collect the ball, and work off his magic.
      salah on the other hand has always been a RF/RW rather than a RM.
      In terms of his dribbling ability, this guy was the next Messi. When players are asked who was their toughest opponent, more seem to say hazard than salah, WHY?
      Because as I said, hazard actually had a significant impact on games, and so did Salah but that entire Liverpool squad was world-class. Same for Chelsea but very different eras.
      18/19, hazard carried Chelsea, literally carried chelsea. Salah at Liverpool was in a squad that played together for almost 4 years, whilst Hazard saw continuous change season by season, players in and out.
      regarding their contributions to their national teams, the hazard is insanely clear, don't get me wrong, Belgium is a far better national team so I wont bring up the 2018 World Cup despite Hazard still winning awards, scoring and assisting, and taking Belgium to the semi-final alongside KDB and lukaku. But based on individual performance and ability, hazard absolutely sweeps Salah, Infact mane did more for his nation than Salah did, in the WC and especially in the AFCON and in the AFCON final, seeing Mane vs salah, where Mane scored the winning pen in the shootout.
      Regarding hazards time at Real Madrid, yes it was very poor, but my explanation is 3 things, first the nature of Laliga (physicality), second relations with the manager and third his mental state. Laliga is far more physical than the prem, not only because of the types of players that play, but also refereeing and even things such as the resentment and pure hatred portrayed by the fans. To give you perspective, I will use Casemiro as an example of the difference in the leagues. In Laliga, he never received a straight red card despite spending 9 years at Real Madrid as a defensive and physical CDM, but in the premier league, he recieved 2 straight red cards in his first season at Man United. It shows a massive difference in the tolerance between the leagues, i personally believe everything about laliga is corrupt as hell. So hazard going from the prem to Laliga, playing as a winger, who was used to going 1 on 1 or taking on multiple defenders caused him to get fouled regularly and was never protected by refs, therefore causing him to become more injury prone, which also led to him gaining weight. When ancelotti joined in 2021/22 he implemented a system that favoured vinicius, which allowed him to flourish, after struggling at Madrid for the previous two seasons, therefore he became a starter. That season Madrid went on to win the UCL and Copa del ray, thanks to the link up between Vinicius and Benzema. As a result, hazard got almost 0 playtime since ancelotti didn't rate him, causing a deterioration in the relationship with the manager as well as a massive decline in his confidence.
      So before you ramble on about him retiring at 32, eating too many burgers, salah having better stats (despite having more appearances but thats not too relevant) understand that hazard has been better than salah for 11 years consistently, in almost every aspect and facet.
      Do you really think salah is going to continue doing what he has been doing since 2018 until 2028, ofc not. Hazard is simply the better PL era winger and also the better winger overall (career at lille and Chelsea).
      The fact that at the age of 28, hazard got the big signing to Madrid (IMO when a player moves to Madrid or barca at their peak, it shows they're great)
      at around a similar age, salah big move was to Liverpool (nowhere close to Madrid in size and influence)
      Real Madrid fans will always slander hazard because he cost them 130 mil euros, but they wont acknowledge the dire and poor state their club was at the time. A team unable to compete in Europe and in my opinion will never reach the grand status they had during the time of the Cristiano era. That same season hazard was signed, they signed others that didn't do so well such as jovic and vinicius (until 2021). The likes of anelka, essien, kaka had 'flopped' at Madrid, but they're still some of the greatest players of our generation.
      same for salah, just because he flopped at Chelsea, alongside players like KDB, who would both go on to be IMO the best PL players of the decade (top 3 being 1. Hazard 2. KDB 3. Salah), doesn't mean we should disrespect their overall greatness. I personally still believe salah was top 3 pl winger oat, and that can still change but salah is most likely going to leave Liverpool soon for Saudi.
      the levels and timing is crazy
      at hazards peak, he was literally being compared with Messi and Ronaldo, with both of the GOATs stating hazard is one of the best oat
      at salahs peak, he's being compared to Hazard
      People don't acknowledge salah as much as they did hazard because hazard was rated by the best mangers and best players. I do believe tho salah is still disrespected because the guy has better stats than most of the greatest Strikers to grace the prem, let alone wingers. Also the fact he's won 3 golden boots and 1 poty says a lot. But stats dont mean everything.
      If you have read up to here, massive respect, I grew up watching football, during the REAL barclays premier league, the PL of the 2010's, and both players are all time greats, both are close friends, and both have a lot in common. But nothing beats the eye test, nothing. I genuinely saw pure magic when i saw hazard play, and im saying this as an arsenal fan.

  • @zelgius3421
    @zelgius3421 Před 7 měsíci +21

    Based on the answers alone, you can clearly see that the fear of Arsenal being a major threat again is massive.

    • @quansahnana499
      @quansahnana499 Před 7 měsíci +32

      Its not about threat is about noise pollution

    • @Powwa7
      @Powwa7 Před 7 měsíci +4

      ​@@quansahnana499when you have a large social media presence, you are correct it gets loud. That is how things work.

    • @juventisa23
      @juventisa23 Před 7 měsíci

      We really are

  • @kurtsudheim825
    @kurtsudheim825 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hazard better because he won more is the exact logic i look for to find out how dense someone is, using team achievements, to argue for an individual award, is exactly how martinez won gk of the year. He was nicer to watch, & maybe had more talent, but no way he has a better pl legacy than salad, who is rhe best foreign forward in the pl behind only Henry & sergio imo. I know the q of the defensive title win was asked to get to the arsenal invincible thing, that's why he had to bring it up, & sure fans do go on about it, but he real, if you're club had done it everyone belse would to, because you can't deny its amazing achievement, & probably the second best team the pl has had (though i actual think the man city sode of a year/2 after the centurions was a better team)

  • @KINGKING10109
    @KINGKING10109 Před 7 měsíci

    In Regards to the stadium,
    Chelsea have already bought the Land surrounding the Stadium so we can defo fit a 60K+ stadium there.
    I don’t wanna leave the bridge at all.
    It’s the oldest premier league ground

  • @anvil9263
    @anvil9263 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Suprised they gave us Tottenham to win the league considering both sets of fans come together to sing we all hate Tottenham

    • @5tuttssss471
      @5tuttssss471 Před 7 měsíci +3

      if it’s you or arsenal I’m sure any fanbase in the top 6 would say spurs

    • @enthusiastsajan713
      @enthusiastsajan713 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@5tuttssss471as a United fan, 100% wholeheartedly agree!

    • @rennadubbzmusic2511
      @rennadubbzmusic2511 Před 7 měsíci +1

      These guys obviously don’t go to games coz we literally sing we hate Tottenham every game. I get what they are saying about Arsenal fans being unbearable but there’s no way the majority of true Chelsea fans want Tottenham to win the league

    • @introvermaniesh
      @introvermaniesh Před 7 měsíci

      Spurs winning would be like Man City winning 2012, every Pool, Chelsea, hell even an Assna fan would want it over United!

    • @flapackfez
      @flapackfez Před 2 měsíci +1

      Not rory jennings tho. He hates Tottenham more than he loves Chelsea

  • @rukashi7445
    @rukashi7445 Před 7 měsíci +13

    1. Havertz contributed way more to Chelsea than these blokes think he did.
    2. They are so arrogantly optimistic about their club and somehow being angry at how Arsenal fans act. At least they don’t lose to Brentford at home and then act like they’re in the title race.
    But other than that they were quite fair and I kind of respect that

    • @APS378
      @APS378 Před 7 měsíci +18

      You have not watched Havertz play for Chelsea, the man was missing chances left and right, if he didn’t score that one goal where he was 1 on 1 with the goalkeeper in the champions league, man would be working at McDonald’s by now.
      And keep in mind Werner was way more useful and contributed more than havartz.

    • @dave4728
      @dave4728 Před 7 měsíci

      How is being optimistic about the clubs future, being arrogant? Maybe blindly optimistic could be a label. Trying to find fault where there is none

    • @luqmanmohames677
      @luqmanmohames677 Před 7 měsíci

      Wtf did he do😂😂😂

    • @alikingaku4903
      @alikingaku4903 Před 7 měsíci

      Bro literally look up Havertz misses on CZcams you’ll see how bad he was

  • @jakobsmith4046
    @jakobsmith4046 Před 7 měsíci +2

    1:21 Aint no fucking way I just heard that

  • @mwaush7251
    @mwaush7251 Před 7 měsíci

    Loved these questions 👌🏾🔥

  • @MancityRecap
    @MancityRecap Před 7 měsíci +1

    It's funny when they paid £75 joke is on your club tbh 😂😂😂😂

  • @LoCoAde87
    @LoCoAde87 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Re Trent vs James
    One is a crock who had played under far more defensive managers and set ups for goodness sake.
    Don't pretend Reeces James is as good in a 4 vs 5 playing as wing back.
    Put Reece James in Liverpool side, he will be exposed far more. He sure as hell couldn't the inverted role or play CM.

    • @LukeMcClelland
      @LukeMcClelland Před 7 měsíci +2

      Then why isn’t he being linked as Real Madrid’s first choice for Right Back? And why does Reece get ahead of Trent in the England team when he’s fit? I mean, Trent is absolutely class, don’t get me wrong, I think he’s more adaptable than Reece for instance. However, in that one particular position, Reece is better. We are a much improved team with him in the squad.

    • @razer0072073
      @razer0072073 Před 7 měsíci

      ​​@@LukeMcClellandI genuinely believe you guys are just happy to be in the conversation because you guys are that deprived, I mean Salah could be scoring 25-35 goals for the next 3-4 seasons but you guys will still end up saying 'Yeah but Hazards was still better' you guys are trolls that debate ended three seasons ago and you're still clinging on when Hazard literally retired the day he left Chelsea and hasn't shown up since. Look at City fans look how sensible they are they've accepted that Salahs better than Mahrez, why can't you do the same? Instead why don't you guys start Hazard and Mahrez debates? Mahrez is in for a shout there.

  • @TruePREDATOR2001
    @TruePREDATOR2001 Před 7 měsíci

    He had to play Kane purely because of the cause in kanes contract if he is fit he plays which was a big mistake

  • @ChrisAxman
    @ChrisAxman Před 7 měsíci

    Lol I like the premise of the video, was amusing. As a Chelsea fan though I don't agree with most of what they said.
    One the Bridge I agree, the all around cost to stay, money, time, ability to develop the area, is too much.
    Hazard I loved, but like the age old Lampard vs Gerrard date, him and Salah were/are amazing for the respective sides and great players, so neither agree not disagree.
    I don't want Spurs to have that taste of PL success, Arsenal have had it before, so who cares if they get another?
    Reece would be clear of Trent IF he could stay fit. Injuries HAVE to factor in to it. Like Ledley King would have been an all time PL CB great if he could have stayed out of the treatment room.
    Havertz deal? Good deal no doubt, thanks for that Arsenal. But the deal of the century? No for me that was Klopp selling Coutinho and using that money to build a team that won the league and CL.

  • @banjo._scranjo7830
    @banjo._scranjo7830 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Great concept with some well spoken fans, I love our club 💙

  • @GordonIsClass
    @GordonIsClass Před 7 měsíci +16

    reece james clear of trent and all of them agreeing is the funniest shit ive seen all day 🤣🤣🤣

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Před 7 měsíci +5

      I do think he's better all round, but that's the key they eluded to, fitness

    • @ibrahimsiddiqui2623
      @ibrahimsiddiqui2623 Před 7 měsíci +4

      James made a mockery of Liverpool in the first match he is clear of Trent who can't defend

    • @ashwilliams4959
      @ashwilliams4959 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@ibrahimsiddiqui2623 joe gomez is clear of trent defensively but there's more to football than needing to be completely defensive especially if your a top side, so I understand chelseas mentality

    • @sblackofficial
      @sblackofficial Před 7 měsíci

      you say in the first game of the season the difference in levels between the two when james is fully fit

    • @SugarRayOPrey
      @SugarRayOPrey Před 7 měsíci +1

      They made some ridiculous decisions but a fit RJ is the best in the world.

  • @mightymuppetz
    @mightymuppetz Před 7 měsíci

    For me, it’s a small club mentality to choose the FA Cup over the CL qualification. The only two trophies that REALLY matter are the PL and the CL so everything you do should be a stepping stone to winning one of them.

  • @khetramohandash7766
    @khetramohandash7766 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Kai havertz is one of the best signing for arsenal

  • @LoCoAde87
    @LoCoAde87 Před 7 měsíci +112

    Salah has the numbers
    Salah tracks back
    Salah had the longevity
    Salah has the consistent
    Salah didn't come back fat
    Salah wants to win
    Salah isn't injury prone
    Salah didn't drop off because Klopp annoyed him for whatever reason
    Salah isn't the stereotype who has had it easy from youth days
    Salah has come up against the full force of 115 charges side led by Pep
    Salah didn't walk into a UCL winning team
    I don't mind someone saying Hazard was more naturally talented or aesthetically pleasing, but the rest Salah has. And for those dissing Salah on tech, have you seen his goals vs prime Man City and then Watford? Stop playing Salah'a technical ability down.

    • @ahf3469
      @ahf3469 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Brilliant comment completely agree

    • @fathzmomma
      @fathzmomma Před 7 měsíci +24

      If you want to use stats as your logic, then that would make Lampard the best pl cm oat, and better than Gerrard.
      Don't get me wrong, RN Salahs is still an output machine whilst in hazard is in retirement 'eating burgers'
      but it is because of VERY different career paths
      at 19 hazard won Ligue 1 POTY and took Lille to a double
      at 19 salah could barely get play time and FC Basel
      Chelsea signed both Salah and hazard within a year of each other, Mourinho gave Salah chances and playing time, but Hazard was the starting player playing like a beast, whilst Salah was practically on the bench/reserves and was sent on loan TWICE.
      unlike others, I believe salah really began to hit his peak at Roma, Not at Liverpool. But even at that time hazard was still better, the guy got in the 2016/17 UEFA team of the season, despite Chelsea not being in Europe that season and also that team was dominated by Real Madrid players.
      In all honesty, it can be argued that Salah's career truly began in 2017.
      Salah is an OUTPUT machine but if u think what makes players better than others is just stats, then u surely don't watch football at all.
      Hazard literally controlled entire games, he always had to drop back, collect the ball, and work off his magic.
      salah on the other hand has always been a RF/RW rather than a RM.
      In terms of his dribbling ability, this guy was the next Messi. When players are asked who was their toughest opponent, more seem to say hazard than salah, WHY?
      Because as I said, hazard actually had a significant impact on games, and so did Salah but that entire Liverpool squad was world-class. Same for Chelsea but very different eras.
      18/19, hazard carried Chelsea, literally carried chelsea. Salah at Liverpool was in a squad that played together for almost 4 years, whilst Hazard saw continuous change season by season, players in and out.
      regarding their contributions to their national teams, the hazard is insanely clear, don't get me wrong, Belgium is a far better national team so I wont bring up the 2018 World Cup despite Hazard still winning awards, scoring and assisting, and taking Belgium to the semi-final alongside KDB and lukaku. But based on individual performance and ability, hazard absolutely sweeps Salah, Infact mane did more for his nation than Salah did, in the WC and especially in the AFCON and in the AFCON final, seeing Mane vs salah, where Mane scored the winning pen in the shootout.
      Regarding hazards time at Real Madrid, yes it was very poor, but my explanation is 3 things, first the nature of Laliga (physicality), second relations with the manager and third his mental state. Laliga is far more physical than the prem, not only because of the types of players that play, but also refereeing and even things such as the resentment and pure hatred portrayed by the fans. To give you perspective, I will use Casemiro as an example of the difference in the leagues. In Laliga, he never received a straight red card despite spending 9 years at Real Madrid as a defensive and physical CDM, but in the premier league, he recieved 2 straight red cards in his first season at Man United. It shows a massive difference in the tolerance between the leagues, i personally believe everything about laliga is corrupt as hell. So hazard going from the prem to Laliga, playing as a winger, who was used to going 1 on 1 or taking on multiple defenders caused him to get fouled regularly and was never protected by refs, therefore causing him to become more injury prone, which also led to him gaining weight. When ancelotti joined in 2021/22 he implemented a system that favoured vinicius, which allowed him to flourish, after struggling at Madrid for the previous two seasons, therefore he became a starter. That season Madrid went on to win the UCL and Copa del ray, thanks to the link up between Vinicius and Benzema. As a result, hazard got almost 0 playtime since ancelotti didn't rate him, causing a deterioration in the relationship with the manager as well as a massive decline in his confidence.
      So before you ramble on about him retiring at 32, eating too many burgers, salah having better stats (despite having more appearances but thats not too relevant) understand that hazard has been better than salah for 11 years consistently, in almost every aspect and facet.
      Do you really think salah is going to continue doing what he has been doing since 2018 until 2028, ofc not. Hazard is simply the better PL era winger and also the better winger overall (career at lille and Chelsea).
      The fact that at the age of 28, hazard got the big signing to Madrid (IMO when a player moves to Madrid or barca at their peak, it shows they're great)
      at around a similar age, salah big move was to Liverpool (nowhere close to Madrid in size and influence)
      Real Madrid fans will always slander hazard because he cost them 130 mil euros, but they wont acknowledge the dire and poor state their club was at the time. A team unable to compete in Europe and in my opinion will never reach the grand status they had during the time of the Cristiano era. That same season hazard was signed, they signed others that didn't do so well such as jovic and vinicius (until 2021). The likes of anelka, essien, kaka had 'flopped' at Madrid, but they're still some of the greatest players of our generation.
      same for salah, just because he flopped at Chelsea, alongside players like KDB, who would both go on to be IMO the best PL players of the decade (top 3 being 1. Hazard 2. KDB 3. Salah), doesn't mean we should disrespect their overall greatness. I personally still believe salah was top 3 pl winger oat, and that can still change but salah is most likely going to leave Liverpool soon for Saudi.
      the levels and timing is crazy
      at hazards peak, he was literally being compared with Messi and Ronaldo, with both of the GOATs stating hazard is one of the best oat
      at salahs peak, he's being compared to Hazard
      People don't acknowledge salah as much as they did hazard because hazard was rated by the best mangers and best players. I do believe tho salah is still disrespected because the guy has better stats than most of the greatest Strikers to grace the prem, let alone wingers. Also the fact he's won 3 golden boots and 1 poty says a lot. But stats dont mean everything.
      If you have read up to here, massive respect, I grew up watching football, during the REAL barclays premier league, the PL of the 2010's, and both players are all time greats, both are close friends, and both have a lot in common. But nothing beats the eye test, nothing. I genuinely saw pure magic when i saw hazard play, and im saying this as an arsenal fan.

    • @eg-bc8ed
      @eg-bc8ed Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@fathzmomma
      As a Chelsea fan, I’ve seen this Hazard vs Salah debate a lot and your comment is amazing because you have highlighted so many important points and misconceptions.
      1. The difference in position. Hazard was the main man who dropped deep to get on the ball whereas Salah is a RF making runs in behind, especially on the counter attack. Of course, this will lead to Salah getting more G/A. But, Hazard was more instrumental to Chelsea.
      2. Who don’t more people realise that Hazard is only 1 year older than Salah? They are essentially the same age. So, people talk about the longevity of Salah but where was Salah from 2009-2017, where Hazard was balling out, winning 2 PLs, winning PL player of the years, carrying Chelsea. Salah’s career only really took off in his late 20s.
      3. In terms of style, Hazard is unique. You are 10 times more likely to find another Salah (clinical goal-scorer with pace) than another Hazard (messi-like dribbles and play-making ability). I genuinely believe that Hazard could have been converted into a RF in a Klopp system and be as good if not better than Salah. However, Salah could not be as good as Hazard is the Hazard-role.

    • @supreme_zeeyus
      @supreme_zeeyus Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@fathzmommathank you for the dissertation on why Hazard is the superior player to Salah 🙌🏾

    • @cfcverbalist
      @cfcverbalist Před 7 měsíci +2

      He doesn't win longevity because he started being elite late

  • @elcuhyeee6253
    @elcuhyeee6253 Před 7 měsíci +3

    bro these lot agreed to everything and there's so many wrong takes

    • @ashwilliams4959
      @ashwilliams4959 Před 7 měsíci

      Sheepsea sheepsea sheepsea... make sense now? They can't think for themselves 😂

    • @KojakDaStreetScholar
      @KojakDaStreetScholar Před 7 měsíci

      Lewis swayed all of them in his opinions.

  • @nicopaxx
    @nicopaxx Před 7 měsíci +1

    "...but he was misunderstood at chelseaa"😂😂

  • @ngazibini304
    @ngazibini304 Před 7 měsíci

    The Salah/Hazard question - the way the question was phrased I believe Salah takes it Soley for the achievements Liverpool had with Salah in the team... Yes both players have different playing styles, which most ppl favor Hazard's over Salah's.... but sticking to the question in my opinion Salah did more for Liverpool than Hazard did for Chelsea. This question reminds me of the who was the better midfielder for Madrid, Zidane or Modric and from that question I believe Modric was the better midfield for Real Madrid than Zidane, despite Zidane in my opinion being the better player overall. And I am a Madrid Fan btw...

  • @RyanH_
    @RyanH_ Před 7 měsíci +10

    I’m a Chelsea fan obviously but the phrasing of the question is not whos better but who was better for their club what salah did for Liverpool is bigger then what hazard did for Chelsea before hazard Chelsea where winners after hazard we where still winners before salah Liverpool hadn’t won a proper trophy for 12 years and then he joins and wins them the prem and ucl not to mention getting them to another 2 finals

  • @lukewestlake1892
    @lukewestlake1892 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Better than salah 😭🤣😭🤣😭

    • @fathzmomma
      @fathzmomma Před 7 měsíci

      If you want to use stats as your logic, then that would make Lampard the best pl cm oat, and better than Gerrard.
      Don't get me wrong, RN Salahs is still an output machine whilst in hazard is in retirement 'eating burgers'
      but it is because of VERY different career paths
      at 19 hazard won Ligue 1 POTY and took Lille to a double
      at 19 salah could barely get play time and FC Basel
      Chelsea signed both Salah and hazard within a year of each other, Mourinho gave Salah chances and playing time, but Hazard was the starting player playing like a beast, whilst Salah was practically on the bench/reserves and was sent on loan TWICE.
      unlike others, I believe salah really began to hit his peak at Roma, Not at Liverpool. But even at that time hazard was still better, the guy got in the 2016/17 UEFA team of the season, despite Chelsea not being in Europe that season and also that team was dominated by Real Madrid players.
      In all honesty, it can be argued that Salah's career truly began in 2017.
      Salah is an OUTPUT machine but if u think what makes players better than others is just stats, then u surely don't watch football at all.
      Hazard literally controlled entire games, he always had to drop back, collect the ball, and work off his magic.
      salah on the other hand has always been a RF/RW rather than a RM.
      In terms of his dribbling ability, this guy was the next Messi. When players are asked who was their toughest opponent, more seem to say hazard than salah, WHY?
      Because as I said, hazard actually had a significant impact on games, and so did Salah but that entire Liverpool squad was world-class. Same for Chelsea but very different eras.
      18/19, hazard carried Chelsea, literally carried chelsea. Salah at Liverpool was in a squad that played together for almost 4 years, whilst Hazard saw continuous change season by season, players in and out.
      regarding their contributions to their national teams, the hazard is insanely clear, don't get me wrong, Belgium is a far better national team so I wont bring up the 2018 World Cup despite Hazard still winning awards, scoring and assisting, and taking Belgium to the semi-final alongside KDB and lukaku. But based on individual performance and ability, hazard absolutely sweeps Salah, Infact mane did more for his nation than Salah did, in the WC and especially in the AFCON and in the AFCON final, seeing Mane vs salah, where Mane scored the winning pen in the shootout.
      Regarding hazards time at Real Madrid, yes it was very poor, but my explanation is 3 things, first the nature of Laliga (physicality), second relations with the manager and third his mental state. Laliga is far more physical than the prem, not only because of the types of players that play, but also refereeing and even things such as the resentment and pure hatred portrayed by the fans. To give you perspective, I will use Casemiro as an example of the difference in the leagues. In Laliga, he never received a straight red card despite spending 9 years at Real Madrid as a defensive and physical CDM, but in the premier league, he recieved 2 straight red cards in his first season at Man United. It shows a massive difference in the tolerance between the leagues, i personally believe everything about laliga is corrupt as hell. So hazard going from the prem to Laliga, playing as a winger, who was used to going 1 on 1 or taking on multiple defenders caused him to get fouled regularly and was never protected by refs, therefore causing him to become more injury prone, which also led to him gaining weight. When ancelotti joined in 2021/22 he implemented a system that favoured vinicius, which allowed him to flourish, after struggling at Madrid for the previous two seasons, therefore he became a starter. That season Madrid went on to win the UCL and Copa del ray, thanks to the link up between Vinicius and Benzema. As a result, hazard got almost 0 playtime since ancelotti didn't rate him, causing a deterioration in the relationship with the manager as well as a massive decline in his confidence.
      So before you ramble on about him retiring at 32, eating too many burgers, salah having better stats (despite having more appearances but thats not too relevant) understand that hazard has been better than salah for 11 years consistently, in almost every aspect and facet.
      Do you really think salah is going to continue doing what he has been doing since 2018 until 2028, ofc not. Hazard is simply the better PL era winger and also the better winger overall (career at lille and Chelsea).
      The fact that at the age of 28, hazard got the big signing to Madrid (IMO when a player moves to Madrid or barca at their peak, it shows they're great)
      at around a similar age, salah big move was to Liverpool (nowhere close to Madrid in size and influence)
      Real Madrid fans will always slander hazard because he cost them 130 mil euros, but they wont acknowledge the dire and poor state their club was at the time. A team unable to compete in Europe and in my opinion will never reach the grand status they had during the time of the Cristiano era. That same season hazard was signed, they signed others that didn't do so well such as jovic and vinicius (until 2021). The likes of anelka, essien, kaka had 'flopped' at Madrid, but they're still some of the greatest players of our generation.
      same for salah, just because he flopped at Chelsea, alongside players like KDB, who would both go on to be IMO the best PL players of the decade (top 3 being 1. Hazard 2. KDB 3. Salah), doesn't mean we should disrespect their overall greatness. I personally still believe salah was top 3 pl winger oat, and that can still change but salah is most likely going to leave Liverpool soon for Saudi.
      the levels and timing is crazy
      at hazards peak, he was literally being compared with Messi and Ronaldo, with both of the GOATs stating hazard is one of the best oat
      at salahs peak, he's being compared to Hazard
      People don't acknowledge salah as much as they did hazard because hazard was rated by the best mangers and best players. I do believe tho salah is still disrespected because the guy has better stats than most of the greatest Strikers to grace the prem, let alone wingers. Also the fact he's won 3 golden boots and 1 poty says a lot. But stats dont mean everything.
      If you have read up to here, massive respect, I grew up watching football, during the REAL barclays premier league, the PL of the 2010's, and both players are all time greats, both are close friends, and both have a lot in common. But nothing beats the eye test, nothing. I genuinely saw pure magic when i saw hazard play, and im saying this as an arsenal fan.

  • @bimalgrunge4399
    @bimalgrunge4399 Před 7 měsíci

    So nice to see Nina

  • @theicestbozzjohnolujohnson6105
    @theicestbozzjohnolujohnson6105 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Didn't know Nina was this tall,love her football knowledge 💯

  • @saythename086
    @saythename086 Před 7 měsíci +14

    Twitter made me believe Chelsea fans are delusional, it's nice seeing normal chelsea fans.

    • @LoCoAde87
      @LoCoAde87 Před 7 měsíci +26

      This is normal?!?!?

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Před 7 měsíci +17

      U Think this is normal?

    • @LukaTlacinac
      @LukaTlacinac Před 7 měsíci +6

      This aint normal

    • @Dario.991
      @Dario.991 Před 7 měsíci +8

      wtf even as a Chelsea fan I can say these guys were delusional

    • @Kopite96
      @Kopite96 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Bro all these are delusional and think the same. They're all bots with no ball knowledge.

  • @seannewlands2803
    @seannewlands2803 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Chelsea 04/05 team is better than invincibles facts also that team knocked out arsenal in UCL when they were ‘invincible’

  • @some_waffle689
    @some_waffle689 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Do Liverpool next❤

  • @DoomLeigion8086
    @DoomLeigion8086 Před 7 měsíci

    Plz do a do all men city fans think the same next

  • @Rin9pxg
    @Rin9pxg Před 7 měsíci +11

    Arsenal living rent free in them lot heads

  • @ItsZachPlayz_
    @ItsZachPlayz_ Před 7 měsíci +8

    Chelsea fans, the gift that keeps on giving 😂😂😂

  • @abdus808
    @abdus808 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Lewis don’t really say much but when he does he’s funny af😂

  • @bodybagsteve666
    @bodybagsteve666 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Chelsea can have a new stadium and the Women's team can have Stamford Bridge so we can keep it in the family.

  • @enthusiastsajan713
    @enthusiastsajan713 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Calling Havertz the deal of century for 65 mill when they themselves got 2 100 mill midfielders doing nothing and sitting on 12th is so so hilarious

  • @mrbronstein
    @mrbronstein Před 7 měsíci +3

    Absolutely shocked. They'd rather move from Stamford Bridge then rebuild. And to top it all, they'd prefer Tottenham to left the Prem than Arsenal. These young Chelsea fans absolutely suck.

    • @seannewlands2803
      @seannewlands2803 Před 7 měsíci +2

      If they move to a alternate location they can have a bigger stadium so what’s wrong?

    • @mrbronstein
      @mrbronstein Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@seannewlands2803If I need to tell you then I'm guessing you are also one of our new breed of fans. It's called football heritage. That pitch is sacred, and if you don't know why, go do some research.

    • @hydra8612
      @hydra8612 Před 7 měsíci

      Mate it honestly made me cringe. Last time I checked the song went “we hate Tottenham”. I’d rather arsenal win ten leagues than spurs win one. As for Stamford Bridge, couldn’t care less about capacity honestly, it’s Chelsea’s home. These lot would rather move to some soulless, Mickey Mouse stadium somewhere that’s named after an airline or something, no thanks. What’s funny is I’m pretty sure everyone in this video is older than me so Its not even young fans, I think the Tottenham supporting host just went out of his way to get the strangest supporters about, probably trying to make us look bad.

    • @ashwilliams4959
      @ashwilliams4959 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@mrbronstein isn't that pitch owned by someone else though? Seems a fair reason to want to leave, become your own club with your own stadium. The idea of history and heritage seems like a smart way to keep the business, 04 isn't much history....

  • @garybrennan3418
    @garybrennan3418 Před 7 měsíci +1

    7 months potter was the manager . How is that patience 🤣

  • @rashidkhalid3970
    @rashidkhalid3970 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Didn't know elhe wahi supported Chelsea 😊

  • @stopthetalk5205
    @stopthetalk5205 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Sorry what? Reece James is a better attacker than trent? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • @BestInTheWorld13x
    @BestInTheWorld13x Před 7 měsíci +5

    Not surprised Chelsea fans continuesly mention The Arsenal but that's expected when ur the biggest club in the capital

    • @qwerto3
      @qwerto3 Před 7 měsíci

      Pahahhaahhaah assnal are dead since 2004

  • @ross4961
    @ross4961 Před 7 měsíci +1

    great vid!

  • @Mellow_101
    @Mellow_101 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Tchouameni spitting facts

  • @skillz1557
    @skillz1557 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Chelsea fans are so obsessed with arsenal it's hilarious. This video is about Chelsea but these Chelsea fans keep talking about arsenal 🤣

    • @Demi876
      @Demi876 Před 7 měsíci

      That is how you perceive it but everything they said about arsenal is true we hate arsenal fans more that spurs fans by quite a lot actually

    • @coasters4life388
      @coasters4life388 Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@Demi876cause arsenal are a much bigger club

    • @Demi876
      @Demi876 Před 7 měsíci

      @@coasters4life388 ha sure they are when I see them with a ucl in their trophy cabinet then I'll say that but let's be honest that's unrealistic

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@coasters4life388 obviously but chelsea don't think so by their dum reasons

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Před 7 měsíci +2

      Tbf since '03 they started to force and push the rivalry with us to the point where they acc keep talking abt us. Us declining helps their cause too bcuz the biggest club in Ldn is failing while the new kids with money are succeeding

  • @andreecelis2093
    @andreecelis2093 Před 7 měsíci +4

    As a Neutral I agree, Mou's Chelsea is the best team in history of the premier league

  • @callumplays5723
    @callumplays5723 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Think we can all agree salah and hazard are two of the greatest wingers the prem has had. Shame hazard went to real and his career got destroyed.

  • @matchdayzone08
    @matchdayzone08 Před 7 měsíci +1

    His point with hazard is useless Chelsea didn’t play in the City era ofc they were good but not like now, and Liverpool lost like by 1 point twice and had the same as Chelsea so salah nearly has 3 and hazard 2

  • @S2000Danny
    @S2000Danny Před 7 měsíci +6

    Chelsea fans have got to be some of the most delusional fans out there 😂 close tie with Man utd fans

    • @seannewlands2803
      @seannewlands2803 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Arsenal fans are the most deluded

    • @S2000Danny
      @S2000Danny Před 7 měsíci

      @@seannewlands2803 reactionary*

    • @seannewlands2803
      @seannewlands2803 Před 7 měsíci

      @@S2000Dannynah deluded they are the same fans saying Ben white is better than James Trent etc

    • @S2000Danny
      @S2000Danny Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@seannewlands2803 no one’s ever said that and meant it lol, I will say he did was top 2 RB last season so that’s probably will the hype comes from.

    • @calm123
      @calm123 Před 7 měsíci

      Chelsea fans are actually ok compared to insane Arsenal and Liverpool fand

  • @saturdaysequalsyouth
    @saturdaysequalsyouth Před 7 měsíci +7

    Abramovich made this club. Without him this club is mid.

    • @jo268
      @jo268 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Your mom made you, without your mom you're mid

  • @janky14x
    @janky14x Před 7 měsíci +1

    Imagine thinking the standard for GREATEST EVER PL TEAM is to concede the least goals....

  • @valentinzo6
    @valentinzo6 Před 7 měsíci

    She wearing my favourite kit🔥

  • @greenwolfygaming9671
    @greenwolfygaming9671 Před 6 měsíci

    Do Liverpool next pls.🥺

  • @XXnm_13XX
    @XXnm_13XX Před 7 měsíci

    Do a Liverpool version of these ❤

  • @timno2639
    @timno2639 Před 7 měsíci

    As a West Ham fan i would like a West Ham version

  • @thecitizens4573
    @thecitizens4573 Před 7 měsíci

    Was waiting for the Salah / Kdb question wether they regret it in someways or not… missed oppurtunity