BEST TRACTION CONTROL DEVICE FOR THE AUDI RS3 - SYVECS AWD CONTROLLER!!!
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Hank Iroz and Iroz Motorsport have long been the ones to push this platform faster and faster and faster over the past couple of years. Through Hank's journey with his own RS3 and through his months and months of R&D he and Syvecs present this phenomenal AWD controller. This device replaces your OEM Haldex controller and pushes the level of traction you are able to obtain to a whole new level.
In this video I show you a very quick install as well as a bunch of testing to show you all just how effective this device is. It provides tremendous gains in both 0-60mph times as well as 60ft times.
To purchase your Syvecs haldex AWD controller reach out to sales@irozmotorsport.com
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Thanks for watching!!!
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"We want it to look as OEM as we possibly can" I don't think you're hiding anything from the dealership at this point. Love the car and love the videos though!
It has nothing to do with hiding things from a dealer. We simply don't want to have some ugly looking hack job of an install, lol.
Yeah, I agree with ya. Just thought it was kinda funny.
@@gallardian the funny part was supposed to be me absolutely wrecking my rear tire when I turned off the device completely, hahaha
Vancity Audi Oh definitely got a kick out of that too. Any thoughts on going with the SYVECS ECU? Still trying to talk my wife into letting me trade my TTS in for an RS.
@@gallardian I would LOVE to go with a Syvecs ECU but it is expensive AF and I don't have the budget for it right now.
That rear wheel burnout was magnificent LOL!!🤣🤣🤣
LMAO, I ROASTED that poor rear tire.
Bought an RS3 3 weeks ago... and my bank account hates you haha!!!
My bank account and credit cards hate me too!!!! Lol
Already have Uni Inlet elbow, uni midpipes, and forge intercooler ordered... who needs a warrently! keep the videos coming!!!
@@Xesssa will do!
Okay so no need for a Syvecs ECU for this? Just buy this kit from Iroz and that’s it? Man I need this! Also, I love your content. You show us what we need to see. And with a happy smile. Keep these videos coming!!
Thanks! No sir! All you need is this Syvecs AWD controller. It replaces your haldex controller as shown in the video. I am still using the OEM ECU.
No you don’t
@@stevenroseren9300 Please xplain?
Billy Joe it still utilized the factory ECU I just ordered mine through EURO-CODE which works with IROZ. These are 2 entirely different systems one is a ECU and one is a system that detects how torque is divided , with the OEM unit you can’t adjust the torque spilt , this controller bypasses that issue by replacing the factory unit with the Syvecs controller. This has nothing to do with the ECU the factory ECU is responsible for numerous things. To answer your question you don’t need a Syvecs ECU to run a Syvecs Halidex controller. You also don’t need a tune to install this just like Adam said in his video it’s plug and play that’s it. Not everybody is going to able to spend 5 or 6 grand on a ECU like Syvecs not that it would be nice lol hope that answers your question , any other questions feel free to ask I have the same platform except it’s a 2019 TTRS stage 2 Unitronics E85
Your are amazing. Love the content. I am so glad you and others inspired me to buy my RS3
Thanks for watching!
15:51 that bird said "GO!"
😂
Wooow thats an amazing device! Enjoy!
Maxed out on the track is going to be crazy.i call 0-60 2.4s
I am already doing repeated 2.2 second 0-60mph runs on track before this device haha
@@VancityAudi wooow drop below the 2 then, why not 🤷♂️
@@aladdinkara8538 I'm hoping for a 2.0 0-60mph
Good stuff man got mine in the mail today. Waiting on Iroz pumps, bps sensors I have and upgraded tune for it. Great video as always 🍻
Thanks for watching!
@@VancityAudi hey Adam I’m having issues with mine TTE700 car stock motor but upgraded sensors and fuel pump e85 on stock setting mine just spins the tires while driving not from a stop if I mash it spins about 80-90 mph. Then if I turn it up more that stops. Issue is launch new PS4 tires 35 psi in them spins all over can’t get out of the hole and is causing my car not to want to shift. I turned up controller more got out of hole it felt better less spin but was slower I’m at a loss. Race coming up next weekend might throw my slicks on and test if it doesn’t rain. Thoughts?
Excellent content with professional tech tips.👍👏💪🇨🇦
Thank you very much
Awesome device. I want one now. Didn’t even know it existed.
They were JUST released by Iroz Motorsport. Inquire about purchasing one at sales@irozmotorsport.com
Really nice content! Thank you for sharing it’s very appreciated! I cannot find this part on the iroz website 🤔
Thanks! It isn't on their website yet. If you would like to order one you'll have to email or call them. Sales@irozmotorsport.com
Awesome video man. Nice job with the install and review!
Thanks!!!
I saw this being previewed on the fb, really happy to see how quickly you could get a review out, legit wanted to see the damage it was gonna do!
It would have been sooner if I didn't screw up the first time I filmed lol. I was happy to get out there and film again to not mislead people
Nice video Adam. I wonder how this work on track not only on drag strips. Do you know if the driving dynamics have been changed as well? 😊 👍
I honestly don't. Seeing as my car is a purpose built drag car I'm not sure how it will affect the driving dynamics besides going in a straight line.
nice demo ;) ...be aware to have dialed in the controller more than stock when you are in turns/corners because you put much more stress to bewelbox and haldex clutch
Could you elaborate please?
Awesome!! Fun video from start to finish👍🏽
Thanks for watching!
Great video Adam saved me from buying a burnout switch!I just ordered 034 rear subframe inserts to try to keep my rear end from moving around so much on launch.Have you tried any of these mounts?Thanks.
No, I don't use any 034 parts other than my springs which I will be replacing eventually as well.
Amazing, love your videos 👍love the results of that car keep going that way 👍 try talks whit Jamie OG, I think he love to try that beast 😁😉
Thank you. No idea who Jamie OG is, but cheers!
@@VancityAudi he his a CZcamsr to, try cars whit the owners, I can try share some link I guess
@@VancityAudi czcams.com/video/JTTMpkqNXCo/video.html chek out
@@powermax2000 He lives across the world from me lol
Great video! Do you think you can now power slide the car with this installed ? Not a true drift but do you think you could do it with it turned all the way up ?
Absolutely zero idea, sorry. I only use my RS3 for drag racing.
What does this cost? Love the ease of install and the results!
Inquire at sales@irozmotorsport.com for more details
1,050 USD I believe
U are a true star !
Thanks!
This is dope, how do you think this would do in roll racing as opposed to launching? advantages or disadvantages?
Not too sure honestly. I imagine when you roll race you already have enough momentum that you aren't breaking traction unless you have huge power. If you do make huge power then I guess this would help. I don't roll race so I wouldn't know. Sorry dude
Lol I want this in my Audi S3. Does this fit and if so where can I buy it? Thats awesome bro haha
I don't know if it's plug and play for an S3, but here's the link: irozmotorsport.com/product/ims-syvecs-mqb-haldex-controller/
You could reach out to them and ask.
@@VancityAudi thanks dude!
Researching RS3, TTRS, Iroz for a track car to do road race events….circuit track. Curious if you have any experience doing this style of driving with the platform? Or, if you know of any suspension go-to experts to get the ‘17-‘19 platform to work on track.
529 Innovations is your absolute go to for all your custom suspension needs. I don't have any experience circuit driving an RS3 though. I don't know how to turn.
@@VancityAudi Ha! Thanks for quick response. Will let them know you referred me. Great channel. Answered a lot of my questions. Great work! Subscribed!
@@shiftsgiggles962no problemo. Good luck!
Time for a rear LSD.
100%
Too bad the only option is some dude in europe and it's like $5k and over a month turn around. We need a USA group buy!
Doctorrrr 💪🏽
Thanks for sharing great contents. I would recommend you to review the Haldex controller from Van Der Engineering. That would be interesting, as you can see the numbers live on your phone.
Why would I spend money on another haldex controller when the one I'm using is already working amazingly well for me?
@@VancityAudi
Because it is plug and play, Bluetooth control with phone, no knob feeling, shows all torque splits live for both stock and custom. They probably would supply you with one for review based on your successful CZcams popularity.
@@khvidtube1617 if they want to send me one for free to review it, then we'll talk. Otherwise I already own the absolute best haldex controller on the market.
@@VancityAudi
Ok, hope Jeroen of Van Der Veer Engineering see this and he may supply you with one for review.
@@khvidtube1617 I just looked up the device you are talking about. Hank Iroz already tested that device and it doesn't work like it says it does.
So in summary, dial to the right is more power to the rear, to the left makes it 100% FWD?
I honestly am not sure what it does when it is all the way to the left besides roasting my rear tire. If it was 100% FWD all the way to the left then I would have simply done a FWD burnout if that was the case. Instead I did a single rear tire burnout.
Vancity Audi weird. Would be good to ask Iroz and do a follow up video for everyone else who got this kit and for people that are interested in getting one
Also really wondering how this will affect it's handling and corning considering
That I won't be able to help with sadly seeing as my RS3 is specifically built and used for drag racing.
Do you remember the size of the tires and brand?
Yes, they were 17" Bridgestone RE71-R's
Great video,did you try this on corners?it make more oversteer?
I did not. I'm exclusively using this device for drag racing. Nothing more.
Adam do you know if this is beneficial for cars without an upgraded LSD like your car? Nice video!
Yes, absolutely. Without an upgraded LSD will still net you amazing results.
Vancity Audi right on!! Thanks bud. Definitely going to add this to the build
I'm not so sure.. in VCDS you can change the haldex engagement to a couple levels. Since Haldex can never be more than simply fully locked up, if you set the traction to max, should be the same ya?
No. The changes in VCDS are nowhere near what this device enables you to do.
Hey Adam another great video. I'm struggling for traction big time, I'm stage 3 tte700 95oct on PS4S and I'm literally spinning big time in first and second. I'm thinking just going with a better semi slick street tyre or would you think this haldex controller is even better option
First things first, get yourself a proper set of tires. PS4S are great all around tires but they aren't meant for drag racing or achieving solid launch times. If you want to by-pass the proper tires for launching a car effectively, the Syvecs haldex controller does one hell of a good job sending power to the rears to get a much more effective launch.
@@VancityAudi thanks so I will start with a better tyre that can do better both on the street and drag, was thinking of these two options: Tproxes R888R and Michelin Cup 2. Any thoughts?
@@gtrsfk9001 neither of those tires are meant for drag racing. They are both designed for circuit racing. If you want to simply improve your launches you'll be looking for a drag radial. I know you don't want to hear it, but there is no tire that does it all. You're either going to focus on a tire that will help your launching or help your cornering and grip. I used an RE71R when I wanted best of both worlds but that still isn't a drag tire.
@@VancityAudi some good points Adam. I guess I'm really looking for a street tyre that will just give me better traction from a dig than the PS4S but can also daily with (no rain here). I reckon I'll need to bite the bullet and go with some 18s and drag radials for when I hit the drag.
@@gtrsfk9001 if you opt for 18's as your daily tire and strap on some RE71R's that would do well for you. The more sidewall, the more flex, the better for launching and they'd still do well for you on the street. You just won't get a ton of mileage on them
Are you going to do anything to your rear differential? Since all that power is going to an open rear differential
When I can afford it I'll be tossing in an LSD into the rear.
Vancity Audi with both front and rear LSD,s it’s going to be amazing. Proper Quattro
Nice demo. Will the device be availed for the A3? I only run 0-60 in 4 flat on pump gas. Getting into a 3.9 is a personal goal.
Reach out to sales@irozmotorsport.com to inquire. I imagine that eventually they may have this available.
What do you have done to ur A3 that makes u do 4 flat
Michael Lin my list of bolt On parts: Brembo drilled rotors, EBC yellowstuff pads, ECS stainless steel brake lines, racing brake fluid. Stopping power is improved over stock setup. Turbo inlet elbow, full set ECS charge pipe kit, sealed cold air intake, cold air is from the front of car and not motor. GFB high performance diverter valve, not using the atmospheric blow off. Turbo muffler delete, I run 93 octane and boostane fuel additive to hit the magic # 100 octane. Unitronic stage 2, bilstein coilovers sitting about 3 inches off the ground at lowest spot under the car. Neuspeed rear anti roll bar with Neuspeed sway bar end links. CTS 3.5 inch down pipe and then a full Borla exhaust twin mufflers. 034 dogbone and rear subframe mounts. I run Enkei RPF1 rims that shaved a bit over 9 lbs. per wheel over stock rim. I run the goodyear eagle sport that also shaved tire weight over the stock tire 2 lbs per tire. Van has taught us that shaving excess weight will equate to tenths quicker.
Mine came with the updated spring, but I did not notice that if you replaced tot he upgraded spring? And if it is needed or not?
We installed that at 2:06 of the video. It is mandatory.
Does this happen to work for the 7 and 7.5 golf R haldex? Hear Wavetrack or some other company has created a LSD for the haldex wondering if that is what you mentioned about having an upgraded LSD or is the LSD upgrad for the DQ500 DSG in your RS3’s transmission instead? Appreciated
Here ya go! czcams.com/video/ybuoTYBNbxs/video.html
I have been trying to find information in regards to the RS3 Haldex settings via driver select, can this car set to 50/50 all time during snowy conditions or does the car not allow for something like this? Everyone knows driving on snow and ice 50/50 is the best.... “cough cough” SUBARU AWD
These haldex AWD systems don't work like that sadly. It isn't a true 50/50 split of power all the time. It drives around mainly in FWD only unless you require some additional traction in the rear and then the rears get more power.
So you still use gen 1? I been doing research and seems the the better one is the gen 1 and I have a gen 1 I can purchase
I am still using the original unit that I show in this video.
@@VancityAudi nice
Any chance on a rear burnout before the front burnout, then launch? Just wondering if having all 4 hot would make a difference?
A haldex unit can not put more than 50% of the power to the rears. As much as the unit can be turned up to 100, you still aren't putting more than 50% of the total torque to the rear tires. Maybe down the road they will figure it out, but for now I don't believe that is possible.
@@VancityAudi I figured as much. Was just hoping that they had figured out a way around it. Thanks.
Hi Adam, you never mentioned about the valve upgrade, is that necessary in order to use this unit?
The upgraded valve comes with the unit when you order it.
@@VancityAudi great in this case, hopefully there’s not a lot of labour involved in changing it, very good videos I really like your content, keep the good work much appreciated
Does it mean you can drift the car now? My only reservation with the car is the inability to drift. It sounds like you can drift the car now with this turn to 50% or more.
No, you still can't drift the car. At this present time the maximum amount of power you get to the rears is 50% of the total power output due to the limitations of the haldex unit. I failed at explaining that. I have been told though that Syvecs is working on a possible drift mode in the future for these cars. My guess would be they are working on lowering the front wheels power output while still retaining that 50% to the rear wheels.
It probably works for the Golf R too, right?
As mentioned in other comments, yes, we have been told that it will
how does it handle bends with the different dynamics? Does it oversteer?
I only use the car for drag racing so I never turn 😄
Would it work with the FRONT OPEN differential or it only works with the LSD?
Works with 100% stock vehicles as well.
Does the secret part from Iroz that you don't show the install of have anything to do with launching? Wondering if it contributes to the performance increase in launching.
100% it increases the performance.
Vancity Audi I know the Haldex controller does, I’m wondering about the other part you don’t show.
@@dereckwaller5111 and again I say. 100% it does. Lol
Vancity Audi okay, so without knowing what that piece is I couldn’t expect these kinds of gains with just the Syvecs controller? I’m trying to get my 60’ down from a best of 1.73.
@@dereckwaller5111 poor explanation on my part I guess. The part I don't show comes with the Syvecs AWD controller when you purchase it from Iroz Motorsport. And 100% you will improve your 60ft from a 1.73 with this device.
At the track did you use maxed rear power or a bit less to get the best results?
Max at the track
does the e-brake still work like normal or is it in fwd everytime your e-brake is on? also did your tune remove the dsg farts?
Every time you turn on your e-brake it turns on FWD only. My car hasn't really ever had DSG farts.
Do you still burnout the front wheels with it being mostly rwd bias now ?
I still use this exact same process when I race: czcams.com/video/-yITpLYLrHY/video.html
Stock is up to 50% to the rear? Wonder if it is compatible with golf r.
Stock claims that, but it really isn't. The controller turned to full is a proper 50/50 split in power
Iroz has said it does work with the Golf R and Audi S3 as well.
Hello
do you know this new Haldex Controller Gen5 0CQ (MQB) which allows much more adjustment at all speeds
You make great videos keep up the good work it's very interesting
Yes, I am aware of that controller. It doesn't do what the Syvecs controller does. This is an inferior version that people thought worked before Syvecs released theirs. Now there is no point in spending your money on this when the Syvecs unit exists.
do u need wavetrac and syvecs or could u just run syvecs?
You can run the Syvecs device by itself, but for optimum traction you'd want a front & rear wavetrac as well
too bad it didn't have a markers or even for where you are or percentage or something.
As I state in the video you can feel the tension on the device build at the stock position and at around the 80-90% position
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please recomend a good drag wheel for rs3. please tell me the name of the wheel you are using
Enkei RPF1
@@VancityAudi 17inch 7.5j inset48mm???? what is your wheelsize ??
@@user-yi3gl6xs3i vancityaudi.com/faqs
@@VancityAudi thank you . pcd112 or pcd114.3???
@@user-yi3gl6xs3i They don't make that size in a 5x112
worse than stock ? better than stock ? those are not technical terms..lol how about torque split number? does it do more than the dreaded 50/50 ?
At the time that I made this video (which was years ago now), very little was known about these controllers. There were zero technical terms available to the public.
As for torque split numbers, I have no idea. If I had to guess, it is capable of sending roughly 70-80% of the available torque to the rear wheels when it is at the max level.
@@VancityAudi so you still dont know.? .some controllers at 'zero' can be 100% Fwd but all of them are at the most 50% to the rears. because of the design of Haldex....thats what i found out in a week so far. syvecs keeps that quiet because thats not good news if you like sideways driving of any kind .
@shangee tibodo no, I still don't know or I would have told you in my last comment. I have not updated the software and have not tinkered with it at all. I've never cared to learn more because it works extremely well for me on track at full power. Seeing as I only drag race the car now, nothing else has really mattered to me.
are you getting new tte855?
Possibly!
Are you going to paint the cage?
Heck yes I am!!!
No magic thinking controller will transform a haldex into a torsen or crown gear AWD.
Don't think anyone said it would, lol.
Also can you do solely rwd
No, the device can only increase the duty cycle of the haldex device which has to have the front wheels being driven as well as the rears. You can't disengage the front wheels from having power sent to them.
@@VancityAudi can you make it rear wheel bias instead of front wheel?
@@halomaster1244 no, it will always be FWD biased. This just simply allows you to send much more torque to the rears than the OEM system does.
@@VancityAudi I see. I want to get this car. But not being able to do donuts or kick out the rear end on dry may be a huge setback for me
@@halomaster1244 Don't bother if that is what you want out of a car. Get yourself an American muscle car and be done with it.
Ummm... Can you trick-out my 2018 RS3? 😂. But seriously, have you documented the progression from OEM to Stage 2?
Kind of, but not really. I didn't really start putting out lots of content until I was already stage 2. My website has all the parts listed that I use to make power though. www.vancityaudi.com/faqs
@@VancityAudi Thanks for the guidance!
@@gregoryjamesfarmer No problemo
Is full tilt to the rear, is it 100% power to rear?
No. Haldex units will still always have power going to the front as well. It simply diverts more of the available torque to the rear tires but not all of it.
@@VancityAudi so just more or less locks the center diff to be 100/100 or 50/50 same power front to back
@@patpaul218 no, there is no locking. It simply puts more torque to the rears off launch, but then as you accelerate it's still programmed as a stock haldex where it slowly rolls back into FWD. It is tunable though to your own preferred style once you get the software.
@@VancityAudi thank you for taking the time to respond. On a side note what is the width of tire you use? Any idea what the max width you can run on the rae or ttrs
@@patpaul218 no idea the max width sorry. I've never been a guy to run unnecessarily wide tires. Here are my drag racing tires: czcams.com/video/TD4B3iwHSEQ/video.html
Found it
So now, turn it all the way down and we can do a rolling burnout. cool
If you've got the power and no rear diff, I'm sure you'll do a one tire fire like I did.
@@VancityAudi worth it lol
Looks like at 60% send more to the rear than at 100%
Laughing at your stock engine lmaoo 🤣
No idea what that means
Why do you talk so much when this could be a 2-3 min video ?!
Why did you watch the video if it bothers you so much? Adam provides great information for people that are actually looking to learn.
Um........ so you can do rear wheel power only????? Why not do a Rear wheel burnout. Then race in RWD bias... or even...... Do a front wheel PEEL then roll up into the water and do a Rear Wheel REAL burn out .
Then roll up to the tree, and select 33/77 RWD bias and get the best times ever...
Hope u like all the Easter eggs and jokes
But I'm serious.
Also
PATENT PENDING
Also... since u luv Drag racing... why not weld ur back diff...
LOL
or put in a nice LSD
also
Do
LSD
The haldex unit in these cars will always be FWD biased. You can not put more than 50% of the power to the rears. So 100% of the power to the rears to do a RWD burnout is impossible.
I'm saving up for a rear LSD.
@@VancityAudi ohhh I see. So 100% rwd bias is still 5050
nice content adam😍 you are my inspiration. try to collaborate & make content with @OFFICIALLY GASSED - OG. you should keep up more subscribe 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you very much. Sadly Officially Gassed is located on the other side of the ocean from me, lol
Why is he always yelling..
Because I'm ridiculously passionate about what I do. In my current videos I have calmed it down a bunch to not annoy people.